April 23, 2024 • 32 mins
Imagine a world where a simple touch can catalyze profound healing, where your own fingertips wield the power to alleviate pain and stress. That's the reality Paul Bucky, introduces us to—a technique that’s as astonishing as it is effective. Throughout our conversation, Paul peels back the layers of this gentle healing method, revealing how it transcends the conventional and operates without the crutch of a belief system.
We're taken on a journey from Paul's personal healing experience to heartwarming tales of recovery and empowerment, highlighting the profound impact Bio-Touch has had on individuals and families facing health challenges.
As we unfold the narrative of Bio-Touch, we find ourselves at the edge of our seats with stories that seem to flirt with the miraculous. An ICU recovery defying medical expectations, a grandmother's newfound ability to soothe her grandchildren's ailments; these vignettes not only showcase the immediate benefits of Bio-Touch but also its ripple effect on the caregivers involved.
We explore the 'greeting' technique—a simple yet profound starting point for those looking to harness the healing capabilities of Bio-Touch. These accounts emphasize not just a journey towards physical rejuvenation, but also a path leading us to rediscover the innate power of human connection and touch.
Paul's insight doesn't simply point us towards a new healing modality; it calls us to question our broader perspectives on health and community. This episode is an ode to the shared human experience—our innate longing for love, relief from suffering, and a touch of reassurance in tumultuous times.
Through Paul's expertise and the transformative stories shared, we're left with a sense of possibility, a glimpse into a future where Bio-Touch is not just about physical restoration, but about sowing seeds of peace and love across the globe.
Join us as we explore the remarkable potential of Bio-Touch to heal, empower, and connect.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone, welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I'm joined by Paul Buckey.
He is the founder of thefoundation that teaches BioTouch
.
Biotouch is a complimentaryapproach for health, and we're
going to talk about all thebenefits of reclaiming our
birthright to be healthy, happyand loved.
Paul, thank you so much forcoming on Spiritual Spotlight
(00:23):
Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, Rachel, this will be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This will be fun, so let's just jump right in.
So bio-touch healing isdescribed as a complimentary
approach for health thatinvolves touching specific
points on the body to enhancenatural healing abilities.
Can you maybe elaborate on howthis technique works and what
sets it apart from other healingmodalities?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
on, how this technique works and what it.
What sets it apart from otherhealing modalities.
Well, the first way I alwaysanswered I have absolutely no
idea how it works, which isreally nice about our
presentation.
You know we're not trying tohave people have a belief system
.
I'm sure you know there's a lotof techniques out there call
(01:06):
themselves energy modalities.
We shy away from that becauseyou know energy is sort of who
knows really what it means andfor some people you start doing
energy where you don't eventouch the body and it's like, oh
, stay away.
And so we just touch on theskin very lightly, like a
(01:26):
butterfly.
And though we don't know how itworks and we let everybody
describe that, we do know thatit has effects and we've done
that with research at theUniversity of Arizona with Dr
Schwartz, dr Kenneth Stevensonin Texas, where the results
showed consistently a reduce instress, in pain, a regulation of
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hormone levels and cortisollevels and an upregulation of
what's called interleukin-12levels, which helps build our
immune system.
So that's what the data shows.
So it's not necessarily how itworks, but it certainly shows
there's some kind of an effecthappening.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, that's amazing.
So your journey with intoBioTouch began with a personal
experience of relief from reallybad back pain.
I can't talk right now.
Can you maybe share more aboutthis experience and how it led
you to discover and embrace thishealing modality?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
So you know that was back inthe mid 80s and I was still in
my stint of doing my hippie days, if you you know, there's still
some of us around and I hadlived on the dropped out of
society, was living on a pieceof property and my health was
perfect.
I had to move into this littletown called Mancos, colorado,
(02:48):
very conservative community, 900people, basically Southern
Baptists, mormons, cowboys andranchers, and then my wife and I
we were the town hippies and Igot this back problem in the
back and the pain went down myleg and at that time in my life
I'd followed enough gurus anddone this and done that, uh,
(03:10):
where I didn't want anything todo with, uh, uh, healers,
clairvoyants, even chiropractors, uh, medical, cia, fbi, I mean,
if you had a title, I was sortof anti every title.
I wasn't even signing my lastname in those days.
And so I tried all theself-healing techniques.
(03:32):
I tried the yoga, themeditation, trying to work on
all my karmic stuff you know, aswe hear about, and after a year
the pain was still there and Irealized something real
important Self-healing is a niceidea, but if you don't get
better, you've now created apsychological, spiritual problem
(03:53):
Because obviously I'm not goodenough.
I must have some old issues I'mnot willing to work on.
God doesn't love me.
So I had not only had a pain inmy butt now, I had a pain in my
heart.
So, interestingly enough, thewhole town and this is the
mid-80s is talking about thisguy who lived out of town doing
healing work.
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And I'm like, well, that'sweird.
And they said you should go seehim.
He doesn't have a telephone.
He and his wife, they liveoutside of town.
They told me where he lived.
I'm on the way to the dump oneday and I see this guy's house
and I get out and I it's at anembankment and this guy comes
out.
He looks like a guy in thefifties in the Navy, big barrel,
tight white t-shirt, rolled upsleeves, cigarettes stuck in the
(04:36):
sleeves, and I'm down there inflip-flops and a ponytail and
I'm like, oh, I'm in the wrongplace.
And uh, sure enough, he said no, no, my name's Norman, come on
up to the house.
And we go in and we open thesliding glass doors and I'm
inundated with smoke.
He and his people were chainsmokers from 6 am till midnight
(04:56):
and coffee drinkers and I satdown at the table and I went.
This is impressive, you know,there's no pretense of healing.
Like I said, there was no whalemusic, there was no tingling
cymbals, it was just the soapswere playing on the TV, there
was cakes and breads, and and so, anyhow, he took me into his
(05:17):
room, just a bedroom, had me siton the side of the bed, remove
my shirt, cause we touch righton the skin, and he just hands.
And then he touched me lightlywith the index and middle finger
which we can actually teachtoday to your you and your
people and did some points on myback left, didn't say anything.
(05:37):
I went out.
I said Well, what'd you do?
He said I just touched.
I said Well, what should Iexpect?
He said Whatever.
I said well, should I come back?
