Body Speaks: Understanding the Mind-Body Connection with Evette Rose - SUMMER REBOOT - Episode 287 - Sandy K Nutrition - Health & Lifestyle Queen

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Today with me, I have a specialguest.
Her name is Evette Rose and sheis a counselor and author of 19
books, trauma recovery leader inpsychosomatics, founder of
Metaphysical Anatomy, youtuberand speaker.
Evette strives to support peoplein their healing journeys and

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she is the founder ofMetaphysical Anatomy Technique.
Yvette is best known for herwork in helping people recover
from the trauma of their past,as well as addressing
psychosomatic symptoms andfreeing them to live successful
and fulfilling lives.
She's internationally famouslyknown for writing Metaphysical

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Anatomy, volume 1, a book of 722medical ailments and their
psychosomatic patterns, and, ofcourse, I have that book and
today we are going to bediscussing what metaphysical
anatomy is and we're going to doa deep dive on some of the
meanings behind some verycommonly known diseases.

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This is going to be such agreat conversation because most
of you who listen to my podcastyou know I'm a big believer in
the emotional side to healingand I don't think that we can
properly heal unless we reallyaddress that.
So I'm excited for thisconversation and I just want to
welcome you, yvette.

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Thank you so much for comingtoday.

Evette Rose (03:06):
Thank you so much for having me.
Thank you so much for having meand thank you for that warm
introduction.
I feel quite at home right now.

Good, good, and you know, I think it's very
important because I, of course,I have my copy right here.
This is, you could see all mylittle tabs.
It's like my little Bible.
I often refer to it becausemost people know I am a holistic

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nutritionist.
But I, you know, I wish I couldchange it to whole, as a
W-H-O-L-E as instead of H-O-L-E,right, Because I believe we
need to look holistically at allaspects to our wellness.
So I have to ask you it's veryimportant that we understand how

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you got on this path.

That is a big question, so I'm going to narrow
it down because I think, as youprobably know, no one's life
story is short, right, we allhave our bumps and mountains and
Kilimanjaro's islands andeverything.
So what's really funny actuallyis, right off the bat, I never
wanted to do what I'm doingtoday.

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I never envisioned myself doingthis at all.
My dream was to become a crimescene investigator and I wanted
to become a lawyer, so much sothat I actually studied it.
I studied it for one year andthen I ran out of money and I
had to let it go.
But prior to that I studiedbusiness management.

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So I went back into businessmanagement and I worked in the
head offices.
You know, in these construction,petrochemical, mining, you know
sites and head offices so veryheavily masculine, male
dominated.
You almost had to have balls,you know, to survive in these
environments.
It's like there's no space forfemininity.
So my femininity I discovered,you know, way, way, way back in

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my life.
Femininity I discovered way,way, way back in my life.
And so what was interesting waswhat I didn't realize at the
time was the reason why I wantedto become a crime scene
investigator and a lawyer wasbecause it was that little girl,
that inner child that needed tounderstand and bring the pieces
of the puzzle together of whyall the things happened in my
life.
You know who was to blame, whoneeds to be prosecuted, who

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needs to be brought to justice,because I never got my justice.
I never got my justice, and sobecause of this, you know, I had
a very, very toxic relationshipwith my dad, and I'm the only
child.
So, whatever it is thathappened, whatever it is that
was done, it was just towards me.
There was no one else to shareit with, and my mom was the

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peacekeeper in the house andalways trying to just manage and
balance everything.
And so my dad was actually aclinically diagnosed sociopath.
He was an alcoholic and he wasa drug addict, and so people
always ask me well, how do youknow that?
Because you know how a lot ofpeople just these days on social
media, just like, well, thatperson's a narcissist, that
person's that, like everyone,now suddenly has the right to

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diagnose, just because they seeone symptom.
I lived my whole life to seethis and I actually, you know,
back in the days when we hadlike we're all over 40s, right?
So we all back in the days whenwe had these cassette tapes,
when you would record yourfavorite song for your friends
and make like a happy tape and alove tape.
And so I had one of these tapes.
I found one and I saw my dad'sname, barry, on it and I thought

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, oh, let me just see what's init.
Maybe I can record over it,cause, you know, the radio was
playing on my favorite song.
So I was sitting there waitingto record the favorite song and
then I heard my dad and he'spsychologist talking, and so I
just happened to hit that pointwhere he was diagnosed with this
condition and I had to go thereand went to the library Back

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then we didn't have Google Iwent to the library and I'm
looking what is this?
And it's like these pinballsthat bing, bing, bing, bing,
bing.
It all just came together.
Now I understood why he couldn'temotionally relate to
everything that I'm doing andsaying, why there was never
remorse, why there was never anapology, why we were speaking

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two completely differentlanguages.
Because let me tell you to talkto someone who doesn't have the
emotional capacity to evengrasp what you're saying when
you're pleading or when you'rearguing, when you're trying to
get out of a situation whenyou're being beaten up.
There's no guilt.
There's no guilt, and that wastough.

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And your father holds theposition of how we see the world
as women.
Our relationship with ourfather determines if our
confidence is going to come froma fight space or from a place
of confidence and feeling I feelworthy of being received by the
world as I am.
So if that relationship isbroken, it means that you are

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going to most inevitably becomethe chameleon and always try to
mold and fit in and bend yourboundaries, bend your identity,
mold and morph yourself in andout of every different situation
.
Now, mom is a whole different,other story, but I'm talking
specifically about dad becausethat's where the pain point was.
He's the reason why I am whereI am today and I'm thankful for

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that now, but back then I wasnot.
He's the reason why I am whereI am today and I'm thankful for
that now, but back then I wasnot.
So he was the alcoholic withthe Bible under his arm and
always threatened.
You know, god, this.
You know psychics are bad.
You know he was part of achurch movement where they would
even walk down the streets andthey would go and shut down
psychic stalls.
You know this was like to thiswhole world of where I am in now
was completely taboo.

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You know, this was the wiring ofmy childhood foundation and my
relationship with him wasconsistently mirrored in my
relationships with men, eventhough I could see and feel that
this man's violent, this man'sdrinking.
Why am I with him?
Why am I not leaving thisrelationship?

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It's because the familiaritywas the core foundation of what
I had with my father, becausethat's what we tend to drive
towards, even though consciouslywe can see it's not good for us
.
But we gravitate toward thatplace of comfort, right?
So we learn to feel comfortable, feeling uncomfortable.
And because that was part of mychildhood foundation, my

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definition of love equaled abuse.
So, even though consciously wethink we see this disney story,
what you align with and what youfeel attracted with is what's
going to be the subconsciousprogramming, which is the abuse.
It doesn't consciously makesense, but that's how the wiring
of the body and the mind works.
And this is one of the corereasons why a lot of people
don't heal and why my healingjourney was so far beyond

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extended is because I didn'theal my underlying associations
that I had with love, that I hadwith health.
So many people come to me andthey say, yvette, I want to get
better, I want to get my healthon track and I want to get this
element, rid of this element.
And I tell them okay, name thefive top things in your life
that's most important.
They will mention everythingexcept their health.

