The Veteran Coach: Here's JP's Journey

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Transform your life through the lens of a veteran's journey from service to success. Engage in a powerful discussion that focuses on resilience, identity, and the importance of community support for veterans.

- The significance of mentorship in transitioning from military to civilian life
- Challenges faced during reintegration into society
- Building resilience and finding new purpose post-service
- The role of community in supporting veterans' journeys
- Personal success stories that illustrate recovery and transformation
- The importance of self-awareness and proactive decision-making
- Insight into the coaching techniques that promote holistic development
- Aspiring to create a supportive hub for veterans seeking change
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Warriors fall in.
It's time for formation.
Today, folks, I have awonderful guest that I'm just
eager for you to meet, if youhaven't already met him.
He is fairly popular in themilitary community on many
social media out there, so todayI'd like to welcome JP to the
Morning Formation podcast.
Today we're going to talk abouthis journey, mindset, coaching,

(00:22):
philosophy and his impact onthe community.
Jp- welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, what's going on, brother?
Thank you so much for having mehere.
I appreciate it.
It's a privilege and I've beenfollowing you for a while and I
was hoping one day this wouldhappen, so I'm happy we're here.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Man, the honor is all in this in the mic.
Honestly, dude, I know a lot ofpeople that have met you.
I have heard a lot of greatthings about you.
A lot of folks that you met atthe MIC this last year that I'm
familiar with, that I personallyknow.
So it's an honor.
On this end of the mic, man,and just kicking things off, I
just want you to share yourmilitary background with us.

(00:59):
What was your MOS and whatinspired you to join the
military?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Absolutely so.
I joined the military as soonas I turned 18.
And I joined the Marine Corpsbecause the commercial it just
got me right the sword, thedragon, all that cool stuff.
However, the reason why Ijoined the military isn't
because it's all I ever wantedto do.
Honestly, I made a lot ofmistakes growing up and I

(01:25):
rebelled.
I was involved in a lot ofstuff that I shouldn't have been
and I didn't really know what Iwanted to do with my life.
I was getting expelled,suspended.
I ended up going to fourdifferent high schools and
finally, at the last one, I meta teacher there who basically
told me that if you don't getyour life right, where are you
going to be in three, four, five, 10 years?
And I didn't know.
I didn't have an answer, and hetalked to me about the Marine

(01:47):
Corps and I ended up making thatdecision to join the Marine
Corps and I enlisted in 2008,went off to bootcamp, did the
0311 kind of route, and I didthat for a few years.
Went over to the West Coast.
I was with 3rd Battalion, 1stMarines deployed to Afghanistan.
In 2010, helmand Province cameback and I knew that the one

(02:11):
thing that I really wanted to dowhile I was in the Marine Corps
is I wanted to be a scoutsniper, so I did the INDOC and
was able to make it to the State.
Platoon Did that for a fewyears and, uh, I ended up
getting out of the military, soyeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, that's quite a journey.
Um, and when you went in, wewere well underway uh as far as
war.
I joined in 99, 98, technicallyinto 98, uh did uh the uh delay
entry and uh, that was before9-11.
So when you went in, that knewwell underway that you were
probably going to end up goingto Afghanistan or Iraq at some

(02:47):
point, right.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, so I had a cousin that joined the Army
right when 9-11 kicked off and Igot to experience that from his
point of view and he wasinjured.
He came home for a little bitand he went back and I never
knew that.
I didn't know that I was goingto necessarily follow in his
footsteps, but I did know thatwhen I did enlist I knew that I

(03:11):
wanted to become part ofsomething that actually meant
something For my entirechildhood.
I didn't really belong toanything.
I didn't do sports, I wasinvolved in games, so there's
that.
But that was a chapter in mylife that I wanted to close.
So I knew that I was doingsomething to become something
and to become part of somethingthat was a lot larger than

(03:31):
myself.
So I was well aware of that.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah you said you're involved in gangs.
Yeah, was this, uh, in chicagoyeah wow, but what a big
turnaround.
What do you, you think,inspired you to change course?
Was it your cousin, or was itany influence around you?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
It had a lot to do with my cousin for sure, but my
teacher was kind of the personthat really influenced me in the
right direction and I talked alot about him because he
actually came out to see megraduate when I graduated
bootcamp and we still keep intouch.
He was able to influence mebecause he went through the same
path.
He was also involved in Gainesgroup in Chicago and joined the

(04:08):
Marine Corps and then he alsobecame a law enforcement officer
when he got out and I'm surethat had a lot to do with why I
ended up kind of following thosesame footsteps as well.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
That mentorship is huge, man, and it's great that
you sort of made something ofyourself, because I always tell
people that when folks go outthere and they go to bat for you
, it's important for you to makeit worth their time and effort
to have done so.
What do you think while you'rein the military, what do you
think were some of the biggestlessons that you learned from
your military service that youstill carry with you today?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
So much man.
They were my formative years.
Honestly, I don't look back atthe military with a lot of anger
.
A lot of it has to do with youlearn lessons everywhere you go.
You learn good leadership, badleadership.
You learn discipline.
You learn consistency.
You learn what it means to beorganized.
Side note, which has a lot todo with this I had ADHD my

(05:06):
entire life but I was neverdiagnosed until I was 24.
When I went into the militaryit's organized.
You know what you're going tobe doing.
For the most part, you show upat a certain time, there's
someone there that tells youwhat you're doing and you have a
plan.
And that helped me a lotbecause I learned organization.
I learned how to be disciplinedand, honestly, what I loved
most about the Marine Corps isthat you really can make the

(05:27):
most of it.
And I went in with the mentalitylike I finally found my people.
I finally found a place where Ifelt that I belonged and I gave
it everything I had, frombootcamp to SOI to getting to my
platoon.
I always tried to do morebecause I really loved it.
I bought into the idea that Iwas a part of something and it
meant everything to me,everything that I carry to this

(05:51):
present day is influenced by theMarine Corps.
Now a lot of it has changed andit's been adapted over the
years.
I mean, even my leadershipstyle has changed, because I've
learned that you can't be thesame type of leader in the
military compared to getting outand treating people differently
.
So everything's been adaptedand changed.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But my foundation of who I am, the way that I operate
, the way that I even think kindof stems from the Marine Corps
for the most part wholestructure portion of it all,
because I I once heard anadministrator um for one of the
LA County schools here talkabout how she pushes um a lot of

(06:30):
the students away from themilitary because of it's the uh,
the history behind it and someof the stereotypes behind the
military.
But at the end of the day Ithink it there is a lot of value
because it kind of pushes youin your journey towards a
direction and gives you somemomentum towards life and
learning what life is really allabout and gets you outside your
comfort zone.
And I'm glad that you justmentioned about the transition

