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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But you can say, all
right, there's a gift in here
that I'm ready to up-level andheal again, or that I'm ready
for perhaps that I wasn't two,three years ago and it's going
to make me even more resilientand strong and in my power and
understanding and morecompassionate for myself.
I think we get frustrated.
I already healed that.
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I already dealt with that.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I don't need to.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And that's not how
energy works either.
These mirrors back ouropportunities and lessons, and
so I think you know it's notlike here we go again.
It's actually a gift.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Welcome to tried and
true with a dash of woo, where
we blend rock solid tips with alittle bit of magic.
I'm Renee Bowen, your host,life and business coach and
professional photographer atyour service.
We are all about gettingcreative, diving into your
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So are you ready to getinspired and have some fun?
Let's dive in.
Hey, hey, welcome back to Triedand True with a dash of woo.
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I hope you guys are having anamazing week.
I am your host, renee Bowen,and every week I bring you guys
either solo episodes or someamazing guests, and I have one
of those for you guys today.
Her name is Christina L Woodsand we have a lot in common,
Like we are certified in a lotof the same modalities and she's
also a coach, so ourconversation is centered all
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around this epidemic of notenoughness, self-worth, what you
can do to change that and somereally quick, quick ways to get
out of those old programmingbeliefs.
Christine is a licensed rapidtransformational therapist.
She's also a clinicalhypnotherapist, an empowerment
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coach and a Reiki master, andshe combines her background in
corporate leadership, along withher life experiences in dealing
with trauma and abandonment, toempower other women to trust
their own intuition and setthemselves free of self-doubt.
As the CEO and founder of WiseWoods Hypnotherapy and Coaching,
christina has extensiveexperience working on complex
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challenges and pulling potentialout of others so that they can
become self-reliant individuals,and through this deep
hypnotherapy and coaching work,she empowers women to shed old
programming so they can live thelife they deserve.
She's been honing her intuitionand spiritual energy practice
throughout her entire life, andit is this experience, knowledge
and wisdom that she brings toevery client.
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During each session, christinawants everyone to stop looking
outside for what they need andinstead look inside themselves.
She helps her clients step intotheir true, authentic self,
free of self-sabotaging behavior, so they can live a life full
of deep meaning and potential.
So she's pretty rad and, yeah,we would be BFFs.
So I may have to go take alittle trip down to Orange
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County and have some coffee withher, because we definitely have
a lot in common.
Like I said, we're both Reikis,we're both coaches,
hypnotherapy, the whole deal.
We really are very centered inthat belief of our unconscious
holding so many of the cards andhow we can change those and how
we can rewire all of that, andit doesn't have to take a long
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time.
So grab a cup of coffee, have aseat and listen in on our
conversation.
Hey Christina, thank you somuch for being here today.
I'm super excited to chat withyou.
We have so much in common.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I know we really do.
Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yay.
So for you guys that arelistening, just side note, we
both are certified in hypnosisand Reiki and we have a lot of
the same interests.
We're both coaches.
She's got some othercertifications that I don't, and
vice versa.
So this will be a really funconversation and I really want
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to just kind of start off withand kind of focus on something I
see a lot in my coaching that Iknow you probably see a lot of
as well this like epidemic of Iam not enoughness and you know
why do you think in your opinion, what are your thoughts on why
that seems to be so prevalent?
I see it a lot in women,especially my female clients
yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
You know, somewhere
along the line and we can dig
into the beliefs and find outthe nitty gritties of the whys,
but somewhere along the line wedisconnect from ourself and our
intuition and our voice.
And when we do that and we stoptrusting ourselves, our North
Star however we want to refer toit that's when we start doing
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that comparison game and I don'tknow what to do.
I don't know the answers.
I need to go outside of myself.
And then you're instantly inthat I'm not enough.
You know I'm not.
I'm not thin enough, I'm notrich enough, I need another
course, I need another this, Ineed another something, I need
another diet.
But you know, I think at thecore it's like we've just
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stopped trusting our intuitionand our voice at some point.
A disconnection from self andin many times, maybe a
disconnection from a higherpower, whatever it is that you
believe in, whether that just benature in the trees, a
connection to something reallythat grounds you.
Because when we, when we havethat disconnection, that's
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something that fragments us.
Yeah, we just stop listening tosome.
You know, we know, we know wehave a guide within us.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, I believe that
for sure.
And so much programming didn'teven sign up for.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And you know, I mean
I'm not enough.
A big part of it is, you know,as you know, is the core need
for all of us is to be connectedand not rejected, and I mean I
don't want to be rejected asmuch as the next person.
So, really understanding thatis yeah, we seek to be connected
, we seek to be part of a tribe,part of a group, and when we're
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doing that, constantly tryingto get that validation from the
outside, a lot of times what I'mdoing with clients and I'm sure
you are as well as like, let'sremind you that you have all
that approval already on theinside and, gosh, what an
exhausting life to keep tryingto seek validation on the
outside, cause that, you know,burnout, burnout.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So yeah, it's not
possible, it's just not feasible
, know, burnout, so yeah it'snot possible.
