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VOICEOVER (00:01):
Everybody's got an opinion,
Every Californian and Virginian, It's
so hard to tell who to trust and who to
ignore, Someone's gotta settle the score.
Trey and Chelsey will help you choose, Who's viewswin which ones lose, Online haters are coming
for you, Baby, it's time to Review That Review!
CHELSEY DONN (00:30):
Hello,
TREY GERRALD (00:31):
Oh, hello, and
welcome to Review That Review.
We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing.
CHELSEY DONN (00:40):
Reviews!
TREY GERRALD (00:42):
That is Chelsey Donn,
CHELSEY DONN (00:44):
And that's Trey Gerrald!
TREY GERRALD (00:47):
and together we are,
VOICEOVER (00:48):
The Review Queens,
TREY GERRALD (00:52):
but first, Miss Chelsey Louise
Marie Conchita Donatella Versace Donn.
What would you like to
VOICEOVER (01:01):
Lodge a complaint,
TREY GERRALD (01:03):
about this week, Diva?
CHELSEY DONN (01:04):
I think that might be my
favorite version of my name to date.
Not gonna lie.
Okay.
So today I want to complain about peoplethat hold grudges for really stupid reasons.
And specifically people who like hold thosegrudges and then make you as a friend listen to
that grudge over and over again, like get over
it that Ashley didn't bring potato salad to your
barbecue when she said she was going to five
TREY GERRALD (01:37):
Years ago.
CHELSEY DONN (01:38):
Like, I don't
want to hear it anymore.
I'm so over the drama.
I just can't stand it.
And I also try to hold myself accountable to thatbecause listen, we complain every single episode.
I am not above complaining.
I get annoyed all the MF in time, butI just try to hold myself accountable
not to hold a grudge and to have some
sort of a variable for everyone else.
(02:01):
Things might change or maybe it wasthis or maybe it was that, right?
Because I've lived experiences inmy life, even with like family where
it's like, we hold these grudges.
We can't even talk to thesepeople and it's just not worth it.
Life is too short and let's get over it.
So,
TREY GERRALD (02:19):
Well, speaking of The
Grudge, uh, did you ever see that movie?
CHELSEY DONN (02:25):
no.
Is it a scary movie?
TREY GERRALD (02:27):
Yeah, cause you, do
you know the horror movie The Ring?
So that was based on this Japanesehorror movie called Ringu, and that same
director writer also had a very famous
other film called The Grudge in Japanese.
So, but the grudge, like, was them tryingto, like, continue the success of the ring,
and Sarah Michelle Gellar was in it, I think.
(02:50):
Anyway, I hear you with the grudging.
I thought when you started this, I waslike, Oh, no, is this an intervention?
CHELSEY DONN (02:57):
oh,
TREY GERRALD (02:57):
Well, I just well not for you,
but I feel like I definitely hold grudges
not like in a devastating way But like if
you wronged me in the past, I am gonna be in
the back of my mind Well, we'll see if Sarah
brings the pasta salad this time, you know,
CHELSEY DONN (03:12):
totally, and listen, like, I
think that that's human nature, and that's
okay, I really do, because I'm the, and
like I said, I'm the same way, like, I say
this because I understand that tendency
within myself, but then, When you receive
it from other people and you sort of try to
like zen out for a second, it's who cares?
How many times do I probably make astupid mistake or do something that pisses
somebody off completely unintentionally?
(03:37):
If everybody held a grudge for everything thateveryone did, nobody would have any friends.
And that doesn't mean that, like, there aren'tthings that are unacceptable, right, like,
you don't have to be friends with that person,
like, you're an adult, but I'm really talking
about things that, like, don't matter as much,
you know, there was a girl in college that held
a grudge over me for something so stupid and
trivial that I don't even want to talk about in
the main show, but, like, it was, like, so Some
and like a judgmental thing to hold a grudge
over and then her friend went to that person
was like it's ridiculous like I'm gonna talk
to her like you should be friends with Chelsey,
Chelsey's great and then I asked her the next
day like did you talk to so and so about me
and she's like yeah I'm sorry like it's a no
I'm like it's a no like what did I do did I
like murder her dog like what did I do like
did I like slander her family like it's just so
ridiculous That's something that's so innocuous.
(04:30):
Somebody could just be so like upset about it.
It's a waste of time and energy, guys.
TREY GERRALD (04:36):
I can I can speak to that on the
opposite scenario because I did make a really
bad choice in my young adulthood in like the love
department and this person had basically I was
seeing someone and then I started seeing their
friend which I was totally in the wrong for and
that person stopped speaking to me for a very long
time and then Cuts just several years later, I'm
like reached out and really wanted to like correct
that, you know and really apologize and he totally
like, did not want to have a conversation, but was
receptive and I have seen him so many times since.
(05:14):
He actually lives in LA, So it was a personthat I was like, we both went to LA at the same
time, but he full time lived there, moved there.
And like that is an experience of someonewho's large enough or big enough to Accept
and offer grace and let go of a grudge.
And that's so remarkable.
I mean, that's really beautiful.