(06:51):
part.
You know when it comes toleadership and how you handle
folks in the military.
Would you mind just talking tofolks about how that transition
was for you, how you know if itwas a challenge for you and what
was the hardest part?
You know that you experiencedand how did you overcome that.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
So what's unique about this transition is that
you have to look at it from adifferent point of view, in my
opinion, and what I mean by thatis that, especially if you join
when you're 18, like most of usdo you're going to get out and
you're going to realize that youhave been in a culture that was
very formative your bestfriends, the people that were

(07:30):
your mentors, the people thatyou end up mentoring because you
do become a mentor, whether youknow it or not.
Everything that you know fromthe way that you talk or the way
that you walk, customs andcourtesies over a weekend it
goes away just like that.
And courtesies Over a weekendit goes away just like that.
And you're going into a newphase of your life.
Now, whether you move back homeor you end up staying where

(07:51):
you're at, a lot's going tochange, and I think the problem
is.
The problem that happened to mebecause this is what happened
to me is that I didn't realizethat the culture shift was going
to be so large and I didn't payattention to it.
So, because I didn't payattention to it, I kept
operating and working andtalking and acting the same way

(08:11):
that I did when I was in Becauseit served me so well when I was
in.
It served me so freaking wellwhen I was in that when I got
out I thought I will just be whoI am.
The problem is that you have tochange, you have to evolve, and
for me it didn't happen.
So I immediately got into arelationship that I was already
in, because it was the firstwoman that paid attention to me.

(08:32):
I was around a bunch of dudes, Iwas in the infantry and I
thought, well, this is what'snext.
I was very much in that mindsetof you know, we're preparing
for deployments, and then wedeploy, we come back, we do
another workup, x, y and Z.
And my mindset was the same way.
I thought that there were theserules that I had to follow of
like, okay, I'm out, I'm goingto go to school, I'm going to
use my BAH, I'm going to get ajob, probably as a law

(08:54):
enforcement officer, I'm dating,so I guess now I have to get
engaged.
That means I have to get ahouse and we have to get married
, and X, y or Z.
And I never took time to reallyfind out who I was.
I never took time to get toknow myself and to truly realize
that I wasn't evolving.
I was just staying stuck inthat same mentality, thinking

(09:16):
that things have to be a certainway, thinking that militaristic
kind of mindset is the thingthat's helping me because it's
served me so well,characteristic kind of mindset
is the thing that's helping mebecause it served me so well.
And all of that came crashingdown.
My first marriage ended in adivorce and I self-sabotaged a
lot.
And the transition is rough ifwe don't actually focus on it,

(09:38):
if we think we just keep doingwhat we're doing, if we keep
being the way we are, everythingwill work because it worked
before.
The problem is is that you haveto change who you are.
You have to learn that, likesociety is not going to change
for you.
You're a part of society.
Now you are the one that has tomake the changes in order to,
like, not just survive butthrive in society.
And I was that asshole.

(09:59):
I was that veteran that youknow always wore the veteran
stuff, always wore everything.
There's nothing wrong with that.
But the problem is that when itis your identity because that's
all you've known, and thosevery formative years, like they
were huge years yeah, you cannarrow it down and say, well,
it's a percentage of your life,but at the end of the day, like
those years, they were soformative.
I mean, looking back, I was incharge of a sniper team and

(10:22):
that's really cool.
But the thing is, when thatbecomes your identity and that's
all you talk about and that'sall that you think about, you
end up pushing people away.
And I did that.
I did that and I ignored myhealth.
I didn't get any sort of mentalhealth help.
I didn't want to talk aboutPTSD because I'm in law
enforcement, so I can't do that.
So I went into law enforcement.
So I can't do that.
So I went into law enforcementand, to be honest with you, I

(10:45):
love the law enforcementcommunity.
It's something that's very nearand dear to my heart, and I
didn't leave because I didn'tlike it anymore.
I left just because I knew thatit was the right move for me,
based on what I'm trying tobuild and create for my life.
But, to be honest as well, itprevented me from healing, and
the reason is a lot of the toolsthat the military gave me also

(11:08):
helped me succeed in lawenforcement.
I showed up early, I left late.
I wanted to write the mostsearch warrants.
I wanted to get to workundercover.
I loved it.
But my personal life wasfalling apart.
Went through a divorce.
I was drinking every night.
I was completely sabotaging myhealth.
I was smoking a Went through adivorce.
I was drinking every night.
I was completely sabotaging myhealth.
I was smoking a pack ofcigarettes a day.

(11:28):
I used to take the streets homeinstead of the highway because
I knew that there would be twoMcDonald's on the way home and
one of them would have the icecream machine working.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, Wow, you know, I love what you said, man.
You said a lot, but I love whatyou said about identity,
because I think that militaryfolks as well as law enforcement
have the same issue with that.
Your career can become youridentity and in all reality, you
have a character, you have abehavior like you are you.
I don't think that any uniformor any rank should be anyone's

(12:01):
identity.
I think that's what makes usall unique, leadership wise.
But I I love what you saidabout that and I've told other
folks about that as well, likeover the last.
Um, you know however many yearssince I've been out, man, it's
been freaking.
Almost 20 years since I joinedthe military, um, and you, when
you got out, you know you, yousaid you got out for reasons

(12:22):
because it was best of for whatyou're doing in your journey.
You know, and now, now youserve as a veteran coach.
Um, would you mind talkingabout, like, what inspired you
to become a veteran coach andwhat does that, what does that
title mean to you?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, absolutely so.
So I was working in lawenforcement and everything that
I ever wanted to do in lawenforcement I was able to get to
.
So the last role that I hadthat was.
My goal was to get to a unitwhere I would be able to work
undercover, and I was doing that, and then it was taken away

(12:55):
from us in a matter of mycontrol, and that's when they
moved us to a unit that it nolonger resonated with me.
I ended up working in masstransit and a great group of
guys over there and I love them.
It's the group of guys that Iworked with for almost the last
seven years, maybe even eight,but it just didn't sit well with

(13:16):
me that I gave everything thatI had and cost me a marriage,
cost me my personal life, andthey were able to just move me
wherever they wanted.
Now, with that being said, Ihad a decision to make Do I just
sit here and keep doing thisand live my life, or do I do
more?
And I just have it in me thatI'm very much of the mind that I

(13:37):
want to be able to do more,because if I have it in me and I
keep it inside, I have thisuntapped potential and I don't
want to live life with untappedpotential.
So at that point, about two anda half years ago, I made a
decision to start a business, acoaching business online.
Initially it wasn't going to begeared towards veterans and I
started it and I started doingit and I ended up hiring a
business coach and that reallyhelped a lot.