It's just not feasible and weget so reliant to, especially
with social media and and youknow it's really easy to fall
prey I think too right To thescroll and consuming all of that
.
You know it really is not justabout like as far as like our
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wellbeing, like the kind offoods we eat, it's like what
we're consuming for mediaenergetically, yeah, all of that
, and you know your energy isreally affected by that.
So I want to kind of talk alittle bit about that, because I
know that a lot of my listenersmay not well, they may not
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really have kind of dove deepinto energetics and like energy
healing and Reiki and thingslike that.
Alongside of, you know, thestuff that we think about right,
like more stuff that we feelabout.
So I kind of want to take usthere to talk about that and how
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shifting energy right With yourclients.
What are some of the thingsthat you found that work really
well for your clients?
I mean, obviously everybody'sdifferent, but what works really
well for your clients in termsof everybody's different, but
what works really well for yourclients in terms of cleaning up
their energy, shifting theirenergy, getting in a higher
vibration, that kind of thing?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, yeah, I think
first, just even you know, being
aware and looking at maybe eventhe scale of consciousness and
looking at and saying, whoa,okay, when I'm down here, this
is a lower vibration and up herewe all know gratitude and love
and all those things are reallyhigh vibration, but I get into
shame or guilt or I get tickedoff or we go up and down.
But when we hang out there toreally understand, all right,
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I'm a match.
When I'm at a low vibration,then really understanding
without shame or without sayingyou know cause, we can get a
little bit.
You know the, the energeticworld can get a little bit like
you're a, you're a mirror.
Everything in your life is amirror back to you, which can
feel a little bit um, you know,not so good sometimes like, oh,
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all these bad things arehappening to me because I'm a
mirror and I attracted them backin.
But so just being accountablefor where we're at on the scale
and knowing we go up and down,but what is the scale and what
does it look like, and evenclients that I work with that
understand energy, just havingthat scale of consciousness and
being aware, like, okay, I amdown here, what do I need to do,
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to go up here, because whenwe're down in the funk, we don't
even really feel it or see it.
So I think awareness is firstand foremost.
Like I'm down here, I need toget up.
But one of the best things isand someone taught me, and
energy coach taught me this andit's kind of based in what's
called the Sedona method, one ofthose, one of those methods out
there that we've all learnedand I'm sure it's been tweaked
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and changed a thousand times.
But and it goes back to youknow, you get more of what you
feel, right, we get more of whatwe feel.
But when we're in a bad placeand someone's saying, well, just
think, you know, rainbows andbutterflies start thinking happy
thoughts, and you're like, yeah, right, whatever, I can't.
I'm so mad right now I can'tbelieve they said that, or my
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boss did this, or my kids lied.
I had someone the other daysaying, but she lied, she's in
college across the country andshe lied how can I trust her?
Now it's hard to get out ofthat.
So one of the ways is to thinkin the last 24 hours of the last
few days where, let's say, youfeel out of control or you feel
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unsafe or not approved of.
Think in the last day or so whenyou did feel that feeling, when
you felt approved of or youfelt in control, and just stop
and it might.
It's usually a moment with thedog or a walk I saw a butterfly,
but pets are so good becauseit's like unconditional and it's
easy.
Like I looked at the cat theypurred, it felt good and just
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let that moment kind of blowthrough you like a gentle breeze
and it's such an easy pivot andreally let that soak in, like,
feel it in your cells, feel itin your bones, and just that
exercise of that shifts yourenergy so quickly.
And then think about okay, holdon, she's 18.
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Yeah, she lied, she's incollege.
Maybe she didn't want me toreject her.
Maybe I mean you have adifferent perspective.
She didn't want me to rejecther.
Maybe I mean you have adifferent perspective.
So that's a really good energypivot shift to you know, pivot
your energy and get you backinto a different vibration.
Cause I I think you know we allwant to shift our energy.
But I know I've had coaches andleaders and friends say, but
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you have so much to be gratefulfor, but when you're in that
funk.
It's like you know what I thinkI want to pour this glass of
water in your face, come on.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's a good point.
It's so hard and I've heardthat from so many people not
just you know coaching clients,but just people in my life, you
know my personal life and it'sso hard for some people to, like
you said, wrap their their headaround that because it feels
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very like they already beatthemselves up Right Like.
So if someone's alreadyself-sabotaging and already like
has a lot of um inner saboteur,right Voices like you're not
good enough, you suck, blah,blah, blah, all those things.
They already have a lot of thatgoing on.
And then that concept of youget what you are, you get what
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you give, et cetera.
They're like, well, great, okay.
Well, since I can't snap out ofit, since I have no control
over these thoughts and I amjust really feeling crappy about
my life, then that sucks.
I guess I'm just going to keepattracting it and I don't know
why.
