January 11, 2024 • 52 mins
Unlock the truth behind the notorious Epstein list and the influential figures tiptoeing around it as we sift through the latest revelations. With Brother Pope lending his Southern wisdom, we're dissecting the fine line that separates the scandal's participants from mere acquaintances, offering a fresh take on the unexpected inclusion of celebrities like Chris Tucker and revered intellects such as Stephen Hawking. Names like Jay-Z, Beyoncé, and Bill Clinton swirl in the mix, and we're not shying away from questioning the veracity of the list and the striking absence of certain individuals from the initial release. Get ready for a no-holds-barred discussion that's as much about sifting through high society's secrets as it is about embracing the diverse commentaries that make sense of it all.
Venture with us into the shadowy terrain where non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) and criminal accountability intersect, sparking a debate as heated as a Southern barbecue in July. We're tearing apart the legal complexities of NDAs, drawing lessons from the publicized cases of R. Kelly and Bill Cosby, and probing whether legal gags can muzzle the cry for justice. As we weave through this legal labyrinth, Brother Pope adds his own firebrand analysis, helping us to pinpoint just how ironclad—or flimsy—these agreements can be when the law comes knocking. Join us for a conversation that promises to leave no stone unturned in the search for clarity amidst the murky waters of celebrity, legality, and the moral compass that guides us through both.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Welcome to the only one, my podcast, roger Rob,
brooklyn Dre J Rob is in thebuilding and we got a special
guest not really a guest man,it's brother's family man,
brother Pope.
Brother Pope was in thebuilding give us commentary on a
lot of these subjects wetouched tonight.
Good to have your brother.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How y'all doing You're gonna get out southern
perspective too much as we gotthis East Coast perspective man.
We need the grits and gravy ofthis thing.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So listen y'all, we're gonna jump into what we
got on the docket tonight.
First of all, epstein's listcame out.
So I tell you know Jay wasreally ready for this one man
and, as you know, epstein wasallegedly allegedly killed
himself in prison after beingconvicted of sex trafficking,
(01:23):
believes like pedophilia, or youknow, we all know the story,
but the thing was is thateverybody wanted to know who was
on this list that went toEpstein Island and so you know
I'm quite sure your brother'sseeing a list like.
The most notable one is that weall probably know we're looking
at who, chris Tucker, which youknow surprised me, but Chris
(01:45):
Tucker actually gave an excusefor being on that plane.
He said during the time he wasdoing this humanitarian work.
Yeah, that sound good.
Yeah, he said doing thishumanitarian work with Bill
Clinton.
We got Robert F Kennedy Junior,sarah Ferguson, which is a
Dutch, it's a York.
We got also.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, you missed a lot of names like Jay Z, beyonce,
bill Clinton, oprah Winfrey.
Well you know what?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
go ahead, black man.
Go ahead and go into it, man.
I'm, you know, reading the listthat we have here from the
paper.
But go ahead, man.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Alan Dershaw yeah, tom Hanks, pretty much anybody,
who's anybody has been overthere.
Yeah, michael Jackson, anybodywho's been over there has been
over there, kevin Space, youknow yeah.
So I mean, yeah, tom Hanks, allthe actors, all the actors and
actresses that recently diedfrom some unexplained causes.
(02:38):
They also was on the originallist.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, well, we'll talk about the original list,
man, because I know you weresaying that list was out three
years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
you said yeah, so about two thousand and nineteen.
Like right before the pandemic,the list came out and, like I
said, it was the names that wason.
There is all the names that youknow, from Jay Z, beyonce to
Bill Clinton and his wife.
(03:07):
What's her name?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Hillary, hillary, yeah, hillary.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hillary Hillary.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's true.
Yeah, hillary, that's true.
So now I'm going to come outwith this.
Dr List is like why are youkeeping these other names off
there?
We all know who was on there.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, they also on the list too.
They also say that is peoplewho were considered participants
and those that were likeaffiliates I believe the term
that they use.
So the participants are theones that actually engaged in
any act.
That Epstein and was it justletting Maxwell set up?
And then they have people whoare affiliates, who didn't
participate but might have beenon the plane or have been to the
(03:44):
island.
So, for instance, um theytalked about um was it Stephen
Hawkins?
Allegedly was a part of an orgy, but he's Stephen Hawkins.
I'm like I don't know how thatworks out, but yeah, what, what?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
what they said is that allegedly, uh, he likes to
look at um midgets.
Try to solve.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Little people.
It's ridiculous.
There's little people, you knowthey all had a or they wear
fetishes.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But he liked, he liked to look at midgets.
Try to solve equations, realhard equations, on high
blackboards.
They couldn't reach.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No, man stop, stop it .
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh, you didn't see that, oh, come on, come on, come
on, brother.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's what they say.
Yeah, they say well, listenlisten they slap in vogue.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They they slap in Velcro or midgets and throwing
them against walls and stufflike that.
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But they said that he that that turned out not to.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Hey, hey, say what you want, but the midgets, we
have a big onion on them.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh good.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You want.
They had the money on them.
You know what?
I know that to be true.
You just envision, you justenvision a midget right now.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, so red, red beads and rice Midget cuts,
there you go, that's the imagethat's going to be burned out
your head, man Stephen Hawkins,with Midgets, little people.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So little people.
Little people, I'm sure, comeon TV, go live.
I didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's, that's crazy, but now, let me, let me find
out you binge watching.
Let me find a new bingewatching little people.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But man, you gotta find out.
I'm gonna tell you that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now I'm gonna say another.
One of the names that was on it, it was going to the island was
Diddy.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oh, yeah, I believe that, I believe that this
particular point, I believe thatone.
Yeah, ok, so he's folks, he'sholding it up, he's showing us
the Stephen Hawkins article.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, man I guess.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I gotta go, look it up who is.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Stephen Hawkins?
Who is Stephen Hawkins?
Oh, Stephen.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Hawkins was the, the, the well renowned physicist it
was, you know.
I think it's like paraplegic orno.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He, he got a handicap , oh my.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
He likes the little feet.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
That's the only thing he can get.
He's like you know.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They didn't get the little feet lover.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, what the documents say is that Stephen
Hawkins, like like watchingundressed midgets, try to solve
hard equations on blackboardsthat were too high.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I got this up for everybody.
Man, I don't know, that's asick.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's a sick, that's sick.
Oh man, that's a sick dude, youknow they sitting there trying
to solve a math problem.
He's sitting there rubbing hisnipples.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He's not, he can't move it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Mentally, mentally, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You said that he was one of the names on there which
we know.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Eddie Bruce, bruce Willis, the ball hit one of his
wife, demi Moore.
Demi Moore, yeah Again.
Tom Hanks and all the otherones that you've seen died
recently.
They also named one list.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Then you said they had Kaiser, so they on there too
.
Kevin Spacey was on there.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What kind of Kevin Spacey was on there?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I believe that that was what he did.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Rapid.
Yeah the original list of that.
So, oh yeah, bring gal they owna Campbell.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, kevin Spacey did something.
Wow too, then he.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Raping on me.
That's why it's charisma Dosomething with you.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You slipping Mickey's and dudes drinks man.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Young dudes at.
That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Also Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you say a con?
Yeah, a car, the rapper Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
This is just a list of people that he Associated, or
this supposed to be a list ofpeople you had sex with some
type of way.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What that's the thing is, I.
It has to be determined whichones were Participants and the
actions and which one were justaffiliates of his.
So Did they, didn't find thatout.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Do you have checkmarked or something by
those?
That well no.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like they talk about Prince Andrew.
Prince Andrew was a participantbecause the victim spoke out
and said there were certainpeople who you know they would
have the girls do things with orto, and you know those would be
the ones.
I, for instance, just haveMichael Jackson.
She was asked to give MichaelJackson a massage, but I think
Michael Jackson from the storywas like not into it or
(09:39):
something that or that nature,like he didn't, he didn't do it.
So it was certain people whowere a part of this thing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And the words of P Diddy he wanted to party, but he
didn't want a party party.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
This is my thing, though, right being being, being
somebody, this, this, this,this real affluent and rich, and
all the wealthy and all that.
They, they all know what'sgoing on that island.
So you come there, you want toparticipate, because there's no
reason to come there if you not,if you're not down, you would
just stay home.
They, like they, got a lot ofother interests besides, besides
(10:30):
the midgets.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, but he's a white P Diddy.
So you know, I mean, when theycome to that party, they know
it's gonna be the bells andwhistles and everything like
that.
But again, like you said, Idon't believe everybody went
there to get it on.
You know, I mean, I think.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I do.
I don't see no other reason togo there.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I can't say it cuz I'm looking at this list
that you that you know.
You forward it over to me.
I'm like a lot of people Idon't know.
I don't want to say this onedid that or whatever for the
purpose of this show.
I don't get Tosh K, the pink isso, but yeah, I mean it's a lot
of, it's a lot of people onhere that you look at.
I got like Drew Barrymore andyou know I mean George Coney.
So I mean it depends on ifthese people like a lot of
(11:10):
people, I believe, probablyprobably participated.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
On other side of it.
I think other people went thereand was like I ain't no step in
this.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think before you got that invite to that Island,
you already you already beencleared All right.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So you think you had to be in a certain financial
range.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Sound the freedom type of deal with you got a
certain amount of money to getup on this day.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's a sick thing and I mean I knew, like when he
allegedly killed itself, youknow, by hanging himself in
prison, where guards, you know,to my son and that's that's what
that is, is that I neverbrought.
I'm surprised that the lady isstill alive, maxwell, you know,
I mean, oh yeah, yeah, I'msurprised, I'm not sure about it
(12:09):
.
No, for now, no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, the reason why she got it saying the word is
she's the one to get the list.
All right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, why not, you don't present anyway, or you in
prison?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Word is that she want to get a list up, so that's the
reason why she's still alive.
But you know, at the end of theday, can we do we really know
she is or not?
I?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Tell you what you know.
How waiting to give a list upis our Kelly.
He's already in prison.
I mean, this is the thing thatshould give up a listen.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Didn't our Kelly have people signed NDA, so ain't
that illegal for them to go backand say, hey, you did this when
somebody actually signed therights over not Because the
purpose of crime criminalinvestigation, I think the NDA
goes out the window.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes, a crime, so they can't hold, does it?
Yeah, it's a crime, it's acrime.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
You can't, you can't give it in.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You can't give it in the eight to a 13 year old.
I mean that you Know, but then.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But then that goes again with the Bill Cosby thing.
