April 25, 2024 • 22 mins
SwampWatch: Trump back in NYC courtroom to determine if he’s immune from criminal prosecution, Supreme court arguments continue. Harvey Weinstein’s case overturned. TechTalk: Marc Saltzman explains the look between the two letters on your key meme. Secret Service agent on VP Harris' detail removed from assignment after physical fight while on duty, he was hospitalized after exhibiting distressing behavior.
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This is Gary and Shannon, andyou're listening to KFI A M six forty,
the Gary and Shannon Show on demandon the iHeartRadio app. Former President
Trump back in the New York Citycourtroom today for the criminal hush money trials
Supreme Court considering whether the same guyis immune from criminal prosecution for acts he
took an office. Why don't juststart swamp waught? Right? Oh yeah,
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that's good. Knew swamp is horrible. So government doesn't work. Man,
gonna make this like a reality TVshow, Bad noos. Always a
pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,DC. Hey, Joe, a town
hall too, clearly built on aswamp and in so many ways still a
swamp. I have to watch itmake Nobody said, drained the swamp.
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I said, Oh that's so hekeepsh you know the thing. So it's
hard to it's hard to do this. It's hard to go through and listen
to two and a half three hoursof Supreme Court arguments because very few of
us have the law degrees that thesejustices have, that these attorneys have,
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that they are the top of theirgame. This is like walking up and
Transsuperbowl ninety four mile an hour fastball, Yeah, when you're called off the
bench. But we can read intoat least some of what the Supreme Court
justices are thinking based on the questionsthat they asked the attorneys and the conservative
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majority, you know six to threemajority right now, the six' to
three conservative majority majority does seem tobe poised to kind of narrow down the
scope of the criminal case against formerPresident Trump on the charges that he tried
to subvert the election. This wasthe question that I had going in,
What is going to be the scope? It's up to them, right the
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ruling could come in June. Itcould forever alter the boundaries of presidential power.
As Neil Gorsich said, we arewriting a rule for the ages.
So here are some of the bigtakeaways. They do seem to generally agree
in broad terms that Trump does nothave blanket immunity. Yeah, it's not
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all powerful immunity, et cetera.But that even if they decide that there
is not blanket immunity, that addsa time element to this that will push
the trial back even farther because they'regoing to send it back to the lower
court to figure out what kind ofconduct constitutes personal conduct. Versus official conduct.
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Now, I don't remember if itwas Elena Kagan, I think it
was who said the president in hisofficial capacity has zero role in certifying an
election. So anything he was doingin terms of the certification of the election
or trying to affect the outcome ofthat certification would have been a personal It
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would have been personal conduct, notprofessional. So therefore it would not be
immune from prosecution. It's not illegal, it's not in his job description,
right. Chief Justice John Roberts alludedto making this even more time consuming and
complicated. He went after the Courtof Appeals decision for the DC Circuit that
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denied Trump's immunity claim. He saidthat the decision back in February says,
in essence that a former president canbe prosecuted because he's being prosecuted. He
called it circular reasoning. He said, it concerns me. And then he
says, why shouldn't we either sendit back to the Court of Appeals or
issue an opinion making clear that it'snot the law. He said, you
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know how easy it is in manycases for a prosecutor to get a grand
jury to bring an indictment. Thatwould be a lot more many more hurdles
to jump over break. Kavanaugh alsotalked about the question of whether without immunity,
presidents would be hounded by by theirrivals with charges after they left office.
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As an example, I mean PresidentTrump has said multiple times on social
media, if I'm not immune,that means that Joe Biden's not immune,
which alludes to the idea that hewould then go after or try to weaponize
his Department of Justice if he's electedagain, that he would try to weaponize
his Department of Justice to go afterBiden. Oh yeah, that's what Kavanaugh
was talking about. He says thatthe trend of prosecutors investigating presidents is only
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growing. It's not going to stop. It's just going to cycle back and
be used by both parties. Ohboy, Well, it's the one thing
I think, the one thing,like you said, is very clear.
No one believes that blanket immunity exists, right, No one intended for it
to be that way, and itdoes not exist. But even when you
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get into those weird hypotheticals of SealTeam six taking out a political rival,
assassinating somebody who you don't who youthink is corrupt, one of the questions
is if the what if the militarystage decoup? That was Elena Kagan's question
from this morning. How A butif a president orders the military to stage
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a coup, which I don't quiteunderstand though, I think that as the
Chief Justice pointed out earlier, wherethere is a whole series of you know,
sort of guidelines against that, soto speak, like the UCMJ prohibits
the military from following a plainfully unlawfulact. If one adopted Justice Alito's test,
that would fall outside that's a goodargument. Yeah, he's a brilliant
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man, But it was also whywould the what I understand about the the
question was who's who are they overthrowing? If he's the president president, who's
the ordering? A coup is thewrong word to use because a coup,
like you said, goes after theperson in power or the administration and power.