(13:59):
As I was doing it, I realizedthat, yes, it was enjoyable, but
it wasn't my passion, and Iremember that I wish I had
something like this.
When I got out, I remember thatI wish that I had something
that actually kept meaccountable, something that
would hold up that mirror to meand show me that it's not that I
can't do it alone.
It's just that there are tools,there are people, there are

(14:19):
mentors, there are communities,there are groups that are a
little bit ahead of you, thatcan tell you and remind you hey,
you're on this journey, butwe're going to stop for water
here.
We're going to tie up ourshoelaces here to make sure we
don't trip.
We're going to make sure thatwe stay away from the negativity
.
The positivity needs to comeinto our life more and more
often.
So I made a decision to kind ofrefit my business and I named it

(14:42):
VetRise Academy and I startedcoaching veterans.
It took off more than I knew itwould, even though, to be
honest with you, I am delusional, optimistic and I believe that
the world is completely full ofpossibilities.
And it's a mindset that I'veadopted over the past couple of
years, because I wasn't alwayslike this and as I started
coaching veterans, I started torealize that it's me speaking to

(15:04):
me, it's me speaking to where Iwas and the things that I wish
I would have heard and thethings I needed to hear.
And then, the more and more Idid it, the more and more I
became okay with beinguncomfortable with it, meaning
that I was willing to speak mymind a little bit more, I was
willing to be a little morecontroversial, I was willing to
say things in a different waythat maybe haven't been said

(15:25):
before.
And, honestly, there's so manyorganizations out there that are
wonderful, they're doingamazing work.
I think the disconnect happenswhen we don't get those services
, when we don't reach out forthe help, because we all know
that the mindset of the veterana lot of times it comes back to
that stoicism, that being sotough that they don't need help,

(15:47):
that I can figure it out on myown, that I'm self-reliant, I'm
capable and when I bring peopleinto the program when they start
I started I had four peoplejoin today One of the first
things that we do is we do anaudit of where we're at and we
start looking at everything.
It is not just about fitness.
Fitness is the baseline, it'sthe foundation of what we do,

(16:07):
but all of it is tied togetherand what it means to me to be a
veteran coach is that I want tohelp that veteran succeed in
society, like no matter what.
It started as a fitness programand it's evolved throughout the
years and it's become thisbeautiful, freaking thing where
we have community people, we docoaching calls every week, we
support each other, there'speople that are on this journey
that can help other people whojust got out and, honestly, it's

(16:30):
one of the most beautifulthings.
We're going to have our veryfirst in-person event for all of
our clients in August inChicago and I'm really excited
about that.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's awesome, man, that you built something that
you wish you had.
I think that's impactful.
A lot of people talk, they talkabout things, but nobody ever
executes.
Usually it's just somethingthat sounds nice.
So, as far as the program thatyou have and the coaching that
you do about approximately howmany folks do you have in there
right now and is there room formore?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, absolutely so.
We just actually crossed the 50member threshold recently
because we ended up getting avideo that went viral on IG and
we're all over.
But, yes, we do have spots formore people in the coming months
.
I wouldn't say selective of whowe bring in, but I want to make
sure that it's people who aretruly ready to make a permanent

(17:22):
change in their life.
There's people that needtherapy.
There's people that need to dosome self-work.
There's people that are notready to make that change.
But, yeah, we're definitelyhave spot for people.
If that's something thatsomeone is interested in, feel
free to reach out and we'll havea conversation.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I really appreciate it about you because I'm going
to tell you, right now, I see alot of people out there selling
their programs to people thataren't ready, and if you're not
screening folks, then you're notbeing authentic and you're not
being genuine.
If you're just taking theirmoney and giving them coaching
or a template or something likethat, I mean that is a scam.
At the end of the day, you needto prepare people and make sure

(17:59):
that they are ready for you.
Need to prepare people and makesure that they are ready for
you.
You know you were so popular,uh, a couple of months ago that
I saw they had um kind of umfabricated your your video, yeah
, yeah.
So what, what, what?
What was the deal with that?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Man, Uh, so I made a video a long time ago and the
first couple of words they, theytwisted everything, so they
used they used the first threeof words.
They twisted everything.
So they used the first threelines where I said something
about like veterans are notentitled to shit, and then I
went on to say that you'veearned it right, so, like it's.
The video was, the original wasdifferent one.

(18:34):
And then a bunch of peoplestart sending me this video
saying, hey, is this you?
And I'm like, well, that's me,that's not me.
No-transcript.

(19:07):
You know that that it's getting.
My voice is getting out thereagain.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, I mean that that means you're, you're,
you're getting some attention.
Yeah, that was wild.
Yeah, I remember seeing that.
I was like that is wild.
Is AI man at AI at its finest.
Yeah, wild as AI man at AI atits finest.
It's kind of scary.
Um, no man.
I.
I really, I really dig whatyou're talking about.
Um, you know the the journeyoverall, I think interviewing
you and interviewing all thefolks I've interviewed as a part
of my journey too, um and I'mI'm always evolving, always

(19:34):
trying to get better, and it'staken quite quite some time.
Do you think that when youhired the business coach, that
was the game changer, that kindof elevated your mindset, gave
you some clarity on how toproperly do the whole coaching
program?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, absolutely Honestly, I believe that you
have to build.
So I'll put it to you this wayYou're not your environment.
You get to create yourenvironment Wherever you are at.
You get to create theenvironment In the military.
You get to choose who you hangout with, what NCOs you look up
to, what type of leaders yousurround yourself with when you

(20:10):
get out.
It's the same way.
Now I'll tell you right now,most of my mentors I've never
met.
I've built my repertoire ofmentors based on who I believe
is in a position to guide me inthe right direction.
I listen to a lot of podcasts.
I have my list of people that Ienjoy listening to, and when I
found my business coach, what hesaid spoke to me and I believe

(20:34):
in diving all in.
If you're trying to do allthese things at once, if you're
trying to be a jack of alltrades, you're not going to
fully dive into something.
You can't tell yourself thatyou're committed if you're only
interested.
So I saw his videos.
He spoke to me, I reached outto him and a lot of the stuff
that got me to join his program,the way that he went about

(20:56):
running his business.
I've applied that directly tomy business.
For me, it was the fact that heactually sent me a voice
message when we were talking, soI knew it was him.
It wasn't someone that he waspaying to do this.
And since I joined this program,I mean, the business has just
taken off.
He teaches us everything fromhow to make videos to how to
edit them, how to hire a team,and since then it's been nonstop