They said that he had, and hehad NDAs but he had grown people
.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He was dealing with grown people, though.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
But if a crime a crime is crime, right Well.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't think Bill Cosby actually out of you know
how he didn't have a rape charge.
I mean, technically speaking, Ibelieve that they was he never
been cuz he wasn't convicted ofa rape charge initially, the
first one that he did.
So he took an NDA or not.
They settled out of court onthat.
But I think the new thing,maybe I don't know the one that
he convicted of maybe they couldhave did something with that.
(13:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, but that's what they said.
They said that he was convictedof like sexual assault.
Well remember, based based uponthe testimony of that closed
NDA case.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I was a civil situation.
That's why they ended upgetting money.
They didn't actually.
They didn't actually, he wasn'tconvicted of it.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You know I mean, I thought, I thought they used
those, those transcripts orwhatever that was said and that
closed proceeding against himwhen they convicted him of
sexual assault.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Of the latest one.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, yeah, but the one that he went to prison for
well, this is what.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
This is what I just pulled up, guys.
So, generally speaking, no, notype of NDA can prohibit a
person from reporting the crime.
So of course I found that anNDA that attempts to borrow
someone from reporting the crimeis against public policy.
So, for example, an NDA thatgives you one million in
exchange for promise and to keepquiet about a murder, it's
clearly void, as it's againstpublic policy to cover up the
(14:34):
murder.
So it says.
But, however, the law is alittle less clear when a sexual
harassment and similar crimesdon't rise To the level of
criminal behavior.
So I guess it has to be to thepoint where you know.
I guess it would be.
I guess it would be Null andvoid if it's a rape, because
that is a criminal.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's just like uh, was it Michael?
Or Michael Irvin and them hadlike NDAs, like when he was um
Having sex with women andwhatever, whatever.
And you know, it's as long asit's consenting and it was a
consenting situation, I guessthe NDA stands up but if a
person reports it as a rape.
A brutal rape.
Different ball game yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
So yeah, he can give up the good, but but what would
he say is rape when you sign thepaper saying we'd better get it
all and everything is through,and then later, on no, go back,
go ahead, finish.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They understand, that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, because I mean, I don't know, because I say if,
even if you sign like you said,you sign the NDA and Come to
find out that you slept withthis girl and she was 13 or 14.
That's actually a crime.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean, you can't do that with kids anyway,
but yeah, yeah, but but butgrown people I guess, at the end
of the day, I mean, I guessthey can always go back to that
whole thing that you know, yeah,I signed off in it, but no
means no, or you know, I mean itcould dance with that thing.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know I mean yeah, but then.
But then you have situationslike josh would get me where
they noted the.
The it's a minor, but herparents is not, you know,
cooperating so but it's stillagainst the law, right?
So why isn't he being broughtup on charges?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That has to do with states, like I know, like in New
York.
I mean, I'm just using this asan example, probably far fetched
, but like in New York, ifsomebody committed crime against
you they got to show up tocourt against you.
Like in the state of Delawareif somebody does a crime against
you in Delaware, you know thestate will file against you.
But, in New York if the victimdon't show up to court and you
(16:33):
know you can beat the case, youknow?
I mean, I think maybe I'm atthe same thing.
Yeah, okay, well, as always youcan pay somebody not to show up
to court in New York.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I was threatening one of the two.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, threatening one of the two and they might not.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, man like as always, we just say like, if you
guys out here who's listeningto us, if you know attorneys or
know something about it, and westand to be corrected.
You know something.
That's kind of a murky area.
So you know, if you have anyinformation, just leave it in
our comment section, let us knowand we will happily correct the
issue.
All right, so listen.
The next thing on the docket wegot your man Kat Williams.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, Kat burning up the internet.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
You know tearing it down.
So speaking out against a lotof comedians stealing jokes.
You know rituals withinHollywood.
That's allowing people toadvance in their careers by
doing certain things that youknow I don't want to mention
here on this show.
What do y'all think about that?
Do you think Kat was right?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kat right.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I think, a lot of truth.
He had a lot of truth to whathe said, but then Kat got crazy
with this situation to like inthe same.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, I think Kat one of them guys, it tells the
truth, but like he exaggerates alittle in his truth.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He said in the same interview he read through.
What did he say?
He said he read 3,000 booksevery year for like six or seven
, some crazy garbage like that.
I was like all right, kat allright.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And then he started talking about he can run a three
, nine, 40,.
Yeah, get out there, kat.
Well, we won't believe that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
He want to knuckle up with Kevin Hartnett.
And then the same tune andchoked out by a kid yeah right,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So he got choked out by a kid, yeah, yeah.
And William got choked out by akid.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, this is a while ago.
Yeah, you can pull it out.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I put the video footage you playing football or
something like that with kids inthe street.
Man Got into a situation.
Kid choked him out.
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That guillotine on him.
I got to see that.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I got to see that one , yeah, yeah it's all over this
guy.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
He got the footage all over YouTube.
Man Put the hands in for you.
You know what I mean, but he'stalking as if he got them hands
like that.
He got a kid, choked you out ofit.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know if you remember, right before that
actually happened he was inPhilly and they beat him up on
stage.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, they beat him up on stage in Philly too, man,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, crimey Philly individual.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
All because of his mouth right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No, but yeah, he was doing something, he was doing
too much.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I believe it's a lot.
I believe probably 80% of whathe says is true and then the
rest of it is a little.
You know he gets a little bit.
Like he said, you don't dodrugs, and I'm like I watch in a
few situations man.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, well, you look like he was on drugs, right?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And Philly.
He looked like he was way offhis rocker.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, man, and I seen Benny Siggl try to explain it,
but I was like, come on, guys,he looked like you're on the
juice right now.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm.
And what did he consider drugsand not drugs?
He may be saying, well, weain't drugs, but cocaine and
heroin, are that's considereddrugs?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, yeah he's exactly said that, like he
smokes marijuana and cigarettes,you know he said the marijuana
helps him.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, I think he's doing more than that yeah he my
experience with drug addicts.
You know what I mean how wouldyou know, man?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Grover, grover and Grover.
My experience with drug addicts.
You know what I mean.
We all got experience withfamily members and we know the
difference between we smoking,you know.
You grooving off of somethingelse, you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Mm-hmm, because he was the funny thing.
A lot of them probably doingpowder, because powder gives
them that they wake them up.
You know what I'm saying.
They you know once upon a time,I know that was a big thing.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, his whole energy looks like he'd be doing
cocaine.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It looked like coke.
Yeah, I was gonna say Rightright.
It don't look like heroin orone of them lazy drugs or
something like that.
He looked like he was onsomething that's totally spicy.
He got him jipper and you knowwhatever.
See him in Philly.
Listen, you could say gangsta,whatever you know we done.
All had fights and weunderstand it.
When we understand it.
(20:51):
I think he was in Philly andhad some situation go down and
he was trying to go against thewhole team on stage in Philly in
a red hat.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, and they stomped him out.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They stomped him out, man.
You know what I mean.
You don't do that.
You know what I mean.
That said something you was onLike.
You know it's my toughest I'veever been in my life.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I said I'm not sliding on this one.
You should have thought betterthan that, just with hope.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, man, you already know what that was.
That was that Tony Montana.
He was on, that was that word.
Come on, man, the world isyours.
The world is yours.
He said bring it on.
He said, bring it, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, well, matter of fact, the way he explained.
It being said, he told the dudeonce that, being finished
performing, he was going to jumpon the particular guy had a
problem with.
Right after he performed hewent eight and ran up in the
crowd and went to the dude andthe rest was history, man and
they you know they were sillydude.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, they claim it was bad too.
It was bad.
You just see the cat permedjust moving back and forth All
the brains.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, you don't do that I mean.
But who can really take himserious anyway, when it comes to
fight?
I mean, looking at him, do you?
Do you fear that he can?
He can whip you.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I mean come on?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Not at all.
He.
Just he got the little sharpman you know.
Yeah, he got to run.
You know he got to provehimself.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Okay, I got to run around in the shower just to get
wet.
Man, he too small.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But given all that was said, though, I mean, in
terms of his interview, a lot oftime.
You know, do you think that alot of that stuff?
Because we know we talk amongstour circles and you know a lot
of that we say might have comeup in this, because he's not
saying anything reallycompletely different than what
Jaguar Wright was saying foryears, you know except that very
(22:43):
like comedy and all, but goahead, man.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I was gonna say he talked very effortless,
effortlessly about the thingsthat he said.
You know what I mean.
Like you know how, whensomebody's lying and they trying
to mix something up, whateverthe case may be, like you can
see, you can, I can't, I don'twant to say.
Everything he said is true, butit seems like it's a lot like
he was just talking.
Like you know, as a matter offact, you know, this is what
happened and this is whathappened and this is what
(23:07):
happened and you know I've seenhim do it on two different shows
.
He did it on the Willie D thingand he's saying it the same way
.
It's like an effortlessconversation.
The only thing he gets fullgaze on is when he started
talking stuff like I read 3000books and all that other goofy
garbage.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, this is my thing, right?
I ain't seen nobody come outand say he's lying.
It's not a comment, ain'tnobody come out and say he was
lying.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
A lot of comments I was made was something that was
real vague or whatever, you knownothing that was straight up
like in your face.
You know.
You figure these guys likeSteve Harvey and Kevin Hart,
these are guys that this man ispretty much challenging your
talent and challenging yourcareer on certain things and
nobody's really saying I seenwhat said, even said at the
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subject entertainer set up theGolden Globes the other day and
that was kind of like you know,real vague and everything like
that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Did you?
Did you see the video of Katdoing a joke and said doing a
joke?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, a lot of this stuff is it's true, yeah, like
what.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
and even even Bernie said a long time ago like yo,
don't do your jokes around.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I saw that video.
They steal it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah that's the funniest thing about that, you
know, listen, I agree witheverything you said, but he
don't want no smoke with such agood thing.
I was in the club with such agood entertainer what he was
wearing suits, but he about thatactually.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
All right.
So now that we on the topic, Igot you.
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
that is funny.
What you mean?
Said it, yeah, but you thinkI'll say it's funny.
And what you saying?
He's gangster.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, now I understand, gangster.
I said he'll put hands on you.
Yeah, I mean, he ain't gonna belike you know, I was in a very
bad club with such a goodentertainer and he was in there
very comfortable.
Okay, yeah, he was in therevery comfortable, man.
Yeah, I mean.
