August 11, 2020 • 19 mins
The Mosaic of China podcast has been designed to have visual elements that can be enjoyed alongside its audio episodes. Today’s show is the biggest test of that theory, since it’s a compilation from Season 1 of the guests’ answers to the question: “What’s your favourite WeChat sticker?”. In the same week that Donald Trump has threatened to ban WeChat from the United States, we take a look at one of the most popular features of the app that’s ubiquitous in China: the sticker function. And as you’re listening to the episode, ask yourself what your favourite WeChat sticker would be, and what that choice would say about you. Chapters 00:00 - Trailer & Intro 01:52 - Main 19:10 - Outro Instagram: www.instagram.com/oscology Facebook: www.facebook.com/mosaicofchina WeChat: www.mosaicofchina.com/wechat
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(00:02):
[Trailer]Nick YU: Yeah,
that is just a boy. He’s so happy.When he walks, he’s so happy.
You know, I think that is me. I'm a guy, fromthe bottom of my heart, who wants to be happy.
[Intro]OF: Welcome to Mosaic of China,
a podcast about people who are making theirmark in China. I'm your host Oscar Fuchs.
(00:24):
Today's compilation is going to work eitheramazingly or terribly. This week we're looking at
how the guests from Season 01 of the show answeredthe question “What is your favourite WeChat
sticker?” At this point, I would have explainedto those outside of China about what WeChat is.
But thanks to Donald Trump's recent executiveorder threatening to ban it in the U.S,
(00:45):
I think everyone out there knows whatwe're talking about. Stickers are little
animations, the likes of which you see on allinternational social media platforms these days.
But they are particularly wellsuited and well integrated to WeChat.
There's simply no debate about it: using WeChat stickers is the best. (00:58):
undefined
Here's why today's show might go wrong. Firstly,you might not care one bit about WeChat stickers.
Fair enough. Secondly, you might careabout them, but that doesn't mean that
you want to hear 30 people describe them toyou in an audio format. Also fair enough.
(01:19):
Thirdly, you might be in one of the WeChatlisteners groups, you might love WeChat stickers,
but that doesn't mean that youwant to be bombarded by 30 of them,
which is exactly what is going to happenalongside the release of this compilation.
More than fair. Or you might be looking at theversions of these stickers that I've posted
on Instagram at oscology* and on Facebook atmosaicofchina, and correctly concluded that they
(01:40):
are irrelevant to you if you don't have WeChat.So with all that in mind, here is today's special
compilation episode. I don't know if it's going towork but please send me your feedback either way.
[Main][Voiceover]
OF (01:54):
Lexie Comstock, the cookie supplier from Episode 20.
[Clip]LC: Some people
are very good at WeChat sticker language. You areone of them - yeah, you're pointing to yourself,
I was going to give that to you anyway, but sure.OF: Give me credit for my WeChat game. Come on.
LC (02:06):
Mine is very bad, and very simple. Because it just takes so much time to be like… I don't know.
So I like the ones that have been pre-loadedon my WeChat. And those are the little, like,
bunnies? What are they? The little bunnies? And Ifind that the like, what would you even call that
hand motion? Like a hula, almost.OF: Yeah.
It just applies in many situations. So I like the.. it’s just, kind of, my fallback. I get
(02:28):
genuine joy from using it. And it's super cute.OF: Listen, I'll explain how you have many
different stickers and make it work. Youlist them in order of what emotion you
want to convey.LC: Really?
OF (02:39):
Yeah, so… LC
Oh, I'll teach you. LC
[Voiceover]OF:
Angie Wu, the jewellery craftsman from Episode 18.[Clip]
AW (02:52):
OK, so I actually change every month, or every two months, depending what I add, new ones. But
recently it has been this reindeer that’s rolling,like, on his back, on waves. And he’s just rolling
on this, looking super happy and comfortable.OF: That's cool because you actually
(03:13):
do a lot of water sports, right?AW: Yeah, I actually do. I do windsurfing
and kitesurfing. And this little reindeerjust reminds me of my happy time by the beach.
[Voiceover]OF:
Gigi Chang, the translator from Episode 24.[Clip]
GC (03:30):
Well, I like the WeChat pups, the green one and the white one.
OF (03:33):
Oh I love those, I always use those. GC
Do you have a particular sticker that you like the most?
GC (03:40):
I think I like most of them. I think there’s one where one of them just walks
off and takes a dump.OF: Oh,
really?GC: Yeah. I think there
was one that was just sort of like ‘poo’.OF: OK, well if you can find that,
then send it. I’ll put that online too.GC: Yeah. I don't think I made it up,
I think it’s real.[Voiceover]
OF (04:01):
Sanford Browne, the biochemist from Episode 29.
