The Lie of Wellness & The Myth of Freedom

What if the systems we trust—healthcare, education, even our economy—aren’t designed to heal or empower us, but to keep us asleep? nd what if true freedom isn’t found in rebellion, but in reclaiming authorship of our soul and society? The prevailing notion that the systems we hold in high regard—namely healthcare, education, and our economic frameworks—are fundamentally flawed and designed to perpetuate complacency rather than foster empowerment is the crux of our discourse.

This week, I engage in a profound dialogue with Aaron Scott, a former Wall Street insider who has transitioned into a consciousness guide and host of The Evolved Podcast. Together, we delve into the intricate architectures that underpin modern existence, interrogating the myth of freedom and the commodification of wellness. We explore the emotional and spiritual ramifications of systemic indoctrination, and chart a path toward reclaiming our inner sovereignty. Join us as we embark on a transformative exploration that promises to awaken the dormant potential within us all.

Takeaways:

• The systems we trust, including healthcare and education, may be designed to keep us complacent rather than empower us.
• True freedom arises not from rebellion but from reclaiming our authorship of both our souls and society.
• The illusion of wellness is deeply embedded in the capitalist structure of modern healthcare, prioritizing profit over genuine healing.
• Identity is shaped by industrial forces, resulting in emotional costs that we often overlook in our daily lives.
• The psychological toll of systemic indoctrination leads us to accept norms that are detrimental to our true well-being.
• Inner sovereignty is crucial for personal transformation, allowing us to navigate the complexities of modern existence with clarity and purpose.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Hey, one more Thing before yougo. What if the systems we trust,
healthcare, education, evenour economy, aren't designed to heal
or empower us, but to keep usasleep? What if true freedom isn't
found in rebellion, but inreclaiming authorship of our soul
and society? In this week'sepisode of One More Thing before
you go, I sit down with AaronScott. He's a former Wall street

(00:21):
insider turned consciousnessguide and host of the Evolved podcast,
a brilliant podcast. You needto listen to it. With nearly two
decades of experience inglobal finance, Aaron now uses his
lens to expose the hiddenarchitecture behind modern life,
from the illusion of wellnessto the industrial shaping of identity.
Stay tuned. We're going toanswer these questions and more.

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I'm your host, Michael Hirsch.Welcome to One more Thing before
you go. I'm really excitedabout this episode because in it,
we're going to journey beyondthe surface into the hidden architecture

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of modern life. I know that weall want to think about it. We all
want to delve into it. We eachwant to explore it. And we're going
to explore how ancient wisdom,metaphysics, and real world systems
intertwine, because I thinkit's integral to how we are acting
today. They form the invisiblescaffolding of our beliefs, but these
aren't just ideas. They're theforces shaping our identity, our

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health, and our freedom. Thisisn't a conversation about what's
broken. It's a reckoning, aremembering, a call to reclaim what's
sacred. We confront the mythof freedom in a system built on illusion.
How healthcare capitalismhijacked the very meaning of healing,
that's a little personal tome. The industrial design of identity

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and the emotional cost and thespiritual and psychological toll
of systematic indoctrination.So settle in, open your mind and
join us for this conversation.Aaron, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having me. Michael,excited to be here.

(02:10):
What it's been a journey. Whata journey. You have.
Some good, some bad, butthat's what this is about, right?
It is.
It's about the journey.
It's about the journey.Exactly. And how we react to that
journey. I think because, youknow, we have a choice in how do
we react to that journey andhow we participate in it. So I really,

(02:32):
you know, thank you forjoining us and I appreciate your
journey and how. How we gotyou to hear. I. I would like to start
at the beginning if I can.Where'd you grow up?
I grew up outside of Boston,Massachusetts. I've been in New York
for how long? About 20 yearsnow. It's actually interesting, I

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think. What's the, what's therule if you're, if you live somewhere
for 10 years, you're, I thinkso over that identity. Yeah. So now
I guess I'm in New Yorker now.So you're a New Yorker now. All right.
Although being from Boston isnot, it's not an easy identity to
swallow say that much.
Well, you lost your Boston accent.
I really had one for someshared reason.

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That's okay, too. That's okaytoo. The. Had you always wanted to
work on Wall Street. What gotyou into that? Did you, you, you
as a child, would you want tobe when you grow up?
I don't even remember what Iwanted to be, per se, but I know
that. And yeah, this is kindof like part and parcel to, you know,

(03:35):
I think what we'll talk about.But, you know, you kind of, you kind
of go through a quote unquoteeducation system. You're in college,
you got to get a job. You'relooking to, you know, I think most
of us kind of focused onfinancial, you know, financial security,
financial freedom, certainlyfinances at the forefront. Right.
And I kind of said to myself,you know, I want to work on Wall

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Street. I'm interested in themarkets. I know that I can make money
there. And let's give it ashot, see what happens. Right. So
I started as, as an analyst ata large bank. I actually, I founded
my own hedge fund, my ownhedge fund a few years ago. So I've

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kind of, you know, I've reallybeen through the system. I know I'll
be more about global finance,corporate finance than I, I'd like
to. But yeah, it's been, it's,it's been quite, quite a professional
education, for sure.
I would think so. Especially,I mean, today it's going to be driving

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you kind of a little bit crazywith what's happening today in global
finance as well here in theUnited States. So many ifs, ands
and buts and what ifs andwhat's going to happen and what's
not going to happen. I thinkthat that's got to be kind of frustrating,
at least from your perspectiveas a professional.

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Yeah, I think the currenteconomic landscape is. I think it's
emblematic of the sort ofstructure that we, that we're operating
under. I think that I thinkthat there are so many factors at
play on a macro level thatit's difficult to kind of, in my
opinion, just kind of likefeel stable there. There are. However,

(05:24):
I should say that, you know,we as you're aware we, we operate
in this kind of like ainflationary regime, if you will.
So if the market sells off adecent amount, you know, you just
kind of buy and you. And youknow that the system kind of has
your back. So it's that.That's the prevailing, you know,

(05:46):
tailwind, if you will.
Well, I think, I think that,you know, we all, obviously, we all
want a financial future. Weall want, I think life in particular,
we want to be stable ineverything, in every part of it.
We want to be healthy, we wantto be financially stable. We want
to be happy in ourrelationships. We all try to balance
that. We all want the mind,body, soul connection, where that

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all applies to the currentsituations we're in, as well as our
work life, our personal lifeand our play life. I think that you
have a unique perspective inregard to that. I want to, if we
can, I would like to explorethe concept of, well, what if the

(06:30):
systems that we're in aren'tbroken or are they broken?
Yeah, look, you know, I thinkthat to. It's obviously a big question,
but what I'll. Look, what Iwill tell you is that, yes, they
are inherently broken. Theyare inherently fragmented, and there's
many, there's kind of manyways to skin the cat with that. I,

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I will tell you that what Irealized early on in my career was
that it were to kind of excelin the industry, I had to, in many
ways, like, sever a part ofmyself. I didn't really, I couldn't
really identify what it was atthe time, but I knew that I had to.
There were concessions thathad to be made. Right. And kind of
as I, you know, kept grindingand kept working, kept focusing and,

(07:16):
you know, it kind of like tooka real toll. I mean, it's. It's Wall
Street's kind of glamor, as Ithink at times, but it's, you know,
it's really like, it's longhours. It's, you know, staring in
front of. At least for me, itwas, you know, staring in front of
six screens all day for, youknow, 12 hours, 14 hours a day. And
it really, it really erodeskind of part of it. I don't think

(07:38):
that it's unique to WallStreet. I think. I think that it's
across kind of the spectrum.Right. I think that people in, you
know, within the currentsystems that we. We inhabit, I think
that they can sympathize withthat, empathize with that. I think
that they experience it aswell. You know, people are working
Crazy hours. The financialreward isn't always there, and they

(08:03):
feel it too. And I think thatwhat. I think that what you find
is that en masse, there is asense of something being off, right.
Oftentimes what we do is wepoint to a leader, a system, a institution,
and we say, it's their faultor it's the rich guy's fault. It's
this and that. But the truestory is a little bit different.