Cause I was really in the
CHELSEY DONN (05:33):
end of the day, it helps him because
like, if he was like holding an impression of
you in his head, that was like really negative.
TREY GERRALD (05:40):
I'm sure he was,
CHELSEY DONN (05:42):
What she probably was, him
allowing you graciously to reenter his life and
him allowing himself to have a new perception
of you actually set him free in a way,
TREY GERRALD (05:54):
That's true.
Yeah.
CHELSEY DONN (05:55):
so that's what I feel about
it really is that like, you're really
only hurting yourself when you hold
these grudges and it doesn't mean that
you have to like, allow everybody in.
I think being selective, especiallyas an adult is essential living.
I think holding grudges and holding that spacein your heart, regardless of whether or not
that person is present or not, is harming you.
(06:17):
And with that in mind, Trey, should we jump onto some people that seriously hold some grudges?
TREY GERRALD (06:24):
Well, you're going to shortly
find out that it is very applicable for today's
CHELSEY DONN (06:28):
Ooh, love when that happens.
TREY GERRALD (06:30):
individual.
CHELSEY DONN (06:32):
Okay, even more.
TREY GERRALD (06:34):
so let's jump over
to the online reviews, shall we?
CHELSEY DONN (06:37):
do it.
Yes.
VOICEOVER (06:40):
Review That Review,
CHELSEY DONN (06:44):
As you know, we
are your trusty review queens.
We bring in reviews from the internetthat we feel need to be inspected.
TREY GERRALD (06:53):
We read you a review and
we break it down by rating the impact of
the review on a scale from 0 to 5 crowns.
It is a very regal process that we call...
VOICEOVER (07:03):
Assess That Kvetch,
CHELSEY DONN (07:04):
That's right.
And Trey, it is your turn this week.
What have you brought in?
TREY GERRALD (07:09):
Okay, so I'm very excited.
So today we have a brand new source...
CHELSEY DONN (07:13):
Woo!
TREY GERRALD (07:14):
Never before covered on our
show, and this is actually from a listener,
CHELSEY DONN (07:20):
Woo!
Love that.
Thank you.
Thank you, listener.
TREY GERRALD (07:24):
it's from my husband.
Okay, so,
CHELSEY DONN (07:26):
Thank you, David.
TREY GERRALD (07:28):
all right, so we've been traveling
a lot, so we've been using the source, and
I will tell you before I tell you anything
else, I have been a employee of this source.
CHELSEY DONN (07:39):
You've been
an employee of this source,
TREY GERRALD (07:41):
I can, I can
speak with knowledge on, yes.
So today, I'm gonna be sharinga one star review from Rover.
com!
CHELSEY DONN (07:54):
wow.
Okay,
TREY GERRALD (07:56):
Do you know what Rover is?
CHELSEY DONN (07:58):
is that like, they can
walk and maybe also do pet sitting?
TREY GERRALD (08:02):
Okay, so yeah, so there's
a couple of companies like this.
One is called WAG.
They're very popular inmajor metropolistic cities.
Is that a word?
CHELSEY DONN (08:10):
Yeah.
Sure.
TREY GERRALD (08:11):
So, yeah, it's basically
an app where you can get dog walkers.
Cat sitters, you can do like overnight stays.
Back in the day when I started, youcould do like an emergency booking.
So it's like I am in a bind and I need my dogto be walked in the next hour, which they sort
of got away with, I think for legal reasons,
but we're not getting into that anyway.
So when Dave and I have beentraveling, we need to get a dog sitter.
(08:35):
So sometimes they'll come in the middleof the day or twice in the day, or
they'll sleep over, which is lovely.
So and
CHELSEY DONN (08:41):
they'll stay at your house?
TREY GERRALD (08:43):
Yeah, you can do that.
It's called
CHELSEY DONN (08:44):
Oh, that's
TREY GERRALD (08:44):
Stays.
I know, it is amazing, but all of the servicesare included, and I will tell you, as someone
who has been a dog walker on Rover, you
do have to do an extensive training, and
you also have to go in person and put on
six different harnesses in under a minute.
Like, they really do, like, sort of make
CHELSEY DONN (09:02):
then, like, background check, I'm
TREY GERRALD (09:04):
They do background checks,
CHELSEY DONN (09:05):
stay in your home,
TREY GERRALD (09:07):
Yes, and also on the app, it
does log how quick your response time is
to potential clients that are inquiring.
All of that goes into like your gradeand how high your grade is the higher
you're recommended in the system.
It's really a fantasticservice from my experience.
So all right,
CHELSEY DONN (09:25):
But not from
whoever this experience.
TREY GERRALD (09:27):
so this is a one star
rover app review written by Sarah H.
and this is for a rover dog walker named Dana.
All right,
CHELSEY DONN (09:38):
Wait, this is, I'm sorry,
you said this is a specific review for
TREY GERRALD (09:42):
So yeah, so Sarah has written this
one star review for a dog walker named Dana.
I'm not gonna say Dana's lastinitial, which we'll get into later.
Alright, here we go, are you ready?
This was a verified stay and itwas written November 26th of 2022.
Here we are.
T.
L.
D.
(10:03):
R.
