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January 30, 2024 25 mins

Our dialogue recounts the harrowing path of two premeditated murders.  The first case involves the 2021 murder of Spanish teacher, Nahema Graber, in rural Iowa. The second the 1975 case of Debbie Gamma, a student whose life ended at the hands of her English teacher, Raymond Payne.

 https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/nohema-graber-jeremy-goodale-willard-mille-b2448484.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeremy-goodale-iowa-teen-sentenced-killing-spanish-teacher-nohema-graber/

https://www.dailyamerican.com/story/news/local/2020/12/02/teacher-raymond-payne-who-strangled-erie-student-debbie-gama-in-1975-dies-at-sci-laurel-highlands/115798806/

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