April 25, 2024 • 22 mins
Assistant DA Diana Teran, who works in George Gascón office, faces felony charges for allegedly accessing confidential police reports, then using these files against them. Micheal Monks joins Gary and Shannon to discuss the 93 arrest last night during protests at USC. Grizzly Bears aren’t so bad, new studies paint a calmer image.
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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty, the
Gary and Shannon Show on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. Well, one of
George Gascone, the guy who's squattingin the DA's office, one of his
top advisors, if not his topadvisor. Commonly referred to the wicked Witch
in the West, the fox inthe hen house. A woman who worked
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for the Public Defender's Office going afterlaw Enforcement. Is the person that he
appointed his right hand woman in theDA's office when he was elected. She
has now been brought up on criminalcharges. The California Attorney General has filed
criminal charges against Diana Turan eleven felonyaccounts. Eleven felony account excuse me,
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Deputy DA. John McKinney, friendof the show, joins us now from
inside the dungeon of the DA's officewith an update. Break it down for
us, like we're four, John, this was this woman's been a real
nightmare for you guys, right,Yes, absolutely, she has Well,
her name is Diana Turan. Togive a quick synopsis of her employment history,
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she was a deputy District Attorney formany years. She left our office
and took a job with the Sheriff'sDepartment to be an advisor on constitutional policing.
She then left the Sheriff's department towork for the Office of Inspector General
again in the role of oversight ofthe sheriff's department. She left the Office
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of the Inspector General to become aconsultant for the Public Defender's Office, again
in the role of consulting on constitutionalpolicing. And then she was hired by
George gascon to return to the DA'soffice. And apparently she came back bearing
what the Public Defenders and Gasconne musthave seen as gifts. This illegally obtained
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or allegedly illegally obtained information about elevensheriff deputies. Well, so there's a
couple questions. For example, ifformer Sheriff Alex Viannaweva was the first one
to kind of blow the whistle onthis woman and suggests that she was downloading
information about sheriff's deputies, he describedit as a massive data breach. Did
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George Gascone know that that was goingon when he appointed her or hired her
back in the DA's office with likeyou said, this treasure trove of information.
What did he know and when didhe know it? Those are the
two questions that should be rolling offof every reporter's tongue today. I think
he had to know. I mean, this story wasn't hidden from the public.
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It was publicly reported in La Timesas early as twenty nineteen, and
George Gascone didn't become district Attorney untilthe end of twenty twenty and a report
that I saw said that she wascooperating in the investigation. So it's hard
to imagine that he hired her intwenty twenty one without knowing that there were
concerns about her obtaining this information illegally, that there was an investigation, and
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then did he not only hire herin light of that information, he put
her in charge of the very divisionsin the DA's office that have the responsibility
of police officer misconduct and other membersof the justice system misconduct as well.
Knowing what we know about George gasconthough he may not even have known it
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was illegal, you know, hehas such little information when it comes to
the law and how it all worksthat I wouldn't be surprised. I mean,
she's the one who knows what she'sdoing. She essentially infiltrated the DA's
office to burn it down from theinside with this information. What happened to
the information about this cops? Howdid the Public Defender's office use it?
Do we know? Well, Ithink this disinvestigation should be massive. We
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don't know based on reporting as ofyesterday, whether she shared this information with
the public defenders, although you kindof have to imagine she did. The
allegation right now is that she sharedit or she included it into the prosecutor's
databases, which is really pernicious because, for those who don't know, some
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changes in the law resulted in prosecutorshaving to affirmatively disclose information to the defense
that might be helpful to a defendantthat might bear upon the credibility of police
officers and other witnesses as well.So we keep our own database separate and
apartment apart from what police departments keep. So she allegedly illegally obtained information back
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in twenty eighteen that part of thatmassive download that shared fill in the way
of complained about and she carried thatinformation into the DA's office and had it
uploaded into our databases. Now,when she did that, she knew that
we deputy DA's, we prosecutors havean affirmative duty to turn that information over
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to defense attorneys. So we becameunwitting participants and the network of disclosing this
information to defense attorneys. And oncedefense attorneys get it, who knows where
it goes. Wow, So shewas just sandbagging your cases and you had
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no idea. Essentially right, Andthere have been a lot of complaints about
these databases. A lot of DA'shave raised concerns that there was information being
uploaded that was irrelevant, that wasnot necessarily well vetted, that could really
hurt the reputation of police officers whenthere was no real credible reason for it.
