How to Fix a Dead Bedroom with Smart Sex Toys | Luxus by Kiiroo - Talk Sex with Annette

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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
I'm Annette Benedetti, host of the podcast
formerly known as Locker RoomTalk and Shots.
The show has a new name, TalkSex with Annette.
But at its core, this is stillyour locker room.
It's where we strip away shame,get curious, and speak the
unspoken about sex, kink,dating, pleasure, and desire.
Around here, nothing's offlimits.

(00:24):
These are the kinds ofconversations we save for our
boldest group chats, our mosttrusted friends, and of course,
the women's locker room.
Think raw, honest, and sometimesunapologetically raunchy.
If you've been here from thebeginning, thank you.
And if you're new, welcome to mypodcast where desire meets
disruption and pleasure becomespower.

(00:46):
Now, let's talk about sex.
Cheers.
Right low.
Today's Talk Sex with Annettetopic is how smart sex toys are
rewiring your pleasure andsaving relationships.
What if your vibrator could helpyou save your relationship?

(01:07):
What if the key to fixing deadbedroom syndrome, long-distance
disconnect, or even rebuildingafter infidelity wasn't just
therapy, but also technology.
Today on Talk Sex within Net,we're getting into the real
reason smart sex toys are takingoff.
And it's not just about noveltyor better orgasms, although I

(01:29):
love those.
It's about how they are helpingreal people reconnect, heal, and
rewrite the story of whatintimacy looks like in a digital
world.
My guest is Toon Timmerman, CEOand founder of Kiro and Phil
Robotics, pioneers in the worldof interactive intimacy.
Toon didn't start an interactiveintimacy.

(01:52):
He, in fact, was chasing asoccer career and building
sports-based tech companiesbefore founding one of the
fastest growing intimacy techplatforms in the world.
He's a TEDx speaker,award-winning entrepreneur, and
someone who's been answering thesame question I'm asking today.
Can a smart sex toy do more thanjust get you off?

(02:14):
Can it save your relationship?
And we are going to find out,but first, I want to remind you,
I'm over on OnlyFans where I'msharing my sex and intimacy
how-tos, audio guidedself-pleasure, meditations, and
so much more.
All in an effort to help youstart having better sex and more
pleasure tonight.
You can also find me on Substackdoing the same.
And you can find me in bothplaces under my handle at

(02:36):
TalkSex with Annette.
You can also scroll down to thenotes in this episode, and
you're going to find links toeverywhere you could possibly
want to find me below.
But for now, Toon, can you tellmy listeners just a little bit
more about you?

SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
Thanks for the introduction, Annette.
Yeah, so I'm Tone.
I'm from Amsterdam.
And like you said, I didn'tforesee myself as a sex tech
entrepreneur.
I tried to become a soccerplayer, and when I wasn't good
enough, I thought, okay, I wantto be the next Jared McGuire.

(03:10):
Right?
But anyway, so then I thought,okay, working for a boss was not
really for me.
So I just started being anentrepreneur.
I did all kinds of things, andin the end, like everybody we
all end up at in the sexindustry.

SPEAKER_00 (03:24):
It's such a great place to be.
I think that the wonderful thingabout this particular interview
and what you're doing is it'sgoing to be, it's going to apply
to everyone.
Look, sex is part of everybody,for the most part, hopefully,
everybody's life, whether it'show you came into the world or
how you are having a fulfillingconnection with somebody you

(03:45):
love, right?
It's key to your happiness andyour whole health.
I've talked about that over andover again on this podcast.
And many of us are struggling inrelationships.
Obviously, I'm coaching a lot ofpeople, a lot of couples who are
struggling in theirrelationships.
And today, for those of you whoare either in a relationship or

(04:07):
trying to start off a healthyrelationship, you're going to
learn about just another toolthat can either help you get
your sexual and intimaterelationship back on track, or
will help you launch into yournext relationship with a tool or
tools, because I like to havemany tools to keep it on track

(04:27):
so you can have fulfillingintimacy, sex, and pleasure with
your partner throughout yourlifetime.
And so we are going to betalking about that.
I want you to stay to the endbecause, of course, as always,
I'm going to give you sometakeaways.
Meaning, if you are strugglingin your relationship right now
or you're wanting to start arelationship on the right foot

(04:47):
with the right tools, you'regoing to have some ideas for how
you can start doing thattonight.
So I am ready.
I'm ready to hear about thetechnology and how it can help
save some relationships thatmight need a little saving in
the bedroom.
So thank you for joining me andlet's talk about sex tech and
saving relationships.

