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We're gonna do some like crazy easter killer bunny stories or something i don't
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It's like over a minute. Okay.
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So, it's been like, what, three months? Yep. Since there was an episode? Yep.
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Slackers. Parallel Universe had every episode come out on time.
We're up to episode like 500. We are. Parallel Universe. We never miss one there.
We never miss one. It's every week. Yep.
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Yeah well you know we don't do it for the fans i wonder why we should though
like i said we have one we do at least at least one yeah Yeah.
Dedicated fan. Shout out to the fans.
Fans. Maybe, maybe more than one. So we're back. Yep. Back in the saddle.
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We are. Is that what they say? I guess so.
Back in the saddle, riding some horse into the Parababel sunset.
Sitting at a, I don't know, table tipping. This is so good.
We're already so, so off topic and it's only been the first 30 seconds of the show.
That's what we do. Yeah. So when we had to get back into it,
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it was like, well, can we pick a topic that we can just talk about so we don't
have to make it hard on ourselves?
Yeah, because we don't want to do research. What fun is that? I know.
But then I was like, what are we going to talk about for this long?
Because. This will be like a 10-minute episode. We have not table-tipped in
a long time. We haven't. Yeah, we haven't been anywhere. Right.
Table-tip. But at one point, we were going to make tour shirts for all the table-tipping
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tour we went on. We were. That's like a tongue twister.
Table tipping tour? I forgot that we were going to do that. Yes,
because we had table tipped in so many places. Different states.
Different countries yeah like
some famous places yeah you know all the way to like non-famous places.
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Like the basement of a library yeah or somebody's
abandoned house that they had moved out oh yeah i remember that
that's even less famous yeah like no one
knows about it library was cool though it was so i
guess we're gonna recount some of our more favorite table tipping
stories and of course i'm gonna make you talk about how you thought it was crap
the first couple times you did it because i feel like we have to discuss that
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but table tipping also known as
table turning table tilting table moving table
tapping is really a type of seance they
hate this yeah we were just talking about ghostbusters sorry
yeah squirrel brain but it's
a type of seance or a type of people you know
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also say it's like physical mediumship but you
don't have to be a medium him to do it no no he'd
be a normal everyday regular person so i could
table tip right now yeah you could this table right here
we could if we really wanted to okay well there's a
chupacabra under there so i don't know if it's a good idea probably scare him
there's probably there's not a lot of space here either and we've been known
to have to run after tables yeah which is so crazy now that i'm saying it but
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it was like such an everyday occurrence i'm too old and out of shape to do something
like that now it was like pretty tiring yeah especially when it was like three in in the morning. Yeah.
So table tipping has been around for a long, long, long, long time,
but it didn't really become popular until the Fox sisters out in Hydesville,
New York started table tipping and doing it in public as part of their demonstration of their abilities.
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Yeah. You just did the air quotes. I said that. So the Fox sisters are famous
for the cottage that they grew up in.
There's, you know, the story about the salesman that came and maybe disappeared
and was buried in the walls or whether it was the devil that came and visited
them or whatever you want to say.
There was a couple different theories about who they were talking to. Themselves.
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Probably the most famous one is, you know, the one when they were kind of just
starting to hear these noises.
And as they heard the noises, they started to communicate with whatever it was.
And they did that by rapping and tapping. So that's kind of how,
you know, their whole popularity started.
And, you know, I think we have to at least credit the Fox sisters with the rise
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of the spiritualist movement in this country.
And then also, you know, bringing that over to Europe and having the spiritualist
movement rise up there, too.
And we're talking about 1850s. You know, that's the big thing to remember in
this whole discussion, too.
So it was quite a while ago. Right. This is not like modern day.
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No. You know, technique. Yeah. But table tipping was like a Victorian thing that happened.
And then it kind of went away and went out of fashion or style.
And then it became popular again in, I want to say, like, maybe the 2000s, early 2000s.
And. Like with the boom of. Ghost hunting. Ghost hunting. Yep. Pretty much.