He said if you want?
And then the kicker was howmuch do I owe you?
And he said oh, no, no, no, wedon't charge.
Not only did they not charge,they discouraged people from
leaving anything, and so peoplewould leave $20 in the flowers
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and a pack of cigarettes underthe bed or a can of coffee.
They'd bring food, they'd bringmoney, and it wasn't but two
sessions, and that year longpain was gone, and then I spent
the next six months of my bodyrealigning itself just with that
light touch.
And so I hung out and I watchedpeople come all from all over
(06:23):
the four corners that wouldnever talk to each other in the
streets.
I mean, you had the cowboys,the ranchers, the Indians coming
up from the reservation,migrant farm workers and people
were hanging out.
And one of the old timers saidto me you know, norman and Carol
brought love to the MancosValley, and I'd been searching
for love for decades before that.
(06:45):
And I thought, oh my God, hereit was, in this light touch with
people, no matter what theirbelief system was.
And so I said we need to getthis out to the public.
And I became the stooge to getit out to the public.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
That is amazing.
So you are somebody who learnedBioTouch from Norman and it
played a pivotal role in formingthe organization to teach
others.
Can you tell me what inspiredto take this path, like into the
world?
Like how did this journey gointo the world of getting
BioTouch to everyone else?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, that that, that old timer who told me Norman
and Carol brought love to theMancos Valley.
That was my seeking.
At five years old I wished thateverybody could be happy,
healthy and loved.
And here it was.
Out of all those years I wentmanic.
I was hugely depressed incollege, followed all the gurus,
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did all the bright meditations,but here it was with a light
touch, touch, and you didn'thave to have a belief system and
something inside.
And you know about that, justit, I.
It wasn't even me talking.
It was like we have to get thisout to the public.
And so for 35 years now my jobhas been to continue to get by a
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touch out there.
And still, at our Tucson Centerwe don't charge strictly
donation basis.
None of us in the organizationare getting paid to do this.
I have never been paid allthese years to do it and it's
really a service to humanity,especially at a time when it's
needed.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I just love the storyof going to his house with, you
know, chain smoker and not thelike, and then and then to be
healed and he's like, whatever,like it.
Just I just I love that storybecause I feel like sometimes as
a spiritual healer, you know,people might get duped, like by
(08:40):
the smoke and mirrors, and he'slike, whatever, if it works, it
works great, Like, if not,whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
See ya, and that's our.
That is still the philosophy ofthe presentation.
The goal is to keep it simple,to keep it.
The manual as we teach it isall with notches and bumps and
grinds.
There's no centering, there'sno belief system, there's no
hierarchy.
(09:05):
Everybody can do it immediatelyand be effective.
So you know, we've justcontinued, and when people ask
me questions, one of my mainanswers is I don't know.
Like when you ask me, how doesit work, I don't know.
Why does it work?
I don't know, you know.
I mean, it's just, it's sort oflike it's nice to say I don't
(09:25):
know, you know, and let peopleanswer the questions what works
for them, what makes it okay forthem to want to practice this
with their family and theirfriends.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Absolutely.
Can you maybe share some reallife stories or examples of
individuals who have experiencedremarkable transformations or
healing through BioTouch?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
individuals who have experienced remarkable
transformations or healingthrough BioTouch.
Yeah, so we'll take twospecifics that come to mind.
One is my mother, who shepassed out in the hospital.
They took her to the emergencycare.
They put a pacemaker in.
Next thing I'm in Hawaii withmy brother and she's in Denver
and we get a call.
She basically coded, theypunctured her heart, put her on
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the operating table.
Couldn't, they said, her heartwas like a eggshell.
They couldn't get enough bloodto her brain.
She died on the table,basically came back to life by
the time I got there.
They said if she lived she'd bea vegetable.
She was in a coma for threeweeks and I'm doing the BioTouch
around in ICU, around themachines.
(10:27):
So during that whole time shenever had to take metabolic
medication.
I kept her kidneys going andher metabolism going.
If the blood pressure startedwhacking out and they were going
to give her some kind ofmedicine, I said wait and I was
able to do the blood pressureset and watch it level out.
When she came out of the coma.
(10:47):
Finally she couldn't stand.
They had to put her in a box todo PT and basically the short
of that story was six monthslater she was walking on a beach
in Hawaii and a year after thatproblem she went.
We were at there was a hurricanecoming in Hawaii.
We had to go to thecardiologist for a yearly
checkup and he says to me hesays you know she has the heart
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of a 20-year-old and when I toldhim what had happened he said
that's impossible.
There's no heart damage showingon any of our tests.
So that's a major one.
(11:40):
And what I learned by being inICU and watching all these
families feel helpless andhopeless and afraid.
I really made the commitment toget this to families, to give
them something to do while theirloved ones were in situations
that they had no control over.
And you, being a nurse, knowhow difficult that is for family
members when their loved one isgoing through a major,
catastrophic problem.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Absolutely.
And what's your other story?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The other story is real simple.
This woman calls us up, shewants a manual with the DVD.
This was maybe 20 years ago.
She'd never done healing workbefore.
She'd never done healing workbefore.
So I sent it to her and shetold me that when she got it she
was taking care of her grandson, who was 10, and her
granddaughter who was six.
And she got it and she had thisterrible sinus headache.
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And so she said to the kids hey, I just got this thing, I got
this headache, let's watch itand let's have you do this on me
.
They all sat around, put theDVD in and they learned how to
do the greeting and the sinusset and her headache immediately
went away.
This 10-year-old boy did it onher.
So that to me is a real miraclestory too that somebody could
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learn it so quickly and have hergrandkids help her.
That's a touching story.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So one of the things that I think is amazing about
BioTouch Healing is that it'sknown for its accessibility and
its inclusive nature.
So, as anyone can learn andpractice it like you just kind
of mentioned that, can you maybeprovide some simple techniques
or practices that our listenerscan try on their own to
experience the benefits ofBioTouch?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, what we can do is we can teach.
We have a set for manydifferent areas of the body,
like a sinus and an eye set.
We have a heart and bloodpressure.
We have back set metabolism,lungs, a headset for the brain,
but the key to the whole systemis what we call the greeting,
(13:33):
and we're going to teach thatright now.
