Catherine (Space and Time) breaks down why blockchains alone can’t power complex apps—and how a verifiable, decentralized database with ZK proofs closes the gap for enterprises, devs, and AI agents. We cover: what SxT is, how its patented ZK approach offloads compute to a single node and proves correctness on-chain, why institutional adoption is sticky, and marketing tactics that actually work in Web3 (what to outsource vs keep in-house). She also shares the Indonesia education rollout (UGM + Indosat Ooredoo Hutchison/IOH), token-powered payments, and what she’d do with unlimited community budget.
Key timestamps (YouTube format)
[00:00:00] Opening clip: From “future of money” to “verifiable data for smart contracts”
[00:01:00] Live at Token2049: who Catherine is and what we cover
[00:02:00] Origin story: joining Space and Time to solve crypto’s database gap
[00:03:00] Mission: empower devs/enterprises/AI agents with verifiable data
[00:04:00] Why chains ≠ databases: limits, complexity, and enterprise SLAs
[00:05:00] The core innovation: patented ZK proofs for database compute
[00:05:45] How it works (plain English): single-node compute, on-chain verification
[00:06:30] Catherine’s background: technical marketing roots → Web3
[00:07:00] Founder tip: what to outsource vs keep internal (PR, events, community)
[00:08:00] Campaigns that win: enterprise/institutional stories beat gimmicks
[00:09:00] Example: Microsoft Fabric integration momentum
[00:10:00] Listening to the market: community as your feedback engine
[00:11:00] Indonesia rollout: IOH partnership and 100k+ students onboarding
[00:12:00] UGM framework: verifiable diplomas/records; SXT as payment rail
[00:13:00] Longevity question: decentralization and community node operators
[00:15:00] If starting today: what they’d build vs leverage in the ecosystem
[00:16:00] Why institutional demand is slow but sticky (and good for cycles)
[00:17:00] Competing for attention vs building fundamentals and partnerships
[00:18:00] What Space and Time needs now: builders to ship with verifiable data
[00:19:00] Who they admire: Chainlink’s dual GTM (community + enterprise)
[00:20:00] Unlimited budget thought experiment: country leads and community depth
[00:20:45] Advice to community managers: shared values, inclusion, tight feedback loops
[00:21:30] Close: links, how to try SxT, and why this matters for Web3 builders
Connect
https://twitter.com/SpaceandTimeDB
https://discord.gg/spaceandtimeDB
https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherinehdaly/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/space-and-time-db/
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