So he ain't, you know, likesomebody just gonna do whatever
you want to do to.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
But yeah, do you think it's funny?
Do you think that claim wascorrect?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know what A lot of the people that he's talking
about.
To be honest with you, man,when you watch these specials
you'd be like it's not reallyfunny.
I think we're giving credit toa lot of these people and you'd
be like like perfect.
I told J-Rob this before.
I love Kevin Hart's movies.
I don't care for his stand up.
I love his movies though.
He got great movies.
You know what I mean.
Such an entertainer.
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For years I've been saying likethe little stuff he does on TV
or whatever, like that great.
I never really was a big fan ofhis stand.
I think the best stand by we'veseen with Kevin.
But such an entertainer was theKings of Comedy joint, the
little 15 minutes he did duringthat I think he had.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
he got one that I like, but I don't really
remember the year of it.
I'm talking about such anentertainer.
He actually got one.
That's pretty funny.
As far as Kevin Hart, I mean,he's from Philly, so I rock with
him.
I think he's funny.
Oh man, come on.
I mean I'm gonna be honest, Ithink he's funny.
I think he's funny effortlessly.
You know what I mean?
Steve Harvey, no, I don't thinkSteve is that funny, but I
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think he's funny on family feud.
Yeah, for what they do, yeah,but not.
No, I know, stand up.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But I think that's what Cal is talking about.
He's talking about their standup, Like you know, like they're
not really that you know, ifanybody, like he said, with
Steve Harvey, somebody givingyou cue cards, you know what I
mean.
It's not hard to be successfulwhen you got you know a bunch of
writers and stuff like that.
So to compare yourself to CapWilliams, you know Cap Williams
is funny.
You know what I mean.
Mike Epps is funny.
He didn't really attack anybodythat you would consider like
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really good comedians.
He really didn't say nothingabout Mike Epps.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But he didn't say nothing about Mike Epps.
But what he said about KevinHart was just that he's a
gatekeeper.
He really said that.
He wasn't funny.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think he was trying to insinuate that he didn't put
in the work that most comediansdo.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, what he was saying is that what they were
trying to say about him comingup in the comedy clubs in LA was
false, because he didn'talready told his story how he
came up on the East Coast.
He didn't really say that hewasn't funny.
Now he was saying that Sethwasn't funny and Steve Harvey
wasn't funny and the other dudethat he was wearing a dress with
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the radio show Ricky Smiley.
He was saying that he wasn'tfunny.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He told Ricky Smiley a part man he just ripped into
Ricky Smiley's whole life.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I've seen Ricky Smiley on the internet crying
like come on, man.
That just proved everythinghe's saying Come on.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, I mean to his credit.
Ice Cube did clear it up andsay that.
I think he said that RickySmiley was offered the job
initially, but then I guess theycame up with some idea to do a
call for more comedians to dothe role that Cat Williams had.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So he.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Smiley was telling Seth the truth about it.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I don't think Ricky Smiley could have done it if he
did the job as Cat did.
Oh no, that's all that movedhim Right, so he just beat him
in the job.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Some people.
That role was written perfectlyfor Cat Williams, man Right.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well, like Cat said, he'd make the role.
He'd make the role to be voted.
That's passion, but that's whatI wanted to see earlier.
I wanted to see Chris Tuckerhere in New York man about a
month and a half ago and hisjokes that he gave was recycled
jokes.
He still talked about MichaelJackson, his friendship, you
know stuff that we've alreadyheard him talk about before and
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entertained the same thing forhim.
I've seen him three times andhis jokes are still the same
stuff that he talked aboutbefore in the past.
A few new jokes, but too manyof the old recycled jokes that
he told in the past Again man.
So what I'm saying is these guysare not hungry and thirsty, no
more.
They're just going off of theirname and reputation and making
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men off that Right.
But Cat Williams, his point ishe always bring new material.
You want to hear him having thesame jokes over and over, which
I can appreciate.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
That's what he says.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
He said I am a comedian, he's a comedian, you
know, the rest of these guys,man, like again, and the funny
thing about it is how manypeople that we see on the
internet that we like that arecomedians, man, and we're like,
oh, this guy is talented and whyis he not getting a break?
Man, Like you know, even thoughhe kind of went in on
Earthquake, wasn't it?
Was it Earthquake you went inon to?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But he was literally.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
But he said he was he's funny.
He didn't say like he's funny,he's like I've never seen him
not be funny.
You know what I mean.
And you start to think toyourself, like why aren't people
like you know a lot of theseother people getting an
opportunity, when we know thatthere's people that are a lot
more funny than them that are on?
They don't.
A lot of these people don'teven get Netflix specials and
stuff like that man.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It was phase on love.
He said that, yeah, phase onlove.
He said that you never seen, Inever, I never seen a phase on
love special.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
At all.
One thing he said that wasfunny was true.
He said uh, set yourentertainment on, even got a
special on 2B.
That's, that's too funny.
That's tough man, that's a fact.
That is a tough, that's a fact.
Everybody got a special on 2B.
You could get a special on 2B.
You know what I mean.
That's a fact.
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I said all these, all thoseyears and he don't have a
special on 2B.
That's crazy, man.
You know what I mean.
Like, when did you could justpull up and look at that says a
lot, man.
And again, like, like, like uhPope just said man, I've been
watching these brothers over theyears, man, on TV, man, and
they're not funny man, they'reliving off of what they've done
in the past.
(30:30):
Man, not not telling.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Like even Eddie Murphy, when he came out and did
coming to America too, man, Ijust knew they were going to be
be awesome man.
But he in the whole movie man,he's not thirsty man, he's not
hungry for for that position.
He's like I'm just here sayingthe line, I'm just, you know,
the effort is not there, likethey're not thirsty.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And I think a lot of them too now, especially you
know, I guess, because they gotmoney and stuff like that.
A lot of them are playing itsafe, like you know.
They can't say the things thatthey would have said way back
when.
And I think there's adifference between Dave
Chappelle and Kat Williams.
They really even my cubs likethey'll go in on somebody.
Like you know you're doingsomething stupid.
They're going to speak on it.
You know what I mean, eddie.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Murphy yeah, I got, I got a shot out of the comedian
I just wouldn't go see.
My name is Miss Pat.
She's up and coming.
She got a show, a couple ofspecials on Netflix.
She's amazing and amazing tosee you and, and, and, and, you
know, live and in color, isn'tit?
The jokes, these funnies, Idon't know what was it the big
sister?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Funny, as I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, and then you wonder why these people?
It used to be a time where,once these people, you know, did
what they did in theunderground, you know, like they
would be catapulted to the nextlevel.
A lot of these people are justsitting there.
So I kind of I don't know ifI'm going to say Kevin Hart is a
gatekeeper and all the otherstuff like that.
But I kind of kind of side withthem a little bit on that, like
why are these people moving up,man?
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They've been stuck in thesepositions for a long time.
Man, you know what's thecomedian, the white guy, gary
Owens.
I think he's funny.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, gary Owens, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And you would think by now he has the perfect
situation the white man marriedto a black woman.
That's a sitcom waiting tohappen.
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
He's writing his own story.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So you know why is he continuing to sit in this same
box.
You know what I mean.
So I think what he's sayingabout this gatekeeper thing
probably got some truth to it.
Because, we keep getting thesesame recycled shows.
They keep trying to forceCedric to entertain on the show
and it never gets better.
You know what I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, I also agree that what Cass said about Mark
Kerry, that hey, you were MrCooper, that's the Steve Harvey
show.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know what?
He doesn't realize that untilhe said it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It's the same purpose and I'm like yeah he's actually
right.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
He's actually right.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And it's kind of deep too when he says, like, when
they talk about how thesecomedians do things right, like
they don't really like, likethey're not still in the whole
concept but they just take bitsand pieces and they craft their
own thing around it.
You know what I mean.
Like you said, you never wouldhave thought.
You know, was it, mr Cooper andSteve?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Harvey.
Hey, hey, Mr Cooper.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
But when you, when you hear him say it, I'm like
all right, well, wow, he did thesame thing, the same kids.
You know the same situation,the same problematic portions.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, it's the same premise.
Only thing you change him frombeing a former basketball player
to a musician.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Did you see the joint ?
Well, they had the.
What's that thing about the 25anniversary of Def Jam?
Michelle Moore Korean, hisscreamin on.
Yeah, he was leaning on SteveHarvey in the picture.
Yeah, it was an about walkingon him.
Yeah, he was leaning on SteveHarvey in the picture.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
All right, so yo listen.
Speaking of gatekeepers, I knowI'm gonna kind of pivot off of
the topic for a second.
So when we had the brother on aRussell Andrews last week you
know, shout out to him as wellwe were discussing this whole
situation with Roger P Henson.
So, like after the show,everything said and done, me and
Dre talking about the situation, I'm like you know, if Roger P
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Henson and other actors andactresses of color are actually
going through the same thingthat she's going through, right,
why are we going to watch thecolor purple?
You know what I mean?
You would figure, like, ifyou're not getting paid and
she's making this publicly knownlike I didn't get paid for the
show and not like I should have,should we boycott the color
purple?
(34:25):
I?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
didn't watch it for that.
I didn't watch it for thatreason.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, I mean, could you figure like I use Dave
Chappelle, for instance, at thetime when he was going through
his issue with the Chappelleshow being sold off to like HBO
Max and all of that and hewasn't getting paid for it what
did he do?
He did a special way.
He told people if you want tosupport me, don't watch any of
it, don't watch it on Netflix,don't watch on HBO Max.
And then he got his problemresolved based on that.
(34:50):
You know what I mean.
So do you think that if youhave certain people that's kind
of holding back this money fromthese actors and actresses and
stuff, should you support theirwork?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, let me say this , though I thought this was kind
of crazy.
It's like I think it's wrong toopen them to that.
But I want to do people thinklike why did Taraji wait till
now to do it?
Like Hollywood has been doingthis to black actors and
actresses for so long, why nottake on the other real
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gatekeepers?
And I'm not saying Oprah didn'tdeserve it.
You know what I mean.
It seemed like we only bringthings to the forefront when we
battle in our own.
You know what I mean.
And I'm not saying I'm notgiving Oprah and them a pass.
I'm just saying what do youthink about that?
Like, why didn't she do this along time ago?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Why didn't anybody do it a long time ago?
Yeah, they did, but why wasn'tit put to the forefront like
that?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Because it makes Oprah look terrible, but it
makes the people who own theseother organizations like they
ain't doing it too.