And you said you wanted tolearn it too.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I do, I do, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And this is the key to the system If all you could
do is this, and then we'll showyou how to do very local kind of
work.
So what you do is you take yourindex and your middle finger of
your dominant hand Okay, oh,you're a lefty too.
Yes, all right.
So you want to take that fingerand now you're going to on your
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skin, on yourself there.
If you've got somebody next toyou, tell them to lift their
shirt a little bit so you canget to their tummy.
And you want to find a pointthat's just below the breastbone
.
So you feel that breastbone,you go down and it gets real
soft just below the breastbone.
That's what we call point one.
You want to hold that like abutterfly, no indentation, for
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six to eight seconds just belowthe breastbone.
That's what we call point oneof the greeting.
You now want to take that samehand.
Okay, and this is the only partof the system where you use one
hand.
You take that same hand and yougo just behind your neck and if
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you follow your neck down, itcomes to a big bone just right
at the shoulder level and you goto the left of that big bone
about an inch to an inch and ahalf to the left of the big bone
.
Some people know that as C7,but we just call it the big bone
, so you can see it's all realsimple talk.
I love that.
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The big bone.
So you can see, it's all realsimple talk.
Okay, those two points six toeight seconds to each one starts
a healing process.
We have a challenge we give topeople.
If you just did the greetingwith someone and they did the
greeting to you, it wouldtransform your life after 21
days.
That's a healing process.
That happens.
It takes you 30 seconds each.
So no, six, eight, it wouldtake you 15 to 20 seconds to do
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that with another person.
Biotouch, again, is one persontouching another.
For a lot of people who say,well, what if I don't have
anybody, what we say is well,you still can do the points, but
think of somebody doing it toyou.
This is a healing techniqueabout relationship.
It's about us relating inhumanity to one another.
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The idea of self-healing is anice concept, but it starts
separating us and we want tobring touch back into society,
back into humanity.
So just by doing that greetingyou're starting a healing
process.
You could then take the twofingers.
If you didn't know anythingelse in our little manual you
could then just take two pointsand let's say somebody had a
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neck ache, then you could justtouch on either side of the neck
on that muscle and just do afew sets of points and then you
could even slowly sweep.
That means slowly anddeliberately move your fingers
across an affected area, anddirection doesn't matter.
You can come from the and youcould go anywhere on a body.
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Let's say somebody has anarthritic elbow.
You could just touch around theelbow, you know, with both
hands.
Or if it's a sinus thing andyou don't know the sinus set,
you could just touch around theelbow, you know, with both hands
.
Or if it's a sinus thing andyou don't know the sinus set,
you could just touch around thesinus.
But everything's slow, light anddeliberate.
That's what you can do just bylistening to us.
If you wanted to learn more.
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And you can download thatgreeting from the website and it
doesn't cost anything, there'sa little link on the right
download the greeting.
And if you just practice thatyou, I think you'd really start
to notice it.
Just you, you just watch peopledoing that and they just go.
Ah, there's a moment of breath.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh, I love that.
Thank you so much for showingthat.
So you kind of brought upsomething about like an
emotional connection andbringing connection back.
So, in your opinion, what roledoes the touch play in the
healing process, both on aphysical and an emotional level?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So we pride ourselves on addressing the body.
Okay, people's emotional,spiritual life is their path and
everybody knows what they needto do.
They just don't trust it.
You know, and by addressing thebody, the body holds all of our
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issues, issues, and that's hugenow in the psychological work,
emotional work, spiritual workthat we call epigenetics.
You know, you can change thecells by changing the dialogue,
and the dialogue is about love.
And when you just love the body, then the messages start
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changing and the body can heal.
So we, in our presentation,address the body and then we let
people's own self-awareness,which unfolds itself over time,
dictate where it is they need,what they need to do, what they
need to eat.
I mean we don't address.
You know, I've worked withpeople.
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They were total meat eaterstheir whole life and all of a
sudden they were desiringbroccoli.
I've worked with people.
They were total meat eaterstheir whole life and all of a
sudden they were desiringbroccoli.
I've met total vegetarians whoyou work on them and all of a
sudden they need a Big Mac.
And so it's not about laws ordiscipline, it's about your own
self-awareness.
And then, when you're working onthese different issues, I
remember working on a woman at adrug rehab community and we
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were working on her shoulder andshe started bawling, just
bawling and bawling, and all ofa sudden she had that memory of
when she was raped and waskicked in that shoulder and she
was able the next day to go toher group because they had daily
groups and share thatexperience.
The pain was gone, you know,and she'd had it for years.
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So the beauty of it is if youjust address the body and trust
that people will find their ownpath.
They do and and they and theyfind the other practitioner.
They might need a chiropractor,they might need a, uh, they
might need to take anantidepressant, they might need
you know, whatever, but they'll,they'll meet the person they
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need to meet and we don't needto recommend or diagnose.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I just think that's amazing.
And one of the things that youbrought up in the beginning was
that you know, if you do learn ahealing modality and then if
you use it and it doesn't workper se, then we get those
limiting beliefs and you're likelisten, this, this, I don't
have to, we don't have tonecessarily explain how it works
, it just does and you can tryit out for yourself and I, and
it takes away that pressure ofyou have to know everything.
(20:12):
Like I just that's such abeautiful way to do that.
Like I just think that's soamazing and and I liked that it
sounds like it's a very nonjudgmental way of healing, like,
oh well, rachel, you don'tdrink six glasses of water and
you don't take your vitamins andyou don't do this.
It's like it's going to meetyou where you're at.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Right, and that's it's so important right now,
because we're inundated withthings we do you know, you know,
I mean, my brother was justdealing with some lung cancer
issues and the last thing heneeded was more ideas on what to
do, you know.
And so I just got his wife andhis daughter to work with him
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and he's beginning to heal andhe did some standard practices.
You know some people they'll dobiotouch and they'll decide I
don't want to do standardpractice anymore.
You know I'm OK.
So you know, to encouragepeople to trust their own
intuition is so important.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It really is so.
The old paradigm that wealthequals health is no longer
effective and there's a growingdemand for you know choices in
healthcare.
Like I, as we discussed before,I run a doctor's office and
there's always room for holistichealing, alternative healing.
How do you envision BioTouchcontributing this shift in our
views about health and healing?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We talk about that a lot.