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And I'm sitting there and I'mlike so you want to work on your
health, right?
How are you going to value itif it's not even in your top
five right now?
You're not going to value it.
If it's not even in your topfive right now, you're not going
to keep your energy on that.
That's why you're not dedicatedto losing weight.
That's why you're not dedicatedto your exercise plan because
you don't value it.

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The reason why we don't valuethe things that's most important
, that we often need to value inorder to get better, is because
we're in survival mode.
We don't see the long-termbenefit of how certain things
can help us if we just rip offthat band-aid, that temporary
discomfort, because we've wiredour lives around instant

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gratifications, around copingmechanisms, and these coping
mechanisms create more secondarygains along the path, more
coping strategies along the path.
So it's not just about hittingthat root core trauma.
You need to clean up thesealmost like this, like this,
these neural pathways, theselittle dendrites.
We need to also go and clean upthese little, you know,

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branches.
That goes off of the coretrauma as well.
So this is what happened withme in my path.
So as I reached the age of I wasaround 22, 23, when I hit my
pain point and when I say painpoint, my health was so bad I
ate a chop chip biscuit.
This was my diet coffee andbiscuits and chips.

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In the morning, right After twohours of vigorous cardio
exercise, starting four o'clockin the morning, I was in the
office at 8 am and smokingcigarettes, and sometimes my
nervous system was so wired, Iwas so stressed I would have a
shot of vodka just to calm downbecause the exercise wasn't
enough.
And I remember I was biting onthis biscuit and what?

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This back tooth literally splitin half.
I literally took half of thetooth out.
That is how malnourished I was,that's how brittle my bones
were at that age and for me thatwas a wake-up call.
I'm like, wow, I don't thinkthis is normal, but this is the
lack of awareness, right?
Because I didn't value numberone, my health.

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I was in survival mode and Iwas working extremely long hours
and I was fighting a battlewith a very abusive partner at
that time, and so that's whereit started for me.
But what was worse was thedepression.
It was this gripping anxiety,suffocating anxiety that I was

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struggling with, and it startedto roll over into a point where
you wake up one morning and youjust think what am I doing?
What am I doing?
I'm doing the same thing everyday and there's no results.
The same goddamn thing.
What is the point?
And when we all start to hitthat place, when we ask what is

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the point, what is the point?
And when we all start to hitthat place, when we ask what is
the point, and you've run, andyou feel like you've run through
all your resources, that's whenmy thoughts became really dark
and that's when that I call itthe black depression, because it
really feels like there's noway out, and I started.
I dropped into a very, very badsuicidal depression and I got to
the point where I woke up onemorning and I said to my partner

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at the time I said listen, Idon't feel well, I'm not going
to go to work, you go and I'llsee you later.
But that was the morning when Idecided to end it and I left
the voice message on my projectmanager's phone with all my
password, with all my projectsand everything that I was
working on.
And I was a stellar employee.
I was working three people'sjobs because I made sure that
they couldn't fire me because Imoved from South Africa to

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Australia.
I was in Australia at this timeand I didn't want to go back to
South Africa, so I gave it myall and I was holding quite a
lot of important roles and Iknew my safety was secured.
I would not be sent back toSouth Africa.
And I left the voice messagefor her.
And back then, when we had thesebig dial computers with these

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clunky keyboards and I rememberwhen he was gone and I had my
second shot of vodka, I satthere with my cigarette.
I was smoking 30 cigarettes aday at this point and I smoked
there and I typed in, you know,thinking how can I end this in a
very graceful way?
I don't like pain, I just wantit to be done.
And I was so clear in my headit was almost like there was
nothing that could convince me.
I was so clear.

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This was it, but to this day Idon't fully know what it was.
But just as I was about to typeand I was thinking it was here
in my mouth and I remember theash fell down and I was sitting
there and I'm cigarette was herein my mouth and I remember the
ash fell down and I was sittingthere and I'm typing and I
wanted to type how to end it andthen this voice it's not a
clear audio voice Like you'rehearing me now.
It's a voice.

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It was a clear audio voice.
It's not a voice Like you'rehearing me now.
Sorry, I switched it and itsaid you're asking the wrong
question.
You need to type how to behappy and not how to end this.
And as I was sitting there, I'mthinking that's a good point,
because why is other peoplearound me happy?

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Happiness exists.
It's just not for me.
So what is it that other peopleare doing to have access to
this?
There has to be a way for me,and I think my saving grace was
my competitiveness.
I'm a very competitive person.
If I see someone doingsomething and I'm like I want
that too.
I'm not going to go after whatthey're doing, but I'm going to

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see how can I cultivate that inmy own private life, for myself
in my own way.
And that part of me now wastriggered, and I think for me
that was my turnaround, becausein order for a person to turn
around, determination is stillneeded.
But also it's that I want that.
I want it.

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So now it's the question howmuch do you want it?
And so now there was the carrotand the stick and my motivation
started to lift.
And when I Googled that, listen,I went from being raised
Christian to being an atheistand I was an atheist.
As I was looking at that screenand you know what came up on my
screen Dorian Virtue, when shewas still practicing right
Crystals, neil Donald Walsh.

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And I'm like is this a joke?
I have to do this to be happy.
Really, I almost felt offendedand I sat there and I'm thinking
well, I don't have the answer.
So who am I now to questionwhat I'm seeing on my screen?
That's how unresourceful I feltand I started clicking and I

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started okay, I'm going to givethis a shot.
So I bought the Neil DonaldWalsh books Conversations with
God and started to go throughthat and explore Dorian Virtue,
explore energy healing.
What is this?
What is this concept of energyhealing?
Let me tell you, three monthslater, my life turned around 360
degrees.
I gave it my all, 360 degrees.

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I gave it my all and I saw theshifts.
I saw the changes.
I, as a person, completelychanged to the point where I'm
like I'm going to do this fulltime.
I want to show other people howyou can turn it around as well.
And that's exactly what I did.
I quit my job after threemonths and I remember when I

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walked out of that corporatedoors and I looked back and I'm
like you're never going to seeme again.
Nowhere around the world areyou ever going to see me again.
And I made a successfulbusiness.
I met a business partner, put afew videos on YouTube with the
work that I was working on andthe intellectual property and
went viral.
And we were booked out foryears across the world.

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So my life literally went frombeing an atheist to three months
of just absolute determination,just absolute dedication, of
how did you do that?
I wanted to feel the how and Ifound out the how, but in my own
way.
What worked for me?
Because I noticed certainthings work to a certain point

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and then it stops working andthen we switch, then we look for
something else, right?
So everything serves a purpose,every technique serves a
purpose, everything has itsplace.
And as I started to travelaround the world, that book that
you just showed this is thekids version, but this book I
didn't plan on writing it I justnoticed a lot of people have

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the same complaint with the sameissue and they go like did you
see Louise Hay's book?
Did you see this book?
Did you see that book?
I'm like, oh, but it's alreadydone.
Why should I do this?
And even my ex-business partnersaid you're an absolute fool
for writing that book.
People are going to thinkyou're an idiot.
No one's going to buy it.
Yeah, straight up, just likethat.
And I sat there I'm thinking,okay, well, at least he had a
point.
And then I asked the questionwhat did they write about?