[Clip]SB: So for WeChat stickers, for me - probably
like many people - you’re always “Look, what's themost current one? I got to have that one, that's
really good”. But I find, particularly in the morecartoonish ones, they're great but they're only
great for a few weeks. And then there's one thatI really like. It's a dog, a pug, just walking
(04:24):
and then it looks straight in the camera, and it'smore of that surprise, like you're really - “Huh?
What's happening?” - which is more of your dailylife in Shanghai, so that's why it relates.
[Voiceover]OF:
Lori Li, the private club GM from Episode 10.[Clip]
LL (04:40):
Yeah, there is a panda. He destroyed everything in the office.
[Voiceover]OF:
Astrid Poghosyan, the violinist from Episode 04.[Clip]
AP (04:53):
I have an addiction with the stickers. I have, like, 200-something, so I have to choose.
OK this is my favourite.OF: Ahh.
One of the frequent ones. I'm using. It's very hard for me to describe what it is,
like. But um, once you say something that somebodydidn't expect, or you got them, you just send this
in sort of like… “I told you!”OF: “I told you”, pointing at
(05:16):
you… And this part's coming out, it’sAP: It’s a lot of… Once you live here,
I think it's a lot of things that's like “I toldyou so”, right? And it just becomes like that.
OF (05:24):
Right. So actually yeah, it's a cute way of saying “I told you so,
I’m cleverer and better than you.”AP: Yes. Exactly. Thanks.
[Voiceover]OF:
Simon Manetti, the businessleader from Episode 17.
[Clip]SM: How does one describe a
WeChat sticker? So it's not creepy, but anythingwith kids in it. They're just so real. Right?
(05:45):
So kids doing a dance, kids doing fist pumps. I'mall for it. I go authenticity, unbridled passion.
[Voiceover]OF:
Nick Yu, the playwright from Episode 13.[Clip]
NY (05:59):
Yeah, that is just a boy. He’s so happy. When he walks, he’s so happy. You know, I think that
is me. I also want to be like that. When I wasyoung in the village, I would be just like that.
All the world is mine. I'm a guy, from thebottom of my heart, who wants to be happy.
(06:20):
[Voiceover]OF:
Roz Coleman, the theatre producer from Episode 22.[Clip]
RC (06:27):
Let me just show you… here you are. ‘Orange Dancing Boy’, or ‘Orange Boy’. I mean,
he's another door opening in a way because thenafter that, you have to collect every single
one that this kid has been a part of. So there’s‘Orange Boy’, there’s also ‘Green Boy’, there's
also ‘Purple Boy’, they're all the same boy. Hehas different outfits on. He's always dancing,
dancing with a joy that is unparalleled by anybodyelse's dancing. It's completely unselfconscious.
(06:51):
I like to think that he doesn't know that he'sa WeChat sticker, and that there's not going to
be that problematic thing of putting your kids onthe internet, and then they grow up to resent you.
[Voiceover]OF:
Maple Zuo, the comedian from Episode 02.[Clip]
MZ (07:07):
櫻桃小丸子 [Yīngtáo Xiǎo Wánzi], like a Japanese cartoon. She's so happy and innocent,
and she has a happy family as well. And I thinkI just I want to be her. But I can't be her. But
I like her. She’s just so happy and doesn’tthink about anything. I had such a dark side
in my childhood, but hers doesn’t. So I hopethat my daughter maybe can grow up like that.
(07:31):
[Voiceover]OF:
Greg Nance, the ultramarathonathlete from Episode 23.
[Clip]GN: Yes, my two favourite WeChat stickers. One
is Derek Zoolander, and he's dancing with hisfriends in his open air Jeep. And that's from
one of my favourite movies, Zoolander. And thesecond is the rapper Drake. He's got a song
(07:53):
called Hotline Bling, where he does this kindof fun dance. And there's a sticker where he's
actually playing Fruit Ninja, which is fantastic.OF: Thank you, that's going on social media
afterwards.GN: Boom.
[Voiceover]OF:
Sabrina Chen, the dance programmecurator from Episode 26.
[Clip]SC: くまモン [Kumamon] rolling on the floor.
OF (08:15):
OK, let's see this. You've just sent it to me, right?
SC (08:18):
Yes. OF
Yeah. OF
seen it through a couple of loops now, and I'mlaughing. OK. I'm a fan. I'm gonna use that one.
[Voiceover]OF:
Emily Madge, the aquariumconservationist from Episode 14.
(08:38):
[Clip]EM: Um, so it's a woman with attitude, strutting
down the street. And she grabs a businessmanand starts dry-humping him, and his face.