(21:20):
growth.
And every event that he has, Igo to it.
Every single time that he hasan event, I'm there and I will
continue to be there, becausethe value that I get from him
isn't just here this is how youdo it.
It's the fact that there's acommunity of people that are
very like-minded that I get tobe a part of.
So a lot of the stuff that hedoes, the coaching calls that he

(21:42):
does, I've adopted a lot ofthat into my business and I've
become a better person, a betterleader, just because I get to
see someone that is furtherahead along than I am, and
that's where I do want to be oneday.
So, yeah, I do think that youneed to find people that are a
little bit further along thanwhere you are and truly lean

(22:05):
into it, be willing to pay, bewilling to invest.
We spend so much money on stuffthat we don't need, yet we're
not willing to invest insomething that is actually for
you.
So I remember this is a littlebit of a mindset shift that
happened to me the second eventthat I was going to as I was on
the plane flying over, it's inCanada.
They have most of their eventsin Canada.

(22:26):
I remember thinking of how muchmoney I've spent in this program
and I realized I didn't spendthis money on this program.
I didn't spend this money onhim, I'm spending it on me.
This is growth that's happeninghere.
This is the fact that everytime I go to an event, I come
back and the business doubles insize because of something that
I learned, like this is for me.
And that was a huge mindsetshift because I realized that I

(22:47):
spend so much money on stuffthat I don't need, I don't want,
and now I've realized that whenyou pay for something, it's
about what you're going to getout of it, right.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, totally, and it's all about it and and using
it to its fullest potential.
And man, what you talked aboutas far as kind of having your
circle is your strength.
Um, you know, I always say likeif you have a circle of idiots
around you, that also makes youan idiot as well.
Um, that's, that's reallyinteresting to hear that that
you, that that was kind of thegame changer for me.

(23:19):
I've heard that same feedbackfrom other folks that were kind
of stuck in a on a plateau andlooking to try to elevate.
Just to bring things back tothe coaching and talking about
veterans, you know a lot ofveterans out there struggle with
purpose after service.
How do you help veteransrediscover themselves and their
their passion and just help themwith their direction?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Great question and, honestly, I think one of the
reasons, personally, why a lotof veterans have that issue is
because, for the longest, one ofthe main ways that they feel of
use is to be useful to otherpeople, to be able to serve
other people, to be able to giveand give and give, and that
mentality doesn't go away whenyou get out, and it's not that

(24:07):
it's the wrong mentality, butit's not conducive for building
a life for yourself and a lot ofveterans.
They get out and one of thefirst things that they do is
they want to give back, theywant to find a way to continue
to be of help, and then they getinto this rhythm, this pattern,
this never-ending cycle ofover-volunteering, of giving and

(24:27):
giving and giving, of trying todo everything for everybody
else, and in the process theydon't find who they are.
They don't take that time toslow down a little bit, to try
some new hobbies, to maybe makefriends with people that aren't
veterans, people that have adifferent way of thinking.
They don't expand and I thinkthat's one of the biggest issues

(24:49):
is because we get into thiskind of like mentality of
everybody is this way or, ifthey're not, they're not someone
I want to have around me, andthere's different ways of
creating that passion and thatdrive and that, honestly,
purpose for yourself.
And it could be becoming partof a, you know, training jujitsu
or joining a group of peoplethat does something that you've
never done before and gettingout of your comfort zone.

(25:11):
And the thing is like, when youtry these things, when you put
yourself into a different placeand when you try and create that
new passion or that new driveor that new business idea,
whatever it is, you have to goall the way in.
You can't tiptoe that shit, youcan't kind of find out what it's
about.
No, like you have to buy intoit.
Because in the back of yourmind, if you don't truly give

(25:32):
yourself permission to find outeverything that you can about it
and give it everything you have, in the back of your mind there
will be that little voice thatcontinues to talk yourself out
of truly succeeding in that areaof your life.
And I say this because a lot ofpeople reach out to me and they
ask me about starting abusiness or doing this or that.
They have all these ideas and Isee time and time again I've

(25:54):
spent time and time again havingconversations and they have
this idea, but the thing is theydon't want to dive all the way
in because they're nervous aboutthis or they don't know enough
about this.
When you dive all the way in,you find out about it.
You do it like no matter what.
All it takes is all you gothippie, are you talking to me?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
yeah, I mean at the end of the day, honestly, man,
like it's a lot of the thingsyou're saying, I, I'm.
I've learned a lot in this lastlike 30 minutes about myself,
man, man, so this is an honor onmy end because you're talking
about me right now, like this istotally me, everything that
you're talking about.
When I left service, you know,I had to find something that was
still serving the public, soulfulfilling.

(26:33):
It wasn't self-fulfilling asmuch.
It's always about God andcountry, sometimes Right, and I
always tell people that, andsometimes it is, but sometimes
you have to take care ofyourself too.
And, and I love what you talkedabout, man, everything from
what you're talking about with,like meeting, meeting in the
middle, like you, I find a lotof veterans sometimes want to
say that the world doesn'tunderstand me and it's like, why

(26:56):
don't you try to understand theworld?
How about you go meet them inthe meadow, meet them in the
middle somewhere and try tounderstand their perspectives?
Um, and maybe that won't driveyou, you know, as crazy.
Uh, when, when you look atthings that way, um, overall,
man, I, man, I'm so glad I didthis interview because, overall,
I'm telling you like everythingyou just said was exactly how I

(27:17):
am, but you're coaching.
Would you mind breaking downyour coaching approach and what
are the key principles that youfocus on when you're working
with veterans?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, absolutely, and I'm happy that you said that
I've done a lot of work oneverything.
I'm a nerd when it comes tothis kind of thing, so, like
I've done a lot of work on wordsand the delivery and the method
, and all of that applies to thecoaching and I've learned a lot
throughout the years.
The coaching program continuesto evolve every single day,

(27:50):
every single week.
So right now we have a one-yearmembership and most people end
up doing that one because theywant to see that long
transformation.
It's broken down by phases,right.
Initially, we start by justbuilding that self-awareness and
then starting to audit yourlife and seeing where you're at.
Every individual has adifferent story.
Every individual has differentthings that they need and it is
customized for them, so thefitness is going to be made for

(28:11):
them.
However, if you guys look at mysocials, I don't spend a lot of
time doing workout videos.
Why?
Well, because we know what it'slike to be in the gym.
For the most part, nutrition.
We can get there if everythingelse falls in line.
So, like, nutrition and fitnessare the foundation of what we
do, and we get you on a programand we start tracking your meals
and we start teaching you howto intuitively eat, how to build