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That's missing?
What is missing?
And so I filled the gaps.
And that's why the book isdoing so well, because there's
no point reinventing the wheel.
What is your new message?
You need to have a new message.
And I did that and so, and thenthis book was just.
You know, I got.

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I wrote this book because Ibecame frustrated with everyone
asking me hey, yvette, so I havethis thing on my throat.
What is?
What does it mean?
You know, the students comingto me and I and I and I I'm like
I had to keep repeating myself.
So I thought, okay, so thisbook started out being as a
manual and then I transformed itinto an actual book.
Yeah, it was a manual, it waspart of a workshop, and so I I

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made a book of it and I'm like,there you go.
I don't want to answer youquestions anymore.

So, okay, it's just , it's an amazing story and it
is an amazing book, so it soundslike you went through.
I mean, I call it the darknight of the soul.

Oh yeah.

And and and often it's where people really come to
a realization that their livesreally need to change.
Oh, yeah, so I know, I wentthrough that back in my 40s and
it's dark times, it's not fun,and then you start to.

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But when you start to seek,that's when the healing can
begin, and this is why Iconsider myself a lifelong
learner.
It never ends and I'm alwaysgoing to learn something new and
I'm always going to seek otheranswers.
So I love you know, it's thehero's journey, right?

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Yeah, it's the hero's journey,right, yeah, it's the hero's
journey.
So I have to ask you about yourfather, how first thing I think
is really important that I askyou do you think we ever really
completely heal, or do the scarsjust fade?

That's a great question because, at the end of
the day, healing is what helpsthe scars to fade.
Because, number one, when westart to heal, where's your
focus?
Your focus is now beingsolution orientated, because
when we are in a state ofproblem and pain and distress
and wounds, and we're in thatplace, we're now in the

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vibration of feeling like avictim and it's okay to feel
like a victim.
That's a very much neededprocess.
We need to go in because whenwe feel like a victim, it means
I'm acknowledging and I'mfeeling and I'm seeing the pain
that I've been through and I'mhonoring this right now.

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So I'm using the word victimbecause this is the best word
that a lot of people can relateto.
We've all been in that placewhere I call it my pity party
and sometimes, when I feel likea victim and my husband's like,
why are you like this?
I'm like, listen, I'm having mypity party right now and you're
not invited, yeah, just likethat.
And I say it in a funny way,but so that he can digest the

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the, the hand.
You know, I need space rightnow so that he can digest it in
a funny way.
But he knows when I say that Imean it, I absolutely mean it,
and this is me now just needingto be in that state of like.
I'm feeling my wounds, I'macknowledging my wounds, I'm
being with them right now andit's okay to have them.
But when you stay in that statefor longer than six months now,

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you run the course of itbecoming part of your identity.
Being a victim is meant to be apassing phase, like seasons,
just like any other emotion, andit's important that we allow
space for that.
But it's also important that wedon't become stuck in that,
because you cannot and you willnot heal when you are in victim

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mode.
Why?
Because now you are not in yourstate of empowerment.
Your state of empowermentBecause when you are being a
victim or you feel like one, thebody is in a state of I can't,
I need to hide, I need tohibernate, I need to draw within
, I need to pull my energy back.

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The body's not in healing mode.
When the body goes into healingmode, it means that the body's
now open and ready to be rewired, to regulate itself, to look at
new ways of living.
It's enthusiastic, it'spositive, it feels ready to move
towards a solution.
So, being a victim and movingtowards a solution.
It's the opposite frequencies.
It's either or that's it.
You can't be in both at thesame time.

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It's either or that's it.
You can't be in both at thesame time.
So that's why, when you feelthat you're in victim mode, be
in that, yes.
But then we need to make aconscious shift.
Okay, I feel I'm a bit donewith that now.
Now it's just holding me back.
And when you feel held back inlife, when you feel trapped,
when you feel things arerepetitive, when you feel like I

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don't want to do this anymore,that's your body saying hey, I'm
ready.
Yes, let's flip the switch.
Let's now switch consciously tobeing solution orientated, and
that's a very powerful state ofmind to be in, because when
you're solution orientated, nowwe start to see the solutions.
Now we start to see thepossibilities because we're open

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to it.
Because when we are in pityparty mode, our energy is
withdrawn.
Our filters are completelydifferent as well.
So the question that you ask isa really good question.
The body will only heal and yes, we can heal but it will only
heal if it feels safe.

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If you don't feel safe in yourlife, if you don't feel safe in
relationship to the topic thatyou're trying to address.
Your body is going to rejectthe healing.
Your nervous system is notgoing to regulate itself.
It only regulates itself whenit's healed.
That's why, when a lot ofpeople who've been through very

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traumatic past, when they have avery calm, a very loving who've
been through very traumaticpasts, when they have a very
calm, a very loving, a verygentle partner, these people
heal in that relationship.
They actually heal because theyfeel safe, because that other
person is learning and teachingthem that it's safe to be you,
it's safe to be in a state ofdistress, it is safe to express

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in a state of distress, it issafe to express.
So safety is one of the core,core, key factors in order to
really truly, truly heal.
Where there can be asubconscious memory of the
distress, but the nervous system, the body and the physiology of
the body doesn't react to itanymore.
The body and the physiology ofthe body doesn't react to it
anymore.
Is it 100% clear?
I personally don't think so.
I think you can get it down toat least 80%, maybe at least,

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maybe 90%, but to the pointwhere you feel at peace, where
you feel contentment, that forme is the place of power because
let me just quickly also touchon this very briefly, because
this is important If you have acertain trauma that you
experienced that maybe triggereda certain ailment and that
emotion that you, within you,dealt with right Now, you
brought it down, the trigger ofthat.

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If you can do it so well thatyou continue to pass on the
solution to your futuregenerations, at least to 100 to
200 years, you can really trulyswitch that epigenetic switch
off.
You can switch it off andresearch has shown this.
Dr Gabor Mati I think he was Idon't know if I'm correct me, if
I'm wrong, but I think he'seven the one that you know that

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touched briefly on that.
I'm taking this now to a bit ofan extended level, but I think
he was the one that brieflytouched on that.
And there's so much power inthat because we, as a species,
we're actuallysolution-orientated.
Why it's a survival responseDespite the fact that we're
negative bias, we're stillsolution-orientated.

Yeah, so there's a couple of things there.
It yeah, so there's a couple ofthings there, I know.
I think you're right aboutgabar mate.
And then there's other, there'sother aspects to that, about
generational trauma and how youknow, I or my, what is it?
My mom.
Now I would have been in thewomb of my grandmother as one of

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the eggs in my mom, right,because at four months as a
fetus we already have all of oureggs, right?
So that would mean part of mewas in my grandmother, in my
grandmother.
And so what you're saying,you're right, it has already
been proven.
And I've read I don't know ifyou know Mark Woolin, it Didn't
Start With you.