(05:08):
Cheers.

SPEAKER_01 (05:09):
Cheers.

SPEAKER_00 (05:11):
My listeners hear me talk about sex toys all the time
because I like them.
I use them a lot on myself allthe time.
But what differentiates a smartsex tech toy from your just
average vibrator?

SPEAKER_01 (05:26):
I think what what it differentiates is that it uh
it's it's interactive.
So it can be interactive that,for example, a toy reacts to
another toy, or that in matterof the new device we recently
launched, the two parts react toeach other.
So initially, we tried to bringthe world closer together.

(05:49):
We see that people are livingapart, it's hard to connect.
A lot of couples have issues incommunication.
I think sex is extremelyimportant to communicate.
Obviously, while living apart,and we try to create technology
which brings people closertogether.
That said, obviously, there'salso their communication
boundaries also in the bedroom.

(06:11):
So, not per se over distance,but also in the bedroom itself.
And therefore, we try to createtechnology again and to use our
existing technology to also helpthem to communicate better in
the bedroom.
And therefore, we have looked attoys and technologies which are
already there and extremelypopular, like the C-shape

(06:31):
devices for couples.
And what we saw is that thereare a few issues which we
believed we could resolve withour technology.

SPEAKER_00 (06:44):
What were the issues that you felt you could resolve?
And how does the smart sex techhelp with communication in the
bedroom?

SPEAKER_01 (06:56):
So the two main issues we figured was that the
purpose of the C-shape is toclose the orgasm gap, but
stimulating the guy at the sametime normally doesn't really
help to close an orgasm gap.
So that was obviously a bigissue, in our opinion.
Plus, for a lot of what womenit's also a lot to take in the

(07:18):
toy and the guy at the sametime.
So we thought if we can resolvethat, if we can make it that you
don't need to take a toy and aguy in for the woman, and that
you don't stimulate the guy butliterally bring people closer
together by creating a toy whichdoes that, helps, in our

(07:42):
opinion, closing the orgasmicgap much more than a C-shape.

SPEAKER_00 (07:47):
So can you explain the C-shape toy?
I don't know if you have avisual here of a C-shaped toy.

SPEAKER_01 (07:53):
A C-shaped toy that combines internal and external
stimulation.
So there's the vibration for theclitoris and the vibration for
the G-spot.
So the part of the G-spot,obviously the guy, goes with it.
So that vibrator stimulates theguy as well.
And that's what we wanted toresolve.

(08:13):
Like if we can create a devicewhat doesn't have this part,
just a very tiny glit stim.
Because we also didn't want itto be disrupt, let's say, the
moment, or that it's in the way,it should hardly be there.
So we we created extremely tinyglit stim, which you can use in

(08:37):
several ways.
There's an adhesive sticker,there's a harness, or there's a
handheld.
So they're all kind of differentways, whatever you prefer.
And then at the same time,there's a very tiny ring for the
guy.
And the toy has a proximitysensor, which is technology
which also been used in cars, itrecognizes distance.

(09:02):
So what we did is we we usedthat to let the toys talk to
each other.
So the moment when you getcloser, or when the first thing
when the speed goes up, with allthese movements, you can
obviously let the female deviceinteract on that.

