November 6, 2025 • 44 mins
What happens when a body that’s always pushed finally says no?
In this inspiring and deeply human conversation, intuitive healer and soul guide Louise Young shares her powerful journey from M.E. and chronic fatigue syndrome to full-body and soul-level awakening. Her story of healing, surrender, and spiritual growth reveals how illness can become a teacher — guiding us back to presence, intuition, and the wisdom of the body.
From hiding symptoms in a high-pressure career to becoming bedbound for years, Louise opens up about the pain of denial, the courage to rest, and the miracle of rediscovering life through meditation, and energy healing. A profound out-of-body experience became the turning point — reframing her identity beyond illness and awakening her connection to her higher self and spiritual guide.
Together we explore:
✨ How to tell intuition from anxiety
✨ Why pacing beats pushing in healing and life
✨ The real meaning of self-love and sovereignty
✨ How gratitude and presence transformed a simple walk at RHS Wisley into a moment of freedom after years in a wheelchair
This episode offers grounded, practical insight into recovery, energy work, and conscious living — without the hype. Whether you’re on a healing journey, curious about intuitive development, or seeking hope beyond limitation, Louise’s story reminds us that true healing begins with listening within.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
In this episode, I'm joined by Louise Young, a soul
reader and healer who's healedherself from chronic fatigue and
now helps others reconnect withher own energy and intuition.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
Another time.
SPEAKER_01 (00:17):
Hello and welcome to the James Grantstrom Podcast
Super Soul Model Series.
This week we are joined by myold neighbour, Louise Young.
Now, Louise is an intuitivehealer and soul guide.
Louise's journey began in hertwenties when she faced a very
long, severe battle with Emmyand chronic fatigue.
Through her experience, shelearned self-love, deep
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acceptance, and awakened herconnection to spirit.
And this strengthened herrelationship with herself as
well.
A spontaneous out-of-bodyexperience came later where she
began to be aware of herself aspure consciousness, and this
confirmed her path.
Today Louise works with her teamin spirit and guiding and
empowering clients to heal, toreconnect and remember who they
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are really are.
Welcome to the show, Louise.
SPEAKER_02 (01:03):
Hi James.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm very excited to be here.
SPEAKER_01 (01:08):
It's so funny that we can grow up together when we
were, I don't know, well, I wasabout five or six or something
like that.
You were across the road withJessica and me and my sisters,
and here we are years later, andwe're talking about something
that perhaps we didn't even knowabout as kids, or at least it
was unconscious at the time.
But then when we go through ourown journey and we go through
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challenges and suffering and wefind our way again, it's so
funny that our paths have metand looped again.
And so I just wanted to say,isn't it amazing how sometimes
without you even knowing, lifehas always put you in the
perfect place and that we're allconnected.
SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
Absolutely.
And I I think that's beautiful.
Thank you for that.
Because I often say to myclients as well, we are always
in the right place at the righttime.
And it's just to trust thatpath.
And I guess it's a case of sortof surrendering and accepting to
where we are right now.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Yeah, but often it's strange though, because anyone
listening, we've all gone, we'realways going through some sort
of challenge.
There's always something lurkingin the background.
But like it's it's quite unusualto think, oh, we were in the
right place, because sometimesit really doesn't feel like
you're in the right place.
But if zoom back out from ourchildhood, you know, here we are
again after I've had myexperiences and challenges, and
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you've had your experiences, andhere we are trying to share the
story that everything's okay,regardless of how things may
seem.
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Absolutely, yes.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (02:42):
So would you be kind enough to draw us back to your
personal story, right back tothe beginning?
Because when I introduced you,we talked about you you suffered
from severe chronic fatigue andME, and what that path brought
to you.
How did it all happen and howdid this healing journey all
begin?
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
So, James, I I think probably like yourself and maybe
many that are watching this umpodcast, as a child, um, I was a
very sensitive child.
I always felt that there wasmore than just this physical
body.
Um, I had various challengeswhen I was a child.
Um, and you probably knowyourself, when I moved to
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Cobbham, I was very badlybullied for a few years.
Um, and school was quitedifficult for me as well.
I had um undiagnosed dyslexia aswell.
So I think all of this led to afeeling of a lack of self-love,
a lack of self-worth.
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And that just compounded as Iwent into my teens.
I had an eating disorder, I hadthen I sort of that led on to a
couple of very difficultrelationships.
And moving forward into my late20s, I actually went, um, I sort
of threw everything in, decidedthat that's enough.
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I'm gonna go backpacking toAustralia and New Zealand.
And I was not in a good physicalstate at the time or mental
state.
And I think looking back, Irealized that there was a really
severe lack of self-love, ofself-esteem, of a complete
disconnection to who I was.
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And I touched on the spiritualside a bit in my early 20s when
I'd suffered some panic attacks,but then I kind of lost my way
again, and like many, it all gotrather hedonistic in the 20s.
And then I went backpacking andI caught um just the most awful,
awful virus, and gradually myhealth went down and down, but
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still I wasn't listening.
I wasn't listening to myself,whether you want to call out
listening to my intuition, myhigher self, my gut feeling.
And I just pushed and pushedthrough until I basically
collapsed.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
I collapse.
So was this whilst you were inAustralia?
SPEAKER_02 (05:08):
I was collapsing when I was out there.
I I was still in this greatsense of denial.
I can cover this up by um bydoing things, by parting, by
drinking.
Um, but I knew that therewasn't, there was something very
wrong with me.
I started developing awfulheadaches, dizzy spells,
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weakness.
And eventually I did come homeafter about kind of five or six
months, where it literally gotto the stage where I thought,
I'm now really getting quiteconcerned about myself.
SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:46):
And then I came home.
But it's amazing, James, and Iknow you'll understand this
yourself as many will, how muchwe can be in self-denial.
And and I I think this is reallykey.
We can be really falling apartand sometimes in a great uh
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place of self-sabotage, but noteven realizing it.
And I think that was very muchpart of my journey and part of
my learning.
SPEAKER_01 (06:18):
It's really interesting because I remember
in my case with the drinking, Iwas like, I didn't know what I
was doing.
That was what my friends and Idid.
That was kind of like what theculture was.
I didn't know any different.
So, what happened to you?
So, when did the ME begin andthe chronic fatigue?
SPEAKER_02 (06:34):
I came home and I was still in that state of push,
push, push.
I felt I needed to prove myself.
I'd come home, I'd beentraveling, I got um a really
good job in marketing.
This was a big career break forme.
I was really excited about it,but deep down again, I knew
something wasn't right.
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But I took the job, and that wasin um in the summer of 2000, and
it was very, very stressful, butI pushed through, I worked
really, really long hours, um,and eventually my body just
began to break down.
I think there's no other reallyway of saying it.
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I I and I was masking it.
So, so basically, people wouldbe saying, Um, oh, do you want
to come out for lunchtime andwe'll walk, you know, we'll walk
into Kingston, that's where itwas at the time.
And I would say, Oh no, I'mgonna finish off this work.
What I was actually doing is Iwas going to the bathroom and
lying down and like hiding in acubicle.
SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
So is it that you felt you needed to hide?
SPEAKER_02 (07:41):
I I suppose, James, it's a fear of being judged, I
suppose.
That that's that's a big thingas well.
A fear of being judged, of notbeing understood, of I suppose
letting the balls drop.
You know, I felt I'd had I hadthis great job, I had to hold it
together, um, otherwise I wouldbe a failure.
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My my family, my parents wouldthink I was a failure.
But interestingly, I think myparents, particularly my mum,
she knew that something wasn'tright.
Yeah.
And she was quite worried.
SPEAKER_01 (08:14):
So there's the you know, there's the the intuition
coming through through mum.
Yes.
She, you know, like I alwayslike to think that the female is
the oracle and the man is thesafety or the provider.
And I think that in intuitivelyyour mum knew, but and and
intuitively you knew, but youjust probably didn't have the
tools or knew what to do.
SPEAKER_02 (08:35):
Exactly.
I I was completely shut down tothat.
And um, as things progressedover the next few months, my I
kind of was started to lose theability to to kind of I was to
say even walk.
It was that serious.
You know, I would I would workall day and then I would I would
go back home, which was only 10minutes away.
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Sometimes I would drive becauseI was so weak, and then I would
just go to bed.
Go to bed, and then I would stayin bed, and then I'd get up the
next day and go back to work anddo the same thing all over
again, until it got to the pointwhere I thought I can't do this
anymore.
I just can't do this.
(09:16):
So I said to my boss, um, do youknow I'm not feeling great?
I know I might have a bit of theflu.
I'm gonna take um a long weekendand I'm gonna go back to my
parents because I had a flatlocally.
So I went back to my parents.
I went to bed and I basicallydidn't really get up for two
years.
SPEAKER_01 (09:36):
Oh, wow.
Yeah, okay.
And there's the you know, thereit is.
And do you know when you werediagnosed?
Were you diagnosed during thattime?
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
Or well, yes, well, I went to bed, and that and that
really was the beginning of meletting go because I've been
holding on for so tight, theadrenaline had been going, my
mind had been going, push, push,push.
So I let go, and my body justwas like, finally, finally,
(10:05):
she's listening.
