November 4, 2021 • 25 mins
When Lorde was growing up in New Zealand, the music David Byrne made with Talking Heads opened her mind to all of the ways - some wonderful, some strange - that you could express yourself in a pop song. Byrne, for his part, is a big Lorde fan. The two sat down in Brooklyn this summer to talk about the secret to writing a deep pop song, life without social media and even the best way to eat a grapefruit.
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