We have a Monday show, we doMondays with Bev and Paul.
We talk a lot about that.
You know, health is wealth.
You know, and the beauty ofBioTouch is the goal of wealth
is to learn to give it away.
You know, affluency isaffluency when we share it.
You know there's only so much Ican hoard in my life and then
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if I have the ability to havegood health or wealth, you know
that's my station in life and sohow can I share that?
And with BioTouch, the wealthof knowing how to do this
technique and then sharing it.
You know that all of us nowbecome wealthy.
We raise everyone together, youknow, because we're all now
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equal in the ability to help oneanother, and that's a very
wealthy society and a veryaffluent society.
So that's that's our goal is tojust get this to everybody so
that they can then turn on andshare.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I just think that's beautiful, because I'm sometimes
I feel like even providers.
They get stuck in justdiagnosing and prescribing
medications and you know, andit's like, are we really
addressing?
I mean, like you said a littlewhile ago, the body keeps the
score.
So trauma, you know, pain,everything our body holds it
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until something like this, abeautiful bio touch healing
session, and then she has atrigger of a memory and then
she's able to let it go, like Ijust that's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And the other thing that happens too.
So I was dealing with the oldprostate issues.
Right, you're in your midseventies and now they're taking
these PSA counts and all of asudden, boom, you got this
number.
The number means you got to dothis.
Now we need the biopsy.
But I've been doing BioTouchenough.
It gave me a sense of okay, I'mokay, let's take responsibility
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for my own healthcare, let's dosome research, let's ask
questions, and BioTouch seems toempower people to work with
their healthcare practitionerand not be afraid any longer or
be the victim of a system thathas gotten so far out of hand.
And not because of the doctorswho really care or the nurses
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like yourself, it's the systemitself that's gotten so crazy,
and BioTouch gives us theopportunity to work with our
healthcare, find other optionsthat work for us.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's so true, like where I am, we were mandated to
get the COVID vaccine, mandatedto get the flu shot, and it's
like our choice is taken awayfrom us.
You know, as a, as a humanbeing, like our rights, I feel
like, are it's like well, whocares?
We just got to push thisvaccine and it's.
It's a very awkward position tobe in.
(24:23):
You know, it's very unusual,unusual.
And you've brought up my, mypartner.
He himself has prostate issuesand I'm, I'm going, I'm gonna
actually bring this to him andsay, let's, let's see how this
goes.
I mean, honestly, like you know, like because he has to get a
biopsy and things like that, andI'm, I'm bringing this to him,
paul, I'm happy to talk to himabout what different things I've
(24:44):
been looking into.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But, uh, you, but I think for me in that unknown, if
we deal with the prostate thing, it's it's allowed me to calm
down.
So if my wife works on me andI've just been to the urologist,
I'm able to calm down a moment.
I might still do what they'reasking me to do, and many and a
few times I haven't, and I'veactually changed a lot of the
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numbers, which it's improved,but it levels me out and calms
me down to be able to look atwhat I'm being asked to do and
what do I really want to do.
And no, I'm gonna be okay, I'mgonna be okay, I'm still loved
and I can still love, and sothat's, that's a key to healing.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And I like that.
It also it helps you to take abeat, like it helps you take a
pause, like it helps you to.
I mean, it's scary to be toldyou have this.
And then I feel like how thatmessage is even delivered for
patients and people that arehearing this traumatic news,
doing something like a bio touchhealing session can kind of
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just all right.
Well, let's calm down, let'stake a moment, let's calm down
the system and then let's seewhat we need to do for next
steps, like that's amazing, andespecially for the family.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I remember we had this 16 year old who gave a
presentation and what she andshe shared, what she loved about
BioTouch when her mother wasgoing through.
Basically it was a terminalcancer situation, the chemo and
all.
It gave her hope and it gaveher a sense of participating in
her mother's healing and health,instead of her sitting back at
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16 years old afraid oh my God,what's going to happen to my
mother.
So it gave them both the chanceto relate and take that breath
while her mother did all thedifferent interventions.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That is amazing.
So you've been involved inteaching and spreading the
practice of bio touch worldwide.
Spreading the practice ofBioTouch worldwide.
Can you maybe share onerewarding aspect of your journey
in sharing this transformativehealing modality with others?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know.
So it was on.
I was in Egypt and went on AlJazeera and people were calling
from all over which isinteresting as I'm thinking
about it what there's such chaosthere now, and we do have some
practitioners there now who aretrying to put different posts
about yes, we need BioTouch forthese babies.
Yes, you know, biotouch canbring peace.
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You know, and that, to me, isvery fulfilling that we were
able to pass it on.
And when I was on this TV, thisradio and TV show, people were
bringing in questions and theyhad to translate it from Arabic.
I was able to teach andrecognize.
No matter where you are on theplanet, the one common
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denominator is that we're allafraid and we're all suffering
and we just want to feel lovedand that everything's going to
be okay and to be able to teach.
Even just that greeting.
And you could just see, even inthe studio there, where the guy
(28:05):
who interviewed me said well,now, why should we believe you?
And the first thing I was ableto say is you don't want to
believe me.
This is not about belief, butlet's try it.
And to watch them, even on TV,just oh.
And the people that called inyou could just tell they felt a
little bit of relief, yeah, alittle bit of calm.
That to me, more than all thewow.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Look at what we did, you know just that moment of
relief is is worth it all to me.
I love that and it sounds likesuch a profound, like ripple
effect of you know of the workthat you're doing.
I love that.
It's like, okay, let's, we'rejust going to um move it all out
.
I love that.
That's amazing.
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So, before I ask you the finalquestion, what is the best place
for someone to go to to learnmore about the BioTouch healing?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You go to our website , justtouchcom.
It's very simple.
We have the ability to downloadparts of the manual for free.
You can get the whole thing.
You can get our ebook, whichyou just put on your computer.
It has links to a video toteach you how to do it.
It has the words that are easyto understand.
Also, we have lots of thetestimonials.
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We have Monday shows that we'vedone for six years so, and then
you can just send us an emailif you have more questions.
You know so, and it's easy forus to zoom with somebody you
know, just to show you how towork on your husband's prostate.
You know, I mean it's we'revery accessible, but just
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touchcom is the way to plug intous.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I love that.