Yeah, and within those twoweeks, I went downhill to the
point where I couldn't get outof bed, I couldn't feed myself,
I couldn't get to the bathroom.
I thought I was gonna die.
I thought if I've gone downhillthis much in two weeks, the next
step is that I'm not gonna havethe energy to breathe.
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And this is it, it's game over.
This is it.
I I literally thought I wasgonna die at that stage.
SPEAKER_01 (10:32):
It's it's uh, you know, I've got a lot of
compassion listening to a storybecause not a lot of people
would understand chronic fatigueor ME.
You know, they may hear it oneor two people may have had it.
How how how many people actuallyhave it, let's say, for
instance, in the UK?
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
I think it was about a quarter of a million people.
SPEAKER_01 (10:49):
It's it's a lot, it's a lot of people, more than
more people than you think,right?
SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
It's a lot, and a lot of people don't realize they
have it, or they or everythingis is is that sort of on a
continuum.
Everything, so it may be thatsomeone doesn't have it
severely, but they have itmildly, which is actually
probably even worse because inmy journey, I have met hundreds
and like thousands of peoplewith ME over the years, and many
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people who have it mildly arestill pushing through, you know,
trying to hold down a job, afamily.
Um, and I think in a way, I'mquite grateful that my what
happened to me was sospectacularly awful that I I was
taken seriously and I was takeninto hospital, Epsom Hospital,
and I was very, very lucky.
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I got diagnosed by animmunologist who basically said,
Oh, I've seen people like thisbefore.
I think you've got Emmy.
I'd known one person before withEmmy, and for me, I thought, oh
well, I've got ME, that's it.
You never recover with Emmy.
And I was in hospital and yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
So thank you for sharing.
Um I guess the next part of yourjourney is really interesting
now, because then comes thehealing.
unknown (12:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
So could you talk us through the healing journey of
you, going through thisexperience?
Because you thought to yourself,I'm never gonna heal again.
But I bet there was a part ofyou that was saying, That's not
true.
SPEAKER_02 (12:19):
Yes.
Once I got out of hospital,which was a very grim experience
being in hospital, but once Igot out, I remember thinking to
myself, Well, I've always been aspiritual being, and I'm gonna
use this time now to connectback with that, and it and I
felt quite quickly, I actuallyfelt that it had been a gift.
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That's a gift.
SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
That's that's magic because you often go through
trials and extreme challenges.
Sometimes it's death, health.
I don't know.
I want to understand yourmindset about this.
SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
I honestly think, James, that I think on a very,
very deep soul level, obviouslyI'm a spiritual person.
I believe we we are, you know,we are souls having a human
experience.
And I think at that stage, I hada beginning really of an
awakening.
I knew that this had to happento me to put me on my path of
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being a healer, of being ahealer, and I and I just felt
that at a very, very deep level.
And and I'm not saying it waseasy, it wasn't easy.
There was still, you know, manydays of darkness.
It was really, you know, forcertainly for the first year,
felt like a huge dark night ofthe soul.
(13:35):
Um, and I got slowly, slightlybetter, um, rebuilding my
relationship with my parents.
That was really a major part ofit, and with myself.
Because I realized that actuallyI had actually hated myself.
I had no self-love at all.
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I couldn't look in the mirror, Icouldn't look at a photo without
thinking I'm worthless, I'm notI'm nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
Um that couldn't be further from the truth, right?
That couldn't be further fromthe truth.
Yes, somehow we get programmedor exposure to life or even our
environment might tell usotherwise.
And somehow, if we're verysensitive and young, you just
accept that that might be true,even though it is absolutely and
actually to add a little bit oflightness to this conversation,
(14:25):
yeah, because you know it'squite it is heavy, but I guess
there is a big bounce, you know,and that's where we're getting
to, that's where we're we'realluding to with this
conversation.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
And it's really interesting because during that
period, I remember you movedhome to your parents, so then
you were across the road.
SPEAKER_01 (14:41):
Yeah, I did.
I started modelling, and I'mlike, yeah, I uh yeah.
And I only moved back for alittle bit, but we okay, yeah.
Carol.
SPEAKER_02 (14:50):
I feel you were very much on your health journey at
the time.
SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:53):
I remember you coming over and talking to me
about a few kind of healthproducts that you were into at
the time.
And I just remember thinking,oh, this is really nice to
reconnect with James, and he'sobviously really into health as
well.
SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
Yeah, my my my journey to my awakening actually
began through health.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:13):
And it was first the gym, and then secondly, when I
understood that there had to bea mind-body connection, I
thought, well, I don't know muchabout the mind.
So don't let me understandnutrition first before
understanding how the mind worksand what happens if we're able
to still the mind and how thatkeeps you well.
So I I I'm I probably was aroundthere when when I was across the
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room.
SPEAKER_02 (15:35):
But which is not dissimilar to where I was,
because even though I was inthat place of meditating, and
that's very key that I'll comeback to in a minute.
Yeah, I was also I got to thepoint where I thought, right,
well, I've done the whole officemarketing thing.
That's not me, it's never feltlike me.
I want to learn about holistichealth.
So I embarked on what was backin those days the good old
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correspondence course.
Okay, learning about um anatomy,physiology, nutrition, um, bit
of counseling.
So I'd started to embark on thatcourse.
So I was really like, this iswhat I want to do, and I'm going
to use this opportunity tolearn.
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Finally, I have the chance nowto learn.
And and it wasn't easy because Iwas a resting for a lot of the
time.
A lot of the time I was in avery meditative state, you know,
and and a lot of the time Iwasn't actually really aware of
um, because my circadian rhythmwas totally out.
SPEAKER_01 (16:41):
Because you're probably sleeping all day, is
that right?
SPEAKER_02 (16:43):
Yeah, sleeping a lot and then awake a lot at night.
Sometimes it I would be almostlike, I'm not even sure whether
this is night or day.
It was I was in a very, verylucid state, and I was
meditating a lot.
And then again, back in thosedays, which was again around
what 2000 to 2002, um, it wasjust a case of you put you
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popped on a tape or a CD, youput some ambient music on, and
you went off and you meditated.
There was none of what we havethese days.
Um, so that was what I basicallydid for many, many hours a day.
SPEAKER_01 (17:23):
There's something that was really important that
happened to you.
Uh it happened in your bedroom,and you had an out-of-body
experience.
SPEAKER_02 (17:33):
I did.
So there I was um feeling very,very unwell.
And this was a few years into myjourney, and and Emmy is very
much about relapses andremissions, and I would step
forward a bit and then I wouldcome back, and it was all very
frustrating.
But this was in a time of arelapse.
So I was um in bed, I was, I wasprobably meditating or resting,
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I can't even remember.
But the next thing I knew, I wasjust, I can only describe it as
I was an orb of light justfloating around my ceiling.
And I was, how I believe, in myum in my soul consciousness.
So we've heard many people talkabout having astral travel,
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being in their light bodies,seeing themselves kind of as a
body, but being able to kind ofwalk through walls and that sort
of thing.
Whereas I was very much this orbshape, and but I felt like I was
me.
I was me, I and I was totallyfearless, totally peaceful, and
I felt totally free.
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I stayed within my room.
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
Could you look at the body when you when you went
down?
SPEAKER_02 (18:45):
No, I didn't, James.
And I know we hear about this alot about doing that, but I
didn't.
What I do remember thinking is Iremember thinking, oh, I'm gonna
go and look out my window now.
This was a big deal because Iwas in my bed, not well.
At the time.
SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
And even getting up was a major.
SPEAKER_02 (19:02):
Yeah, getting up needed assistance from my
mother.
So I floated over to mywindowsill, and I remember
looking at my things I had on mywindowsill, thinking, this is
nice looking out at the window,looking across the road,
probably seeing your house.
SPEAKER_00 (19:19):
Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:21):
And and thinking, oh, you know, this is really
nice.
I feel really peaceful, I'm justfloating around.
Um, again, all I can say is Ifelt peace, total peace, total
freedom, and but the next thingI knew, I was back in my body
again.
SPEAKER_01 (19:41):
That is an amazing experience.
SPEAKER_00 (19:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:44):
But my question that is that strikes me is how much
of a big deal was that to yougiven that you were bedbound?
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
Well, the incredible thing is, James, is that I don't
think I really properlyconnected to that having that
experience until quite a fewyears later.
SPEAKER_01 (20:06):
Wow, how come?
SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
I know it it seems and it seems totally bizarre to
me because now I look back and Ithink that was a gift.
That was a gift to me to say I'mon the path, and um, and a gift
to help me understand the natureof us as being soul beings.
SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
Yeah, that was bigger than our body, yeah, more
completely.
SPEAKER_02 (20:30):
Yeah, and I was obviously in this great state of
fear, I was fearful of being inmy body, my body had let me
down, or perhaps I had let downmy body, yeah, that as well.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
That's a very interesting way to look at it.
I'm I'm always thinking of thepeople listening or people
watching, you know, they may notunderstand your individual
experience, but if you're notable to do something, it you're
really physically incapacitatedlike you were for for many
years, yeah, it's a big deal tofeel peace.
