August 17, 2023 • 32 mins
Discover the powerful and inspiring story of Dr. Catherine Harman Toomer, who found her calling in the world of health and wellness following a personal health crisis. As the CEO and founder of Health, Wellness, and Weight Loss Centers, Dr. Toomer transformed her life 22 years ago, choosing to prioritize her family, personal health, and financial freedom. Join us as she shares how she has mastered the art of balance, refining her business model so she can enjoy life's moments while still ensuring her business thrives.
This episode is all about the power of intentionality. Dr. Tumor takes us on a journey of self-discovery, demonstrating how saying 'no' and being selective with your time can lead to personal and professional success. Hear how she has tailored her work schedule to accommodate her family's needs, emphasizing the importance of evaluating opportunities carefully. Dr. Toomer shares her secret weapon - a unique three-step formula for avoiding shiny object syndrome, a must for any entrepreneur trying to carve out their path without getting derailed.
Finally, Dr. Tumor provides valuable insights for physician entrepreneurs and those looking for ways to maximize their health and wellness. Understand how she's managed to build her team and increase her visibility in the field. Dr. Tumor's wisdom doesn't stop there. She offers guidance on identifying the right opportunities and shares her invaluable advice for other entrepreneurs. This episode is a treasure trove of knowledge for anyone trying to reconcile their entrepreneurial dreams with their personal life. Don't miss out!
Additional Resources:
- Learn more about my 12-month program.
- Interested in 1-on-1 coaching? Apply here.
- Grab a copy of the "The EntreMD Method" book.
When you are ready to work with us, here are three ways:
- EntreMD Business School Accelerator - If you are looking to make a 180 turnaround in your business in 90 days, this is the program for you.
- EntreMD Business School Grow - This is our year-long program with a track record of producing physician entrepreneurs who are building 6, 7 and 7+ figure businesses. They do this while building their dream lives!
- EntreMD Business School Scale - This is our high-level mastermind for physicians who have crossed the seven figure milestone and want to build their businesses to be well oiled machines that can run without them.
To get on a call with my team to determine your next best step, go here ...
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, dogs, welcome to the EntremD podcast, where it's
all about helping amazingphysicians just like you embrace
entrepreneurship so you canhave the freedom to live life
and practice medicine on yourterms.
I'm your host, dr Ibnah.
Well, hello everybody.
(00:23):
Welcome to another session ofInside the EntremD Business
School.
I am so excited to be here, andthe reason why I started this
is because there are so manyunbelievable stories of doctors
in the EntremD Business School,the things they're doing in
their businesses, the strategiesthey're implementing, and I
(00:46):
could not figure out any way tolet the entire physician
community get to it except thisway.
So I have today, dr Tumor.
She's at this point, I think Icould say she's a regular.
She's been on the podcast anumber of times, she's been on
EntremD Live a number of timesand here we are now and it's
just a testament to her abilityto continue to evolve and
(01:08):
continue to take her businessfrom one step to another.
So, dr Tumor, welcome to theshow.
Thank you for having me.
I always enjoy it.
Oh, my goodness, I'm so happyyou're here.
Okay, so I'm going to give youa moment to introduce yourself
to a listener.
There's some people here whoare like she's a regular.
I haven't heard her storybefore, but I'll have you
briefly introduce yourself andthen we're going to go into all
(01:30):
the yumminess that's been thefirst half of the year for you.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
All right.
Well, I am Dr Catherine HarmanTumor and you can find me
anywhere on the internet,because I'm the only one Dr
Catherine Harman Tumor on theinternet.
I am the CEO and founder ofHealth, wellness and Weight Loss
Centers and I maximized healthand wellness through weight loss
and then I use a very targetedhealth and wellness measures,
(01:53):
also through weight loss, toimprove people's health and
wellness, and I do this as acoach.
I do that as a consultant andnow as a speaker, and I help
people one on one, I help peoplein a group and recently have
added advocacy to my platebecause, as I've been helping
people through treatment andthrough testing and the like,
(02:17):
there's been a gap that I'mtrying to fill now, and so
advocacy has been added to mylist of things that I do.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
As if you don't do enough already, right.
And after advocacy, there'sgoing to be more.
So it is why I know so I am formyself I'm excited to hear
about the first half of the yearfor you, because we've worked
together for many years at thispoint and there is a kind of
business you want to build andthere's a kind of life you want
(02:47):
to live, right?
I know from working with youthat your time with family or
your time for yourself is almostmore important to you than
whatever revenue goal, right?
So with you, we've always hadto figure out, like how can we
help you build the business youwant without compromising what
your real priorities are, right?
(03:07):
So I want to share briefly,like what you know, what your
priorities are like.
What's your dream month foryour dream first half of the
year, what are those prioritiesand then what has happened in
the first first half of the yearfor you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
All right.
Well, I think I should give alittle bit of background so it
makes sense.
22 years ago I went intocongestive heart failure a month
after my daughter was born andI was morbidly obese and I had
type two diabetes on insulin.
And that trying to get myhealth together is how I created
the program that I actually usefor my business now.
(03:43):
So I lost 107 pounds.
I used that method now with myclients, with my patients, so
I've and I was told at the timethat I had a 50% chance of
living five years.
So for me, time has always beenthe number one importance, and
time to watch my children growup, because for a good five
(04:03):
years I was scared I would neversee them graduate from
kindergarten and let alonecollege.
And so I always have measuredmy revenue in my family first my
time, second I health, thirdand then financial revenue, and
so that's always been the caseand because of that all of it
has grown.
I have a more time with myfamily, I have more flexibility,
(04:26):
and because of the revenuebecause I don't really chase
revenue it just seems to come tome and allows me then to apply
it to my time and my family, andso that has always been my goal
and everything I've done.
I've always looked for a systemthat allows me that same
flexibility, that same amount oftime.
(04:47):
And what my success has been isthat each year I've been able
to hone my system, hone myproduct, so to speak, into a way
so that I can use it.
Right now I am not at home, I'mactually at my mother's home.
She's 93 years old.
I was able to come here, spenda week and still work, still
(05:08):
have my business run To me.
That is the ultimate in successand, if anything, I've done
that more and more in the lastyear and my revenue has grown
more and more, and I think,partly because my mindset has
been this is what you wanted,this is where you are, and so I
haven't been fighting myself andfighting the process.
And so now I'm, and I'm stillgrowing, things are still coming
(05:32):
at me without even reallytrying now, because I'm in a
good, nice, smooth place where Ican just sit back and allow
myself the peace of being anentrepreneur, because that's
truly what ultimately it is.
You just become, it becomes aplace of peace.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, so I'm going to .
This is the gift.
This is the gift you're givingus.
Right, you had the scaryexperience.
We did it, right, but thatexperience put you in a position
where because whenever you havean experience like that, it's
an opportunity to see life forwhat it is, to put things in
their proper place.