OF (08:53):
Oh my word! EM
how to describe it. How would you describe it?OF: That's how it looks. I'm actually… I'm a
little bit embarrassed, am I going red?EM: That’s why it's my
favourite. You have to post it.OF: OK, I'm posting it. I definitely… I'm
doing it under duress. This is objectifying.I am completely scandalised by this one.
EM (09:12):
OK, I’m sorry to put you in that position. OF
[Voiceover]OF:
Jorge Luzio, the marketerfor Sprite from Episode 05.
[Clip]JL: It's about
a famous star of soap operas in Mexico. Actually,I was so surprised to receive that here in China,
you know, on the other side of the world. Andit’s this beautiful girl, but it’s so eighties,
(09:38):
and so old-fashioned, and yet so insightful and socurrent right now. And so that's my favourite one.
OF (09:46):
And you know what? It has a great caption. But I’m not going to ruin it, I’m going to let people
look at it on social media.JL: Yeah, I love it.
[Voiceover]OF:
Abe Deyo, the tour manager from Episode 27.[Clip]
AD (09:58):
This one, because it annoys my fiancée, because I do a similar face.
OF (10:04):
OK, so can you explain what this one is? AD
doing an arrogant… Or no…OF: Oh, I would say arrogant.
AD (10:14):
Yeah. An arrogant little kissy face, like smooch. Air smooch.
OF (10:18):
Yes. And there’s a high level of smugness. AD
Yeah, that would annoy a fiancée, that would. AD
And you do this face? I can't imagine you doing this face.
AD (10:27):
I do that face. OF
It definitely gets me into trouble. Every time I put that sticker up, It's like “Oooh.”
Eye-rolling.[Voiceover]
OF (10:37):
Eric Olander, the journalist from Episode 03. [Clip]
EO (10:40):
I have a lot. I do. This was actually one of the harder questions. But I do like
the slow clap. So I've got a couple of slow clapstickers, just to make fun of my friends who are
either expressing pride or expressing something,and you kind of give them a slow clap. So yeah,
so I'll say the slow clap.[Voiceover]
OF (11:01):
Lissanthea Taylor, the pain expert from Episode 28.
[Clip]LT: My favourite WeChat sticker is
Tina Fey - Liz Lemon - high-fiving herself.OF: Excellent. I know the one.
I must use that one quite a lot as well.LT: It fits our similarly slightly
snarky and sarcastic personalities.OF: Yeah, that's right. Because we
(11:23):
think we're always right. And there's noone else who actually believes us. So we
might as well just high-five ourselves.LT: What do you know, we’re not right?
I mean, yeah, sorry. LT
[Voiceover]OF:
Octo Cheung, the fashion designer from Episode 30.[Clip]
OC (11:37):
Oh. OF
It’s an illustrated human, and the hands are moving like a fan, and firing
many hearts from them.OF: That’s very cute.
[Voiceover]OF:
Sebastien Denes, the inclusionadvocate from Episode 11.
(11:58):
[Clip]SD: An old lady who is just laughing out
loud. I think sometimes we are tooserious. And it's just about laughing.
[Voiceover]OF: Stephane de Montgros,
the events company CEO from Episode 19.[Clip]
SDM (12:15):
Let me send it to you. So a friend of mine actually recorded a short video of a
buddy of mine and myself outside of a restaurantin Taipei. And I'm just doing some silly dancing
in front of the restaurant. So I just think it'sfunny because there's myself in there and I have
no idea how you get that kind of stuff done.OF: And in what situation would you
send this sticker?SDM: When I'm happy,
which happens every half an hour.OF: Ah beautiful. And sickening at the same time.
(12:40):
[Voiceover]OF: Noah Sheldon,
the documentary filmmaker from Episode 09.[Clip]
NS (12:46):
Mmm. There's one that I've been very fond of lately, which is a
girl on a bicycle chasing a motorcycle.OF: And in what context do you use that,
like when you're running late? Or…NS: More like doing something impossible. Like ‘We
can do it’. I'm also very fond of the boy withthe extremely large comb, slowly combing his hair.
(13:10):
[Voiceover]OF: Nini Sum, the artist from Episode 16.
[Clip]OF: OK, can you describe this?
I don't know, this is… In Chinese it’s called 草泥马 [cǎonímǎ]. It’s like this kind
of… I don't know what kind of animalthis is, like a sheep or something.
OF (13:30):
I think it's a llama. Is it a llama? NS
that’s the name of it. And I just like his face.It’s like just chewing and like “Eh?” He just
turns into like “Whaaaat?” It's really silly.And people say it’s like me. So I use this a lot.