SPEAKER_02 (21:08):
Yes, it is, and I think that's where the
meditation came in, because Iwould be in my mind a lot, and
that's what would give me peace.
When I say in my mind, I wouldbe doing imagining in the
meditation that I was dancing, Iwas walking on the beach, which
I loved, I was desperatelymissing being on a beach.
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And I little did I know that Iwas waking up what you call your
psychic senses.
So I was waking up my um, youwant to call it pineogram, third
eye, intuition, through yearsand years of these imaginative
guided meditations where I wasguiding myself, and that was my
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place of peace.
Because when I was doing that, Ididn't have to connect with the
profound fatigue and pain.
I was in a lot of physical painas well.
SPEAKER_01 (22:02):
It's funny that pain causes us to become so present,
doesn't it?
Yes, and I think that thisblends quite nicely into the
next part of your story that youneeded to begin to listen.
Yes.
And then as you began to listen,what was happening next in
Louisa's experience?
SPEAKER_02 (22:22):
Well, I gradually began to improve um my health
and start to um do a bit more inlife, just go out a little bit
more.
At first, it was in awheelchair, um, a walking stick
as well, which again I felt verythink at first it felt quite
embarrassing there.
I was in my early 30s.
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I was walking with a walkingstick.
Walking stick, and um, you know,where we lived was quite hilly
as well, so you know, but thatwas all um it was all sort of
part of me beginning to get alittle bit physically stronger.
Um so I began to in improve, butagain, it was relapses and
remissions.
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But my learning was not to goback to be the hedonistic and
person that I was who didn'tlove myself, and every time I
felt that I was slipping backinto being that person, I felt
that my health would get worse.
It was like I was put back onthe path every time, put back on
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the path, put back on the path.
And this has been the journey,really, for about the last 25
years that I feel like if I'mnot being true to myself, if I'm
not listening to myself, beingkind to myself, something
happens to put me back on thatpath again.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
Yeah, I like I like that.
It's almost the same.
No, you're not having that,you're not having that get back
on the path.
Yes, yes.
In truth, it's reallyinteresting that everybody's on
their own path, and you can'treally go wrong.
And if you do, you get put backon the path, whatever,
whatever's going on in yourlife.
SPEAKER_00 (24:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
And I'm fascinated about what happens to you next
because as you went on yourpath, you began listening to
your guides.
SPEAKER_02 (24:13):
Absolutely.
So, so really to sort of to cuta long story short, I got um, I
met a wonderful man who I'mstill with.
We're married.
Thank you.
We we are we have a hometogether, and um, I got to the
point where I was well enough tostart to work, and of course,
what I wanted to do was to setup a healing practice that was
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to definitely um help to helpother people with what I had
learned as well.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
And can I can I just like I just fascinated that that
is a beautiful transmutation ofeverything that you've gone
through for such a long periodof time, just going, what if
what I've learned along the waycould help other people?
Yeah, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
It feels such a gift to be able to do what what I do,
it really does.
And and I feel so strongly thatthis is what I was meant to do
in this lifetime, and I had togo through what I went through
to get to where I am now becausewhen I work with clients, um I
hear their stories and I canshow that compassion and that
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empathy because I know what it'slike to be in a very dark place
for a long time.
So so I trained in variousholistic therapies and
nutrition, and I started off inthat place with my practice, but
then um I was beginning to feellike there's more to this.
I I feel um like I want to learna bit more about energy, about
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about healing, and I did varioushealing modalities, and that was
really what I think began tohugely awaken me.
And like yourself, I had been ona mission to read every single
spiritual book I'd get my handson to.
I know we both read umConversations with God, didn't
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we?
SPEAKER_01 (26:08):
That was actually the first book my friend who's
no longer with us anymore, butthat was I got that book in the
year 2000, and yeah, that was Idevoured that book in one day,
and then followed a couple ofother thousand books, but
business as well as spiritualityand health, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:25):
Yes, I think as well, that was the the first
series of books I really startedwith as well.
And then again, I mean, booksand books and books, and just um
almost like insatiable appetite,you know, like yourself.
I just wanted to know more.
I wanted to know more.
And I've been doing yoga for along time.
I had touched on a little bit ofgoing to yoga retreats and doing
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meditation on the retreat.
So I'd already been on that pathfor quite a long time.
So I started the uh the healing,and um, it was a case of coming
into this place of trust.
So I started to build up a bitof a client base, and I remember
one day I was working withsomebody, and I placed my hands
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around her head, and I just waslike, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And I started to feel energy,and I remember that clearly.
That was the first time Istarted to feel energy, so and I
felt I feel energy now in verydifferent ways with different
people, yeah.
And then that moved on tostarting to hear my main guide
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who was working with me.
SPEAKER_01 (27:37):
So again, a very quite how what an unusual path,
right?
From chronic fatigue, em me,meditation, you know, dabbling,
an out-of-body experience, andjust going, look, what's up with
me?
to going, I really want totransmute this into something
good, and then boom, anotherupgrade.
I mean, from somebody who usedto live across the road from me,
(27:59):
this is not uh a usual path.
But then again, I'd love to saythis none of us has a usual
path.
We don't know what's gonnahappen.
SPEAKER_02 (28:07):
Exactly, exactly.
Um, so there I was doing doingthe healing, and I became aware
that there was a voice.
It was a man's voice on my righthand side, and through my
peripheral vision, I could see aum I could see a man, an elderly
man in a white coat.
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He looked like a doctor.
Now, when I say my peripheralvision, this was in my my third
eye.
So when I heal, I'm mostlyhealing with my eyes shut.
So I'm in the very deep thetastate.
And you know, for your audiencewho are wondering, well, how on
earth do you do you get to thatstate?
It's practice, practice,practice, practice.
SPEAKER_01 (28:47):
Developing a muscle like anything.
SPEAKER_02 (28:49):
It is, it's it's practice, practice.
So I'd sat in meditation formany years, but also with the
healing, it was coming into thatbreath, yeah, coming into that
completely present moment.
Um, and this went on, James, forabout six months.
I was hearing this man's voice,and eventually I thought I
really need to know more aboutwhat's going on because this man
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was training me.
He was saying, Go here, touchthe feet, hold over the heart,
hold the head, feel the energy.
What can you feel?
Lift that away, work withcolour.
Um, he was instructing me, andeventually I saw I was very,
very lucky.
An incredible um soul mediumcame into my life.
(29:33):
Again, no luck, it wasabsolutely meant to be.
And I went to see her and Isaid, This is what's been going
on.
And she said, before I even saidit, she said, You're working
with a doctor guide, I can seehim.
And I was like, that's literallyabout what I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_01 (29:49):
Isn't it fascinating that even though we can't see
things with our physical eyes,yeah, there are things that we
can feel or pick up.
And if you've ever done Anyplant medicine, you will see
visuals, not that I've donethem, but this is what I hear
from a lot of people.
Um, I don't necessarily haveseen anything, but I feel things
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around me, and that's a reallybeautiful experience in my case
because it's always somethingbenevolent that I feel around
me.
That's usually because I'm in agood vibe.
But if you're not in a goodvibe, you know, you could get
the movies.
But you know, I always try anddiscipline myself to give myself
the best possible start to be ina good vibe.
That's why I call it the greenlights.
You see more green lights inlife.
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So, in your experience, you weregetting the green lights of keep
doing this healing work, thiscould help a lot of people.
And you were guided to the thelady, the soul media who told
you about the doctor.
So, what happened next?
SPEAKER_02 (30:45):
Well, she basically gave me a lot of confidence.
She said, I see you're workingwith this doctor guide.
And this was all rather funnybecause during my time of being
unwell, I'd actually done ahealth science and biology
degree with the Open Yumi.
And I thought I was going to endup doing something like nursing.
So I had the joke that alwaysmakes me laugh is I thought I
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would be working with doctors inhuman form.
I didn't realise I'd be workingwith doctor in spirit.
SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
It's so funny, isn't it?
And you know, if you believe inangels, which I do because you
know my life is a miracle,there's no way I should have got
out of that car accident.
What I'm fascinated with is ifyou can't see it, it doesn't
mean it it's not there.
SPEAKER_00 (31:29):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (31:30):
And I believe we all have guardian angels and we all
have guides, but to get to thatfeeling or get to that knowing
within you is your own journey.
And and it's not forced uponyou, it just suddenly happens
like a door opens and suddenlyyou open.
SPEAKER_02 (31:45):
And that's what it felt like, James.
It felt like finally I wasopening up, and and
subsequently, as the years havegone on, and it's been quite a
few years now, I've been doingthe healing.
That um I've other guides havecome in, angels have come in,
ascended masters, I feel umYeshua or Jesus around me very
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much.
And as I began to open up to thehealing at the beginning, I
would always hear you never healheal alone.
It was like a mantra thatstarted.
I would open up and it wouldcome through, you never heal
alone.
And it was my team of guides,and we all have this.
You know, I'm not special ordifferent in any way.
We all have our our guides andour angels around us, and they
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were letting me know that I'mnot alone, that they were here.
SPEAKER_01 (32:35):
And isn't it strange though?
Because you know, when we gothrough dark moments or, you
know, the dark night of the soulor very challenging times, we've
we do feel alone.
