Ep. #209 Client Spotlight : Maximum Potential with Monica

Did you know it's okay to laugh about your struggles and being drunk? Turns out it's  a solution to your reaching your maximum potential.

In today's light hearted, value packed, podcast episode #209, there is a lot of laughing, so don't miss it.

I interview my amazing client, Monica to share her triumph to accessing maximum potential.  Monica shares about how growing up in Spain and traveling the world as a dancer, alcohol was never even questioned as something you wouldn't do. It was everywhere, all the time.

As she shifted carriers to land in Germany with her husband and open her own Pilates studio, alcohol become more of a necessity that she felt controlled by.  Most days were filled with low energy and anxiety about the beautiful life she had created. 

She knew her attempts to do it alone hadn't worked and she needed support because she was exhausted from the daily cycle she was stuck in.

The moment Monica joined my private program, she felt instant relief: The day has finally come, was her thought.

Some of the topics Monica shares from her experience today:

• Opening your perspective and taking responsibility. 
• It’s just your thoughts and your choice. 
• The first month of feeling good. 
• Stress created by alcohol. 
• The importance of having a belief goal.
• The value of a coach’s support. 
• Knowing who your drinking companions are. 
• The first holiday she had alcohol-free. 
• You can change your beliefs by changing your thoughts. 
• The benefit of failure.

Plus so much more.  Come to be inspired, stay to create change.

Monica, thank you for being such an graceful example of what's possible!

Enjoy the show!
Mary

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DISCLAIMER: This podcast and its contents are not a substitute for rehabilitation, medical treatment or advice. It is for educational and inspirational purposes. I am not a therapist or doctor. The views here are expressed a personal opinion and based on first hand experience. Please consult a doctor if your mental or physical health is at risk.

Episode Transcript

Unknown (00:01):
Do you ever feel like you're outgrowing alcohol, that
you are longing for a deeperconnection to life? If alcohol
is keeping you playing small andfeels like the one area, you
just can't figure out you are inthe right place. Hi, my name is
Mary Wagstaff. I'm a Holisticalcohol coach who ended a 20
year relationship to alcoholwithout labels, counting days or

(00:23):
ever making excuses. Now I helppowerful women just like you
eliminate their desire to drinkon their own terms. In this
podcast, we will explore therevolutionary approach of my
proven five shifts process thatgets alcohol out of your way by
breaking all of the rules andthe profound experience that it
is to rediscover who you are onthe other side of alcohol. I am

(00:48):
so thrilled to be your guide.
Welcome to your journey ofawakening. Good, good.
Okay. Welcome back to the show.
My beautiful listeners, I am sothrilled to be bringing you a
really inspiring interview todaywith one of my amazing, just so

(01:08):
beautiful, inspiring to me,clients. Monica, thank you so
much for being here today.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you, Mary for theinvitation.
Because it's so it makes me feelso happy when we can create
these full circle moments forpeople. It's just what does that

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feel like for you?
I mean, it feels amazing. It'sso beautiful to have the spirit.
You never I never thought itcould be such a fulfilling this
energy. Is it you always thinkat the beginning, you will never
make it and it's so hard. AndAnd once you're in it flows and

(01:50):
it's so to beautiful energy.
Yes.
Oh my gosh, yeah. And you reallyexemplify it? Well, I think so.
So Monica, why don't we juststart by telling our listeners a
little bit about you things thatyou might feel relevant to
connect to the audience.
Well, I was a professionaldancer, through many years, 35

(02:11):
years of my life. I come fromSpain, and I travelled a lot
through all my life. I studiedin different countries and
cities, I was in all over inEurope, in USA, I was studying
as well in New York, I moved aswell back to Europe. So I was
always busy. I was a freelancedancer, so I always had to do

(02:33):
castings to get any jobs. And Ileft Spain very young, I was 18.
And then at the end, I stillstayed in Germany, I have a very
good company. Now then at theend, which I stay for 10 years,
the last 10 years of my career.
And then I opened also a companymyself, I was also producing

(02:53):
with dancers and musicians. Andmaybe now seven years ago, I
stopped dancing. And, and it wasit was inside me it was not
because I was getting old I was43 or something like that i i
felt i need to move on toanother other things I really

(03:13):
was satisfied with I have doneand I had the necessity to
explore other things, althoughother fields. So it was also a
difficult moment. It took me oneyear to realize it was a
transition year to find myselfinto other places or also

(03:35):
fields. I was able to transitionit feels difficult. But now I'm
very happy. And now here I justopened. I had two studios of
Pilates. And I worked also withpersonal training very focused
into people who have backproblems or bodies problems. And

(03:56):
I'm very happy with thesituation right now.
That's amazing. Yeah, I mean,and like I see that for you.
Your desire for growth, right?
There's, and knowing that thetime has come to change, right.
There's something else. I wasjust talking to Matthew, my
husband about this this morningsaying, whenever I feel

(04:18):
resistance to something, I knowthat I'm curious about that. I
know there's resistance there.
That to me is such a sign thatI've got to go find out that
there's more life there'ssomething I don't know, I
haven't a new experience Ihaven't had yet right and and
I've experienced that with youand your in your spirit. And it

(04:39):
seems like that's kind of whatbrought you here too. So, so
awesome. Yeah, so tell us so. SoI just wanted everyone to kind
of have a context for who youwere and where you are in the
world. But tell us a little bitabout your alcohol journey and
I'm sure how that interweavesinto, you know your career and
everything too. SoWell, first of all, I think

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starts in Spain, alcohol anddrinking wine is a cultural
thing. It's seen like, yeah,it's something that cultural,
good red wine in Spain is veryimportant to have it in the
dinner. So it starts when you'rea teenager going out on the
weekends, and then gettingdrunk. Not with wine, but you

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see it just the alcoholeverywhere, every buddy drinks.
So it's just normal. And then asteenager, you go out and you get
drunk Friday evening, you go tothe disco, you get drinks, you
dance, and then you get drunk.
And this is the the normalthing, what everybody done in

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that time, when you do what youdo in the weekends, you know,
and well after that, with thewhole dance scene, also many
artists goes also into after thestage, you go for the party
after the premiere, or whatever.
So alcohol was always veryinvolved. And of course, I
always liked it to drink. And Ialways drink alcohol after,

(06:03):
after all my performances or,and then slowly, I felt with the
time that I was getting, itwasn't adjust, sometimes. So I
had the feeling I had to have itregularly. So that it was every
day, even if I didn't run somuch. But every night to three
glasses of wine with a dinner.