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And, you know, I mean, there's like anything. There's a right way and a wrong way to do it.
And it can be dangerous. You know, it's just like using a Ouija board.
You don't know what you're necessarily going to get, who you're talking to.
People have been injured by tables flipping and landing on their feet,
things like that. Yeah, I could see that.
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So, you know, I mean, it's not something to take lightly.
I don't know how we were never injured by a table. I don't know either,
but we came close a couple times.
Yeah. Whether it's real or not or whatever one wants to think about it.
Yep. do not pin yeah oh my god i forgot about all these things it's gonna be
so triggering for you this whole episode yep this whole episode is gonna be
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so triggering okay break yep break.
So, you know, the main thing is that you need a table of some sort.
We've done this with big, huge wooden tables at libraries. We've done it with
end tables. We've done it with a glass top table.
I don't know if you remember that. I do. That was pretty nerve wracking.
So, you know, you need some sort of table.
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The old seance Victorian tables were usually like the three-legged tables or something like that.
But it doesn't have to be. You just need a table. I remember we were always
looking for a three-legged table, and I don't think we ever found one.
I don't think so either. Sadly. I don't really think they make them.
I know we had, like, end tables that had just, like, one, like,
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the one leg in the middle of it, you know, with, like, the feet on the bottom.
Yeah. We used tables like that.
But lots of different kinds of tables. I always found the heavier ones the most interesting.
Yeah. Because, like, how are you going to move that? Right. It's hard. Yeah.
So the main thing to do is that you find a table, you find a place you want to do it in.
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A lot of times people do it in haunted locations or places that they know have
high spiritual, you know, energy.
And everybody sits at the table and, you know, don't get mad that I'm not going
to use they, them pronouns, but I feel like we always have just said boy,
girl, boy, girl when we've sat at the table.
This was a different time when we were at the table. Yeah, you know,
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I mean, they, them would have been welcome too.
Yeah, we don't care. No, we absolutely do not care. But just for the sake of talking about it.
So we would sit and then everyone would just put their hands on the table and
kind of spread your fingers out.
And somebody would lead the session and kind of just talk everybody through
like a meditation, clear your
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mind kind of thing, and then start asking questions and see what happens.
Sounds so simple. It does. It was. It was.
But what we saw the tables do was not simple and still kind of,
I think, defines a little bit of logical explanation in some circumstances.
Yeah. Like there are few things that still nag me about all of our ghost hunting
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days that I couldn't explain fully because I'm like, I got to.
There's got to be something.
For sure. Right? Come on. Come on. You know, the table can fly across the room
by itself. So the first time that you ever sat at the table,
I mean, you had watched it a bunch of times before you sat for the first time, right? Yeah.
Do you remember where you did it for the first time? Iron Island. Yeah.
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In the basement. You were like, all right, fine. I guess I'll get into this.
Well, in the basement's where I saw it the first time. I don't remember where.
I think it was Rolling Hills.
I think that was the first time you sat in a table. Where I actually sat on. It may have been.
Because I remember seeing it in the basement of Iron Alley first.
And I was like, what is this shit?
Yeah. We used to just do it with a folding table. Yeah. Yep.
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I was like, okay, who's moving the table? Four people.
It was just like a rinky-dink little, I don't know. Yeah, it was like a- Square
folding table. Yeah, one of those pop-up tables. Yep.
And sometimes we would do it with two people. Sometimes we'd do it with four people.
But, you know, the thing was always that we had to make sure that there was
room because the table would start to move.
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And, I mean, there were times when the table would, like, be moving so fast
we couldn't keep our hands on it. Yeah.
That's hard to explain. It is. Like, how is it moving?
And, like, literally, my fingernails would touch it. That's it.
It. And I intentionally did that.
I feel like people used to try to intentionally do all sorts of things to disprove it.
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You know, be the cooler, quote unquote, because that was always the thing,
right? Like you kind of have to feel the energy, I guess.
