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April 16, 2024 46 mins
In this special 300th episode of Success in Mind, I reflect on the incredible journey from its origins as The Empowered Life through its evolution to the Teri Holland Show and its current incarnation.   Intending to make this episode special, I initially thought of recapping favourite moments and guest tips, but instead, I chose to share a mix of personal health updates, professional reflections, and a future outlook.   I open up about my ongoing struggle with ulcerative colitis and my plans to launch a new podcast focused on health. Beyond health, I delve into my podcasting business and public speaking coaching, and the current direction of my business.    A lighter moment in the episode is my recount of the 'Great Canadian Debate' over poutine etiquette during a recent road trip, which offered a humorous yet profound reflection on Canadian culture. Despite the myriad topics, at the heart of this episode is a deep appreciation for the journey thus far, the lessons learned, the connections made, and the exhilarating path ahead.   Links: www.instagram.com/theteriholland  and while you're there, join my IG channel for the all the behind the scenes stuff from the show.    00:00 Celebrating Episode 300 04:08 A Personal Life Update 06:05 Launching a New Health-Focused Podcast 06:33 The Future of Success in Mind 13:57 Exploring the Idea of a Patreon Account 17:55 Deep Dive into Health Challenges and Solutions 26:54 Diving Deep into Podcasting and Public Speaking 31:45 The Great Canadian Debate 43:04 Final Reflections
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(00:00):
Welcome to episode 300of The Empowered Life.

(00:05):
Whoa, that was weird.
That was really weird, right?
I just, it's like I just went backeight years suddenly and was doing
the Empowered Life show, whichthen became the Terry Holland
show, which is now Success in Mind.
But that was really weirdand completely by accident.

(00:29):
It must be because I was reflectingon the last almost nine years of the
show and how I got to episode 300,and then the Empowered Life just.
slipped out.
I have to admit, I've beenavoiding this episode.
I was supposed to release it lastThursday, but I just couldn't

(00:50):
wrap my mind around recording it.
And then it was going tocome out earlier today.
And I just, I still hadn't recorded it.
And I just couldn't wrap my headaround what to say in episode 300.
So, well, here it goes.

(01:23):
Now in thinking about thisepisode, I kept thinking, what
would make episode 300 special?
How do I encapsulate 300episodes into one show and how
much this show has meant to me?
And I don't know that I can do that.
I reached out to my Behind the PodcastInstagram broadcast channel, where

(01:52):
I know some of you hang out, it's asmall but mighty group, which by the
way, you're welcome to join if youlike the behind the scenes stuff.
I reached out there and I said, what,what should I do for episode 300?
And one person suggested that I talkabout some of the best tips or the,
you know, favorite moments with guests.

(02:14):
And I thought that's a great idea.
But then I kept thinking about it and I'mlike, how do I even pick, how do I choose?
Especially this last year, I have reallyramped up having guests on the show,
and I've had so many amazing guests.
How could I ever summarizethat in one episode?

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And of course, the most recent onesthat I've had on, my most recent
guests, are the most fresh in my mind.
And so I felt like I was beingmore biased to those guests.
They're so fresh andpresent in my mind still.
So then I thought, well, that's notfair to other people who've been
on the show going further back.

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And some of my first guests, likeDi Manuel was my first guest.
And I thought, well, gee, should Ilisten to all those past episodes?
How, how should I do this?
And then I thought, what if Ileave someone important out?
I don't want to hurt any feelings, and Iwouldn't intentionally leave anyone out.

(03:16):
And then I just got myself sowrapped up in this that I thought,
well, I can't do that because Idon't want to leave anyone out.
And I don't want to miss somethingimportant or overlook someone important.
And I don't want to have bias towardsthe most recent episodes I've done.
So I'm just not going to do that.
I don't know, guys.
Like, I don't know.

(03:38):
I don't know what to talk about today.
And so I almost didn't do it.
I almost just skipped ahead to my next prerecorded guest interview, but I thought,
no, episode 300 should be just me.
So I don't know.
I don't know what you're going to gettoday, but I'm just going to share
where I am in life, where I am withthe podcast, what's going on in my

(03:59):
world and give you a life update.
Does that sound good?
Because that's I thinkthat's all I got today.
So let's talk aboutsome life update stuff.
I have been exhausted.
I mentioned in my, I think it wasin the last solo episode I did, I

(04:20):
talked about burnout and the signs ofburnout, how to get through burnout.
And I am exhausted right now.
I have been so completely fatigued.
And, you know, if you've been listeningto me for the last little while, um, I've
been talking off and on about my healthissues and how my ulcerative colitis

(04:44):
came back after a beautiful remission.
She came back, guys, she came back,and just over two years ago now.
And so I've been working onthat and dealing with that.
And it has been a journey,and I am exhausted.