(08:25):
Now, certainly there are, youknow, corporations, individuals who
take advantage of the system,who, you know, who wield power in
sort of ways. I think, youknow, I think that when you're indoctrinated
in the system that anybodyreally would. Right. They're looking
to maintain power, retainpower, make more money, expand their

(08:49):
network, whatever it might be.Right. It's just kind of, again,
part of the kind ofconsciousness, if you will. And really,
a lot of what I. What I lookat is understanding the origin stories
of a lot of these sacredsystems that we kind of grow up into
and don't question and kind ofsay, okay, well, you know, gotta

(09:11):
strap my boots on. This is howit works. This is the deal. This
is what we're kind of borninto. And, like, this is just life.
This is just the way it is. Intruth, that's not really the case.
And like any system, anyinstitution, any kind of external
structure, again, they, youknow, they embody our consciousness

(09:34):
and we embody itsconsciousness, which hope kind of
makes sense, but there's areciprocity there. And, you know,
we as a human civilization orsociety, we create. We create these
models, we create thesesystems, we create this infrastructure.
And what you find is that whenyou kind of peel back the layers,

(09:56):
there was an interesting kindof situation that took form with
respect to our currentinstitutions. We can talk about them.
Government, education, we candrill down on the systems. Capitalism,
socialism. But when you lookkind of at the foundation of these
systems is where you kind of.You kind of find the real meat of

(10:18):
the story. And what'sremarkable is that a lot of the story
is tied to institutionalreligion and kind of some of the
modern ages of kind of themodern age of enlightenment and rationalism
that kind of, you know, arethe backbone of the way we structure.

(10:44):
Economy, structure, governmentstructure, democracy, structure,
all sorts of things. We havereally inherited these kind of rationalist
ideologies. So I can stopthere and dive a little bit deeper
if you want, but you kind oftell me if you'd like me to.
Well, I think that from my ownunderstanding is they're Kind of

(11:08):
designed to function the waythat they're. That they're functioning
at the moment.
Oh, they're operatingextremely. They're operating extremely
well. Which. Which runs incontrast to the way that we operate,
actually. Right. So. So I'llkind of. I'll kind of keep going
here and I'll. But also backup. So, you know, when I kind of.
When I've been on this journeyfor maybe like for a couple of decades,

(11:30):
which is kind of crazy when.When I think about it, when I look
back on it, but I've alwayshad kind of this kind of like, thirst
for curiosity. I was aphilosophy economic theory major,
and I always kind of wanted tounderstand, like, what was the underlying
consciousness? Why. Why werethese our values? What happened?
What structured things? Whywere these systems put in place?
I don't necessarily know whythat was the case, but I've always
had this kind of curiosity,right? And what you find is that

(11:56):
there was this disconnectionbetween a lot of kind of ancient
sacred knowledge and, youknow, our current modern state of
existence, if you will. Andthere are a lot of, you know, univers.
There are universal laws that,you know, make up the universe. So,

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for example, you know, theuniverse operates through polarity,
you know, light from darkness,male and female creation. Inhale,
exhale. This is the. This isreally the bread and butter of the
way the universe operates.Right, Yin and yang. Exactly. And,
you know, we are. Whether kindof people understand this or not,

(12:39):
but, you know, we are con. Weare all connected. There is this
underlying interconnection,and we operate under this illusion
of separateness where we areseparate from other people, we are
separate from nature, we areseparate from the fabric of the universe.
But in truth, you know, we'rereally all connected. This is, you
know, easily understood whenyou look at just, you know, pure
facts. We have things calledmirror neurons in our brains that

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allow us to experienceemotions with other people. You know,
somebody gets hit, we wince.Baby see somebody else crying, the
baby cries. I mean, there'sthis really kind of embedded connection.
We can, in this kind of. Wecan go deeper on that, but this transcends
into our relationship withthe, you know, the natural world.

(13:23):
We, again, we inhale oxygen,we expel carbon dioxide. Ecosystems.
There are, you know, treeshave these massive connections underneath
the ground through, you know,fungi that, you know, kind of, if
one tree doesn't have enough,another, you know, tree helps them
out. So physics is showingthis how, you know, the foundational

(13:43):
structure of our reality isn'tmatter. It's it's, you know, the,
the quantum realm, it'sconsciousness. So all of these things
are kind of not well known,but this is, this is the nature of
our reality, right? So if whathas happened is, you know, we again
inhabit this, this body, thisunique form. We are the universe

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experiencing itself in ourunique form. Everybody has their
own experience, right? And wecontribute to this consciousness.
We contribute to the ideologyof society. You know, the way that
we elect to manage, you know,to manage a company, to run a country
echoes into, you know, the,the round. Right? And this isn't,
this isn't like mystical orwoo woo. This is just how it is.

(14:30):
We, we see its results in theworld around us, right? If a video
goes viral, if a new storycomes out, people are impacted. I
think of it kind of that wayfor people who, you know, are kind
of saying, what is this guy?Right? So part of us is, goes back
to this polarity and weoperate best and we operate kind

(14:54):
of in alignment when we arebalanced, when this, when these polar
forces are balanced. So, youknow, we've created institutions
and structures that, and thisisn't about, this isn't necessarily
about like a sinisterconstruction. This is just the result
of them. Right.
It's our modern systems, ourmodern, today's, our modern systems,

(15:15):
I think they've shaped ouridentities unconsciously that we
just kind of go with the float.
Exactly. And, and we live in,you know, people say, oh, it's a
man's world, but we live, welive in this hyper masculine overextension
of what's called the masculineforce, where, you know, we're kind
of like sacred masculinitywith respect to, you know, feminine

(15:38):
energy, if you will, sacredfeminine, which is kind of how a
lot of the metaphysical, kindof spiritual, you know, people in
that space understand these,these concepts. But it doesn't have
to be kind of something thatcould be understood on, you know,
biological level on a, again,across many different kind of planes

(15:58):
of understanding. But whenthat hilarity is thrown out of whack
and it's been, and when it'sthrown out of whack with such a degree
that it is kind of today whereyou have these, you know, again,
these institutions that wehave to really kind of, you know,
mold ourselves to, that wehave to shape our own constitution,

(16:18):
our own identity around itperpetuates and it pushes this imbalance.
And we see it with our health,with our mental health, with our
physical health. We havecreated entire economies that don't
nourish us from the Foodindustry. We have industrialized

(16:42):
the entire agriculturalbusiness, where we create these GMO
products that are stripped ofnutrients that are good for business,
but they're not good for theindividual. We, you know, we have.
Our education system is reallykind of a. Is really a construct
to create, you know, obedient,docile factory workers. That was

(17:06):
the original kind of Prussianmodel that it was structured around.
So all of these kind of. Allof these systems are really focused
around capital and efficiencyand productivity. And here we are,
you know, we are not a robot.We're forced to contort ourselves,
to perform in these systemsand what that is.