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Because I reserve it I had ahard day and I was working so
and then in the pandemic becameeven worse. I think this was
like the top week because thenit's not that you go out you
have two glasses of wine in thedinner. So you come home with a
bottle of wine, of course. Andit's easy to finish the bottle.

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Because I still a little bit sojust get no and then you don't
have so much work because wewere closing the studio. So the
whole situation created as aslike, in a moment where it was
the alcohol was the best I coulddrink I the best I could do.
Right? And of course, then withthe time you feel you're

(07:12):
suffocating yourself in thatidea that you need to drink.
Yeah, I think you're not reallyconscious. You just say, well,
everybody does it. No. Andtonight I work I function I can
do my life. Normally. I saw anight when I come home and I
have my two three glasses ofwine. And in the weekend, of

(07:33):
course more. That's normal, whateverybody does. So you don't
question yourself so much. Youjust let it happen like
everybody does.
Yeah, yeah, you just let ithappen.
And I think the way youdescribed this progression is so
common, it's very unintentional.
It's like you start drinking asa kid and we're not. You don't

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even see any other option.
Right? It's just that's what youdo. And then it's in your
career. And then and then likeyou before you, you know before
you know it, like you saidyou're suffocating between these
two different beliefs, you feelsuffocated by it. But at the
same time, it's you think it'sthe best thing for you? No, it's

(08:17):
you think it's the only it's allyou've kind of got left? Sure.
Yeah. And I think that that'sthe piece of it. That's so hard
for some people that at onepoint, it didn't really feel
like a problem, a problem. Butthe nature of alcohol and then
of course, the nature of you asa growing, maturing human on the

(08:42):
planet is also going to changeand have different needs and
your body changes and respondsdifferent and we never, we don't
factor that in to change. Like,change is always happening. So.
So tell us, how long was itapparent to you that you wanted
to make a change? Even if it wasjust something you had been

(09:02):
thinking about? That you didn'tyou weren't liking the results
that alcohol was giving you?
Well, I guess I always when youhave a hangover, the next day
you think that said I don't wantto drink anymore. And then the
days goes by you feel better andyou start to drink again. So
every I mean every time with ahangover, you're saying you're

(09:25):
going to stop this terrible, youfeel horrible. You don't want to
smell the Asko the outcome and20 hours later you're drinking
again. Yes. And and I thinkslowly I felt I really felt much
more. My energy was getting verylow. I was getting not

(09:47):
concentrated. I was always verynervous. I felt my body I was I
start to observe a myself. Howdo I feel? But you don't think
that this is the alcohol youthink that this is you you
Getting old, you're tired, youdon't have so much energy. And
you find 1000 excuses thatthat's the problem and not the

(10:08):
ankle.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And what Ifind that's really quite sad
actually, is that when onedrinks regularly 20 3040 years,
that low level of energy is whatpeople become used to. And you
know, when I meet with people, alot of times they think, oh, no,

(10:29):
alcohol is it's affecting thisway. I don't sleep at night, but
it doesn't affect all theseother things. But what we've
come to find out, right is whenyou take it away, it's like,
whoa, like, wow, there I am.
Right. So what, what was thepoint in the decision or the
thought, I guess that had youreaching out to do this work?

(10:51):
Like, what was the tipping pointfor you?
The tip, I mean, I remember Iwas in Spain, having a holidays,
and I was some I want it to besome days alone. Because then I
know my whole family comes andit's like, an explosion. And
then I always I have three daysby myself before. And three days

(11:15):
after they got the I can justcome down. And then I think this
was the main thing I alwayswanted to stop. But I always
couldn't. And I tried differentprograms. And I listen to
different podcasts, and I readbooks about it. And I thought,
maybe that's my destiny, I willdrink until I die. So you think

(11:37):
I thought maybe I'm not strongenough that you put yourself in
question. And it's not that hedidn't, I didn't try it before.
But then in I remember inholidays, I say, Okay, what's my
next project? And I say, to stopdrinking, I don't want to stay
every night in the terracehaving two, three glasses of

(11:59):
wine because I need to drink andnot because if alcohol doesn't
give you any other option, youhave to drink. Yeah. And it's
not never enough, a littleglass, you always need more. No.
And I remember was in thisholidays, and I was searching
for new information podcasts. Iwas trying to see maybe I should

(12:21):
go to REI. And nothing wasconvincing me and then I find
your podcast. And then I startedto listen to your podcast. And
then I was I remember, I wasputting my headphones on this
beach and listening to 567podcasts. And then I did a
meeting with you. And then Ithought that it was really like,

(12:41):
Finally, no, no, what's the namein English, when you have a
ticket, like I have a problem,or I have an alcoholic. With all
these words, I already wasblocked, I could not enter into
another part of my my mind. Soall these other programs have to

(13:03):
do a lot with these alkalis Mozuproblem, whatever now. And the
first time I was listening toyours, it was the opposite. It
was opening my mind it was likethe relationship to alcohol
without giving any other meaningwrong, that good or whatever. So
it was really like soft. I feltso free by listening these words

(13:25):
that I totally, totally get intomy body, your words. And then I
remember I had a meeting withyou and I really felt so that's
the words I needed to listenthat I'd opened into my mind
other fields that I could changesomething in my mind now. And I

(13:46):
remember very well I said aftertalking to you and having the
decision, okay, we'll make adate. When I stop drinking, and
I fix a date. I remember I wasstill in Spain. I remember I
woke up and I thought finallythe day arrived and I was so

(14:08):
happy. And of course is a youhave to work a lot in your cell
is a project. And but it wasnever one day that I thought oh
my god, why do I do it? It neveris like go go forward. Look
forward. Yeah. Yeah. And the carthe cravings disappeared like

(14:32):
everything. Yeah, nothing isforever. We also will be gone.
Oh my gosh, it's so good. Firstof all, I love thinking about
you on the beach in Spainlistening to the podcast. It's
just cool to think that that'shappening. But really what I'm
hearing you say is that theperspective you had about

(14:57):
quitting drinking was so narrowand put You in this other box
and felt so restricted that whenyou because the five shifts
process is all about openingyour perspective and taking,
because what I find with otherrecovery programs without shame
or judgment that alcohol staysat the center. And with this

(15:18):
program, which I don't even calla recovery program, it's an
awakening program, you go in thecenter, right? So you in the
center of your life, right? Andso alcohol can take a backseat
for a second. And it's like, Whodo I want to become? You know,
not in light of alcohol, but inlight of myself and my life.