(05:05):
You know, I think back to other times inmy life where I talked about exhaustion,
or I said I was tired, and I don'tthink I knew what real exhaustion was.
Because I've been fatigued before,I've been anemic, I've, I've had low
energy, I've struggled with it before,but this is like next level exhaustion.

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And I mean, I am napping every afternoonand I am so grateful that I have created
a business and a lifestyle that allowsfor me to do that, but I am shutting down
every afternoon where I, I can't function.
I can't think straight anymore.
I can't keep my eyes open and Iam lying down and sleeping every

(05:47):
day, sometimes twice a day and I'mstill exhausted and I'm sleeping.
I am going to bed early and Iam sleeping through the night.
And I am still exhausted.
So here's where we arewith the health update.
And by the way, I mentioned, I thinkI mentioned it last fall that I have,

(06:10):
I was toying with and experimentingor playing with the idea of releasing
another podcast that will focussolely on health and holistic health
from my perspective and my journey.
And that is coming.
That is coming, hopefully soon.
Here's my plan.
Here's my plan with thatand with the podcast.

(06:33):
So right now I am hosting multiple, likethree, four, occasionally five guest
interviews a week to pre record all ofmy summer content so that by the end of
May, I will have all my guest interviews.
Pre recorded up until October 15th, Ithink is the last scheduled one, which

(06:59):
means that I'll still be recordingsolo episodes and releasing them.
There's a lot less production, pre,pre production, and post production
that goes into a solo episode.
You know, when I have a guest on,I do a lot of research on my guest.
There's coordinating with them, um,then the recording of the episode,
which is generally longer than my soloshows because, like, let's face it, you

(07:22):
don't want to listen to me ramble onfor an hour, but a good conversation
with a guest can definitely be.
And so the whole recordingtime is at least an hour.
And then there's a lot moreediting involved in those
episodes, because it's two voices.
And so there's a lot more editinginvolved and cleaning up and And then

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I promote those episodes a lot moreheavily on my social media because
I feel the guest deserves that.
I do share my solo shows on social media.
But I also just trust the podcastalgorithms a lot more on their
own with my solo shows, that I'mhappy with the number of downloads
I get and the listens that I get.

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So I'm, you know, I'm good with that.
But when there's a guest on, I really wantto honor their time and their expertise.
So I create a lot more content for them.
So what this means is that I can slowdown after May, after May, May 31st is
the last guest interview I have booked.

(08:28):
And then I'm just going to slow rightdown, slow down on this podcast.
And that's when I'm going intoproduction for the new show I am
going to launch, which spoileralert, is called What the Poop.
Yep, that's right.
I'm calling it what the poop becausewe're going to talk about poop.

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I have ulcerative colitis.
We can't talk about ulcerativecolitis without talking about poop.
We're not going to get like grossand graphic, but we're going to
talk about the embarrassing things.
We're going to talk about the things noone wants to talk about when it comes
to ulcerative colitis, the uncomfortablestuff, the funny stuff, the light stuff.
We're going to share, I'm going toshare stories of my own journey.

(09:14):
I'll bring on other people totalk about their journey and
not just ulcerative colitis.
That'll be a big focus of it, butalso exploring other invisible
illnesses and how they affect us,how we can thrive through illness.
And I'll be bringing on guest experts,gastroenterologists, nutritionists,

(09:35):
um, Um, medical doc, like everythingfrom medical doctors to alternative
practitioners, because I truly believethat holistic health is a holistic
approach, meaning that we use everythingavailable to us to treat our body
and our health mentally, spiritually,physically, and emotionally, that we
need healing on all four of those levels.

(09:56):
And all of those require differentapproaches and at different times in life.
So we're going to explore trulywhat it means to heal holistically.
So that's coming.
And for those of you who have messagedme and said that you were really
interested in that, um, I hope thatyou'll listen to it and I hope that you
enjoy it as much as you enjoy this show.

(10:19):
So that is in the pipeline, friends.
I already have the cover art.
I have the name registered.
It's all, it's all happening.
It's all happening.
Ah, but I just need time to recordand going back to the health stuff.
I have been so exhausted latelythat I can't wrap my head around

(10:41):
recording any more than I am.
And that's frustrating.
You know, that's one of thefrustrating things about having
an illness is I love this.
My favorite thing to do in mybusiness is to podcast and to talk
about podcasting and to coach otherson podcasting and public speaking.
In my brain, they're the same thing,public speaking and podcasting.

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They're all, it's all connected.
And that's my favorite thing to do is tospeak and to train and to lead others.
And I love recording this showand I love hosting guests and
having great guest conversations.
And I love all the productionwork that goes into it.
And it makes me so frustrated andso angry when I'm so exhausted
that I can't do anymore with it.