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He talks about generationaltrauma and I find it all very
fascinating how we can really dothe healing ourselves.
But I want to get back to thiswhole subconscious side, because
you kind of touched on it and Ifind it really fascinating
because, what is it?

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80 or 90% of our thoughts aresubconscious.

Is that right?
Yeah, I think they said about90,000 thoughts are subconscious
and then about 70,000 arerepeated the next day.
But the ones that are repeatedthe next day are often the
negative ones, because we're sonegative biased so it's
constantly being filtered fromthe negative perspective, right,
because that's what we oftenget hooked on is that sad

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negative feeling.
It's being carried over intothe next day.
And then what happens?
You're in that negative state.
Your RAS, your RecticularActivating System, is then set
to look for things that willalign with how you feel,
including people andcircumstances.
That's why you can't even seethat this.
Oh, look at that beautiful sun,look at these kids laughing and
playing.
That is so wonderful.

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You can't even take it inbecause your RAS is now focused
on filtering in and out what itis that your subconscious mind
is focused on.

So it's powerful.
It is because, so I have done alot of work on helping, I guess
, clear out some subconsciousbeliefs.
You know I can.
I can talk about one of mine.
I don't have a thyroid and Ihad thyroid cancer when I was 41

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.
So my subconscious programmingand this is programming that
came we know, thyroid is themaster gland for metabolism I've
always been a very, very smallperson and my subconscious
programming was well, now I'mgoing to just gain weight, I'm
going to get fat, I'm going togo through menopause and I'm

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going to get fat.
And I actually had to do a lotof work on that because it was
almost like it was programmedwithin me.
Like it was programmed withinme.
So how does?
Is that where metaphysicalanatomy comes in, where you can

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kind of tap into some of thoseprograms that are maybe causing
you?

to vibrate at a certain level.
It's kind of like what you'resaying Absolutely.
So here's the thing, how I seethis with the people that I've
interviewed and worked with.
We have thoughts.
Now, thoughts is not theproblem.
It is if you have an underlyingunresolved trauma that is in
resonance with a negativethought that you have, which now

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blows it up and empowers it.
That's why some thoughts arefleeting and others, like boom,
they stay and they stick andthey become stronger and they
become more ingrained.
So did the trauma cause athought or did the thought come
and now exasperate anothertrauma?
It can go either way.
It's not always, for me, frommy personal experience, always

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100% connected.
It depends on the person.
So it's really about looking atthe thought, which also now
could be showing the distressthat you were going through.
At that time you were not inyour most empowered state, right
?
I can only imagine if I wereyou, I would feel, for example,
vulnerable.
And so when we are in thatstate of disempowerment, or

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maybe feeling challenged, maybefeeling sad, feeling stressed,
negative thoughts are, of course, more likely to come and
exacerbate certain priorunresolved traumas, which could
be perhaps, maybe the reason whythe ailment was there, meaning
the psychosomatic side of it.
So all of this as an example.

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I'm completely making up ahypothetical right now of how it
could potentially work, but Ido hope that that helps.
Does that answer your question?
Yeah, it does.

It does, and I think that you know that's
interesting.
It's almost like you're sayingyou know we have all these like
thoughts, but then if there's'sbecause you know how it is, like
I don't know about you, yvette,but like I totally have monkey
brain, like my brain's going amile a minute all the time, but

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if there's a trauma that'sactually associated with that
thought, that gives it power andit gives it that vibration that
makes actually a lot of sensewhat you're saying.

Because that's what it anchors it in and it makes
it feel more.
And then the physiology of thebody now starts to really truly
react because there is an actualmemory that it's anchored into.
So that's why a thought canbecome and start to feel so
physical, like the anxiety, theheart palpitation.
It can trigger the survivalresponses.

So you know you talked on victim consciousness.
I have to say I really agreewith you.
So not that I have to, but whenyou say sometimes we need to go
through it and we need to movethrough that phase, I totally
resonate with that.
But there's a lot of people whocan't get past it.

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So here's, here's aninteresting concept.
So I talk a lot about thesnowball effect, right, you know
how you, everybody's met thatone person.
It's like, like there's alwaysa disaster going on in their
lives, right, like we've all metthose people, right.

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And you're like, oh, my god, isanything ever good?
Is anything ever okay?
Is that?
Because it's like I guess,guess it would be.
You know, you mentioned safety.
Maybe that person's not feelingsafe.
They have a lot of thesetraumas they have.
They're vibrating low, like Idon't know Like what causes that

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?

That's a really great question.
Now, the challenge that I'veseen.
You know, when I wrote thesebooks and I thought it was 6,000
, it's almost like 7,000 peoplethat I've interviewed and worked
with now and what I noticed,the pattern with them is that
there's a subconscious addictionto the cortisol.
There is an addiction toneeding the stress in order for

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them to perform and to act,because when we go into that
state of distress, it's almostlike you go into a high, and
especially when you're in thatstate of distress and you
overcome the challenge, itreleases dopamine.
So what we're actually becomingaddicted to is dopamine, but
through a toxic channel.
Instead of dopamine, maybethrough food, which is another
toxic channel, but this toxicchannel of the adrenaline can

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actually your thoughts, can killyou at the end of the day,
because when you're in thatstate of distress, what's
happening?
Your immune system is underdistress and all this energy is
being pulled from the immunesystem.
So now comes all these virusesand bacteria and they're having
a party in your body because theimmune system's like I'm too
tired to deal with you and thenwe get sick.

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So this is another example ofpeople who you know the disaster
it might look like a disasterto you.
They might, you know, say, oh,but this is so bad, this, this,
this, that.
But internally, there's a partof them that feels very
comfortable with this discomfort.
There's a part of them that'svery happy, feeling unhappy
because that's their association.

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That is the connection thatthey made with the state of
distress.
And also, normally what happensis when a person starts to grow
up in a household and thatfoundation is always stressful,
it's very hostile.
That cortisol, that state ofdistress, actually makes a

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person feel safe, because thenyou're ready to act and react at
any given time.
These people will go into anabsolute state of panic,
full-blown panic.
If you have to put them in acalm and relaxing environment,
they might sit there and go, oh,this is nice, but maybe after
10, 15 minutes it's going to hitthem and the panic is actually

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going to increase because theydon't know how to feel safe.
Feeling safe, wow, they don'tknow how to feel safe, feeling
safe.
They don't feel safe to relax.
They don't feel safe to feelhappy.

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Why?
Because now I'm in the oppositeframe of mind of being of the
normal state that I'm used to.
That could save my life, thatcan help me to achieve my goals.
That can help me to feel like Iam alive.
Now I'm cut off from mydopamine because the wiring of
dopamine is not set to beachieved through relaxation.

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It's been set to be achievedthrough stress.

So it's an addiction.
It's an addiction to feel thatway.