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When Miss Turan was brought over fromthe Public Defender's office, I don't
know, you guys probably reported onthe fact that she was still on the
payroll of the Public Defender while shewas working inside the DA's office. A
clear conflict of inter Yeah, thatwas brought to his attention at the time.
He not only ignored it, heembraced it. He made her a
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permanent employee. He put her Ithink she was the number three person in
the office in charge of the justicesystem Integrity Division in charge of Public Integrity
Division. She played a major rolein a re sentencing of cases. I
mean literally had a role in lettingkillers out of prison early. She has
touched a lot of things in ouroffice that now I think has to be
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subject to review. And any caseinvolving a police officer could be corrupted based
on this information. And I don'tthink it's too too strong of a word.
That is corruption. This is We'veseen a lot of really nonsensical things
out of the Gascon administration. Wehaven't seen a real clear cutcase of corruption
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like this may turn out to be. Wow, yeah, I mean you
look at the current cases, pastcases, future cases a lot affected by
what she did. I mean,you can make a case that Gascon is
just a dumb dumb or the devil, but she clearly knew what she was
doing. And not to mention,isn't like his another one of his command
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staffed. Didn't he get in troublefor that weird d y situation not that
long? Like yeah, just likesurrounds himself with just terrible lawbreakers. It's
perfect, perfect that you brought thatup, because there's a bonta factor here
that shouldn't be lost on people.Rob Bonta, the Attorney General is a
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longtime friend and ally of George Gascon. So the fact that these complaints,
this complaint and these charges came outof his office makes this a real wow
factor. This is what is reallysending shockwaves throughout the entire criminal justice system
and should be La County as awhole. These charges came from an entrenched
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Democrat who is not only a personalfriend, but a political ally of George
Gascon. He had to know thatwhen this complaint was found that it was
going to damage an already very weakGeorge Gascone going into this November election.
So, I mean, I canonly surmise from the fact that these charges
were brought now that they are solidand the Attorney General is very confident in
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them. And we, like yousaid, we've seen a case go to
the Attorney General's office before to dieand that's when George Gascon's I think then
chief deputy was accused of interfering withthe police investigation during a dui stop.
That case went to the Attorney General'soffice. We never heard from the Attorney
General audit until the Statute of Limitationshad passed. So a lot of people
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speculated that it was political. Youknow, politics came into play on that.
I'm not saying it did. Idon't know, but you know,
kind of curious that it played outthat way. So to see that same
Attorney General bring these charges and notjust bring the charges in a complaint.
He made some statements, some quote, very powerful quotes that no one is
above the law, you know,and if somebody's going to be put in
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charge of ethics and integrity, thenthen that person has to live up to
the position that they have. Souh, you know, this is just
the beginning. Gascone is done.This is dire, excellent, this is
dire for him. I think he'sdone. He's running against a very capable
candidate, Nathan Hoffman, somebody who'shad an impeccable career, somebody who is
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is the personification of integrity. Uh. Nathan Hockin actually was the presidents of
the La City Ethics Commission for fiveyears. So uh, you know,
you know, to say this isgood news for people who want change,
I think it's good news. Somaybe those people who will finally get of
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the idea and the message that thoseof us who have been criticized in this
administration for the last three and ahalf years. Haven't been doing it on
you out of a sense that wejust don't want reform. We want meaning
for reform, common sense reform.We don't want corrupt reform. John McKenney,
thank you so much. Appreciate yourtime and for that breaking that down
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for us. We're talking about thesefelony charges that have now been announced by
the State Attorney General's Office against AssistantDA Diana Tehran he robed BoNT to.