Dana sat for me before, but this was alonger weekend job and ended up being
an extremely disappointing experience.
She left my house a mess, took otherjobs during mine, And doubled her
rate after asking me to go off app.
(10:23):
Do not recommend.
The whole story.
Dana sat for my puppy a few times in the past,Which was great every time, But not overnight.
We agreed she'd sit him at my homefor a four day trip to Mexico.
I'll run down the series of events.
(10:43):
October 6th, Dana agrees to sit Puppy.
October 22nd, Dana asks me to cancelthe Rover booking and pay through Zelle.
Parentheses, 20 percent comes out fromRover, so I accommodated her request, taking
no discount as the rate was so reasonable.
(11:04):
End parentheses.
November 20 a.
m.
Two days into the trip, I wake up to multiplemessages and video of my puppy spitting up,
parentheses not the first issue, November 20 a.
m.
I changed my flight because I'm not confidentanymore, November 21st AM, I send the Zelle
for the agreed rate back in October, and
pay her for five days, even though I'm home
eight hours early, plus a 10 percent tip.
(11:38):
November 21st AM, Dana spam texts me about howunfair her rate is, and charges for five nights
at a new rate, even though I came home early.
This happens on the plane home.
November 21st AM.
We're still on that same heading, by the way.
(12:01):
Dana demands more money, even thoughshe took other jobs during my booking.
Parentheses, which I was finewith, given the original rate.
Still.
November 21st AM.
Bearing in mind she was still at my house withmy puppy, I conceded to pay her half of the
difference between the original and new rate.
(12:21):
November 21st, 2.
30pm.
I finally come home.
Everything is a wreck.
Plastic in puppy's cage.
Sink full of her dishes.
Garbages full.
Balcony has pee all over it.
Bags of my snacks open and leftand complete staples consumed.
CHELSEY DONN (12:44):
What?
TREY GERRALD (12:44):
Which, I'd welcome her to,
given the original rate, November 21st,
3pm, I pay her the new amount to avoid
further discussion, November 21st, 3.
15pm, she leaves and I clean up after her andthe puppy for four hours, My puppy is 100 percent
trained to use a pet loo, Dana made me aware
the wind made it not possible for him to use.
(13:13):
I advised her to just bring it inside.
I thought she'd just walk him, but basedon the sheer number of urine and poop
marks on my balcony and balcony furniture,
I think she just let him go there.
This took two days to clean.
I'm not going to speculate on what took placeand what did not in my absence, but this lack
of integrity can definitely inspire ideas.
(13:41):
I am astounded by Dana's temerity, especiallysince we've communicated respectfully
and treated each other well in the past.
She's never left my home like this before.
I feel like she treated my home like a hotel,changed her rate with no notice, and my
puppy was secondary to money and convenience.
I feel fully taken advantage of.
(14:04):
Ultimately, I do takeresponsibility for being trusting.
Going off the app does notbenefit your animal in any way.
It only helps sitters manipulate their rates,show their calendar as open when they may be
working for you, and eliminates accountability.
Do not go off the app.
CHELSEY DONN (14:28):
Okay, this is very interesting.
Okay, so this is a nightmare horror story, andI'm sure this is, has not only happened to Sarah,
I'm sure it happens all the time where people
go off the app, because if you're paying, let's
just say 20 an hour to the app, I'm sure the
person is probably only getting, what, like 10?
TREY GERRALD (14:52):
Yeah, I actually forget the split.
I just realized that as I was reading,like, oh crap, I wish I remembered, but
yeah, it's basically you pay per half hour
visit, essentially, and they do take out
a percentage for insurance, which benefits
both the pet owner and the walker, and
then they also take a split, so, yes,
CHELSEY DONN (15:10):
what I find interesting about this
is that I definitely think it's a cautionary tale,
especially if you would like work with that person
a few times, like, let's just go off the app.
So in terms of like the scenarioand the cautionary tale, I feel
very real and we'll get into that.
However, where I'm struggling a littlebit is This is kind of almost a five star
review of Rover because this is actually
showing if she had used the service that
she's now reviewing properly, then the rate
thing definitely would never have happened.
(15:45):
And if the cleanliness happened, therewould be some sort of recourse, right?
Like you could reach out to Rover and say, thisperson left my, you know, apartment a mess.
I don't know how it works exactly,but you could probably even like
rate Dana specifically in the app.
Very low, right?
What Rover might have done, we don'tknow and Sarah doesn't know because Sarah
made the fatal flaw of going off the app.
(16:12):
So that's where I'm struggling becauseI don't, I'm not like holding a grudge
against Sarah or blaming them for
making the decision to go off the app.
I think it's like very common and somethingcould, that could definitely happen.
But as far as this being like a one star reviewof Rover, I don't really know that that's fair.
What do you think?
TREY GERRALD (16:32):
Well, I do think that the
endless, like, date markers is just too
much, but they do point out that they booked
on Rover on October 6th, and then October
22nd, Dana asked them to cancel the...
The booking.
So that's very shady.
Also backing up and what you were just saying,part of that convenience fee and split of using
Rover is that there is 24 7 emergency responders.