They all doing it the same way.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I think what happens is when black actors work with
black producers and blackdirectors and some of my heads
of studio, they expect ourpeople's want to take care of us
and they you still end upgetting, you know, a messed up
deal.
I think I think that's that'smore or less what it's about,
because she even said, even withthe TV show that she was doing
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the day, they wasn't gettingpaid for that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
And I think Oprah probably thought this is regular
business.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Right, right, right, this is something that's already
in place, but we got toremember the black people that's
in power.
They just they just got intothe position, but we still knew
to the game.
You know, they barely let usstart being producers and main
actors and stuff.
So we still knew.
So we can't really expect to toget that and I don't, you know.
(36:47):
Let's just look at the biggerpicture.
They're going to point that shegot.
We all, as white people, gotthat same issue with our present
job Correct.
We all feel unappreciated,underpaid.
So it don't matter where youare actress, actor, no matter
what it is.
We as white people in Americais being shorthanded when it
comes to whatever professionthat we're in.
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We're not getting paid everyyear.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I believe she should have said what she said.
But I just was wondering, likelike that, you know, like man,
like maybe we could have choppedinto this a whole lot earlier.
You know what I mean and Idon't know.
That's just how I feel.
But again, I think she's right.
And when she said 110%, yeahyeah, yeah, yep, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So final topic, guys, before we close this one out.
Jonathan Mages Good morningAmerica.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Hello man, just every time I see that bro you know
I've watched that video amillion times of him running
away from that white woman man.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Sometimes I just pull it up and just laugh.
I mean no, it's wrong, he gotdone dirty 110%.
But you cannot deny that it'sthe most hilarious thing, man.
The way that dude is runningfrom there is like he saw a
ghost man.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, he really got his track shoes on.
He really was trying to getaway.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And that white woman was running after him.
Like you see, the white womanin Terminator 3.
Remember the white terminator.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
When she was running after him she was like, yeah,
I'm on you.
She was pumping arms,everything he's running for his
life, man.
It's hilarious man, but speakon it.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
He went on there and he told his side of the story
and basically, when asked youknow, if there was anything that
you could have done over againand I'm paraphrasing he was
saying like I would never put inthe car and I would have ran
away from.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
You should have never apologized for anything you did
in that situation.
No, no in the same token.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
They asked him was you know he was being charged
with?
You know what?
I get reckless, something of it.
So they asked him was he beingreckless?
And he said, yes, I wasn'tphysically reckless with it, but
I was reckless with her heart.
Do you think that that's like astatement that kind of shot
itself in the foot with that one, because he's trying to appeal
this case.
He's trying to appeal it.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
No, only the only thing he basically saying is the
reason why he thinks that, thereason why this happened is
because another chick texting,talking, you know, talking spicy
.
So he as a man, he like yo,like yeah, I was playing that
game and she got mad and youknow she went, he thinking to
itself, she went far leftbecause of that.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
But listen, man, if you're saying he was reckless
with our heart, that means thatthat was a series of things you
might have done to this.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's still don't give it, that's not a, that's
not a that don't give her aright to to to.
She got to.
She got arrested, yeah.
You got to rest if you did that, man, man, I just like saying
don't get me wrong, it's wrong.
You cheat and do all theseother things and nobody get to
write the violator car or ripyour tires off.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Like that Cool man, she got a rest.
If you came outside right nowand your drawers was all busted
up, you wouldn't say, oh, I wasreckless with her heart.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
If he if I put it like this, it was violent.
If it was the other way aroundand she cheated on him, or
whatever case may be, she threwhim in the car and did something
.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Oh, this would never make the news.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Never make them and never make the news man, he
wouldn't you know, and them kindof fight happen every day,
every so so.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
So why are these couples so so important, you
know?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
what I mean and why, and again, because, we let them
tell us Jonathan Majors is themost violated man in the
judiciary system I've ever seenin my life.
He's the most violated man.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
And on tape, he ran away on tape.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
He ran away from the woman.
He got a witness in the car.
The only witness in the vehiclewas the driver who told her
that the woman was beingaggressive.
Not after he so-called violatedand she was so-called in pain,
she went to a party and metthree individual strangers and
had the greatest night shewanted to have.
She broke into the man's houseman, and went in there and got
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butt-naked in his closet, somuch to the point that she was,
you know, alleviated to thepoint where she was out when the
police showed up to the houseyou know what I mean.
And then they arrested her.
He went to trial and this is thefirst time ever in the history
of the world that a man is goingto trial for a misdemeanor.
Not only did he go to trial fora misdemeanor, they chose and
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purposely took all of her whathappened that night out of the
trial.
So even the people that wasable to actually the jurors,
were able to sit there and watchno-transcript.
They just took all of theproblem out of the trial.
They made it just seem likeshe's just a White woman that
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got violated every year.
If they, if they're putting ina trial.
Hey, man, she broke in hishouse.
She was but nothing in thecloset, elibriated.
Yeah, I mean, that's the mostviolent.
This man got like man.
It was crazy.
That's the most violated man.
This is just the man.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
If you actually presented this case, it might be
a different outcome.
Brooklyn Dre attorney alone.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Was speaking to Westman.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Did you see the brother hop to hop to yes, sir,
yes, attack the guy's me thatthat don't happen.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Bro, clear that whole bench, like I don't know how
you jump from there.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
She was saying something to him to piss them
off for him to do that.
What does she say?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I actually actually saw, actually saw.
He was actually sitting theretelling her like he was just
kind of crazy after his action,after the whole thing.
He was telling her how he hadchanged his life and turned his
life around and you know how hewasn't doing drugs, no more.
Basically, he was doing his copa pleating, which is absolutely
nuts, because I understand howbrothers show up to try.
(43:24):
He showed up to try with anotorious BIG T-shirt on which
is crazy and Right after, rightafter that was all over, she was
just like yo, like your historyman, it's just like trash.
That's how she talking to likeI know we gotta hit you.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think I know choice for everything you saying and I
appreciate it, butunfortunately I can't let it go
and Then he went, he went, hewent Bananas after that.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I'm surprised it don't happen more.
At the end of the day, ifyou're a criminal and you in
that criminal element and youactually going ahead and being
why, why be civil now, like, goall the way with.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah happens more often than you think, brother,
you know.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I disagree.
That could take a five to tento 20 years.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
If you got 20 or 40 your life like what's the?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Personally, looking at that brother, I don't think
he would get 20 years.
You know, he seems like a pettythief.
I don't know it, just I'm justlooking at.
You know what he presented incourt, you know me.
He didn't look like, you know,like no drug dealer.
He didn't look like a killer,you know, and I could be
completely wrong.
I mean, I just think you know,if you show up there with a
notorious B I G shirt on you,just probably, just you know.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I think he was for assault.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Simple assault charge , a regular, regular robbery,
breaking in the ring.
You know, that's what he lookedlike.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, they threw me off when they brought me to that
lab time with this bit Massiveover his head and the nurse Even
looking off spook, Look atmaking a little slave or
something that got caught.
You know it has all buckedthere.
You know what I'm talking about.
(45:32):
You saw the video.
The video trials.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
They said that he jumped over that thing and the
type that jug so bad it wasanother brother that was
actually his trial was next andhe told his lawyer His lawyer
had to, you know, stop him fromgoing to help the judge.
He was like I couldn't watchhim attack that woman like that
and he's on trial next with thesame challenge.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Now let me tell you, man, the way that man came
across that bench man.
He was an athlete man.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
He came across the.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Of that bench crazy.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I mean, you know, because we all know that the
floor in the bench, thedifferential, yeah, yeah he
jumped over that joint like hecould be a long what they call
them joints to do the longjumpers or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, he did this thing.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, whatever you want to call him, a got busy.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Oh yeah, I got one question for you.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
What question.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You think in a deep, down deep and that judges mind.
You think that turned them on.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Oh, I heard judge mattress a one time.
He went to a judges inventionin Las Vegas and he said they
got wild in there.
Who knows?
You know, you know, justbecause the judges don't mean,
they don't, they ain't wild.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Somebody attacking you might be something different
, but I don't know the way.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
You never know.
People have wild fetishes younever know.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
You know, the side part about it is man is that
when he came over that thing man, I was just so impressed that
his feet didn't even touch theactual judges table.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
What if he took the gap with the star hit Whenever
in crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I don't know how much damage he did, but uh, he
definitely.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Rips him here.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
He caught everybody.
He caught everybody off.
God, he caught me off, and ifyou watch how cool he was and
his explanation about you knowhow he turned his life around.
I was like I didn't think thiswas gonna happen at all.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
They go to show you right there.
He didn't mean what he had,just.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
That's exactly what I took out of it.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
It was all for the game, so they say guilty.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Now to the regular brothers here.
Man, you know, when youfighting for your life, man, I
don't care what it is, man, comeon.
Man, don't show up to trialdate man with a notorious bi g
shirt on man, you just certainthings.
Man, you know, we don't even dothe right things, no more.
Man, you know, even on you know, back in the day, your uncles
and all of them told you man,you go on the court.
Man, it's short, right, man,they put on a shirt and a slack,
(48:37):
if nothing else.
Man, you know, maybe thatconversation would have wouldn't
hold like I'm not saying thatit would have.
Maybe it probably wouldn't yeah,depending on his rap sheet, but
uh, it was crazy.
Yeah, like no, you gotta dosome talk.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I don't know the nature of it, okay.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Is okay if him go to a job interview with a bi g
t-shirt on, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
People, man, you know these brothers nowadays.
Man, I had a family man but didthe same thing.
Man showed up facing uh, it wasa light two to four, but he
showed up the two to four hairlike all crazy, you know, not
even a suit, just a ridiculousman.
I mean, in this is two to four,something like man, you know,
(49:23):
and I'm not saying that two tofour is easy, but I'm like I
don't care when you go to court,man, you're facing some time,
man, sure right.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's sure.
Are you trying?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
to please insanity or show some insanity if I'm no,
he went there on some, you know,some goofy you know some goofy.
It's a whole whole story, I cantell you, with that man it.
You know he was blessed comingout of this situation because I
had an opportunity to speak tothe um, to the uh Prosecutor.
(49:54):
You know I mean and uh, youknow I can go into that, but, um
, I don't want to go into that,but he ended up making up out of
this situation.
But it was real Silly for youto show up to court like that
man facing, uh, you know, anopportunity to lose two to two
to four years out of your life.
It was crazy.