And I don't know if everyone does it the same way that we would do it,
but sometimes we'd operate with, you know, like a person that acted as a battery
so that energy could be drawn from that,
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especially if the energy wasn't real palatable in
you know the space we were in but there were definitely times when people would
like come and watch and be like oh yeah that's that's a bunch of crap and then
the next thing you know they're sitting at the table and the table's moving
and they're like can't keep their hands on it and don't know how to react remember
that little not that little guy that.
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What am I going to call him? That diva from Ghost Hunters that saw us table
tipping that one time. Yeah. He didn't say anything.
Yeah. But then he tweeted about it. Yep. Behind everyone's back.
Yep. We were at Fort Erie. Yeah.
At Fort Niagara. Mm-hmm. Yep. And we were- I forget who he was,
but he was on Ghost Hunters. Yeah.
I think he was with some chick too from- Yeah. I don't remember who.
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I want to say it was like Amy Bruni, but maybe not. I don't know.
I don't know. That was a long time ago, but yeah. It was.
Yeah because you know oh that's not credible yeah i
know but you're on a show that faked everything but that's
so much more credible let the cameraman make this it's a
ghost yeah and here we are
with like three of us around this table in a fort from you know the 1700s that
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suddenly is making this table jostle all around well my thing is too like yeah
if you think it's crap that's fine because i did too and i kind of you know
i still question that what are you gonna to go and tweet behind everyone's back. Go get involved.
Investigate it for yourself, Mr. Ghost Hunter. It's like what you're supposed to do. Yeah, exactly.
So why did you think, I mean, like, I guess let's just talk about it.
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So why did you think that it was, you just thought like everybody was working
in cahoots together to move the table simultaneously in the same direction?
No, I thought one, maybe one specific person was. was.
So I think it's important to note in that scenario, we used to switch people out.
I don't know if you remember, but especially if we were at like a public hunt
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or. But usually it was always one person leading it. Yeah. Yeah.
So, and I think part of that is because there's a way to open the table for
communication and there's a way to close the table for communication.
And it's sort of like when you're using a Ouija board, you don't just leave it open-ended,
you know, you got to close off the connection the table works
the same way so it was always usually i mean there was probably a group of three
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or four of us that would start the sessions and you know that kind of came passed
down from a medium that we worked with yeah i only really remember yeah three or four probably,
but out of our main group there was like two yeah you
were being one of them yep well you got to
learn how to consecrate the table and it's really funny because
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when i was writing my notes up for this episode i was like what
did what did i used to say to start the session like i couldn't even
remember it wasn't it just consecrate this table consecrate this
table for the purpose of spirit communication yeah and
then we would close it at the end so usually there's
like that one person that's consistent but the rest of the people we would switch
out and sometimes we'd have to switch it out just because people were tired
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yeah you know especially if they were the battery yeah like they couldn't keep
doing it like you had to have somebody else sit so in theory you were kind of
like okay this one person is controlling everything but then you sat at a table and,
And you were like, no. I was like, I'm making sure I'm not going to do anything myself.
Didn't we even like set up a camera to like watch people's knees at one point?
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That's like one of the first things I did.
The first time I saw it, I was like, hang on, where's my camera?
And I got out my camera and I put it down low to see like if someone was knocking
into it underneath the table or, you know, cover every angle.
But nobody was. No. it's still it's it's tough you know to to say what it was
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exactly for someone so skeptical like me,
but i mean i've seen i've sat at tables with just you and
like cheryl and i've seen it go and i'm like okay that's interesting
because you know no matter how else like anybody else that was
doing it the two of you i trust completely yeah anybody
else i could doubt it with just not being able to trust them fully
but it's like that was kind of crazy well and again
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it's like in order for somebody to be faking it i
mean because you would feel the table right and
sometimes the table would tip sometimes the table
would jostle sometimes the table would spin you know
it would do all these things and it's like if everybody else
has their hands on the table i don't know
in theory if you could really make the
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table do those things yeah and when we say we're just
one person hands on the table too like i know
for myself and like i think most everybody else we're not
like full palm down on the table we're like i'm
talking tips fingertips yep that's it just like
the lightest touch you could possibly get so go
ahead i was gonna say i think i remember like the
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first time i sat at the table the thing that i thought was the strangest is
that like when the table starts to move you feel like the slight vibrations
at first and what got me was i thought that when i sat at it i'd be able to
pinpoint who was doing it by where the movement was coming from but the the
thing that was always strange is like the movement was always coming from the
dead center of the table.