(28:32):
a good relationship with food,how to make sure that you
understand that everything thatyou do affects everything else
in your life, right?
So we start just by auditingyour life, by looking at where
you're at, and there areveterans that definitely need
that reset of that kind ofreminder of like you have to
stop drawing that line in thesand between you and society,

(28:53):
like you're a part of societynow, and sometimes that's the
starting point.
Sometimes we have veterans thatjoin that they're a little bit
further along their journey andfor them it's more of like they
have to get back to thatdiscipline.
And whenever they bring up theword discipline, everyone loves
that word and it's a great word.
The problem with discipline isthat we think that we just go
into it automatically.
We think that we can just buildthis robot mindset because
we've had it before when we were18, 20, we freaking, operated,

(29:14):
we woke up, we did what we hadto do, we could run a freaking
PFT, like whatever.
The problem with that is that,as life happens, other things
start to take priority in yourlife and that made sense
Children, a relationship, yourjob.
We start to lose a little bitof that discipline because we
forget why it was so important.
So the real thing that we focuson, the real D word that I like

(29:38):
to really bring up a lot, isdevotion.
Why are we doing this?
Why is this important to you?
Why do you want to be healthy?
And it's not because you wantto do a PFT.
It's because you want to beable to walk your daughter down
the aisle instead of possiblylosing a foot because you've
been eating so terribly for solong that you're developing
issues.
It's because you want to makesure that you are an inspiration

(30:01):
to your children.
It's because you want to makesure that you and your wife have
a good relationship.
It's because you want to makesure that you are an inspiration
to your children.
It's because you want to makesure that you and your wife have
a good relationship.
It's because you want to getthat promotion at work.
And you understand, because wetalk about this, that the way
that you do one thing is the waythat you do everything.
So they joined the program.
We have coaching calls where wetalk about negative self-talk,
limiting self-beliefs, usingyour calendar as a map, making
sure that you're organized,learning your calendar as a map,

(30:28):
making sure that you'reorganized, learning that
building your habits doesn'tjust happen overnight.
You have to not only removesomething negative, but you have
to put something positive inits place, and that applies for
everywhere.
If you remove someone from yourtable, a negative person from
your table that doesn't deserveto be there, one of those five
idiot friends, you have toreplace that person with
somebody else that does deserveto be there.
You have to make space forsomeone at least.
And we focus on all thesethings the mindset,
accountability, the right way.
This isn't like a drillinstructor program.

(30:48):
I don't yell at you, eventhough my clients might say
otherwise.
We made sure that youunderstand why this is important
.
We build that devotion to changeand we do biweekly check-ins to
make sure that you're actuallymaking progress.
And we gauge everything.
We look at all the data and asyou go through the program, you
go through different phases.
We focus on your habits, wefocus on your routines, we focus

(31:09):
on everything, and the numberone thing that I always tell my
clients when we start to look atall the data is that you can't
always look forward.
Sometimes we have to look backto understand why this is
happening.
So I'll give you an example.
We have a client, and I'll callthem Joe.
Joe continuously misses hisworkouts on Mondays and, before
we know it, on Friday he ends upself-sabotaging and he binge

(31:32):
eats.
It's not, hey, you have to stopbinge eating or you have to
start going to the gym on Monday.
It's what's happening on Sundaythat is preventing you from
waking up with energy to go tothe gym on Monday.
And we look at that and westart making changes.
On Sunday, same with Friday.
What is the emotional thing orwhat is the thing that's
happening that's making you feelthis way, and we tackle that.

(31:53):
That's the real problem.
And when you look at stuff likethat, you can address the fact
that maybe it's the ego, maybeit's some of that veteran
baggage that you've brought withyou, maybe it's the fact that
you feel that you can't ask forhelp because of the way that the
military raised you, because itwas needed then.
You needed to be that onefive-man fire, four-man fire

(32:14):
team, four-man fire team thatneeds to exist on, and if
something came down to you, youwere in charge of it.
You had to figure it out and wekind of like not necessarily
take that away, but it's more ofreframing it, that this is a
team environment.
You have to be willing to speakup.
You have to be willing to tomake permanent changes by
understanding why this isimportant Devotion.
That's what it comes down to inmy opinion.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, that's huge man , I could see how you would be a
huge help in helping veteransget unstuck in their, in their
hamster wheel and and I lovewhat you said about discipline,
and I always tell people all thetime that offer up is the best
place to purchase, like any typeof, like podcasting, any kind
of video items, because it'skind of the the land of uh, of

(32:58):
broken dreams, you know,unfortunately, and I always tell
people you can't buy disciplineon Amazon.
Um, you, you know that'ssomething that you have to
create yourself and you have tofigure out how to discipline
yourself, and you know that'swhen success happens is um, not
just motivation, but disciplineand um devotion is even deeper
than that.
Your reason why, how do you,how do you help your clients

(33:23):
build those sustainable habits?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Everything comes down to paying attention to what
happens when you do and when youdon't.
So when we get them in theprogram, we immediately want
them to start having some wins.
We want them to make sure thatthey are just making forward
progress.
We get them to join a coachingcall right away to start making
some small, little incrementalchanges, even if it comes down

(33:49):
to sleep optimization, puttingthat cell phone on a charger
across the room or even outsideof the room, making sure that
they're not staying up latewatching TV, the little wins
like that even going to the gymand getting a workout in and
then paying attention to how youfeel afterwards, the
self-awareness and like reallypaying attention to that moment

(34:13):
it can develop a new core memoryof like what it feels to do the
right thing.
So so many times, so many times, we focus on the negative of
life of like.
I know what it feels like tofeel sad.
I know what it feels like tonegative of life of like.
I know what it feels like tofeel sad.
I know what it feels like tofeel out of shape.
I know what it feels like tofeel depressed.
We forget what it feels like tofeel great like.
We forget what it feels like toto, you know, run that pft and

(34:35):
finish it and feel like you know, holy shit, I'm done with the
pft, but I I crushed it.
Or I slept really well and Iwoke up and because of that I
decided to take a cold shower.
And because of the cold shower,I have a clear mind and because
of that, you know what I canmake that appointment at the VA
that I haven't made in threemonths.
Or I can decide that I'm goingto put my name in for the

(34:57):
promotion at work.
Or you know what?
I'm making the decision that Idon't want to drink every
weekend, so I'm going to startto save up money so I can move
out of my parents' basement.
So, like, that's that's whereit comes down to of, like paying
attention to what the result is, of of doing the hard thing and
understanding that, like,sometimes the mood is not going
to be what you want it to be,but the mood will follow, cause