It is, it is.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
All right, brothers, I gotta get ready to wrap this
up, all right.
So hey, let's say, man, we gota few other things we could
cover, but I'm a whole life Foranother show, man.
The thing that you sent me Ja,was looking into it with the uh
tunnels and the synagogue.
Mm-hmm, I have to go back inthat sometime this week.
All right, brother, I'm gonnajoin the show Definitely.
(50:37):
Yeah, sir, yeah, I'm glad to behere, man.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Bring me back, bring me back.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
All right, brother, we learn anything from um
Jonathan majors is run, run.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Our crime was sleeping with white women.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
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Brother Pope was in thebuilding give us commentary on a
lot of these subjects wetouched tonight.
Good to have your brother.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
How y'all doing You're gonna get out southern
perspective too much as we gotthis East Coast perspective man.
We need the grits and gravy ofthis thing.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So listen y'all, we're gonna jump into what we
got on the docket tonight.
First of all, epstein's listcame out.
So I tell you know Jay wasreally ready for this one man
and, as you know, epstein wasallegedly allegedly killed
himself in prison after beingconvicted of sex trafficking,
(01:23):
believes like pedophilia, or youknow, we all know the story,
but the thing was is thateverybody wanted to know who was
on this list that went toEpstein Island and so you know
I'm quite sure your brother'sseeing a list like.
The most notable one is that weall probably know we're looking
at who, chris Tucker, which youknow surprised me, but Chris
(01:45):
Tucker actually gave an excusefor being on that plane.
He said during the time he wasdoing this humanitarian work.
Yeah, that sound good.
Yeah, he said doing thishumanitarian work with Bill
Clinton.
We got Robert F Kennedy Junior,sarah Ferguson, which is a
Dutch, it's a York.
We got also.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, you missed a lot of names like Jay Z, beyonce,
bill Clinton, oprah Winfrey.
Well you know what?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
go ahead, black man.
Go ahead and go into it, man.
I'm, you know, reading the listthat we have here from the
paper.
But go ahead, man.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Alan Dershaw yeah, tom Hanks, pretty much anybody,
who's anybody has been overthere.
Yeah, michael Jackson, anybodywho's been over there has been
over there, kevin Space, youknow yeah.
So I mean, yeah, tom Hanks, allthe actors, all the actors and
actresses that recently diedfrom some unexplained causes.
(02:38):
They also was on the originallist.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, well, we'll talk about the original list,
man, because I know you weresaying that list was out three
years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
you said yeah, so about two thousand and nineteen.
Like right before the pandemic,the list came out and, like I
said, it was the names that wason.
There is all the names that youknow, from Jay Z, beyonce to
Bill Clinton and his wife.
(03:07):
What's her name?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Hillary, hillary, yeah, hillary.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hillary Hillary.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's true.
Yeah, hillary, that's true.
So now I'm going to come outwith this.
Dr List is like why are youkeeping these other names off
there?
We all know who was on there.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, they also on the list too.
They also say that is peoplewho were considered participants
and those that were likeaffiliates I believe the term
that they use.
So the participants are theones that actually engaged in
any act.
That Epstein and was it justletting Maxwell set up?
And then they have people whoare affiliates, who didn't
participate but might have beenon the plane or have been to the
(03:44):
island.
So, for instance, um theytalked about um was it Stephen
Hawkins?
Allegedly was a part of an orgy, but he's Stephen Hawkins.
I'm like I don't know how thatworks out, but yeah, what, what?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
what they said is that allegedly, uh, he likes to
look at um midgets.
Try to solve.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Little people.
It's ridiculous.
There's little people, you knowthey all had a or they wear
fetishes.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But he liked, he liked to look at midgets.
Try to solve equations, realhard equations, on high
blackboards.
They couldn't reach.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
No, man stop, stop it .
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Stop it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh, you didn't see that, oh, come on, come on, come
on, brother.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That's what they say.
Yeah, they say well, listenlisten they slap in vogue.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They they slap in Velcro or midgets and throwing
them against walls and stufflike that.
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But they said that he that that turned out not to.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Hey, hey, say what you want, but the midgets, we
have a big onion on them.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh good.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You want.
They had the money on them.
You know what?
I know that to be true.
You just envision, you justenvision a midget right now.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, so red, red beads and rice Midget cuts,
there you go, that's the imagethat's going to be burned out
your head, man Stephen Hawkins,with Midgets, little people.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So little people.
Little people, I'm sure, comeon TV, go live.
I didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
That's, that's crazy, but now, let me, let me find
out you binge watching.
Let me find a new bingewatching little people.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
But man, you gotta find out.
I'm gonna tell you that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Now I'm gonna say another.
One of the names that was on it, it was going to the island was
Diddy.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oh, yeah, I believe that, I believe that this
particular point, I believe thatone.
Yeah, ok, so he's folks, he'sholding it up, he's showing us
the Stephen Hawkins article.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, man I guess.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I gotta go, look it up who is.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Stephen Hawkins?
Who is Stephen Hawkins?
Oh, Stephen.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Hawkins was the, the, the well renowned physicist it
was, you know.
I think it's like paraplegic orno.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He, he got a handicap , oh my.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
He likes the little feet.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
That's the only thing he can get.
He's like you know.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They didn't get the little feet lover.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, what the documents say is that Stephen
Hawkins, like like watchingundressed midgets, try to solve
hard equations on blackboardsthat were too high.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I got this up for everybody.
Man, I don't know, that's asick.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's a sick, that's sick.
Oh man, that's a sick dude, youknow they sitting there trying
to solve a math problem.
He's sitting there rubbing hisnipples.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He's not, he can't move it.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Mentally, mentally, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You said that he was one of the names on there which
we know.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Eddie Bruce, bruce Willis, the ball hit one of his
wife, demi Moore.
Demi Moore, yeah Again.
Tom Hanks and all the otherones that you've seen died
recently.
They also named one list.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Then you said they had Kaiser, so they on there too
.
Kevin Spacey was on there.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
What kind of Kevin Spacey was on there?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I believe that that was what he did.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Rapid.
Yeah the original list of that.
So, oh yeah, bring gal they owna Campbell.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, kevin Spacey did something.
Wow too, then he.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Raping on me.
That's why it's charisma Dosomething with you.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You slipping Mickey's and dudes drinks man.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Young dudes at.
That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Also Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did you say a con?
Yeah, a car, the rapper Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
This is just a list of people that he Associated, or
this supposed to be a list ofpeople you had sex with some
type of way.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
What that's the thing is, I.
It has to be determined whichones were Participants and the
actions and which one were justaffiliates of his.
So Did they, didn't find thatout.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Do you have checkmarked or something by
those?
That well no.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Like they talk about Prince Andrew.
Prince Andrew was a participantbecause the victim spoke out
and said there were certainpeople who you know they would
have the girls do things with orto, and you know those would be
the ones.
I, for instance, just haveMichael Jackson.
She was asked to give MichaelJackson a massage, but I think
Michael Jackson from the storywas like not into it or
(09:39):
something that or that nature,like he didn't, he didn't do it.
So it was certain people whowere a part of this thing.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And the words of P Diddy he wanted to party, but he
didn't want a party party.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
This is my thing, though, right being being, being
somebody, this, this, this,this real affluent and rich, and
all the wealthy and all that.
They, they all know what'sgoing on that island.
So you come there, you want toparticipate, because there's no
reason to come there if you not,if you're not down, you would
just stay home.
They, like they, got a lot ofother interests besides, besides
(10:30):
the midgets.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, but he's a white P Diddy.
So you know, I mean, when theycome to that party, they know
it's gonna be the bells andwhistles and everything like
that.
But again, like you said, Idon't believe everybody went
there to get it on.
You know, I mean, I think.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I do.
I don't see no other reason togo there.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I can't say it cuz I'm looking at this list
that you that you know.
You forward it over to me.
I'm like a lot of people Idon't know.
I don't want to say this onedid that or whatever for the
purpose of this show.
I don't get Tosh K, the pink isso, but yeah, I mean it's a lot
of, it's a lot of people onhere that you look at.
I got like Drew Barrymore andyou know I mean George Coney.
So I mean it depends on ifthese people like a lot of
(11:10):
people, I believe, probablyprobably participated.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
On other side of it.
I think other people went thereand was like I ain't no step in
this.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think before you got that invite to that Island,
you already you already beencleared All right.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So you think you had to be in a certain financial
range.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Sound the freedom type of deal with you got a
certain amount of money to getup on this day.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's a sick thing and I mean I knew, like when he
allegedly killed itself, youknow, by hanging himself in
prison, where guards, you know,to my son and that's that's what
that is, is that I neverbrought.
I'm surprised that the lady isstill alive, maxwell, you know,
I mean, oh yeah, yeah, I'msurprised, I'm not sure about it
(12:09):
.
No, for now, no, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, the reason why she got it saying the word is
she's the one to get the list.
All right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I mean, why not, you don't present anyway, or you in
prison?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Word is that she want to get a list up, so that's the
reason why she's still alive.
But you know, at the end of theday, can we do we really know
she is or not?
I?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Tell you what you know.
How waiting to give a list upis our Kelly.
He's already in prison.
I mean, this is the thing thatshould give up a listen.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Didn't our Kelly have people signed NDA, so ain't
that illegal for them to go backand say, hey, you did this when
somebody actually signed therights over not Because the
purpose of crime criminalinvestigation, I think the NDA
goes out the window.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yes, a crime, so they can't hold, does it?
Yeah, it's a crime, it's acrime.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
You can't, you can't give it in.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You can't give it in the eight to a 13 year old.
I mean that you Know, but then.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But then that goes again with the Bill Cosby thing.
They said that he had, and hehad NDAs but he had grown people
.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
He was dealing with grown people, though.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
But if a crime a crime is crime, right Well.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I don't think Bill Cosby actually out of you know
how he didn't have a rape charge.
I mean, technically speaking, Ibelieve that they was he never
been cuz he wasn't convicted ofa rape charge initially, the
first one that he did.
So he took an NDA or not.
They settled out of court onthat.
But I think the new thing,maybe I don't know the one that
he convicted of maybe they couldhave did something with that.
(13:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, but that's what they said.
They said that he was convictedof like sexual assault.
Well remember, based based uponthe testimony of that closed
NDA case.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I was a civil situation.
That's why they ended upgetting money.
They didn't actually.
