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March 2, 2023 63 mins

In this episode, Dr. Norissa and Dr. Bukky, the podcast hosts, shed more light on the meaning of GEMMification, white supremacy, the idea of being a GEMM, types of GEMMs, consequences of being deGEMMified and the different kinds of GEMMs. They also continue further and discuss in details the concept of deGEMMification, meaning of liberation, alignment in one’s own power, how power is important in locating liberation and the phases of liberation.

Timestamps

[00:55] Meaning of GEMMification

[03:42] White supremacy

[07:58] The idea of being a GEMM

[10:45] Types of GEMMs

[17:35] Consequences of being deGEMMified

[25:48] Different kinds of GEMMs

[37:40] The concept of deGEMMification

[38:25] Meaning of liberation

[46:47] Alignment with one’s own power

[52:38] How power is important in locating liberation

[57:37] The phases of liberation

Notable Quotes

  • (01:03) “GEMM stands for Good Effective Mainstream Minority.”

  • (03:50) “White supremacy is the way whiteness has been normed within institutions.”

  • (09:27) “It’s not whether or not we are a GEMM. It’s either you are a GEMM, end up dead, or end up in jail.”

  • (9:40) “The question really hasn’t been are you a GEMM or not, the question is really about how much of a GEMM you are.”

  • (10:05) “DeGEMMification is the process through which you start to reclaim your own self.”

  • (16:14) “People who are engaged in liberation have a target placed on their backs.”

  • (19:28) “To decide to be liberated requires risk.”

  • (24:42) “The only way we get there is really in context with our ability to be vulnerable and be honest about what the truth is.”

  • (54:29) “Restorative justice is about people coming into right relationships with those they have harmed.”

  • (59:19) “Liberation has no final end, it is ongoing and continually involves acquisition of knowledge of yourself.”

Relevant Links

Radical Remembering Podcast

Website: https://radicalremembering.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/radical_remembering/

Connect with Dr. Norissa

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.norissawilliams/

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/norissa-williams-97401868/

Connect with Dr. Bukky

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bukky-kolawole-psyd-5a08449/

Radical Remembering is a podcast that will help you remember who you are and what you stand for. It's a place where you can find the strength to be your authentic self, create space for self-care, and take care of yourself in ways that nurture your own wisdom and growth. Thank you for listening to the Radical Remembering podcast! Listen to our next podcast and tell a friend about us.

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