(35:18):
I guarantee you, like nobody hasever felt shitty after an
amazing workout, right, like,yeah, you feel like your heart's
about to explode sometimes, butthe thing is like you feel
alive and sometimes, like weforget that A lot of veterans
forget that because, for one,you were forced to do it for the
longest and that's the thingthat I don't think a lot of
people realize like when youwere forced to do it you think

(35:39):
that freedom means I'm not goingto do it anymore, nobody's
forcing me to do it.
But now you got to do it foryourself.
Now you have to do it for yourkids, now you have to do it for
the life that you're trying tobuild, because that was me.
All of this was me.
I didn't work out why.
Because you know what I don'thave to wake up early.
I don't want to go for afreaking three mile run because
I don't have to do that.
The problem was that it wasn'tfor anybody else, it was for me

(36:03):
and I wasn't doing that.
So, to kind of answer thequestion and finish it off
nicely here, we just try andtruly help them with the
self-awareness.
We celebrate wins, big or small, because we want them to start
building that library ofpositive moments of like.
You know what?
Last week I wanted to go drinkbecause my boys called me, and I

(36:26):
know what it feels like to dothat.
But this time I actually set myalarm of when I'm going to go
to bed.
I did everything right and Iwoke up.
I did my check-in with coachand I went for a hike and, holy
shit, I feel alive for the firsttime in a long time.
And then, with that, we justkeep building on it.
We keep building those positivefreaking moments to show them

(36:47):
what's possible for them and somany truths, uh, that you just
mentioned right there.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
This is probably the most powerful conversation that
I've had in this extremely longtime.
Oh man, appreciate that so muchno, I mean it, it's fascinating
.
I'm so glad that I was able toget this, get this in today.
Um, the, the self-awarenesspart of it, all I, I.
That speaks to me.
Um, I started doing Brazilianjujitsu for that reason.
I was going through goingthrough a tough time, going

(37:15):
through a divorce, I knew I hadtwo choices.
I could either go to the bar uh, on Friday, saturdays, you know
, whenever I'm off, or whateveror I could go to the gym and
with my wrestling background, Ijust thought, well, I'll go to,
I'll go to Brazilian jujitsu andum with, with something like
that, you have to go two tothree times a week.
You have to in order to improve.
So that forced me into the gymand then it made me, like you

(37:39):
know, build this team of familymembers around me that I wasn't
related to by blood but that Iwas related to through through
fighting and um, thatself-awareness, part of it all
is what got me through, has hasgotten me through all these
years.
Whenever I'm going through atough time and I love what you
said about business versus themilitary, it's part of my intro

(38:01):
when I talk about you know whathappens with a cadence fades and
you're no longer wearing thatuniform.
Nobody's telling you when topivot and how to pivot.
You have to tell yourself thatnow you have to get yourself up.
No one, no NCOs coming to yourdoor to tell you, hey, it's time
for a run, nothing like that.
So that's, that's huge, thatyou're helping folks build that
out.
And you often, you know, goingthrough some of your materials,

(38:21):
you often about resilience.
Can you talk about a personalmoment that you had where you
had to push through someadversity and actually apply
that resilience to your own life?
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
I believe that resilience is something that
people think they either have orthey don't.
It's something that you buildand sometimes resilience just
means that you get back upfaster this time than you did
last time when you fell.
And for me personally, it'ssomething that I've been working
on deliberately throughout theyears and I've never been as
good as I am now, but the thingis, I'm going to keep getting

(38:56):
better.
It keeps building and for me,there's a lot of moments in my
life that I've felt like it's atool that I lean back on and for
me, looking towards the futureand what's possible, is the
reason why I can't get back up.
It's because I don't sit in themoment, I don't dwell in it.
When I started my business,almost immediately I ended up

(39:22):
going through a second divorce,and this is something I talk
about openly because it's thetruth, it's history and, to be
honest, there's nothing wrongwith vulnerability because it
opens up people to get to knowyou and for them to open up to
you.
So, as I'm going through someof the biggest personal growth
building a business, trying tobuild it large enough to where I
can leave my law enforcementjob because that's the plan and

(39:44):
I'm going to follow it, nomatter what Started going
through another divorce.
It was very tumultuous.
I ended up losing basically myhouse, for the most part because
the person I was going througha divorce with, she stayed in
the house and I was living outof one bedroom and it was a very
hard time.
It was a very dark time.

(40:04):
But there was moments.
There was times when I didn'twant to go to the gym, I didn't
want to work on myself, I didn'twant to show up to the coaching
calls that I had to give myclients and sometimes in those
moments you do have to go onautopilot.
You have to just be able toturn it on and do the thing and
then feel however you feelafterwards.
And I did that.
So I continued to show up.
I was doing the coaching calls.

(40:25):
I was still trying my very bestto make it to the gym, even if
it was just for maintenance atthe time and survival at the
time.
I knew that one day this wouldend, meaning that one day I
would feel that liberation, oneday I would get my house back.
One day I'd be able to be whereI'm at right now and have an
entire office in my basement,because nothing lasts forever.

(40:46):
The pain that I feel right nowis temporary and sometimes you
have to remember, sometimespressure is a privilege, because
I'll tell you right now, when Iwent through that, I had such
tremendous personal growth that,like, just because you're
feeling it right now, justbecause you're going through
right now, doesn't mean that itwill always be like this, and

(41:07):
you have to keep looking at thehorizon, you have to keep
thinking about what you'retrying to create, what you're
trying to do, and that kept medevoted, that kept me resilient,
that kept me relentless in mypursuit of making sure that I
would come out on the other sideof it without falling and not
being able to get back up.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, nobody should ever be ashamed of life.
I mean, life is life, like nomatter how many divorces you
went through.
I, you know, back when I was inthe military myself, I always
said there's two types ofwarriors.
There's a textbook warriors andthen there's a warriors with
the battle scars that are stillstanding here, and I would take
advice from folks that havelived life versus someone that's
read it in the book.
You know I've got so manyquestions for you and I know we
have an hour and I want to getinto entrepreneurship, fitness,
all this stuff, community impact, so I hope I get an opportunity

(41:46):
to get you back on the showagain.
But I want to talk about someof the folks that have actually
taken your coaching.
What's one of the mostrewarding transformations that
you've seen, somebody thatyou've coached?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
So one of the most rewarding transformations that
I've seen from someone I'vecoached, um, I'll give you two
examples, because they're both.
They're both pretty freakingawesome um.
So shout out to, uh, conroy andto carlos, I think they'll like
this.
So conroy and he he openly,openly, openly talks about this
because it's something he'sproud of.
So conroy joined the programand he had been following for a
while.
He's he's been watching myvideos and finally he made the

(42:22):
decision and he started tofinally build his confidence,
something that he never had.
And, to be honest, we could talkabout the fact that he lost 30
pounds.
He's in the best shape of hislife, he's been able to do
things that he never thoughthe'd be able to physically do.
The guy wakes up, he takes acold shower and he freaking
attacks his day, right.
But to be honest with you, thething that matters most to me is
that Conroy lost his job andwithin the same day, he was able

(42:45):
to get a better job.
And he completely said that itwas because he built confidence,
that he never thought he wouldhave to actually speak up for
himself, ask for help, andwithin the same day, he got a
better job.
And to me, that was just.
It was amazing, because a lotof people can't do that.
A lot of people they go intothis dark place and I was just
very proud of the fact that thathappened for him.