(15:39):
Right? So it's like, we're noteven making decisions for
alcohol anymore. And I'll tellyou that experience that you
have so many people assume, Ialways say that signing up, is
the first breakthrough becauseyou've made a decision to start
to do something new. Right? Youmade a decision to learn a

(16:00):
process. And most people whenthey get here are in so much
relief. They're like, Oh, mygosh, thank God, I finally like
the same thing. It's just Yes.
And so so much of the desire foralcohol right from that starts
to go away just from thatdecision. It is so powerful. And
so many people think that theyhave to be ready to let it go.

(16:21):
But what I what I always remindpeople is you're ready to let it
go. After the process, right?
Like now, you can say I've letalcohol go right. And in some of
you was ready to change, but youlearned how to not want it, you

(16:42):
had to learn how to let it thatmove through the attachment move
through the desire, right? Andso it's it's like the backwards,
right? It's like you can't youcan't you don't start a diet.
After you lose the 15 pounds,you got to stop no diet and
then lose 15 pounds. Right. Soexactly. Yeah, yeah. So that's

(17:04):
part of it. So tell me, um,because I think it's good to
know what challenge I mean, it'spretty obvious what the
challenges that you face, likeyou said, just that you were
drinking all the time, butspecifically, what challenges
were you facing? Like before youstarted? And then what became

(17:25):
much more simple and easier thatyou thought was impossible?
before?
Before I stopped drinking, youmean? Yeah,
like when you would go out? Or,you know, just this kind of kind
of constant mental exhaustion,right? And then what how are you
approaching those same exactcircumstances differently with,

(17:48):
you know, the tools that we wereusing?
Well, the thing is, like, youhave to get used to the new
situation as well. And Iremember also the talks we had,
it was like, It's okay, to feelstrange and to feel lonely in
the beginning, in a conversationwhen everybody's drunk, and
nobody listens to you. It isokay. There is nothing, nothing

(18:12):
will happen is okay. And it's atthe beginning, it feels a little
bit like, Okay, I stay have awater with lemon and I don't
know, kind of like you don'twant to you're afraid. You're
afraid it's normal. If you havea new state of life and a new

(18:33):
state of being No, it's normal,you're afraid because you don't
know what's going to happen. Butthen, when this happens, after
is more thinking than when youare there. Right? If you prepare
yourself and you think oh godand what I'm going to drink,
everybody's gonna do it. Andthen you are their coffee or so
and then you stay maybe untiltwo o'clock and that's fine. Is

(18:57):
more than I thought we haveabout it than the moment itself.
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So howdid you get yourself in those
situations? I mean, that's oneof the things is telling
yourself, it's just yourthoughts, right? It's not you
know, that's one of the thingswe do is like plan ahead of
time, how do you want to feelwhat do you want to pay
attention to and focus on whileyou're there? So just for our

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listeners to have that as a aseven a tool or a tip like when
you were going out some of thosefirst times where did you Where
did you take your mind insteadof fully thinking oh my gosh,
I'm not drinking. What was theshift in perspective that you
had to have to still enjoyyourself?
Well, first of all, I justremember is my choice. I'm

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choosing not to drink. I can Imean I can over there now a
glass of wine I can start againall over again and I will keep
on going in a circle my wholelife. What do I want that? No.
So I have to change something isso I think as soon as I remember
It is my choice. Of course I canif I want, but is my choice?

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What do I want? I want to meetmy highest self, I don't want a
die thinking, I drank the houseof my life away. I want to see
the maximum potential potentialof myself. I don't want to miss
that. It's only one life wehave. And I don't want to miss
that. Yeah. And I, when youreally, I think you focus into

(20:30):
that. And I remember I waswriting sentences that I always,
they were so powerful. The talksI had with you that when I read
them, it was right, where thereis my choice. What do I want
from life? Is this bringing methere now? Okay, then and focus
into something else? Yeah. Andthis helped me a lot.

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I love that. And I think that itwill, what we talk about, right,
our thoughts create ouremotions, and that is how we
drive our actions. So it is somuch of the thoughts, I'm going
to miss it, it won't be thesame. Just those words, when you
say them in your brain is theonly thing that creates the
emotion. Right. And they're likeyou said, there is a transition

(21:12):
period, because it's new. Butnew, indifferent doesn't have to
mean bad. Just new and differentway of being with yourself,
right? And so when you'rethinking those thoughts ahead of
time, and you're projecting intoforever land, which I always say
don't go there, just don't gothere right now. Go there, when
you know, you're caught moreconfident. But when you project

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into forever land, your body isis only reacting to your
thoughts. It is not reacting toa real circumstance. Right,
right. And so that's soimportant to point out, it's
just your thoughts. And if youkeep thinking those thoughts
when you're there in thesituation, yeah, it's going to
feel worse. But if you bring inthe thought, This is my choice,

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I want to maximum potential.
Like this is different. Andthat's okay. You actually
literally think those thoughtsin your head. They feel so much
different. Right?
Right. Totally. Hey,what do you just say? It's okay,
that this is different. Oh, nowI'm just straight.
Yeah. So the thought that youwhen you are admitted, and you

(22:19):
don't feel good anymore, youleave. So that's what one you
know, it's nothing wrong withthat. Everything. Everything is
possible.
Everything's Yeah. Yeah, cuzyou're not staying right. Like
those late nights out on theveranda. And you had some of
that, right? You had some ofthose nights visiting and doing
all of that stuff. Like youliterally just stop doing

(22:41):
anything?
No, I go out with the onlydifference is I get bored
earlier, because the alcoholkeeps you just into a mood. Then
at the end, you don't rememberanything. When you drink the
thing you do remember noweverything but then there is a
point where you say, Okay, Ihave enough. I'm tired. Yeah, I
go. I go to sleep. It's fine.