So, paul, considering yourprofound expertise in bio touch
healing, what advice or insightswould you like for our
listeners to know that may beinterested in exploring this
approach to enhancing theiroverall wellbeing?
Maybe one piece of advice.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Trust that you're loved.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
That's beautiful.
I love that Honestly.
I'm sorry.
I know that Honestly.
I'm sorry.
I know that's simple, but it'sso profound, like it's, so it's,
I love that.
I love that.
Well, paul, I want to thank youso so much for coming on
spiritual spotlight series.
I am even more excited aboutbio touch healing and I
definitely look forward tospeaking with you again in the
future.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I hope so, Rachel.
Thanks for having me on andthanks for all your listeners.
Hello everyone, welcome to our Spiritual
Spotlight Series.
Today I'm joined by Paul Buckey.
He is the founder of thefoundation that teaches BioTouch
.
Biotouch is a complimentaryapproach for health, and we're
going to talk about all thebenefits of reclaiming our
birthright to be healthy, happyand loved.
Paul, thank you so much forcoming on Spiritual Spotlight
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Series.
I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, Rachel, this will be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This will be fun, so let's just jump right in.
So bio-touch healing isdescribed as a complimentary
approach for health thatinvolves touching specific
points on the body to enhancenatural healing abilities.
Can you maybe elaborate on howthis technique works and what
sets it apart from other healingmodalities?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
on, how this technique works and what it.
What sets it apart from otherhealing modalities.
Well, the first way I alwaysanswered I have absolutely no
idea how it works, which isreally nice about our
presentation.
You know we're not trying tohave people have a belief system
.
I'm sure you know there's a lotof techniques out there call
(01:06):
themselves energy modalities.
We shy away from that becauseyou know energy is sort of who
knows really what it means andfor some people you start doing
energy where you don't eventouch the body and it's like, oh
, stay away.
And so we just touch on theskin very lightly, like a
(01:26):
butterfly.
And though we don't know how itworks and we let everybody
describe that, we do know thatit has effects and we've done
that with research at theUniversity of Arizona with Dr
Schwartz, dr Kenneth Stevensonin Texas, where the results
showed consistently a reduce instress, in pain, a regulation of
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hormone levels and cortisollevels and an upregulation of
what's called interleukin-12levels, which helps build our
immune system.
So that's what the data shows.
So it's not necessarily how itworks, but it certainly shows
there's some kind of an effecthappening.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, that's amazing.
So your journey with intoBioTouch began with a personal
experience of relief from reallybad back pain.
I can't talk right now.
Can you maybe share more aboutthis experience and how it led
you to discover and embrace thishealing modality?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.
So you know that was back inthe mid 80s and I was still in
my stint of doing my hippie days, if you you know, there's still
some of us around and I hadlived on the dropped out of
society, was living on a pieceof property and my health was
perfect.
I had to move into this littletown called Mancos, colorado,
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very conservative community, 900people, basically Southern
Baptists, mormons, cowboys andranchers, and then my wife and I
we were the town hippies and Igot this back problem in the
back and the pain went down myleg and at that time in my life
I'd followed enough gurus anddone this and done that, uh,
(03:10):
where I didn't want anything todo with, uh, uh, healers,
clairvoyants, even chiropractors, uh, medical, cia, fbi, I mean,
if you had a title, I was sortof anti every title.
I wasn't even signing my lastname in those days.
And so I tried all theself-healing techniques.
(03:32):
I tried the yoga, themeditation, trying to work on
all my karmic stuff you know, aswe hear about, and after a year
the pain was still there and Irealized something real
important Self-healing is a niceidea, but if you don't get
better, you've now created apsychological, spiritual problem
(03:53):
Because obviously I'm not goodenough.
I must have some old issues I'mnot willing to work on.
God doesn't love me.
So I had not only had a pain inmy butt now, I had a pain in my
heart.
So, interestingly enough, thewhole town and this is the
mid-80s is talking about thisguy who lived out of town doing
healing work.
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And I'm like, well, that'sweird.
And they said you should go seehim.
He doesn't have a telephone.
He and his wife, they liveoutside of town.
They told me where he lived.
I'm on the way to the dump oneday and I see this guy's house
and I get out and I it's at anembankment and this guy comes
out.
He looks like a guy in thefifties in the Navy, big barrel,
tight white t-shirt, rolled upsleeves, cigarettes stuck in the
(04:36):
sleeves, and I'm down there inflip-flops and a ponytail and
I'm like, oh, I'm in the wrongplace.
And uh, sure enough, he said no, no, my name's Norman, come on
up to the house.
And we go in and we open thesliding glass doors and I'm
inundated with smoke.
He and his people were chainsmokers from 6 am till midnight
(04:56):
and coffee drinkers and I satdown at the table and I went.
This is impressive, you know,there's no pretense of healing.
Like I said, there was no whalemusic, there was no tingling
cymbals, it was just the soapswere playing on the TV, there
was cakes and breads, and and so, anyhow, he took me into his
(05:17):
room, just a bedroom, had me siton the side of the bed, remove
my shirt, cause we touch righton the skin, and he just hands.
And then he touched me lightlywith the index and middle finger
which we can actually teachtoday to your you and your
people and did some points on myback left, didn't say anything.
(05:37):
I went out.
I said Well, what'd you do?
He said I just touched.
I said Well, what should Iexpect?
He said Whatever.
I said well, should I come back?
He said if you want?
And then the kicker was howmuch do I owe you?
And he said oh, no, no, no, wedon't charge.
Not only did they not charge,they discouraged people from
leaving anything, and so peoplewould leave $20 in the flowers
(06:02):
and a pack of cigarettes underthe bed or a can of coffee.
They'd bring food, they'd bringmoney, and it wasn't but two
sessions, and that year longpain was gone, and then I spent
the next six months of my bodyrealigning itself just with that
light touch.
And so I hung out and I watchedpeople come all from all over
(06:23):
the four corners that wouldnever talk to each other in the
streets.
I mean, you had the cowboys,the ranchers, the Indians coming
up from the reservation,migrant farm workers and people
were hanging out.
And one of the old timers saidto me you know, norman and Carol
brought love to the MancosValley, and I'd been searching
for love for decades before that.
(06:45):
And I thought, oh my God, hereit was, in this light touch with
people, no matter what theirbelief system was.