(11:27):
My plan was originally to launch whatthe poop in February of this year, but I
realized there's just, there's not enoughgas in the tank right now to do that.
So this was my plan is to givesuccess in mind all the time and
space right now, pre recording allthose guest interviews so that I have

(11:49):
them ready to go all summer long.
I can just plug them in, launch them.
promote them.
And, and then that time canbe allocated to what the poop.
So I'm excited about it.
I hope you are too.
I think, I think it's a show that'sneeded, especially for, if any of you

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have ulcerative colitis or Crohn's, Um,or you're struggling with any sort of
invisible illness to have a space wherewe can talk about it and we can talk about
it from all aspects, the personal side ofit, the painful side of it, the funny side
of it, because, I mean, how, we have tobe able to laugh at these things, right?

(12:34):
Like if we can laugh at the stuff we'regoing through, it makes it so much easier.
So it's going to be all of those things.
And I'm, I'm really looking forward to it.
And in the meantime, I havesome amazing guest interviews
lined up for you on this show.
I am so excited to release them.
That's one of the downsides topre recording so much of this
content is that there are.

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All of these guests that I knoware just sitting in the queue and
I cannot wait to release them.
I can't wait to get them outinto the world, into your ears so
that you can enjoy them as muchas I've enjoyed recording them.
Just incredible conversations,amazing conversations.
And it's funny cause I, I'll tellmy friend Jody about who I've just

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recorded and Jody's a fellow podcaster.
She actually took my training.
And we've become friends and we talk, youknow, at least, at least once a week, we
talk and connect and we help each otherout with content and, and marketing ideas.
And, uh, you know, I'll tellher I'll go, Oh, I just had
the greatest guest on my show.
And this is what we talked about.

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And she's like, Oh, great, Ineed to listen to that one.
When does it come out?
And I'll say, Oh, August 5th.
And she's like, Terry, you'vegot to stop doing this to me.
I get so excited about these guestsand then you tell me I have to
wait until August to hear them.
Anyway, so it got me thinking, whatif I did like a Patreon account
and you guys send me your feedback.

(14:02):
What do you think of this idea?
What if I did a Patreon where youpay a very small amount, like very,
I'm, I'm talking like five bucks amonth, like, like a cup of coffee.
not even a cup of coffee.
If you're getting a Starbucks coffee,I think it's more like seven bucks now.
But so you pay like 5 a month and you getthem all, all the raw episodes, no ads.

(14:27):
I mean, my ads are just metalking about my programs.
Um, but there'll be no ads.
It'd be very, very bare bones.
Here's an intro.
Here's the, here's the guestinterview, nothing else.
No bells and whistles.
What would you think of that?
Um, and then you'd get them early.
You get all the episodesearly before everyone else.

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So that if you're say on my Instagramand I always post the guests that
I've interviewed that day, and I'llbe like, Oh, I talked to, for example,
I talked to Shannon Boyer today.
We talked all about creatingimpactful course content.
And then you see that and you know thatyou're going to get it later that day,
or maybe the next morning you're going tohave it, would that be worth it for you?

(15:12):
Let me know.
Send me a message.
The best way to message me is onInstagram at the Terry Holland.
I'll link it in the show notes.
Would you be into that?
Would that be something that you'd like?
Because I'm willing to do that.
I think that'd be kind of fun.
So I don't know.
That's just an idea in my head.

(15:32):
As we move forward with this podcastand really actually, as I think
of it, and there's just, this justoccurred to me right now, I would
love all the feedback on the show.
So, cause I've changed things up doingtwo episodes a week right now, one
solo show, one guest show last week,there was no solo show because like we

(15:52):
already discussed, I was procrastinating.
Uh, but what do you think?
Are you enjoying thescheduling of the two episodes?
Are you enjoying theguests that I have on?
Are there other types ofguests you want me to have on?
Are you bored with my solo shows?
You might be bored with this onebecause I feel like we're just,

(16:13):
we're just chatting here and I'mjust talking at you for a while.
Um, you know, this is how I used to do myshow all the time and near the beginning
was it was just sort of my thoughts andwhat I was going through, what I was
experiencing, uh, my views of the world.
And I kind of like these recordingstoo, I'm going to be honest with you.

(16:35):
So let me know what kind of style do youlike, or do you like a mix of all of it?
I know last time I asked for somefeedback, it was about the health stuff.
If you liked hearing those episodes whenI give a health update, and if you wanted
a separate podcast for that, or if youjust want it interwoven in this one.
And the feedback I got wasastoundingly in support of both.

(16:58):
Like everyone who reached out said, Iappreciate hearing those updates on how
you're doing and I love those episodes.
And I'll listen to them if they're apart of Success In Mind, and I'll listen
to them if they're a separate podcast.
You just tell me where they'regoing to be and I'll listen.
And so, and that was across the board.