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So, you know, the whole idea of putting your hands on the table is because when
the table is open for communication and everybody is sitting,
you're channeling the energy around you into the table is what gets the table to move.
So in Victorian times, they thought that was like ectoplasm or some kind of
like fluid that would come through and all these weird things.
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But in later years, and I think especially when we were doing it,
like the theory we worked with is that you're always working on the energy.
You're asking, you know, for that energy to come in for the purpose of communicating
and using this table as a method to do that.
So we would use yes, no questions, but then we also would go through the alphabet at times.
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And I think one of the most unique experiences I ever had table tipping was
at one of our libraries that we used to investigate at.
And it was a glass top table. And we were very nervous about using it,
but we were like, well, no, let's just try it. Let's see what's going to happen.
And as we were starting to
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get some things happening we were trying to figure out who was there
and we were calling out like names of people that we knew spirits
that were potentially in this you know vicinity of
the library and we weren't getting any good responses on that so we started
going through the alphabet and we would say a letter see if the table reacted
and by reacted i mean tip because it was like up on one leg and then back down
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again yeah and i don't know know if you remember this but there was like one
part how the table just kind of like.
Like flipped up and yeah yep and just like
stood there and we were like oh my god like and then it
just came down like so gently and delicately
which is like how would you even try to control that yeah
but we were all worried because it was a glass top table and
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we were like oh my god this table's gonna be wrecked so as
we were going through and getting the hits on on the letters we came
up with a name and it happened to be the name of somebody
who was in the room with us whose mom had passed yeah so
that wasn't wasn't in our group yep but was
like with the library and we didn't we had no idea so the sister of one person
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the mother of another person connected to two people in that room and we had
no idea like you said who that was we had no idea what their name was and it
was very clear that this is what was spelled out yeah i didn't know anything.
I didn't even know, you know, they had lost anybody at the time. No.
I mean, how would we know that? Because we're not trying to connect with people
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in the room. We're trying to connect with spirits that are at that location.
And none of them were at the table too, we should point out. That's true. Yep.
They were just kind of sitting and watching. Yeah.
So really strange. That was the one that I remembered the most.
Like when we said we were going to do this topic, that was like one of the first
ones that came to my mind.
Because that was interesting. Yep. Because I think that's the only time we ever
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really used like the ABC method and it actually worked really well. Yeah.
You know, we had used it, I think, a couple other times. I don't know if you
remember the session that we had at Van Horn when we were starting to use the
table and right before we did, a folding chair folded itself up.
It's freaking crazy. I like, I still to this day, like, can't even believe that
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that happened. I don't know how that works.
So remember, like, we weren't even sitting, we were standing. at
the table yeah and there was just like a folding chair over to
the side and as soon as we started to like open the
table for communication and get everything like sat and
ready all of a sudden the chair just folded itself
right up so freaking weird some weird
shit that happened when yeah the table tipped yep probably
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because you're opening up like that line of communication it's
kind of like in the same vein of like you said a ouija board or like
a seance yeah like what's the other one like trance kind
of like yeah i mean your transfiguration yeah
that's what i was thinking of you're pulling in energy that's the
whole purpose of it so i mean you can imagine that
that whole space would just be it's
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like a vacuum electric you know with everything floating
around in it because of that so you
know a lot of people will look at this and go oh i mean somebody's
got got to be doing it it can't really be real you know you see ouija boards
and i'm even skeptical of the ouija board only because the
planchette is so small yeah that it takes like no effort
whatsoever to be able to move it pick it up in
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your hand you can't really lift a 400 pound table yes with one hand yeah or
have it like spin around on one leg while you're like literally running and
chasing and trying to keep your hand on it even those folding tables which we
used i think a majority of the time like like now that i'm old and i have a
house and i have those folding tables Every time I got to take them out, I'm like, oh.