(09:23):
And what we did is we created anapplication where you can create
your personal settings, so youcan completely customize it to
your personal preferences.
For example, if you prefer thatthe vibration increases up to
40% of the max when thethrusting goes faster, or if you

(09:47):
want to increase the intensitywhen the thrusting just goes
deeper, so you can completelypersonalize it and save it on
the device.
So it's been saved on thefirmware.
So you do don't need to do itconstantly every time you're
using it.
You personalize the device,which is also quite unique.
I don't think you even know atoy where you can completely

(10:09):
personalize the the firmware andthe behavior of the toy and then
save it.
So you don't need to do thatover and over again.
The interesting part is that theguy feels quite because by the
movement, he sees instantly,obviously, very reaction from
his partner.

SPEAKER_00 (10:27):
He sees her half pleasure.
He sees her half pleasure.
It sounds like before the toys,and I have tried several toys
where it's C-shape, meaningthere is that for my listeners,
there's the arm that goes insideof the vaginal opening and the
outside arm, which rests on theclit and vibrates there.

(10:47):
And then, of course, you can usethem while your partner enters
you, but it's also going to giveyour partner stimulation.
Now, this new toy that Kiro putout actually has a male part and
a female part that speak to eachother, meaning that whether it's
speed or depth or proximity,there are there are several

(11:10):
different settings.
One will set the other one off,meaning the ring is going to
make the glit vibe start tovibe.
I like that you bring in,though, that the sex tech allows
the guy to see when the woman isbecoming aroused, like what
movement he's doing that'sturning her on.

(11:34):
Because I do think in thebedroom, communication is a huge
problem.
When it comes to coaching, thebiggest problem that all of my
clients have is communication.
And I have been shockedsometimes at how partners who
have been together for decadeshave not talked about sex in the
bedroom.
They don't talk about it at all.

(11:55):
I'm like, oh weird, right?

SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
It's super weird.

SPEAKER_00 (11:58):
It's it, but it's not weird.
It's calm.
That's a thing, is for you andI, it's a little bit strange,
but it's so common how manypeople don't talk to the people
they're having sex with aboutsex.
So this is a great way to startconversation through our bodies
and reaction.

(12:18):
And now at least he can see whathe's doing that's working.
So he can keep doing that more,right?
Because you're gonna notice whenshe, you know, that that vibe
hits and she perks right up.
I know that when I'm with apartner who's a either a man or
has a penis, and the minute Iput a little something on my

(12:41):
clit, when they're inside me,like I instantly like sounds
like the way I move changes, andthey're like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
she's in a good spot, right?
Yeah.
But I also verbalize it and saylots of stuff.
So, in a way, do you do you seethis technology as helping
couples communicate better?

(13:01):
Like, can this branch from thephysical into the verbal to help
create that and more of thatintimate connection that is
needed?

SPEAKER_01 (13:12):
Yeah, what we did is we wanted to back up our
findings, obviously.
So we together with LaShore, theCanadian Research Institute, we
uh we did a big research.
So we have sent the devicebefore we launched to 100
couples, and they tried and theydid a very in-depth long survey,
and the results were phenomenal.

(13:33):
So it's like 90% of the of thecouples really liked it, and it
helped them actually also tocommunicate in the bedroom.
And that's I think what isalready a big step.
If besides that the deviceshould be pleasurable,
obviously, and fun as well atthe same time, it also can be

(13:53):
obviously fun, it also helpedthe communication.

SPEAKER_00 (13:57):
But did couples share why it helped with the
communication the yes, they did.

SPEAKER_01 (14:04):
They were quite open about it.
And also, we took also theirfindings, obviously, and advice
how to improve it again.
And it's uh the first version,obviously, and so there's
already like ideas how to makeit better, which we will.

SPEAKER_00 (14:19):
And the name of this device that you created?

SPEAKER_01 (14:22):
So it's called the Luxus.

SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
The Luxus, yes.
I have a Luxus that I am in theprocess of reviewing for you.
So that review is going to besoon at probably around the same
time this is.

SPEAKER_01 (14:37):
That's exciting.
Yeah, so we have the lux herpart and the luxe him part and
luxe us.