And so the gift you're givingus is, even though we didn't
(06:11):
have that experience, well, ourfamily is something, and I say
this all the time I'm willing tobuild multiple very successful
businesses.
I'm not willing to do it at theexpense of my family, right,
and so the family is a prioritythat we want to keep that up
there.
We want to keep time up there.
We want to keep health up there.
I have the gift of theprivilege of talking with a lot
(06:32):
of people who are older andthey'll say, oh, I wish you the
best of success in your business.
And all of a sudden, andthey're like, all I need is my
health, right, Constantly, all Ineed is my.
And I'm like, If we're, I'mgoing to be saying that I might
as well prioritize that now,right, I don't need to wait till
I'm 90 or whatever, right andso.
And then the revenue and reallywhat you're painting is a
(06:52):
picture of the fact that it'spossible, right?
So in EBS we talk aboutdreaming or building your dream
business and building your dreamlife at the same time.
Right, so you did a post in thegroup.
And to give context to this, inthe entrepreneur business
school we live 90 days at a time, so our year is a 90 day block.
And so July 1st we were likehappy new, happy EBS new year,
(07:13):
right, Because that's what we do.
And so then we share, like thisthese are the wins have
happened, these are the lessonsI've learned.
This is what I'm looking to forthe next 90 day block.
And so you shared.
It was very clear.
I could tell, like a revenuegoal, a time goal, a family goal
, like there.
It was just there.
It's like that's just herpriorities on display.
(07:34):
So talk to us about what those,what those wins were.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well and you're going to laugh because this is me
always I can't tell you exactlyhow much I've grown from last
quarter to this quarter, becauseI always look at the money last
.
I can tell you that from lastyear to this time, there's been
a 220% growth from last year tothis year at this same time.
And so and the only reason Iknow that is because when I
(08:03):
shine into my various platforms,they tell me I don't go looking
for it, I can't avoid it.
So, but what I can tell you isthat the other growth that has
happened I've spent more timehere with my mother this year
than I have ever spent.
I am one of eight children.
It is very rare Anyone from alarge family knows to have your
(08:23):
parent to yourself.
I was with my mother for almosta whole month by myself.
That is so valuable.
I got to hear stories I'd neverheard before.
I got to get insight, herwisdom, her knowledge, and I got
to absorb that.
That is so invaluable I can'teven put a dollar or amount on
that.
But not only was I able to dothat, I continued seeing my
(08:45):
clients, I continued having mymeetings.
I continued all of those thingsbecause I could.
The other growth has been Ilost family members that were
very close to me this year and Imourn I allow myself to mourn
when that happened, and so inallowing myself to do that, I
was able to take time for myself, for my family, for everyone
(09:08):
who needed me emotionally andphysically, so I could be
present.
I wasn't distracted by anythingelse and I had a nice system in
place, a nice team in place whoprotected me, who allowed my
business to continue growing.
Now, mind you, this 200% growthhappened during this time when
I was really distracted andreally preoccupied, but I had
(09:31):
put in the groundwork before,and so I was able to do that.
So trying to put a dollaramount on that is impossible.
It's just too invaluable to puta dollar amount.
But I can tell you the actualdollar amount was 200% more than
last year.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Love it and you had the time with your daughters.
You were all about theirgraduations, like.
So, yeah, like your tank isfamily wise, is like completely
full.
I'm thinking right, like justfrom observing, and you said
something about reducing theactual time you worked by a
third, leveraging your team.
Okay, so let's put this inperspective.
(10:07):
Year over year growth we'retalking about 220%.
In the meantime, more time withfamily Sometimes we're talking
a month long time with familythat you've ever had before.
You worked a third less thanyou typically work, and this is
for the first six months of theyear.
Like how wild is that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Even just this week.
So what happened?
I wasn't anticipating having tobe here to help my daughters
move.
They're moving in together to anew city and I'm here, and it
happens to be the same citywhere my mother lives.
So what I did was, as soon as Ifound out that week they were
going to need me, that week, Icompletely shut down my schedule
and I didn't cancel anyappointments simply because I
wanted to make sure that thosethat I honored the ones that
(10:51):
were there, but I didn't allowany new ones.
And so I was able to do thatwhile staying in contact with my
team and continuing.
And I checked my revenues.
It's the same because I createda system where it's ongoing, so
that I didn't have to payattention to the little details
every single day, because I knowme as soon as my daughters call
(11:13):
, I drop everything else, and Iwant that.
Some people like that too much.
But as I'm 58 years old now,I'm starting to wind down a
little bit.
I've started to thinking aboutretirement and what we know,
what life's going to look likeoutside of practicing or outside
of medicine completely, and sonow that life has sort of made
(11:34):
me slow down a little, Irealized I can maintain that I
can keep that and not go back towhere I was.
Some of it wasn't intentional,but some of it was just life.
No-transcript.
Happy accidents, life and happyaccidents.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
This is golden because and I think this is also
a pointer like, even if youfeel like you had a difficult,
distracted difference, kind ofquarter or first half of the
year, it's really important tostop and take stock of what
happened, right?
Because what you it all dependson what you focus on, right?
Like you had all these thingshappen, but it didn't change the
(12:16):
fact that your business grew.
It didn't change the fact thatyou work less, which is a
priority for you.
It didn't change the fact thatyou had all this time to spend
with family, and it was kind ofpractice for, like, okay, so if
I were to do this on purpose,what do I need to do to make
this where my business cancontinue to grow?
I can continue to do the thingsthat are important to me, and
(12:36):
it all works.
So, so this is good.
Now I want you to talk a littlebit about some of the things
you think you did that madethese wins possible, and I'm
gonna start off by saying one,which is you've done the work,
you've been doing the work, likeyou have consistently done the
(12:57):
work, and you're coming to thisplace where it's a big snowball
thing.
You just have that Midas touch.
Everything you touch is workingand even when you decide to
slow down, you've done so muchthat the ripple effect just
continues.
That's just my observation.
But what are some of the thingsyou've done that you think are
responsible for thisridiculously amazing first half
of the year, and what are someof the things you stopped?
(13:21):
Because you said some of thatand I was like people need to
know.
So, yeah, tell us all thethings.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, number one, and I'm gonna be very honest, and I
know this might embarrass you,but I really truly followed the
entrant theme of it.
I mean honestly, and not evenall that well, to be honest.
I do my best, but if it gets inthe way of my time and family I
don't do it.
But I have, but for the mostpart I at least try to do some
(13:46):
of it every single day and so,and as a result, that little bit
of inching forward, and Iremember talking to you once and
saying I feel like I'm shuttingdown, just so much is happening
.
I'm getting overwhelmed, but itwas emotional shutdown mostly,
and you said just do a littlebit every day to inch your
business forward, to inchsomething forward.