If you are assassinating a political rival, you're assassinating a political rival.
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It's not a more accurate question.All right, Clearly we should be Supreme
Court justice because we understand how toask questions. Obviously, AHV did you
hear? Okay? Yesterday we playedBiden reading the stage directions on the teleprompters,
cause did you hear the line thathe said about Donald Trump's hair,
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Yeah, the bleach, Yeah.Yeah. We're in a great place of
political discourse in this country. Wementioned that the rape conviction of Harvey Weinstein
has been overturned by a court inNew York. New York Court of Appeals
overturned the conviction against three women,finding that the trial judge erroneously admitted testimony
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of uncharged alleged prior sexual acts againstpersons other than the complainants. And we
talked earlier about it about how thisis something that happens where they bring in
people to show a pattern of behavior. The appeals court in this case found
that the judge should not have allowedthat in for whatever reason, maybe they
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went too far. They had toomany people taking the stand to show a
pattern of bad behavior from Harvey Weinstein. A surreal moment when the judge declared
a lunch break at Donald Trump's StormyDaniels hush money, bad Bookkeeping trial.
The judge declares a lunch break,and Harvey Weinstein's attorney holds court outside that
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court, mentioning Trump's case. Whilespeaking about his client's win. Today,
boy, he said, a judgewill sit in her chambers and look at
the law and look at the presidentwithout fear or favor, and say,
I don't care who the defendant is. If it's the former president of the
United States or the most storied Hollywoodproducer of our generation, the law applies
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to everyone. Oh boy, whereare we? Where are we? Where
are we in this world? Courtis back in session at least the people
are back in the court room forthe falsified business records trial for President Trump.
Michael Cohen at one point asked tospeak with the Now, She'll inquire
a publisher, David Pecker to speakwith Donald Trump. After Cohen said he
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was worried he wasn't going to gethis Christmas bonus because I guess he was
the one making the hush money paymentsout of pocket to Stormy Daniels, and
David Pecker testified, Michael said tome he wasn't reimbursed for the monies they
were owed to him on the StormyDaniels payment. He asked me if I
would talk to the boss on hisbehalf to tell him everything he did to
try to help him get his bonus. And when Pecker eventually did speak with
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Donald Trump about Michael Cohen. Hepassed along that Cohen was really concerned about
his bonus and that he believed MichaelCohen would throw himself under the bus for
him. Trump said he didn't havea clue about what Pecker was talking about,
saying that Cohen owned multiple apartments inTrump Tower and had fifty taxi medallions
worth a million dollars each, andhe said, don't worry about it.
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I'll take care of it. OnJanuary sixth, twenty seventeen, after Trump
had become president, Pecker went tothe Trump Tower again to meet with Trump.
When he arrives, James Comy,Sean Spicer, rinse Prebus, and
Mike Pompeo were there, updating Trumpabout a shooting that had just occurred.
Trump introduced Pecker to each of them, telling them Pecker was the publisher of
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the National Inquirer and he probably knowsmore than anybody else in this room,
Pecker said. Unfortunately, they didn'tlaugh. After they left, Trump asked
Pecker about Karen McDougall, saying,how's our girl doing. Pecker said,
Trump told him, I want tothank you for handling the McDougall situation.
He also said, I want tothank you for the Doorman situation. David
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Pecker said, I felt that hewas thanking me for buying these stories and
for not publishing any of the storiesand helping the way that I did.
Wow, I guess In that sameconversation, he asked, how's our girl
doing? Yeah about Karen McDougall.Yeah, he poked a hole as well.
David Pecker did it in one ofthe defenses by testifying that David Pecker
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never thought Trump sought to have thesedamaging stories buried for the sake of protecting
his family. Pecker said, Ithought it was for the campaign. The
family was never mentioned. It's funnybecause that was John Edwards defense when he
got brought up on charges for usingcampaign money to hide the girl he was
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having an affair and a secret lovechild with, and he said, I
did it. I used campaign cashbecause my wife is dying of cancer and
I didn't want her to find outabout it. Yeah. Gross on all
accounts, Well, what are wetalking about? He was trying to protect
his wife through a very tough timemm hmm by boning the other woman to
the point of pregnancy, to thepoint of pure It was a weird turn
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of phrase. Sorry, I don'tknow. I don't know. You know
you do it hard and long enough, boy, I guarantee you take seat.