SPEAKER_00 (14:43):
This is one smart sex tech device, but you have
created many.
This seems to be a device that'shelping with communication in
the bedroom.
Now, it's from my experiencewith it and from talking to you
and your findings.
Obviously, what shuts downcommunication in the bedroom is

(15:06):
when people are disappointedbecause nobody as a woman wants
to turn to your partner and say,Wow, I didn't enjoy that.
I didn't get an orgasm.
It's very difficult.
A lot of women fake orgasms.
I have been known to fake a lotin the past, but oftentimes we

(15:28):
just stop kind of talking aboutit because it's easy to get
defensive if you're the personreceiving the negative feedback.
But when the feedback ispositive, meaning you've got
this sex tech toy that'shelping, then it's going to be a
lot easier to say that feltreally good.
I loved it when you were goingthat speed or whatever.
And I could see how that wouldhelp open up communication, move

(15:53):
it from the I didn't come tothat felt good.

SPEAKER_01 (15:58):
I hope I I hope people will say that felt good.

SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
That felt good.
Well, yes, definitely.
Add that little clip vibe on,and you've made several
different ways that it can be onthe body so the woman can choose
like how to have the vibrationon her because it's always very
personal, right?
Yeah, we all have our ownpreferences and and our
preferences tend to expand whenpleasure is added, right?

(16:26):
Like if something feelspleasurable, then you're like,
oh, I'm gonna try it this waytoo.
More pleasure, please.
But you also have devices, sextech is helping bridge, as you
mentioned in the beginning, longdistance relationships.
And we know that somerelationships I've been in so
many long distancerelationships, and those

(16:49):
relationships need help.
But even in your standard, ifyou will, relationships, there
are times when people aretraveling and apart.
Or disabled people, or disabledpeople.

SPEAKER_01 (17:04):
So the way we see it, and we started 15 years ago.
What was very common for peopleis obviously I think internet
and over distance istwo-dimensional.
So we can see each other and wecan hear each other, but we
can't feel each other.
And what we try to do is to comeup with technology which help to

(17:24):
add that third dimension to theinternet so that you and I could
feel each other through adevice, but still what I do
without a delay, you would feel,and and that's the biggest
challenge because to bridge thatgap between Amsterdam and I
think it's the West Coast you'recurrently in.

SPEAKER_00 (17:48):
No, I'm on the East Coast right now.

SPEAKER_01 (17:49):
Oh, sorry, East Coast.
Okay, sorry.
So to bridge that gap, that's alot of kilometers or miles to to
be bridged.
So to to bridge that without awithout even like 200
milliseconds delay.
That's and that's what we whatdrives us.
Like what can we think of andwhat kind of devices can we
create to add that thirddimension to the internet.

SPEAKER_00 (18:12):
And so the devices you created have a piece for the
man, yeah, or the person with apenis that goes over.
It's like uh it's like a pussy,if you will.

SPEAKER_01 (18:25):
Yeah, or an interactive masturbator.
We have all kinds of interactivemeal devices for the penis.
So it's it can add suction, itcan add vibration, or it can add
completely full stroking.
And that's also what we did iswe we made it modular.
So it can all work together.

(18:45):
So all those three differentsensations you can even control
individually or together.

SPEAKER_00 (18:51):
So the partner on the other side of the world can
control that.

SPEAKER_01 (18:56):
Yeah, and it can also, it's completely uh you can
mix and match.
So it's male, female, male, itdoesn't matter.
So it obviously depends on thefeatures of the device, what you
can do with it.
Some device so there's a femaledevice with a touch sensitive
sensor in it, which means thisis the same kind of technology
as on the smartphone, so itmeasures depth and speed, right?

(19:18):
So when she is using thatdevice, she can send that signal
to the male device, and the maleinteractive male masturbator can
be controlled and go up anddown.
But at the same time, he cansend out a signal and controls
the intensity of the vibration.
So it there are all kinds ofoptions, but if she wants to

(19:40):
give him, for example, hissuction, so she can basically
control the suction of themasturbator.