[Voiceover]OF:
(13:53):
Philippe Gas, the Disneyresort CEO from Episode 01.
[Clip]PG: I have a couple, but the one I use a lot is
a little baby chicken that looks very grumpy andhas a cigarette in his mouth. And that’s the way
I look and I sound, I think, on Mondays.So typically I send that to anybody who's
talking to me on Mondays, that's the face I makebecause it represents my mood. Really my mood.
(14:16):
[Voiceover]OF: Gina Li, the invention
company CEO from Episode 06.[Clip]
GL (14:22):
It's Super Mario shaking his head, as a super rock star. If I want to cheer people up, and then
bring back some energy, I just do that. Like,every time I look at it, I just wanna do the same.
(14:47):
[Voiceover]OF: Srinivas Yanamandra,
(15:37):
the compliance leader from Episode 15.[Clip]
SY (15:39):
The WeChat sticker is a cute little girl. And she exudes a kind of weird expression, like
“Oops", kind of a thing. And that is the mostneeded in the messaging platforms, especially
when you do those silly mistakes, actually.OF: This is actually one of my favourites too.
Is it? OF
way of contorting her face.SY: Yes, yes.
(16:01):
[Voiceover]OF:
Yael Farjun, the historicalresearcher from Episode 12.
[Clip]YF:
So I sent you the sticker…OF: Oh, yes.
YF (16:13):
…Of Gal Gadot, when she is excited about something. I find myself using that a lot in
China, because again, there are so many newthings happening all the time, you know. And
so I'm excited a lot about daily life in China.And, well it's Gal Gadot, so of course, you know.
[Voiceover]OF:
(16:34):
Michael Zee, the Instagraminfluencer from Episode 07.
[Clip]MZ: My favourite WeChat
sticker is this little girl that’s saying ‘Bye.’It is the perfect way to end the conversation.
OF (16:47):
I'm looking at it now. Yes, you know who this is, right?
MZ (16:51):
I know she's famous for something, but I don’t know what.
OF (16:54):
This is Honey Boo Boo. MZ
[Voiceover]OF: Vy
Vu, the fitness community leader from Episode 08.[Clip]
VV (17:06):
Gosh, people are gonna hate me when I say this, but I actually don't use WeChat stickers.
OF (17:11):
Get out. VV
I'll talk about my most used emoji.OF: OK.
VV (17:20):
It's actually the cleaver, the knife. And don't think that I'm a serial killer,
but I actually use it in a tongue-in-cheekkind of way. So I use the phrase “or else”,
and then I'll throw in three cleavers. Sothis will just be in a regular social context,
like “I'll see you tomorrow… or else”.OF: OK, it's not a sticker, but I do like it.
(17:44):
So I'll let this pass. Just. But I amquite scared of you when you say that too.
[Voiceover]OF:
Tom Barker, the diplomat from Episode 25.[Clip]
TB (17:56):
So unfortunately, I don't use stickers. So, Barack Obama in 2008, when he was elected
president, was the first president to begiven a phone. And he wrote messages on
his phone in proper prose. So he would writefull sentences, and never abbreviate anything.
So I was quite inspired by that. And I hada couple of friends who were also, sort of,
(18:17):
along that pedantic line. And the look of disdainwhen I would send a smiley face was enough that
I've just never been able to do it. I keepon wanting to, I see these people who do it.
But then, in my line of work, the emoji couldbe misread in so many ways. And it would be
quite hilarious… I mean, I really wish I could,because it would be so fun to just put up a ‘Bring
(18:39):
it’ sticker or something, and see what wouldhappen. But then, yeah, it would be awkward.
OF (18:44):
Yeah, I guess if there's one profession where I can forgive you for not using stickers,
it would be yours, but I am still disappointed.TB: Ah, just can you imagine a 65-year-old
ambassador trying to navigatewhich is the appropriate emoji?
Do you use ‘Waving cornfield’? Or do you use‘Hot dog’? ‘Aubergine aubergine aubergine!’
(19:11):
[Outro]OF:
Well done for making it through, you have reachedthe end of today's compilation. Hope to see you
again next time, I think the topic will be equallyas polarising since we'll be looking at the guests
favourite places to hang out in China. And sincemost of the guests from Season 01 were based in
Shanghai, this gives us a chance to alienate notjust those of you listening outside of China,
(19:32):
but even within China who are basedelsewhere. What a great idea this was.
[Clips]PG: Thank you very much.