(17:27):
Yeah, I'm sorry, would youagree that. I didn't mean to interrupt
you. Just a thought. Hit me.Would you think, by what you just
described, do you think welive a life designed by industry
rather than intention?
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Welive a life, um. We live a life that
is governed primarily bycapital, by money. And the, And.

(17:50):
And the, you know, thestructures that accommodate this
money are, Are ourinstitutions, which have been, you
know, our sacred institutions.All of them have been wholeheartedly
corrupted by. By specialinterests, by money, by corporations.
This is well known, right?It's coming to the forefront now
in many different ways. Butit's. It's one thing to kind of understand
it. It's another thing to. Todigest and fully see how it's impacting

(18:15):
us, right, On. On a. On adeeper level. And people don't necessarily
see it or understand how itdoes, but it shapes everything. You
know, not just doesn't have.It doesn't have an impact or the
environment, but it shapes ouridentity. It shapes the way that
we look at ourselves whenwe're. We're raised in these education
systems. You know, we aretaught that, you know, we are taught
good versus bad, right versuswrong. We're graded. You know, failing

(18:39):
is bad. We. We consumeinformation. We don't question anything.
You know, we consume beliefs.No question, right? So there's this.
This kind of performativeidentity that is, that. That takes
place. And like I said when Iwas in college, and I'm looking to
come out right, I. My. I hadto kind of, again, shift my focus

(18:59):
on how I would live my lifebased on my job, based on how I could
market myself, based on how Icould perform, right? This is very
different from a sort ofbalanced approach where, where you're
doing something that youreally, really enjoy and then entering
into the workforce and thenentering into the economy. So right
away, right, we embrace thisschism. We embrace this imbalance

(19:22):
and, and it, it's, it's shownits effects and people feel it. And
it's my belief what we'reexperiencing now in this kind of
age of awakening and thisevolution of consciousness is there
will need to be a fundamentalshift with respect to our institutions
and our systems thataccommodate the human being. And

(19:45):
oh, by the way, with theadvent of artificial intelligence
under its current paradigm andframework, it's, it's actually, you
know, an opposing force. Imean we are, you know, industry and
capital have been trying tokind of in many ways make us into
these robots. But you know,this is what's going to be in the,

(20:07):
in the future, right? Peoplewill be replaced and all of these
kind of dystopian ideals. Butin many ways it's going to be true.
This, this lie that like, oh,AI is going to make our lives better.
Like, sure, it's a byproductof it, but it's not really what the
development is about. It'snot, it's not what the core motivation

(20:28):
behind its cultivation is.Motivation is to sustain industry,
to bulk up defense, toincrease efficiency at multinational
corporations. So it's about,you know, it's about the, to back
it up. You know, the universeagain operates on balance and polarity

(20:49):
and when something has beenpushed so far to one side, oh, you
know, this idea of karma, it'sgoing to snap back. So it's about
how the universe rebalancesand it will rebalance, you know,
in any way through us. Right?We are a conduit of this, of this
kind of sacred energy andforce. And just very quickly, because

(21:09):
I've been saying a lot but youknow, for those people who, you know,
may not be kind of in, intutor and touch with a lot of this
stuff that I'm talking about,you know, this is, this knowledge
has been part and parcel, youknow, well known for millennia. It's
been suppressed. But yeah, butin, you know, I've been a part of,

(21:33):
I've been a part of secretsocieties. I've been, you know, it's,
it's only kind of woo woo ifyou're not aware, if that makes sense.
It's like.
No, I agree with that.
So esoteric, let's put it that way.
Yeah, I, I mean I can agreewith it a thousand percent actually.
I'd learned a long time ago alittle more about, and we're going

(21:56):
to get into some health, thehealth segment here in a second.
But even with, through my ownjourney, I got injured in the line
of duty. I was told Babe, I'dbe in a wheelchair for the rest of
my life. And then they weretrying to get me set up to be that
way. I chose a differentpathway. And through a lot of hard
work and diligence and a lotof mind, body, soul, connection,

(22:19):
connecting with the universe,connecting with mother nature, realizing
that I don't have to listen tothe medical community and sit in
the wheelchair for four yearslike I did, I walked my daughter
down the aisle and I walk inthe last year, 1.6 million steps
in the last year kind of athing, you know, which, which gave

(22:41):
me a better, a differentoutlook on life and how we are supposed
to fall under these norms andfall under these guidelines. Covid
was a double edged sword.Covid allowed my wife to work from
home for two straight yearswhere she worked from home. And instead
of fighting traffic everymorning for an hour and wondering

(23:03):
whether or not she was goingto get in the one of a billion accidents
out there, showing up to workfrustrated and angry, sitting in
a cubicle for eight hours andthen doing the same hour trip home,
she got to, we got to get up,we went on the back patio, we had
a cup of tea, we watched thehummingbirds go to the tree to trade
at the bushes. We saw that,you know, the birds in the yard would

(23:27):
be making noise. And we cameto realize that the opportunity for
work life balance we shouldn'thave to put up with. You're going
to come in, you're going toput nine hours into work. You're
going to be driving an hour toand an hour from, which means you

(23:47):
have to put gas in your car,there's more gas and wear and tear
on your cars. You're going toget those repairs, the whole gamut
in regard to that where shenow works a hybrid schedule. And
you'll notice that themajority of corporations kept going,
why can't we get back tonormal? Quote normal. Back to normal.
They want everybody back inthe office because they had more

(24:08):
control over them when theywere in the office. And I think,
you know, people startedrealizing there's more to life and
there's more.
Covid was a big, kind of, wasa big event from, from a global kind
of consciousness perspective.Sure, absolutely. People, people
were able to. And it, it wasjust by virtue of the fact that people
were able to. To slow down alittle bit. To stop.