Yes, we feel awfully alone, andand I think that's a human
condition when we go throughreally tough moments, I think.
But there's something beautifulto know as the energy sort of
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dissipates a little bit, the theheaviness dissipates, the light
returns.
It's a bit like you know, thesunrise happens again.
Yes, and um and I think anywhich way you get to feel better
or even a little bit lighterafter difficult times, I think
is a beautiful thing.
Um I know there's another partof your work that you haven't
talked about, which is the pastlife therapy.
(33:18):
Yes, so that's so how does thatsort of fit in with what you're
doing?
Because you know, your yourstory is like a mishmash of uh a
spiritual awakening and healingat the same time.
SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (33:29):
And you know, to make it relatable, how does this
all connect, you know, with thepast life stuff as well?
SPEAKER_02 (33:36):
So again, what would happen is I would place my hands
uh sort of around in in the kindof soul um field, and again, I
was given a lot a lot of very umgreat mentoring around around
this um from my soul media, myguide, spiritual teacher.
And she was and I what washappening is I was placing my
hands around and I would startto have these visualizations of
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almost like an image, like astory, like a video playing in
my mind.
And I realized that I wasconnecting with people's past
lives, and I was being shownwait, say say that, say that
again.
SPEAKER_01 (34:13):
So you're putting your hands.
SPEAKER_02 (34:15):
So I'm placing, so instead of placing the hands on
the body, on the physical field,I was then moved, the healing
sort of began to evolve and moveagain.
I'm being guided, I'm being toldby my team, Claire Audiently.
Okay, place your hands above,above, and as I was placing my
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hands above, I'm collectconnecting with the outer soul
field.
So we are a big energy being,sure, obviously further, you
know, dense energy move movingout.
And within that, I would start,I would be picking up these
images.
And say, like for instance, aclient would come and they would
(34:57):
say, Um, I have an enormous fearof um of um you know being
attacked or something.
I have an enormous fear of beingstrangled.
Right.
Um and I would then put I placemy hands around their that that
area, and I would be shown apast life where perhaps they
were attacked or strangled or orhung.
(35:18):
And sometimes they wouldn't evenhave to tell me that story.
I would just pick it up and thenwe'd discuss it afterwards, and
they'd say, Oh, that's reallyweird, because I've really felt
like I've always had loads ofsore throats, um, or I've had a
real problem um kind of speakingmy truth, opening up.
(35:40):
Um, so again, I went throughthis, not so much now, but I
went through this phase ofworking with the client and
doing a type of guided past liferegression where we're releasing
that energy.
SPEAKER_01 (35:55):
So sometimes we can feel stuck in life and we're
thinking, how on earth did weget stuck?
And it might be ancestral or itmight be from the past, or it
might be.
SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
So it may not be come from this life, but it can
come from other lives and andother people who are in our life
now that are part of our soulgroup.
So I know we've gone quite offon a off on one here, but it's
all part of the evolvement ofwhat happened.
SPEAKER_01 (36:19):
So so, given what you know, given your experience,
given the soul guidance that youhave and the healing that you
offer other people, what haveyou picked out from the entire
journey that you've had ofhealing that is essential for us
as human beings, whether we'reaware of this material or not?
What do you think is the mostimportant that Louise has
(36:40):
understood throughout this?
SPEAKER_02 (36:43):
That's a very good question, James.
I I would say it's aboutlearning to love ourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (36:50):
Yeah.
And how did you do it when youwere feeling the exact opposite?
How did you learn to loveyourself?
SPEAKER_02 (36:57):
I think it was it was starting to listen to my
body.
SPEAKER_01 (37:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:02):
Really starting to listen.
And when I began to listen to mybody, I realized I was so much
more than just that busy mind,that mind of saying, I'm not
good enough, I need to do more,I need to, I need to, you know,
be more, achieve more, um, thatworry of being judged, and
realized that actually I wasstarting to connect in with my
(37:28):
intuition, with my love, with myheart, with my higher self.
And I say all that because, youknow, it can be however someone
feels, feels it.
I personally now connect to myhigher self.
I have conversations with myhigher self.
For others, it may be connectingwith their heart.
But there are other practicalthings like um having
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boundaries.
SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
Yeah.
Did you not feel as though youhad boundaries previously?
Completely no, no, no.
And you're just a yes person thewhole time.
SPEAKER_02 (37:57):
Yeah, overly people-pleasing, um uh feeling,
um, letting myself feel like I'mbeing judged, perhaps even if I
wasn't being judged.
Um, so acceptance, acceptance ofwho I was, and and sort of
surrendering into that, intothat being.
This is who I am, and this is myjourney, and this is where I am.
(38:21):
And as I say, letting letting goof that that push of keep push
pushing myself.
SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
I I I love the the acceptance that's important to
accept yourself.
There's something beautiful aswe sort of transition towards
the end of this beautifulconversation, Louise, which is
your little time in Wesley.
I caught a little video of you,I think it was this year or last
year, I can't remember.
And as you walking around thisbeautiful natural garden in
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Surrey, and I saw such a joybeaming through your eyes, which
is very rare.
And you know, for me, when Iresearch this podcast, I'm
always looking for people withauthenticity to share their
story, and I, you know, and I Ifeel energy and I see it.
And on that video, I was like,this is why I've got to call
(39:15):
Louise now after all this time.
Uh it's been a very long time,although my my family don't live
there anymore.
Um fascinated to see that lightin your eyes after all this
challenge that you've beenthrough.
But this challenge was also whatI like to call a setup.
Yeah, yes, we're doing now,right?
And tell us a little bit aboutthat in Wisley because this was
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really beautiful for theaudience.
SPEAKER_02 (39:38):
This, this going to Wisley, which is a beautiful um
part of the RHS beautifulgardens, which I'm very lucky to
live close by.
I felt that this we spend somuch time in our life have doing
things, don't we?
We have our long to-do list,etc., etc.
But that day the sun was out,and I thought I'm gonna take
(40:01):
myself off on my own as an actof self-love, and I'm gonna go
to Wisley by myself and have alovely walk in the sunshine
amongst the flowers.
And it was a place that I went alot as a child.
I've got very fond memoriesgoing there with my
grandparents, and I spent manyyears actually going to Wisley
(40:23):
in a wheelchair and beingwheeled round.
And as I walked around, Isuddenly thought, wow, I'm here
walking around.
I've driven here, I'm walking onmy legs, they're working, I I
feel free, I feel light, and Ifelt so much gratitude, so much
(40:46):
gratitude that I just wanted todo that little that little video
that I did.
SPEAKER_01 (40:49):
We did that video, but in that video you told us.
Yes, and hey, I was once notable to do this, and now the
doctor said I couldn't walkagain and I'm walking again, and
I drove myself here and I'msmelling the flowers.
Yes, this for me was most peoplemay take it for granted.
SPEAKER_02 (41:05):
Exactly, and I think that's that's such a true thing
to say.
There's so much that we we cantake for granted, and just to be
able to stop here and there andhave that sense of gratitude, no
matter what it is, even if it'sjust spending a minute sitting
down, having a nice cup of teasomewhere, or you know, hearing
(41:27):
a bird song, just these littlemoments where we can come into
that sense, that sense ofgratitude, um, which is
definitely what I had.
And I I'm not making out I'msomebody that's floating around
every day in that sense ofgratitude because I'm not, you
know, I've got busy business, Irun a home, etc.
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But I'm also very mindful aswell that I am so grateful.
I'm grateful for what hashappened to me, even though it
was very hard.
And I'm I'm grateful for beingable to have little joyous
moments.
SPEAKER_01 (42:06):
And isn't that beautiful, right?
What would you say is the besttakeaway from your entire
experience for people, you know,given what you've been through?
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Wow, I suppose it's a sense of if someone says to
you you can't, you won't, that'simpossible, don't believe it.
Be your own guide.
Be your own guide.
I think, and that's somethingvery much I say to my clients as
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well.
We get told that we have to docertain things in life.
Um, but actually, when we reallylearn to be in our own
sovereignty and learn to buildup our own self-empowerment and
connect again with our heart,this is when we can really start
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living as our own guides andliving in love for ourselves,
for others.
SPEAKER_01 (43:07):
Beautiful, and I know you do a lot of private
work with clients.
What's the name of your websiteso we can share it with people?
SPEAKER_02 (43:14):
So I'm louisyounghealing.co.uk.
SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
And I'll have all the links here for thank you,
James.
It is my old favouriteneighbour.
Thank you so much indeed forjoining the show.
I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02 (43:27):
Um thank you, James, for letting me share a bit of my
story, and thank you to you forall the amazing work you do, and
by sharing your light with theworld and all the people that
you have on.
And I've looked a lot a lot atyour amazing um podcast as well,
and you are yeah, you'resharing, giving those people an
(43:48):
opportunity to share their lightas well.
So thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (43:51):
Well, we're all we're all in it together, aren't
we?
SPEAKER_02 (43:54):
We are, we certainly are.
SPEAKER_01 (43:55):
So Louise Young is this week's super soul model.
Thank you, Louise.
SPEAKER_02 (43:59):
Oh, thank you, James.