Consciously.
Yes, it's not like someone who,consciously, maybe, now starts
to take drugs and then boom, nowit becomes an addiction, but
it's like the body starts tolook for that access point to
the dopamine.
So what do I need to do inorder to get to that Chaos drama
?
Who's going to give it to me?
All these toxic people, allthese toxic circumstances?

do you believe that when you're in that kind of a
state, you can subconsciouslybring okay, we know you talked
about the illness, that's likewhat your book is about right,
but can you bring accidents andother things about when you're
vibrating in that state?
What do you think?

so that's a really great question.
So from what I've seen withpeople who are in car accidents
or they're accident prone, isthat often what happens is maybe
they had an argument withsomeone the day before or they
had a certain negative thoughtand it makes them actually feel
destabilized.
You'll see, every single timewhen someone had an accident,

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something destabilized them.
Your focus is not where itneeded to be, because if it was,
most things maybe could havebeen avoided.
Now I understand, sometimesfreak accidents happen and there
was absolutely nothing that youcould do about.
Now I'm not referring to thatjust to be absolutely clear.
But sometimes when you askpeople how they felt on the

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morning of the accident, therewas a sense of something that
destabilized the innerequilibrium.
Something caused them to feeloff balance and in a lot of
cases I've seen negativethoughts.
Now we all have negativethoughts on a daily basis.
So why is it that a negativethought can cause me to have
that?
When the body has reached itsthreshold for dealing and

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handling with this negativethought, you can have a negative
thought on quite a regularbasis.
But have you noticed on somedays that negative thought just
hits you and it hits you hard.
You almost feel like youemotionally just tumble into an
even worse place because of thatone thought that you have on a
regular basis.
That's what I'm talking.
I'm referring to the thresholdthat the body has to protect

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itself or to deal or to handleor to remanence with a certain
negative thought and theemotional distress that it
brings up.
Right, it becomes exhausting.
It's exhausting to havenegative thoughts all the time.
That's why we have fatigue,that's why we have adrenal
burnout, that's why you get theflu.

So what about grief ?
Where does grief come into allof this?
Because you know, we're talkingabout like kind of our
vibration.
Like I'll tell you when my dogpassed away, there's people who
don't have pets and they don'tget it, but when you have a pet,

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that is always there and I'm abig believer that they really
help to absorb energy.
For us, I feel like they'revery spiritual creatures.
Now, when I lost my dog, I wasin a state of grief for a very
long time.
It was hard for me.
So does that mean I'm, you know, vibrating lower?

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Does that mean I'm more proneto illnesses or accidents or
things like that?

There's a possibility and the reason why I
would say that is because lookwhere your focus and awareness
is.
It's with the grief.
It's being pulled away fromother areas of focus.
That's why it's hard to healwhen you're in a problem state,
when you are in problem mode,because it's pulling all your
focus and your energy there Inorder to heal.
When you're in a problem state,when you are in problem mode,
because it's pulling all yourfocus and your energy there In
order to heal, our focus andawareness needs to be more

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expanded in order to be open toreceive possibilities, to
receive people and circumstancesand to align with solutions
that we can resonate with and torecognize the resonance of that
, in order to feel drawn to that.
So absolutely.
And I so deeply relate to whatyou said because when I was 29,

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I had a German shepherd that wasonly six months old and I had
to let him go and I fought sohard to keep him alive.
He was just born with such badgenes but that dog opened up my
heart.
That dog showed me what it feltlike to love and to be loved.
And when I had to let him goand I was holding him in that
vet and when he gave his lastbreath, I had a heart attack.

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That is how severe my grief was.
Here I'm in the car off to thehospital.
You actually had a heart attack.
Yeah, oh my God, yvette, fromgrief, from grief, and this is a
medical term as well.
It's called the broken heart.
Yes, yeah, it's a medical term.
This is a fact.

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And it was so severe and it andyou know it took me.
I think this happened in 2012.
I think it took me a good nineyears to really fully let go of
that, yeah, to really truly talkabout it now and not have a

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breakdown.
Yeah, right, do I feel thesadness coming up?
I feel it right here now, butit's healed now to the point
where I feel content to talkabout it.
Because, when I looked at, whatdid this dog give me that I
couldn't have in my life withoutit?
Safety and love, safe love.

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And what was funny andinteresting is the dog was male,
safe, masculine, male love.
Yeah, took me a while to put ittogether.
And then, when I started toheal the distress of the absence
of this in my life, meaning myfather, because biologically
we're actually wired to look forthat masculine safety, because

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the father is the leader.
When you look at the history ofour ancestors, the father is
the leader.
When you look at the history ofour ancestors, the father is
the source of protection.
We're biologically wired toconnect our source of safety to
that.
The father is absent, of course, then the mother takes that as
a substitute.
But when I started to tap onthat, that's when the grief

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started to lessen, and more andmore and more lessened.

When you became aware.

Right, You're saying you became aware of that,
but I also healed.
I started to really consciouslynow heal the absence, because
what I realized is that was thegrief that I felt for the dog,
was the grief that I also hadfor not having the father that I
needed to have, and when Itapped on that, it had this

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dominoes effect into reallyfully healing the grief of
losing that dog.
That dog was such a catalyst,such a catalyst in my healing
and I believe that sometimeshumans, people that we have soul
contracts with, our soul familycan come in the form of animals

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.
Because I will never forgetthis, I had a dream about that
dog sitting in the bathtub andthen suddenly transforming into
a human being, into a man withblack hair that I looked at from
behind and then became the dogagain and I woke up that morning
.
I'm thinking this was before Ibelieved in any of this right.
I didn't believe in this at thatpoint.
I'm like, what was that about?

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And that same day the dog cameinto my office which he's never
done before and he sat on mychair across from my desk and he
jumped on and he sat there likethis and he just looked at me
for five minutes still and thenjumped off and he walked out.
And I'm like now if some of youmight sit there and wonder,

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well, what's the significance ofthat Like he's never done that.
That's a chair that my clientswould normally come and sit in
and he's never done that.
And just that night I had thatdream.
I feel so many signs werearound me and this was also the
catalyst, because that was whenI was my ex-husband at that time

(45:28):
, which was not a healthyrelationship, and all this just
started to come together and asI healed that marriage fizzled
out and everything, just it wasthis complete catharsis collapse
of everything that I had andowned.
When I started to heal that,Because everything that I felt
drawn to became extremelyunattractive- to become

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extremely unattractive.

So do you think that?
Okay, you know, we kind oftouched on the victim
consciousness?
When you're in that state, it'salmost like you have to be
there for a while and then youkind of open up.
You start to open and you startto see signs that you would
have not seen before.
Does that make sense?

Absolutely, because your filters shift.
I went from feeling like avictim to feeling more stronger,
more empowered.
And when you start to move intoa state of empowerment, you
start to A lot of people.
When they do that, they noticethat they start to feel angrier,
they start to feel moreirritated.
They go like, oh, this healingis uncomfortable.
No, what's uncomfortable is youneeding to start to feel
comfortable with your boundaries, because that anger is showing
you how much your boundarieshave been overstepped.