(24:31):
Yes, yes, yes.
So to detach and I mean,forget about what happened from a,
you know, a policy level or Imean it's a whole different discussion
that I think that Sparked alot of other. Have conversation.
But yeah, I mean, in that, atthat time, I mean, what, what a different

(24:54):
kind of world in many ways, ifit weren't impacted health wise.
It was, it was kind of like autopian experience. Yeah.
I mean it really, it openedyour eyes to the fact that, wow,
there is more to life thanjust going to work and sitting there
and toiling away for somebodyelse, you know, eight, nine hours
a day and then fightingtraffic. There's more to life than

(25:16):
that. And it gave us a reset.And I think Mother Nature is doing
the same thing. I think MotherNature's bad. Between the earthquakes
and the fires, theearthquakes, the tsunamis, the volcanoes
erupting, you, Ted mentionedit earlier, the universe is, I think
they're ready to snap backbecause it's getting tired of it

(25:36):
as well. And part of thisdesign that the, the we have been
put into with our lives inthis pathway that we've been given
from birth and through eonsand through history, when it comes
to wellness, that illusionruns even deeper, I think. And, and

(25:59):
I had to fight that withmyself. It was kind of a light of
wellness, I think, because Iwas told, like me, I was told, you're
going to be in a wheelchairfor the rest of your life, and that's
where you're going to be. Andyou're going to be on this disability,
you're going to be that,you're going to be this, you're going
to need nurses, you're goingto need this, you're going to have

(26:19):
that. And I had to make aconcerted choice. Now, I'll be honest
with you. I sat there for fouryears feeling sorry for myself and
angry and pissed off andeverything else. My kids are the
ones that said, hey, get offyour butt and you can do this kind
of a thing. But I, I got offof the nine drugs they had me on.

(26:43):
I worked my way out of awheelchair, learned how to walk again.
I've had eight operations.Yes. While I was having this operation,
they tried to stuff me full ofdrugs, which I didn't do, which allowed
me to heal six weeks onaverage, quicker, faster than the
normal individual and soforth. And even in spite of all of

(27:03):
that, we were hit with amountain of medical bills, in spite
of having insurance. So I. Canwe delve a little on that direction
as well?
Absolutely. And you know,what's interesting is, you know,
people and you know, I'm notpointing fingers because, you know,

(27:24):
I'm, I experience it as well,you know, when everything revolves
around money and capital andmoney flows through these systems.
And you, and you are kind ofworking or you're kind of a cog in
that wheel. You don'tnecessarily think that your orientation
or your relationship withthose systems is strange, right?

(27:45):
So like a doctor, for example,you know, they're treating you, but
they're also running abusiness, right? They know that if
they prescribe X amount ofmedication to get you on some regimen
and they have some sales repfrom the pharmaceutical, you know,
like they're part of anecosystem now. It's not that they're,
that they're doing anythingnecessarily consciously wrong, but

(28:05):
they know that it's part ofsome model. So, you know, again,
right there, if we. Stop rightthere, if, if you have a healthcare
professional who is looking atyou as, you know, a somebody to kind
of make money off of, right?There's, there's a problem if they're
aware of another methodologyor treatment. Now what's the problem

(28:26):
is that it's not just about,you know, a doctor intentionally
trying to make money. It'salso their, the way that they've
been taught the, the, theeducation of, of, of doctors and
physicians and healthcarepractitioners. They, they don't necessarily
realize it. Actually many do.But it's still kind of taken as gospel

(28:50):
or as divine. You know, whenthey're brought up through this,
you know, allopathic approachto healthcare, where in truth, medication
is meant to suppress symptoms.No pharmaceutical company that I
don't know if has cured adisease, I mean, think about it,
that's not the businessthey're in. Right?
But they're making millionsupon billions of dollars.

(29:13):
Exactly.
With cancer, right?
As great as Pfizer is, youknow, what disease advocated, right?
I mean, it's the biggest scam,you know, it's one of the biggest
scams. So. And doctors areplugged into an indoctrinated system
of medical treatment. Now ifwe go back and peer back a layer
on this healthcare system, wecan point to a couple great industrial

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capitalists who are reveredas, you know, the great pioneers
of the industrial revolution,right? You know, guys like Rockefeller,
Carnegie, who through the,through the Flexer Report, basically,
you know, condemned allholistic treatments, basically said
that anything natural wasquackery, I think was the, was the
verbiage they used. And theyfunded medical schools and they pushed

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their petroleum back,pharmaceuticals and yada, yada, yada.
So again, it's important forpeople to care about, you know, to
think about origin story, tothink about, you know, well, why
is this not working for me.What, what was going on, what started
this, right? And this iswhere, where the individual in many

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ways takes back power. Andthat's a big part of what I'm trying
to do. I'm trying to, youknow, give people perspective, give
people knowledge and givepeople a whole understanding of their
existence in many ways toregain sovereignty, to empower, to
look critically and not justgo with the flow and not just accept.
Right. The state of the union,if you will. Right. So, you know,

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and what's crazy is that whenyou look at a lot of these holistic
approaches that were in placebefore the, you know, let's say 1920s,
if you will, they wereremarkably effective. A lot of health,
you know, a lot of plant basedholistic medicine, you know, medicines,

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everything from, you know,frequency based healing to plant
based medicine, you know, foodwas looked at in many ways as kind
of a medicine. It was lookedat as part of taking care of your
body. Today, half of people'sdiets are not even, shouldn't be
considered food. They're ultraprocessed, they're packed with, you
know, chemicals that are, thatshouldn't be consumed in the human

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body. Artificial. This, youknow, some of them are, some of them
are, you know, have shown,I've been shown to cause cancer.
Producers laden withpesticides. This is just part of
the industrial model. We mustconform and contort to the industrial
model. This is, you know,medicine isn't, doesn't get away
from it. And you know, if wego down to, even on the, you know,

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kind of bureaucratic level,look at the revolving door of the
fda, look at how the fda, youknow, allowed artificial flavoring
in our foods that were bannedfrom cosmetic products in the 80s.
I mean, it's, it's crazy,right? Crazy. And everybody turns
a blind eye. Nobody cares. Andthey wonder why there's rampant autoimmune
disease and rampant cancer,rampant this and rampant that. Well,

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guess what? It's because. It'snot because you, you know, whatever
they say, because you didn'tdo this or you did, it's because
it's because when you have asystem that is rotten at its core,
it touches all aspects oflife. And it may not have always,
but, but today it certainlydoes. And I think people, you know,

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people through TikTok, throughpodcasts, through Instagram, YouTube,
you know, people are waking upand they're saying, what, you know,
what the heck? I didn't meanto kind of go off on a tangent there,
but we can talk more about,about, about the medical industry,
but it's, it's, it's a sacredinstitution that should be protected

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by government, not used bygovernment and lobbyists. Same with
education in the call in thecollege. Supposed to be there to
protect us.
I think, I think capitalismhas hijacked our understanding of
health and healing.
Absolutely. And capitalism, itdoesn't have to be operating in this
form. This is, this is corruptcapitalism at its finest. Absolutely.