And so I always use that, evenif it's just 15 minutes of
(14:09):
getting something in, so I couldsay, okay, I accomplished
something today.
And so I've always done that.
And if you add that up over ayear, over two years, it just
pushes you forward.
It may not be as fast as somepeople want, it may not be as
fast even as I wanted, butthat's part of what I did.
I gave myself grace, I followedthe method, I gave myself grace
(14:31):
, I didn't set my expectationsto the point where they were
realistic.
They were higher than before,but I didn't set myself up for
failure, and so and plus, I justdon't see anything as a failure
.
I just say everything islessons.
So my feeling is that I wasn'tsupposed to be here, so anything
(14:52):
that happens is a blessing.
I mean, that's my mindsetalways.
The other thing that I did,though, was that I really looked
at opportunities for what theywere.
I analyzed them.
It's very easy to put our egointo whatever we're offered and
say, ooh, that's something Ishould have, that's something I
should do, that's something andso, but I had to say no to some
(15:15):
things because I knew they weredistractions, I knew they were
getting away they might, partlybecause I knew I'd be good at it
and I knew I'd be successful,but it was going to take me in
the direction, away from myfoundation of the things that I
wanted, particularly because Istarted speaking.
I have speaking opportunities.
Some of those opportunitieswould have taken me somewhere
(15:35):
that, yes, would have fed my ego, yes, would have been nice and
flashy, but they would not havesustained me for the rest of my
life, and so my philosophy isalways if I do it now, I need to
be able to do it when I'm 90.
Otherwise it's not somethingfor me because, like I said, my
mother's 93.
I can very well and veryfunctional.
So at 93, I could very well besitting here having another
(15:58):
talking to someone and I don'twant to have been somewhere else
.
That shut me down physicallybecause it was too much, and so
I often say no to things and toopportunities and then and I'm
very quick to pivot if I'm goingdown a path and I see that path
is taking me somewhere that Ireally didn't want to go, I just
stop and come back and go backto my foundation and so, as you
(16:21):
always say, dr, you know, do thebusiness before the business.
I've done that consistently.
One of the biggest changes Imade over that time was being
visible.
There was a time when Iwouldn't even have done this, I
would not have allowed myself tobe interviewed on video, and
now I do YouTube.
I have I stream to YouTube,instagram and Facebook once a
(16:45):
week at least.
I interview people weekly.
I have a TikTok account, I havea YouTube account, a channel.
I mean all those things that Inever would have even imagined
doing before, and even when I goback and look at my old videos,
they're horrible, but I don'tcare.
I love them because I see thegrowth, I see how it, and so
(17:07):
just I guess, to make a longstory long, just to do the work
in any amount of increments thatyou can and not allow yourself
to be distracted by the shinypennies that are out there
because someone has convincedyou that's what you're supposed
to do.
We have a method.
It really works.
(17:27):
It's now in a book, so you haveno excuse not to find it and
read it.
And really, I mean, it's just,it just works.
And I know you didn't invite mehere to promote your book or to
vote your method, but I am aliving testament to that method.
I started out at zero.
I had a brick and mortar office.
I was shut down during thepandemic.
(17:47):
I pivoted within a week becauseof using your method to get
online, and now my business grew100%, virtually, and now I'm oh
gosh, I think I'm at 2000%,where I was when I started, or
more, I can't even, to be honest, I don't know, because the
first three months was 600% andnow, from last year, it's been
(18:09):
200% and I've been in businessnow for six years.
So I'll have to go and do themath, because right now I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You do have to go do the math, okay, but I do want to
thank you.
That is such a beautifulbreakdown.
It makes me.
I have questions for you, butfor everyone listening though I
hope you pick this up the word Iwould use to describe the bulk
of what you said isintentionality, right,
intentionality.
So, yes, I cannot work on allthe things, but these high level
(18:39):
things that I can work on,consistently right, and that
will bring this.
Yes, I can have this shinyobject.
If it's not taking me where I'mintending to go to, anyway, I'm
going to say no to it.
It's a distraction that isdisguised as an opportunity,
right, and it's allintentionality.
So I want you to talk a littlebit about saying no to
(19:01):
opportunities, because I cannottell you how many entrepreneurs
that I've seen.
They were going in onedirection.
I took two shiny objects andnow they don't have a business,
right, because they were justtoo distracted to make anything
grow.
So talk about saying no toopportunities.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So what I often do first is, if an opportunity
comes my way, my first questionis would I have sought that out
had it not come to me?
And if the answer is yes, thenI'm like okay, then I'll sit
with it and I'll look at it andsee it for what it is.
If the answer is no, I say no.
I mean if it was something?
And it's not one of thosethings where, oh, my imagination
was too small and I didn'tthink of it.
(19:41):
No, that means that someoneelse's idea of what I should do,
that's someone else's dream.
How am I their product?
Because that's often the case,especially with physicians we
often become the product forother people.
And so when they start showingme things, my first thought am I
the product?
We're not, and often they'remaking their money off of my
(20:04):
intellectual property.
They're making their money offof my time and using me to do
that, even though, yes, I'll bethe face, yes, I'll be out there
and I'll be getting theattention.
But ultimately they are theones who are gaining.
And so that's my first thing Ilook to see who benefits the
most financially from thisopportunity.
And if it's not me not sayingI'm greedy, but if it's someone
(20:27):
else using me for that, I say no.
The other thing that I do whenlooking and if it's something
that says yes, it is something Iwould have pursued I look at my
plan.
Was this part of my six monthplan, my one year plan, my five
year 10 year plan?
If it was part of my 10 yearplan, is it something?
If I pull it forward, is itgoing to not knock out some of
(20:48):
my six month plan?
Because my six month plans wereput in place when I was level
headed and not distracted and myego was set aside, and so I've
laid out that plan when I wasbeing objective.
So when the shiny object comes,is it going to knock any of
those things out of the way?
And if the answer is yes, andit's too many of those things,
(21:11):
then of course, then I say no.
If it's something that I couldflop in, jump right back, then I
may say yes.
If I say yes, I always look athow much time is it going to
take how much of my revenue myhealth revenue, my time revenue,
my financial revenue is itgoing to cost me money to do it?
Is it going to cost me time?
Is it going to cost time for myfamily, or is it something that
(21:35):
I can pull my family in?
Are you asking me to comesomeplace that I can turn this
into a vacation and spend withmy family?
If the answer is yes, then Idon't care if it costs me money,
because now I get that revenueback with their time and their
experiences.
And so I just put all I justthink about things really
logically, really objectively,and I make sure that I write
(21:59):
down things, because it's veryeasy to forget what you wanted a
year from now.
When something bright isshining in your face, you can't
see.
I mean, it's like anything.
If you're sitting in the darkand someone shines a light in
your face, suddenly you can'tsee anything else but that light
, and so you may.