(16:59):
When you are in Mexico and you get youwake up to all these videos and things
of the dog spitting up, you can contact
emergency services and they will help so
that you don't have to jump on a plane.
I mean, Cause it, right, and also, it'simportant to distinguish, everything is
monitored when you're using the app correctly.
CHELSEY DONN (17:18):
right,
TREY GERRALD (17:19):
never know someone's
direct phone number, you're always
messaging them through the app.
That show up as text messages,but they're dummy, fake phone
CHELSEY DONN (17:28):
right, like when you're
doing Uber Eats or whatever it is,
TREY GERRALD (17:31):
that's exactly right.
Also, it is, another point that shows up, like,this is an overnight stay, so it is interesting to
know that you aren't hiring exclusivity, because,
like, presumably, you can't book another booking,
you can't have two bookings at the same time, so
I guess if you did, I've never done an overnight,
but if you do an overnight, I'm assuming you
can't have a midday walk for another animal, huh?
(17:58):
Right.
CHELSEY DONN (17:58):
are paying for exclusivity.
TREY GERRALD (18:00):
guess that is true, yeah.
So that's another five starreason to use Rover appropriately.
CHELSEY DONN (18:06):
very interesting because
like it is sort of like a cautionary
tale five star review, right?
I'm just the only thing that I'm I guessI'm struggling with in terms of I really
just feel this is a both an incorrectly
assigned rating and sort of an incorrectly
placed aggression because it really the
issue is with Dana Incorporated, right?
(18:27):
Not with Rover, but I don't know.
TREY GERRALD (18:30):
Well, I'm wondering if the
value here is like, what does this say
about Dana the Dog Walker's character?
That they are asking you to go off?
But I know that as someone who works forRover, it's explicitly said, constantly, you
cannot request to go off app, and if a client
asks to go off app, you have to decline.
(18:52):
So I'm certain that there's verbiageabout that on the other side too,
CHELSEY DONN (18:56):
Oh, for sure.
TREY GERRALD (18:58):
like, how do you feel, is there any
deal breaking information for you, for Dana as a
dog walker, like if you're looking at this, like
do you feel like you would not want to hire them?
CHELSEY DONN (19:08):
information for Dana that I'm
just like struggling to put it in context.
But yes, if we want to take a moment todig into Dana, I mean, let's go there.
Like, first of all, completelyinappropriate behavior from day one.
Okay, yes, I
TREY GERRALD (19:22):
think so too.
CHELSEY DONN (19:25):
had a question about that.
So like, when you kept saying,Sunday AM or whatever that was.
Did Sarah write that over and over again?
Sunday AM, Sunday AM, Sunday AM.
Why couldn't she just have writtenSunday AM and then given us the saga?
But whatever.
Or
TREY GERRALD (19:40):
Well, I think they wanted
to point out how many sagas there were.
CHELSEY DONN (19:43):
sure, sure.
TREY GERRALD (19:44):
always its own sentence.
Like, it's its own line, and there's a dash
CHELSEY DONN (19:48):
Right, so maybe this looks
like less obnoxious when you're reading it
versus when you're like reading it aloud.
Okay, here's like the area of like, I was likesort of okay, maybe something happened with
the dog, like the rate thing was like crazy.
What was crazier about the whole situationwas that it was happening while Sarah H was
flying back to see their sick puppy, which is
like the time when you're the most vulnerable.
(20:14):
Like, if you want to think about a time, like,first of all, the idea of leaving your pet
under anyone's care is extremely vulnerable.
We don't even need to get into that.
We both know that.
So like, Then you tell me that my dog is sick, sonow I am really anxious and I'm anxious enough.
Fuck it.
I'm gonna change my flight and I'm gonna comehome early because I wanna see my pet and get them
to the vet or make sure that everything's okay.
(20:37):
I am like, I'm very concerned.
So now I've changed my flight, my vacation, andnow the person who like almost has my home and
my dog hostage is saying to me, pay me more.
TREY GERRALD (20:49):
Right, my rate's so unfair.
CHELSEY DONN (20:50):
so unfair.
My rate, by the way, that I established, right?
Who sets the rate on Rover?
TREY GERRALD (20:58):
You do.
CHELSEY DONN (20:59):
You do.
Thank
TREY GERRALD (21:00):
Yeah.
But you have to be competitive withthe other people in your market.
CHELSEY DONN (21:04):
but not if it's bullshit, right?
So
TREY GERRALD (21:06):
Well, Sarah does a great
job of establishing that Dana requested
to go off to not have to lose the 20%.
And Sarah agrees to do it, like, they'renot profiting, only Dana H is profiting.
Right.
CHELSEY DONN (21:22):
So it's like
TREY GERRALD (21:22):
then she tips on top
of it, and came back early, paid the
fine, like that is like, excruciating.
CHELSEY DONN (21:29):
only used Dana for
walks, so Dana really could have
pivoted that initial rate at any point,
TREY GERRALD (21:36):
That's true.
CHELSEY DONN (21:37):
Like, oh, I want
to book you on blah, blah, blah.
