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Phil explains how the Relax Saunas uses 100% far infrared ray (FIR) to penetrate deep into the body, vibrating water molecules at the same frequency as human energy. The result? Enhanced detoxification, improved circulation, reduced pain and stress, glowing skin, and even mental health benefits—all in as little as 5–7 minutes.
Beyond the health perks, the Relax Saunas is portable, affordable, and practical, heating up in just 5 minutes and packing into a travel bag. At age 77, Phil calls it the “pinnacle” of all the wellness products he’s promoted since the 1970s—and Lindsay shares her own experience using it to relieve rheumatoid arthritis and lupus symptoms.
From detox and beauty to grounding and relaxation, this conversation reveals why thousands of people swear by the Relax Saunas as a daily health tool.
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