MZ (19:38):
Thank you. EO
AP (19:38):
Thank you too. JL
GL (19:39):
Thank you. MZ
VV (19:39):
Thank you so much. NS
LL (19:39):
My pleasure too. SD
YF (19:41):
Thank you. NY
EM (19:43):
Thank you. SY
NS (19:46):
Thank you for having me. SM
AW (19:48):
Thank you. SDM
LC (19:49):
Thanks for having me. YY
RC (19:56):
Thank you so much for having me. GN
GC (20:00):
Thank you TB
you very much.SC: Thank you.
AD (20:03):
Great to see you too. LT
SB (20:05):
Thanks. OC
[Trailer]Nick YU: Yeah,
that is just a boy. He’s so happy.When he walks, he’s so happy.
You know, I think that is me. I'm a guy, fromthe bottom of my heart, who wants to be happy.
[Intro]OF: Welcome to Mosaic of China,
a podcast about people who are making theirmark in China. I'm your host Oscar Fuchs.
(00:24):
Today's compilation is going to work eitheramazingly or terribly. This week we're looking at
how the guests from Season 01 of the show answeredthe question “What is your favourite WeChat
sticker?” At this point, I would have explainedto those outside of China about what WeChat is.
But thanks to Donald Trump's recent executiveorder threatening to ban it in the U.S,
(00:45):
I think everyone out there knows whatwe're talking about. Stickers are little
animations, the likes of which you see on allinternational social media platforms these days.
But they are particularly wellsuited and well integrated to WeChat.
There's simply no debate about it: using WeChat stickers is the best. (00:58):
undefined
Here's why today's show might go wrong. Firstly,you might not care one bit about WeChat stickers.
Fair enough. Secondly, you might careabout them, but that doesn't mean that
you want to hear 30 people describe them toyou in an audio format. Also fair enough.
(01:19):
Thirdly, you might be in one of the WeChatlisteners groups, you might love WeChat stickers,
but that doesn't mean that youwant to be bombarded by 30 of them,
which is exactly what is going to happenalongside the release of this compilation.
More than fair. Or you might be looking at theversions of these stickers that I've posted
on Instagram at oscology* and on Facebook atmosaicofchina, and correctly concluded that they
(01:40):
are irrelevant to you if you don't have WeChat.So with all that in mind, here is today's special
compilation episode. I don't know if it's going towork but please send me your feedback either way.
[Main][Voiceover]
OF (01:54):
Lexie Comstock, the cookie supplier from Episode 20.
[Clip]LC: Some people
are very good at WeChat sticker language. You areone of them - yeah, you're pointing to yourself,
I was going to give that to you anyway, but sure.OF: Give me credit for my WeChat game. Come on.
LC (02:06):
Mine is very bad, and very simple. Because it just takes so much time to be like… I don't know.
So I like the ones that have been pre-loadedon my WeChat. And those are the little, like,
bunnies? What are they? The little bunnies? And Ifind that the like, what would you even call that
hand motion? Like a hula, almost.OF: Yeah.
It just applies in many situations. So I like the.. it’s just, kind of, my fallback. I get
(02:28):
genuine joy from using it. And it's super cute.OF: Listen, I'll explain how you have many
different stickers and make it work. Youlist them in order of what emotion you
want to convey.LC: Really?
OF (02:39):
Yeah, so… LC
Oh, I'll teach you. LC
[Voiceover]OF:
Angie Wu, the jewellery craftsman from Episode 18.[Clip]
AW (02:52):
OK, so I actually change every month, or every two months, depending what I add, new ones. But
recently it has been this reindeer that’s rolling,like, on his back, on waves. And he’s just rolling
on this, looking super happy and comfortable.OF: That's cool because you actually
(03:13):
do a lot of water sports, right?AW: Yeah, I actually do. I do windsurfing
and kitesurfing. And this little reindeerjust reminds me of my happy time by the beach.
[Voiceover]OF:
Gigi Chang, the translator from Episode 24.[Clip]
GC (03:30):
Well, I like the WeChat pups, the green one and the white one.
OF (03:33):
Oh I love those, I always use those. GC
Do you have a particular sticker that you like the most?
GC (03:40):
I think I like most of them. I think there’s one where one of them just walks
off and takes a dump.OF: Oh,
really?GC: Yeah. I think there
was one that was just sort of like ‘poo’.OF: OK, well if you can find that,
then send it. I’ll put that online too.GC: Yeah. I don't think I made it up,
I think it’s real.[Voiceover]
OF (04:01):
Sanford Browne, the biochemist from Episode 29.
[Clip]SB: So for WeChat stickers, for me - probably
like many people - you’re always “Look, what's themost current one? I got to have that one, that's
really good”. But I find, particularly in the morecartoonish ones, they're great but they're only
great for a few weeks. And then there's one thatI really like. It's a dog, a pug, just walking
(04:24):
and then it looks straight in the camera, and it'smore of that surprise, like you're really - “Huh?