Dana could say, oh, you know what, I haven't donean overnight in a while, so I actually haven't
changed my rates, I just want to be upfront about
it, it's actually 60 a day, not 40 a day, or it's
actually 80 a day, not blah, blah, blah a day.
It just feels like really schemeythe way the whole thing went down.
(21:58):
Like,
TREY GERRALD (21:58):
That's, wait, yes, thank
you for saying that, because I meant
to say that earlier and I forgot.
They sort of hold it in escrow, so theclient pays, the app holds it, and it's not
released until the transaction's completed.
So all of this money negotiation should havebeen taken care of before the booking, even
if you're off app, otherwise you're right,
it's gross, like, we've agreed on this, I've
flown home early, like, get out of my house.
(22:21):
Like, I paid you on Zelle, we're
CHELSEY DONN (22:24):
Right.
If you have an agreed upon rate, youdon't get to just change that rate.
Like, It's crazy.
TREY GERRALD (22:32):
So we do believe Sarah,
Like we, we think Sarah's being truthful,
CHELSEY DONN (22:36):
I do because I think that
Sarah has really come to this platform
to display this cautionary tale, right?
TREY GERRALD (22:43):
I think so
CHELSEY DONN (22:44):
Like, they're,
they're not saying I'm perfect.
They're saying I made a mistake.
This is
TREY GERRALD (22:49):
And my experiences with Dana
were great when it was on app and it was a
walk, But when I went off app, It went to shit,
CHELSEY DONN (22:57):
can see this happening all the time.
It's very valuable.
Just based off of reading Sarah's review alone,I would be afraid to get off the app, which begs
the question, Trey, and I know it's a little bit
of a leap, but is there a world in which, like,
this is a planted review from Rover to try to be
like, this is why you don't get off of our app.
(23:21):
I don't know.
TREY GERRALD (23:22):
I don't know, I was thinking
that too, like, this is like a textbook example
that Rover could use when they're training
clients, training walkers, I mean, spelling
grammar is pretty solid, there's like one or
two little, like, random mistakes, I don't know
how we gauge the common experience, typical
fluky stuff here, like, I don't know, because,
It's just, it's like a really bad scenario.
CHELSEY DONN (23:45):
It's a really bad scenario.
This is a very complicated one in terms of
TREY GERRALD (23:50):
I know.
CHELSEY DONN (23:51):
into the crowning, to
be honest, because I just don't know.
TREY GERRALD (23:55):
It's weird because
it's, it's not for the service.
It's for the walker who went off the serso it is sort of like, well then, you know,
I don't know if I should share this yet,
but Dana P's overall rating is five stars.
CHELSEY DONN (24:09):
Hmm.
How do
TREY GERRALD (24:10):
And David, uh, because David
actually found this, shared it with me and
inquired with Dana even after reading the review.
So it did not sway David.
CHELSEY DONN (24:21):
Wait a second.
Hold on.
So Dana is someone that's available in your area.
TREY GERRALD (24:27):
Yes, this was, we were in
the car, and David was looking for walkers.
CHELSEY DONN (24:31):
Okay.
Is this review under Dana's profile?
TREY GERRALD (24:36):
Yes,
CHELSEY DONN (24:37):
Okay, okay, okay.
TREY GERRALD (24:38):
this is a review for Dana.
It's not for Rover.
CHELSEY DONN (24:41):
Okay.
Okay.
That is a horse of a different color.
Okay.
TREY GERRALD (24:46):
Okay, so what are you hearing now,
CHELSEY DONN (24:48):
value of this then
just skyrocketed for me because this
TREY GERRALD (24:51):
but, but even though it
isn't about Dana as a dog walker on
Rover, It's about Dana off of the app.
CHELSEY DONN (24:59):
yeah, but Dana is Dana, right?
TREY GERRALD (25:01):
I know, because it's
something about the character.
CHELSEY DONN (25:03):
Like definitely if I was going
to use Dana, I would never go off the app.
So that is
TREY GERRALD (25:09):
hearing that, too.
And what about this whole conversation aboutthe pee pad and, like, the pee and poop all
over the balcony and, like, what is all of that?
Because that's your literal job,is to make sure the dog doesn't pee
and poop where it's not supposed to.
That's your job.
CHELSEY DONN (25:25):
I'm like kind of shocked
that David would read this review
and then still want to use Dana.
And again, not to hold a grudge off Danafrom this one experience, but at the
same time, yeah, I think it does speak
to the character of the individual,
TREY GERRALD (25:40):
I know.
CHELSEY DONN (25:41):
but I do think that like
Sarah leaving this This trail for potential
customers in the future is really good.
I think it keeps Dana in check and like makesit so that Dana can't just do this again.
And you know, if they have a five star,hopefully I'm reading these reviews and
like, I'm going to be, this one star
review is going to really stick out to me.
(26:04):
And I'm going to know going in, if Dana pullsthis crap about going off the app, I'm out.
TREY GERRALD (26:10):
I know.
You want to crown it?
Let's crown it.
CHELSEY DONN (26:12):
Okay, let's crown.
VOICEOVER (26:13):
The Queens are tabulating,
CHELSEY DONN (26:21):
Interesting.