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And this, and also, this isn'treally, this isn't even a conversation
about capitalism versussocialism. That what we're talking
about here runs deeper thanthat. It's an undercurrent to this.
Well, you know, it'sinteresting. I think that, you know,
personally, I mean, you dealin this from a different perspective.
You, at least you have. Do youthink that we have consequences of

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treating wellness as acommodity? Because I think even as
a patient and the stuff thatI've gone through and the stuff my
family's gone through, ourdaughter has some issues that she's
dealing with here. And I thinkthey treat wellness as a commodity.
It's not, let's fix you. Letus get you well. Let's make a better,

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productive individual out ofyou, a very positive life for you
by treating you and helpingyou to heal. It's treated more as
a commodity.
Absolutely. I mean, we dogreat, Our initiative does great
treating trauma. It ishorrible at treating illness and
disease and in many waysintentionally doesn't cure, Obviously

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doesn't cure. And itperpetuates their problems. Let me
think about this for a second.I don't know if you're familiar with
the, with the, you know, withthe, the Bayer Monsanto relationship.
But, but you have, I mean, howcrazy is this? You have a, you have
a company that is sprayingpesticides, creating cancer, and
then to streamline anindustry, they, they merge with a

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company that has like,effective cancer treatments that
they're pesticide productscreate. I mean, it's beautiful from
a business model standpoint,but it's, but it shows, but it shows
how rotten and corrupt a modelis. And, and this, by the way, this
is looked at as from a, youknow, from a shareholder perspective

(35:12):
as good business. Right. Thisis. And, and when you have, again,
you have these. Yeah, let'skind of take a step back. We can
talk about, you know, guyslike Milton Friedman. But, but we
have a model that is wellknown where the shareholder is what
matters to a corporation.Nothing else was considered. Well,
what is that saying? Where isthe responsibility there? If the

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responsibility of acorporation is just to make money
for the shareholder There issomething inherently wrong with our
system. Period, End of storyright there. We have put together
unconsciously, while we'vebeen asleep, a mechanized society
that extracts from the humanlife experience. And people, you

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know, people. Kind of, a lotof people will default to a kind
of victim mentality where, youknow, it's these shadowy figures
behind a, you know, twitchingtheir mustaches with a cigar or whatever
it is, or some satanicrituals. Like. Yeah, there are people
who might be part of that, butit's. Don't be so, you know, don't
be so generous with yourconspiracy theories. This has been.

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This has been a evolution or aDM or a devolution over a long period
of time. It was a long time toget here. And it all started with
putting institutions,Institutions above. Above the human
beings.
Yeah, I agree with that. CBFSunday Morning had a really brilliant
episode a couple of weeks agowhere they were talking about that

(36:42):
in specific, with regard tokidney failure. And if people going
in for kidney treatments andtheir kidneys were failing because
of. Due to society, they hadkidney failure due to the pesticides
and all the rest of the crap.And then the same companies were
then charging for thetreatments and the dialysis and everything

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else. And they're chargingexorbitant amount of. Amount of money
for this. They had somedoctors on that they interviewed
as well as patients, but theyhad doctors on at the interview that
walked away from it going, Ican't do this anymore because it's
obviously corrupt. They. Theyopenly admitted the system is corrupt.

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You have these people creatingthe problem, and then you have them
fix. Creating the cure or thealleged cure, and they're making
money on both sides of it, youknow, and they want you to perpetually
be in the system, perpetuallyuntil you die.
And by the way, what'sinteresting is that because we are
kind of. There's this realecosystem, right? And because we

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were bound by, in many ways,kind of like these universal laws,
people don't realize how theywork and how they. Right, but there
are only certain things thatwe can do, right? There's only certain
ways to generate revenue or toexpand or unless it's some kind of,
like, new innovation. But oneof the. One of the biggest methods
is this is through this thingcalled the Agelian dialectic, which

(38:07):
is basically you create chaos,or rather you create order through
forced chaos, right? This islike one of the biggest prevailing
principle. We do this on aglobal kind of scale with, you know,
these kind of Westernhegemonic pursuits. We do this with

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corporations, we do this inthe medical industry. You know, again,
it's, it's. We create theproblem and then come up with a solution.
It's a brilliant, again,strategy. It's completely toxic and
it's, it's not the way that weshould be, you know, molding society.
But people, again, when you'reindoctrinated to think this way,

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when you look at yourself thisway and you see yourself this way,
why. Why wouldn't you beoperating with, with that consciousness?
The every, the people who arebeing impacted negatively are, and
don't realize this are just asvictimized as those who are operating
and wielding power. It's just,it's just manifesting itself in a
different way. They're just asdisconnected, they're just as unaware.

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They think that they're justascending in there, but they're not
living a whole life. They'renot living in symbiosis with themselves.
You know, it, it'sinteresting. I've, I've. You've mentioned
sovereignty several times andthe fact that we, you know, overall,
we may think of sovereignty asa country or, you know, and even

(39:31):
a state or some kind of aformation of sovereignty against.
Within themselves. But youspeak of it as we each have an inner
sovereignty ourself, Correct?
Absolutely.
And, you know, in a world ofexternal control, how, how do we
kind of tap into that andunderstand what. That we have options

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that we can. Because, I mean,there's so much. We could talk for
two hours. Aaron. It, it's. Or more.
There's a lot, it's a lothere. I've got like, I've got a.
Michael, I've got a bookcoming out called the Fifth Evolution.
Hopefully it's going to comeout in September. And I dive into
a lot of this stuff. It'sactually, it's. It's quite different

(40:15):
from my podcasts in that Idive into kind of like the multiple,
you know, levels of, of thesetopics. And again, it's about, it's
about our misunderstanding ofthe fundamental nature of our existence.
This idea of sovereignty.Right. Like, in truth, sovereignty
is about, you know, it's aboutrebalancing yourself so that you

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can exist in society. You canexist within these systems, but the
systems don't control you. Youcontrol yourself within the systems.
You regain sovereignty fromthem. You aren't moved by them. You
can, you can balance yourself.You can, you can. You have control
of your emotions, yourthoughts. You aren't enslaved to

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them. You. Right, so it's,it's about a reorientation and it's
about taking thisreorientation and you know, coming
back, embodying this andcoming back into the world. And a
lot of the spiritualmovements, which I have a problem
with is they kind of likethey, they bypass and they take you

(41:24):
outside of kind of thisreality, which is really not what
true awakening andspirituality is about, nor. Nor is
what it's really ever beenabout. And it's. I think it's a kind
of. I think it's kind of inmany ways just as bad as being pushed
kind of this. To this like,mass masculine paradigm. It's. You're
just as easily, you know,thrown out of. Out of, out of, you

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know, off balance and out ofthe real world. Right. That, that
we all occupy so oftentimes.And I think in general, people feel
like they don't have power,that they don't have control, and
they don't understand what'sgoing on. Well, it starts with, in
many ways it starts withconsciousness. It starts with the

(42:07):
way that they enter the world,the way that they inhabit their.
Their body, the way that theyexperience reality. Right. If you're
constantly reacting, ifyou're, if you, if you're going for
dopamine hits all the time, ifyou're, you know, taking down sugar,
if you're scrolling throughTikTok, you know, TikTok for hours,
if you're, you know, reactive,if you're focusing constantly on,

(42:29):
on the, on your body and onyour diet and, well, your, Your attention
is diverted outward. You'renever, you're never looking inside,
right? So what. It's. Becausepeople have been cut off from the
internal. And what you'll findis when you reorient and when you
look internally and you findways to, you know, touch that part

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of you, you experience in manyways a complete different reality.
You're. You shed your ego. Youaren't worried about what other people
think. You aren't reactive.You aren't operating out of habit.
You know, it's. It's. Thisisn't a kind of like outlandish conversation.
It's. It's actually what takesplace. Talk to me and the thousands

(43:11):
of other people who kind of,you know, embody this, this reality.
Right. So these are kind ofsmall side notes, but, but, you know,
things like, you know,meditative practices, breath work,
you know, having like, smallrituals where at night you, I don't
know, you light a candle andyou, you know, write something in

(43:31):
a journal and you sound kindof like superficial. But the, these
are the beginning steps. Tokind of reorienting and, and finding
that sacred part of you that'sbeen, you know, that's been severed
from your consciousness. It's,it's really. It's really about creating
a new way of life from theoutside so that you can reorient

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internally. Because ouroutside is connected to our inside,
right? It's like. Yeah, yeah,it's kind of obvious.
Well, I mean, I think we havean opportunity for an awakening and
I think within ourselves, youknow, and you touched on a little
bit of like the, themeditations and the way we eat and
the way we approach thingsfrom those regards and what we can
do. How can ancient wisdom andmetaphysics help us reclaim our truth?