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Right? Yeah.
And yeah, different things in adifferent way of being. No, it's
not like when you're drunk. Andyou do you think that this is
fun, but when you watch theothers you don't really think
through is fun. And when you seeit from the outside? No.
Oh my gosh. Yeah. That examplejust tells you to that the

(23:26):
alcohol is actually keeping youaway from your, your own body's
wisdom, right? At MIT, you know,yeah, some nights like I've been
out a few times recently, canstay up a little bit later. But
then it's like, no, I'm, I'mgood. Right? You feel satisfied?
And knowing I got what I camefor. My body's telling me it's
time. Everyone's drunk. I'm outof here. Yeah.

(23:49):
Yes, yes. Um,I wanted to ask you a little bit
about the embodiment piece of,you know, even being home at
night, you know, cooking dinner,or just Trent, you know,
transition, that time oftransitioning and experiencing
the sensations in your body ofmaybe what those thoughts that
we talked about, because gettingused to, you have to get what we

(24:10):
what we work on is learning howto discern the thoughts that are
just thoughts, versus the truthof what you really want. But
because those thoughts arethere, and they create a
sensation in your body, I thinkis real is what is a challenge
for people, then it makes it soreal because there's you're

(24:31):
experiencing something in yourbody. And before if you can't
look at it from an observerperspective, you have to, you're
just like, oh, this is a factthis is real. It's happening in
my body. So the brain interpretsit as real. So when you're
experiencing those sensationsfor maybe some resistance or you
have an urge or craving or justthe newness of things, what does

(24:52):
that what did that look like foryou to be in your in your body
and not drink?
Well, it feels I mean, it feltalways good. Very good. I never
had the opposite. You think I'mgoing to be crabbing? No, the

(25:13):
only thing I had, maybe I hadthe need of more sweet things at
the beginning. Something more.
Of course the alcohol have somuch sugar that you need to
compensate that but with twoapples and one banana, you're
fine. You have the sugar youneed. Yeah, so, and you feel so
good. I think no, I'm sorry. Ithink the first month I had

(25:36):
quite a headache. I felt likethe body's detoxing. Yeah. And
it feels a little bit Olsenphysically, emotionally. I think
it I remember like the firstmonth is kind of like, like a
coating that is opening slowlythrough the mind. Now it's a

(25:59):
kind of like a vision of it'sokay, you're going there. You
feel like carefully going there.
But your body feels so good.
That there is no questionanymore. You just go there.
Yeah. Your skin is different.

(26:19):
Your eyes are glowing yourenergy if you have much more
energy you sleep wonderful. It'sit's only positive things that
you feel your body day by day isgetting such a so powerful that
you don't really question thatanymore.

(26:39):
Yeah, so it's easier to to allowthose thoughts that are there,
right, that might calm to justkind of come and go, because
you're focusing on how muchbetter you're feeling. And
noticing that right? Like,because we're because that's the
power of coaching and meetingweekly, right, from the time
that we met, is that we get toreinforce those things. And I

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think when you're on your own,it's easier if you're in your
brain and you're in thosethoughts, and you're believing
this, those thoughts of thehabit, those old thoughts, it's
easy to override the reallypositive things. And we want to
celebrate that as much aspossible, because that's what's
going to reinforce your desire.
And I love that image of thecurtain of your mind opening
because it is it's like thiswhole new world, right? You it's

(27:27):
this like, you almost feel likea kid again, like this adventure
that you're taking. But whenwe're little we're not conscious
of it, you know, we don'tremember being three, four, or
five, six, whatever. But as anadult, you get to have this
really profound experience oflike, seeing life again, for the
very first time, almost, I mean,it's really kind of quite

(27:49):
magical.
So yes, we can share that. Yeah.
Go ahead. And what also helpshelped me a lot is when we had
these meetings and we sometimesthis meditation about feeling
the emotion what is what is whenthis thought appears, and this
emotion is there, instead ofescaping that it is when it's

(28:13):
something we don't like, Okay, Idon't look at it. I just get the
phone or something Instagram,you get busy with other things.
Now look at it, don't run away,because then becomes bigger
these emotion if you don't. Andthis kind of meditations were
for me the cue to really, assoon as you get into the

(28:34):
mansion, you understand them allin motion, and you let it go.
It's transformed totally inanother energy. And this process
for me was like magical. Yeah,really magical. Through all your
coaching and feedback in and allthese guys. For me, it was

(28:54):
magical.
I'm so glad it are you know,we've been living with our human
emotions for our entire lives,but no one talks about them.
They're always just looked at asproblems. Right? I feel mad.
That's bad. I feel good. That'sgood, right? So we avoid pain,
we seek pleasure. We have noclue what our emotions are

(29:15):
telling us. But it's the same asour thoughts when you just sit
there to just be with them. Justto sit right just like we're
sitting side by side to having atalk. Again, like you said, it
releases the energy and then itliberates you and then the
energy transforms and theemotion and the thought that

(29:35):
came with it loses its power andit is a magical experience. It
feels really good and relaxing.
Actually. That's what I tellpeople. This is how you learn to
find relief on your own. Rightyou have a stressful day. And
oh, I can I can actually justfeel that stress and let it move
through me instead of tighteningup drinking by carrying it going

(29:58):
on the next thing and it is likefiles up piles and piles up
until you can't even thinkstraight anymore.
Right? And I think also, thestress you have when you drink
is the alcohol itself. Becausenow I'm stressed even more than
before. My business is glowingnow since I stopped drinking,

(30:21):
because of course, you have muchmore energy. You were more you
give more. So the energy goesback to you. And at the end of
the day, I'm super tired, butI'm like, getting home having my
tea. And then I'm thinking,Well, I'm, I'm not so stressed
like I was before. That all thestress was created by the

(30:45):
alcohol itself. That you thinkoh my gosh, I'm so stressed. I
have to have a drink. And thenand then I'm so happy I have to
have a drink. Oh, I'm terriblytired. I have to have a drink
for any situation. Always.
Alcohol is welcome. So you knowwhat I mean? And the alcohol
itself is what it's what createsthe situation? Yeah, yeah.