They didn't actually, he wasn'tconvicted of it.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You know I mean, I thought, I thought they used
those, those transcripts orwhatever that was said and that
closed proceeding against himwhen they convicted him of
sexual assault.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Of the latest one.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, yeah, but the one that he went to prison for
well, this is what.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
This is what I just pulled up, guys.
So, generally speaking, no, notype of NDA can prohibit a
person from reporting the crime.
So of course I found that anNDA that attempts to borrow
someone from reporting the crimeis against public policy.
So, for example, an NDA thatgives you one million in
exchange for promise and to keepquiet about a murder, it's
clearly void, as it's againstpublic policy to cover up the
(14:34):
murder.
So it says.
But, however, the law is alittle less clear when a sexual
harassment and similar crimesdon't rise To the level of
criminal behavior.
So I guess it has to be to thepoint where you know.
I guess it would be.
I guess it would be Null andvoid if it's a rape, because
that is a criminal.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's just like uh, was it Michael?
Or Michael Irvin and them hadlike NDAs, like when he was um
Having sex with women andwhatever, whatever.
And you know, it's as long asit's consenting and it was a
consenting situation, I guessthe NDA stands up but if a
person reports it as a rape.
A brutal rape.
Different ball game yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
So yeah, he can give up the good, but but what would
he say is rape when you sign thepaper saying we'd better get it
all and everything is through,and then later, on no, go back,
go ahead, finish.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They understand, that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, because I mean, I don't know, because I say if,
even if you sign like you said,you sign the NDA and Come to
find out that you slept withthis girl and she was 13 or 14.
That's actually a crime.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, I mean, you can't do that with kids anyway,
but yeah, yeah, but but butgrown people I guess, at the end
of the day, I mean, I guessthey can always go back to that
whole thing that you know, yeah,I signed off in it, but no
means no, or you know, I mean itcould dance with that thing.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know I mean yeah, but then.
But then you have situationslike josh would get me where
they noted the.
The it's a minor, but herparents is not, you know,
cooperating so but it's stillagainst the law, right?
So why isn't he being broughtup on charges?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That has to do with states, like I know, like in New
York.
I mean, I'm just using this asan example, probably far fetched
, but like in New York, ifsomebody committed crime against
you they got to show up tocourt against you.
Like in the state of Delawareif somebody does a crime against
you in Delaware, you know thestate will file against you.
But, in New York if the victimdon't show up to court and you
(16:33):
know you can beat the case, youknow?
I mean, I think maybe I'm atthe same thing.
Yeah, okay, well, as always youcan pay somebody not to show up
to court in New York.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I was threatening one of the two.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, threatening one of the two and they might not.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, man like as always, we just say like, if you
guys out here who's listeningto us, if you know attorneys or
know something about it, and westand to be corrected.
You know something.
That's kind of a murky area.
So you know, if you have anyinformation, just leave it in
our comment section, let us knowand we will happily correct the
issue.
All right, so listen.
The next thing on the docket wegot your man Kat Williams.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, Kat burning up the internet.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
You know tearing it down.
So speaking out against a lotof comedians stealing jokes.
You know rituals withinHollywood.
That's allowing people toadvance in their careers by
doing certain things that youknow I don't want to mention
here on this show.
What do y'all think about that?
Do you think Kat was right?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kat right.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
I think, a lot of truth.
He had a lot of truth to whathe said, but then Kat got crazy
with this situation to like inthe same.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, I think Kat one of them guys, it tells the
truth, but like he exaggerates alittle in his truth.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
He said in the same interview he read through.
What did he say?
He said he read 3,000 booksevery year for like six or seven
, some crazy garbage like that.
I was like all right, kat allright.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And then he started talking about he can run a three
, nine, 40,.
Yeah, get out there, kat.
Well, we won't believe that.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
He want to knuckle up with Kevin Hartnett.
And then the same tune andchoked out by a kid yeah right,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So he got choked out by a kid, yeah, yeah.
And William got choked out by akid.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, this is a while ago.
Yeah, you can pull it out.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I put the video footage you playing football or
something like that with kids inthe street.
Man Got into a situation.
Kid choked him out.
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
That guillotine on him.
I got to see that.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
I got to see that one , yeah, yeah it's all over this
guy.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
He got the footage all over YouTube.
Man Put the hands in for you.
You know what I mean, but he'stalking as if he got them hands
like that.
He got a kid, choked you out ofit.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I don't know if you remember, right before that
actually happened he was inPhilly and they beat him up on
stage.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, they beat him up on stage in Philly too, man,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, crimey Philly individual.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
All because of his mouth right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
No, but yeah, he was doing something, he was doing
too much.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I believe it's a lot.
I believe probably 80% of whathe says is true and then the
rest of it is a little.
You know he gets a little bit.
Like he said, you don't dodrugs, and I'm like I watch in a
few situations man.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yeah, well, you look like he was on drugs, right?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And Philly.
He looked like he was way offhis rocker.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, man, and I seen Benny Siggl try to explain it,
but I was like, come on, guys,he looked like you're on the
juice right now.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm.
And what did he consider drugsand not drugs?
He may be saying, well, weain't drugs, but cocaine and
heroin, are that's considereddrugs?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Well, yeah he's exactly said that, like he
smokes marijuana and cigarettes,you know he said the marijuana
helps him.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, I think he's doing more than that yeah he my
experience with drug addicts.
You know what I mean how wouldyou know, man?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Grover, grover and Grover.
My experience with drug addicts.
You know what I mean.
We all got experience withfamily members and we know the
difference between we smoking,you know.
You grooving off of somethingelse, you know what.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Mm-hmm, because he was the funny thing.
A lot of them probably doingpowder, because powder gives
them that they wake them up.
You know what I'm saying.
They you know once upon a time,I know that was a big thing.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, his whole energy looks like he'd be doing
cocaine.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It looked like coke.
Yeah, I was gonna say Rightright.
It don't look like heroin orone of them lazy drugs or
something like that.
He looked like he was onsomething that's totally spicy.
He got him jipper and you knowwhatever.
See him in Philly.
Listen, you could say gangsta,whatever you know we done.
All had fights and weunderstand it.
When we understand it.
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I think he was in Philly andhad some situation go down and
he was trying to go against thewhole team on stage in Philly in
a red hat.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, and they stomped him out.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
They stomped him out, man.
You know what I mean.
You don't do that.
You know what I mean.
That said something you was onLike.
You know it's my toughest I'veever been in my life.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
I said I'm not sliding on this one.
You should have thought betterthan that, just with hope.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, man, you already know what that was.
That was that Tony Montana.
He was on, that was that word.
Come on, man, the world isyours.
The world is yours.
He said bring it on.
He said, bring it, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, well, matter of fact, the way he explained.
It being said, he told the dudeonce that, being finished
performing, he was going to jumpon the particular guy had a
problem with.
Right after he performed hewent eight and ran up in the
crowd and went to the dude andthe rest was history, man and
they you know they were sillydude.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, they claim it was bad too.
It was bad.
You just see the cat permedjust moving back and forth All
the brains.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, you don't do that I mean.
But who can really take himserious anyway, when it comes to
fight?
I mean, looking at him, do you?
Do you fear that he can?
He can whip you.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I mean come on?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Not at all.
He.
Just he got the little sharpman you know.
Yeah, he got to run.
You know he got to provehimself.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Okay, I got to run around in the shower just to get
wet.
Man, he too small.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
But given all that was said, though, I mean, in
terms of his interview, a lot oftime.
You know, do you think that alot of that stuff?
Because we know we talk amongstour circles and you know a lot
of that we say might have comeup in this, because he's not
saying anything reallycompletely different than what
Jaguar Wright was saying foryears, you know except that very
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like comedy and all, but goahead, man.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I was gonna say he talked very effortless,
effortlessly about the thingsthat he said.
You know what I mean.
Like you know how, whensomebody's lying and they trying
to mix something up, whateverthe case may be, like you can
see, you can, I can't, I don'twant to say.
Everything he said is true, butit seems like it's a lot like
he was just talking.
Like you know, as a matter offact, you know, this is what
happened and this is whathappened and this is what
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happened and you know I've seenhim do it on two different shows
.
He did it on the Willie D thingand he's saying it the same way
.
It's like an effortlessconversation.
The only thing he gets fullgaze on is when he started
talking stuff like I read 3000books and all that other goofy
garbage.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah, this is my thing, right?
I ain't seen nobody come outand say he's lying.
It's not a comment, ain'tnobody come out and say he was
lying.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
A lot of comments I was made was something that was
real vague or whatever, you knownothing that was straight up
like in your face.
You know.
You figure these guys likeSteve Harvey and Kevin Hart,
these are guys that this man ispretty much challenging your
talent and challenging yourcareer on certain things and
nobody's really saying I seenwhat said, even said at the
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subject entertainer set up theGolden Globes the other day and
that was kind of like you know,real vague and everything like
that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Did you?
Did you see the video of Katdoing a joke and said doing a
joke?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, a lot of this stuff is it's true, yeah, like
what.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
and even even Bernie said a long time ago like yo,
don't do your jokes around.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I saw that video.
They steal it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah that's the funniest thing about that, you
know, listen, I agree witheverything you said, but he
don't want no smoke with such agood thing.
I was in the club with such agood entertainer what he was
wearing suits, but he about thatactually.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
All right.
So now that we on the topic, Igot you.
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
that is funny.
What you mean?
Said it, yeah, but you thinkI'll say it's funny.
And what you saying?
He's gangster.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Oh, now I understand, gangster.
I said he'll put hands on you.
Yeah, I mean, he ain't gonna belike you know, I was in a very
bad club with such a goodentertainer and he was in there
very comfortable.
Okay, yeah, he was in therevery comfortable, man.
Yeah, I mean.
So he ain't, you know, likesomebody just gonna do whatever
you want to do to.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
But yeah, do you think it's funny?
Do you think that claim wascorrect?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You know what A lot of the people that he's talking
about.
To be honest with you, man,when you watch these specials
you'd be like it's not reallyfunny.
I think we're giving credit toa lot of these people and you'd
be like like perfect.
I told J-Rob this before.
I love Kevin Hart's movies.
I don't care for his stand up.
I love his movies though.
He got great movies.
You know what I mean.
Such an entertainer.
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For years I've been saying likethe little stuff he does on TV
or whatever, like that great.
I never really was a big fan ofhis stand.
I think the best stand by we'veseen with Kevin.
But such an entertainer was theKings of Comedy joint, the
little 15 minutes he did duringthat I think he had.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
he got one that I like, but I don't really
remember the year of it.