Okay.
I was there.
Okay, so I'm holding up four crowns.
Trey is holding up four and a half crowns.
I feel like I was just talking a lot, Trey.
So why don't you start?
Why did you do four and a half crowns?
TREY GERRALD (26:31):
The only reason I didn't
make it a Review Queen is because
it's not exactly for the service.
But I also get that this is the onlyway to sort of hold Dana accountable,
but it's a little convoluted because
there's so many specific scenarios in
play, but I think it's really impactful.
I said four and a half because ultimately I'mleft feeling unsure about hiring Dana because
it's a little peek into the integrity and
character of this dog walker and, you know,
if I'm gonna give my Dogs to someone's care?
(27:05):
I don't want to see any red flags.
I, and I also think it's queenly toacknowledge, like, I made this error
and I'm sharing so everyone knows.
CHELSEY DONN (27:14):
yeah,
TREY GERRALD (27:15):
It's just not, it
doesn't fit perfectly in a little box.
So I have a hard time saying Review Queen.
Why did you say half less?
Why'd you say four?
CHELSEY DONN (27:23):
I was really struggling
between four and four and a half.
I think my whole brain like kind of swayed duringthis entire interaction and I really got on
Sarah's side in the end and I think I was like
I think four because originally I was thinking
like zero because it was like not really a
review of Rover but now that I'm understanding
it's a review of Dana, I really think it is.
(27:44):
Valuable.
And I think that having this kindof scarlet letter, so to speak, on
Dana's record is, uh, useful and makes
sense and is sort of the very least.
VOICEOVER (27:58):
Total Score, There's a reply!
CHELSEY DONN (28:00):
Okay.
Okay.
TREY GERRALD (28:02):
All right.
So Dana did leave a reply.
So let's just go ahead
CHELSEY DONN (28:06):
my God.
Okay.
Okay.
TREY GERRALD (28:09):
Hi, Sarah.
Yes, you and I got along great and the times I satfor duck, parentheses your puppy, all went great.
Your prior review proves it.
CHELSEY DONN (28:19):
I'll shoot another review.
TREY GERRALD (28:20):
This was my
first time house sitting.
Yes, the severe windstorm destroyed theturf tray, which caused a problem for
Doc to use the bathroom on the deck.
You suggested I take it inside,which I did, but you didn't suggest
I walk him, you just assumed I would.
I wish you would have asked me to do that.
(28:42):
If he's trained to go outside on the deckto use the turf tray, how do I know he also
goes on walks, if you never mentioned it?
As far as the mess and the sink full ofdishes, I think that was your brother.
By the way, you never mentioned to methat the house would be occupied with
someone else while I would be staying
there when I agreed to house sit for you.
(29:07):
Do you know how uncomfortablethat made me as a female?
Knowing there was a man sleeping in the roomnext to me, someone that I didn't know, I
didn't know this until a few days before
your trip when I came to pick up the keys.
If you want to call my quote lengthyquote texts quote spam texts That's fine.
(29:29):
We didn't really go over pricing before youleft, and might I add, it's my job to inform
the pet parent of their dog, cat, slash,
or other pet's health condition, so when
he was throwing up, I had to let you know.
I certainly didn't complain that Iwas cleaning up vomit for eight hours,
Or ask you to end your trip early.
(29:51):
That was your own choice.
Really sorry for all of the miscommunication.
Dot dot dot dot dot dot.
CHELSEY DONN (30:01):
Okay, a lot of ellipses,
so clearly there's, there are things
behind that, that Dana wanted to say.
Okay, this definitely paints a new picture.
TREY GERRALD (30:13):
It adds more information
that Sarah conveniently left out, but I
also think that Dana's a little bitey,
what do you mean you didn't discuss rates?
What?
Also, I do think it's interesting thatthey say this was their first house
CHELSEY DONN (30:27):
what I was gonna say,
TREY GERRALD (30:28):
Yeah, because we did bring that up.
So, okay, so maybe they hadn't offered it before.
Also, the whole thing about, like, Ididn't complain about cleaning up the
vomit for eight hours, like, that sort
of bothers me, because, like, that's your
fucking job, you're being paid to do that.
Also, like, what do you mean, like, youdidn't tell me to take them for a walk?
Like, there are certain things to be implied.
If the animal can't go on, like, I wouldnever hold that against the person hiring
me if you're saying, like, you just
assumed that I would take them for a walk.
(30:54):
You could have asked me to do.
It's like, what do you mean?
It's like, I'm not going to tell my cleaning lady.
CHELSEY DONN (30:58):
you leaving poop or
piss or whatever out on the deck,
like, you should still clean it up.
TREY GERRALD (31:04):
I mean, it sounds
like they were cleaning up vomit,
so they missed the pee and the poop.
I don't know.
What about this whole...
I also, because I know this is probably goingto be a lengthy discussion about the brother,
but I also want to say, Dana reveals their hand
a little bit when they say, I didn't even know
that was happening until a few days before.
It's not like Dana just showedup and the brother was there.
(31:25):
But what do you mean there's a man there?
What?