What's happening?” - which is more of your dailylife in Shanghai, so that's why it relates.
[Voiceover]OF:
Lori Li, the private club GM from Episode 10.[Clip]
LL (04:40):
Yeah, there is a panda. He destroyed everything in the office.
[Voiceover]OF:
Astrid Poghosyan, the violinist from Episode 04.[Clip]
AP (04:53):
I have an addiction with the stickers. I have, like, 200-something, so I have to choose.
OK this is my favourite.OF: Ahh.
One of the frequent ones. I'm using. It's very hard for me to describe what it is,
like. But um, once you say something that somebodydidn't expect, or you got them, you just send this
in sort of like… “I told you!”OF: “I told you”, pointing at
(05:16):
you… And this part's coming out, it’sAP: It’s a lot of… Once you live here,
I think it's a lot of things that's like “I toldyou so”, right? And it just becomes like that.
OF (05:24):
Right. So actually yeah, it's a cute way of saying “I told you so,
I’m cleverer and better than you.”AP: Yes. Exactly. Thanks.
[Voiceover]OF:
Simon Manetti, the businessleader from Episode 17.
[Clip]SM: How does one describe a
WeChat sticker? So it's not creepy, but anythingwith kids in it. They're just so real. Right?
(05:45):
So kids doing a dance, kids doing fist pumps. I'mall for it. I go authenticity, unbridled passion.
[Voiceover]OF:
Nick Yu, the playwright from Episode 13.[Clip]
NY (05:59):
Yeah, that is just a boy. He’s so happy. When he walks, he’s so happy. You know, I think that
is me. I also want to be like that. When I wasyoung in the village, I would be just like that.
All the world is mine. I'm a guy, from thebottom of my heart, who wants to be happy.
(06:20):
[Voiceover]OF:
Roz Coleman, the theatre producer from Episode 22.[Clip]
RC (06:27):
Let me just show you… here you are. ‘Orange Dancing Boy’, or ‘Orange Boy’. I mean,
he's another door opening in a way because thenafter that, you have to collect every single
one that this kid has been a part of. So there’s‘Orange Boy’, there’s also ‘Green Boy’, there's
also ‘Purple Boy’, they're all the same boy. Hehas different outfits on. He's always dancing,
dancing with a joy that is unparalleled by anybodyelse's dancing. It's completely unselfconscious.
(06:51):
I like to think that he doesn't know that he'sa WeChat sticker, and that there's not going to
be that problematic thing of putting your kids onthe internet, and then they grow up to resent you.
[Voiceover]OF:
Maple Zuo, the comedian from Episode 02.[Clip]
MZ (07:07):
櫻桃小丸子 [Yīngtáo Xiǎo Wánzi], like a Japanese cartoon. She's so happy and innocent,
and she has a happy family as well. And I thinkI just I want to be her. But I can't be her. But
I like her. She’s just so happy and doesn’tthink about anything. I had such a dark side
in my childhood, but hers doesn’t. So I hopethat my daughter maybe can grow up like that.
(07:31):
[Voiceover]OF:
Greg Nance, the ultramarathonathlete from Episode 23.
[Clip]GN: Yes, my two favourite WeChat stickers. One
is Derek Zoolander, and he's dancing with hisfriends in his open air Jeep. And that's from
one of my favourite movies, Zoolander. And thesecond is the rapper Drake. He's got a song
(07:53):
called Hotline Bling, where he does this kindof fun dance. And there's a sticker where he's
actually playing Fruit Ninja, which is fantastic.OF: Thank you, that's going on social media
afterwards.GN: Boom.
[Voiceover]OF:
Sabrina Chen, the dance programmecurator from Episode 26.
[Clip]SC: くまモン [Kumamon] rolling on the floor.
OF (08:15):
OK, let's see this. You've just sent it to me, right?
SC (08:18):
Yes. OF
Yeah. OF
seen it through a couple of loops now, and I'mlaughing. OK. I'm a fan. I'm gonna use that one.
[Voiceover]OF:
Emily Madge, the aquariumconservationist from Episode 14.
(08:38):
[Clip]EM: Um, so it's a woman with attitude, strutting
down the street. And she grabs a businessmanand starts dry-humping him, and his face.
OF (08:53):
Oh my word! EM
how to describe it. How would you describe it?OF: That's how it looks. I'm actually… I'm a
little bit embarrassed, am I going red?EM: That’s why it's my
favourite. You have to post it.OF: OK, I'm posting it. I definitely… I'm
doing it under duress. This is objectifying.I am completely scandalised by this one.
