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December 25, 2024 71 mins

In this episode of The Tech Leader's Playbook, Avetis Antaplyan and Tony Safoian discuss the importance of storytelling in sales, the journey from immigrant roots to becoming an industry leader, and the balance between having a big heart and being ruthless in business. They explore the challenges of scaling a company, the significance of hiring exceptional talent, and the necessity of a strong sales culture. The discussion also touches on the differences between starting a business and scaling it, emphasizing the need for processes and documentation as a company grows. In this conversation, Avetis discusses the critical aspects of employee retention, the challenges of scaling service-focused businesses, and the importance of specialization in achieving growth. He emphasizes the need for businesses to adapt to market changes and innovate continuously while also highlighting the sacrifices required for genuine growth. Avetis shares insights on aligning stakeholders during exits and the essential leadership lessons he has learned throughout his career. Finally, he reflects on finding purpose after retirement and the importance of focusing on meaningful contributions.


Takeaways

  • Sales is fundamentally about storytelling.
  • Exceptional salespeople are crucial for business success.
  • Scaling a business requires a focus on talent acquisition.
  • Sales culture can make or break a company.
  • Documenting processes is vital as a company grows.
  • Investing in top talent is necessary for success.
  • Transparency in business decisions builds trust.
  • Sharing success with employees fosters a positive culture.
  • It's cheaper to keep existing customers and employees.
  • Scaling service businesses is more challenging than tech.
  • Specialization is key to growth in professional services.
  • Listening to customers is vital for business expansion.
  • Leadership is about sharing credit and taking blame.
  • Growth requires sacrifices and hard work.
  • Finding purpose after retirement is important.


Chapters

00:00 The Power of Storytelling in Sales

05:05 Tony Safoian: From Immigrant Roots to Industry Leader

09:50 Balancing Heart and Ruthlessness in Business

15:07 The Journey from Zero to One vs. One to Ten

20:01 Scaling Challenges: Talent, Sales, and Processes

35:19 The Importance of Employee Retention

38:08 Scaling Service-Focused Businesses

41:06 The Power of Specialization

44:01 Navigating Market Changes and Innovations

52:08 The Sacrifices of Growth

54:32 Aligning Stakeholders During Exits

01:01:02 Leadership Lessons and Advice

01:07:40 Finding Purpose After Retirement


Tony Safoian’s Social Media Link:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/safoian/


Resources and Links:

https://www.hireclout.com

https://www.podcast.hireclout.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hirefasthireright

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