The Attorney General accused her of improperlydownloading confidential police records in twenty eighteen while
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she was working for the La CountySheriff's Department, and that she impermissively used
that information after she joined George Gasconin the DA's office three years later,
and knowing that the prosecutors have alegal obligation to turn over all of that
information about officers that maybe untoward tothe defense in cases, and in some
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cases it really ruins a case tohave that information turned over or the even
knowledge of that information that they haveto turn over. Her lawyer, by
the way, James Spurtus, saysthis case is dead on arrival said,
they're charging her for doing something withinthe scope of her employment that she has
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a duty to do. Now,if when she was working at the Sheriff's
department she had some reason to downloadconfidential police records, okay, but she
took those with her, and that'spart of the allegation is she took them
with her. Can't do that whenshe changed jobs and was working for either
the Public Defender or the DA's office, and you cannot do that. And
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it'll be interesting, like John said, as the investigation unfolds into what the
Public Defender's Office had that they shouldnot have had. Here's another fun fact.
What was that attorney's name, JamesSpurtis. James Spurtis. He is
also on the legal team for RebeccaGrossman, who ran she oversaw that case.
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I mean, just the incest andthe conflicts of interest are unbelievable that
that's able to go on. ThatYou're able to go and work at the
Public Defender's Office investigating cops and thengo lead the DA's office and sandbag those
cops by putting their information into thefiles, using weaponizing district attorneys to go
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after the people that they work with, to put the bad guys away.
What a devil incarnate. And JohnMcKinney made a great point, think about
how close rob Bonta and George Gasconhave been over the years, how egregious
this case must have been, andhow over the top the evidence is that
George rob Bonta felt obligated to filethese charges as opposed to finding some way
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to just kind of make letting thisthing disappear, you know, stay in
a file something. I'm skeptical aboutthat, about the truth or the solidity
of that friendship, or if there'ssomething in it for Bonta, because what
these people, they're never really doinggood. Anybody in a political arena like
that will turn against their their singerquote friends if it does benefit that.
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Yeah. So Michael Monks from KFINews was there to see the ninety three
people arrested last night and joins us, Now, Michael, quite the eventful
day for you, huh? Itwas, indeed, So thanks for starting
this segment with that Shania Twain songI'm Ready to Rock. Let's Go Girls.
Indeed, you know, it wasn'tas crazy a scene as we've seen
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on some of the other college campusesacross the country, But you got the
sense that folks on on both sides, whether it be law enforcement or some
of the students and others who wereprotesting, they anticipated that it could be
and I think that was mostly evidencedafter the field of protesters was cleared and
the arrest were made by the dumpingof gallon after gallon of milk, which
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I learned is used to subdue anytype of effects from tear gas. Now,
none of the action ever rose tothat level, but you could sense
from that preparation on the protester sideand really the riot gear of the police
department, that there was an anticipationor an expectation that it could have gotten
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there. It didn't, though,Yeah, and we're going to see this
move to UCLA. We know thatthere's a call for them. They've already
started putting up tents and similar thingsthat we saw from yesterday at USC.
What is the school going to donow? I mean, there are restrictions
now in terms of who can beon campus and who can't. But what
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does that entail? I mean,are they only allowing students and faculty on
campus today? If you visited USCduring the height of COVID at all,
you probably recall how difficult it wasto get in, and that's what it
looked like last night. All ofthe gates were closed and you had to
check in at a specific entrance.That those were precautions that were taken to
prevent a flood of people, Isuppose joining in the protest or joining in
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just to watch, like a lotof people where they're just spectating. So
I think what you have to donow is you have to have a reason
to be on campus, like class, or you have official business to conduct
on the campus, and you haveto check in at a special entrance.
So those are the precautions that arebeing taken this morning, I suppose,
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in order to avoid a repeat,and we are seeing that. Of course,
as you just noted, this typeof movement has spread to the UCLA
campus. It's very early in theday for that doesn't look like a whole
lot of activity. We're monitoring that, but it does look like similar demands
and similar setup. They just putout a call for supplies tents, bullhorns,
art supplies, I guess arts supply. Oh. I also make pictures,
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may signs or not like making likeknitting or mosaics or something like that
as a time was well. Hopefullythings remained peaceful. It certainly looked like
everything was in order, and likeGary said earlier, he got to hand
it to the campus police and theLAPD for handling things the way that they
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handled them as well. Again,I'll also point out the protesters that were
going to be arrested knew they weregoing to be arrested, and they didn't
they didn't act like morons. Itwas an interesting scene watching that because there
was a group of protesters who hadrefused to leave a certain part of Alumni
Park, and so they sat downand locked arms, and then they were
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surrounded by a circle of police whowere basically blocking the rest of the protesters
and the spectators and the media.And then as the evening wore on,
one by one, with several minutesbetween each one, they would surrender it
and have their hands secured and marchedoff to applause from the other protesters,
and it was just a very subdued, quiet scene as one by one they
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eliminated themselves into the arms of thepolice, and as we know now,
more than ninety of them ended upbeing arrested. Michael Monks, thank you
so much. Appreciate it, mypleasure. You mentioned earlier that you were
at that protest in Golden Gate Parkback when you were seventeen. Hey,
Gary, Shaan Forrest and twenty ninepalms. Back in the day when I
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was in high school sixty seven andseventy one, we had protests too that
we went too. But we didn'tgo for the protests. We went for
the music. Get out of schooland have all the smoking pots smog a
little. Yeah, yeah, Iremember drugs were involved. Well, right,
all right, coming up next,grizzly bears. They're not so bad.