SPEAKER_00 (19:49):
She has a device that she can use on herself.

SPEAKER_01 (19:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
You are having sex, except and you're both
controlling what happens to theother person or syncing it up
together, but you can't betogether, so you're doing it
with the devices.
That's hot.

SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
It is like phone sex three pence zero, right?

SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
They go way better than phone sex.
That's incredible.
I've got to put that on mybucket list because I've not
I've never done that.
I've never done this, believe itor not.
I've never done this.
It's safe sex.
No condoms are needed, no stressafterwards.
You don't, yeah.
That's not bad.
Not bad, not a bad deal.
Yeah.

(20:28):
But then you brought up alsothat this can help people with
disabilities.
Can you talk about that a littlebit?

SPEAKER_01 (20:34):
Yeah, because obviously it's it can be
hands-free, uh, for example, fora guy.
We have all kind of uh we've allkind of accessories, obviously,
as well.
So it can help obviously, itdepends about the the disability
you have.
But I've received emails fromcustomers where it literally
changed their lives.

(20:54):
And and that's obviously verysatisfying to uh to hear if you
really can help people.

SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
And I would imagine even in situations where someone
might be paralyzed from thewaist down and not able to
physically have sex in atraditional way.
This would be another way tolike please your partner.

SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
Yeah, because if they still can have an
direction, then you know, thenthey they can exactly.
And so in in that way, it's shecan literally give him a
blowjob, a hand job, or havingsex, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
From wherever she's at, from wherever she's at.
But I like that it also isbrought into the bedroom.
Like these toys aren't just forwhen you're separated, although
it would be fun.
Like you could like haveafternoon sex from work this way
too, spice it up a little bit.
I like that.
I like that.
But they also come into thebedroom when you're together.

(21:50):
We know from your survey thathas improved intimacy.
It's closed the orgasm gap inrelationships.
And I would say the orgasm gapis probably one of the top
reasons people becomedissatisfied with sex in their
relationships.
I think that women struggle morethan men to have orgasms, and

(22:13):
sex starts to feel like work.
Sex starts to feel like work,and when it feels like work,
you're going to want to do itless often if the payoff doesn't
seem like it's potentially goingto be worth it.
But I am curious about this.
There are a lot of people, andI'm going to say that especially

(22:34):
men who struggle with the ideaof so much technology coming
into the bedroom.
I'd like to hear your thoughtson that concern that technology
is taking over the bedroom toomuch.

SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
Yeah.
Maybe the uh they feel that itwill replace the guy, or which
is obviously not the case.
It doesn't replace you.
And that's what we have seenwith actually with the Luxus, is
that it actually empowers theguy because now his penis is
controlling her device.

(23:08):
So it actually gives him morepower.
But yeah, no, you heard thesame, but what we saw in the
survey is that uh from thecouples at least they who tested
the device, it didn't scare theguy off, it empowered him
actually.

SPEAKER_00 (23:26):
It made him feel like more successful.
There's definitely a kinkyaspect to it too.
You could turn that into somekinky fun.
There is a power playopportunity there for couples
who want to experience that.
Have any of the people who haveused the product or participated

(23:46):
in the research share some didthey share some s stories that
surprised you?
Ways in which the productenhanced their life or affected
their sex life.

SPEAKER_01 (23:58):
Well they felt reconnection, which I think is
extremely important.
For me, the most important thingwas that it that the device kept
this promise.
And and to be honest, that wasbecause we have put so much
research into this and years ofdevelopment, because we really

(24:21):
believe that after so many yearsthere was so I was fascinated by
the thing that that the C shapehas been invented by WeVib, and
the entire industry copied it.
And for like I think almost 17years now, it was only copying

(24:42):
the same shape, different color,extra motor, one motor, two
motors, but it's never beenreinvented.
And when we started thisproject, oh yeah, you can
imagine how keen we were to, butit still needed to be a better
version of 17 years ago, right?