It's freaking things heavy, you know? It's location to location. Yeah.
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I think we even had like, that was like the designated table.
Did it break? I'm sure. Didn't we go through several? I think we did.
There was a couple of them that ended up breaking. I remember someone taking
one back to Walmart after shortly buying it and being like, oh, the leg's broken.
They were like, huh, I've never seen that before.
Yeah. Well, we didn't do it. Somebody did it. Yeah.
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So I thought that this was kind of an interesting point with this,
too, is that when I was going back through and reading some stuff about,
you know, just like the table tipping and the spiritual movement that happened and everything.
All that kind of stuff. It's like, I came across this quote that said,
the more you do it, the more tuned in you become.
And it made me think of you because I remember like your spidey sense starting to kick in a lot more.
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And I wonder if that corresponded with like how much table tipping we were doing.
I think that definitely was part of it. You know, cause like you're so much
more aware of everything and it's like anything else.
You get into that mode of like
pulling the energy and looking for that communication that it's
like you know you go from somebody who's like complete skeptic and
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like not believing anything to being like yeah i saw that shadow in
the corner yeah i miss my spidey sense it's
long gone it's all gone it's long gone sadly i don't know i feel like you could
probably get it back if you wanted it yeah i feel like that's why i was never
a good battery though too because like i was always trying to like focus on
pulling energy in but at the same time i'm like who's faking a shit and like
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paying attention to everything around me.
That was always my favorite is like when we would do stuff with people that
hadn't done it before that thought it wasn't going to be real yeah it's such
it's such a bizarre experience to go from seeing it to sitting at the table
it's like two completely different experiences.
Yeah. And again, like in order for somebody to be faking that,
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everybody would have to know like, okay, the table's going to shift this way.
The table's going to shift that way. And the table's going to do this, this, and this.
It's like, there's no way to predict or to get four people unless like you got
them together ahead of time and you were like, okay, so the table's going to
tip left, then the table's going to tip right.
Which I mean, I guess you could in theory, you know. That would be really hard to like choreograph.
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I feel like even if you were trying to fake it. For sure.
I mean, I think that some of like the Victorian seance stuff was probably like that. Oh, yeah.
You know, they probably had a set thing that they would do over and over again,
especially at like the shows and the physical demonstrations. Yeah.
And, you know, obviously a lot of that stuff wasn't real because a lot of it was debunked and.
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And they had like set places that they would do things. And so like they had
like their whole place rigged up for stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. Whereas we're just grabbing a folding table at Walmart that night
and going to different places every night. Yep.
And like, you know, back in Victorian times, they would describe the tables
as levitating up off the ground.
You know, like doing these kinds of like weird things that we never saw tables do.
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We never saw one fully take off. I think a couple came pretty close just by
like centripetal force of how fast it was going.
So dangerous things that can happen you can
have it land on you yeah you can
get pinned by it especially when it's moving pretty quickly
yeah that was always something we had to be worried about
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you know trip over things run into people hit walls yeah i mean because you've
got to think too you're usually in a darkened spot i mean not total darkness
because we would always do it with some ambient light somewhere let's bring
back memories too the the highest pressure part about table tipping is when
you're not at the table and you're the person in charge of moving Moving the
chairs when shit starts flying around.
Oh my God, that's true. I forgot about that because that was always the first thing. Yep.
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Somebody would be like, okay, we're up. And then you'd have to like kick the
chair out. You got those two chairs. I'll get those two chairs.
So nobody got hurt. Yeah.
Which again is like unpredictable, right? Yeah. How do you know when stuff is going to happen?
And then once the session either started to come down or got too dangerous,
we would always stop it before it got out of hand.