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It's showing you how yourthreshold has been hit again and
again and again and again.
And that anger is there to showyou it's enough, stop it.
It needs to come to an end now.
Now we need to take action andturn it around and change it,
and not just passively sit thereand observe.
So this is something that Istarted to notice also in my own

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healing journey as well.
When you have had a lowself-esteem your whole life,
you've had poor boundaries, allof this is suddenly going to
start to feel reallyuncomfortable.
It's going to feeluncomfortable to ask for what
you want, but there's a part ofyou that's going to feel like I
need to say this.
But I feel uncomfortable.
There's a part of me that needsto say this but I feel
uncomfortable.
Entertain that part of you thatneeds to say it Be okay with

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feeling uncomfortable, becauseit's normal to feel
uncomfortable diving into acertain new area that you've
never explored before.
It's normal.

I know, with the thyroid there's a lot of
connections to not speaking yourtruth.
Not, you know, a lot of peopleknow this about the thyroid
because it's your throat chakra,right.
So I now look what I'm doing.
I'm a podcaster, I'm like,whereas I grew up in a very

(47:57):
strict Eastern Europeanbackground.
You know I was.
I have very loving parents.
I'm grateful for that, but youknow it was always being.
You know you don't say this.
You have to be proper.
The family is always like this,you don't.
You know you don't talk.
What is it Like?
You know, talk about thingsthat are private matters.

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And and now I talk abouteverything, yvette, like you
know, and I'm, I'm living andspeaking my truth, but I guess
you know you might have adifferent person and personality
where speaking my truth.
But I guess you know you mighthave a different person and
personality where speaking yourtruth didn't matter, but to me
it did.
So you know, kind of beingclosed off.

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Well, you can probably say thatmight be one causative factor.

Yeah, exactly, and the thyroid's also about what I
cannot control.
Oh yeah, feeling always in astate of loss of control and
having to fight for control,that's also the thyroid.
That's why you have a lot ofpeople with thyroid problems
also having adrenal problems yes, I did, I had uh, oh, yeah, but

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that's where it began.
Oh, you did.
Yeah, you see is almost.
For me it's a given whensomeone has thyroid.
I know, okay, how's youradrenals doing?

No, you're right, Because it was the adrenals
postpartum after my second childwas born.
That's where things started tohappen.
But what I didn't mention, mydaughter was diagnosed with
cancer one year before meExactly, almost exactly.
So when you say the loss ofcontrol, you know, I think

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that's an understatement becauseI didn't know what to expect.
She's fine now, by the way.
She's great.

Yeah, I was hanging there.
I'm like no, no, she's great,she's great.

She just finished her first year university.
She's great.

Congratulations.

She was five at the time.
So that loss of control wasvery difficult for me and I
think you know it's not to saythat thyroid cancer developed in
one year.
I had thyroid and adrenalissues way before that.
It's just that what caused itto erupt?

really, right the straw that broke the camel's
back right.
Yes, exactly.

So can you define for us what is metaphysical
anatomy Like?
What is that term?
What does it mean?

That's a great question.
So when you look here at thebook, so the title Meta, right?
So Meta means that spacebetween you and I.
It's that space of intelligencewhere things happen that we
can't always explain, but weknow it's happening.
As an example, have you everseen someone sitting there?

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You can't see their face,Nothing about them can tell you
anything about them, but youfeel, oh, something is not right
.
Yeah Well, how do you know that?
How do you know that this isthe transfer of information
between you and that person thatis telling you that this is our

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ability and our capacity of howbeautifully and deeply
connected we are to ourenvironment, how we're reading
messages, how the body'sresponding to its environment
constantly, non-stop.
We're doing this subconsciously.
It's a survival response.
We don't realize that we'redoing this because in order to

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know how we're constantlyresponding to and feeling to our
environment means that we needto have a certain level of
sensitivity to our emotions,because our emotions is
connected to our intuition.
If you sit there and you say,well, I can't feel my intuition,
it's blocked, I'm not one ofthese special people, well,
that's nonsense, that doesn'texist.

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We are all intuitive.
What you can do, what you'rechallenged with is feeling your
feelings.
Why?
Because in order for you tounderstand and interpret an
intuitive message, you need tobe able to feel your sensations,
because whatever your intuitionis maybe picking up on from
your environment is flooded backthrough your cells, through

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your nerve transmitters, andit's signaling certain messages
and chemical messages to thesubconscious, memory and the
physiology of the body.
So it's now looking forresonance and memories that it
can tap into, to activate sothat you can formulate a message
based on this external data.
So if we don't have asensitivity to that inner

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relationship of the body and tobe able to feel these sensations
, also called our six senses,how are you going to interpret
what you're feeling?
A lot of people often feelanxious and they're like what is
this?
What is this anxiety?
Is it now maybe an unidentifiedfear that my environment
triggered around me?
Am I maybe feeling theatmosphere in a room Because you

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walk into a room and you canfeel, whoa, this doesn't feel
good.
Well, how are you doing that?
This is now exactly what I'mtrying to say.
Your body is feeding and alwaysconnecting to what is going on
in its environment, to theseparticles.
I'm going to keep it simple fortoday's topic yeah, to these
particles.
And it's reading that, and theelectromagnetic field is pulling

(53:29):
all this data back to you andit's being deciphered and then
you interpret it into a messagebased on your prior experiences.
So I hope that that helps.

It does, it does.
And you're gonna laugh, yvette,because you're saying you have
to kind of be in touch with yourfeelings and I, my husband, is
kind of a more of a closed offperson and I have got and I'm
more open and very muchintuitive, and so I've gone and

(54:03):
taken like a selenite and put iton his heart and I'm like I'm
opening up your heart chakra,whether you like it or not, and
I think he's starting to kind ofcome more my way Because, yeah,
I'm like closing things off isnever going to help you in life.
If you, I mean you can't rundown the street screaming your

(54:24):
head off all the time, like Imean, but to be in touch with
how you're feeling, I think isso important.
It makes a lot of sense.

We're wired to not feel because when we feel the
discomfort we try to get awayfrom it.
So we've literally learned andbased our lives on taking action
to move away from how we feel.
So now it's habitual to notfeel, it's like an automatic
reflex and that's why it'sharder to come back to feeling.

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Your emotions, as I always say,is the GPS of your soul.
That is what tells you whereyou need to go, do this, do that
, don't do this, stay away fromthat person, but all coming from
a healthy signaling instead ofthis toxic, negative wiring and
programs that we formulatedduring our childhood, during our

(55:18):
later years, in our adult life.
And we can navigate throughthat.
But we have to feel comfortablewith feeling again Because we
think feeling is just, it'straumatic, it's bad, no, it's
not Right, so it's justrebuilding the relationship with
that so I have to ask because Ihave interviewed you.

I don't know if you know dr bradley nelson, the
emotion code.
Do you know him, though?
I have not.
No, so he's.
He does a lot with clearing how, like, emotions within the body
can be stored and then it canstart causing you pain.
So it's not really the same butsimilar.

(56:04):
And do you know Julia Cannon,dolores Cannon's daughter?