SPEAKER_01 (44:01):
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In this episode, I'm joined by Louise Young, a soul
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now helps others reconnect withher own energy and intuition.
SPEAKER_02 (00:16):
Another time.
SPEAKER_01 (00:17):
Hello and welcome to the James Grantstrom Podcast
Super Soul Model Series.
This week we are joined by myold neighbour, Louise Young.
Now, Louise is an intuitivehealer and soul guide.
Louise's journey began in hertwenties when she faced a very
long, severe battle with Emmyand chronic fatigue.
Through her experience, shelearned self-love, deep
(00:38):
acceptance, and awakened herconnection to spirit.
And this strengthened herrelationship with herself as
well.
A spontaneous out-of-bodyexperience came later where she
began to be aware of herself aspure consciousness, and this
confirmed her path.
Today Louise works with her teamin spirit and guiding and
empowering clients to heal, toreconnect and remember who they
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are really are.
Welcome to the show, Louise.
SPEAKER_02 (01:03):
Hi James.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm very excited to be here.
SPEAKER_01 (01:08):
It's so funny that we can grow up together when we
were, I don't know, well, I wasabout five or six or something
like that.
You were across the road withJessica and me and my sisters,
and here we are years later, andwe're talking about something
that perhaps we didn't even knowabout as kids, or at least it
was unconscious at the time.
But then when we go through ourown journey and we go through
(01:31):
challenges and suffering and wefind our way again, it's so
funny that our paths have metand looped again.
And so I just wanted to say,isn't it amazing how sometimes
without you even knowing, lifehas always put you in the
perfect place and that we're allconnected.
SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
Absolutely.
And I I think that's beautiful.
Thank you for that.
Because I often say to myclients as well, we are always
in the right place at the righttime.
And it's just to trust thatpath.
And I guess it's a case of sortof surrendering and accepting to
where we are right now.
SPEAKER_01 (02:09):
Yeah, but often it's strange though, because anyone
listening, we've all gone, we'realways going through some sort
of challenge.
There's always something lurkingin the background.
But like it's it's quite unusualto think, oh, we were in the
right place, because sometimesit really doesn't feel like
you're in the right place.
But if zoom back out from ourchildhood, you know, here we are
again after I've had myexperiences and challenges, and
(02:31):
you've had your experiences, andhere we are trying to share the
story that everything's okay,regardless of how things may
seem.
SPEAKER_02 (02:40):
Absolutely, yes.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01 (02:42):
So would you be kind enough to draw us back to your
personal story, right back tothe beginning?
Because when I introduced you,we talked about you you suffered
from severe chronic fatigue andME, and what that path brought
to you.
How did it all happen and howdid this healing journey all
begin?
SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
So, James, I I think probably like yourself and maybe
many that are watching this umpodcast, as a child, um, I was a
very sensitive child.
I always felt that there wasmore than just this physical
body.
Um, I had various challengeswhen I was a child.
Um, and you probably knowyourself, when I moved to
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Cobbham, I was very badlybullied for a few years.
Um, and school was quitedifficult for me as well.
I had um undiagnosed dyslexia aswell.
So I think all of this led to afeeling of a lack of self-love,
a lack of self-worth.
(03:42):
And that just compounded as Iwent into my teens.
I had an eating disorder, I hadthen I sort of that led on to a
couple of very difficultrelationships.
And moving forward into my late20s, I actually went, um, I sort
of threw everything in, decidedthat that's enough.
(04:03):
I'm gonna go backpacking toAustralia and New Zealand.
And I was not in a good physicalstate at the time or mental
state.
And I think looking back, Irealized that there was a really
severe lack of self-love, ofself-esteem, of a complete
disconnection to who I was.
(04:25):
And I touched on the spiritualside a bit in my early 20s when
I'd suffered some panic attacks,but then I kind of lost my way
again, and like many, it all gotrather hedonistic in the 20s.
And then I went backpacking andI caught um just the most awful,
awful virus, and gradually myhealth went down and down, but
(04:49):
still I wasn't listening.
I wasn't listening to myself,whether you want to call out
listening to my intuition, myhigher self, my gut feeling.
And I just pushed and pushedthrough until I basically
collapsed.
SPEAKER_01 (05:04):
I collapse.
So was this whilst you were inAustralia?
SPEAKER_02 (05:08):
I was collapsing when I was out there.
I I was still in this greatsense of denial.
I can cover this up by um bydoing things, by parting, by
drinking.
Um, but I knew that therewasn't, there was something very
wrong with me.
I started developing awfulheadaches, dizzy spells,
(05:31):
weakness.
And eventually I did come homeafter about kind of five or six
months, where it literally gotto the stage where I thought,
I'm now really getting quiteconcerned about myself.
SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:46):
And then I came home.
But it's amazing, James, and Iknow you'll understand this
yourself as many will, how muchwe can be in self-denial.
And and I I think this is reallykey.
We can be really falling apartand sometimes in a great uh
(06:08):
place of self-sabotage, but noteven realizing it.
And I think that was very muchpart of my journey and part of
my learning.
SPEAKER_01 (06:18):
It's really interesting because I remember
in my case with the drinking, Iwas like, I didn't know what I
was doing.
That was what my friends and Idid.
That was kind of like what theculture was.
I didn't know any different.
So, what happened to you?
So, when did the ME begin andthe chronic fatigue?
SPEAKER_02 (06:34):
I came home and I was still in that state of push,
push, push.
I felt I needed to prove myself.
I'd come home, I'd beentraveling, I got um a really
good job in marketing.
This was a big career break forme.
I was really excited about it,but deep down again, I knew
something wasn't right.
(06:55):
But I took the job, and that wasin um in the summer of 2000, and
it was very, very stressful, butI pushed through, I worked
really, really long hours, um,and eventually my body just
began to break down.
I think there's no other reallyway of saying it.
(07:16):
I I and I was masking it.
So, so basically, people wouldbe saying, Um, oh, do you want
to come out for lunchtime andwe'll walk, you know, we'll walk
into Kingston, that's where itwas at the time.
And I would say, Oh no, I'mgonna finish off this work.
What I was actually doing is Iwas going to the bathroom and
lying down and like hiding in acubicle.
SPEAKER_01 (07:38):
So is it that you felt you needed to hide?
SPEAKER_02 (07:41):
I I suppose, James, it's a fear of being judged, I
suppose.
That that's that's a big thingas well.
A fear of being judged, of notbeing understood, of I suppose
letting the balls drop.
You know, I felt I'd had I hadthis great job, I had to hold it
together, um, otherwise I wouldbe a failure.
(08:01):
My my family, my parents wouldthink I was a failure.
But interestingly, I think myparents, particularly my mum,
she knew that something wasn'tright.
Yeah.
And she was quite worried.
SPEAKER_01 (08:14):
So there's the you know, there's the the intuition
coming through through mum.
Yes.
She, you know, like I alwayslike to think that the female is
the oracle and the man is thesafety or the provider.
And I think that in intuitivelyyour mum knew, but and and
intuitively you knew, but youjust probably didn't have the
tools or knew what to do.
SPEAKER_02 (08:35):
Exactly.
I I was completely shut down tothat.
And um, as things progressedover the next few months, my I
kind of was started to lose theability to to kind of I was to
say even walk.
It was that serious.
You know, I would I would workall day and then I would I would
go back home, which was only 10minutes away.
(08:56):
Sometimes I would drive becauseI was so weak, and then I would
just go to bed.
Go to bed, and then I would stayin bed, and then I'd get up the
next day and go back to work anddo the same thing all over
again, until it got to the pointwhere I thought I can't do this
anymore.
I just can't do this.
(09:16):
So I said to my boss, um, do youknow I'm not feeling great?
I know I might have a bit of theflu.
I'm gonna take um a long weekendand I'm gonna go back to my
parents because I had a flatlocally.
So I went back to my parents.
I went to bed and I basicallydidn't really get up for two
years.
SPEAKER_01 (09:36):
Oh, wow.
Yeah, okay.
And there's the you know, thereit is.
And do you know when you werediagnosed?
Were you diagnosed during thattime?
SPEAKER_02 (09:43):
Or well, yes, well, I went to bed, and that and that
really was the beginning of meletting go because I've been
holding on for so tight, theadrenaline had been going, my
mind had been going, push, push,push.
So I let go, and my body justwas like, finally, finally,
(10:05):
she's listening.
Yeah, and within those twoweeks, I went downhill to the
point where I couldn't get outof bed, I couldn't feed myself,
I couldn't get to the bathroom.
I thought I was gonna die.
I thought if I've gone downhillthis much in two weeks, the next
step is that I'm not gonna havethe energy to breathe.
(10:26):
And this is it, it's game over.
This is it.
I I literally thought I wasgonna die at that stage.
SPEAKER_01 (10:32):
It's it's uh, you know, I've got a lot of
compassion listening to a storybecause not a lot of people
would understand chronic fatigueor ME.
You know, they may hear it oneor two people may have had it.
How how how many people actuallyhave it, let's say, for
instance, in the UK?
SPEAKER_02 (10:47):
I think it was about a quarter of a million people.