If you haven't written downstuff, you forget what's behind
(22:20):
the light, and so you've got tohave it written down and to
remind yourself constantly whatit was you truly wanted when you
were sane and calm andobjective.
And so that's how I choose, andso with each incident it's
different.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, I didn't see that coming.
That was so good.
I was like these answers.
I was like, oh, I have to getmy team to edit this out.
Like how, the three stepformula to get rid of shiny
object syndrome forever this wasso good.
Okay, thank you for sharingthat.
That was so good.
Oh, my goodness, I didn't seethat coming.
(22:55):
That was good, okay.
So now you are, you're in theEntremde Business School
community.
You've been there for a while,and I always ask this because
it's almost impossible toexplain to somebody outside of
the school what the school islike.
Right, and so not everybody,but there's somebody here who's
watching, who's like I am aphysician.
(23:16):
I am committed to building asuccessful business.
I'm not willing to give up myfamily or my lifestyle to do it,
and all of that.
What would you say to thatperson?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well, one of the things that the business school
has done is giving me hugeshortcuts.
Instead of having to look foranswers myself, instead of
having to go through trial anderror, I have a whole community
of trial and errors to ask.
It's like, instead of sayingokay, and not only just the
trial and error, the trial anderrors and the nuances of the
(23:46):
situation so I have someone say,yeah, I did that, but my
business is XYZ.
Yeah, but my business is XYZ,and I did the exact same thing
and got the exact same result.
I'm like, okay, it's the system, it's not the business.
So I have that.
You have all that, just hugeamounts of information, and huge
not only just information onfrom a revenue standpoint or
(24:09):
process standpoint, butemotional standpoint, physical
standpoint, people at differentlevels of their life.
I have MNFD Nestor.
There are people who have smallchildren.
Their lives are going to bevery different and so, but if
you have someone who has threesmall children and they've
created a system that works forthem, imagine how much bigger
(24:29):
that system is going to work forme when I don't have children
around.
So I look at all of that and sothat's the community that I
just that's information.
That's again invaluable, that Iwould not have access to
otherwise, because in medicine,we've often been taught to be
competitive and I personallythink it's a divide and conquer
method, but that's another story.
(24:50):
So we've been sort of taught tocompete with one another, that
there's only a certain amount ina pie and only a certain amount
for each of us, and so if youtake yours, hold on to it and
don't share it with anybody else, One of the things that EBS has
done is it's made it very clearthat's a lie.
There is more than enough foreverybody, and the more you
(25:11):
share, the more of the pie youget, and so and that environment
is and I've said this beforewhat EBS has been for me is like
okay, I'm going to go out onfaith, I'm going to go and just
jump off a cliff, and I knowthere's a nice pillow of people
there ready to catch me if Ifall, If I don't soar which I
(25:32):
usually do and which most of usdo and even if we don't soar
right away, even if we're justkind of coasting and where
there's a lot of wind from thegroup to push you up under your
wings, that you start to fly,and even if you start to sink
again, that wind comes and justpushes you up.
All you have to do is ask, andthere is hundreds of people, and
not even just people who are inEBS now, prior EBS members, who
(25:56):
are still in contact with me,people who are thinking about
joining EBS.
It's like this community ofsharing that is just too
invaluable to describe, really,but what it truly is?
Just having a backup plan,multiple backup plans and not
even backup plans, just peopleat your back?
I mean that's I don't know howelse to describe it.
(26:18):
I hope that doesn't justice,but I don't think it did.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's a backup plan, it's people at your back.
I mean, thank you for sharingthat.
And I do want to say thank youfor sharing, because you're an
invaluable part of the community.
Right, you could have kept yourwins, you could have not shared
it.
You could have said, well, Ihave stuff going up, I don't
have time for this, but I thinkfor this quarter, you were
actually the first person to doyour post.
(26:43):
You did it even before I didthe post.
Like, it's time for IQ2Review,right, and so that's a testament
to the kind of sharing.
Right, you're sharing the wins,you're sharing the lessons,
you're sharing all of that andit's such a gift to everybody.
And here you are sharing itwith the entire physician
community.
So thank you for doing that.
And, of course, anybody who'son here and you're like I want
to know more about the school, Iwant to be part of these people
(27:05):
.
You can go turn in anapplication on trendycom.
I'll be happy to have thatconversation with you.
Dr Tuma, where do people findyou?
So, people are listening outhere and I'm going to say this
okay, if someone comes on hereto share their story, to take
you behind the scenes, to sharethe good, the bad the ugly.
The least we can do is supportthem and as physicians, we need
(27:26):
so many examples of what ispossible.
That is what is required for usto have the big shift we need
in the physician community.
So anything you can do tosupport another physician
entrepreneur, do it right.
This is how we make everythingdifferent for everybody.
So what is a good referral foryou?
So who do you take care of andwhere can people send people to
(27:47):
or where can they go?
Follow you on TikTok andsupport what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, a good referral for me is anyone who feels like
they're at the end of theirrope.
Either they just can't seem toget on top of their health,
their wellness, or they'restruggling with weight loss and
they're about to give up, orthey've just been told they've
just been shamed to the pointwhere they shut down, which is
where I was.
Both people send them to me andeven if I can't help them or
(28:13):
they can't utilize my services,I will find somebody who can.
I have a database of everyonewho does what I do so that I can
find someone for them.
The other is anyone who needsspeakers, who needs someone who
wants motivation.
I've done TED Talks.
I've done a lot of corporatespeaking on wellness.
I'll be speaking next week at anational conference.
(28:34):
Anyone who just wants speakerson health, wellness and posture
syndrome, anything that justsort of fits into the whole
person.
I'm your girl.
If you find that there issomeone who's having difficulty
navigating the medical system, Idon't help necessarily with
that, but I didn't have adatabase of people who are
(28:55):
willing to step in and help,because there is a huge gap in
the has and the have nots in ourmedical community.
Anyone who is having strugglingin any way, we'll help, we'll
find a way, but mostly you canfind me at DrTumorcom, that's
D-R-T-O-M-E-Rcom.
(29:16):
From there you can just sort offind me everywhere else YouTube
, instagram, Facebook, tiktokand email text message she is
visible.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
She told you she was working on her visibility.
She is visible.
To think that in the beginningyou're like I'm not doing a
video here, you are everywhere.
It is just so beautiful to see.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I was not only did I, it was me out with a one-woman
show.
I wouldn't hire anyone becauseI didn't want to interact with
anyone.
Now, here I am with a team andall these lives and videos and
all the rest is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's amazing.
Again, it's a testament to thework you've done and your
willingness to do what wasuncomfortable.
Building a team wasuncomfortable when you started
building a team.
Delegating to the team wasuncomfortable.
Doing the videos wasuncomfortable.
It was all uncomfortable.