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Yeah. Or if people were starting to get too tired. Like you can tell people
are just like exhausted.
That happened a lot. what was happening which is another
reason why we had to switch people out a lot i always thought
it was like the craziest when the table would just like you know
it was going but then like it would just go in one direction like
randomly especially when it would come towards me when i
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was at the table i'm like i'm not pulling this thing towards me and it would just fly
in one direction and yeah or it would start to
hop yeah remember like when the tables would hop yeah it
was like the weirdest thing it would literally yeah it was like up and
down it was like yeah and then you
just be like oh i don't know how this is gonna go yep but
i think that maybe for us i feel like we just
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started to rely on it too much yeah because
it was like i mean it's fun like yeah it was
you know you know because it's it's like you go
somewhere you sit in the dark place for three
hours and nothing happens just asking stupid questions
over and and over again and then you get this table and all of a sudden you're
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jogging across the room it's flying all over the place and i always found that
interesting because i'm like we'd go to a place and be dead then all of a sudden
the table comes out and it's alive yeah.
I mean, I can. And I think, too, like when I said it was like similar to like
Seance and like the Ouija board,
like I said, I think also maybe it's similar to like the spirit box.
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Because you're calling, because I feel like you're calling things in that might
not necessarily be tied to that place.
Yep. Whereas where everything else you do, it is, you know? Yeah. Does that make sense?
Is that kind of how it works? Yeah. Well, we always used to,
remember we would, during sessions, we would ask if spirits were there in visitation
or if they belong to that location.
Or a person. Yeah, because it can pull things in. And it makes sense if it was
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like a quiet night and nothing was going on.
And then we started table tipping and things got going because you're bringing
that energy in. You're bringing your own energy.
Because we always used to tell people, don't sit if you are in a bad mood.
Don't sit if you had road rage on your way here. We always would try to make
sure you were in a good headspace for it. Yeah.
Because you're bringing your own junk into everything, just like we always do
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anyway. Anyway, you know, you don't want that idiot that's sitting at the table
trying to provoke whatever it is because somebody really could get hurt.
There was a few times where things got kind of interesting like that.
Yeah. Like at the NIC, I think, wasn't there one time they kept trying to pin us? Uh-huh. Yeah.
Yeah. Flipped over on its side and almost like took out somebody's toes. Yep.
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Yeah. I mean, just not always like great experiences, but how many places do
you think we probably table tipped at? Oh, jeez. If you had to guess, rough estimate.
Probably like 20 or more. Yeah, I would say the same. I'd say over 20 is probably the good odds.
So the first couple of times you saw it, you were like, this can't be real.
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Yeah, I was like, absolutely not.
Absolutely not? I was like, absolutely not. This is fake.
So it was easy to just be like, yeah, this can't be really happening.
Even though these people don't know each other that are sitting at this table
and these things are happening. And I didn't know those people that well yet at that point.
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And even knowing some of them now, I'm like, well, maybe. But like when I sat
at the table, like I said, with like you and Cheryl or like you and Jeff,
it's like, I'm, you know, I trust that.
You know, I know I'm not faking it. I know you guys aren't faking it.
Well, that's like the whole, and it's crazy because there's only three of you.
Yeah. Which we have done.
You can still get the same reaction from the table as if there was five people sitting.
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Yeah. You know? So it's like, again, like it's got to have something to do with
the energy that you're pulling in. 100% it does. Yeah.
But I do feel like it's not, it's not for everyone. No. Mm-mm.
And even starting those sessions and closing them and being in charge of those
sessions, like it's not for everyone.
And, you know, people that are prone to attachments, prone to maybe some mental health stuff,
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really not a great idea to just be randomly table tipping at places trying to
get spirit communication going.
You got to know how to have like that, that unofficial armor up, I guess.
We always used to say, like, don't be the chink in the armor.
Yeah. Don't be the one. I didn't really understand until, like,
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Hinsdale, when it was explained to me very well.