I realize that's not how it works. Yeah, kids, that's not
how it works. Use protection.Mm hmmm. It's gonna happen in the
blink of an eye. Mm hmm. One little swimmer gets through. Mm
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hmm. It's off to the races. Mm then the baby. Anyway,
let me play this from me yesterdaybecause this was this was a laugh line.
That was all of the laugh linesyesterday for Biden's speech in front of
union members. By the way,I remember who was trying to deal with
Covidy. So just subject a littlebleach in your vans? He said,
he missed it all went to hishair. Can't we be above wit?
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You know what I think he's tryingto do. I shouldn't have said that.
Now, that's the other part aboutit where he always says these little,
these little jibes, and then says, ah, I shouldn't have said
that. I'm a good Catholic boy. I'm gonna get in trouble for that.
There's a school of thought that youshould hold yourself above the discourse that
Donald Trump engages in. But there'salso the school of thought of Biden,
like that doesn't appear as old asBiden can appear true that they know,
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Yes, they appears juvenile. It'sgood. Well, it's like he was
saying the other the SoundBite from yesterdaywhere he's like, everybody knows that guy.
You want to get him out ofcorner and get him a straight left.
Yeah, you know that's the moreenergetic version, right of Joe.
So do you want your jeopardy question? Sure? Okay? The category is
couplehood for four hundred dollars. Couplehoodmarried since nineteen ninety nine. Two became
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one after this couple met up inthe Manchester United Players Lounge. You know,
don't overthink it. She just hada birth date, didn't she.
David Beckham and spicy Spicy Spice Victory, Yes, which spice? Is she
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scary spice? She's scary spice?Yeah. Mondo just got pissed that I
didn't know that. Did you hearthat? Scary? Come on, guys,
you heard that. Gary really upsetman. When I played chess,
we had all kinds of clouds.We're throwing clouds to right. We have
big clocks, little clocks, eightybaby, funny looking clocks, all kinds
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of clocks. We got to getour clocks out for this play of chess.
Wow, what have we done?Oh? We David Packer is his
name? Yeah, all right,it's time for tech talking. The machines
are getting smarter. This is techTalk to you by sky Net pay Mark.
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I was like saluting. I wasnot taking a knee. I was
all ready to keep this going.But well, at the New York Airport,
I'm not LaGuardia. Yeah, we'lltalk about what was going on in
New York that that took you tothe Big Apple today. Yeah, the
Big Apple. I had a TVgig this morning in honor of next week's
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National Small Business Week, And soI did about twenty five interviews across the
country, just boom, boom,boom, one after the other, starting
at like seven am and finishing upat noon and on my way back home
now, so in and out.So you're tired of talking, is what
you're saying, and you're you feelbad? Little would I miss? Would
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I voluntarily miss Garyan Shannon Show interview? No, that's not on my watch
The Court Show? And just anothermoment. I saw this meme going around
yesterday and it picked up speed andthen it was quickly annoying. It was
the look between the I and theP on your keyboard? Oh yeah,
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whatever as an answer to a question, whether it's a hyperbolic question or not,
but a hypothetical whatever, what's goingon here? What's happening? Explain
the meme to us. Sure,So this is by far the most annoying
meme that we've seen on x formerlyTwitter and other platforms as well. But
yeah, so this is referred toas the look between the letters on your
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keyboard meme That started, funny enoughthree years ago on four chan when there
was a character who plays an animecharacter on kon, which is a show.
Her name is is We and it'swhy Ui. She put this.
She tweeted this out three years ago, Look between the letters T and O
on the keyboard and it spells hername. So that was kind of like
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at least relevant to what she wastrying to just be cute that her name
in order on a quarty keyboard waswhy you I. But somehow three years
later, starting since about April Fool'sDay, we've seen thousands of annoying.
People on X say look behind lookbetween these two letters, and in most
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cases it is doesn't make any senseat all. There's been a cute sort
of take a couple of takes onit from Sony that said, you know
who's going to watch Spider Man tootonight? Look between why and I on
your keyboard, which is the letteryou. We had Manchester City do something
the soccer team, and we hadthe Guinness World Records last week, wrote
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applicant, I want to break therecord for the longest time without sleep,
And then they said, look betweenT and you on your keyboard, which
is the letter why, Like whywould you want to break the record for
the longest time without sleep? Soin most cases it is not logical and
it's just really annoying. This iscollectively referred to as engagement bait, so
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because of the way x's algorithm works, it reads it as an interaction even
though there aren't any responses usually postedor it doesn't count, but still can
boost your engagement behind the scenes sothat others can find and follow you.