(25:03):
Of the C shape.
And to be honest, when I sawthat such a huge percentage of
our test audience really enjoyedit, I well that was a big relief
for me.

SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Yeah, we bet, I bet.
And it is a different technologyusing the proximities sensors.
A lot of smart tech has reallyjust been used to connect over
the internet and throughBluetooth from a distance.
And this device is used toconnect in the bedroom, which is

(25:38):
where a lot of struggle happenswith partners just connecting in
the bedroom and getting in themood and maintaining the mood,
much less building to orgasm.

SPEAKER_01 (25:48):
And also you can use the setup of the device
definitely the first time, alsoa little bit in foreplay.
So it's because I think that'salso what scares people off.
Like, oh, but then it disruptthe moment, or but in the end,
it's about how you deal with it.
If you use it as foreplay, ifyou use to try it out, hey, what

(26:10):
happens?
This, hey, if I do this, hey, soobviously you don't need to go
full on.
You can laugh about it.
When I was with my partner, whenwe were testing the device in
prototypes, it wasn't were notthe production samples, they
were prototypes, and also theapp wasn't prototype at that
moment.
So it was it was struggling,obviously, the first time.

(26:32):
Like, hey, how hey, how doesthis work?
And now she asked me, like, hey,how is you should know?
I was oh no, I don't know, Idon't know how it'll work the
team event.
Like, I don't know what the techguys did, but in the end, you
use that also as yeah, asforeplay.
And I think that's also whatpeople can because the first

(26:52):
time, yeah, you need to set itup a little bit.
You need to, hey, you the guyslike me don't read manuals, so
that's not helpful in thismatter.
So my my my wife is reading themanual, anyway.

SPEAKER_00 (27:07):
No, I mean, I think that's a good point.
I think that also bringing toysinto the bedroom helps with what
sex is supposed to be forcouples.
It's supposed to be playful andfun and sometimes funny and
sometimes hilarious, right?
And that's part of building upthe foreplay and getting into

(27:32):
the mood when you can laughtogether and explore together.
And I think that then alsoremoves some of the work aspect
of it that oftentimes peoplefeel like they don't want to get
into sex because they're like,okay, I'm gonna have to get in
the mood, and then I'm gonnahave to get him hard, and then
I'm gonna have to like get back,you know what I mean?

(27:53):
And it should be this playfulexperience that builds together.
But that's what's fun aboutbringing toys into the bedroom,
is it takes it from this justlike crawl on top of each other
and like hump to this fullexperience, right?

SPEAKER_01 (28:09):
I agree, I agree, fully agree.
Yeah, and there are so many toysand so many sensations, and not
only for a lot of couples, andthey still believe that it's
only for her, but it's more andmore for him as well.
Yes, for over the distance, butdefinitely also for in in in the
same bedroom.

SPEAKER_00 (28:28):
One of the questions I was gonna ask you is like, how
could this kind of technologyhelp couples who have been
separated, who have hadinfidelities because of
dissatisfaction, reconnect andsave their relationship?

SPEAKER_01 (28:46):
I think it's also the play, the playful part, and
and that what she does, hefeels, or what she does, he
feel, or like so it's the andyeah, and that's obviously still
for a lot of people very new.
And sometimes it's also more itfeels more secure for people if

(29:07):
they don't if they are not inthe same room, they feel more
comfortable or explore andexploring or showing what or
telling the other, telling yourpartner what they like or
dislike or different they wantsomething different.

SPEAKER_00 (29:20):
Yeah, I think it's it gives an opportunity to like
talk about what each person isfeeling and why it felt good and
what made it feel good.
And I think that's again goingback to the beginning of this
conversation where we saidcouples don't talk about sex,
they don't even talk about thatmost basic thing, what felt

(29:43):
good, how it felt, why it feltgood, so that they can repeat
that again and again.
And this kind of technologygives the opportunity for
conversation around what it'sdoing and why it feels good, and
why it's feels good.

SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
What they and like like you just said, like why do
they like it and why or why not?
To bring that communication backinto the bedroom is so
important.