CHELSEY DONN (31:28):
yeah, it's a little bit interesting,
definitely feels like Sarah was concealing
information to not conceal that because I was very
much under the impression that Sarah was the only
one that lived there and that there was nobody
that could have created that mess besides Dana.
And that was like a major part of the argumentwas like the price thing, obviously, which I still
think is a little bit shady, but the mess factor
is like, and then on top of the fact that I needed
to pay triple the amount or whatever, double the
amount that I thought that I was going to pay,
then you didn't leave my house in proper order.
(32:04):
So,
TREY GERRALD (32:04):
Also, like, I'm assuming
the brother lives with the sister?
Or, like, what does that say about theirrelationship that you, like, A, you're not going
to ask the brother to, like, take care of the dog
because maybe they have a job or whatever, but
then also, you're so concerned about the health
and well being of your animal that you're flying
ho Why aren't you texting with your brother?
Like, oh my god, what's happening?
Like, All of that is just sort ofbackground and like very specific, but
CHELSEY DONN (32:28):
I mean, I don't know why I get the
impression that like the brother doesn't normally
TREY GERRALD (32:32):
because wouldn't they
have interacted with each other
possibly if you've done previous walks?
Maybe not, because if you'rewalking during business hours,
CHELSEY DONN (32:40):
I kind of want to
credit Dana to that for a second.
Like if this is an indoor dog and the ownerdoesn't say take them for a walk and every other
time you've come to the house to play with the
dog or whatever, you never took the dog outside,
maybe you don't know, maybe the dog doesn't have
portatello, maybe it doesn't have lepto, maybe
there's like a reason, like you don't really know.
(33:02):
So I
TREY GERRALD (33:03):
a really good
CHELSEY DONN (33:04):
think that
that's like a fault to Dana.
TREY GERRALD (33:07):
think that if I was the dog
walker and this was all occurring, I would ask,
is it okay, like, it's a little like, I don't
know, I still have this weird sort of like, I,
there's definitely more information from the
reply, obviously my husband read this reply
and everything and still reached out to Dana.
(33:27):
I don't know that I would have because Iwant my, the person in charge of my two
little loved souls that are like helpless,
I want them to be a little more proactive
and intuitive and like not involving me
when I'm on my fucking vacation in Mexico,
CHELSEY DONN (33:43):
You'd want them to let you
know if the dog was like vomiting, wouldn't
TREY GERRALD (33:46):
of course, but also the whole point
again, another point for over is you have to
do these, Pre meetups before any of the things,
so you can meet the animals, see the harness,
all of that, get the background information.
Are they up to date with their shots?
Are they trained to go outside?
What do we do in a worst case scenario?
Like, you do
CHELSEY DONN (34:07):
never addressed
that they went off the app, even
TREY GERRALD (34:10):
I, ooooh,
CHELSEY DONN (34:11):
even knowing that now it's like
their hand was shown, they're on the app, which is
TREY GERRALD (34:16):
That's interesting.
It's an interesting reply becauseI think it's in both hands for me.
I, I see how Dana gets some more pointsback, but I also feel like Dana's response
is a little bit of a turn off to me.
The ellipses, also like, well, you didn'ttell, and like, you just assume, like, all
of that is sort of like, okay, fair, but also
like, you're being hired to provide a service.
(34:39):
Like, can't you do anything intuitive?
CHELSEY DONN (34:41):
yeah, or even say,
TREY GERRALD (34:43):
me more instruction.
CHELSEY DONN (34:45):
say like your place is a mess.
I'm really sorry.
It wasn't me.
Your brother was here.
I tried to clean up everything that I used.
I don't want you to think that Ileft your apartment in a total mess.
TREY GERRALD (34:55):
So we think that Dana's
truthful in saying, blaming the brother.
Thanks
CHELSEY DONN (34:59):
No, I'm saying I'm a little
bit not believing because I feel like if Dana
were being completely honest and none of the
mess was her and all the mess was the brother,
don't you think it's also on Dana to tell
Sarah, like, I'm really sorry your place is
a mess, like, there's a lot of this is your
brother and I tried to clean up my own stuff.
I don't want you to think that I left this mess.
TREY GERRALD (35:18):
That seems to be like a theme here
with Dana for me personally is there's like some
common sense that I would want that isn't showing
up because I would love for them to be like,
just so you know, I did like clean up all of my
stuff and the dishes like those are not mine.
CHELSEY DONN (35:33):
Yeah,
TREY GERRALD (35:34):
Well, how do
we feel now from this reply?
Well, do you feel like you're ready?
Like what do you think?
CHELSEY DONN (35:38):
I think I think we should go
into the crowning and then we can discuss.
TREY GERRALD (35:42):
All right, let's do it.
You
VOICEOVER (35:44):
The queens are tabulating,
Total
CHELSEY DONN (35:51):
Two and a half
crowns, two and a half crowns.
So how do I feel about Dana?
I feel like Dana Earned like two and a half crownsmaybe back of credibility in the sense that you're
adding the factor that there was the brother
there and like Sarah didn't mention that at all.
But do I trust you?