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They're not well, guys, Ihad a bear in my backyard two
days ago. Okay, you don'thave to show off. I didn't even
react anymore. I'm just like myI was talking to my husband in the
bedroom. We have a slider andI was looking past him and I said,
oh, there's a bear in thebackyard. I don't even think my
blood pressure moved. It's just itis what. It is, not like
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the old days when you used toscream and I used to lock yourself in
the back exactly. I totally did. They can go through that glass.
They can go through the glass.They can go through the bathroom. I
know that, but it made mefeel good to have another barrier. Okay,
credible sighting of a grizzly bear inthe state of California is nineteen twenty
four. They said. At onepoint there may have been as many as
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ten thousand grizzly bears living in California, but for all intents and purposes,
they are extinct here. In January, a team of experts from UC Santa
Barbara, led by ecologist Alexis Shashasha, published a paper about the I'm not
kidding, I know you're not mycchaj L I W shush sh They talked
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about the diet of California grizzly bearit's people and diet as people. Well,
no, that's the whole thing isit's not people. They said that
all the stories that went around,especially gold rush time people starting to flood
into California, they had this romanticizedbut terrifying version of what a grizzly bear
was, that it's larger than life, that it eats people, that it
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attacks campsites and towns, and thatsort of thing. So this team of
ecologists decided to go through for thesefrontier reports to get some of the data
also from bear bones that exist,and I mean be ear bones that exist,
so that they could test them andsee, you know, for example,
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how big were they. Well,they were about six feet long and
four hundred and forty pounds. Ithink we all know somebody that's around that
size, but that's not larger thanan average bear. I mean six foot
for forty. That's you know,you don't know anyone who's six feet and
four forty. I could probably findsome. The second thing they found out
is that diet, right that bones. Before the first white people arrived in
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California, bears were only getting aboutten percent of their diet because other land
animals, because the bears were friendswith the Native Americans, and when the
white people, the evil whites,swooped in, the bears didn't like them,
so they ate them. No,that's not what it was. It
was. It was that when Europeanstyle farming came in and we started doing
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things like like taking their land,they started eating us. No, no,
we would pin in our cows andour sheep and things like that,
which gave the bears. Hey,that's a free treat in a box that
I don't have to chase, sothey would eat the cows and the bears,
among other things. Because the otherpart about it is the Native American
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tribes that lived in and around Californiadidn't eat grizzly bear. They would eat
big animals, but they would noteat grizzly bear. They saw them,
they revered them, yea, andin many cases would use this is not
the right. I don't know ifthis is necessarily reference. But they knew
they were important enough they would givebear cubs to the leaders of the other
tribes in their area as gifts.Yeah, and say this is a wonderful
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thing. They coexisted together, andthen came the evil whites, and the
grizzly saw what the white people didto the Native Americans, so the grizzly
started eating the white people. It'snot exactly what they came. I didn't
read the article, no kidding.The idea of reintroducing grizzlies to California is
coming back. There's talking about ninetyfive percent of the brown bears that live
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in the US are in Alaska,but that there is also a stable population
in and around Yellowstone and a handfulof sidings between Montana, Idaho, and
Washington, but as of right now, they are still listed as endangered in
the lower forty eight states. Theysaw you and they said, chomp,
chomp, chomp. I'll bet youtastes like vanilla. It's like a nice
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bowl of vanilla ice cream. Well, yeah, Margie, you've been listening
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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty, the
Gary and Shannon Show on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. Well, one of
George Gascone, the guy who's squattingin the DA's office, one of his
top advisors, if not his topadvisor. Commonly referred to the wicked Witch
in the West, the fox inthe hen house. A woman who worked
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for the Public Defender's Office going afterlaw Enforcement. Is the person that he
appointed his right hand woman in theDA's office when he was elected. She
has now been brought up on criminalcharges. The California Attorney General has filed
criminal charges against Diana Turan eleven felonyaccounts. Eleven felony account excuse me,
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Deputy DA. John McKinney, friendof the show, joins us now from
inside the dungeon of the DA's officewith an update. Break it down for
us, like we're four, John, this was this woman's been a real
nightmare for you guys, right,Yes, absolutely, she has Well,
her name is Diana Turan. Togive a quick synopsis of her employment history,
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she was a deputy District Attorney formany years. She left our office
and took a job with the Sheriff'sDepartment to be an advisor on constitutional policing.