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I have friends of mine thatare Native American, and I follow
both Native American and anAsian philosophy in regard to our
connection to the universe,our connection to nature, our connection
to each other in regard to allof that. So I, My. Our community
understands that I kind ofapproach life from that perspective

(44:45):
now. But can you share with ushow we. How we can take some of that
ancient wisdom and howmetaphysics helps us reclaim it?
Yeah, sure. You know, whatI'll kind of say is that I think
that before that, about kindof like taking that wisdom, because
there's a lot. There's a lotthere. But very quickly, you know,

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if you look at the kind oftypical relationship that people
have to spirituality, it's.It's through institutional religion,
right? And what, you know,there's been. I kind of. I touched
on this briefly at thebeginning, but what institutional
religion did for us. But oneof the biggest things they produce
is the hierarchical structureof. Out of everything of society,

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right? You have. They took.They took, you know, God. They put
it above the, above the human.They took the earth. They put that,
they put that up, you know,beneath the human, right? It was
really. It was really kind ofcanonized. It was this, this. This
understanding of structure.And upon institutionalization, you

(45:51):
know, let's look at therelationship that these institutions
created with, with individualsand with a religion. People look
to an institution, anintermediary third party, to access
a force, source that has beenin them all along that is part of
the very fiber of their being.I mean, it's a perverted kind of

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methodology. Now people willsay, oh, you know, I can touch the
teachings of Jesus. And it'snot. It's true, there is truth to
a lot of these, theseteachings. And. But it's one thing
to understand them and believein what he's saying. It's another
thing to embody them. Andembodiment doesn't take place on
an intellectual level. Yourbody doesn't respond to words that

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are read other than maybe, youknow, your chills. To really absorb
these, these metaphoricalconversations that we see in the
Bible. It's about transcendingthat plane. And, and that plane of
transcendence was severed fromhuman consciousness through religious
institutions. Just a fact. Imean, very kind of common sense thinking

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here. When you have a, whenyou have the Roman Empire, which
was a bloodthirsty, conqueringempire, take over a belief system
like Christianity, why wouldpeople think that it was kind of
about, you know, salvation andcommunion and you know, I don't know,

(47:20):
like light, airy things. Itjust, it's so strange to me that
that would be the kind ofbaseline, foundational understanding
of, of what this religion isreally about. And again, when you
go back and you see that itwas really a control mechanism and
it again, the hierarchy, thehierarchical structure became the
blueprint for our moderninstitutions and the, the age of

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enlightenment after that,which you know, further kind of severed
the human being from thesacred. Where we were told to believe
that we were just materialbeings, where you know, you had like
Descartes, you know, the, themind is separate from the body. You
had Newton with the, you know,with the, with the Newtonian concept

(48:08):
of the material world. Ittook, it further removed us from
our true connection and withsource, the connection that exists
inside of all of us. So thatwasn't as brief as I wanted to be.
But when you look at a lot ofthe metaphysics and if we take it
back to ancient knowledge, anyancient wisdom teachings and you

(48:30):
look at the understanding thatwe are now learning about in, you
know, through modern science,through modern physics, the quantum
realm that this facade thatwe, that we occupy, that the physical
body is just an illusion atour fundamental core. We are just
energy, we are vibration, weare, we are occupying a field. This,

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even still, even when I saythis to you sounds kind of far fetched
and outlandish, right? BecauseI'm touching my, my hand and my right,
my duck. So it's so hard toaccess. But, but in truth, what these
metaphysical teachings tellyou is that, you know, that we are
all vibration, that there is asacred reciprocity, the universe

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operates in balance. And whenyou incorporate and you understand
that you are not separate fromGod, you are not separate from Source,
that you are again a part ofSource experiencing itself, that
those, that those sacred laws,universal laws apply to you as well,
you have, you are Reconnectingto something far greater. Right?

(49:37):
You are reconnecting to. Youare aligning yourself with. With
the most powerful force in theuniverse. I mean, how empowering
is that? And how much, howmuch are you willing to bet on that
universal force working outfor you? Well, you know, let's. Let's
kind of make this metaphysicalconversation more practical. When
we contort ourselves toaccommodate these systems, when we

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take on careers that we thinkwill, you know, generate money, but
that will never nourish us. Wefind ourselves in situation that
we're in today where we, wherewe, again, work for money, where
we submit, where we just kindof. We don't have the time. We're
so exhausted, we don't havetime to think critically or go along
with it. We just kind of like,you just kind of bleed into it, right?
What, what isn't reallydiscussed is, you know, if you were

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to, quote, unquote, alignyourself with these universal forces,
with this order, with thesacred balance within you like we
talked about, and you pushforth with your ambition, and you
push forth what really drivesyou. And you then walk back into
the economy, and then you are.You're going to be successful because
you're being true to yourself.You are embodying truth. You are

(50:46):
embodying sacred reciprocity.You are embodying balance. You're.
You're feeding into a highervibrational field. You, you. If you
allow yourself to realize thatyou are bigger than what you think
you are, and you get to thatwith metaphysics, it reorients and
it gives you a whole newperspective on your life. And it's.

(51:10):
It's remarkable because if youdon't look at your life that way,
in many ways, you're living adeluded reality. You're living a
delusional reality. You're notliving in the actual reality. It
seems fringe and it seemsstrange. And it's like, you know,
what is this guy talkingabout? Or, you know, who are these
people talking about all thespiritual stuff? Like, obviously
everybody kind of has theirway of digesting this, and a lot

(51:34):
of stuff out there isn'tnecessarily accurate or good in my
opinion. But at its core, it'sall touching on the same message.
And it's through thisorientation, it's through this integration,
it's through this embodimentthat we experience what life should
be about. Not, I'm not tryingto be dogmatic, but it's. It's living

(51:57):
as a whole person andreorienting your life in that direction.
And, you know, again, you canBet on it. It's gonna, it's gonna,
it's gonna change the qualityof your life.
You know, it, it's, it's abrilliant, A brilliant explanation
of how we can find ourselvesand reconnect with, with source.

(52:19):
And it also, in addition tothat, the bonuses. It's a brilliant
explanation as to why I am nolonger a partisan Catholic. So next
time somebody asked me why.
I'm gonna look, it's, look,it's, it's. It's not about renounce.
It's not about renouncingreligion, but it's about, it's about
looking at religion, you know,for what it is. The. There's nothing
wrong with religion, but it'sabout your relationship with it.