SPEAKER_00 (30:09):
Well, and don't you think that people find it easier
to talk about what the toy isdoing that feels good rather
than what your partner's dick isdoing or what your vagina is
doing?
We are so uncomfortable for goodreason, the way many of us have
been socialized with talkingabout bodies and how bodies

(30:31):
feel.
So maybe a first step to that istalking about the device and
what about it feels good, andthen eventually moving into our
own bodies once we gain thatconfidence.

SPEAKER_01 (30:43):
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 (30:46):
Yeah, it's a stepping stone of sorts.

SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
Yeah.
This kind of technology not onlybridges distances physical, but
it can bridge distances withinan emotional relationship, where
it's been hard being intimateand sharing that kind of
information with one another.
It can also teach us how tocommunicate with each other.
So I'm curious now as we wrapthis up, where do you see the

(31:10):
future of this kind oftechnology taking the bedroom
experience for folks?

SPEAKER_01 (31:19):
I think sometimes it even feels although it's I
started 15 years ago and 10 10years.
No, yes, almost 15 years, and 10years ago we launched our first
product.
It feels like an ages and aroller coaster, but at the same
time it it feels like we're justgetting started.
And now with the technology ismoving so fast, now AI comes is

(31:44):
there as well, and we're usingthat.
We're started, for example, it'sa completely different story.
But we started already in 2017to uh working on AI and to see
how how we could recognizesexual activity on screen and
translate that into a signal toa device.

(32:06):
Yeah, so we uh we launched thattwo years ago, and the the AI is
getting obviously more precise.
So it's so for me it feels thatwe're still like getting
started, what's what's possible,and we haven't hit the
boundaries yet.
We're and I think we're stillwe're learning and improving and

(32:26):
how to use the technology in ina better way, and adding
sensations to the devices, andyeah, it I think it's super
exciting, also for the upcomingcoming 10 years.

SPEAKER_00 (32:39):
Yeah, we're just gonna be having better and
better sex, and we are gonnahave more tools for it.
I'm like a big believer inadding tools to the bedroom to
keep things interesting,especially for long-term
relationships, right?

SPEAKER_01 (32:55):
Yeah, exactly.
For example, if you want to sendan interesting video to your
partner and your partner is notin the same time zone, and that
video has a has a fun script init, so it and it controls the
toy of your partner at thatpoint.

SPEAKER_00 (33:11):
So an interesting video, is that what you called
it?
Oh, that's sweet.
Interesting, I like that.
And then the video has a scriptthat tells the toy what to do,
what to do, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (33:24):
And that's so in the beginning we were like putting
the technology into the toy sothat the toy was basically
creating that script, but nowand we're we can do it way
better because we don't needthat the toy doesn't need to
create that script anymorebecause the AI is literally like
reading what happens and createsthat signal for the toy.

SPEAKER_00 (33:47):
It's an interactive video.

SPEAKER_01 (33:49):
It's an interactive video, yeah.
Yeah, and but back in the daysor 10 years ago, we were
literally like I had a team inVietnam creating that script,
writing that code, telling thetoy to go up or down or up or
down or stop when it needed tostop or start when it and in it
that was in 2015, and we werelike, this is not gonna be
sustainable, like so.

(34:11):
We need to come up withdifferent technology.
Yeah.
So our knowledge goes obviouslyquite deep and quite broad.
What's we have all kinds ofprojects where we work on not
only for couples in the bedroombut also for other areas.
Single, single folks, singlefolks or for performers, male or

(34:33):
female, wants to connect toaudio scripts or to video or
yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (34:38):
All kinds of great again.
I work with people every day whoare truly like struggling in
their relationships or even intheir own ability to orgasm and
experience pleasure.
And I have found that toys, theright toy, is key to helping
people even just reconnect withtheir own pleasure and then be

(35:01):
able to take the knowledge ofhow to access their own pleasure
to their partner and havefulfilling sex life.
And the smart tech that iscoming to toys is kind of crazy
and really improving people'slives and in some ways that I
hadn't even thought of.