And so they stay in that theydo, they do.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And one of the most
common beliefs that feeds I'm
not enough is a belief that whatyou just said is sort of like
that's not available to me.
So a lot of people will say youknow, I make a lot of money, I
have a lot of friends, but Ijust not one of those people
that has love, like I'm just notgoing to find the love of my
life, like that's not availableto me.
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It's okay, cause I have allthese other things.
Or vice versa.
I don't know about you, but Ihave a lot of clients that the
first thing they say to me is Idon't know why I'm not fulfilled
.
I have so many things to begrateful for, but I'm just, it's
just this thing, so it'sprobably not a big deal.
Maybe I don't even need youbecause I've got eight things.
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I should not have 10 things,and so it's.
It's this.
Why not?
Why?
Why not?
Why are we not good enough tohave all these things?
We're not worthy.
But we have a belief, oftenlike but that thing might not
just be available to me, it'savailable to other people, but
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just not me, cause I got luckyand got the other things, but
that's just a belief, yeah, andI mean the bottom line and I
believe this fully is that wecan be and have whatever we want
, and guilt-free as well,because we are meant to be happy
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.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, I really
believe we came here to
experience this place and thatyou know.
Our perspective on that is whatcolor?
Is it a lot?
But yeah, so many people willjust say that you know, well, it
must be nice for you becauseyou have this or you have that,
or you you know, and, yeah,there are some people who have
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had an upper hand, who haveprivilege, who have and I 100%
recognize that, and in myself aswell but we don't know
everybody else's story.
You don't know exactly what thatperson has gone through, right,
you don't know that they dealtwith incredible loss or whatever
it is.
And it's so interesting to mewhen I see people who have had
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when I do hear their stories andthey have had like incredibly
difficult lives and I mean liketrauma with a big T and they are
like the most calm and likeneutral observer, happy people
in their lives because they'veworked, you know, through that.
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That is so amazing to me, soI'm like, well, okay, explain
that then, if you feel like youknow what I mean, like it's like
, look for proof, because youwill find proof of whatever it
is you're looking for?
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Absolutely, yeah, and
humans are.
We're so resilient and, youknow, back to that idea about
life is a mirror back when youstart healing the beliefs and
really understanding energy.
It's a mirror back because it'sa gift to look at what those
lessons are.
And when you get to that place,you know and I'm definitely I
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have my days where I'm like,well, I feel a little in my
victim mode for a moment, butI'm able to pivot out of it much
, much quicker now, with energyand astrology and things going
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on.
It's like, okay, here we goagain.
I'm healing this thing again.
I thought it was done with itor whatever.
It might be that childhoodissue coming up again.
But you can say, all right,there's a gift in here that I'm
ready to up-level and heal again, or that I'm ready for perhaps
that I wasn't two, three yearsago and it's going to make me
even more resilient and strongand, in my power and
understanding, morecompassionate for myself.
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I think we get frustrated, likeI already healed that.
I already dealt with that.
I don't need to, and you knowthat's not how energy works
either.
These mirrors back ouropportunities and lessons, and
so I think you know it's notlike here we go again.
It's actually a gift.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, that's one of
the things that I find myself
saying a lot, not just to myselfbut to all my coaching students
, is that you know this is anopportunity if you choose to
look at it that way because itis, it is a choice.
You can look at it as anopportunity like, oh, that
trigger, okay, you know it cantake you down a different path
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if you allow it to.
But if you look at it as anopportunity for growth, that's
where the gold is and that'swhere you know I feel like so
many people and I don't know.
It depends on everyone'sjourney and it depends on so
many, so many different things.
When you do look at it throughthat lens, it tells a different
story and there's, there's a lotto gather from that.
(17:36):
If you're willing to sit withit and that's the other part of
it is that in order to kind ofmove through it, like that
awareness, like you were talkingabout awareness looking at it,
recognizing it, seeing it OK,sitting with it and being OK
with the fact that it does notfeel great right now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
That it is temporary,
because everything is temporary
, literally Right, right, right.
It's not always going to feelthis charged.
You know, I was having thisconversation with my son last
night.
I have a 25 year old son.
He has autism and he he has a.
You know, he's come so so farand and he's a very big success
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story as far as you know,overcoming so many challenges in
his life and he still dealswith these situations that come
up that you know, in socialthings.
And you know, I think there wassomething that happened online
because you know he spends a lotof time with his friends online
and there was something thatcame up where he said something
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and, you know, didn't mean it tocome out that way, but it kind
of, you know, was misconstruedand so, right when that happened
, he immediately tookresponsibility and said you know
, I'm sorry, I didn't mean it tocome across that way and tried
to apologize and that personjust blocked him and did not
allow for him to have thatapology and it's been eating him
(19:02):
up for about a week now, and sohe finally talked to me about
it, of course, where our kidlike I don't know about you, but
you know, like my kids alwaysjust like lay things on me at
like 11 o'clock at night.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I know and you're
like, this is a moment, I'm
going to stay awake as a mom,but boy, it's tired, I'm tired,
I'm literally about to like notoff.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And he's, you know he
needs, he needs to get this off
his chest and I'm like, okay,let's go there.