(17:18):
Everyone who reachedout said the same thing.
I support you doing a separate show.
I support you doing on this show.
I just, I just want to hear it.
So let, just let me know.
Reach out on the Instagrams and let meknow just, yeah, what you enjoy about
the show or what you're not loving.
And I'm open to hearing yourfeedback, but please be kind about it.

(17:39):
That's all I ask.
Like, don't be mean.
Don't be rude.
I'm a big girl.
I can take the negative feedback, butjust put it into kind words, is all I ask.
Like, like, don't rip me apart.
Because no one likes that.
Anyway, that's what'sgoing on with the podcast.
Back to the Back againto the health stuff.
So I've been really exhausted.

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And I talked to my gastroenterologistabout this, uh, probably
about a month or so ago now.
And I said just, I'mfeeling incredibly drained.
I'm having a lot of jointpain, like a lot of joint pain.
And to the point where it's,it's getting unbearable.
But the actual colitissymptoms have been great.

(18:22):
Fine.
Fine on these, this new biologicI've been on, I say new, but I've
been taking it since July and, andI've been fine, but fine on it.
So I said I, I don't know if that'sthe colitis, if that's the, the
medication or if that's something else.
He said, well, we don't know.

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It could be the ulcerativecolitis is just.
In his words, he said, pooping you out.
And I said, well, like literally, and wehad a good laugh about that, but he said,
it could just be the disease could bethe ulcerative colitis pooping you out.
He said, it could be youriron could be low again.
So we'll check that.
He said, but the joint pain isalso concerning that it's so bad.
He said, it could be causedby the ulcerative colitis.

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It's systemic inflammation.
So it causes pain inother parts of the body.
So he said, it could be that.
It could be somethingcompletely unrelated.
It could be something structural.
Cause most of the pain is in mysacroiliac area, lower, lower back.
And he said, it could besomething structural, an injury.

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Something could be wrong with it.
So we need to investigate that.
He said it could be rheumatoid arthritis.
And I may have mentioned thisin previous episodes, but.
When you have one autoimmunecondition, it's very likely you
develop other autoimmune conditions.
So he said it could berheumatoid arthritis.

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And he said it could be, and Idon't know if I'm saying this right.
I probably am not.
I should have looked it up before Istarted recording, but I didn't really
know what I was going to talk about.
It could be something calledAnkylosing spondylosis or
spondylitis, something like that.
If you know how to say it, feel free toreach out to me and tell me how to say it.

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Cause I, I don't know.
I've looked at the word.
I don't know how to say theword or the words, two words.
It could be that.
So he sent me for more tests, a wholebunch of blood work, which showed that
my inflammation is once again, high.
Uh, which isn't a good thing.
It was down in October,it was in normal range.

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Now my, the inflammation in my blood,so the blood test, the CRP test, is now
high again, which isn't a good thing.
So that's high.
My hemoglobin's good.
So it shouldn't be anemiacausing the fatigue.
Hemoglobin's right,right where it should be.

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It's perfect.
So, um, and he sent me for aback x ray, which I'm waiting
to hear on, and a referral to arheumatologist, which is for June.
So that's, that's where I am.
I'm very tired.
I deal with a lot of pain.
I have found a way tomanage the pain though.

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I have been using CBD.
And it's great.
I have, I've heard, I've heard abouthow CBD oil can be really helpful
for inflammation and pain, but I'veavoided it because of my own bias.
I'm not, you know, I'mnot a cannabis user.

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I don't smoke weed.
I, I did a little bit when I wasin my theater days, uh, my early
twenties, very recreationally, likeclosing night of a show kind of thing.
Theater, you know, but, butI don't do, I don't do that.
And it's not part of my lifestyle.

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I don't even drink alcohol anymore.
That's not part of my lifestyle either.
I don't even drink coffee anymore.
You guys like I am, I have given up a lot.
I've given up a lot.
No coffee, no alcohol.
Uh, you know, I, I don't smoke weed.
I, I don't do any other drugs.

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I gave up Diet Coke too,because same reasons, um, it was
irritating the ulcerative colitis.
Plus, I just don't think it'sa good thing for the body in
general, so I gave that up.
So my life is pretty simple.
Like the, the strongestthing I consume is black tea.