EM (09:12):
OK, I’m sorry to put you in that position. OF
[Voiceover]OF:
Jorge Luzio, the marketerfor Sprite from Episode 05.
[Clip]JL: It's about
a famous star of soap operas in Mexico. Actually,I was so surprised to receive that here in China,
you know, on the other side of the world. Andit’s this beautiful girl, but it’s so eighties,
(09:38):
and so old-fashioned, and yet so insightful and socurrent right now. And so that's my favourite one.
OF (09:46):
And you know what? It has a great caption. But I’m not going to ruin it, I’m going to let people
look at it on social media.JL: Yeah, I love it.
[Voiceover]OF:
Abe Deyo, the tour manager from Episode 27.[Clip]
AD (09:58):
This one, because it annoys my fiancée, because I do a similar face.
OF (10:04):
OK, so can you explain what this one is? AD
doing an arrogant… Or no…OF: Oh, I would say arrogant.
AD (10:14):
Yeah. An arrogant little kissy face, like smooch. Air smooch.
OF (10:18):
Yes. And there’s a high level of smugness. AD
Yeah, that would annoy a fiancée, that would. AD
And you do this face? I can't imagine you doing this face.
AD (10:27):
I do that face. OF
It definitely gets me into trouble. Every time I put that sticker up, It's like “Oooh.”
Eye-rolling.[Voiceover]
OF (10:37):
Eric Olander, the journalist from Episode 03. [Clip]
EO (10:40):
I have a lot. I do. This was actually one of the harder questions. But I do like
the slow clap. So I've got a couple of slow clapstickers, just to make fun of my friends who are
either expressing pride or expressing something,and you kind of give them a slow clap. So yeah,
so I'll say the slow clap.[Voiceover]
OF (11:01):
Lissanthea Taylor, the pain expert from Episode 28.
[Clip]LT: My favourite WeChat sticker is
Tina Fey - Liz Lemon - high-fiving herself.OF: Excellent. I know the one.
I must use that one quite a lot as well.LT: It fits our similarly slightly
snarky and sarcastic personalities.OF: Yeah, that's right. Because we
(11:23):
think we're always right. And there's noone else who actually believes us. So we
might as well just high-five ourselves.LT: What do you know, we’re not right?
I mean, yeah, sorry. LT
[Voiceover]OF:
Octo Cheung, the fashion designer from Episode 30.[Clip]
OC (11:37):
Oh. OF
It’s an illustrated human, and the hands are moving like a fan, and firing
many hearts from them.OF: That’s very cute.
[Voiceover]OF:
Sebastien Denes, the inclusionadvocate from Episode 11.
(11:58):
[Clip]SD: An old lady who is just laughing out
loud. I think sometimes we are tooserious. And it's just about laughing.
[Voiceover]OF: Stephane de Montgros,
the events company CEO from Episode 19.[Clip]
SDM (12:15):
Let me send it to you. So a friend of mine actually recorded a short video of a
buddy of mine and myself outside of a restaurantin Taipei. And I'm just doing some silly dancing
in front of the restaurant. So I just think it'sfunny because there's myself in there and I have
no idea how you get that kind of stuff done.OF: And in what situation would you
send this sticker?SDM: When I'm happy,
which happens every half an hour.OF: Ah beautiful. And sickening at the same time.
(12:40):
[Voiceover]OF: Noah Sheldon,
the documentary filmmaker from Episode 09.[Clip]
NS (12:46):
Mmm. There's one that I've been very fond of lately, which is a
girl on a bicycle chasing a motorcycle.OF: And in what context do you use that,
like when you're running late? Or…NS: More like doing something impossible. Like ‘We
can do it’. I'm also very fond of the boy withthe extremely large comb, slowly combing his hair.
(13:10):
[Voiceover]OF: Nini Sum, the artist from Episode 16.
[Clip]OF: OK, can you describe this?
I don't know, this is… In Chinese it’s called 草泥马 [cǎonímǎ]. It’s like this kind
of… I don't know what kind of animalthis is, like a sheep or something.
OF (13:30):
I think it's a llama. Is it a llama? NS
that’s the name of it. And I just like his face.It’s like just chewing and like “Eh?” He just
turns into like “Whaaaat?” It's really silly.And people say it’s like me. So I use this a lot.
[Voiceover]OF:
(13:53):
Philippe Gas, the Disneyresort CEO from Episode 01.
[Clip]PG: I have a couple, but the one I use a lot is
a little baby chicken that looks very grumpy andhas a cigarette in his mouth. And that’s the way
I look and I sound, I think, on Mondays.So typically I send that to anybody who's
talking to me on Mondays, that's the face I makebecause it represents my mood. Really my mood.