SPEAKER_01 (10:49):
It's it's a lot, it's a lot of people, more than
more people than you think,right?
SPEAKER_02 (10:54):
It's a lot, and a lot of people don't realize they
have it, or they or everythingis is is that sort of on a
continuum.
Everything, so it may be thatsomeone doesn't have it
severely, but they have itmildly, which is actually
probably even worse because inmy journey, I have met hundreds
and like thousands of peoplewith ME over the years, and many
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people who have it mildly arestill pushing through, you know,
trying to hold down a job, afamily.
Um, and I think in a way, I'mquite grateful that my what
happened to me was sospectacularly awful that I I was
taken seriously and I was takeninto hospital, Epsom Hospital,
and I was very, very lucky.
(11:36):
I got diagnosed by animmunologist who basically said,
Oh, I've seen people like thisbefore.
I think you've got Emmy.
I'd known one person before withEmmy, and for me, I thought, oh
well, I've got ME, that's it.
You never recover with Emmy.
And I was in hospital and yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:57):
So thank you for sharing.
Um I guess the next part of yourjourney is really interesting
now, because then comes thehealing.
unknown (12:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (12:08):
So could you talk us through the healing journey of
you, going through thisexperience?
Because you thought to yourself,I'm never gonna heal again.
But I bet there was a part ofyou that was saying, That's not
true.
SPEAKER_02 (12:19):
Yes.
Once I got out of hospital,which was a very grim experience
being in hospital, but once Igot out, I remember thinking to
myself, Well, I've always been aspiritual being, and I'm gonna
use this time now to connectback with that, and it and I
felt quite quickly, I actuallyfelt that it had been a gift.
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That's a gift.
SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
That's that's magic because you often go through
trials and extreme challenges.
Sometimes it's death, health.
I don't know.
I want to understand yourmindset about this.
SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
I honestly think, James, that I think on a very,
very deep soul level, obviouslyI'm a spiritual person.
I believe we we are, you know,we are souls having a human
experience.
And I think at that stage, I hada beginning really of an
awakening.
I knew that this had to happento me to put me on my path of
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being a healer, of being ahealer, and I and I just felt
that at a very, very deep level.
And and I'm not saying it waseasy, it wasn't easy.
There was still, you know, manydays of darkness.
It was really, you know, forcertainly for the first year,
felt like a huge dark night ofthe soul.
(13:35):
Um, and I got slowly, slightlybetter, um, rebuilding my
relationship with my parents.
That was really a major part ofit, and with myself.
Because I realized that actuallyI had actually hated myself.
I had no self-love at all.
(13:55):
I couldn't look in the mirror, Icouldn't look at a photo without
thinking I'm worthless, I'm notI'm nothing.
SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
Um that couldn't be further from the truth, right?
That couldn't be further fromthe truth.
Yes, somehow we get programmedor exposure to life or even our
environment might tell usotherwise.
And somehow, if we're verysensitive and young, you just
accept that that might be true,even though it is absolutely and
actually to add a little bit oflightness to this conversation,
(14:25):
yeah, because you know it'squite it is heavy, but I guess
there is a big bounce, you know,and that's where we're getting
to, that's where we're we'realluding to with this
conversation.
SPEAKER_02 (14:33):
And it's really interesting because during that
period, I remember you movedhome to your parents, so then
you were across the road.
SPEAKER_01 (14:41):
Yeah, I did.
I started modelling, and I'mlike, yeah, I uh yeah.
And I only moved back for alittle bit, but we okay, yeah.
Carol.
SPEAKER_02 (14:50):
I feel you were very much on your health journey at
the time.
SPEAKER_00 (14:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:53):
I remember you coming over and talking to me
about a few kind of healthproducts that you were into at
the time.
And I just remember thinking,oh, this is really nice to
reconnect with James, and he'sobviously really into health as
well.
SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
Yeah, my my my journey to my awakening actually
began through health.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:13):
And it was first the gym, and then secondly, when I
understood that there had to bea mind-body connection, I
thought, well, I don't know muchabout the mind.
So don't let me understandnutrition first before
understanding how the mind worksand what happens if we're able
to still the mind and how thatkeeps you well.
So I I I'm I probably was aroundthere when when I was across the
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room.
SPEAKER_02 (15:35):
But which is not dissimilar to where I was,
because even though I was inthat place of meditating, and
that's very key that I'll comeback to in a minute.
Yeah, I was also I got to thepoint where I thought, right,
well, I've done the whole officemarketing thing.
That's not me, it's never feltlike me.
I want to learn about holistichealth.
So I embarked on what was backin those days the good old
(15:58):
correspondence course.
Okay, learning about um anatomy,physiology, nutrition, um, bit
of counseling.
So I'd started to embark on thatcourse.
So I was really like, this iswhat I want to do, and I'm going
to use this opportunity tolearn.
(16:20):
Finally, I have the chance nowto learn.
And and it wasn't easy because Iwas a resting for a lot of the
time.
A lot of the time I was in avery meditative state, you know,
and and a lot of the time Iwasn't actually really aware of
um, because my circadian rhythmwas totally out.
SPEAKER_01 (16:41):
Because you're probably sleeping all day, is
that right?
SPEAKER_02 (16:43):
Yeah, sleeping a lot and then awake a lot at night.
Sometimes it I would be almostlike, I'm not even sure whether
this is night or day.
It was I was in a very, verylucid state, and I was
meditating a lot.
And then again, back in thosedays, which was again around
what 2000 to 2002, um, it wasjust a case of you put you
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popped on a tape or a CD, youput some ambient music on, and
you went off and you meditated.
There was none of what we havethese days.
Um, so that was what I basicallydid for many, many hours a day.
SPEAKER_01 (17:23):
There's something that was really important that
happened to you.
Uh it happened in your bedroom,and you had an out-of-body
experience.
SPEAKER_02 (17:33):
I did.
So there I was um feeling very,very unwell.
And this was a few years into myjourney, and and Emmy is very
much about relapses andremissions, and I would step
forward a bit and then I wouldcome back, and it was all very
frustrating.
But this was in a time of arelapse.
So I was um in bed, I was, I wasprobably meditating or resting,
(17:57):
I can't even remember.
But the next thing I knew, I wasjust, I can only describe it as
I was an orb of light justfloating around my ceiling.
And I was, how I believe, in myum in my soul consciousness.
So we've heard many people talkabout having astral travel,
(18:20):
being in their light bodies,seeing themselves kind of as a
body, but being able to kind ofwalk through walls and that sort
of thing.
Whereas I was very much this orbshape, and but I felt like I was
me.
I was me, I and I was totallyfearless, totally peaceful, and
I felt totally free.
(18:41):
I stayed within my room.
SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
Could you look at the body when you when you went
down?
SPEAKER_02 (18:45):
No, I didn't, James.
And I know we hear about this alot about doing that, but I
didn't.
What I do remember thinking is Iremember thinking, oh, I'm gonna
go and look out my window now.
This was a big deal because Iwas in my bed, not well.
At the time.
SPEAKER_01 (19:00):
And even getting up was a major.
SPEAKER_02 (19:02):
Yeah, getting up needed assistance from my
mother.
So I floated over to mywindowsill, and I remember
looking at my things I had on mywindowsill, thinking, this is
nice looking out at the window,looking across the road,
probably seeing your house.
SPEAKER_00 (19:19):
Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_02 (19:21):
And and thinking, oh, you know, this is really
nice.
I feel really peaceful, I'm justfloating around.
Um, again, all I can say is Ifelt peace, total peace, total
freedom, and but the next thingI knew, I was back in my body
again.
SPEAKER_01 (19:41):
That is an amazing experience.
SPEAKER_00 (19:43):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (19:44):
But my question that is that strikes me is how much
of a big deal was that to yougiven that you were bedbound?
SPEAKER_02 (19:56):
Well, the incredible thing is, James, is that I don't
think I really properlyconnected to that having that
experience until quite a fewyears later.
SPEAKER_01 (20:06):
Wow, how come?
SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
I know it it seems and it seems totally bizarre to
me because now I look back and Ithink that was a gift.
That was a gift to me to say I'mon the path, and um, and a gift
to help me understand the natureof us as being soul beings.
SPEAKER_01 (20:26):
Yeah, that was bigger than our body, yeah, more
completely.
SPEAKER_02 (20:30):
Yeah, and I was obviously in this great state of
fear, I was fearful of being inmy body, my body had let me
down, or perhaps I had let downmy body, yeah, that as well.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
That's a very interesting way to look at it.
I'm I'm always thinking of thepeople listening or people
watching, you know, they may notunderstand your individual
experience, but if you're notable to do something, it you're
really physically incapacitatedlike you were for for many
years, yeah, it's a big deal tofeel peace.
SPEAKER_02 (21:08):
Yes, it is, and I think that's where the
meditation came in, because Iwould be in my mind a lot, and
that's what would give me peace.
When I say in my mind, I wouldbe doing imagining in the
meditation that I was dancing, Iwas walking on the beach, which
I loved, I was desperatelymissing being on a beach.
(21:29):
And I little did I know that Iwas waking up what you call your
psychic senses.