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And then I drink a lot of water.
And when I want to get fancy with mywater, I put in, like, some hydrating,
this hydrating drink stuff for hydration.
Electrolytes.
I put that in my water.
Like, Ooh, ooh, getting,getting super fancy.
Sometimes when I'm working out, I'llput in some BCAAs and every once in

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a while, when I want to get reallycrazy, I'll take a, a mild pre
workout drink before working out.
And that's like, that's asfancy as it's getting here.
That's, that is it.
I know, it's a party around here, so,but, uh, so I kept hearing about how
helpful CBD oil is, and I feel like Iam so late to the party on this, uh, but

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I got to the point where the pain wasso bad, I couldn't handle it anymore.
It was affecting my work becauseI couldn't sit for very long.
I would need to just go lie down.
It was affecting my ability towork out because I was in so
much pain I couldn't exercise.
And I really need to be exercising.

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And I couldn't do that.
When it's really bad, Ican barely walk my dogs.
It is excruciatingly bad.
So I got to the point where I justsaid one day to my husband, I said,
I, I think I need some CBD becausealso with ulcerative colitis, I
can't take Advil or ibuprofen.

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I can't take Aleve.
I can take Tylenol, but Tylenol doesnothing, does nothing for the pain.
So, and plus I don't, I don'twant to take, you know, you hear
a lot about Tylenol and how hardit is on the liver, and I don't
want to do that to my poor liver.
So, um, I thought, well,maybe I'll try CBD.

(24:25):
Oh my God, you guys, whata difference it made.
And this isn't an ad for CBD.
I'm not sponsored.
I'm not telling you to take it.
Don't do anything without talking toyour doctor, et cetera, et cetera.
Talk to the pharmacist, blah, blah, blah.
Um, but Oh my God.
If I knew the difference it wouldmake and how much better I'd feel, I

(24:45):
would have taken it a long time ago.
But I really didn't knowif it was that effective.
Like, I thought, is it really that good?
I don't know.
Who knows?
So anyway, I got some CBD gummies.
They are delicious.
It's like a little treatand holy, what a change.
And at first I thought, cause itwas sort of gradually got better
over a few days and I thought, well,maybe the pain just got better.

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It comes and it goes.
So then I stopped using the CBD.
And it came back again withintwo days, like excruciating pain.
Back to like a level12 out of 10, bad pain.
So I went back on the CBD and aslong as I take the CBD, my pain is
like a one or a two at the most.
Like it is mild, it is manageable, um,and if I'm having a particularly bad day,

(25:34):
I might take an extra one during the day,otherwise I save them for at night when
I'm ready to relax and can go to sleep.
It's time to unwindand go to sleep anyway.
So that's what I've been doingand that's been really making
a huge difference for me.
And that's where we're at.
So I'm waiting to hear about the, thetest that we just did and the back x

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ray and meeting with a rheumatologistand in the meantime, doing what
I can to take care of my body.
I mean, the great thing is that.
Um, because the actual likeacute ulcerative colitis symptoms
are totally under control.
I've been able to increase the fiberin my diet, eating more fruits and
vegetables again, which is wonderful.

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And I love it.
And I'm working out again, whichis amazing and feels so good to do.
Um, so on that front, everythingis, is going really well is just
figuring out why I'm so exhaustedand what's actually causing.
The extreme joint pain, whichis focused on the lower back,

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but it also radiates out.
So it does affect my knees, sometimes myshoulders, um, sometimes even my hands.
So that's, that's where things are.
That's the health update.
So we talked about the podcast,we talked about the health stuff.
I don't know.
What else, what else shouldwe talk about business?
Let's talk about business.
I have gone all in, and you might'venoticed this if you're on my social

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media and you If you've been listeningto the show for the last little while,
I've been talking about it on the show.
I've gone all in oncoaching people on podcasts.
And I'm thinking about, uh,well, and also public speaking.
I haven't been promoting that partof it, but I'm going all in on it.
It's what I love.
It's what fires me up so much is to helppeople to share their stories, to share

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their message and to do it with confidenceand charisma and to feel great about it.
I fully believe everyone has a storyto share, everyone has a message
to share, and everyone deservesa safe platform to share it on.
And in my experience, podcastinghas been the safest platform because
people aren't going to, and this iswhat I tell my students, people aren't

(27:44):
going to invest time into listeningto your podcast if they don't want to
hear about what you're talking about.
You're a podcast listener.
Do you give time to podcasts on topicsyou don't care about or that you're really
not interested in hearing about pod orepisodes or shows that you don't like?
People you don't like?

(28:05):
No, it's a time investment.
Who has time for that?
Like, you're going to listen toa show just to ridicule the host?
No!
Unless you're like a celebrity figurewho's in the media for something stupid,
then people might listen to theirpodcast to leave them a bad review.
But in my experience, and maybe becauseI'm not famous, yet, no, just joking,

(28:27):
I'm not famous, uh, maybe my experiencehas been a better one because of
that, but I have always found thatpodcast audiences are the most loyal,
the most caring and the most kind.
So it's a, to me, it's a safeplatform to share a message.