She then left the Sheriff's department towork for the Office of Inspector General
again in the role of oversight ofthe sheriff's department. She left the Office
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of the Inspector General to become aconsultant for the Public Defender's Office, again
in the role of consulting on constitutionalpolicing. And then she was hired by
George gascon to return to the DA'soffice. And apparently she came back bearing
what the Public Defenders and Gasconne musthave seen as gifts. This illegally obtained
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or allegedly illegally obtained information about elevensheriff deputies. Well, so there's a
couple questions. For example, ifformer Sheriff Alex Viannaweva was the first one
to kind of blow the whistle onthis woman and suggests that she was downloading
information about sheriff's deputies, he describedit as a massive data breach. Did
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George Gascone know that that was goingon when he appointed her or hired her
back in the DA's office with likeyou said, this treasure trove of information.
What did he know and when didhe know it? Those are the
two questions that should be rolling offof every reporter's tongue today. I think
he had to know. I mean, this story wasn't hidden from the public.
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It was publicly reported in La Timesas early as twenty nineteen, and
George Gascone didn't become district Attorney untilthe end of twenty twenty and a report
that I saw said that she wascooperating in the investigation. So it's hard
to imagine that he hired her intwenty twenty one without knowing that there were
concerns about her obtaining this information illegally, that there was an investigation, and
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then did he not only hire herin light of that information, he put
her in charge of the very divisionsin the DA's office that have the responsibility
of police officer misconduct and other membersof the justice system misconduct as well.
Knowing what we know about George gasconthough he may not even have known it
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was illegal, you know, hehas such little information when it comes to
the law and how it all worksthat I wouldn't be surprised. I mean,
she's the one who knows what she'sdoing. She essentially infiltrated the DA's
office to burn it down from theinside with this information. What happened to
the information about this cops? Howdid the Public Defender's office use it?
Do we know? Well, Ithink this disinvestigation should be massive. We
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don't know based on reporting as ofyesterday, whether she shared this information with
the public defenders, although you kindof have to imagine she did. The
allegation right now is that she sharedit or she included it into the prosecutor's
databases, which is really pernicious because, for those who don't know, some
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changes in the law resulted in prosecutorshaving to affirmatively disclose information to the defense
that might be helpful to a defendantthat might bear upon the credibility of police
officers and other witnesses as well.So we keep our own database separate and
apartment apart from what police departments keep. So she allegedly illegally obtained information back
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in twenty eighteen that part of thatmassive download that shared fill in the way
of complained about and she carried thatinformation into the DA's office and had it
uploaded into our databases. Now,when she did that, she knew that
we deputy DA's, we prosecutors havean affirmative duty to turn that information over
(05:06):
to defense attorneys. So we becameunwitting participants and the network of disclosing this
information to defense attorneys. And oncedefense attorneys get it, who knows where
it goes. Wow, So shewas just sandbagging your cases and you had
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no idea. Essentially right, Andthere have been a lot of complaints about
these databases. A lot of DA'shave raised concerns that there was information being
uploaded that was irrelevant, that wasnot necessarily well vetted, that could really
hurt the reputation of police officers whenthere was no real credible reason for it.
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When Miss Turan was brought over fromthe Public Defender's office, I don't
know, you guys probably reported onthe fact that she was still on the
payroll of the Public Defender while shewas working inside the DA's office. A
clear conflict of inter Yeah, thatwas brought to his attention at the time.