I'm talking about such anentertainer.
He actually got one.
That's pretty funny.
As far as Kevin Hart, I mean,he's from Philly, so I rock with
him.
I think he's funny.
Oh man, come on.
I mean I'm gonna be honest, Ithink he's funny.
I think he's funny effortlessly.
You know what I mean?
Steve Harvey, no, I don't thinkSteve is that funny, but I
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think he's funny on family feud.
Yeah, for what they do, yeah,but not.
No, I know, stand up.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But I think that's what Cal is talking about.
He's talking about their standup, Like you know, like they're
not really that you know, ifanybody, like he said, with
Steve Harvey, somebody givingyou cue cards, you know what I
mean.
It's not hard to be successfulwhen you got you know a bunch of
writers and stuff like that.
So to compare yourself to CapWilliams, you know Cap Williams
is funny.
You know what I mean.
Mike Epps is funny.
He didn't really attack anybodythat you would consider like
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really good comedians.
He really didn't say nothingabout Mike Epps.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
But he didn't say nothing about Mike Epps.
But what he said about KevinHart was just that he's a
gatekeeper.
He really said that.
He wasn't funny.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think he was trying to insinuate that he didn't put
in the work that most comediansdo.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, what he was saying is that what they were
trying to say about him comingup in the comedy clubs in LA was
false, because he didn'talready told his story how he
came up on the East Coast.
He didn't really say that hewasn't funny.
Now he was saying that Sethwasn't funny and Steve Harvey
wasn't funny and the other dudethat he was wearing a dress with
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the radio show Ricky Smiley.
He was saying that he wasn'tfunny.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He told Ricky Smiley a part man he just ripped into
Ricky Smiley's whole life.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I've seen Ricky Smiley on the internet crying
like come on, man.
That just proved everythinghe's saying Come on.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, I mean to his credit.
Ice Cube did clear it up andsay that.
I think he said that RickySmiley was offered the job
initially, but then I guess theycame up with some idea to do a
call for more comedians to dothe role that Cat Williams had.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
So he.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Smiley was telling Seth the truth about it.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I don't think Ricky Smiley could have done it if he
did the job as Cat did.
Oh no, that's all that movedhim Right, so he just beat him
in the job.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Some people.
That role was written perfectlyfor Cat Williams, man Right.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Well, like Cat said, he'd make the role.
He'd make the role to be voted.
That's passion, but that's whatI wanted to see earlier.
I wanted to see Chris Tuckerhere in New York man about a
month and a half ago and hisjokes that he gave was recycled
jokes.
He still talked about MichaelJackson, his friendship, you
know stuff that we've alreadyheard him talk about before and
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entertained the same thing forhim.
I've seen him three times andhis jokes are still the same
stuff that he talked aboutbefore in the past.
A few new jokes, but too manyof the old recycled jokes that
he told in the past Again man.
So what I'm saying is these guysare not hungry and thirsty, no
more.
They're just going off of theirname and reputation and making
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men off that Right.
But Cat Williams, his point ishe always bring new material.
You want to hear him having thesame jokes over and over, which
I can appreciate.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
That's what he says.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
He said I am a comedian, he's a comedian, you
know, the rest of these guys,man, like again, and the funny
thing about it is how manypeople that we see on the
internet that we like that arecomedians, man, and we're like,
oh, this guy is talented and whyis he not getting a break?
Man, Like you know, even thoughhe kind of went in on
Earthquake, wasn't it?
Was it Earthquake you went inon to?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
But he was literally.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
But he said he was he's funny.
He didn't say like he's funny,he's like I've never seen him
not be funny.
You know what I mean.
And you start to think toyourself, like why aren't people
like you know a lot of theseother people getting an
opportunity, when we know thatthere's people that are a lot
more funny than them that are on?
They don't.
A lot of these people don'teven get Netflix specials and
stuff like that man.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It was phase on love.
He said that, yeah, phase onlove.
He said that you never seen, Inever, I never seen a phase on
love special.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
At all.
One thing he said that wasfunny was true.
He said uh, set yourentertainment on, even got a
special on 2B.
That's, that's too funny.
That's tough man, that's a fact.
That is a tough, that's a fact.
Everybody got a special on 2B.
You could get a special on 2B.
You know what I mean.
That's a fact.
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I said all these, all thoseyears and he don't have a
special on 2B.
That's crazy, man.
You know what I mean.
Like, when did you could justpull up and look at that says a
lot, man.
And again, like, like, like uhPope just said man, I've been
watching these brothers over theyears, man, on TV, man, and
they're not funny man, they'reliving off of what they've done
in the past.
(30:30):
Man, not not telling.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Like even Eddie Murphy, when he came out and did
coming to America too, man, Ijust knew they were going to be
be awesome man.
But he in the whole movie man,he's not thirsty man, he's not
hungry for for that position.
He's like I'm just here sayingthe line, I'm just, you know,
the effort is not there, likethey're not thirsty.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
And I think a lot of them too now, especially you
know, I guess, because they gotmoney and stuff like that.
A lot of them are playing itsafe, like you know.
They can't say the things thatthey would have said way back
when.
And I think there's adifference between Dave
Chappelle and Kat Williams.
They really even my cubs likethey'll go in on somebody.
Like you know you're doingsomething stupid.
They're going to speak on it.
You know what I mean, eddie.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Murphy yeah, I got, I got a shot out of the comedian
I just wouldn't go see.
My name is Miss Pat.
She's up and coming.
She got a show, a couple ofspecials on Netflix.
She's amazing and amazing tosee you and, and, and, and, you
know, live and in color, isn'tit?
The jokes, these funnies, Idon't know what was it the big
sister?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Funny, as I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, and then you wonder why these people?
It used to be a time where,once these people, you know, did
what they did in theunderground, you know, like they
would be catapulted to the nextlevel.
A lot of these people are justsitting there.
So I kind of I don't know ifI'm going to say Kevin Hart is a
gatekeeper and all the otherstuff like that.
But I kind of kind of side withthem a little bit on that, like
why are these people moving up,man?
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They've been stuck in thesepositions for a long time.
Man, you know what's thecomedian, the white guy, gary
Owens.
I think he's funny.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, gary Owens, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And you would think by now he has the perfect
situation the white man marriedto a black woman.
That's a sitcom waiting tohappen.
You know what I mean.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
He's writing his own story.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
So you know why is he continuing to sit in this same
box.
You know what I mean.
So I think what he's sayingabout this gatekeeper thing
probably got some truth to it.
Because, we keep getting thesesame recycled shows.
They keep trying to forceCedric to entertain on the show
and it never gets better.
You know what I mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Well, I also agree that what Cass said about Mark
Kerry, that hey, you were MrCooper, that's the Steve Harvey
show.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You know what?
He doesn't realize that untilhe said it.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It's the same purpose and I'm like yeah he's actually
right.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
He's actually right.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And it's kind of deep too when he says, like, when
they talk about how thesecomedians do things right, like
they don't really like, likethey're not still in the whole
concept but they just take bitsand pieces and they craft their
own thing around it.
You know what I mean.
Like you said, you never wouldhave thought.
You know, was it, mr Cooper andSteve?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Harvey.
Hey, hey, Mr Cooper.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
But when you, when you hear him say it, I'm like
all right, well, wow, he did thesame thing, the same kids.
You know the same situation,the same problematic portions.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, it's the same premise.
Only thing you change him frombeing a former basketball player
to a musician.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Did you see the joint ?
Well, they had the.
What's that thing about the 25anniversary of Def Jam?
Michelle Moore Korean, hisscreamin on.
Yeah, he was leaning on SteveHarvey in the picture.
Yeah, it was an about walkingon him.
Yeah, he was leaning on SteveHarvey in the picture.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
All right, so yo listen.
Speaking of gatekeepers, I knowI'm gonna kind of pivot off of
the topic for a second.
So when we had the brother on aRussell Andrews last week you
know, shout out to him as wellwe were discussing this whole
situation with Roger P Henson.
So, like after the show,everything said and done, me and
Dre talking about the situation, I'm like you know, if Roger P
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Henson and other actors andactresses of color are actually
going through the same thingthat she's going through, right,
why are we going to watch thecolor purple?
You know what I mean?
You would figure, like, ifyou're not getting paid and
she's making this publicly knownlike I didn't get paid for the
show and not like I should have,should we boycott the color
purple?
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I?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
didn't watch it for that.
I didn't watch it for thatreason.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, I mean, could you figure like I use Dave
Chappelle, for instance, at thetime when he was going through
his issue with the Chappelleshow being sold off to like HBO
Max and all of that and hewasn't getting paid for it what
did he do?
He did a special way.
He told people if you want tosupport me, don't watch any of
it, don't watch it on Netflix,don't watch on HBO Max.
And then he got his problemresolved based on that.
(34:50):
You know what I mean.
So do you think that if youhave certain people that's kind
of holding back this money fromthese actors and actresses and
stuff, should you support theirwork?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, let me say this , though I thought this was kind
of crazy.
It's like I think it's wrong toopen them to that.
But I want to do people thinklike why did Taraji wait till
now to do it?
Like Hollywood has been doingthis to black actors and
actresses for so long, why nottake on the other real
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gatekeepers?
And I'm not saying Oprah didn'tdeserve it.
You know what I mean.
It seemed like we only bringthings to the forefront when we
battle in our own.
You know what I mean.
And I'm not saying I'm notgiving Oprah and them a pass.
I'm just saying what do youthink about that?
Like, why didn't she do this along time ago?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Why didn't anybody do it a long time ago?
Yeah, they did, but why wasn'tit put to the forefront like
that?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Because it makes Oprah look terrible, but it
makes the people who own theseother organizations like they
ain't doing it too.
They all doing it the same way.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I think what happens is when black actors work with
black producers and blackdirectors and some of my heads
of studio, they expect ourpeople's want to take care of us
and they you still end upgetting, you know, a messed up
deal.
I think I think that's that'smore or less what it's about,
because she even said, even withthe TV show that she was doing
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the day, they wasn't gettingpaid for that.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
And I think Oprah probably thought this is regular
business.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Right, right, right, this is something that's already
in place, but we got toremember the black people that's
in power.
They just they just got intothe position, but we still knew
to the game.
You know, they barely let usstart being producers and main
actors and stuff.
So we still knew.
So we can't really expect to toget that and I don't, you know.
(36:47):
Let's just look at the biggerpicture.
They're going to point that shegot.