(28:49):
Plus you can talk about things thatmaybe you can't talk about on social
media because of the filters and stuff.
And I, I am for thefiltering on social media.
I am because, um, people post andshare some really awful things.
It needs to be.
censored to a point to protect peoplefrom seeing and hearing about things.

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And I don't know, youmight disagree with that.
I used to be completely anticensorship on all levels.
And I, I am against censorship whenit comes to speaking out against the
government, like we need to have, weneed to have the freedom to do that.
Um, but when it comes to sharing certain,certain things, you know, you can imagine
what some things just don't belong.

(29:35):
On the internet and don'tbelong in our social feeds
and we don't want to see them.
So, uh, but podcastingis a lot more broad.
You can talk about things thatdon't get filtered or don't
trigger the algorithms in that way.
You can talk a little morecandidly and you're more in control
of your content in a podcast.
So to me, it's a very safe platform.

(29:59):
It's been huge and growing my business.
I've had clients come from allaround the world because of
podcasting, which is really exciting.
And it's not somethingI expected to happen.
And I've connected with the mostincredible people through podcasting
the guests I've had on the show.
And when I have a guest on myshow, I follow them on social
media and I get to know them.

(30:20):
And I feel like so many ofthem are becoming a part
of my network and my world.
Just because we have that connection.
We had an amazing conversation andwe're connecting and I love supporting
them and feeling supported by them.
It's, it's really, it's really cool.
So that's the business update.
That's what I'm focused in on.
I'm not saying that I'll never teachan NLP training again because I do

(30:44):
love NLP, but I feel like where mysweet spot is And my purpose is to help
people share their message confidently.
So that's what I'm focused on right now.
I don't know.
Will I teach another NLP training?
Yeah, very, very likely possiblymaybe in a different format.

(31:05):
I might do like an NLPlight, like NLP for leaders.
You know, you're not going tobe certified to coach, but.
You're going to learn the toolsthat will help you be a better
leader and a better communicator.
Like I might do that.
I might do some of that.
So that's where we are.
I'm all in on podcasting.
There's a new podcast that you can lookforward to coming out over the summer

(31:27):
that'll be focused more on healthand living with invisible illness,
thriving with invisible illness.
And, uh, And I'm still loving thisshow and have incredible guests
coming for you and that's, thoseare all, those are all the things,
all the things, all the things.
Oh, and the other thing I was goingto talk about that I'll share with

(31:49):
you is we went back to Calgary.
This is just like a personal,just a personal note.
We went to Calgary, uh, Iguess almost two weeks ago now.
Yeah, two, we left two weeks ago.
Yesterday.
Or tomorrow.
Tomorrow will be two weeks ago.
We left.
We had a road trip from, I livejust outside of Vancouver and we
drove to Calgary to visit my sisterand my brother in law to celebrate

(32:13):
my brother in law's 50th birthday.
And it was so nice to get away.
There's something about a longcar ride, isn't, isn't there?
I love road trips.
Like, I love them so much.
I crave them.
Admittedly, I don't drive.
I hate driving.

(32:34):
I've never had my driver's license.
I learned how to drive and thendiscovered like, I really hate it.
I hate it more than Ithought I would hate it.
Um, so I don't do it.
My husband would love if I did,but I think after almost 20 years
together, he's given up on that.
So anyway, I don't drive.
My husband does the driving.

(32:55):
I am a passenger princessand I fully own that.
And I just, I love being on the road.
Daydreaming out the window, readingbooks, listening to podcasts, listening
to audiobooks, having conversationswith my husband, and I just, I love it.
So we stopped in Revelstoke, bothways, the way there and the way back.

(33:17):
I really like Revelstoke.
I don't know if any of youlistening are from Revelstoke,
but I think it's such a cool town.
I would live there.
That's a town I couldreally see myself living in.
It's so beautiful.
And it has a great downtown core.
I love the downtown.
I love towns where you can like,you can walk the whole downtown.

(33:38):
You can have this whole This whole GilmoreGirls fantasy in my head of living in a
smaller town where you can walk from yourhouse to the downtown and you can get a
coffee or your breakfast, you can walk tothe bookstore, you can walk the whole town
and it's all very close and quaint andintimate and everyone knows each other.
I love, I love that idea so much.

(33:59):
I think that'd be wonderful.
I think it'd be a great lifestyle.
So anyways, we stayed in Rubble Stokeon the way there and the way back.
And here's a funny littlestory to leave you with.
So on the way back.
We stayed in Revelstoke again.
And my brother in law had told usabout a pub called the Village Idiot.
He's like, you've got to eat there.
When you stop in Revelstoke,you have to go for dinner there.