SPEAKER_01 (35:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:23):
My question to you for my listeners is what would
you suggest to them if any ofthem at this point in time are
struggling within theirrelationship?
A, obviously long, but there'ssome sort of distance or
disconnect in their intimaterelationship.
Can you give them just sometakeaways from this
conversation, things they couldstart doing right now to

(35:47):
reconnect using the smart tech?

SPEAKER_01 (35:51):
I would buy an interactive toy and start the
conversation with your partneror surprise your partner and
spice it up a bit.
If you prefer in the bedroom,you buy a luxus.
If you don't know, if you're ifyou are in a long distance
relationship or you prefer notto be together and try something
out, buy another key orinteractive toy.

(36:13):
And uh I would definitely justtry it.
What what what can happen?
What's the worst?
What's what's the downside orthe upside, right?
The downside is that you have aconversation with your partner,
like I'm not so into it.
The upside is that you mightspice up your life a bit, and in
the end, get closer togetheragain and start the

(36:34):
conversation.
And maybe you start talkingabout this, but in the end you
you end up here, which is alsofine.

SPEAKER_00 (36:40):
Yeah.
Well, and the cool thing aboutthese interactive toys is it's
not just for her.
It's not just about her body orabout the vulva or the clitoris,
it's not just about the penis,it's about both people and
pleasuring both people andinteracting, right?
This isn't just a just for her.

(37:00):
And I think oftentimes men inmore heteronormative
relationships feel like, well,toys are just for women, but
this is for everyone.
And I think you're right.
The worst that's gonna happen isyou're gonna have an adventure
with your partner.
You're gonna have a sexualadventure with your partner, and
nothing bad ever comes.
Well, most of the time, nothing,no, I'm not gonna say ever.

(37:23):
There have been some prettyinfluence, but most of the time
bringing adventure into thebedroom is an improvement for
people.

SPEAKER_01 (37:30):
Yeah, I agree.
And uh so if that's the worstthing what can happen, that's
not so bad, I think.

SPEAKER_00 (37:36):
Not so bad.
Can you tell my listeners wherethey can find out more about you
and the products that you'reoffering?

SPEAKER_01 (37:42):
Yeah, so we can so on the on Luxus Amsterdam, you
can find everything aboutluxusamsterdam.com.
You can find everything, but uhalso from our uh main website,
Kiru, you can uh you can findeverything about Luxus.
And and even I think if youGoogle my name, then you can
find so a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (38:02):
Indeed, I did do that.
So I did my research.
Also, I will be sending out ane-newsletter and a substack uh
that goes along with thisepisode.
So, guys, look for that, scrolldown below, and I will be giving
you links to different productsto look for.
I will be categorizing them bywhat different things they can

(38:23):
help with, whether it's longdistance or emotional disconnect
or conversation or in thebedroom, so that you'll have
options to try for whateveryou're looking for, whatever
struggle or whatever adventureyou're hoping to go on.
So you can check it out there.
Thank you so much for joining metoday and helping my listeners

(38:45):
understand a little bit moreabout what Smart Sex Tech has to
offer them and me.

SPEAKER_01 (38:51):
My pleasure.
Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_00 (38:54):
All right, listeners, if you have any
questions, comments, you cancheck this episode out on my
YouTube channel if you're just alistener at Talk Sex within it.
Now there, I am going toactually be putting pictures up
on my video of the differenttoys.
So you can go over there and youcan actually see them, which
will help you.

(39:15):
So make sure you do that.
If you are interested in findingout more, you can also drop a
comment or question in thecomment section below the videos
on YouTube.
And if you just don't want to goover to YouTube, you can email
me at Annette atTalkSexwithanette or check out
my website where I will havesome of these products.
And you can find me there attalksexwithanet.com.

(39:36):
Until next time, thank you againfor joining me.
And to my listeners, I'll seey'all in the locker room.
Cheers.

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