He not only ignored it, heembraced it. He made her a
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permanent employee. He put her Ithink she was the number three person in
the office in charge of the justicesystem Integrity Division in charge of Public Integrity
Division. She played a major rolein a re sentencing of cases. I
mean literally had a role in lettingkillers out of prison early. She has
touched a lot of things in ouroffice that now I think has to be
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subject to review. And any caseinvolving a police officer could be corrupted based
on this information. And I don'tthink it's too too strong of a word.
That is corruption. This is We'veseen a lot of really nonsensical things
out of the Gascon administration. Wehaven't seen a real clear cutcase of corruption
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like this may turn out to be. Wow, yeah, I mean you
look at the current cases, pastcases, future cases a lot affected by
what she did. I mean,you can make a case that Gascon is
just a dumb dumb or the devil, but she clearly knew what she was
doing. And not to mention,isn't like his another one of his command
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staffed. Didn't he get in troublefor that weird d y situation not that
long? Like yeah, just likesurrounds himself with just terrible lawbreakers. It's
perfect, perfect that you brought thatup, because there's a bonta factor here
that shouldn't be lost on people.Rob Bonta, the Attorney General is a
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longtime friend and ally of George Gascon. So the fact that these complaints,
this complaint and these charges came outof his office makes this a real wow
factor. This is what is reallysending shockwaves throughout the entire criminal justice system
and should be La County as awhole. These charges came from an entrenched
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Democrat who is not only a personalfriend, but a political ally of George
Gascon. He had to know thatwhen this complaint was found that it was
going to damage an already very weakGeorge Gascone going into this November election.
So, I mean, I canonly surmise from the fact that these charges
were brought now that they are solidand the Attorney General is very confident in
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them. And we, like yousaid, we've seen a case go to
the Attorney General's office before to dieand that's when George Gascon's I think then
chief deputy was accused of interfering withthe police investigation during a dui stop.
That case went to the Attorney General'soffice. We never heard from the Attorney
General audit until the Statute of Limitationshad passed. So a lot of people
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speculated that it was political. Youknow, politics came into play on that.
I'm not saying it did. Idon't know, but you know,
kind of curious that it played outthat way. So to see that same
Attorney General bring these charges and notjust bring the charges in a complaint.
He made some statements, some quote, very powerful quotes that no one is
above the law, you know,and if somebody's going to be put in
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charge of ethics and integrity, thenthen that person has to live up to
the position that they have. Souh, you know, this is just
the beginning. Gascone is done.This is dire, excellent, this is
dire for him. I think he'sdone. He's running against a very capable
candidate, Nathan Hoffman, somebody who'shad an impeccable career, somebody who is
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is the personification of integrity. Uh. Nathan Hockin actually was the presidents of
the La City Ethics Commission for fiveyears. So uh, you know,
you know, to say this isgood news for people who want change,
I think it's good news. Somaybe those people who will finally get of
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the idea and the message that thoseof us who have been criticized in this
administration for the last three and ahalf years. Haven't been doing it on
you out of a sense that wejust don't want reform. We want meaning
for reform, common sense reform.We don't want corrupt reform. John McKenney,
thank you so much. Appreciate yourtime and for that breaking that down
(10:20):
for us. We're talking about thesefelony charges that have now been announced by
the State Attorney General's Office against AssistantDA Diana Tehran he robed BoNT to.
The Attorney General accused her of improperlydownloading confidential police records in twenty eighteen while
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she was working for the La CountySheriff's Department, and that she impermissively used
that information after she joined George Gasconin the DA's office three years later,
and knowing that the prosecutors have alegal obligation to turn over all of that
information about officers that maybe untoward tothe defense in cases, and in some
(11:03):
cases it really ruins a case tohave that information turned over or the even
knowledge of that information that they haveto turn over. Her lawyer, by
the way, James Spurtus, saysthis case is dead on arrival said,
they're charging her for doing something withinthe scope of her employment that she has
(11:24):
a duty to do. Now,if when she was working at the Sheriff's
department she had some reason to downloadconfidential police records, okay, but she
took those with her, and that'spart of the allegation is she took them
with her. Can't do that whenshe changed jobs and was working for either
the Public Defender or the DA's office, and you cannot do that. And
(11:48):
it'll be interesting, like John said, as the investigation unfolds into what the
Public Defender's Office had that they shouldnot have had. Here's another fun fact.
