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June 4, 2020 50 mins

Welcome to episode number two of What Comes After What Comes Next.


This week I am joined by Christiana Figueres, the former head of the UN convention on climate change who spearheaded the talks that led to the historic Paris Agreement.


Our conversation focused how we can rebuild from the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic to create a better, cleaner, and fairer economy.


James Shaw is New Zealand's Minister for Climate Change and co-leader of the Green Party. Feel free to get in touch any time james.shaw@parliament.govt.nz.


Check out Christiana's new book The Future We Choose and her podcast Outrage and Optimism.



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