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August 31, 2021 79 mins

Why is leisure important?  How might we see evidence of the lack of genuine leisure impacting us in our education systems and beyond?  

This is part 1 of 2 of my conversation with Professor Eugene Matusov - he wrote a book called "Envisioning Education in a Post-Work Leisure Based Society".  

Professor Matusov (or, Eugene, as I know him) is one of the most unique and out of the box thinkers I was fortunate to encounter as a student at the University of Delaware.  Though I was never in his class, I consider myself a perpetual student of his.  

We get a small taste of his fascinating upbringing in the Soviet Union, and hear how he consistently rubbed up against a culture and society that didn't know how to handle someone who existed as uniquely in the world as he did.  

We speak about the connection between leisure and education, about fake vs genuine leisure, Plato vs Aristotle,  and the necessity of Freedom - and how to define that idea more specifically so that we may transcend ourselves and self-actualize.  

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