What was that attorney's name, JamesSpurtis. James Spurtis. He is
also on the legal team for RebeccaGrossman, who ran she oversaw that case.
(12:11):
I mean, just the incest andthe conflicts of interest are unbelievable that
that's able to go on. ThatYou're able to go and work at the
Public Defender's Office investigating cops and thengo lead the DA's office and sandbag those
cops by putting their information into thefiles, using weaponizing district attorneys to go
(12:37):
after the people that they work with, to put the bad guys away.
What a devil incarnate. And JohnMcKinney made a great point, think about
how close rob Bonta and George Gasconhave been over the years, how egregious
this case must have been, andhow over the top the evidence is that
George rob Bonta felt obligated to filethese charges as opposed to finding some way
(13:03):
to just kind of make letting thisthing disappear, you know, stay in
a file something. I'm skeptical aboutthat, about the truth or the solidity
of that friendship, or if there'ssomething in it for Bonta, because what
these people, they're never really doinggood. Anybody in a political arena like
that will turn against their their singerquote friends if it does benefit that.
(13:28):
Yeah. So Michael Monks from KFINews was there to see the ninety three
people arrested last night and joins us, Now, Michael, quite the eventful
day for you, huh? Itwas, indeed, So thanks for starting
this segment with that Shania Twain songI'm Ready to Rock. Let's Go Girls.
Indeed, you know, it wasn'tas crazy a scene as we've seen
(13:50):
on some of the other college campusesacross the country, But you got the
sense that folks on on both sides, whether it be law enforcement or some
of the students and others who wereprotesting, they anticipated that it could be
and I think that was mostly evidencedafter the field of protesters was cleared and
the arrest were made by the dumpingof gallon after gallon of milk, which
(14:13):
I learned is used to subdue anytype of effects from tear gas. Now,
none of the action ever rose tothat level, but you could sense
from that preparation on the protester sideand really the riot gear of the police
department, that there was an anticipationor an expectation that it could have gotten
(14:33):
there. It didn't, though,Yeah, and we're going to see this
move to UCLA. We know thatthere's a call for them. They've already
started putting up tents and similar thingsthat we saw from yesterday at USC.
What is the school going to donow? I mean, there are restrictions
now in terms of who can beon campus and who can't. But what
(14:54):
does that entail? I mean,are they only allowing students and faculty on
campus today? If you visited USCduring the height of COVID at all,
you probably recall how difficult it wasto get in, and that's what it
looked like last night. All ofthe gates were closed and you had to
check in at a specific entrance.That those were precautions that were taken to
prevent a flood of people, Isuppose joining in the protest or joining in
(15:16):
just to watch, like a lotof people where they're just spectating. So
I think what you have to donow is you have to have a reason
to be on campus, like class, or you have official business to conduct
on the campus, and you haveto check in at a special entrance.
So those are the precautions that arebeing taken this morning, I suppose,
(15:37):
in order to avoid a repeat,and we are seeing that. Of course,
as you just noted, this typeof movement has spread to the UCLA
campus. It's very early in theday for that doesn't look like a whole
lot of activity. We're monitoring that, but it does look like similar demands
and similar setup. They just putout a call for supplies tents, bullhorns,
art supplies, I guess arts supply. Oh. I also make pictures,
(15:58):
may signs or not like making likeknitting or mosaics or something like that
as a time was well. Hopefullythings remained peaceful. It certainly looked like
everything was in order, and likeGary said earlier, he got to hand
it to the campus police and theLAPD for handling things the way that they
(16:19):
handled them as well. Again,I'll also point out the protesters that were
going to be arrested knew they weregoing to be arrested, and they didn't
they didn't act like morons. Itwas an interesting scene watching that because there
was a group of protesters who hadrefused to leave a certain part of Alumni
Park, and so they sat downand locked arms, and then they were
(16:40):
surrounded by a circle of police whowere basically blocking the rest of the protesters
and the spectators and the media.And then as the evening wore on,
one by one, with several minutesbetween each one, they would surrender it
and have their hands secured and marchedoff to applause from the other protesters,
and it was just a very subdued, quiet scene as one by one they
(17:04):
eliminated themselves into the arms of thepolice, and as we know now,
more than ninety of them ended upbeing arrested. Michael Monks, thank you
so much. Appreciate it, mypleasure. You mentioned earlier that you were
at that protest in Golden Gate Parkback when you were seventeen. Hey,
Gary, Shaan Forrest and twenty ninepalms. Back in the day when I
(17:25):
was in high school sixty seven andseventy one, we had protests too that
we went too. But we didn'tgo for the protests. We went for
the music. Get out of schooland have all the smoking pots smog a
little. Yeah, yeah, Iremember drugs were involved. Well, right,
all right, coming up next,grizzly bears. They're not so bad.
