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January 5, 2024 26 mins

On this week's #RefsPodcast: Arizona Coyotes' Jason Zucker suspended for boarding Florida Panthers' Nick Cousins, but nothing for the Cousins hit on Valimaki; Minnesota Wild's Ryan Hartman fined for avenging an injury to Kirill Kaprizov with a high stick to Winnipeg Jets' Cole Perfetti, New York Rangers' kickin' old school on a Chris Krieder skate goal, Seattle Kraken's Tomas Tatar plays the puck from the bench, the PWHL's inaugural season gets underway with new rules, closing your hand on the puck in the crease, a Ghost dive gets two, a penalty swap at Sens/Pens, and more on ref accountability and post-game comments.


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The Scouting The Refs Podcast is a weekly look at the world of officiating and player safety within the National Hockey League, AHL, ECHL, and other leagues around the world. We'll break down the calls and the rules behind them to help understand why a penalty or suspension was - or wasn't - handed out. Todd Lewis is a veteran broadcaster covering the NHL and other major league sports. Lewis is a former host on the NHL Network and on NHL Network Radio. He’s also worked for TSN, Sportsnet as a host/anchor and is a producer of other programs. Josh Smith is the founder of Scouting the Refs, the leading independent site related to hockey officiating which follows hockey officials across the NHL, AHL, ECHL, and other leagues around the world, including news, rule changes and interpretations, suspensions, and statistics on officials and penalty calls. 

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