(31:07):
Because all all the all thealcohol business, please. All
the corners of everything. Yeah,that you can please everything
through alcohol. It's just awonderful thing, you know. So to
dissociate this idea is what ittakes time to learn and other
ways of seeing that. It's aprocess is a process just like

(31:30):
everything in life. Yeah,processes. Absolutely.
So what is your belief nowabout? So if alcohol doesn't
solve all your problems? What isyour belief now about that?
Well, the alcohol creates allyour problems. This is my

(31:52):
belief. Now. All the problems Ihad was created by not sleeping
well. Waking up with hangoverheadache going to, you know, all
this stress I had it was createdby the alcohol. And this is my
belief. Now, do I want that inmy life? No way. So get rid of
it. Bye. Bye. Yeah, well,I remember one thing you said

(32:16):
that was so simple. And it'sjust the facts. You said, I'm
happy. I feel happy right nowwithout alcohol and when with
alcohol in my life, right? Notthe act of drinking. But with
alcohol in my life, I was nothappy. Yes, and it's just it's
pretty basic. But it's if youcan really own that truth. With
alcohol, I'm really not happy.

(32:40):
I'm, like miserable every dayand suffering and suffering even
more from the thought of notdrinking creates so much
suffering. But once you gothrough the process, which was
pretty quick, we got thererelatively for drinking for you
know, 30 years of your life ormore. Yes. It happens so
quickly. But you have to bewilling to take that, that that

(33:04):
then Right? And so So how doyou? What do you believe about
yourself now that you didn'tbelieve when alcohol was so
importantthat I have the strength to do
what I want to do. And I that Ihave the strength to take a
powerful decision, and just goforward with that decision. And

(33:26):
before I didn't believe inmyself, I thought I am not
strong enough. I maybe I have aproblem. Maybe it's my destiny,
maybe it's my sickness I have isyou always try to get things in
your mind that believes that.

(33:50):
But the belief now is that isonly you who can change is
yourself. And is a gift you giveto yourself. You give is like
the best gift you can ever giveto yourself in your whole life.
And I was I stopped smoking. Iwas a smoker as well. I stopped
drinking coffee as well. But thethe biggest biggest sensation

(34:10):
for me of freedom was to stopdrinking.
Yeah, it is such a gift. Itreally is such a gift that
I hope everyone gets toexperience. And I think we said
about take because I rememberyou taught saying this a lot is
like I take I took the position,I made a choice. And until we

(34:32):
actually make a decision and thedecision isn't that I'm never
drinking again. Right. Thatwasn't the decision that you
made. The decision like makes ithelps you take yourself
seriously enough that I'm goingto show up to do the work right.
Like the decision is that I'mgoing to I'm seeking to change.

(34:54):
I mean, I don't know how wouldyou say what the decision really
was?
The I think the decision wasBecause I want to meet the
highest self. Yes, I want thehighest version of myself. And
so what? Yeah. What do you needfor that? Yeah, I want to see
what is the maximum potential ofmyself? What can I do when I

(35:17):
have all my energy? And then Ifelt, okay, how to change these.
And the first thing was, likestopped drinking. The first
thing, yes, I knew.
So this is so important to pointout. So one of the things that
we do in the program is wecreate what's called a belief
goal. And I've talked about thison the show. And the belief goal

(35:37):
is what because there's not youcan feel the difference with
alcohol. But because we don'tcount days here, we know we go
through circumstances. There'sthis belief of your future self,
the future self that and youmake decisions from that place
from your future, right? To meetmy highest self, or I know my

(35:57):
highest self, so that alcohol,now you're not trying to solve
for alcohol, your intention isshifted to go to meet your
higher self. And when we knowthat's not in alignment with the
values of meeting your higherself, and that has more heart
more inspiration, moremotivation, then it just kind of

(36:20):
fades away. Like why why would iThis is the choice, you know.
And so I just want to I thinkthat that's so powerful to point
out is like the decision wasn'tto be, I'm never drinking again,
which, you know, when we'vetalked about future, the future
and everything, but the decisionwas, I'm here to meet my higher

(36:40):
self and to give myself a chanceF at knowing my potential in
life. And that is betweenawakening, awakening beyond
alcohol. And what you said aboutall of those, the thoughts of Do
I have a problem? Is it mydestiny, I had all of that
stuff, too. And most of thepeople listening have as well.

(37:01):
And that is one of the biggestdetriments that is also wrapped
around alcohol in our culturethat there's, if you're not
drinking, wanting a positivechange for yourself, is like
something has to be wrong withyou. It doesn't even make sense
when you talk about it, right?
Like, quitting drinking is thebest thing that anyone could do

(37:21):
for them. Why would somethinghave to be wrong with you, but
that narrative is there, and itkeeps you stuck? And it keeps
big alcohol selling you a bunchof booze, right? I mean,
the thing is, like, you feelstuck, I think that's the main
energy that you do the same, youwork, you come home, then you

(37:42):
have two, three drinks, and yougo to sleep, and you do nothing
else. And you always meet thesame people because they drink
also. And it's just, it's alwaysit's boring. It's always doing
the same. It's like, not at thebeginning when you don't drink.
Of course you think, okay, Idon't, I don't meet anybody. And

(38:05):
I just think I will be feellonely. And you think but it's
good to be alone. It's like,actually, it feels great to be
alone. So you discover you areafraid of things that after when
you did like, but that's great.
You know what I mean? And, but Ithink the I think what is
fantastic is the focus you aregiving to all this coaching is

(38:25):
that as you say the focus isyourself is not the outcome of
the cigarettes or whatever drugsare around you is what do you
want? You put yourself as themain goal. And this is what is
so powerful.
Yeah. Oh, yeah,but yeah, and I think this is
what me what got me like waslike yes, that's what I want to

(38:50):
listen. Yeah, that's what's forme the cue to say yes. It's not
about quitting or not quittingor whatever is about me. Yeah,
and I think this is for most forme the the cue to wow to open
myself.
Yeah, you put you as the maingoal. That is That's it. I mean,

(39:13):
that is the that is the truth.
And so tell and you know, Ithink that this is a piece of it
because you had to invest yourresources right? You had to
invest your time you had toinvest your money and your time
outside of you know, our one onone time together. So what what
was making what did it mean tomake that kind of investment for

(39:35):
yourself? And like, had you everreally done anything like that
before? I mean, I know you'vedone a lot of training and stuff
butno, I mean, investing investing
money and something like thislike okay, stopping drinking
alcohol never done it before.

(39:55):
And I remember at the beginning,I thought, maybe I can manage
alone. I I've had someconversations with you, and you
told me Don't give up. Try it.
And we find a solution how tomanage. And we find a great
solution. And I am the mostthankful person that I have met
you that you were telling meDon't give up. Go through that

(40:16):
way. Yeah. So of course, youalways try to think, No, maybe
not I do it alone, I justresearch on podcasts and read
something I manage alone, youdon't manage alone. It's good to
have a person you walk in withthrough this person with a
person who have been goingthrough the same. You don't you

(40:38):
feel this compromise, it buildssuch a beautiful energy inside,
that gives you the power to goon. You will have you know, you
have someone that anytime canlisten to you and understand
you. And this is very powerfulas well.