But you're like okay, I'll justdo a little bit of it and
that's all it takes you can doit messy yeah do it messy.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I want to say big congratulations to you, and you
know how we are.
This second half is your besthalf, yet that's the way we roll
in EBS.
There's even more of thiscoming for you.
Thank you so much for sharingyour story, sharing your wisdom
Such a gift we have peoplewatching live right now on
YouTube.
In the comments, shout her outso she'll go look at the
(30:48):
comments and know that her storytouched you.
Let her know how her storyimpacted you.
Thank you for doing that.
Thank you for being aninvaluable part of the AndreMD
community To everybody watching.
We'll see you same time nextweek with more stories from
inside the AndreMD BusinessSchool.
Hey, if you love listening tothe AndreMD podcast, I want to
(31:12):
invite you to join AndreMD OnDemand.
It is my signature subscriptionprogram that gives you access
to a library of business coursesdesigned to help you do one
thing as a physicianentrepreneur, and that is to
thrive.
So head out to AndreMDcom,forward slash on demand and I'd
love to have you join us.
See you on the inside.
Hi, dogs, welcome to the EntremD podcast, where it's
all about helping amazingphysicians just like you embrace
entrepreneurship so you canhave the freedom to live life
and practice medicine on yourterms.
I'm your host, dr Ibnah.
Well, hello everybody.
(00:23):
Welcome to another session ofInside the EntremD Business
School.
I am so excited to be here, andthe reason why I started this
is because there are so manyunbelievable stories of doctors
in the EntremD Business School,the things they're doing in
their businesses, the strategiesthey're implementing, and I
(00:46):
could not figure out any way tolet the entire physician
community get to it except thisway.
So I have today, dr Tumor.
She's at this point, I think Icould say she's a regular.
She's been on the podcast anumber of times, she's been on
EntremD Live a number of timesand here we are now and it's
just a testament to her abilityto continue to evolve and
(01:08):
continue to take her businessfrom one step to another.
So, dr Tumor, welcome to theshow.
Thank you for having me.
I always enjoy it.
Oh, my goodness, I'm so happyyou're here.
Okay, so I'm going to give youa moment to introduce yourself
to a listener.
There's some people here whoare like she's a regular.
I haven't heard her storybefore, but I'll have you
briefly introduce yourself andthen we're going to go into all
(01:30):
the yumminess that's been thefirst half of the year for you.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
All right.
Well, I am Dr Catherine HarmanTumor and you can find me
anywhere on the internet,because I'm the only one Dr
Catherine Harman Tumor on theinternet.
I am the CEO and founder ofHealth, wellness and Weight Loss
Centers and I maximized healthand wellness through weight loss
and then I use a very targetedhealth and wellness measures,
(01:53):
also through weight loss, toimprove people's health and
wellness, and I do this as acoach.
I do that as a consultant andnow as a speaker, and I help
people one on one, I help peoplein a group and recently have
added advocacy to my platebecause, as I've been helping
people through treatment andthrough testing and the like,
(02:17):
there's been a gap that I'mtrying to fill now, and so
advocacy has been added to mylist of things that I do.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
As if you don't do enough already, right.
And after advocacy, there'sgoing to be more.
So it is why I know so I am formyself I'm excited to hear
about the first half of the yearfor you, because we've worked
together for many years at thispoint and there is a kind of
business you want to build andthere's a kind of life you want
(02:47):
to live, right?
I know from working with youthat your time with family or
your time for yourself is almostmore important to you than
whatever revenue goal, right?
So with you, we've always hadto figure out, like how can we
help you build the business youwant without compromising what
your real priorities are, right?
(03:07):
So I want to share briefly,like what you know, what your
priorities are like.
What's your dream month foryour dream first half of the
year, what are those prioritiesand then what has happened in
the first first half of the yearfor you.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
All right.
Well, I think I should give alittle bit of background so it
makes sense.
22 years ago I went intocongestive heart failure a month
after my daughter was born andI was morbidly obese and I had
type two diabetes on insulin.
And that trying to get myhealth together is how I created
the program that I actually usefor my business now.
(03:43):
So I lost 107 pounds.
I used that method now with myclients, with my patients, so
I've and I was told at the timethat I had a 50% chance of
living five years.
So for me, time has always beenthe number one importance, and
time to watch my children growup, because for a good five
(04:03):
years I was scared I would neversee them graduate from
kindergarten and let alonecollege.
And so I always have measuredmy revenue in my family first my
time, second I health, thirdand then financial revenue, and
so that's always been the caseand because of that all of it
has grown.
I have a more time with myfamily, I have more flexibility,
(04:26):
and because of the revenuebecause I don't really chase
revenue it just seems to come tome and allows me then to apply
it to my time and my family, andso that has always been my goal
and everything I've done.
I've always looked for a systemthat allows me that same
flexibility, that same amount oftime.
(04:47):
And what my success has been isthat each year I've been able
to hone my system, hone myproduct, so to speak, into a way
so that I can use it.
Right now I am not at home, I'mactually at my mother's home.
She's 93 years old.
I was able to come here, spenda week and still work, still
(05:08):
have my business run To me.
That is the ultimate in successand, if anything, I've done
that more and more in the lastyear and my revenue has grown
more and more, and I think,partly because my mindset has
been this is what you wanted,this is where you are, and so I
haven't been fighting myself andfighting the process.
And so now I'm, and I'm stillgrowing, things are still coming
(05:32):
at me without even reallytrying now, because I'm in a
good, nice, smooth place where Ican just sit back and allow
myself the peace of being anentrepreneur, because that's
truly what ultimately it is.
You just become, it becomes aplace of peace.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, so I'm going to .
This is the gift.
This is the gift you're givingus.
Right, you had the scaryexperience.
We did it, right, but thatexperience put you in a position
where because whenever you havean experience like that, it's
an opportunity to see life forwhat it is, to put things in
their proper place.
And so the gift you're givingus is, even though we didn't
(06:11):
have that experience, well, ourfamily is something, and I say
this all the time I'm willing tobuild multiple very successful
businesses.
I'm not willing to do it at theexpense of my family, right,
and so the family is a prioritythat we want to keep that up
there.
We want to keep time up there.
We want to keep health up there.
I have the gift of theprivilege of talking with a lot
(06:32):
of people who are older andthey'll say, oh, I wish you the
best of success in your business.
And all of a sudden, andthey're like, all I need is my
health, right, Constantly, all Ineed is my.
And I'm like, If we're, I'mgoing to be saying that I might
as well prioritize that now,right, I don't need to wait till
I'm 90 or whatever, right andso.
And then the revenue and reallywhat you're painting is a
(06:52):
picture of the fact that it'spossible, right?
So in EBS we talk aboutdreaming or building your dream
business and building your dreamlife at the same time.
Right, so you did a post in thegroup.
And to give context to this, inthe entrepreneur business
school we live 90 days at a time, so our year is a 90 day block.