(17:47):
They're not well, guys, Ihad a bear in my backyard two
days ago. Okay, you don'thave to show off. I didn't even
react anymore. I'm just like myI was talking to my husband in the
bedroom. We have a slider andI was looking past him and I said,
oh, there's a bear in thebackyard. I don't even think my
blood pressure moved. It's just itis what. It is, not like
(18:08):
the old days when you used toscream and I used to lock yourself in
the back exactly. I totally did. They can go through that glass.
They can go through the glass.They can go through the bathroom. I
know that, but it made mefeel good to have another barrier. Okay,
credible sighting of a grizzly bear inthe state of California is nineteen twenty
four. They said. At onepoint there may have been as many as
(18:32):
ten thousand grizzly bears living in California, but for all intents and purposes,
they are extinct here. In January, a team of experts from UC Santa
Barbara, led by ecologist Alexis Shashasha, published a paper about the I'm not
kidding, I know you're not mycchaj L I W shush sh They talked
(18:59):
about the diet of California grizzly bearit's people and diet as people. Well,
no, that's the whole thing isit's not people. They said that
all the stories that went around,especially gold rush time people starting to flood
into California, they had this romanticizedbut terrifying version of what a grizzly bear
was, that it's larger than life, that it eats people, that it
(19:19):
attacks campsites and towns, and thatsort of thing. So this team of
ecologists decided to go through for thesefrontier reports to get some of the data
also from bear bones that exist,and I mean be ear bones that exist,
so that they could test them andsee, you know, for example,
(19:42):
how big were they. Well,they were about six feet long and
four hundred and forty pounds. Ithink we all know somebody that's around that
size, but that's not larger thanan average bear. I mean six foot
for forty. That's you know,you don't know anyone who's six feet and
four forty. I could probably findsome. The second thing they found out
is that diet, right that bones. Before the first white people arrived in
(20:07):
California, bears were only getting aboutten percent of their diet because other land
animals, because the bears were friendswith the Native Americans, and when the
white people, the evil whites,swooped in, the bears didn't like them,
so they ate them. No,that's not what it was. It
was. It was that when Europeanstyle farming came in and we started doing
(20:30):
things like like taking their land,they started eating us. No, no,
we would pin in our cows andour sheep and things like that,
which gave the bears. Hey,that's a free treat in a box that
I don't have to chase, sothey would eat the cows and the bears,
among other things. Because the otherpart about it is the Native American
(20:52):
tribes that lived in and around Californiadidn't eat grizzly bear. They would eat
big animals, but they would noteat grizzly bear. They saw them,
they revered them, yea, andin many cases would use this is not
the right. I don't know ifthis is necessarily reference. But they knew
they were important enough they would givebear cubs to the leaders of the other
tribes in their area as gifts.Yeah, and say this is a wonderful
(21:15):
thing. They coexisted together, andthen came the evil whites, and the
grizzly saw what the white people didto the Native Americans, so the grizzly
started eating the white people. It'snot exactly what they came. I didn't
read the article, no kidding.The idea of reintroducing grizzlies to California is
coming back. There's talking about ninetyfive percent of the brown bears that live
(21:38):
in the US are in Alaska,but that there is also a stable population
in and around Yellowstone and a handfulof sidings between Montana, Idaho, and
Washington, but as of right now, they are still listed as endangered in
the lower forty eight states. Theysaw you and they said, chomp,
chomp, chomp. I'll bet youtastes like vanilla. It's like a nice
(22:02):
bowl of vanilla ice cream. Well, yeah, Margie, you've been listening
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