(40:58):
Yeah, yeah. So and, and then Ithink this is a good to point
out too, right? It's like, weall think that I can do it
alone. But you haven't, right?
If you could do it alone, after30 years, you would have figured
it out, right? And it's notbecause you don't have the
capacity to it's just that theprocess of coaching is like the
person on the other end is onlythere to help you believe in

(41:22):
yourself. Right? I mean, that ismy job. 100% is to show you that
you can do it. And because Ibelieve in you 100% Right, or I
wouldn't invite you to do thework, you don't have a chance
right now. Like, because I knowand I know how powerful it is.
So there's like what you talkedabout the guidance through the

(41:43):
emotional processing, rightplanning and strategizing, our
thoughts together your thoughtsand fears that come up and
really uncovering what thoseare? And then like, yeah, that
energy of, of continuing tobuild the, like inspiration for
yourself that that momentum foryourself. It's some of the to

(42:06):
some of the things I love aboutcoaching, too. What else? What
else do you think is the thatthis, this relationship offers
you that you wouldn't get onyour own?
Well, it and when you are byyour own, you are mostly only

(42:29):
that dialogue is within yourmind. And you know, the mind
have always these two sides,which are always arguing or nada
to each other. And there islike, okay, stop that. Yeah.
And, and to have a coach is likegoing out of that, of that. And
just having a dialogue tosomebody else and and giving you

(42:52):
this this other possibility,possibility of thinking or
feeling or behaving. And not tojust stay in your own walls.
This makes you to open up todifferent ways of thoughts
thinking. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Soit's much it's much more easy as

(43:14):
well. It feels it's not like,yeah, it's much more easy to
work through. Yeah,yeah, it makes the process more
manageable and easier, for sure.
And like, you know, I think thatthe relationship because we're
talking about something sointimate. And I'm, you know, I
think big, like you said,because I've been through it,

(43:36):
it's, it doesn't have to feel soscary, there's that relief of
being able to look at it from anhonest way that you don't have
to make excuses or defendyourself or any of that, that
keeps the truth from really justbeing revealed. And, you know,
one of the five, the five shiftsare all based on becoming the

(43:57):
witness, right, becoming thewitness consciousness. And
writing is another part of theprogram. Some people you know,
do more than others. But when weget it, like you said out of our
mind, and we we hear it, or wesee it on paper, or we write it
type it out. Now you've detachedyourself from it. Now you're not
the thought the thought is anobject that you can observe.

(44:21):
Right? And so I think thatthat's kind of what you're
talking about. It's like thethoughts and the emotions become
objects to observe andexperience, rather than being so
intertwined with it, that theyjust take you over and you lose
your mind and then you go andhave a drink.
Yes, yes. Yeah. And and thething also, that one thing I

(44:44):
always remember is like, it wasso good to drink. Why do I want
it to stop? If it was so greatto drink, like everybody says,
or fields? Why do I want it tostop for so many years? And this
brings you back to this momentof, you know, all these things,
and I think talking through you,it was for me just like giving

(45:10):
another dimension of my thoughtsas well.
Yeah, yeah, that's a greatquestion. If alcohol is so
great, that's a truth withanything. If there's something
that you keep coming back to inyour life that you're like, Oh,
I probably should stop doingthat. That's a red flag. Why
would you ever keep anythingaround a friend, a lover a job?

(45:31):
Like, life's too short for thatshit. So would you say that
there's any downside to gettingalcohol out of your life?
Downside, I mean, I could saythat. Maybe I need new friends
now. No, it's not. It's not adownside. I think he's another

(45:55):
phase of my life. Yeah, but Icould see that I had only
friends were drinking friends.
They were drinkers they weredrinking. And then we met for a
glass of wine. But it was notabout that person. It was about
drinking something. And thesepeople disappeared. Which is
fine. That's I have no problemwith that. I don't, I don't feel

(46:17):
lonely at all. I'm very happy tobe by myself. I love to spend
time with myself. And of course,you feel like in our little
hole, kind of like, okay, what'scoming next is like, when the
moon is full, and then goes downbefore the new moon start is
dark. And you don't see the moonthat is coming new. Is this
moment of oh, there is no moon,everything is dark. And but then

(46:41):
it appears new things newpeople, new interest. And it's
like everything in life is sobeautiful transformation of
things. No, yeah. And let it go.
Let it let it be kind ofYeah, let go and let it go and
see what happens. Right. And Ijust want to say that because I

(47:05):
know your story is that youknow, you have spent time with
your your friends. But it soundslike when it's revealed to you
is just knowing who you havemore of a connection with and
like who you may be never reallydid have a connection with.
Right?
Exactly. Now you differencereally the people you had they

(47:27):
were drinking companions andfriends. Now, you know, who are
your friends? And who are yourdrinking companions? Right. And
that's, it's good to know that.
Yeah, it's good to know that isjust, of course you think it's
changing things. And it's goodnews, when something changes in

(47:48):
means that new things willhappen. So yeah, just to be open
to that.
Yeah. And that's the thing. It'slike changes. I don't you know,
change is a good thing. I lovethe visualization of the moon.
It's like the silver lining,right? She always reappears
right? Just just when we thinkit's the darkest hour, the

(48:11):
silver lining appears and that,that trust happens only when you
get to know yourself when it'syou in your body in your life,
enjoying spending time byyourself and relishing in that
right. And that's different fordifferent people. Everyone's got
different energy. But I know forme, and I think you talked about

(48:35):
this too. It's like not alwayswanting to spend time by
yourself. And when you weredrinking and not really knowing
like, how do I spend time bymyself and then you do and you
give yourself that chance. Andit's so wonderful. It's such a
welcomed gift to have thatexperience. But that trust will
continue to come and you you'remore accepting of change and

(48:58):
you're more willing to gothrough these transformations.
When you learn these tools. Whenyou learn how to be with
yourself and with your lifewithout altering it all the
time. And altering it the needto alter it all the time is just
like you said it's just comingfrom a thought this buildup
thought of like freaking outthat we can't handle it and it's

(49:19):
really not that bad. Not to saythat people haven't gone through
really hard things and traumaand all of this stuff. But for
the most part, you got this likeyou're strong and it's it's just
an emotion, it's just asensation. You'll figure it out
right like you're gonna wake uptomorrow. So what else has

(49:42):
transformed in your life? Youtalked a little bit about your
business and you know, justenergy and stuff. But where else
have you really seen the impact?
Just like in some other subtleways that you were kind of
surprised that about that itreally affected
it When I think the most impactin my work, but because I'm

(50:06):
everyday there, and tell us alittle bit,
tell us a little bit morespecifically about how it's
impacted your work. Because Ithink this is really powerful
for people to hear, because workis such a big part of our lives,
we spend so much time doing it.
So tell us from yourperspective, how it impacted
work.