And so I said we need to getthis out to the public.
And I became the stooge to getit out to the public.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
That is amazing.
So you are somebody who learnedBioTouch from Norman and it
played a pivotal role in formingthe organization to teach
others.
Can you tell me what inspiredto take this path, like into the
world?
Like how did this journey gointo the world of getting
BioTouch to everyone else?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, that that, that old timer who told me Norman
and Carol brought love to theMancos Valley.
That was my seeking.
At five years old I wished thateverybody could be happy,
healthy and loved.
And here it was.
Out of all those years I wentmanic.
I was hugely depressed incollege, followed all the gurus,
(07:40):
did all the bright meditations,but here it was with a light
touch, touch, and you didn'thave to have a belief system and
something inside.
And you know about that, justit, I.
It wasn't even me talking.
It was like we have to get thisout to the public.
And so for 35 years now my jobhas been to continue to get by a
(08:00):
touch out there.
And still, at our Tucson Centerwe don't charge strictly
donation basis.
None of us in the organizationare getting paid to do this.
I have never been paid allthese years to do it and it's
really a service to humanity,especially at a time when it's
needed.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I just love the storyof going to his house with, you
know, chain smoker and not thelike, and then and then to be
healed and he's like, whatever,like it.
Just I just I love that storybecause I feel like sometimes as
a spiritual healer, you know,people might get duped, like by
(08:40):
the smoke and mirrors, and he'slike, whatever, if it works, it
works great, Like, if not,whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
See ya, and that's our.
That is still the philosophy ofthe presentation.
The goal is to keep it simple,to keep it.
The manual as we teach it isall with notches and bumps and
grinds.
There's no centering, there'sno belief system, there's no
hierarchy.
(09:05):
Everybody can do it immediatelyand be effective.
So you know, we've justcontinued, and when people ask
me questions, one of my mainanswers is I don't know.
Like when you ask me, how doesit work, I don't know.
Why does it work?
I don't know, you know.
I mean, it's just, it's sort oflike it's nice to say I don't
(09:25):
know, you know, and let peopleanswer the questions what works
for them, what makes it okay forthem to want to practice this
with their family and theirfriends.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Absolutely.
Can you maybe share some reallife stories or examples of
individuals who have experiencedremarkable transformations or
healing through BioTouch?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
individuals who have experienced remarkable
transformations or healingthrough BioTouch.
Yeah, so we'll take twospecifics that come to mind.
One is my mother, who shepassed out in the hospital.
They took her to the emergencycare.
They put a pacemaker in.
Next thing I'm in Hawaii withmy brother and she's in Denver
and we get a call.
She basically coded, theypunctured her heart, put her on
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the operating table.
Couldn't, they said, her heartwas like a eggshell.
They couldn't get enough bloodto her brain.
She died on the table,basically came back to life by
the time I got there.
They said if she lived she'd bea vegetable.
She was in a coma for threeweeks and I'm doing the BioTouch
around in ICU, around themachines.
(10:27):
So during that whole time shenever had to take metabolic
medication.
I kept her kidneys going andher metabolism going.
If the blood pressure startedwhacking out and they were going
to give her some kind ofmedicine, I said wait and I was
able to do the blood pressureset and watch it level out.
When she came out of the coma.
(10:47):
Finally she couldn't stand.
They had to put her in a box todo PT and basically the short
of that story was six monthslater she was walking on a beach
in Hawaii and a year after thatproblem she went.
We were at there was a hurricanecoming in Hawaii.
We had to go to thecardiologist for a yearly
checkup and he says to me hesays you know she has the heart
(11:11):
of a 20-year-old and when I toldhim what had happened he said
that's impossible.
There's no heart damage showingon any of our tests.
So that's a major one.
(11:40):
And what I learned by being inICU and watching all these
families feel helpless andhopeless and afraid.
I really made the commitment toget this to families, to give
them something to do while theirloved ones were in situations
that they had no control over.
And you, being a nurse, knowhow difficult that is for family
members when their loved one isgoing through a major,
catastrophic problem.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Absolutely.
And what's your other story?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The other story is real simple.
This woman calls us up, shewants a manual with the DVD.
This was maybe 20 years ago.
She'd never done healing workbefore.
She'd never done healing workbefore.
So I sent it to her and shetold me that when she got it she
was taking care of her grandson, who was 10, and her
granddaughter who was six.
And she got it and she had thisterrible sinus headache.
(12:17):
And so she said to the kids hey, I just got this thing, I got
this headache, let's watch itand let's have you do this on me
.
They all sat around, put theDVD in and they learned how to
do the greeting and the sinusset and her headache immediately
went away.
This 10-year-old boy did it onher.
So that to me is a real miraclestory too that somebody could
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learn it so quickly and have hergrandkids help her.
That's a touching story.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So one of the things that I think is amazing about
BioTouch Healing is that it'sknown for its accessibility and
its inclusive nature.
So, as anyone can learn andpractice it like you just kind
of mentioned that, can you maybeprovide some simple techniques
or practices that our listenerscan try on their own to
experience the benefits ofBioTouch?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Well, what we can do is we can teach.
We have a set for manydifferent areas of the body,
like a sinus and an eye set.
We have a heart and bloodpressure.
We have back set metabolism,lungs, a headset for the brain,
but the key to the whole systemis what we call the greeting,
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and we're going to teach thatright now.
And you said you wanted tolearn it too.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I do, I do, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And this is the key to the system If all you could
do is this, and then we'll showyou how to do very local kind of
work.
So what you do is you take yourindex and your middle finger of
your dominant hand Okay, oh,you're a lefty too.
Yes, all right.
So you want to take that fingerand now you're going to on your
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skin, on yourself there.
If you've got somebody next toyou, tell them to lift their
shirt a little bit so you canget to their tummy.
And you want to find a pointthat's just below the breastbone
.
So you feel that breastbone,you go down and it gets real
soft just below the breastbone.
That's what we call point one.
You want to hold that like abutterfly, no indentation, for
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six to eight seconds just belowthe breastbone.
That's what we call point oneof the greeting.
You now want to take that samehand.
Okay, and this is the only partof the system where you use one
hand.
You take that same hand and yougo just behind your neck and if
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you follow your neck down, itcomes to a big bone just right
at the shoulder level and you goto the left of that big bone
about an inch to an inch and ahalf to the left of the big bone
.
