March 19, 2024 • 61 mins
I interview Dr. Dean Helen Williams, Pepperdine University Graduate School of Education and Psychology. In an upfront and candid conversation, we explore the difference in our experiences as academics, leaders, and human beings. Dean Williams' perspective as a black woman, academic, and leader on everything going on in America, and how to most effectively move forward and make change, is a conversation you will not want to miss.
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