And so July 1st we were likehappy new, happy EBS new year,
(07:13):
right, Because that's what we do.
And so then we share, like thisthese are the wins have
happened, these are the lessonsI've learned.
This is what I'm looking to forthe next 90 day block.
And so you shared.
It was very clear.
I could tell, like a revenuegoal, a time goal, a family goal
, like there.
It was just there.
It's like that's just herpriorities on display.
(07:34):
So talk to us about what those,what those wins were.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well and you're going to laugh because this is me
always I can't tell you exactlyhow much I've grown from last
quarter to this quarter, becauseI always look at the money last
.
I can tell you that from lastyear to this time, there's been
a 220% growth from last year tothis year at this same time.
And so and the only reason Iknow that is because when I
(08:03):
shine into my various platforms,they tell me I don't go looking
for it, I can't avoid it.
So, but what I can tell you isthat the other growth that has
happened I've spent more timehere with my mother this year
than I have ever spent.
I am one of eight children.
It is very rare Anyone from alarge family knows to have your
(08:23):
parent to yourself.
I was with my mother for almosta whole month by myself.
That is so valuable.
I got to hear stories I'd neverheard before.
I got to get insight, herwisdom, her knowledge, and I got
to absorb that.
That is so invaluable I can'teven put a dollar or amount on
that.
But not only was I able to dothat, I continued seeing my
(08:45):
clients, I continued having mymeetings.
I continued all of those thingsbecause I could.
The other growth has been Ilost family members that were
very close to me this year and Imourn I allow myself to mourn
when that happened, and so inallowing myself to do that, I
was able to take time for myself, for my family, for everyone
(09:08):
who needed me emotionally andphysically, so I could be
present.
I wasn't distracted by anythingelse and I had a nice system in
place, a nice team in place whoprotected me, who allowed my
business to continue growing.
Now, mind you, this 200% growthhappened during this time when
I was really distracted andreally preoccupied, but I had
(09:31):
put in the groundwork before,and so I was able to do that.
So trying to put a dollaramount on that is impossible.
It's just too invaluable to puta dollar amount.
But I can tell you the actualdollar amount was 200% more than
last year.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Love it and you had the time with your daughters.
You were all about theirgraduations, like.
So, yeah, like your tank isfamily wise, is like completely
full.
I'm thinking right, like justfrom observing, and you said
something about reducing theactual time you worked by a
third, leveraging your team.
Okay, so let's put this inperspective.
(10:07):
Year over year growth we'retalking about 220%.
In the meantime, more time withfamily Sometimes we're talking
a month long time with familythat you've ever had before.
You worked a third less thanyou typically work, and this is
for the first six months of theyear.
Like how wild is that.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Even just this week.
So what happened?
I wasn't anticipating having tobe here to help my daughters
move.
They're moving in together to anew city and I'm here, and it
happens to be the same citywhere my mother lives.
So what I did was, as soon as Ifound out that week they were
going to need me, that week, Icompletely shut down my schedule
and I didn't cancel anyappointments simply because I
wanted to make sure that thosethat I honored the ones that
(10:51):
were there, but I didn't allowany new ones.
And so I was able to do thatwhile staying in contact with my
team and continuing.
And I checked my revenues.
It's the same because I createda system where it's ongoing, so
that I didn't have to payattention to the little details
every single day, because I knowme as soon as my daughters call
(11:13):
, I drop everything else, and Iwant that.
Some people like that too much.
But as I'm 58 years old now,I'm starting to wind down a
little bit.
I've started to thinking aboutretirement and what we know,
what life's going to look likeoutside of practicing or outside
of medicine completely, and sonow that life has sort of made
(11:34):
me slow down a little, Irealized I can maintain that I
can keep that and not go back towhere I was.
Some of it wasn't intentional,but some of it was just life.
No-transcript.
Happy accidents, life and happyaccidents.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
This is golden because and I think this is also
a pointer like, even if youfeel like you had a difficult,
distracted difference, kind ofquarter or first half of the
year, it's really important tostop and take stock of what
happened, right?
Because what you it all dependson what you focus on, right?
Like you had all these thingshappen, but it didn't change the
(12:16):
fact that your business grew.
It didn't change the fact thatyou work less, which is a
priority for you.
It didn't change the fact thatyou had all this time to spend
with family, and it was kind ofpractice for, like, okay, so if
I were to do this on purpose,what do I need to do to make
this where my business cancontinue to grow?
I can continue to do the thingsthat are important to me, and
(12:36):
it all works.
So, so this is good.
Now I want you to talk a littlebit about some of the things
you think you did that madethese wins possible, and I'm
gonna start off by saying one,which is you've done the work,
you've been doing the work, likeyou have consistently done the
(12:57):
work, and you're coming to thisplace where it's a big snowball
thing.
You just have that Midas touch.
Everything you touch is workingand even when you decide to
slow down, you've done so muchthat the ripple effect just
continues.
That's just my observation.
But what are some of the thingsyou've done that you think are
responsible for thisridiculously amazing first half
of the year, and what are someof the things you stopped?
(13:21):
Because you said some of thatand I was like people need to
know.
So, yeah, tell us all thethings.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, number one, and I'm gonna be very honest, and I
know this might embarrass you,but I really truly followed the
entrant theme of it.
I mean honestly, and not evenall that well, to be honest.
I do my best, but if it gets inthe way of my time and family I
don't do it.
But I have, but for the mostpart I at least try to do some
(13:46):
of it every single day and so,and as a result, that little bit
of inching forward, and Iremember talking to you once and
saying I feel like I'm shuttingdown, just so much is happening
.
I'm getting overwhelmed, but itwas emotional shutdown mostly,
and you said just do a littlebit every day to inch your
business forward, to inchsomething forward.
And so I always use that, evenif it's just 15 minutes of
(14:09):
getting something in, so I couldsay, okay, I accomplished
something today.
And so I've always done that.
And if you add that up over ayear, over two years, it just
pushes you forward.
It may not be as fast as somepeople want, it may not be as
fast even as I wanted, butthat's part of what I did.
I gave myself grace, I followedthe method, I gave myself grace
(14:31):
, I didn't set my expectationsto the point where they were
realistic.
They were higher than before,but I didn't set myself up for
failure, and so and plus, I justdon't see anything as a failure
.
I just say everything islessons.
So my feeling is that I wasn'tsupposed to be here, so anything
(14:52):
that happens is a blessing.
I mean, that's my mindsetalways.
The other thing that I did,though, was that I really looked
at opportunities for what theywere.
I analyzed them.
It's very easy to put our egointo whatever we're offered and
say, ooh, that's something Ishould have, that's something I
should do, that's something andso, but I had to say no to some
(15:15):
things because I knew they weredistractions, I knew they were
getting away they might, partlybecause I knew I'd be good at it
and I knew I'd be successful,but it was going to take me in
the direction, away from myfoundation of the things that I
wanted, particularly because Istarted speaking.