So I was waking up my um, youwant to call it pineogram, third
eye, intuition, through yearsand years of these imaginative
guided meditations where I wasguiding myself, and that was my
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place of peace.
Because when I was doing that, Ididn't have to connect with the
profound fatigue and pain.
I was in a lot of physical painas well.
SPEAKER_01 (22:02):
It's funny that pain causes us to become so present,
doesn't it?
Yes, and I think that thisblends quite nicely into the
next part of your story that youneeded to begin to listen.
Yes.
And then as you began to listen,what was happening next in
Louisa's experience?
SPEAKER_02 (22:22):
Well, I gradually began to improve um my health
and start to um do a bit more inlife, just go out a little bit
more.
At first, it was in awheelchair, um, a walking stick
as well, which again I felt verythink at first it felt quite
embarrassing there.
I was in my early 30s.
(22:43):
I was walking with a walkingstick.
Walking stick, and um, you know,where we lived was quite hilly
as well, so you know, but thatwas all um it was all sort of
part of me beginning to get alittle bit physically stronger.
Um so I began to in improve, butagain, it was relapses and
remissions.
(23:04):
But my learning was not to goback to be the hedonistic and
person that I was who didn'tlove myself, and every time I
felt that I was slipping backinto being that person, I felt
that my health would get worse.
It was like I was put back onthe path every time, put back on
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the path, put back on the path.
And this has been the journey,really, for about the last 25
years that I feel like if I'mnot being true to myself, if I'm
not listening to myself, beingkind to myself, something
happens to put me back on thatpath again.
SPEAKER_01 (23:46):
Yeah, I like I like that.
It's almost the same.
No, you're not having that,you're not having that get back
on the path.
Yes, yes.
In truth, it's reallyinteresting that everybody's on
their own path, and you can'treally go wrong.
And if you do, you get put backon the path, whatever,
whatever's going on in yourlife.
SPEAKER_00 (24:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
And I'm fascinated about what happens to you next
because as you went on yourpath, you began listening to
your guides.
SPEAKER_02 (24:13):
Absolutely.
So, so really to sort of to cuta long story short, I got um, I
met a wonderful man who I'mstill with.
We're married.
Thank you.
We we are we have a hometogether, and um, I got to the
point where I was well enough tostart to work, and of course,
what I wanted to do was to setup a healing practice that was
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to definitely um help to helpother people with what I had
learned as well.
SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
And can I can I just like I just fascinated that that
is a beautiful transmutation ofeverything that you've gone
through for such a long periodof time, just going, what if
what I've learned along the waycould help other people?
Yeah, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (24:58):
It feels such a gift to be able to do what what I do,
it really does.
And and I feel so strongly thatthis is what I was meant to do
in this lifetime, and I had togo through what I went through
to get to where I am now becausewhen I work with clients, um I
hear their stories and I canshow that compassion and that
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empathy because I know what it'slike to be in a very dark place
for a long time.
So so I trained in variousholistic therapies and
nutrition, and I started off inthat place with my practice, but
then um I was beginning to feellike there's more to this.
I I feel um like I want to learna bit more about energy, about
(25:46):
about healing, and I did varioushealing modalities, and that was
really what I think began tohugely awaken me.
And like yourself, I had been ona mission to read every single
spiritual book I'd get my handson to.
I know we both read umConversations with God, didn't
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we?
SPEAKER_01 (26:08):
That was actually the first book my friend who's
no longer with us anymore, butthat was I got that book in the
year 2000, and yeah, that was Idevoured that book in one day,
and then followed a couple ofother thousand books, but
business as well as spiritualityand health, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (26:25):
Yes, I think as well, that was the the first
series of books I really startedwith as well.
And then again, I mean, booksand books and books, and just um
almost like insatiable appetite,you know, like yourself.
I just wanted to know more.
I wanted to know more.
And I've been doing yoga for along time.
I had touched on a little bit ofgoing to yoga retreats and doing
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meditation on the retreat.
So I'd already been on that pathfor quite a long time.
So I started the uh the healing,and um, it was a case of coming
into this place of trust.
So I started to build up a bitof a client base, and I remember
one day I was working withsomebody, and I placed my hands
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around her head, and I just waslike, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And I started to feel energy,and I remember that clearly.
That was the first time Istarted to feel energy, so and I
felt I feel energy now in verydifferent ways with different
people, yeah.
And then that moved on tostarting to hear my main guide
(27:36):
who was working with me.
SPEAKER_01 (27:37):
So again, a very quite how what an unusual path,
right?
From chronic fatigue, em me,meditation, you know, dabbling,
an out-of-body experience, andjust going, look, what's up with
me?
to going, I really want totransmute this into something
good, and then boom, anotherupgrade.
I mean, from somebody who usedto live across the road from me,
(27:59):
this is not uh a usual path.
But then again, I'd love to saythis none of us has a usual
path.
We don't know what's gonnahappen.
SPEAKER_02 (28:07):
Exactly, exactly.
Um, so there I was doing doingthe healing, and I became aware
that there was a voice.
It was a man's voice on my righthand side, and through my
peripheral vision, I could see aum I could see a man, an elderly
man in a white coat.
(28:27):
He looked like a doctor.
Now, when I say my peripheralvision, this was in my my third
eye.
So when I heal, I'm mostlyhealing with my eyes shut.
So I'm in the very deep thetastate.
And you know, for your audiencewho are wondering, well, how on
earth do you do you get to thatstate?
It's practice, practice,practice, practice.
SPEAKER_01 (28:47):
Developing a muscle like anything.
SPEAKER_02 (28:49):
It is, it's it's practice, practice.
So I'd sat in meditation formany years, but also with the
healing, it was coming into thatbreath, yeah, coming into that
completely present moment.
Um, and this went on, James, forabout six months.
I was hearing this man's voice,and eventually I thought I
really need to know more aboutwhat's going on because this man
(29:11):
was training me.
He was saying, Go here, touchthe feet, hold over the heart,
hold the head, feel the energy.
What can you feel?
Lift that away, work withcolour.
Um, he was instructing me, andeventually I saw I was very,
very lucky.
An incredible um soul mediumcame into my life.
(29:33):
Again, no luck, it wasabsolutely meant to be.
And I went to see her and Isaid, This is what's been going
on.
And she said, before I even saidit, she said, You're working
with a doctor guide, I can seehim.
And I was like, that's literallyabout what I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_01 (29:49):
Isn't it fascinating that even though we can't see
things with our physical eyes,yeah, there are things that we
can feel or pick up.
And if you've ever done Anyplant medicine, you will see
visuals, not that I've donethem, but this is what I hear
from a lot of people.
Um, I don't necessarily haveseen anything, but I feel things
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around me, and that's a reallybeautiful experience in my case
because it's always somethingbenevolent that I feel around
me.
That's usually because I'm in agood vibe.
But if you're not in a goodvibe, you know, you could get
the movies.
But you know, I always try anddiscipline myself to give myself
the best possible start to be ina good vibe.
That's why I call it the greenlights.
You see more green lights inlife.
(30:32):
So, in your experience, you weregetting the green lights of keep
doing this healing work, thiscould help a lot of people.
And you were guided to the thelady, the soul media who told
you about the doctor.
So, what happened next?
SPEAKER_02 (30:45):
Well, she basically gave me a lot of confidence.
She said, I see you're workingwith this doctor guide.
And this was all rather funnybecause during my time of being
unwell, I'd actually done ahealth science and biology
degree with the Open Yumi.
And I thought I was going to endup doing something like nursing.
So I had the joke that alwaysmakes me laugh is I thought I
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would be working with doctors inhuman form.
I didn't realise I'd be workingwith doctor in spirit.
SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
It's so funny, isn't it?
And you know, if you believe inangels, which I do because you
know my life is a miracle,there's no way I should have got
out of that car accident.
What I'm fascinated with is ifyou can't see it, it doesn't
mean it it's not there.
SPEAKER_00 (31:29):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (31:30):
And I believe we all have guardian angels and we all
have guides, but to get to thatfeeling or get to that knowing
within you is your own journey.
And and it's not forced uponyou, it just suddenly happens
like a door opens and suddenlyyou open.
SPEAKER_02 (31:45):
And that's what it felt like, James.
It felt like finally I wasopening up, and and
subsequently, as the years havegone on, and it's been quite a
few years now, I've been doingthe healing.
That um I've other guides havecome in, angels have come in,
ascended masters, I feel umYeshua or Jesus around me very
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much.
And as I began to open up to thehealing at the beginning, I
would always hear you never healheal alone.
It was like a mantra thatstarted.
I would open up and it wouldcome through, you never heal
alone.
And it was my team of guides,and we all have this.
You know, I'm not special ordifferent in any way.
We all have our our guides andour angels around us, and they
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were letting me know that I'mnot alone, that they were here.
SPEAKER_01 (32:35):
And isn't it strange though?
Because you know, when we gothrough dark moments or, you
know, the dark night of the soulor very challenging times, we've
we do feel alone.
Yes, we feel awfully alone, andand I think that's a human
condition when we go throughreally tough moments, I think.
But there's something beautifulto know as the energy sort of
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dissipates a little bit, the theheaviness dissipates, the light
returns.