(43:05):
So I see that as one of thebiggest success stories in my
program because, to be honest,building confidence is sometimes
a very hard thing to do whenyou don't know where or how to
build it.
And I want to talk about Carlostoo, because Carlos went through
a divorce and he realized thatbecause he was going through
this, that is when he needed tofocus on himself the very most,

(43:26):
not because he needed to findanother partner or because he
needed to become a betterversion for other people, but it
was for himself.
So he was able to come out ofit.
He's on the other side of it.
He's in the best shape of hislife, he's doing great work and
he's doing some amazing thingsin his life, and I'm really
proud of him.
He actually just bought an icebarrel because he wants to start
doing cold plunges as well.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, I saw you doing that man.
I have a couple of friends thatdo that.
The whole ice bath thing.
That's insane to me.
I don't know.
It's amazing, man, it's amazing.
Just real, briefly, man, howhas that transformed you?

Speaker 2 (43:59):
So I started doing that about two years ago and I
do it every day.
Now hit and miss a couple ofdays where I don't do it, but I
still do a cold shower.
So the reason why I do the icebarrel in the morning is because
it's the hardest thing of myday and if I can do that,
everything else it'll be afreaking breeze.
This like watch that it'llshock you in the morning if you

(44:26):
don't wake up Right.
So I'm gifted because I'm avery deep sleeper.
I have a good sleep cycle, butsometimes in the morning it's
hard for me to wake up.
So I have this thing and it goesoff in the morning and I have
30 seconds to make it to my doorto scan a QR code, so it
doesn't shock me.
And then I'm right there and Ijump in my ice barrel and I do
three minutes and it's beenlife-changing because it
releases serotonin into thebrain.

(44:47):
It helps with recovery, helpswith your immunity, it helps
with everything.
But honestly, the number onething, the number one benefit,
is that it is freaking hard andif you do that, if you can power
through it, if you can mentallywithstand that, nothing else
can really get to you.
Doing that has been a gamechanger for me, as far as

(45:08):
anxiety, as far as depression,as far as even getting headaches
and migraines.
It's a game changer for me.
I recommend it to everybody.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I'm originally from Hawaii, so I don't know if
that's for me, man, I mean, I'lltry it.
There's a few guys at work thatdo it.
You should give it a try.
Yeah, I know I'm.
It's, it's get, it's becomingmore and more convincing, uh,
day by day and I think, andoverall, you know I, by the way,

(45:39):
I don't want to scan over it,but congratulations to Carlos
and Conroy with those big wins,um, those big wins, especially,
you know, finding the same jobthe same day.
You know that's self-awareness.
Like you know, you have achoice go to the bar or get back
on the horse again and figureit out, you know.
So that's huge.
You know, in the next five to10 years, where do you see the
veteran coach brand going?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Good question a good question, and then that's five
to ten years.
I want to grow this brand, this, this, this organization so
large to where we're the thenumber one coaching company out
there for veterans.
Not to take away from anyoneelse.
There's a lot of people doingsome amazing stuff out there and
I support all of them, but Iwant to be able to be that

(46:23):
transition program for veteranswhen they get out, that they
immediately kind of think aboutjoining our program.
We have a lot of people that dothat.
We have people that joinimmediately after leaving the
military, because I want thereto be that community.
I want there to be that hub ofpeople that are actually working
towards something.
I think one of the things thathappens is people join these

(46:45):
Facebook groups that are veteranfriendly and it's just an echo
chamber.
It's an echo chamber where thesame negative thing gets
complained about, talked about,blah, blah blah.
It doesn't help you, in myopinion, and there's a lot of
great ones out there.
Nothing against them but I wantto be able to help veterans get
out of the service and realizethat they're not alone, to have

(47:06):
people that are there to guidethem.
I want to be able to bring inmore and more coaches that focus
specifically on a certain thingresume building, even
transitioning out, working oneverything.
I want to make it the hub whereveterans can come to and have
that veteran reset, not justlike a long-term transition, but
a reset to where they startrealizing like all right, I need

(47:28):
to check my ego.
This is one thing I have tochange.
All right, we have to stillwork on our fitness.
All right, this is next in lifeand then get to find out who
they are and build out theirlives.
And, as far as me, I hope to bespeaking on stages in front of
hundreds of people one day,thousands of people.
I really it's on my visionboard and I believe in vision
boards, so that's kind ofsomething that I'm speaking out

(47:49):
into the world.
So, yeah, that's that's kind ofwhere I see myself Um 10 years.
I don't know, I mean more andmore, right?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
No, you seem like you're on the right track, man.
You're doing all the rightthings, you're disciplined,
you're devoted, most importantlywhich is something that I
pulled out of our earlierconversation and it enjoys.
It's a big thing for me to helpspread awareness for people
like you, who are very genuineand authentic, and I've been
following you for a while aswell, and I've heard a lot of
great things about you.
I know you're at the MIC.