I have speaking opportunities.
Some of those opportunitieswould have taken me somewhere
(15:35):
that, yes, would have fed my ego, yes, would have been nice and
flashy, but they would not havesustained me for the rest of my
life, and so my philosophy isalways if I do it now, I need to
be able to do it when I'm 90.
Otherwise it's not somethingfor me because, like I said, my
mother's 93.
I can very well and veryfunctional.
So at 93, I could very well besitting here having another
(15:58):
talking to someone and I don'twant to have been somewhere else
.
That shut me down physicallybecause it was too much, and so
I often say no to things and toopportunities and then and I'm
very quick to pivot if I'm goingdown a path and I see that path
is taking me somewhere that Ireally didn't want to go, I just
stop and come back and go backto my foundation and so, as you
(16:21):
always say, dr, you know, do thebusiness before the business.
I've done that consistently.
One of the biggest changes Imade over that time was being
visible.
There was a time when Iwouldn't even have done this, I
would not have allowed myself tobe interviewed on video, and
now I do YouTube.
I have I stream to YouTube,instagram and Facebook once a
(16:45):
week at least.
I interview people weekly.
I have a TikTok account, I havea YouTube account, a channel.
I mean all those things that Inever would have even imagined
doing before, and even when I goback and look at my old videos,
they're horrible, but I don'tcare.
I love them because I see thegrowth, I see how it, and so
(17:07):
just I guess, to make a longstory long, just to do the work
in any amount of increments thatyou can and not allow yourself
to be distracted by the shinypennies that are out there
because someone has convincedyou that's what you're supposed
to do.
We have a method.
It really works.
(17:27):
It's now in a book, so you haveno excuse not to find it and
read it.
And really, I mean, it's just,it just works.
And I know you didn't invite mehere to promote your book or to
vote your method, but I am aliving testament to that method.
I started out at zero.
I had a brick and mortar office.
I was shut down during thepandemic.
(17:47):
I pivoted within a week becauseof using your method to get
online, and now my business grew100%, virtually, and now I'm oh
gosh, I think I'm at 2000%,where I was when I started, or
more, I can't even, to be honest, I don't know, because the
first three months was 600% andnow, from last year, it's been
(18:09):
200% and I've been in businessnow for six years.
So I'll have to go and do themath, because right now I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
You do have to go do the math, okay, but I do want to
thank you.
That is such a beautifulbreakdown.
It makes me.
I have questions for you, butfor everyone listening though I
hope you pick this up the word Iwould use to describe the bulk
of what you said isintentionality, right,
intentionality.
So, yes, I cannot work on allthe things, but these high level
(18:39):
things that I can work on,consistently right, and that
will bring this.
Yes, I can have this shinyobject.
If it's not taking me where I'mintending to go to, anyway, I'm
going to say no to it.
It's a distraction that isdisguised as an opportunity,
right, and it's allintentionality.
So I want you to talk a littlebit about saying no to
(19:01):
opportunities, because I cannottell you how many entrepreneurs
that I've seen.
They were going in onedirection.
I took two shiny objects andnow they don't have a business,
right, because they were justtoo distracted to make anything
grow.
So talk about saying no toopportunities.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
So what I often do first is, if an opportunity
comes my way, my first questionis would I have sought that out
had it not come to me?
And if the answer is yes, thenI'm like okay, then I'll sit
with it and I'll look at it andsee it for what it is.
If the answer is no, I say no.
I mean if it was something?
And it's not one of thosethings where, oh, my imagination
was too small and I didn'tthink of it.
(19:41):
No, that means that someoneelse's idea of what I should do,
that's someone else's dream.
How am I their product?
Because that's often the case,especially with physicians we
often become the product forother people.
And so when they start showingme things, my first thought am I
the product?
We're not, and often they'remaking their money off of my
(20:04):
intellectual property.
They're making their money offof my time and using me to do
that, even though, yes, I'll bethe face, yes, I'll be out there
and I'll be getting theattention.
But ultimately they are theones who are gaining.
And so that's my first thing Ilook to see who benefits the
most financially from thisopportunity.
And if it's not me not sayingI'm greedy, but if it's someone
(20:27):
else using me for that, I say no.
The other thing that I do whenlooking and if it's something
that says yes, it is something Iwould have pursued I look at my
plan.
Was this part of my six monthplan, my one year plan, my five
year 10 year plan?
If it was part of my 10 yearplan, is it something?
If I pull it forward, is itgoing to not knock out some of
(20:48):
my six month plan?
Because my six month plans wereput in place when I was level
headed and not distracted and myego was set aside, and so I've
laid out that plan when I wasbeing objective.
So when the shiny object comes,is it going to knock any of
those things out of the way?
And if the answer is yes, andit's too many of those things,
(21:11):
then of course, then I say no.
If it's something that I couldflop in, jump right back, then I
may say yes.
If I say yes, I always look athow much time is it going to
take how much of my revenue myhealth revenue, my time revenue,
my financial revenue is itgoing to cost me money to do it?
Is it going to cost me time?
Is it going to cost time for myfamily, or is it something that
(21:35):
I can pull my family in?
Are you asking me to comesomeplace that I can turn this
into a vacation and spend withmy family?
If the answer is yes, then Idon't care if it costs me money,
because now I get that revenueback with their time and their
experiences.
And so I just put all I justthink about things really
logically, really objectively,and I make sure that I write
(21:59):
down things, because it's veryeasy to forget what you wanted a
year from now.
When something bright isshining in your face, you can't
see.
I mean, it's like anything.
If you're sitting in the darkand someone shines a light in
your face, suddenly you can'tsee anything else but that light
, and so you may.
If you haven't written downstuff, you forget what's behind
(22:20):
the light, and so you've got tohave it written down and to
remind yourself constantly whatit was you truly wanted when you
were sane and calm andobjective.
And so that's how I choose, andso with each incident it's
different.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, I didn't see that coming.
That was so good.
I was like these answers.
I was like, oh, I have to getmy team to edit this out.
Like how, the three stepformula to get rid of shiny
object syndrome forever this wasso good.
Okay, thank you for sharingthat.
That was so good.
Oh, my goodness, I didn't seethat coming.
(22:55):
That was good, okay.
So now you are, you're in theEntremde Business School
community.
You've been there for a while,and I always ask this because
it's almost impossible toexplain to somebody outside of
the school what the school islike.
Right, and so not everybody,but there's somebody here who's
watching, who's like I am aphysician.
(23:16):
I am committed to building asuccessful business.
I'm not willing to give up myfamily or my lifestyle to do it,
and all of that.
What would you say to thatperson?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Well, one of the things that the business school
has done is giving me hugeshortcuts.