(14:16):
[Voiceover]OF: Gina Li, the invention
company CEO from Episode 06.[Clip]
GL (14:22):
It's Super Mario shaking his head, as a super rock star. If I want to cheer people up, and then
bring back some energy, I just do that. Like,every time I look at it, I just wanna do the same.
(14:47):
[Voiceover]OF: Srinivas Yanamandra,
(15:37):
the compliance leader from Episode 15.[Clip]
SY (15:39):
The WeChat sticker is a cute little girl. And she exudes a kind of weird expression, like
“Oops", kind of a thing. And that is the mostneeded in the messaging platforms, especially
when you do those silly mistakes, actually.OF: This is actually one of my favourites too.
Is it? OF
way of contorting her face.SY: Yes, yes.
(16:01):
[Voiceover]OF:
Yael Farjun, the historicalresearcher from Episode 12.
[Clip]YF:
So I sent you the sticker…OF: Oh, yes.
YF (16:13):
…Of Gal Gadot, when she is excited about something. I find myself using that a lot in
China, because again, there are so many newthings happening all the time, you know. And
so I'm excited a lot about daily life in China.And, well it's Gal Gadot, so of course, you know.
[Voiceover]OF:
(16:34):
Michael Zee, the Instagraminfluencer from Episode 07.
[Clip]MZ: My favourite WeChat
sticker is this little girl that’s saying ‘Bye.’It is the perfect way to end the conversation.
OF (16:47):
I'm looking at it now. Yes, you know who this is, right?
MZ (16:51):
I know she's famous for something, but I don’t know what.
OF (16:54):
This is Honey Boo Boo. MZ
[Voiceover]OF: Vy
Vu, the fitness community leader from Episode 08.[Clip]
VV (17:06):
Gosh, people are gonna hate me when I say this, but I actually don't use WeChat stickers.
OF (17:11):
Get out. VV
I'll talk about my most used emoji.OF: OK.
VV (17:20):
It's actually the cleaver, the knife. And don't think that I'm a serial killer,
but I actually use it in a tongue-in-cheekkind of way. So I use the phrase “or else”,
and then I'll throw in three cleavers. Sothis will just be in a regular social context,
like “I'll see you tomorrow… or else”.OF: OK, it's not a sticker, but I do like it.
(17:44):
So I'll let this pass. Just. But I amquite scared of you when you say that too.
[Voiceover]OF:
Tom Barker, the diplomat from Episode 25.[Clip]
TB (17:56):
So unfortunately, I don't use stickers. So, Barack Obama in 2008, when he was elected
president, was the first president to begiven a phone. And he wrote messages on
his phone in proper prose. So he would writefull sentences, and never abbreviate anything.
So I was quite inspired by that. And I hada couple of friends who were also, sort of,
(18:17):
along that pedantic line. And the look of disdainwhen I would send a smiley face was enough that
I've just never been able to do it. I keepon wanting to, I see these people who do it.
But then, in my line of work, the emoji couldbe misread in so many ways. And it would be
quite hilarious… I mean, I really wish I could,because it would be so fun to just put up a ‘Bring
(18:39):
it’ sticker or something, and see what wouldhappen. But then, yeah, it would be awkward.
OF (18:44):
Yeah, I guess if there's one profession where I can forgive you for not using stickers,
it would be yours, but I am still disappointed.TB: Ah, just can you imagine a 65-year-old
ambassador trying to navigatewhich is the appropriate emoji?
Do you use ‘Waving cornfield’? Or do you use‘Hot dog’? ‘Aubergine aubergine aubergine!’
(19:11):
[Outro]OF:
Well done for making it through, you have reachedthe end of today's compilation. Hope to see you
again next time, I think the topic will be equallyas polarising since we'll be looking at the guests
favourite places to hang out in China. And sincemost of the guests from Season 01 were based in
Shanghai, this gives us a chance to alienate notjust those of you listening outside of China,
(19:32):
but even within China who are basedelsewhere. What a great idea this was.
[Clips]PG: Thank you very much.
MZ (19:38):
Thank you. EO
AP (19:38):
Thank you too. JL
GL (19:39):
Thank you. MZ
VV (19:39):
Thank you so much. NS
LL (19:39):
My pleasure too. SD
YF (19:41):
Thank you. NY
EM (19:43):
Thank you. SY
NS (19:46):
Thank you for having me. SM
AW (19:48):
Thank you. SDM
LC (19:49):
Thanks for having me. YY
RC (19:56):
Thank you so much for having me. GN
GC (20:00):
Thank you TB
you very much.SC: Thank you.
AD (20:03):
Great to see you too. LT
SB (20:05):
Thanks. OC
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