(34:21):
They have the best poutine ever.
And so that's where we wentfor dinner on the way home.
We stopped and we wentto the Village Idiot.
Great name for a pub, by theway, and such a cool pub.
It was so cool.
So we go in there and it is packed.
I think we got the last table.
And we were at like a communitytable, you know, like a long table

(34:44):
that they sit multiple groups at.
So we're at that table.
And behind me was a group of guys,I think maybe like six or eight
guys sitting at a table behind me.
And I heard the best Canadian debate ever.
And from now on, this will beknown as the Great Canadian Debate.
So one of the guys

(35:07):
And then once I heard this, my earswere perked up and I was invested.
He said, he said, if someone offersyou a bite of their poutine, do
you just take a bite of potato?
And I assume he meant with gravy because,so do you just take a bite of potato
or do you take a bite with cheese curd?

(35:29):
So now, of course, my earswere really perked up.
And before I go even further, let meexplain what poutine is for my non
Canadian friends who may not know.
Poutine are French fries with gravy,gravy all over the fries, and melted

(35:50):
cheese curds on top, and it is delicious.
It is a Canadian delicacy.
If you are American and you try totell me that you eat cheese fries
with gravy, that is not the same.
That is not the same.
No matter what people tell you,that is not the same thing.
It's gotta be Frenchfries, gravy, cheese curds.

(36:14):
Delicious.
Okay, so now that wehave that out of the way.
So, the question, do youtake a bite of just potato?
Which I assume he also meant with gravy.
Or do you take a cheese curd?
Now immediately my mind is saying,just a bite with potato, because

(36:34):
that would be the polite thing to do.
Now his friend says, I would take a curd.
Now, the guy who started theconversation, he said, what, you would
take another person's cheese curd?
And he said, yes I would.
And he, he, he gets more upset now,and he says, well, How could you?
How could you take anotherperson's cheese curd?

(36:56):
That's so rude.
You don't take anotherperson's cheese curd.
You take potato only.
That is a polite thing to do.
That is poutine etiquette.
Now, now he starts pulling the restof the table and asking the rest
of their friends, What do you do?
And they all kept saying,I would take a curd.
I would take a cheese curd.

(37:16):
I would definitely take a cheese curd.
And he's getting more and more worked up.
He's like, you can't takesomeone else's cheese curd.
That's so rude.
It's the wrong thing to do.
The polite thing is youjust take potato and gravy.
And I was with him up until this point.
I was like, yes, you are correct, sir.
And then, and then one of the otherguys offered a counter point of view.

(37:42):
He said, if someone offers you abite of their poutine and you take
a bite of potato only, can youeven say you had a bite of poutine?
Because poutine is potato,gravy, cheese, curd.
If there is no cheese,curd, it is not poutine.
You have just taken a bite of potato.

(38:03):
He had me there.
He had me.
I completely, in an instant,I flipped my position.
Because he was right.
If you just take a bite ofpotato, you are just eating a fry.
You are not eating poutine.
And they offered a bite ofpoutine, which implies a curd.
And this?
I will always refer to nowas the Great Canadian Debate.

(38:24):
So I took this to my socialmedia and I shared the story.
And I said, what would you do?
And most people said theywould take a cheese curd.
Some people got more nuanced with us.
And this got really fascinating.
Some people said, well, it dependson how much they have left.
If it's a fresh plate of poutine, Iwould definitely take a cheese curd.
But if they're down to their lastfew bites, and there's not many

(38:46):
curds left, I would leave the curd.
Some people said it depends on howmany curds there are to begin with.
If there are a lot of cheesecurds, then it's fair game.
But if there are few cheese curds.
Then no, I would not take a cheese curd.
Oh, so much nuance to consider here.
A friend of mine who's been on the show,Heather Grace Stewart, the author, she

(39:10):
piped in and said, well, clearly thisis not Montreal poutine because Montreal
poutine is covered in cheese curds.
It would not be possible totake a bite without cheese curd.
And then she sent me a pictureof the Montreal poutine and I
was like, Ooh, that looks like Ineed to take a trip to Montreal.
And I sent her a picture back of thepoutine we had from the village idiot.

(39:34):
And, uh, She said, well, that looksdelicious, too, but very different in the
presentation in how many curds there were.
So now her and I got into adiscussion of, I wonder how poutine
varies province to province.
And it would be interesting to takea trip across Canada to try out the

(39:55):
best poutine in every province and seehow it varies province to province.
And I think that is wortha trip across Canada.
What do you think?
I think I would love that trip.
And if it's obviously itwould have to be a road trip.
So now I'm Pairing my love of road trips,which again, for my non Canadian friends,

(40:16):
if you don't realize how big Canada is,like that would be, I know people who
have driven across Canada before andflown back and just the drive across
Canada, coast to coast was two months.
So I mean, that is a road trip.
That includes stops.
So that, that would include stops,but then like stops for like a
night or two in different places.