Some people know that as C7,but we just call it the big bone
, so you can see it's all realsimple talk.
I love that.
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The big bone.
So you can see, it's all realsimple talk.
Okay, those two points six toeight seconds to each one starts
a healing process.
We have a challenge we give topeople.
If you just did the greetingwith someone and they did the
greeting to you, it wouldtransform your life after 21
days.
That's a healing process.
That happens.
It takes you 30 seconds each.
So no, six, eight, it wouldtake you 15 to 20 seconds to do
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that with another person.
Biotouch, again, is one persontouching another.
For a lot of people who say,well, what if I don't have
anybody, what we say is well,you still can do the points, but
think of somebody doing it toyou.
This is a healing techniqueabout relationship.
It's about us relating inhumanity to one another.
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The idea of self-healing is anice concept, but it starts
separating us and we want tobring touch back into society,
back into humanity.
So just by doing that greetingyou're starting a healing
process.
You could then take the twofingers.
If you didn't know anythingelse in our little manual you
could then just take two pointsand let's say somebody had a
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neck ache, then you could justtouch on either side of the neck
on that muscle and just do afew sets of points and then you
could even slowly sweep.
That means slowly anddeliberately move your fingers
across an affected area, anddirection doesn't matter.
You can come from the and youcould go anywhere on a body.
(16:35):
Let's say somebody has anarthritic elbow.
You could just touch around theelbow, you know, with both
hands.
Or if it's a sinus thing andyou don't know the sinus set,
you could just touch around theelbow, you know, with both hands
.
Or if it's a sinus thing andyou don't know the sinus set,
you could just touch around thesinus.
But everything's slow, light anddeliberate.
That's what you can do just bylistening to us.
If you wanted to learn more.
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And you can download thatgreeting from the website and it
doesn't cost anything, there'sa little link on the right
download the greeting.
And if you just practice thatyou, I think you'd really start
to notice it.
Just you, you just watch peopledoing that and they just go.
Ah, there's a moment of breath.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Oh, I love that.
Thank you so much for showingthat.
So you kind of brought upsomething about like an
emotional connection andbringing connection back.
So, in your opinion, what roledoes the touch play in the
healing process, both on aphysical and an emotional level?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So we pride ourselves on addressing the body.
Okay, people's emotional,spiritual life is their path and
everybody knows what they needto do.
They just don't trust it.
You know, and by addressing thebody, the body holds all of our
(17:57):
issues, issues, and that's hugenow in the psychological work,
emotional work, spiritual workthat we call epigenetics.
You know, you can change thecells by changing the dialogue,
and the dialogue is about love.
And when you just love the body, then the messages start
(18:18):
changing and the body can heal.
So we, in our presentation,address the body and then we let
people's own self-awareness,which unfolds itself over time,
dictate where it is they need,what they need to do, what they
need to eat.
I mean we don't address.
You know, I've worked withpeople.
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They were total meat eaterstheir whole life and all of a
sudden they were desiringbroccoli.
I've worked with people.
They were total meat eaterstheir whole life and all of a
sudden they were desiringbroccoli.
I've met total vegetarians whoyou work on them and all of a
sudden they need a Big Mac.
And so it's not about laws ordiscipline, it's about your own
self-awareness.
And then, when you're working onthese different issues, I
remember working on a woman at adrug rehab community and we
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were working on her shoulder andshe started bawling, just
bawling and bawling, and all ofa sudden she had that memory of
when she was raped and waskicked in that shoulder and she
was able the next day to go toher group because they had daily
groups and share thatexperience.
The pain was gone, you know,and she'd had it for years.
(19:23):
So the beauty of it is if youjust address the body and trust
that people will find their ownpath.
They do and and they and theyfind the other practitioner.
They might need a chiropractor,they might need a, uh, they
might need to take anantidepressant, they might need
you know, whatever, but they'll,they'll meet the person they
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need to meet and we don't needto recommend or diagnose.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I just think that's amazing.
And one of the things that youbrought up in the beginning was
that you know, if you do learn ahealing modality and then if
you use it and it doesn't workper se, then we get those
limiting beliefs and you're likelisten, this, this, I don't
have to, we don't have tonecessarily explain how it works
, it just does and you can tryit out for yourself and I, and
it takes away that pressure ofyou have to know everything.
(20:12):
Like I just that's such abeautiful way to do that.
Like I just think that's soamazing and and I liked that it
sounds like it's a very nonjudgmental way of healing, like,
oh well, rachel, you don'tdrink six glasses of water and
you don't take your vitamins andyou don't do this.
It's like it's going to meetyou where you're at.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Right, and that's it's so important right now,
because we're inundated withthings we do you know, you know,
I mean, my brother was justdealing with some lung cancer
issues and the last thing heneeded was more ideas on what to
do, you know.
And so I just got his wife andhis daughter to work with him
(20:53):
and he's beginning to heal andhe did some standard practices.
You know some people they'll dobiotouch and they'll decide I
don't want to do standardpractice anymore.
You know I'm OK.
So you know, to encouragepeople to trust their own
intuition is so important.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It really is so.
The old paradigm that wealthequals health is no longer
effective and there's a growingdemand for you know choices in
healthcare.
Like I, as we discussed before,I run a doctor's office and
there's always room for holistichealing, alternative healing.
How do you envision BioTouchcontributing this shift in our
views about health and healing?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
We talk about that a lot.
We have a Monday show, we doMondays with Bev and Paul.
We talk a lot about that.
You know, health is wealth.
You know, and the beauty ofBioTouch is the goal of wealth
is to learn to give it away.
You know, affluency isaffluency when we share it.
You know there's only so much Ican hoard in my life and then
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if I have the ability to havegood health or wealth, you know
that's my station in life and sohow can I share that?
And with BioTouch, the wealthof knowing how to do this
technique and then sharing it.
You know that all of us nowbecome wealthy.
We raise everyone together, youknow, because we're all now
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equal in the ability to help oneanother, and that's a very
wealthy society and a veryaffluent society.
So that's that's our goal is tojust get this to everybody so
that they can then turn on andshare.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I just think that's beautiful, because I'm sometimes
I feel like even providers.