(50:26):
I can't really say it with wordswhy what happened, I just know
that from the moment I stoppeddrinking, my energy also
transformed the people therewhen I was talking to people and
relating to people, I was moreconcentrated, I had more
understanding the the feelingsyou have is different. And you

(50:50):
feel much more focused. So Iguess all these together made
that people felt felt better inthe classes, the energy was
different. And I guess all thesejust got together and that
influenced that. Then I wasattracting people. I will know.
There is nothing that I havechanged. I am having the same

(51:13):
schedule. I'm teaching the same.
The only thing I changed is stopdrinking. This has changed
everything is like a chain. Kindof.
Right. Yeah, it's a rippleeffect. Yeah. So and, but so
your experience, so at workfeels different. Because it's
energy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Andthen that's the thing. It's like

(51:37):
when we're experiencing moreenergy in the body, and in your
mind and clarity and all thatstuff. It's like the energy
you're putting out to theuniverse and to interacting with
other people is going to havethat impact. So, but on a day to
day, it sounds like it's abetter experience.

(51:59):
Your wins of course, it's itfeels amazing when you are in
this energy is so you feel sofree. And so powerful with that
decision as well. So it change.
I think, also people they seewhy Wow, you look different.
Have you been holidays? And no,I'm just working 20 hours a day.

(52:21):
Kind of liking. Okay, you know,like people see is your friend
as well, is it's just becauseyour energy is different. Yeah.
And tell us about your firstholiday because you had a big
birthday and a big holiday sincewe were working there. So tell

(52:42):
us like what you may havethought before? And what
actually like not before, butlike, not before you went. But
before we were working togetherwhat you thought that that would
have like looked like alcoholfree. And then what your actual
experience was like.

(53:02):
Okay, so before I stoppeddrinking human.
Yeah.
Well, I thought okay, we willhave a big party with a lot of
alcohol. And everybody will bedancing and then the next day we
will everybody have hangover.
And we will stay two days in, inthe house because for sure we
have hangovers. And and that'sit. Kind of No. And now I'd rent

(53:25):
a house in the south of Spainand invite everybody and I was
afraid to say to everybody thatat the beginning, I was afraid.
Please don't give me any alcoholfor present. I'm not drinking
alcohol. So everybody was likewhat? And I say is you can drink
as much as you want. I want Idon't have any problem. I can

(53:50):
drink. You can get drunk. Youcan get waste is your body, do
whatever you want. But I willnot drink. But you can I mean at
least one glass of wine for forjust for your birthday. No, it's
fine. I'm not suffering. I'm notgoing to jump off because I

(54:12):
don't have a glass of wine.
Because the people was like Howcould you cannot drink in your
birthday? No. So was and then atthe end. People were drinking
some people got drunk. We weredancing. I had my one liter of

(54:32):
water with lemon and some teaand some other drinks without
alcohol. And it was so beautifulto say I go to sleep and I
remember everything. And I willwake up tomorrow and I will not
have headache. And I woke up thenext day and I was really like,
I have no headache. It's sonice. Yeah. And it was

(54:56):
beautiful. You are more afraidabout the thought what will
happen that the city ritualitself.
Yeah, what did that feel likethat day of like celebrating
your birthday? Because it was abig birthday, right? Like a big
transition day. Everyone's therelike, what did that mean to you?
For me, it means like, is a newscycle of my life? And give it

(55:22):
was, it was kind of like I, thisis my present to myself to stop
drinking. And through that I'mgoing to give a new cycle of my
life. Something new will comeand will develop some words, or
maybe not. But at the moment,that's what I want to do. Yeah,

(55:45):
and it's very well, wonderful.
That'sa wonderful, yeah, I love that
I'm not suffering. And that'sthe truth. When you really look
like you have to look at thefacts around alcohol, you have
to really look at, you know,because people really hold on to
like, I just wish I could drinkmoderate, I just wish I could
have that one drink. And thenyou know, and it's like, well,
why, right? We want to know,what is that one drink? How is

(56:06):
that going to change yourexperience? Even if even if you
could, right? And the truth isthat you'd be thinking about it
all the time. But, but so whatright and because when you look
at the facts, your mind is goingto continue to suffer, create
suffering, when alcohol isinvolved. 100% If you want to
moderate, you're going to haveto always be thinking about it.

(56:28):
Or you could choose to just say,sia hit the road, and not be
suffering at all and not have tothink about it at all right?
Because going from you know,it's only been three months more
a little bit more than threemonths, maybe most four months
since we started. Yes. Where areyou? I mean, it was like you're

(56:50):
thinking about alcohol everyday. Right to Where are you now?
Now I think about alcohol maybeonce a week, when I go out and
we go for dinner on a specialoccasion. Well, everybody's
doing thinking,right. Yeah. And what's your
thought? What's the quote Thedifference though? In the
thinking?