And that's one of the thingsthat I was talking about.
I was like, you know, you can'tcontrol what someone else does
with that, but you can, you know, take responsibility.
It sounds like you did and youare, but the more you hold on to
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it, the only person sufferingright now is you, and we are our
worst critics.
We are, you know, we're harderon ourselves than anybody else
is.
So let's figure out a way foryou to kind of sit with this.
Let it be uncomfortable for asecond.
Let's move through it, becauseyou got to kind of make peace
with it before you can deal withit.
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You know, running away from itjust makes it bigger.
This makes it stronger.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
What a great lesson.
What a great lesson, right, youknow, and it's.
I'm so glad you say that.
I have a client I've beenworking with that, you know.
I think when we're doing thiswork, sometimes, especially in
in the spiritual realm, you know, we believe in these
synchronicities or these signs,and so often then we will lean
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on them instead of takingaccountability.
For what I was told one time isthere's no divine timing
without divine action, and Ilove that.
It's like, yeah, you don't waitaround for divine timing, you
still take divine action and hasto be aligned.
And that's what divine timingis with divine action.
And so you know she's this,this client is, you know, really
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owning her intuition, and thensomeone in her life that she's
not sure she wants to be withwould take an action that would
kind of sway her to gosh, maybeis the right person, I'm not
sure.
Sure, maybe it's the rightperson.
You just did something nice andshe's she's like, well, that
was the universe telling me Ishould stay like, well, there's
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an.
That's one way to look at it.
There's another way to look atit.
There's another way for theuniverse showing you come on,
honey, you can stand in yourpower, you really can trust your
intuition.
That's another way to look atit.
So you know.
so it's, it's really thisopportunity we have.
We have the answers within and,as you build that strength from
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within and that's why I lovewhether it's hypnotherapy, nlp,
energy healing and mixing it alltogether, it's just so powerful
because, even when we dosubconscious work, if we have,
you know, energy blocks andthings weighing us down, just
the combination is so powerfulto to really lighten us and and
feel empowered in our physicalbody and our energy body.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I agree as far
as um, all of that like what
does that look like for you whenyou're working with clients?
I know that you work withpeople all over the world, like
you know, like I do, and so doyou have a specific like method
or protocol, or do you just sortof individualize and
intuitively connect you knowwith with that client?
(22:25):
And maybe it looks like youknow, do you do hypnosis tracks?
You do it with them live, likehow, how do you sort hypnosis
tracks?
You do it with them live, likehow, how do you sort of navigate
that it's I'm always sointerested to hear how, how
other people do that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, yeah, it is, it
is intuitive and it's it is
individualized.
So really just feeling you knowwhere is someone.
Um, I used to always startright away with hypnotherapy but
what I found is, you know,let's really feel into it can be
too jarring sometimes for aclient, you know, to start there
.
So, depending on where someoneis in their path, so I might do
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some other energy work or somecoaching or parts work or inner
child work or some of thosethings to really start to
understand you know wherethey're at and how are they
feeling.
And, uh, I do theta healing.
I'm an advanced theta healer,which is a great way Tell me
about that.
That's really interesting.
Um, it is also a hypnosismethod, but it's really just
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taking a client into a thetabrainwave but it is connecting
with a creator of all.
That is so a spiritualconnection and witnessing a
healing.
So it's.
It's there has to be a beliefin a higher power and, um, and
so taking client to, to a thetabrainwave, connecting with a
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higher power, doing a body scan,and and then it's a lot of
muscle testing.
Yeah, so, a lot of muscletesting on beliefs.
Many of us have been to, maybelike a homeopathic doctor where
they do the muscle testing withvitamins and minerals, but it's
doing a lot of muscle testingwith beliefs and it gets into
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ancestral beliefs, collectiveconsciousness beliefs, soul
level beliefs.
So oftentimes I'll find, if I'mdoing hypnotherapy and we're
still finding somethinglingering, I'll find, okay,
let's maybe go a little deeperinto that belief.
Might be, you know, certainlypast life or other ancestral
collective, a collective beliefthat you know these things.
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These things run deep.
I mean you can walk the earthnot very long and have some
collective beliefs and not haveany trauma.
And we know, just being a womanor a man, there's plenty of
collective conscious beliefs.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yeah, especially now
too, and like there's so much
heaviness occurring on the daily, and so I don't, I feel like
you know there's so many peoplewho are so sensitive to that and
they don't realize that theyare like they're picking it up.
They're literally just pickingup all of that collective trauma
(25:08):
and it's like you said, it'ssuper easy to do that right now.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
It is.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
All you have to do is
hop online for a second and you
could get bombarded with it.
And as soon as you interactwith any of that content, you're
going to get more of it,because the algorithm is like
energy You're going to getexactly what you tell it, you
want.