(52:42):
It's about looking, lookingpast the periphery, you know, going,
going to, going to church ortemple or a mosque robotically and,
you know, kind of like goingon your phone during the prayer,
like, you know, kind of likeshaking the priest's hand at the
end. Like, that's notspirituality. It's going through
the motion. Right? And thisis, but this is the, this is part

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of this disembodied nature.It's part of this orientation that
we have with the world. Andpeople need to understand that they
are operating on multipleplanes of experience. They are operating
through their emotions,through their thoughts, through their
physical touch. When youcommunicate with somebody, you're
exchanging energy, right? Sonot everyone's going to get there

(53:26):
in their life, but if theycan, if they can try to reorient,
if they can try to think ofthemselves as what they really are,
which is part of thisuniversal consciousness that they
are impacting with everythingthat they do, it's going to, it's
going to change things.
I will tell you, from apersonal perspective, shaking the
hand of a priest and touchingthe universe in that regard is a

(53:49):
profound statement within mysoul that can never be replaced.
It was hugely significant inregard to my outlook on life in totality.
That's great. So, yeah, you'relucky to have experience. Most people

(54:10):
don't, don't even get that opportunity.
I'm grateful for where I am inmy life at this point. I am. And
the fact that I've had, youknow, one more thing before you go
has been. Even the injuriesthat I went through and me having
to redefine my purpose hasopened up a new ideal that I'm grateful
for. Because although, youknow, I loved being a cop, I was
a sergeant, I was going to bea lieutenant. I was going up the

(54:31):
line. That was my at the time,that was my purpose. And then when
I found this, conversationslike what we're having across the
world, it changed myperspective and gave me an education.
It allowed me to open up mysoul and open up my eyes and my heart
and to understand that thereis more to life and that we just
have to reach for it and wehave to make that choice. And so,

(54:55):
yes, that's why I appreciatethis. Well, let's talk about this.
What did your time on Wallstreet teach you about the power
of illusion or power andillusion? I guess a little bit of
both. I know they think we'vetouched upon it throughout the conversation,
but did you get a deeperunderstanding of the illusion that

(55:18):
we as humans are presentedwith in regard to life and how it
should be?
Yeah, absolutely. I think thatone of the, kind of. One of the main
things that I experienced wasreally about the illusion of identity

(55:39):
and how we kind of, you know,our relationship with ourselves,
which kind of sounds crazy,but, you know, you. Especially in
kind of a job like I had onWall street and, and many other people,
this isn't unique to me. Youknow, people identify with. With
their job. People identifywith the amount of money they have.
People identify with theirmaterial goods. People identify with

(56:02):
status. This is a superficialunderstanding of who they are. And
to go deeper, I mean, this iskind of obvious when you think about
it. People don't. People don'tlive their life that way. People
don't think of themselves thatway. They're. They're so kind of
blinded by this externalizedsense of reality, this externalized

(56:22):
version of himself. And intruth, if you go a little bit deeper,
you are not. You're not reallyyour. Your emotions. You're not really
your thoughts. You experience.You experience them, you experience
both, but you're. You're evensomething deeper than that to get
really. To get really kind ofmetaphysical here. And what I found

(56:46):
was that I was, you know, inmany ways identifying with my job.
I was solely living toaccumulate money. I was solely focused
on ambition. I was solelyfocused on this superficial identity
that I didn't even look at it.Superficial because everybody around
me was living that way. Thethings that I was focusing on, my

(57:07):
orientation to other people,our relationships were suffering.
I wasn't, you know, and what Ifound was that I kind of. I kind
of. This was kind of a bigpart of where, you know, my kind
of recent push where I. WhereI kind of. I've been on this journey
for a while, but I. I didn't.I wasn't really active until I actually
looked into the kind of going.Going out like this about five years

(57:28):
ago and I, it. It almostseemed like the right time. And I
didn't, I waited because itdidn't seem like we were quite there
yet. And you know, about ayear ago or so I said, you know,
this is. I think, I thinkwe're ready for this. I think that
we're. There's been a lot ofrevelation and I think this is a
good time to jump out into it.And I almost lost my train of thought

(57:51):
there. But what I will say isthat I was living this kind of misunderstood
sense of self, thismisunderstood identity, and I found
that I wasn't being satiate. Iwasn't happy. And I thought to myself,
look, I put myself throughsuch hard work and struggle and.
But I just, I don't care.It's, it's, it's. It's never really

(58:15):
driven me as it should. Youknow, it's like it shouldn't have
driven me. You know, what'sgoing on here? What am I missing?
Right? And it's. And I kind ofrealized, I knew it in a more of
a superficial fashion, in moreof a kind of intellectual fashion.
But it wasn't until I immersedmyself deeper that I realized that,

(58:40):
you know, that we are all inmany ways victims to this system,
the systemization of. Of ourreality. And it bleeds into our identity
and it creates a illusoryconstructs, you know, where, you
know, with individualidentity, even with, even with the
way that we look at things inour lives. I mean, we worship things

(59:08):
that we think will satiate usor that we think will help us or
that we think are good for us,but they're just not. And this idea
of illusion transcends thateven more. If you look at, let's
look at kind of economy, forexample. If you look at things like
the capitalist economy or theglobal economy, we. Let's look at

(59:31):
oil, for example. We have, youknow, we've got eight countries that,
that control 80% or we've gota group of countries that control
80% of the. The world's supplyof oil. Oil is prevalent all over
the world. The price of oil isnot dictated by supply, demand, economics.
It's dictated by the guys whocontrol most of the supply, right?
So, so the, the price ofthings is, is an illusion. The, Much

(59:54):
of the, the. The politicalstage, you know, it's illusion. It's
not. These are. There's thiskind of like acting going on. The,
the value of our dollar is Isnot even real. We, we operate. We,
we. The way that banks lend usmoney isn't real. Right. It's. People
think, oh, they put money intoa savings account and then a bank

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can lend off of that. Not howit works. Yes, there's a fractional
banking system of place, butit's, it's even more perverse than
that. So, so we live, youknow, we live within illusion. And
there are. There's so muchillusion out there. And in many ways
these illusions create a kindof scaffolding for identity. They

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also create a kind ofsuperficial sense of safety that.
And this is a big part ofawakening where, where this, these
illusions start to kind offade away. Where, where you realize
you're more than your ego.Where you realize that we are all
connected. Where you realizethat your orientation to the world

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wasn't the way it should havebeen because you had a understanding
of things. So we live andoperate within all of these illusions
and they impact ourconsciousness, they impact our relationship,
they impact our orientation inthe world. Most people think that
these illusions are theirreality, but in truth they're just

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not. And it's part of thissort of corrosive, you know, energy
that. Or structure that we,that we occupy and that we, that
we live within.
Yeah, I think that we, once wehave the opportunity, we make a choice

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to be able to understand thatwe have the freedom to make a. We
have a. Let me try that in acohesive thought. Once we realize
that there's more to life andthat we have the opportunity to be
awakened and to grasp that andget a better understanding of the
universe and what it is, howit is and how we fit within it. I