(57:12):
The thought about? Yeah, oh,yeah. The thought is like I
first I say, I'm gonna say, Wow,everybody's drinking. Right? And
the first thing and I've donethat, okay, that's fine, then
I'm the only one with nodrinking. Okay.
Yeah. Right. So that's thething. It's not like, you

(57:33):
alcohol exists. So you're gonnahave I mean, still to me, you
know, it's been many years. AndI notice when I go like, I'm
going to a dinner tomorrownight, and everyone will be
drinking. It's, you know, in thecity. It's a restaurant on a
Friday night people are going tobe drinking. But like, I My
thought is just that people aredrinking. It's not I wish I was

(57:54):
drinking or I can't drink orthis is so hard, right? So it's
just the thought that's anobservation, and not a thought
that creates deprivation.
Not at all. It's just becauseyou suffer more while you drink
than when you stop drinking.
Yeah. Because you're alwayscontrolling trying to control.
Okay, it's five o'clock. No, no,I cannot start now having a

(58:16):
glass of wine. I will start atseven because then attend. So I
only have two glasses of wineand a half. Because tomorrow you
wake up at six and have to work.
And then drink three, becausethere's always one more. And.
And then, yeah, all day busyabout when are you going to
drink? How much are you going todrink? And what are you going to

(58:37):
do the next day and you aresuffering much more controlling
the alcohol than when you stopwhen you stop? It's like Ah,
finally, finally. Yeah, is is aliberation. It's really so
freedom.
So if if someone who's listeningbecause I just talked to someone

(58:58):
yesterday who had said this,someone who's listening thought
I could never do that I couldnever go out to dinner and not
have a drink. What would you sayto them?
That's that's their beliefs. Butthat's not the truth. I mean, I
think that you can change your,your beliefs by changing your
thoughts. Right. And if youbelieve that you can do it, you

(59:22):
will do it. Right. Yeah. So andI think some people sometimes we
not I'm not giving any criticizeto people. I'm introducing
myself into that. Yeah, thatsometimes I we stay in position
because it's comfortable. It'seasier to say, ah, is more
comfortable that I have aproblem, but maybe it's my

(59:44):
destiny and I cannot do that.
Right. That's in big bodies.
This is fear as well. To becomecomfortable. It's fear behind.
Yeah, and some, maybe we need toanother time or we need time to
get ready Eat, to understandthat it's also possible is a
matter of the period of yourlife you're living as well.

(01:00:08):
Yeah, yeah, it is true. I mean,but the you know, and I do think
that you're absolutely right,like such so much wisdom there,
it's just like the comfort, thecomfort of suffering, feels, you
think that it's better than thethan just the, the little bit of
newness to change, right? And ifyou can know that and have that

(01:00:31):
awareness is the reason thatthat feels scary is just because
it's different. And you'vegotten so comfortable in this
state. And that's not like,that's a sad, right. And I mean,
I was there, it's like, we getcomfortable in the state of, of
suffering and this thing kind ofcontrolling our daily actions,
right. So, you know, one of thethings you had told me because I

(01:00:54):
think the power is in now,right? Like, it's not going to
be it's actually going to beharder, the longer that time
goes by but like you said,there's a season for everything.
And but if someone's listeningto this show, they have the
awareness, right. And one of thethings that you said to me was,
why did I wait so long? Youknow, and then I asked you, why

(01:01:18):
did you wait so long? Do youremember what you told me?
No, I don't because I didn'tmeet you, I think.
Yeah, it wasn't because I didn'tknow that I could do it this
way. Right? Because, yes, it wasso much more simple. Not that it
you there was no work you had todo. But it was so much more
simple than you were tellingyourself. It was.

(01:01:40):
Yes. Right. And I think I thinkthe cue is through the approach
you do is like you putthemselves at the center, and
not the alcohol or not thewhatever else. Any problem
around and that's, I think thecue do make it possible.
Yeah. Yeah,it's so true. And like, that's

(01:02:00):
the thing we don't if we don'tknow, there's another option.
How can we do it right? It justfeels like sophomore suffering.
I'm now I have to be like analcoholic. And I've got to feel
terrible about it. It's justit's just a thought. It's just a
belief. Like, personally, for mewhat I think about alcohol, and
I probably said this on theshow, I think it's classy. I

(01:02:22):
think it's sexy. I like notdrinking. I think it's like wise
like I just for me, I put all ofthese characteristics with it of
the woman that I wanted to bealcohol free. I wanted to go
party still, I wanted to have agood time and look good and
glowing. And then I just did it.

(01:02:43):
And they didn't wait forpermission. And like the no one
stopped me like know whatnothing happened. They just
Yeah, yeah. And now you get todo it, too.
Yeah, yeah.
So just to wrap up just so much.
Congratulations on your amazingsuccess. It's been such an honor
and a privilege to work with youand to see you just like love

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your life. It's amazing. Whatwould you what advice would you
give to someone who had beenwho's like been thinking about
taking this leap to get on acall just to do something
different? With the program?
What would you say to them?

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To people who haven't, that theyare not in the program, you
mightlike to people that have been
kind of on the fence about maybesigning up and taking that first
step?
Yeah. Well, I will say to, tothem, you can only change
something by changing things inyourself like, don't do the same

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like you always do, justlistening to the same things
reading to the same thing. Sotry try to open new visions of
the same issues. And if youthink and even if you're scared,
just do it. What is a failure afailure is a learning process.
So it's better to fail than notto try at least you know that

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that's not the way for you youwill have to find another way.
But it's like at the end, Ithink is the is the important
thing is like is this the life Iwant to live? That do I have to
question yourself because at theend when we all die and our
energy will transform tosomething else. But in the

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moment we are dying, I think aretransforming I think the
question we will all be will askourselves did I live the life I
want to live and I think this isthe only moment you can really
die in peace with yourself tosay yes, i i try the best of
myself. I could doit Beautiful. That's so true.

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Yeah. So try it. It'sno regrets, right? And without
shame, right? I mean, we justmove forward and know that it's
all just different experiences.
But when we don't change, like Isaid, if there's resistance, if
there's something, there's morelife, there's something. And if

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you make it to the other side,and you're like, that's not for
me, then go back, right? Butchances are
sure, and there was the will,this will bring you somewhere
else. Nothing, everything you'redone. Even you think it was not
the right thing. This knowledgehad brought you to somewhere
else, is nothing more than fornothing. I believe that in life,

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so even if you say, Oh, this wasnot the right thing, or that's
not for me, that knowledge isalready enough to know what you
will select for the next time.
Yeah, yeah, that's right. Tryand do it. Do it. It's you will
love it.
Do you hear Monica? She'slaughing. We just laugh all the
time. And it's great. And justall of this energy. I know this

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is just like coming through thesound waves. So Monica, thank
you so much for your time andyour wisdom and all of your hard
work and all the beauty thatyou're putting out into the
world helping people be healthyand love their bodies and love
their life and feel good inthemselves. And I just can't
wait to see all the otheramazing things that you do. So

(01:06:27):
thank you for being here.
Thank you you for theinvitation. Mary thanks a lot.
Bye everyone.

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