It's so true, get exactly whatyou tell it you want, and so you
have to curate all of it right.
Like you, you've got to curateyour field in in really kind of,
(25:39):
um, tell it what hygieneExactly, exactly, yeah, um, one
of the things that I alwaysrecommend to people who are
really feeling that a lot andhaving a hard time, you know,
grounding or kind of movingthrough that and just being
super affected by the weight ofthe world, one of the things
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that I tell them they can do.
That'll take like five minutes,like super easy, you can do it
wherever is, to just kind of,you know, close your eyes for a
second, take a couple ofcleansing breaths and then
imagine your energetic fieldsaround you, just like right
around you, and then go aheadand expand it and say, you know,
expand my field by a mile.
And then keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going, until
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you get to like 100,000 miles,500,000 miles, and like, really,
like, feel it.
And I, when I do it, I see it.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah, I see it visually in mymind like um, like a cartoon,
like it goes like you know whatI mean Like.
It's like, oh yeah, yoursuperpower, yeah yeah.
And so if you can add avisualization to that or
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anything that's going to be moreimpactful and empower you know,
like empower you to really feelinto it, it works, especially
if you're in a situation whereyou do feel disempowered or you
feel like maybe, maybe you're ina relationship with someone who
is consistently, you know, alittle narcissistic and you're
not understanding how tonavigate that.
That's a really good thing todo before you even, like, go
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into that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
You know it really is
, yeah, and that, and zipping up
energy, right.
So I have a couple of clientsthat just that, that idea of
like I'm zipping myself up, I'mreally protected.
You know when, when I'm doingsessions with people even
because I work with a lot ofsensitive people and they're
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just understanding how empathicthey are and maybe they're not
even in the spiritual world,they just know why am I so tired
?
When I'm around these people,I'm so exhausted, or you know,
I'm just, you know I'm not, I'mnot, they're not really, it's
all new, it's all new to them.
So, just sharing with them waysto recharge or giving them
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permission for self-care andunderstanding the value of it
and the words for it.
So, you know, through hypnosis,finding out what those limiting
beliefs are, but then using, um,you said kind of when and where
do I use the energy healing?
I might say, you know, let's doReiki now and help you recharge
your, you know your chakrasmight be not not in balance.
(28:14):
Or, um, let's do some betahealing to.
You know, go deeper with someof these beliefs.
And so when you do muscletesting, it's such great
evidence for people to see, wow,um, I can really feel it.
So, um, it kind of yeah, itkind of weaves in and out,
depending on you know, and somepeople are like you know, I
don't want to have anything todo with that Reiki.
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So we don't go there and wejust do coaching.
We don't talk about it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So yeah, I love that.
Talk to me a little bit aboutthe rapid transformational
therapy, because I know a littlebit about it, but I don't think
that a lot of my listenersprobably know a lot about that.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, I'm, I'm super
interested in that.
It's, it's amazing.
So RTT rapid transformationaltherapy is created by Marissa
peer and she is absolutelyphenomenal and what I I love
about it is and her philosophyis that, look, therapy and ways
of improving our life does notneed to take forever.
If we're not feeling well andour foot's broken and we go to
the doctor, they don't say comeback in two weeks and let's talk
(29:19):
about it every Friday at threeo'clock.
So when she created this andeveryone said, yeah, but if you
have trauma, it's going to takea long time, and she really kind
of bucked the system and said,no, I've been doing this for 30
years, I created this new method.
And no, you, actually itdoesn't need to take that.
(29:40):
And, with all due respect toanyone that it is taking longer
than two sessions or threesessions, of course, and I'm one
of those people I've I've donetherapy and EMDR and I did have
the big T trauma, so Iunderstand that.
But it is sure nice when someonecreates something new, and so
RTT is a hypnotherapy that getsto the very root cause.
(30:03):
So instead of just likeaffirmations and visuals and
repetition, it's like all right,yes, we can do those things to
help you stop smoking or feelbetter about yourself.
But let's find out in the firstplace why you did it.
What's the very, very rootcause and reason?
Just like we pull the weeds,we've got to go to the root,
(30:23):
otherwise it's just going togrow right back.
So, finding the root,interrupting it and there's some
techniques to do that and thenrewiring it with an audio
recording like most, hypnosishas Very powerful visual words
you listen to for about threeweeks or more and it's very
effective.
(30:43):
Most people need maybe one tothree sessions for each issue.
I usually work with clients atleast three months with that
mixed in with coaching.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
So Wow, I mean, the
unconscious mind is so amazing,
right Like it's so fascinatingit's.
That's the key to, to all thethings Um, and you do have to be
.
I mean, obviously, if someoneis seeking out, you know,
healing in any kind of modality.
(31:14):
Like you know, there's a reason.
There's a reason why you'redrawn to certain people, right,
like there's a reason if you'relistening to this episode.
There's a reason why you foundthis episode.