Instead of having to look foranswers myself, instead of
having to go through trial anderror, I have a whole community
of trial and errors to ask.
It's like, instead of sayingokay, and not only just the
trial and error, the trial anderrors and the nuances of the
(23:46):
situation so I have someone say,yeah, I did that, but my
business is XYZ.
Yeah, but my business is XYZ,and I did the exact same thing
and got the exact same result.
I'm like, okay, it's the system, it's not the business.
So I have that.
You have all that, just hugeamounts of information, and huge
not only just information onfrom a revenue standpoint or
(24:09):
process standpoint, butemotional standpoint, physical
standpoint, people at differentlevels of their life.
I have MNFD Nestor.
There are people who have smallchildren.
Their lives are going to bevery different and so, but if
you have someone who has threesmall children and they've
created a system that works forthem, imagine how much bigger
(24:29):
that system is going to work forme when I don't have children
around.
So I look at all of that and sothat's the community that I
just that's information.
That's again invaluable, that Iwould not have access to
otherwise, because in medicine,we've often been taught to be
competitive and I personallythink it's a divide and conquer
method, but that's another story.
(24:50):
So we've been sort of taught tocompete with one another, that
there's only a certain amount ina pie and only a certain amount
for each of us, and so if youtake yours, hold on to it and
don't share it with anybody else, One of the things that EBS has
done is it's made it very clearthat's a lie.
There is more than enough foreverybody, and the more you
(25:11):
share, the more of the pie youget, and so and that environment
is and I've said this beforewhat EBS has been for me is like
okay, I'm going to go out onfaith, I'm going to go and just
jump off a cliff, and I knowthere's a nice pillow of people
there ready to catch me if Ifall, If I don't soar which I
(25:32):
usually do and which most of usdo and even if we don't soar
right away, even if we're justkind of coasting and where
there's a lot of wind from thegroup to push you up under your
wings, that you start to fly,and even if you start to sink
again, that wind comes and justpushes you up.
All you have to do is ask, andthere is hundreds of people, and
not even just people who are inEBS now, prior EBS members, who
(25:56):
are still in contact with me,people who are thinking about
joining EBS.
It's like this community ofsharing that is just too
invaluable to describe, really,but what it truly is?
Just having a backup plan,multiple backup plans and not
even backup plans, just peopleat your back?
I mean that's I don't know howelse to describe it.
(26:18):
I hope that doesn't justice,but I don't think it did.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It's a backup plan, it's people at your back.
I mean, thank you for sharingthat.
And I do want to say thank youfor sharing, because you're an
invaluable part of the community.
Right, you could have kept yourwins, you could have not shared
it.
You could have said, well, Ihave stuff going up, I don't
have time for this, but I thinkfor this quarter, you were
actually the first person to doyour post.
(26:43):
You did it even before I didthe post.
Like, it's time for IQ2Review,right, and so that's a testament
to the kind of sharing.
Right, you're sharing the wins,you're sharing the lessons,
you're sharing all of that andit's such a gift to everybody.
And here you are sharing itwith the entire physician
community.
So thank you for doing that.
And, of course, anybody who'son here and you're like I want
to know more about the school, Iwant to be part of these people
(27:05):
.
You can go turn in anapplication on trendycom.
I'll be happy to have thatconversation with you.
Dr Tuma, where do people findyou?
So, people are listening outhere and I'm going to say this
okay, if someone comes on hereto share their story, to take
you behind the scenes, to sharethe good, the bad the ugly.
The least we can do is supportthem and as physicians, we need
(27:26):
so many examples of what ispossible.
That is what is required for usto have the big shift we need
in the physician community.
So anything you can do tosupport another physician
entrepreneur, do it right.
This is how we make everythingdifferent for everybody.
So what is a good referral foryou?
So who do you take care of andwhere can people send people to
(27:47):
or where can they go?
Follow you on TikTok andsupport what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, a good referral for me is anyone who feels like
they're at the end of theirrope.
Either they just can't seem toget on top of their health,
their wellness, or they'restruggling with weight loss and
they're about to give up, orthey've just been told they've
just been shamed to the pointwhere they shut down, which is
where I was.
Both people send them to me andeven if I can't help them or
(28:13):
they can't utilize my services,I will find somebody who can.
I have a database of everyonewho does what I do so that I can
find someone for them.
The other is anyone who needsspeakers, who needs someone who
wants motivation.
I've done TED Talks.
I've done a lot of corporatespeaking on wellness.
I'll be speaking next week at anational conference.
(28:34):
Anyone who just wants speakerson health, wellness and posture
syndrome, anything that justsort of fits into the whole
person.
I'm your girl.
If you find that there issomeone who's having difficulty
navigating the medical system, Idon't help necessarily with
that, but I didn't have adatabase of people who are
(28:55):
willing to step in and help,because there is a huge gap in
the has and the have nots in ourmedical community.
Anyone who is having strugglingin any way, we'll help, we'll
find a way, but mostly you canfind me at DrTumorcom, that's
D-R-T-O-M-E-Rcom.
(29:16):
From there you can just sort offind me everywhere else YouTube
, instagram, Facebook, tiktokand email text message she is
visible.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
She told you she was working on her visibility.
She is visible.
To think that in the beginningyou're like I'm not doing a
video here, you are everywhere.
It is just so beautiful to see.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I was not only did I, it was me out with a one-woman
show.
I wouldn't hire anyone becauseI didn't want to interact with
anyone.
Now, here I am with a team andall these lives and videos and
all the rest is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
It's amazing.
Again, it's a testament to thework you've done and your
willingness to do what wasuncomfortable.
Building a team wasuncomfortable when you started
building a team.
Delegating to the team wasuncomfortable.
Doing the videos wasuncomfortable.
It was all uncomfortable.
But you're like okay, I'll justdo a little bit of it and
that's all it takes you can doit messy yeah do it messy.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
But here we are.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I want to say big congratulations to you, and you
know how we are.
This second half is your besthalf, yet that's the way we roll
in EBS.
There's even more of thiscoming for you.
Thank you so much for sharingyour story, sharing your wisdom
Such a gift we have peoplewatching live right now on
YouTube.
In the comments, shout her outso she'll go look at the
(30:48):
comments and know that her storytouched you.
Let her know how her storyimpacted you.
Thank you for doing that.
Thank you for being aninvaluable part of the AndreMD
community To everybody watching.
We'll see you same time nextweek with more stories from
inside the AndreMD BusinessSchool.
Hey, if you love listening tothe AndreMD podcast, I want to
(31:12):
invite you to join AndreMD OnDemand.
It is my signature subscriptionprogram that gives you access
to a library of business coursesdesigned to help you do one
thing as a physicianentrepreneur, and that is to
thrive.
So head out to AndreMDcom,forward slash on demand and I'd
love to have you join us.
See you on the inside.
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.