(48:15):
I know you met Jenna, themillennial veteran and you met.
Like so many other folks that Iknow I was supposed to be there
as well but just due to, like,work and time constraints and
everything, I couldn't make itdown there.
And I love how you're helpingout the community and for any
veteran out there that'slistening right now that might
be feeling stuck.
What's the first step theyshould take in turning things

(48:36):
around?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
The first step you have to do, in my opinion, to
turn things around is you haveto understand that you are where
you are at because of everydecision you've made.
You are responsible foreverything in your life.
Whether it's someone that'sdoing something to you, you
allowed that relationship toexist.
You allowed that person intoyour life.
If it's a job that you don'tlike, you took that job.
If it's anything at all, youare responsible for where you

(49:02):
are at.
But the nice thing about that,the beautiful thing about that,
is that that means that you canbe in a different place tomorrow
if you start making differentdecisions today, and a lot of
people don't want to take thatownership.
A lot of people want to put theblame on someone else, because
then it's easy to say that, well, I have no control over this, I
can't do anything about it.
But that's the beautiful thingabout it is that you do have
control.
You can change your day-to-dayby doing that ownership piece

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and just truly fucking sayingI'm going to change my life, and
sometimes it's going to be bybrute force.
Sometimes you have to be insuch a bad place that it burns
and it freaking hurts to staythere and get to that point and
you're comfortable and you tellyourself well, it could be worse
, or you know it's all right, orI'm living day by day Like
that's the dangerous place,that's the place that you don't

(49:48):
want to be, because that meansthat you don't have any reason
to change.
So for anyone that's in a placeright now, if you're not happy
where you're at, you truly haveto understand that.
You need to truly like tellyourself the truth that you are
unhappy where you are at, andthen you have to do something to
change it, whatever it is.
Start working out, startwalking, change your habits,
wake up early, go to bed on time.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Like the little things do matter, because they
do stack up and, before you knowit, you will start to transform
your life little by little hugeright there talking about you
need to be responsible for thefolks that are in your life and
what, what you allow them to doto you.
Um, a lot of folks want toblame other people for those,
for those types of things that Ican man, I'm sure, like I can

(50:29):
go down the list talk about myown life and the people that
I've had to cut out.
Uh, just to build myself to bewhere I'm at today, jp, what
would you say?
Uh, what's your quote or mantra?
Mantra that keeps you goingwhen things get tough.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Fuck your mood, follow the plan.
It's one of the ones that's beenresonating with me lately.
I apologize for the vulgarity,but I saw that in the past two
months and it's something that Ikeep saying to myself over and
over again, because I'm a humanbeing, I have feelings, I have
emotions, things happen, but thething is, if I want to get to a
different place, if I want tocompletely continue to continue

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leveling up, I cannot allow themomentary mood to dictate the
actions that I take, because themood will follow, and if you
would have asked me that threeor four or five months ago, it
might've been different.
But right now, in the phase oflife that I am at, because of
the growth that we're having,the growth that I want to
continue to have the momentarymood, the feeling of loneliness,

(51:29):
because right now I'm on thislonely journey where my best
friends, the guys that I workedwith for the past seven years, I
don't get to see them every daylike I used to.
And I'm on this kind of lonelyjourney and that's okay, that
that's part of, you know, life.
It's supposed to be this way.
And right now, like you knowexcuse my language, but like
fuck your mood, follow the plan.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
You have to have a plan that's big enough, that
matters enough, that your moodis not going to be the thing
that derails it no, I don't careabout the vulgarity, it's, it's
impactful, it's impactful man,it's deep and that's and it's,
it's to the heart, and this hasbeen the most powerful
conversation that I've had, nextto the conversation I had with

(52:10):
my own father when I starteddoing this whole podcasting
thing, man.
So thank you, jp.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
It means a lot to me, man.
Thank you for saying that itmeans a lot to me.
I really appreciate this.
This has been a lot of fun,thank you it has been man.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Just one last thing you know, if, if you could train
or coach with any body or anyhistorical figure, military,
otherwise who would it be andwhy?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
this is a good question if I could train or
coach with anybody, any evenhistorical figures.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Could be someone from that's not even here anymore.
But who would it be and why?

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I think that if I could train or or coach with
anyone, if I could train withanyone, I think I would really
love to to be able to.
This is a tough question.
There's just so many people.
Um, I'm a huge fan of jordanpeterson.
I think that I would love totrain or coach with him.

(53:09):
Um, his book saved my life.
It was.
It was the first thing that Iread when I actually realized
that because of his book, the 12rules for life I, uh I was.
That was the first thing, thatfirst thing that started making
me realize that I am in chargeof how I treat people and how I
am, and I started takingownership over that.

(53:30):
So I really believe that hismentality, his mindset, politics
aside, I think that he is oneof the most impactful people
that has been in my life.
He's a mentor of mine and hedoesn't even know me Well.
I did meet him once at an eventthat he he was at, but yeah,
that that I guess he'd be thenumber one.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
That's a, that's a man of high, high accountability
right there.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
For sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Almost.
It's almost too much for a lotof people out there to accept
that accountability.
So folks out there that arelistening, uh, where can they
find you and learn about yourcoaching programs?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Absolutely so.
I'm on all socials.
We just launched a website.
I don't know if it's live, so Idon't know if I can give out
the link yet but any socials.
Jp the veteran coach.
I have a podcast as well.
It's called the Vet RisePodcast and if they want to be
part of the program, if theywant to learn more about that,
they can either hit the link inany one of my bios or just send
me.
Send me a DM with the wordveteran and we'll have a

(54:24):
conversation.
That sounds awesome man.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
JP, was there anything that you also wanted to
mention before we rounded outthis, uh, this episode?
Anything that you want tomention that I didn't talk about
, that you want to throw outthere for everyone?

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Oh, I just I really appreciate this opportunity.
It's been fun, it's been a,it's been a blast.
Uh, I guess if there's onething that I would love to share
, it's just that you know, ifanyone that's listening is on a
lonely journey.
I want you guys to change thatperspective and think that, well
, you finally have enoughfreedom to figure out who you
are.
You've removed people from yourlife that no longer serve you,

(54:59):
and it means that it opens upthe world of possibilities for
what's possible for you, andthat's that's something that I
say out loud to to everybodylistening, because that's
something that I need right now,that we all need.
So, um, yeah, that's.
That's my low little piece ofadvice.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
This entire uh hour long episode has been like a
therapy or coaching session,even for myself.
You, you've, it's almost likeyou're talking to me, man, and
we're not doing a show here.
So I really appreciate that.
I'll make sure that I uh putyour links down in the uh uh,
down in the description or theshow notes.
So if you're listening to this,make sure you scroll down to
the bottom and click on thelinks.

(55:33):
Follow JP.
Um, super highly inspirational,uh, professional man.
I mean.
I I knew I had to get you onthe show at some point and I'm
so happy that we were able toconnect and I hope that you'd be
willing to come on againbecause I have so many more
questions for you.
Man, I want to pick your brain.
I highly respect you and Iappreciate everything you're
doing for the community.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Yeah, I'd love to come back on.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
No, it'd be my honor man For everyone else out there.
I'm glad you were able to tuneinto this very powerful episode.
Um, I'm hoping to have JP backon again, uh, to do some more
follow-on questions.
Uh, definitely opened me up toa lot of, uh, a lot of questions
about myself too.
So, uh, thank you everyone forlistening.
As always, I want you to staytuned, stay focused and stay

(56:17):
motivated.
Warriors fall out.