There's a reason why, you know,you've maybe have never heard
about these things and nowyou're hearing about it, and so
it doesn't necessarily mean it's, you know, time for you to jump
in right away.
But there, you know, there's areason why, and I'm a big
(31:36):
believer that we are meant, youknow, we find what is meant for
us at the right time.
And it might pan out right nowfor you to dive deeper into that
and it might, you know, be alonger journey, and that's okay.
But I also am always remindingpeople that you know, if
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something pops up on your radarand that rings a bell in your
head and you feel it in yourbody and you, you really it, it
it's a little like Ooh, thatthat's a sign right.
Like.
That's an opportunity, like wewere talking about before, and
if you choose to look at itthrough that lens of an
opportunity, there's some reallycool stuff that can happen.
On the other side of it.
You do have to be brave becauseyou have to sit with it and
(32:19):
you've got to be willing to kindof go there, but I believe that
if it dropped in, it's probablytime to address it.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Absolutely.
I mean, I didn't even knowabout hypnotherapy until I was
almost 50 and completely changeda multi, six figure 30 year
career to do this.
That's how impactful andpowerful it was.
So you know, in my first mykids were like oh my gosh, mom,
you're like the guy at the fairCause.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
they thought I did
the stage.
Thing.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So you know, there's
so much more to it.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, no, tell me
about that a little bit.
Let's talk about real quickyour, your journey through that,
because, yeah, you had acompletely different sort of
background and it was like a,like a whole life, yeah, yeah,
whole whole revamp.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
So, you know, I, I
did.
I did what everybody kind ofthinks they should do.
I was, I did the good girlroute and was very successful a
VP, with, you know, a hundredpeople under me flying all
around the country, a 30 yearclimb the ladder and and did
very well until one day myhealth was falling apart.
My marriage 25 year marriagewas falling apart.
(33:32):
I didn't see my kids enough andI was miserable.
I wasn't happy.
The bank account looked good,my house looked good, everything
on the outside looked good.
But I had a spiritual awakening.
I was outside in the backyardpulling weeds and I was like,
okay, the boys didn't pick upthe dog stuff.
Here I'm just in my pajamaspulling weeds.
(33:56):
And I literally heard a voicethat said when are you going to
stop worrying about whateverybody else needs and focus
on what you need?
And it wasn't my intuition, itwas literally a voice over here
and it stopped me and I reallyhad to think, wow, like what was
that first?
And I knew what it was and Ihad to think I need to make some
(34:19):
changes.
And I had already known,unfortunately, that my marriage
wasn't you know, was coming toan end.
But I also knew that I wantedto really go deep inside and
find out why I felt certain waysabout myself that I knew in my
soul weren't true.
Why do you spend more moneythan you should on these silly
things you don't need, or why doyou eat those things when you
(34:41):
don't want to?
Why do you feel that way aboutyourself sometimes?
So I did the deep dive and Idid some therapy, I did the
spiritual retreats and wentwithin, and during that process
I found things about myself thatwere never darn true and it
completely transformed my life,and that's how I wanted to spend
(35:02):
the rest of my life helpingother people, and that's what I
do now.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's amazing.
I think that's so cool becauseit's such a testament to, like
you, you never know.
First of all, you just neverknow, and you, you know, and
it's also such a great reminderthat you can pivot at any time.
Oh, I know, yes, yes, and Ifeel like a lot of women
(35:29):
especially don't really believethat Right, because it's hard to
believe, especially as we arein our 40s and like I'm in my
early 50s.
You know, we have sort of beentaught, like you said.
You know we've been programmedand taught like this is what you
do and and you know, I meanI've been an entrepreneur for a
really long time.
(35:50):
But I see a lot of of womenespecially deciding or wanting
or feeling called to to eitherwork for themselves or to, like
you said, have a complete 180 intheir life and change things up
.
And it's fascinating to me whenI see that, because it can be
(36:10):
done Like there is proof,absolutely, you know, you don't
have to feel stuck it just youhave to take that aligned action
to have it happen.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I mean, I was
single with kids in college,
tuition, mortgage, the wholething, and so and there is a
calling.
I think now women are realizinglike I can still be safe, I can
, I can without the guilt, likeyou said in the beginning, I can
have these things without theguilt and, you know, it's just
really really feels so good tobe part of that awakening and
(36:44):
that empowerment in any way.
Whatever that looks like, youdon't have to have, you know,
leave all the things I did andchange it to that degree.
But even if it's just findingwhat fills you up and what
lights you up, or givingyourself permission to take some
time out for yourself or setsome boundaries, you know, or or
speak up for yourself, thoseare big deals.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
They really are, and
it's something that I wish that
I had.
You know, I'm not one forregret at all, but you know, now
that I'm 53, like, okay,thinking about what would I tell
my 23 year old self?
Like you know what I mean?
Yeah, so there's so many things, and I have a 23 year old
daughter, I have a 23 year oldson Yep, I have one of those two
(37:32):
and a 25 year old, and so it'sreally cool to be able to.