We all, as white people, gotthat same issue with our present
job Correct.
We all feel unappreciated,underpaid.
So it don't matter where youare actress, actor, no matter
what it is.
We as white people in Americais being shorthanded when it
comes to whatever professionthat we're in.
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We're not getting paid everyyear.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
I believe she should have said what she said.
But I just was wondering, likelike that, you know, like man,
like maybe we could have choppedinto this a whole lot earlier.
You know what I mean and Idon't know.
That's just how I feel.
But again, I think she's right.
And when she said 110%, yeahyeah, yeah, yep, all right.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
So final topic, guys, before we close this one out.
Jonathan Mages Good morningAmerica.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Hello man, just every time I see that bro you know
I've watched that video amillion times of him running
away from that white woman man.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Sometimes I just pull it up and just laugh.
I mean no, it's wrong, he gotdone dirty 110%.
But you cannot deny that it'sthe most hilarious thing, man.
The way that dude is runningfrom there is like he saw a
ghost man.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, he really got his track shoes on.
He really was trying to getaway.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And that white woman was running after him.
Like you see, the white womanin Terminator 3.
Remember the white terminator.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
When she was running after him she was like, yeah,
I'm on you.
She was pumping arms,everything he's running for his
life, man.
It's hilarious man, but speakon it.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
He went on there and he told his side of the story
and basically, when asked youknow, if there was anything that
you could have done over againand I'm paraphrasing he was
saying like I would never put inthe car and I would have ran
away from.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
You should have never apologized for anything you did
in that situation.
No, no in the same token.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
They asked him was you know he was being charged
with?
You know what?
I get reckless, something of it.
So they asked him was he beingreckless?
And he said, yes, I wasn'tphysically reckless with it, but
I was reckless with her heart.
Do you think that that's like astatement that kind of shot
itself in the foot with that one, because he's trying to appeal
this case.
He's trying to appeal it.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
No, only the only thing he basically saying is the
reason why he thinks that, thereason why this happened is
because another chick texting,talking, you know, talking spicy
.
So he as a man, he like yo,like yeah, I was playing that
game and she got mad and youknow she went, he thinking to
itself, she went far leftbecause of that.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
But listen, man, if you're saying he was reckless
with our heart, that means thatthat was a series of things you
might have done to this.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's still don't give it, that's not a, that's
not a that don't give her aright to to to.
She got to.
She got arrested, yeah.
You got to rest if you did that, man, man, I just like saying
don't get me wrong, it's wrong.
You cheat and do all theseother things and nobody get to
write the violator car or ripyour tires off.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Like that Cool man, she got a rest.
If you came outside right nowand your drawers was all busted
up, you wouldn't say, oh, I wasreckless with her heart.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
If he if I put it like this, it was violent.
If it was the other way aroundand she cheated on him, or
whatever case may be, she threwhim in the car and did something
.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Oh, this would never make the news.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Never make them and never make the news man, he
wouldn't you know, and them kindof fight happen every day,
every so so.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
So why are these couples so so important, you
know?
Speaker 3 (40:22):
what I mean and why, and again, because, we let them
tell us Jonathan Majors is themost violated man in the
judiciary system I've ever seenin my life.
He's the most violated man.
Let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
And on tape, he ran away on tape.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
He ran away from the woman.
He got a witness in the car.
The only witness in the vehiclewas the driver who told her
that the woman was beingaggressive.
Not after he so-called violatedand she was so-called in pain,
she went to a party and metthree individual strangers and
had the greatest night shewanted to have.
She broke into the man's houseman, and went in there and got
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butt-naked in his closet, somuch to the point that she was,
you know, alleviated to thepoint where she was out when the
police showed up to the houseyou know what I mean.
And then they arrested her.
He went to trial and this is thefirst time ever in the history
of the world that a man is goingto trial for a misdemeanor.
Not only did he go to trial fora misdemeanor, they chose and
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purposely took all of her whathappened that night out of the
trial.
So even the people that wasable to actually the jurors,
were able to sit there and watchno-transcript.
They just took all of theproblem out of the trial.
They made it just seem likeshe's just a White woman that
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got violated every year.
If they, if they're putting ina trial.
Hey, man, she broke in hishouse.
She was but nothing in thecloset, elibriated.
Yeah, I mean, that's the mostviolent.
This man got like man.
It was crazy.
That's the most violated man.
This is just the man.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
If you actually presented this case, it might be
a different outcome.
Brooklyn Dre attorney alone.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Was speaking to Westman.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Did you see the brother hop to hop to yes, sir,
yes, attack the guy's me thatthat don't happen.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Bro, clear that whole bench, like I don't know how
you jump from there.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
She was saying something to him to piss them
off for him to do that.
What does she say?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I actually actually saw, actually saw.
He was actually sitting theretelling her like he was just
kind of crazy after his action,after the whole thing.
He was telling her how he hadchanged his life and turned his
life around and you know how hewasn't doing drugs, no more.
Basically, he was doing his copa pleating, which is absolutely
nuts, because I understand howbrothers show up to try.
(43:24):
He showed up to try with anotorious BIG T-shirt on which
is crazy and Right after, rightafter that was all over, she was
just like yo, like your historyman, it's just like trash.
That's how she talking to likeI know we gotta hit you.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think I know choice for everything you saying and I
appreciate it, butunfortunately I can't let it go
and Then he went, he went, hewent Bananas after that.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
I'm surprised it don't happen more.
At the end of the day, ifyou're a criminal and you in
that criminal element and youactually going ahead and being
why, why be civil now, like, goall the way with.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah happens more often than you think, brother,
you know.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
I disagree.
That could take a five to tento 20 years.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
If you got 20 or 40 your life like what's the?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Personally, looking at that brother, I don't think
he would get 20 years.
You know, he seems like a pettythief.
I don't know it, just I'm justlooking at.
You know what he presented incourt, you know me.
He didn't look like, you know,like no drug dealer.
He didn't look like a killer,you know, and I could be
completely wrong.
I mean, I just think you know,if you show up there with a
notorious B I G shirt on you,just probably, just you know.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I think he was for assault.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Simple assault charge , a regular, regular robbery,
breaking in the ring.
You know, that's what he lookedlike.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Yeah, they threw me off when they brought me to that
lab time with this bit Massiveover his head and the nurse Even
looking off spook, Look atmaking a little slave or
something that got caught.
You know it has all buckedthere.
You know what I'm talking about.
(45:32):
You saw the video.
The video trials.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
They said that he jumped over that thing and the
type that jug so bad it wasanother brother that was
actually his trial was next andhe told his lawyer His lawyer
had to, you know, stop him fromgoing to help the judge.
He was like I couldn't watchhim attack that woman like that
and he's on trial next with thesame challenge.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Now let me tell you, man, the way that man came
across that bench man.
He was an athlete man.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
He came across the.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Of that bench crazy.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I mean, you know, because we all know that the
floor in the bench, thedifferential, yeah, yeah he
jumped over that joint like hecould be a long what they call
them joints to do the longjumpers or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, he did this thing.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Yeah, whatever you want to call him, a got busy.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Oh yeah, I got one question for you.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
What question.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You think in a deep, down deep and that judges mind.
You think that turned them on.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Oh, I heard judge mattress a one time.
He went to a judges inventionin Las Vegas and he said they
got wild in there.
Who knows?
You know, you know, justbecause the judges don't mean,
they don't, they ain't wild.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Somebody attacking you might be something different
, but I don't know the way.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
You never know.
People have wild fetishes younever know.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
You know, the side part about it is man is that
when he came over that thing man, I was just so impressed that
his feet didn't even touch theactual judges table.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
What if he took the gap with the star hit Whenever
in crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
I don't know how much damage he did, but uh, he
definitely.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Rips him here.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
He caught everybody.
He caught everybody off.
God, he caught me off, and ifyou watch how cool he was and
his explanation about you knowhow he turned his life around.
I was like I didn't think thiswas gonna happen at all.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
They go to show you right there.
He didn't mean what he had,just.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
That's exactly what I took out of it.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
It was all for the game, so they say guilty.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Now to the regular brothers here.
Man, you know, when youfighting for your life, man, I
don't care what it is, man, comeon.
Man, don't show up to trialdate man with a notorious bi g
shirt on man, you just certainthings.
Man, you know, we don't even dothe right things, no more.
Man, you know, even on you know, back in the day, your uncles
and all of them told you man,you go on the court.
Man, it's short, right, man,they put on a shirt and a slack,
(48:37):
if nothing else.
Man, you know, maybe thatconversation would have wouldn't
hold like I'm not saying thatit would have.
Maybe it probably wouldn't yeah,depending on his rap sheet, but
uh, it was crazy.
Yeah, like no, you gotta dosome talk.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
I don't know the nature of it, okay.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Is okay if him go to a job interview with a bi g
t-shirt on, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
People, man, you know these brothers nowadays.
Man, I had a family man but didthe same thing.
Man showed up facing uh, it wasa light two to four, but he
showed up the two to four hairlike all crazy, you know, not
even a suit, just a ridiculousman.
I mean, in this is two to four,something like man, you know,
(49:23):
and I'm not saying that two tofour is easy, but I'm like I
don't care when you go to court,man, you're facing some time,
man, sure right.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's sure.
Are you trying?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
to please insanity or show some insanity if I'm no,
he went there on some, you know,some goofy you know some goofy.
It's a whole whole story, I cantell you, with that man it.
You know he was blessed comingout of this situation because I
had an opportunity to speak tothe um, to the uh Prosecutor.
(49:54):
You know I mean and uh, youknow I can go into that, but, um
, I don't want to go into that,but he ended up making up out of
this situation.
But it was real Silly for youto show up to court like that
man facing, uh, you know, anopportunity to lose two to two
to four years out of your life.
It was crazy.
It is, it is.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
All right, brothers, I gotta get ready to wrap this
up, all right.
So hey, let's say, man, we gota few other things we could
cover, but I'm a whole life Foranother show, man.
The thing that you sent me Ja,was looking into it with the uh
tunnels and the synagogue.
Mm-hmm, I have to go back inthat sometime this week.
All right, brother, I'm gonnajoin the show Definitely.
(50:37):
Yeah, sir, yeah, I'm glad to behere, man.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
Bring me back, bring me back.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
All right, brother, we learn anything from um
Jonathan majors is run, run.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Our crime was sleeping with white women.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Well Welcome back to you know, I mean, you all have
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and listen to others, even adultand ignorant, because they too
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