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think that it gives us a hopeto say that we can reinvent ourselves.
We can re. Educate ourselves.I think we can build ourselves in
a different modality to, toknow that we are operating here on

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this earth for ourselves andthose around us, not necessarily
for corporate, you know,structure or a capitalist structure.
I mean, we all need money, weall need to function and so forth.
But you, you, you, you canmake it so you're not governed by
it so much. I think.
Exactly. That's exactly right.Again, it's these types of changes

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that will happen becauseagain, good luck, overriding the
divine operating system anddivine program. But these things
start with seeds. The realevolution of consciousness, the real
revolution. You know thesaying, the revolution will not be

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televised. Right. Well, it'sbecause the real revolution is not
a theater where the chairs aremoved around. It takes place within
the human Soul, within thehuman consciousness. And just like,
I mean, you see what happenedwith, with COVID If we can, all right,

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over time, through awakening,through suffering, through, you know,
feeling that something's offthrough a rewaring, through whatever
means it happens. If we cancome to these realizations, the world
will change. These systems arenot set up in these structures that

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are never changeable. Wecreated them and we can change them
and we can move into a newreality through the way that we erect
these systems. This is not aconversation around Democrat, Republican,
capitalism, socialism. All ofthese systems, all these parties,
they. If they are inherentlycorrupt and they're not, and they

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don't have the properorientation to, you know, a sacred
balance of respect of, youknow, the feminine and the masculine
energy, however you want tounderstand it, care, soul and also
ambition, then we fall downthe same, you know, down. Down the
same path of, you know, theschism and the suffering, just. It's

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just inevitable.
Do you think the corruptnesshas gone past a point of correction?
I think that another illusionthat we operate under is that we
are not powerful. I think thatthis, especially this country, the
Constitution was written sothat the people were actually empowered.

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The second Amendment wasdrafted so that. Not so that we could
go hunting, it was so that wehad a militia that could stand up
against the tyrannicalgovernment. So I'm not saying to
grab your rifle, but what I'msaying is that there was a reason
for that. And we are operatingunder in many ways, a hidden tyrannical
structure where, where moneyis God, where, where we bend the

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money. The fact that, youknow, the political, the political
job now is really about kindof like going up there and, you know,
you're focused on gettingelected and you're focused on your
campaign financing, your focuson, you know, appealing to lobbies,
and you're focused. I mean,this is the job these don't concern

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for. There's no stewardship.It's self service, right? So. So
it's about, it's about, youknow, restructuring. And what's remarkable,
you know, Democrat orRepublican, you can't deny that this
administration through,through doge exposure, exposed. I
mean, just rampant corruptionon both sides of the party, right?
And you see this still withthese NGOs that, that wield power,

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that are giving kickbacks. Itexposed such a disgusting underbelly.
We have $36 trillion in debt.We're spending money like it's going
out of style. So there are somany things that we can do. Very,
you know, simple thingsreally, that we can put into place.

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This is, this isn't a, thisisn't a system that requires a complete
destabilization. Just not,it's, it's malleable. And it's, we
just have to get people torealize that they have power. They
can talk to their neighbors,they can talk to their friends. They
can care about these topics.They can call their state senator.

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They can get, they getorganized. They can not through protest,
but through like, you know, goto a, go to a school book, go to,
go to a town hall meeting. Imean, these are things that people
can do.
Yeah, I agree. And you'reright, it's on all sides because
I can tell you both from.Well, we all know that a lot of these

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individuals that get electedgo in a poor, poor person and come
out a millionaire.
And I mean, the fact that, Imean, it's, and you look at the trading
activity, I like Nancy Pelosispecifically. It's, it's, it's black
and white, textbook insidertrading. There's no other way to

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look at it.
Yeah, that's, and that'sacross the board.
That's across the board,people. Absolutely. And these people
are. Yeah, this is on both,both sides of the, of the line. These
people are immune toprosecution. These people are not
part of, they're not heldaccountable. This needs, somebody

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needs to, A leader needs tostep up. A Justice Department needs
to step up and put, push asidethe power structure and say, you
know what justice is, what's important.
Exactly.
People can't operate throughthis corrupt system. I don't care.
It doesn't matter what theresult will be. They had. Somebody
has to stand up. And by theway, if you, if you are indoctrinating

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these systems, you believethat you are this, you know that
you should orient your lifethis way. Why would you do anything
else you don't have, like,it's, you're, this is how you survive.
Right. So this is, this needsto happen. And again, it's, it's
only going to say one personto do something and then the thing

(01:08:44):
kind of really starts gettingchipped away.
Hopefully it starts moving itforward. Well, now we're running
out of time, so how cansomebody get. Fine, you got a wonderful
podcast. Everybody needs tocome listen to it. How can they get
in touch with you? How canthey find your podcast and more about

(01:09:04):
you?
Yeah, so you can find mypodcast I'm streaming across, you
know, all major platforms. TheEvolved podcast with Aaron Scott.
I have a book coming outcalled the Fifth Evolution. Hoping
to get it out again beginningto, to mid September, which I'm very

(01:09:25):
excited about. And yeah, I'vegot some links on my, on my website,
the AaronScott.com you canreach out to me. You can get in touch
with me. Uh, yeah, so that's,that's, that's kind of my shameless
promo there.
Well, I'll make sure thatthere's links in the show notes for
everybody so they can just hitthat and follow the link right directly

(01:09:46):
to you when the book comesout. I'll make sure there's a link
to it as well put into theshow notes so that everybody can
kind of reach out for that asin addition. Aaron, it's been a great
conversation. I know we, Icould keep talking, but we'll just
have to have.
For a while. We'll haveanother one. I'll have to come back.
I'll have to come back withsome, with some dry powder. Exactly.

(01:10:08):
We'll come back with anotherone. But in the meantime, thank you,
you know, thank you very muchfor being here. Do. This is one more
thing before you go. Any wordsof wisdom for anybody wanting to
kind of start their pathway to awakening?
Oh, you know, I would say justin general, you know, do things that,

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that push you a little bit.You know, do things that break habits,
do things that, you know, makeyou, that force you to reorient.
Try something that you haven'tdone before. You know, just, just
start touching that kind ofprogress periphery and see where
it takes you. Because if youdon't have curiosity, if you're not

(01:10:55):
willing to try something newthat might benefit you, you're just
going to be running the same,the same loops, the same habits,
and you're not going to getany different results. It's, it's,
it's worth the risk. That's,that's my, that's my two cents.
That's amazing words ofwisdom. Thank you very much for sharing
those, Aaron, once again.Thank you. I appreciate you very

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much. Appreciate what you'redoing to the world. Keep doing it.
We're going to keep sheddingthe, shedding the light and carrying
the flame here, Michael.
That, that's all we, that's,that's what we have to do, actually.
I have to believe, contributeto that point of it. So Aaron Scott
reminds us that freedom isn'tgiven, it's remembered. That wellness

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isn't bought, it's built. Andthat identity isn't inherited, it's
authored. If you've ever feltlike something's off in the world,
Maybe it's because you'remeant to change it. Because sometimes
the most radical truth beginswith just one more thing before you
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