You know, yeah, they don'talways listen, you know.
You know they they learn byexample more than you know the
words.
But in and when we live it,that's really the best gift,
that's.
The other thing, too is like alot of parents don't realize
that is that the best gift youcan give your kids is just to
live your life as fully and asin your fullest and highest
(37:55):
expression as possible, becausethat is going to change their
life more than you telling themwhat to do.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
As a side note.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But you know, one of
the things that I really want
younger women especially to hearis that, you know, as you
approach menopause I think it isI think that has a really big
factor and I went throughmenopause really early, like at
42, and you know, health myhealth was not great and that
was one of the things thathappened, but it was kind of a
(38:25):
gift and so on the other side ofit, um, you don't care as much
about stuff as you did in yourtwenties.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Oh, I know people
that you're going to do what
you're going to leave that greatcareer and do.
I'm sorry, what hypno?
Is that even real?
Yeah, yeah, like, yes, I am,and it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
And I really don't
care what you think, and if it
doesn't work out?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I'll do something
else.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Exactly, and I love
that.
It's so freeing, Like that'sone of the gifts that I have
seen of getting older.
Is this perspective and thisfeeling of like freedom no, I
don't have to like, I've neverbeen really one to do what other
people wanted me to do, butthere were a lot of times where
(39:11):
I did what was expected of me.
You know, maybe in personalrelationships and things like
that, and maybe you know,definitely taking on too much
work and that kind of stuff.
Yes, yes, that well, I'm a humandesign generator.
So that you know, until Istarted learning about human
design, you are as well.
Yeah, and that was somethingthat I just did, naturally.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Right, like I just oh
.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
I can do it, I can do
it.
And then, oh, I am so burnt out, yeah.
So learning about human designas well just in the last few
years has been such a hugeeye-opener for me and giving
myself that permission of beinglike, yeah, no, this, this is a
no.
My body says this is a no.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, exactly I'm not
going to deny that anymore.
I'm going to check my safe rolehere for a sec.
For me, that's awesome, exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Just as a little side
note, because I always like to
ask my guests.
So you're a human designgenerator.
What's your profile lines?
One, three, one, three.
Oh, I'm a.
Two, four, um, and then what'syour?
What's your astrological bigthree?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Um, I am a Scorpio
sun right Leo rising, and a
cancer moon Ooh love, love, love, love.
Yeah, Water fire, a little fire, but water and I funny thing is
is my partner and I have thissame birthday, so we're two
Scorpios here, Um same day.
Yeah, I know, yep, uh-huh, ooh,no sting, I know what to expect
(40:43):
.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Wow, yeah, no, I I'm
a Virgo, but I had this thing
with Scorpio guys for literallymost of my life, and I'm not
even talking about just theysometimes had the same birthday.
It was bizarre.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh, I had that.
Actually, I had threeboyfriends with the same
birthday.
They're all cancers.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And wow, those were
some really big lessons in my
twenties.
We can have lunch, yeah,exactly, exactly.
But no, it's one of thosethings where it's like, okay,
well, you know Scorpio now.
Now, when I hear Scorpio, I'malways like there's always like
a, not women.
Some of my, my best friends,are Scorpio women, so it's very
different Scorpio men, verydifferent for me.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
So it's funny and my
husband's an.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Aries, but he has a
Scorpio moon, so that's, that's
an interesting thing too.
I was like, well, yeah, Icouldn't get away with it from
it completely Obviously.
No, you couldn't Dancing aroundit for sure.
Okay.
So before we wrap up, this hasbeen really fun.
I really hope that you guys, youknow, take away what we've.
You know that that whole ideaof you are enough right now.
(41:50):
You don't need to be, you know,anything more right.
You don't have, to like, waitfor permission to live your life
and you are enough now and youcan call in and decide whatever
it is you want in your life andyou can change things quickly.
And change can happen really,really quickly.
And that's kind of what I wantto sort of wrap up with, because
(42:11):
we danced around it a littlebit, talking about hypnotherapy
and RTT and how, you know, bigchanges can happen.
I see it happen all the timewith my clients.
I'll tell them to listen to thehypnosis tracks and literally
within like three weeks, they'relike I don't know why, but I
just don't really feel like that.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm like I know why,
exactly, I don't feel.
I don't feel it anymore.
It's not bothering me as much,I don't notice it as much.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
It's becoming who you
are yes, it's really working
and it works quick.
And so what would you tellsomeone who is really not
well-versed in, doesn't know alot about hypnotherapy, thinks
it's super weird, or whatever?
What's one piece of advice youwould give somebody who is a
(42:57):
little, you know um averse to itor not willing to try it, but
they are interested in it, likewhat you know it's.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's just a natural
process.
It feels like you're listeningor it when I'm, when we're
talking.
We're talking the whole time.
I think that's a big shocker.
We're talking the whole timeand it feels like just a relaxed
state, like you're in ameditation.