I've heard of Dolores.
Yes, I've heard of her, but Ido not, I'm not fully familiar
with her work.

So you know a lot of it is similar, do you?
And then there's Michael JLincoln Messages of the Body.
No, so a lot of these peopletalk about emotions like this
isn't a new concept, but I don'tthink I've ever seen such a

(56:35):
comprehensive book like yourswhere it's kind of all in one.
But here's the big thing.
I'm like okay, so let's say I'mdiagnosed with thyroid cancer.
Let's say like how, how do Ieven start to do the work?

(56:59):
Like it's almost, like it's toolate, I'm already sick, I've
already got something.
So what you teach is more to dothe work, hopefully before you
get sick, right.

That is correct, but it's also designed to help
people after the fact.

Right.
So like how, how do you evenbegin?

That's a really great question.
So first of all, it's importantto understand when we
specifically work with cancer.
What I normally ask the personis what was a theme in your life
seven years prior to the cancertaking place?
So that seven years backwardsneeds to be thoroughly
investigated to see has therebeen any repetitive patterns?
Because I look for repetition,because that's where the body

(57:48):
hits its threshold, is when itgoes to a certain level of
repetition and it can't upholdor handle or deal with or digest
that repetition anymore, andthen it's when it collapses,
right, that's when the bodystarts to have the ailment
Depends on the emotion thatyou're feeling.
That will tell you which part ofthe body is going to become
problematic.
So, because specific emotionsare held in different parts of

(58:09):
the body, so that needs to beestablished as well.
Because sometimes what I've seenis why a lot of people's
ailments they heal, but thenthey become sick again is
because there's certaindifferent emotional elements
that's connected to maybe oneissue.
So maybe it can be resentment,which is normally famously known
for cancer, but it can also be,let's say, there's an issue

(58:31):
where you feel very deeplyunloved.
Now, that feeling of unloved,it can be in the heart, but it
can also be in the solar plexus.
So now what's happening is that, let's say, you address this
feeling of resentment, but thefeeling of feeling unloved, that
emotion hasn't been addressed.
If this continues to stayproblematic and to feel

(58:51):
challenged and to be triggeredby the environment, maybe
something now can start tomanifest in the stomach area.
Now it can maybe turn into astomach ulcer right, or you
might have stomach problems oryou might struggle with a lot of
bloatedness.
So it's very interesting howone issue might be resolved but
how it can actually move intobecoming something else if the

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full package has not beenaddressed.

So how does one address it?
Like, for example, I know me,when I'm in that lower state, I
actually I meditate, I feel Ijust need to go quiet for me.
When I go quiet.
That's when I start to get someanswers.

(59:38):
I'm also a writer, so I writeand I journal or I write just
write, and these things help me.
What tools do you help peoplewith?
You know, because writingdoesn't resonate with everybody.
For me, walking in nature withmy other dog that I have, that's
really with everybody.
For me, walking in nature withmy, my other dog that I have, um

(59:59):
, that's really really importantfor me, and then I get some
clarity and I might seeksomething else.
So what tools do you providefor or as guidance.

Evette Rose (01:00:11):
So that's a great question.
So normally what I actuallyhave is a two-day workshop
called Metaphysical AnatomyTechnique, also the Mind-Body
Formula.
So this is where I compiled allthis research, where we work
with the electromagnetic fieldin the body, because it's this
field that is charged with thesenegative emotions and,

(01:00:31):
depending on the negativeemotion that you're consciously
or subconsciously energizing,that's causing a disruption in
the communication andtransmitters of the nerves and
the neurons all throughout thebody.
That now needs to be addressed,that needs to be shifted by
learning and understanding howto connect to the body in a safe

(01:00:52):
, gentle way and then how toshift also that blocked energy
gentle way and then how to shiftalso that blocked energy.
So we do that through conch, bylearning how to retrain, how to
shift and work with yourability to focus and how to set
intentions as well, and we havetremendous success with this.
And then in that workshop also,we talk about and I teach

(01:01:14):
people through four levels ofbreath work.
I love my alpha brainwave state,which is breathing in the mouth
, out the nose 13 times, andthat also helps to reset and to
regulate the nervous system.
So it's all about tapping intodifferent parts of the body and
then bringing it all together.
That helps the body to releasein a safe way, because, remember

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how I said, the body's notgoing to shift if it doesn't
feel safe.
And then we also address thenegative beliefs that we
formulate through subconsciousdecisions that were made
throughout our life, becausesometimes even these
subconscious decisions is theproblem in itself.
So the technique is thendesigned to help people shift

(01:01:55):
the biology.
We go back into the womb whenyou were in the womb of your
mother and to shift the traumatransfer that took place there
as well.
We dive deeply into addictionsand we have a lot of success
with pain as well, with justthis simple method.
So that is normally what I,what I do with people.

(01:02:16):
So if anyone is listening rightnow to give you something right
now, what I love to tell peopleis to bring your full focus and
awareness to the area in yourbody where you feel the
challenge, and imagine you'regiving yourself, in that area,
space.
Because it's so condensed andso congested because of the
rigidity and the stress that wehold, it needs space.

(01:02:39):
Open up that space.
Imagine that there's a lightand it's just growing bigger and
bigger and bigger, almost untilit bursts, and then go into the
alpha brainwave state and whenyou do the alpha brainwave state
, breathe in the mouth, into thearea where the challenge is,
and then imagine breathing fromthat area out the nose and do
that 13 times.

Sandy Kruse (01:03:00):
It's very powerful Actually.
Yeah, I love it.
I think that people can takeaway.
Yeah, oh, perfect.
I do like different forms ofbreath, work and you know I try
and coach my kids, like wheneverthey're stressed or whatever.
Teenagers don't listen, so well, let me say but you know

(01:03:21):
they'll learn.
They'll find out soon.
They'll find out, yeah, whenthey're younger.
I mean, when I was that age, Ididn't listen either.
So cancer we talked aboutcancer, resentment, I think.
Anger I think you mentionedanger in here.
Heart disease that's anotherreally common one.

(01:03:43):
What are some of the underlyingcauses for that?

emotionally, so unprocessed grief, inability to
receive love that you have inyour life because of how unsafe
you feel with it, and also yourterritory, constant invasion of
your personal space or yourterritory or your home, or

(01:04:06):
emotional invasiveness.
People always think because theheart's giving, receive well.
That doesn't even scratch thesurface.

Interesting.
What about autoimmune diseases?

Because they're so common now, whereas when we were
younger who is meant to love meis the one who is attacking me.

Ooh.

Yes, yes.
Where I'm looking for love,that's where I feel attacked.
Where I'm looking for safety,that's where I'm feeling
attacked.

Very interesting.
So we have almost like anepidemic of autoimmune diseases.

But autoimmune disease is also connected to our
relationship with our motherand how emotionally available
she was as well.
It's not always the case, butthat's another element to add to
that that I noticed in allthese interviews that I did.