Did we tabletip at Hinsdale? No, I don't think so.
It's probably smart that we didn't try to do that there.
But lots of other places, for sure. Yep.
See, the episodes like this make me want to un-retire from ghost hunting and go tabletip somewhere.
I still have, like, video of tabletipping sessions. I'm sure I do, too, somewhere.
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I mean, I feel like, you know, we would record them a lot just because of the
fact that people wouldn't always believe them. And it was like,
well, if you want to see it, here you go.
Yeah, I think if I wasn't sitting at the table, I was always recording them. Just because.
And like we said, seeing them and sitting at the table, though,
is completely different. Yeah.
You know, even with me getting them at all angles, like above,
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like below the table, everywhere, every which way you could think of.
I don't know if people are even still really doing this anymore.
I feel like the fad kind of ran itself out again.
Like table tipping or ghost hunting in general? Well, both, but definitely,
you know, the table tipping.
I see that, so there's obviously, Lillydale is not too far from our Parababble studio.
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And Lillydale is known as the town that speaks to the dead. Yeah.
And they are, you know, the birthplace of the spiritualist movement,
probably in, you know, this part of the country.
And they still hold a Victorian seance and do table tipping every year.
But I don't know how, I've never been to it.
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No. So I don't know if it's meant to be like a real honest session or if it's
more just like in the custom of.
Production, yeah, like an honorary. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know.
Yeah, I mean, I remember at one point, like we were table tipping so much,
like even when we weren't table tipping, like if it was like somewhere where
we had to stay overnight or whatever,
it'd be like the next morning and like, we'd all be sitting at the table and
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we'd be careful because we're like touching the table and like,
oh, what are we doing? It starts moving, you know?
Be out to breakfast the next morning or at dinner that night at a restaurant
and like put our hands on the table and it starts vibrating.
But I feel like, again, it's like the more you do it, the more in tune you get
to it, the easier it is to pull that energy in.
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It's like it doesn't necessarily matter where you even are then.
Yeah. It's like you're using that same core group of people. And it really was.
Like we would switch it out if we were at like a public event.
Yeah. So people could see it for themselves. Yep. but for the
most part i feel like our core group was always the same
you know people yeah so you get
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used to that energy you know it's like it's
hard to explain if you've never been ghost hunting and you never
have done that on a regular basis like you can walk
into a pitch dark room and you just
kind of know like who's there yeah you know
like and i don't mean ghosts i mean the people in
your group yeah i think because you have to be so aware of
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everything else very rarely would you walk in and be like thinking
there was nobody there like you would know like oh somebody's sitting over there
yeah or there's a person over that way because you're
you get in tune to like reading almost like the energy from people yeah and
then sometimes you'd read the energy and you'd be like what is that there's
nobody there i know i'm the only one here right now there's nobody but there's
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somebody there's nobody here right now yeah exactly that was always the best Just, see,
I do miss my spidey senses sometimes. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, maybe we'll just have to, like, get you out in an environment where you
got to use them. Yeah. Yeah. Why not?
Like we're in an old haunted library in the middle of the night. Yes.
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Or a museum. Those buildings are still there. They are.
I feel like, you know, there's got to be something to them still,
right? Yeah. Didn't just, like, the ghost didn't go away because people stopped ghost hunting.
If anything, they're bored now and they're probably more eager to come out.
And say hi so i think the main
thing to kind of take away from this is that table tipping is just
another tool that you can use just like
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a ouija board or you know i don't know
we used a rug with an alphabet on it oh yeah at one investigation like those
ones in like kindergarten rooms yeah remember that we were just going around
to the alphabet the same way that we did you know with anything else so you
know dowsing rods things that
people use while they're out doing investigations It's just another tool.
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Yep. The main thing to remember is you should always open and close a session. Never leave them open.
And just be mindful that you don't always know exactly who you're talking to. Exactly.
Might not be who they say they are.
Might be a little girl. Might be an old man. Or a demon. Or a demon. Or a demon.
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Music.