(40:38):
Um, but that.
That is, to me, that'san ultimate road trip.
And I would love to do that.
I would love to see thecountry from coast to coast.
I have, I obviously live onthe West coast of Vancouver.
I have traveled to the East coast.
We did a trip to Newfoundland, NovaScotia, which was so beautiful.
I would love to live out there, but itwould just be so far from our families

(41:00):
and we like being close to our families.
So beautiful.
So stunning.
I loved it out there.
I have been through the prairies.
I have been.
Here are the provinces I've been in.
Obviously BC.
I live here.
I grew up in Alberta.
I visit Alberta regularly.
I have been in Saskatchewan severaltimes for visits, family trips,

(41:24):
different reasons, speaking engagements.
I haven't been in Manitoba.
I have been to Ontario.
I did a speaking engagement in Ottawa.
I spoke at a conference thereand I have visited Toronto.
But I haven't been to Quebec.
Well, other than like just crossingover gat No, like from Ottawa to gat.
No.
And crossing just barely into Quebec.

(41:46):
Uh, but otherwise I have, I havenot really visited Quebec and yeah.
And then I've been to Newfoundland,Nova Scotia, so, but I would
like to do it continuously, onedrive across, straight across.
I think that would be a beautiful drive.
And I think the.
The icing on the cake, or the cheesecurd on the poutine, as this conversation
is going, would be to sample the bestpoutines in every province, like to find

(42:13):
out, to research in advance, where'sthe best poutine, and then go there
and compare province to province ofhow it varies in different provinces.
And I think that would be really fun.
Anyway, that is the Great Canadian Debate.
And that was such a fun trip that we took.

(42:34):
And to circle back to where westarted this conversation with all
the health stuff, I really hopedI'd come back feeling rested and
recharged and, um, still exhausted.
So it wasn't a break that I needed,because the break did not help.
Anyway, anyhow, uh, that is it for today.
I think I have talkedyour ear off long enough.

(42:56):
If you're still withme, I congratulate you.
I want to thank you forlistening to this episode.
Bye bye.
300.
I've actually Okay, one more littleconfessional, and then I will close out.
But I have to confess, because I'vebeen pre recording so much content, I've
already recorded well over 300 episodes.

(43:19):
Plus, I have deleted some in thepast, and I don't know if you
guys know that, but I have deletedreleased episodes for a few reasons.
Um, one or two of them because theywere very time specific, and They no
longer made sense once that time hadpassed, so I went back and deleted
them and thought, well, they're notrelevant and they don't make sense.

(43:43):
So a few I deleted because theywere, I was talking about current
events at the time, and thenthey were no longer relevant.
Um, and then I deleted acouple guest interviews.
Yeah.
Yep, I did.
I deleted a couple guest interviewsbecause, and I won't say who, but I

(44:04):
will say I've deleted some because, um,integrity, integrity issues with these
people, where I no longer felt alignedwith them, and therefore didn't want to
represent them on my podcast any longer.
Because to me, that'sfalse representation.
If you listen to a guest on my show,And that's my, that's my endorsement.

(44:27):
So if you listen to someone on myshow, and then you go buy their product
or their service, you go work withthat person because you heard them
here, I couldn't in good faith havethose episodes still be on my show.
I couldn't endorse their work anymoreafter learning things about them, after

(44:47):
experiencing certain things with them,I just couldn't endorse them anymore.
So, I mean, granted, is this episode 300?
Well, it is right now.
It is, but I also don't want tomislead you into thinking that
this is a 300th episode I recordedbecause that's not the case.
It is the 300th episode publishedas of right now, but still kind

(45:11):
of cool considering that mostpodcasts fade before episode 20.
Most podcasters will dropoff before their 20th show.
It's a, it's something calledpod fade in the podcasting world.
And so to hit episode 300, I amecstatic, but I need to be honest and
let you know that A whole bunch more.

(45:33):
It's in the storage bank waitingto be released and that I've
deleted a few in the past.
So I'm really beyond episode300 in terms of recordings,
but 300 currently published.
Anyway, thank you for being here.
Thank you for listening to me,even though I feel like I've
just been rambling for an hour.
But, um, just thank you.
Thank you for being here.

(45:54):
Next month, the podcast turnsnine and we will do a special
episode for our ninth year show.
So, I mean, there'll be lots ofepisodes in between now and then, but.
That'll be a special one for sure.
As always, follow me on Instagram,leave a 5 star review, share it
with a friend if you feel like it.
Um, and if you follow me onInstagram, let me know, let me

(46:15):
know your thoughts, what you thinkabout the things we talked about.
All right, I'm going to endhere because otherwise I will
keep rambling for another hour.
So thank you so much.
Have a great day.
Bye for now.
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