It's so fascinating .
I mean, I love to dig deep onall this stuff.
Now I have to ask this becauseI wrote it down to make sure I
don't forget to ask you.
You mentioned trauma, we talkedabout it, and you also
mentioned how you know howinitially you can't even talk

(01:05:39):
about it.
You can't talk about it.
Do you believe that when youcan talk about it, that you have
healed?

depends how you're breaking down without like
losing it.
I'm talking, yeah, yeah, youknow look, look what you just
said, without losing it.
For me it's about how do youfeel when you talk about it.
If you can feel at peace andsafe remember, I'm keep bringing
it back to safety If you canfeel safe and talk about it, job

(01:06:15):
well done.
That's a job well done.
If you can talk about it andyou still feel maybe shaky or a
little bit upset, well done.
That is still an absolutemilestone.
But I think what you reallytruly would like to have is to
not have that charge, because ifyou don't have that charge

(01:06:38):
anymore, you also know thatsubconsciously, your environment
is also not triggeringbiochemical messages in the body
.
That's related to thesubconscious memories of this
trauma.
Sometimes that happens.
We feel anxious, we feel bad,we feel upset and we have
absolutely no idea why.
That in itself is draining.
You're losing vital, veryimportant energy.

(01:07:00):
So, from my understanding andmy personal experience and what
I've seen with this, if you canfeel safe, you know that your
body is conserving energy in avery healthy way.

Now, Okay, let's give a little example of that
Cause I always like to give anexample.
So if I am talking about thepassing of my dog, of course I
can still get emotional about it.
I definitely can.
But I don't have that fear,that anxiety, like my other dog

(01:07:38):
is going to get sick and die andit's like that unsafe feeling.
Right, I don't have that and Ican still talk about my dog and
get emotional.
But you know I've come to termswith everything and I know her
purpose in our lives and youknow I'm almost grateful for

(01:07:58):
what she brought to our family.
So would you say that that'shealed.

That's a great question.
The fact that this is aphysiological response tells me
that there is still perhaps awound.
However, this can be what Iwould call maybe an intellectual
wound, because now what happensis when this is a very common
issue with grief.
Why a lot of people feel likeit never ends is because when

(01:08:24):
the person or the dog or theanimal or the pet passes that
initial shock, we associate thatperson or that pet with that
grief, that person or that petwith that grief.
So, even though you might hear,there's almost like an
intellectual neural pathway thatstill links back when I think
of that person or animal, ittriggers the grief that you

(01:08:47):
associated with them.
So if you can release just theassociation of grief with that
person or pet, you'll noticeyourself actually feeling that
you're eliciting positivefeelings when you think back to
them.

Maybe have some work to do.

It's not even work.
It's more, maybe, just a simplemantra that you can meditate on
now, just if I would love foryou to experiment with this,
okay, at nighttime when youmeditate.
I acknowledge the differencebetween mention the dog's name
and grief.
Just disconnect the animal orthe person with the emotion

(01:09:30):
grief, because we associatetheir passing with grief.

You see, I totally see what you're saying.

So you're saying what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, consciously feeling youcan't avoid that.

Yeah, but you're saying consciously disconnect
grief with my dog.

It's just a conscious realization that this
person leaving their existence,it shouldn't be connected and
associated with grief.
How are you going to rememberall the good times?
Because every time you think ofthe good times you're going to
feel sad.
This is where I'm saying thisis a healthy approach to take
Now.
I would say dive into thisapproach.

(01:10:15):
Maybe three, six months or evenafter that, after the initial
grief, Allow yourself to gothrough what you need to go
through.
That needs to be honored.
Crying and grieving is anatural healing response in the
body.
It's normal to cry.
We're designed to cry to helpthe body to complete that cycle,

(01:10:38):
to release that distress andthe shock and everything that
took place.

I did join one of your works I don't know if it's
a workshop, Like.
I mean I have to dive in alittle bit more, but let
everybody know, because you'vegot such an amazing amount of

(01:11:06):
resources.

Oh yes.
So the two things that I thinkmost people would love is one is
the, the trauma decoded,unveiling hidden messages in the
body.
So that's a fun one dayworkshop where you can come and
literally learn how to read thebody like a book, without
needing the book.
So there, I teach you how to doremote viewings, distant
healings, how to really trulyconnect to the body and

(01:11:30):
understand when certain thingscome up, and how to read and how
to interpret it.
This is reconnecting back toour intuition and understanding
psychosomatic messages.
And then I have the two-dayworkshop, which is the
metaphysical anatomy technique,the body-mind formula, which is
where I teach you how to connectto the different parts of the
body and how to release that.

(01:11:52):
So a lot of modalities might saywell, you need a technique for
thoughts, you need a techniquefor trauma, you need a technique
for this, this, this, this,that.
In MIT, it's one technique forall, for everything.
There's not this scatteredapproach all over the place,
because the body is not thatcomplicated.
When you have a negativethought, you need to go look at

(01:12:12):
underlying trauma, because itcan even be an inherited trauma.
It can be a trauma transferfrom someone else that you know
that you deeply love.
We can actually have that.
You know how people say well,maybe it triggered something in
me.
Well, not always.
So these are all very importantpoints that everything is

(01:12:33):
addressed with one tool.
So pain, addictions, emotionaltrauma, negative beliefs,
whatever it is that needs to beshifted or elicited, it's just
this one technique and processso it can be used for absolutely
everything.
And then I have, of course, thelevels can go up.
And then we also have our lifehealing retreats in Bali.

(01:12:54):
Oh I want to come see you.
I want to come see you in Bali.
Oh, I want to come see you.

I want to come see you in Bali.
Yeah, so in September.
For example.

Yeah, so, like in September, we have the spiritual
awakening retreat, which iswhere we, you know, open up,
blast open, you know, innerpsychic abilities, how to be a
medium, how to heal andcommunicate with animals, how to
connect with your angels, howto work and heal with them.
So it's all about coming backto what is natural to you how to
really truly just embody that.

(01:13:23):
For it to become a lifestyleand not just a practice that you
have to go sit down and breatheyourself into a good state in
order to just get one message itshould be a lifestyle, because
that's our innate capacity andability to be able to do all
these things.
Yeah, and then we have thewoman's retreat, so there's so
many fun things that I love todo during and throughout the

(01:13:43):
year it's amazing.

What's uh?
What's the best place forpeople?
Where should they find you?
What's?

metaphysical, yeah, so metaphysicalanatomycom,
that's the one-stop place foreverything.

Okay, and then you're also on all of the
socials.
Would it be on metaphysicalanatomy?

So the social media is also on the website, but you
can also find me on Instagram,yvette Rose, official
yvettevideoscom.
That's a fun direct URL to myYouTube videos, where I share a
ton of information that's free,especially the playlist of
transformational healing videos.
I have a ton of videos therethat will walk you through

(01:14:26):
healing processes for differentissues or areas in your life
that you might have.
A ton of psychosomatic videos.
There's so much that I have.
I sometimes forget everythingthat I have.
Yeah.

No, that's so amazing.
I just want to thank you,Yvette.
It's just such a pleasuremeeting you and talking with you
and you sharing your wisdomwith us.
I hope you enjoyed this episode.
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