It's a bit like you know, thesunrise happens again.
Yes, and um and I think anywhich way you get to feel better
or even a little bit lighterafter difficult times, I think
is a beautiful thing.
Um I know there's another partof your work that you haven't
talked about, which is the pastlife therapy.
(33:18):
Yes, so that's so how does thatsort of fit in with what you're
doing?
Because you know, your yourstory is like a mishmash of uh a
spiritual awakening and healingat the same time.
SPEAKER_00 (33:29):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (33:29):
And you know, to make it relatable, how does this
all connect, you know, with thepast life stuff as well?
SPEAKER_02 (33:36):
So again, what would happen is I would place my hands
uh sort of around in in the kindof soul um field, and again, I
was given a lot a lot of very umgreat mentoring around around
this um from my soul media, myguide, spiritual teacher.
And she was and I what washappening is I was placing my
hands around and I would startto have these visualizations of
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almost like an image, like astory, like a video playing in
my mind.
And I realized that I wasconnecting with people's past
lives, and I was being shownwait, say say that, say that
again.
SPEAKER_01 (34:13):
So you're putting your hands.
SPEAKER_02 (34:15):
So I'm placing, so instead of placing the hands on
the body, on the physical field,I was then moved, the healing
sort of began to evolve and moveagain.
I'm being guided, I'm being toldby my team, Claire Audiently.
Okay, place your hands above,above, and as I was placing my
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hands above, I'm collectconnecting with the outer soul
field.
So we are a big energy being,sure, obviously further, you
know, dense energy move movingout.
And within that, I would start,I would be picking up these
images.
And say, like for instance, aclient would come and they would
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say, Um, I have an enormous fearof um of um you know being
attacked or something.
I have an enormous fear of beingstrangled.
Right.
Um and I would then put I placemy hands around their that that
area, and I would be shown apast life where perhaps they
were attacked or strangled or orhung.
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And sometimes they wouldn't evenhave to tell me that story.
I would just pick it up and thenwe'd discuss it afterwards, and
they'd say, Oh, that's reallyweird, because I've really felt
like I've always had loads ofsore throats, um, or I've had a
real problem um kind of speakingmy truth, opening up.
(35:40):
Um, so again, I went throughthis, not so much now, but I
went through this phase ofworking with the client and
doing a type of guided past liferegression where we're releasing
that energy.
SPEAKER_01 (35:55):
So sometimes we can feel stuck in life and we're
thinking, how on earth did weget stuck?
And it might be ancestral or itmight be from the past, or it
might be.
SPEAKER_02 (36:03):
So it may not be come from this life, but it can
come from other lives and andother people who are in our life
now that are part of our soulgroup.
So I know we've gone quite offon a off on one here, but it's
all part of the evolvement ofwhat happened.
SPEAKER_01 (36:19):
So so, given what you know, given your experience,
given the soul guidance that youhave and the healing that you
offer other people, what haveyou picked out from the entire
journey that you've had ofhealing that is essential for us
as human beings, whether we'reaware of this material or not?
What do you think is the mostimportant that Louise has
(36:40):
understood throughout this?
SPEAKER_02 (36:43):
That's a very good question, James.
I I would say it's aboutlearning to love ourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (36:50):
Yeah.
And how did you do it when youwere feeling the exact opposite?
How did you learn to loveyourself?
SPEAKER_02 (36:57):
I think it was it was starting to listen to my
body.
SPEAKER_01 (37:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (37:02):
Really starting to listen.
And when I began to listen to mybody, I realized I was so much
more than just that busy mind,that mind of saying, I'm not
good enough, I need to do more,I need to, I need to, you know,
be more, achieve more, um, thatworry of being judged, and
realized that actually I wasstarting to connect in with my
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intuition, with my love, with myheart, with my higher self.
And I say all that because, youknow, it can be however someone
feels, feels it.
I personally now connect to myhigher self.
I have conversations with myhigher self.
For others, it may be connectingwith their heart.
But there are other practicalthings like um having
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boundaries.
SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
Yeah.
Did you not feel as though youhad boundaries previously?
Completely no, no, no.
And you're just a yes person thewhole time.
SPEAKER_02 (37:57):
Yeah, overly people-pleasing, um uh feeling,
um, letting myself feel like I'mbeing judged, perhaps even if I
wasn't being judged.
Um, so acceptance, acceptance ofwho I was, and and sort of
surrendering into that, intothat being.
This is who I am, and this is myjourney, and this is where I am.
(38:21):
And as I say, letting letting goof that that push of keep push
pushing myself.
SPEAKER_01 (38:30):
I I I love the the acceptance that's important to
accept yourself.
There's something beautiful aswe sort of transition towards
the end of this beautifulconversation, Louise, which is
your little time in Wesley.
I caught a little video of you,I think it was this year or last
year, I can't remember.
And as you walking around thisbeautiful natural garden in
(38:54):
Surrey, and I saw such a joybeaming through your eyes, which
is very rare.
And you know, for me, when Iresearch this podcast, I'm
always looking for people withauthenticity to share their
story, and I, you know, and I Ifeel energy and I see it.
And on that video, I was like,this is why I've got to call
(39:15):
Louise now after all this time.
Uh it's been a very long time,although my my family don't live
there anymore.
Um fascinated to see that lightin your eyes after all this
challenge that you've beenthrough.
But this challenge was also whatI like to call a setup.
Yeah, yes, we're doing now,right?
And tell us a little bit aboutthat in Wisley because this was
(39:37):
really beautiful for theaudience.
SPEAKER_02 (39:38):
This, this going to Wisley, which is a beautiful um
part of the RHS beautifulgardens, which I'm very lucky to
live close by.
I felt that this we spend somuch time in our life have doing
things, don't we?
We have our long to-do list,etc., etc.
But that day the sun was out,and I thought I'm gonna take
(40:01):
myself off on my own as an actof self-love, and I'm gonna go
to Wisley by myself and have alovely walk in the sunshine
amongst the flowers.
And it was a place that I went alot as a child.
I've got very fond memoriesgoing there with my
grandparents, and I spent manyyears actually going to Wisley
(40:23):
in a wheelchair and beingwheeled round.
And as I walked around, Isuddenly thought, wow, I'm here
walking around.
I've driven here, I'm walking onmy legs, they're working, I I
feel free, I feel light, and Ifelt so much gratitude, so much
(40:46):
gratitude that I just wanted todo that little that little video
that I did.
SPEAKER_01 (40:49):
We did that video, but in that video you told us.
Yes, and hey, I was once notable to do this, and now the
doctor said I couldn't walkagain and I'm walking again, and
I drove myself here and I'msmelling the flowers.
Yes, this for me was most peoplemay take it for granted.
SPEAKER_02 (41:05):
Exactly, and I think that's that's such a true thing
to say.
There's so much that we we cantake for granted, and just to be
able to stop here and there andhave that sense of gratitude, no
matter what it is, even if it'sjust spending a minute sitting
down, having a nice cup of teasomewhere, or you know, hearing
(41:27):
a bird song, just these littlemoments where we can come into
that sense, that sense ofgratitude, um, which is
definitely what I had.
And I I'm not making out I'msomebody that's floating around
every day in that sense ofgratitude because I'm not, you
know, I've got busy business, Irun a home, etc.
(41:48):
But I'm also very mindful aswell that I am so grateful.
I'm grateful for what hashappened to me, even though it
was very hard.
And I'm I'm grateful for beingable to have little joyous
moments.
SPEAKER_01 (42:06):
And isn't that beautiful, right?
What would you say is the besttakeaway from your entire
experience for people, you know,given what you've been through?
SPEAKER_02 (42:17):
Wow, I suppose it's a sense of if someone says to
you you can't, you won't, that'simpossible, don't believe it.
Be your own guide.
Be your own guide.
I think, and that's somethingvery much I say to my clients as
(42:39):
well.
We get told that we have to docertain things in life.
Um, but actually, when we reallylearn to be in our own
sovereignty and learn to buildup our own self-empowerment and
connect again with our heart,this is when we can really start
(42:59):
living as our own guides andliving in love for ourselves,
for others.
SPEAKER_01 (43:07):
Beautiful, and I know you do a lot of private
work with clients.
What's the name of your websiteso we can share it with people?
SPEAKER_02 (43:14):
So I'm louisyounghealing.co.uk.
SPEAKER_01 (43:17):
And I'll have all the links here for thank you,
James.
It is my old favouriteneighbour.
Thank you so much indeed forjoining the show.
I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_02 (43:27):
Um thank you, James, for letting me share a bit of my
story, and thank you to you forall the amazing work you do, and
by sharing your light with theworld and all the people that
you have on.
And I've looked a lot a lot atyour amazing um podcast as well,
and you are yeah, you'resharing, giving those people an
(43:48):
opportunity to share their lightas well.
So thank you.
SPEAKER_01 (43:51):
Well, we're all we're all in it together, aren't
we?
SPEAKER_02 (43:54):
We are, we certainly are.
SPEAKER_01 (43:55):
So Louise Young is this week's super soul model.
Thank you, Louise.
SPEAKER_02 (43:59):
Oh, thank you, James.
SPEAKER_01 (44:01):
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