They get stuck in justdiagnosing and prescribing
medications and you know, andit's like, are we really
addressing?
I mean, like you said a littlewhile ago, the body keeps the
score.
So trauma, you know, pain,everything our body holds it
(22:59):
until something like this, abeautiful bio touch healing
session, and then she has atrigger of a memory and then
she's able to let it go, like Ijust that's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
And the other thing that happens too.
So I was dealing with the oldprostate issues.
Right, you're in your midseventies and now they're taking
these PSA counts and all of asudden, boom, you got this
number.
The number means you got to dothis.
Now we need the biopsy.
But I've been doing BioTouchenough.
It gave me a sense of okay, I'mokay, let's take responsibility
(23:29):
for my own healthcare, let's dosome research, let's ask
questions, and BioTouch seems toempower people to work with
their healthcare practitionerand not be afraid any longer or
be the victim of a system thathas gotten so far out of hand.
And not because of the doctorswho really care or the nurses
(23:51):
like yourself, it's the systemitself that's gotten so crazy,
and BioTouch gives us theopportunity to work with our
healthcare, find other optionsthat work for us.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's so true, like where I am, we were mandated to
get the COVID vaccine, mandatedto get the flu shot, and it's
like our choice is taken awayfrom us.
You know, as a, as a humanbeing, like our rights, I feel
like, are it's like well, whocares?
We just got to push thisvaccine and it's.
It's a very awkward position tobe in.
(24:23):
You know, it's very unusual,unusual.
And you've brought up my, mypartner.
He himself has prostate issuesand I'm, I'm going, I'm gonna
actually bring this to him andsay, let's, let's see how this
goes.
I mean, honestly, like you know, like because he has to get a
biopsy and things like that, andI'm, I'm bringing this to him,
paul, I'm happy to talk to himabout what different things I've
(24:44):
been looking into.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
But, uh, you, but I think for me in that unknown, if
we deal with the prostate thing, it's it's allowed me to calm
down.
So if my wife works on me andI've just been to the urologist,
I'm able to calm down a moment.
I might still do what they'reasking me to do, and many and a
few times I haven't, and I'veactually changed a lot of the
(25:06):
numbers, which it's improved,but it levels me out and calms
me down to be able to look atwhat I'm being asked to do and
what do I really want to do.
And no, I'm gonna be okay, I'mgonna be okay, I'm still loved
and I can still love, and sothat's, that's a key to healing.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
And I like that.
It also it helps you to take abeat, like it helps you take a
pause, like it helps you to.
I mean, it's scary to be toldyou have this.
And then I feel like how thatmessage is even delivered for
patients and people that arehearing this traumatic news,
doing something like a bio touchhealing session can kind of
(25:50):
just all right.
Well, let's calm down, let'stake a moment, let's calm down
the system and then let's seewhat we need to do for next
steps, like that's amazing, andespecially for the family.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I remember we had this 16 year old who gave a
presentation and what she andshe shared, what she loved about
BioTouch when her mother wasgoing through.
Basically it was a terminalcancer situation, the chemo and
all.
It gave her hope and it gaveher a sense of participating in
her mother's healing and health,instead of her sitting back at
(26:24):
16 years old afraid oh my God,what's going to happen to my
mother.
So it gave them both the chanceto relate and take that breath
while her mother did all thedifferent interventions.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
That is amazing.
So you've been involved inteaching and spreading the
practice of bio touch worldwide.
Spreading the practice ofBioTouch worldwide.
Can you maybe share onerewarding aspect of your journey
in sharing this transformativehealing modality with others?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You know.
So it was on.
I was in Egypt and went on AlJazeera and people were calling
from all over which isinteresting as I'm thinking
about it what there's such chaosthere now, and we do have some
practitioners there now who aretrying to put different posts
about yes, we need BioTouch forthese babies.
Yes, you know, biotouch canbring peace.
(27:18):
You know, and that, to me, isvery fulfilling that we were
able to pass it on.
And when I was on this TV, thisradio and TV show, people were
bringing in questions and theyhad to translate it from Arabic.
I was able to teach andrecognize.
No matter where you are on theplanet, the one common
(27:44):
denominator is that we're allafraid and we're all suffering
and we just want to feel lovedand that everything's going to
be okay and to be able to teach.
Even just that greeting.
And you could just see, even inthe studio there, where the guy
(28:05):
who interviewed me said well,now, why should we believe you?
And the first thing I was ableto say is you don't want to
believe me.
This is not about belief, butlet's try it.
And to watch them, even on TV,just oh.
And the people that called inyou could just tell they felt a
little bit of relief, yeah, alittle bit of calm.
That to me, more than all thewow.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Look at what we did, you know just that moment of
relief is is worth it all to me.
I love that and it sounds likesuch a profound, like ripple
effect of you know of the workthat you're doing.
I love that.
It's like, okay, let's, we'rejust going to um move it all out
.
I love that.
That's amazing.
(28:46):
So, before I ask you the finalquestion, what is the best place
for someone to go to to learnmore about the BioTouch healing?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
You go to our website , justtouchcom.
It's very simple.
We have the ability to downloadparts of the manual for free.
You can get the whole thing.
You can get our ebook, whichyou just put on your computer.
It has links to a video toteach you how to do it.
It has the words that are easyto understand.
Also, we have lots of thetestimonials.
(29:17):
We have Monday shows that we'vedone for six years so, and then
you can just send us an emailif you have more questions.
You know so, and it's easy forus to zoom with somebody you
know, just to show you how towork on your husband's prostate.
You know, I mean it's we'revery accessible, but just
(29:37):
touchcom is the way to plug intous.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I love that.
So, paul, considering yourprofound expertise in bio touch
healing, what advice or insightswould you like for our
listeners to know that may beinterested in exploring this
approach to enhancing theiroverall wellbeing?
Maybe one piece of advice.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Trust that you're loved.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
That's beautiful.
I love that Honestly.
I'm sorry.
I know that Honestly.
I'm sorry.
I know that's simple, but it'sso profound, like it's, so it's,
I love that.
I love that.
Well, paul, I want to thank youso so much for coming on
spiritual spotlight series.
I am even more excited aboutbio touch healing and I
definitely look forward tospeaking with you again in the
future.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I hope so, Rachel.
Thanks for having me on andthanks for all your listeners.
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