Not a hundred percent other than you saying andadmitting that this was your first time doing
it, which I think is kind of queenly and almost
where the two and a half crowns are coming from.
(36:19):
And I don't know if you meant it to be thatway, but I do appreciate the disclosure.
Other than that, I don't think there's any excusefor you going off app, for you changing your rate
a million times, for you not cleaning up after
the dog, which is within your responsibility.
You can blame the food on the brother, youcan blame some of the mess on the brother,
but you can't really blame poop and urine
that's out on the deck on the brother.
(36:46):
That is under your jurisdiction.
If you're going to be watchingthe dog, you should really be.
Very on top of that, especially if you're gonnadouble the rate on somebody last minute, And
I don't know, based on this response, that I
would feel like Dana is completely trustworthy,
Not gonna give me attitude, not gonna give me
problems, not gonna have the common sense I need.
(37:06):
So for that reason, two and a half crowns.
TREY GERRALD (37:09):
yeah, I just said two and a half
because I appreciate that Dana shared some
excluded information But I ultimately don't
know that the exclusions actually really matter
that much in the narrative potentially because
I'm just Picking up a read that maybe maybe
Dana and I wouldn't be like a match Which,
like, it doesn't matter because it sounds
like she's awesome and she does have a lot.
(37:32):
I mean, her overall score is five.
So there's an impact for me.
So that's why I said two and a half.
CHELSEY DONN (37:36):
This was a fascinating review.
David, thank you for bringingthis to the Queen's attention.
I feel like I went through an entirejourney with this whole experience.
TREY GERRALD (37:47):
It's a little unsettling,
CHELSEY DONN (37:48):
is unsettling.
It's definitely unsettling.
I'm kind of shocked with knowing howspecific and like picky David is with your
dogs that this would be a like a fly zone.
But I guess If it's surrounded by so many fivestar reviews, maybe David's not holding a grudge.
(38:08):
I don't know.
TREY GERRALD (38:09):
Right?
Well, he also probably heard thingsin a different way than we do.
That's very common in our relationship.
He might not have interpretedthe review the way that we did.
So whatever.
Well, we have reached the mostregal portion of our show.
Chelsey, who are you inducting today for?
VOICEOVER (38:26):
Score, My Royal Highness,
CHELSEY DONN (38:27):
Thank you so much for asking.
This is like so funny, Trey.
I swear to God, I could like sharemy screen if we were able to and show
you because we are always so aligned.
It's actually kind of wild.
So today, I want to induct Healthy Spot,which is a pet supply store in Studio City.
I took Goldie to the vet and her vet was tellingme that she actually really wanted her to have a
food that included grain, which there used to be
this whole movement of grain free and then her
vet was like, she needs a more complete diet.
(39:00):
So I called Healthy Spot, spoke to someoneon the phone for like probably 25 minutes
and they gave me like such specific advice.
They answered All of my questionsreassured me a whole thing.
The point is, like, they really gave me somuch attention and so much customer service
without any guarantee that I was actually
going to buy the product from them, right?
(39:21):
Like, I mean, I'm a queen, so I did, butI just thought that was so Amazing, they
took this time to talk to me and guide me
in a direction and this was over the phone
you guys, this was not in person and I
thought that was so queenly and I wanted
TREY GERRALD (39:37):
really queenly,
CHELSEY DONN (39:38):
Healthy Spot for being such queens.
You are my Royal Highness andif you're in LA, check them out.
TREY GERRALD (39:45):
I love it with the bechert,
CHELSEY DONN (39:47):
Yes,
TREY GERRALD (39:48):
well we did it queen,
that is another round on the RUARQ
Ferris Wheel of Dishes in the Sink,
CHELSEY DONN (39:54):
thank you for joining us today.
If you like what you heard, please tell a friend.
TREY GERRALD (39:58):
you did not like what you
heard, please tell an enemy, alright, big day.
CHELSEY DONN (40:02):
This is a big day.
So happy birthday a littlelate to everyone on Patreon.
On this week's after show, you guys, we arerating and reviewing yet another rehearsal
episode that Trey and I did for this show.
So to find out what made Trey say
TREY GERRALD (40:23):
I'm gonna smash a cake in my face.
And to find out what made Chelsey say
VOICEOVER (40:29):
I don't trust Doug any further
than I can throw you and I got a real
bad back so that's a one out of five
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CHELSEY DONN (40:50):
Ignore the haters!
You're a queen!
TREY GERRALD (40:53):
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That's right.
Bye!
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(41:24):
Don't be a ogana.
Call the kvetch line today.
CHELSEY DONN (41:29):
Whew, I feel like the
lesson of the day is don't go off the app.
TREY GERRALD (41:33):
Don't go off app.
CHELSEY DONN (41:34):
Don't go off app, you guys.
Scary.
TREY GERRALD (41:37):
Hey, congratulations on 101
CHELSEY DONN (41:41):
Aww, congratulations to you, Trey.
I can't wait to hop on overthere and embarrass myself.
TREY GERRALD (41:47):
Let's go make
that 101st episode right now.
Queens, we'll see you on Friday.
Bye.
CHELSEY DONN (41:53):
Yes.
Bye!