And I think the big one isthere's not like a switch.
You don't go into thiszombie-like state, you're just
(43:26):
talking and you almost eventhink is this working?
I still hear the lawnmoweroutside and the dog barking.
Yes, it's still working.
And no matter who you are,where you live, we all have
programs.
We all have beliefs that aren'ttrue about us.
So those beliefs are worthfinding out because they are the
(43:49):
lens in which you look throughand determine how you feel about
yourself and how you feel aboutthe world.
And the more you peel thoseaway, you get clarity and you
get the truth about you.
So, but hypnosis is not the bigscary thing on Netflix.
I mean, those shows areterrible, yeah exactly, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
And again, like you
know, I always tell people like,
if you feel called to it andyou feel it, you know you feel
interested in it and it, and itisn't scary Like I had so many
people like say, well, I feel.
Like you know, it's just goingto implant ideas against my will
.
No, no, no, you're not doingthat.
Going into a zombie trance,that is right.
Well, that just happens in themovies.
You're good, you're still incontrol of your faculties, like
(44:37):
you know, and trance is a verynatural state.
I mean, like heck, you could bedriving your car and get to
your location and not remembergetting there, like we go into
trance all the time.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I don't know about
you, but I pull in my driveway
and go.
Did I even stop at the light?
There you go.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
So Exactly Our body.
It's natural, and so it's justabout using it to its highest
benefit and creating quickchange.
That's what I love about it isthat it really just it can
happen so fast.
And it's kind of amazing whenyou see that in real time.
It's like, and even just like,my personal life, just my own.
(45:12):
You know, obviously, the reasonwhy I believe in it so much is
because I see it firsthand, likeyou, how it made such a huge
difference in your life and it'slike, oh, I just got to tell
everybody about it.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
It's awesome so, and
I'm listening to an audio
recording myself right now thatI made myself.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
So I do it all the
time.
I have those headphones, thatsleep mask, with the little
headphones, the Bluetooth, and Ilove to do that on like long
haul flights, but sometimes I'lljust put that on when I go to
sleep.
My husband's the same way.
He will listen.
We both have the same, we havematching sets of this, and he
(45:50):
likes to listen as he wakes up,because he has severe ADHD and
so getting up in the morning isreally really hard for him, like
he has to like set an alarm andthen he has to give himself
like 30 minutes, and so he usesthat 30 minutes to listen to
hypnosis and it's that's his day, like it sets the tone, which I
(46:10):
think is fantastic.
Me, when I wake up, my alarmgoes off.
I'm up, I got to get up, mybrain just starts moving, and
I've tried doing it in themorning, but I'm a little too
distracted.
I like to do it at night, whenI'm falling asleep, when I'm
getting into theta and delta,and you know what I mean.
So you got to find what worksfor you and experiments a little
(46:31):
bit with it.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
But yeah, and I love
you can then do self-hypnosis,
so I'm sure you teach yourclients that too, and then if
there's anything else going onin their lives, you learn it.
It's very easy to learn it andit's another way to really just
be empowered.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Exactly To have
agency.
I love that.
Thank you so much for beinghere and chatting with me.
I could literally talk aboutthis all day long and we're not
that far from each other.
We'll probably, if I'm everdown in orange County, I will
let you know, so we get somecoffee.
Tell people where to find you.
Where do you like to connectwith people?
Most I'll put everything in theshow notes, but what's your
(47:08):
preferred method of peoplefinding you?
And all of that?
Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, thank you.
So Instagram is a great one andmy handle is at Christina, with
a CH ChristinaLWoods, and mywebsite's ChristinaLWoodscom,
and there's free downloads, ahypno meditation and some things
on there.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Perfect, awesome.
Okay, I'll put all of that foryou guys in the show notes and
thank you so much for being here.
This has been awesome.
Thank you, renee.
So many nuggets in this episode.
I know you guys are going towalk away with a lot.
One of the things I definitelywant to highlight is that change
doesn't have to take a longtime, and you know everybody has
(47:46):
their own timing, so honor thatfor yourself.
But if you are feeling calledto do work, to work through this
stuff right, these limitingbeliefs beliefs and you're not
enoughness, and maybe you have alot of self-sabotaging
behaviors that you're startingto notice, and so I just want
you to know it doesn't have tobe this lifelong journey of
(48:08):
overcoming it.
It really doesn't.
There's so much proof out therethat change can happen very
quickly, especially with peoplewho are certified in modalities
that are going to help you getthere faster.
It really just depends on whatkind of aligned action you
really feel called to take.
So don't wait is the bottomline.
(48:29):
If you feel just even a littleitch that something needs to
shift, just lean into it.
That's all you have to reallydo.
Just look at it right Insteadof like sort of pushing it under
the rug and as soon as you lookat it and are aware of what's
going on, if the timing is right, more stuff is going to drop in
and more opportunities for youto work through it are going to
(48:52):
show up in your life.
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