So there's a reason why people aredoing this other than is jumping on the
stupid bandwagon. But yeah, ifyou see this. Look between the letters
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on your keyboard. Meme pop upon your Exeed, just keep scrolling.
It's so dumb. You know it'sNFL. Did one look between H and
L on your keyboard and it's JKjust kidding. So yeah, take the
NFL NFL Memes account and just keepscrolling because this is going to be one
meme that's going to die out veryfast. The draft memes are incredible.
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I mean, that's where I've lostmy day mark. Well, if this
is like, I can't think.I can think of a million things I'd
rather be doing than this. Butwe have to acknowledge it because it has
taken the social media by storm.But by this chat next week, on
next week's Tech Talk Thursday, itwill hopefully be long forgotten. I hope.
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So. I mean it's been around, like you said, it's been
around for a few years now.It's weird how the embers get stoked and
there's more oxygen that gets in thereand we create a fire once again.
So thank you, Thank you.Travel to know how I really feel.
Thank you, thank you. Ifyou really want to know how I feel
about this meme, look between theletters W and K on your know your
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day, Mark Saltzman, Take careof Yourself, Mark Saltsman. Follow him
on Twitter x M a ARC UnderscoreSaltsman. He's got some great tip tech
tips on there, including his recommendationfor a good power bank like a backup
battery for your for your phone ifyour battery starts to go or you're traveling
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a long distances. Got a coupleof different recommendations on there again, Mark
with a c Underscore Saltsman. KamalaHarris has a Secret Service detail and one
of her team members, one ofthe agents, exhibited distressing behavior at Joint
Base Andrews and was hospitalized. Shewasn't at the air base at the time,
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not like it's relevant or anyone cares, but the US Secret Services.
At about nine am, the agentbegan displaying behavior their colleagues found distressing.
You know that happens every day herethat we don't phone it in, that
we find people with distressing behavior.Yeah. There are also very few people
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who are trained weapons and carry weaponslike a Secret Service agent might. This
person had to be disarmed apparently wow. CBS News reports that the agent was
speaking incoherently, sprouting gibberish, andengaged with a physical fight with another officer.
I'm going to go out a limbhere and say that the agent was
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drunk. AI is kind of afancy thing. It's first swells, two
letters. Now, I don't likespeaking of gibberish the first of all.
It's two letters. I don't firstof all, the gibberish and the drunk
thing. I don't think maybe anextra an extra tab of something, maybe
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too many ambient the night before,that'd be bad. Some people pop those
things like skittles. The US SecretService, they said, is still in
a temporary holding pattern until further informationbecomes available. After the agent receives additional
medical attention and further evaluation, theywill figure out whether or not that agent
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can return back to work. Theysaid that this is being treated as a
medical incident, not a disciplinary matter, given the nature the mental health challenges
that were clearly exhibited by the agent. So we were also talking all morning
about what's what happened yesterday at USCand other campuses around the country and strikes
or protests that we have taken partin. Thank Arian Shed, I was
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going to share with you my favoriteprotest story when I was a young pup.
Actually junior high school, there wasa teacher strike going on, and
we all felt so passionately about it, obviously as students, so we did
it. We staged a walk outand it was really serious, and we
all walked out in the middle ofthe quad and the chant for that day
was taste great less pilling, Tastegreat less pilling, remember those good old
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days. But that's how we demonstratedthat that was big and the teachers settled
their issue a week later. Theonly protest I ever remember taking part in
was we were told in elementary schoolwe could not play on the grass in
big blacktop. Obviously, but therewas a huge grass field and we were
told we couldn't play on the grass. We weren't told why, so we
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all made little signs that said letus on the grass, or keep on
the grass, or whatever it was. And it turned out that somebody the
night before had been had used thegrass as their drinking spot. So there's
a bunch of broken beer bottles outon the grass. But they didn't tell
us that. We had to findout later after the protest. Who organized
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this protest I have known, Soit was just one day, you can't
be on the grass Yeah, andyou protested over that. Yeah, you
wanted the grass that badly. Wethought that's what you're supposed to do,
to write the injustices of the world. How that was in Aga four urth
grade. Probably Wow. Let uson the grass, Let us on the
Keep on the grass, Google,Google, keep on the Grass. You've
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been listening to The Gary and ShannonShow. You can always hear us live
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and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadioapp.
This is Gary and Shannon, andyou're listening to KFI A M six forty,
the Gary and Shannon Show on demandon the iHeartRadio app. Former President
Trump back in the New York Citycourtroom today for the criminal hush money trials
Supreme Court considering whether the same guyis immune from criminal prosecution for acts he
took an office. Why don't juststart swamp waught? Right? Oh yeah,
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that's good. Knew swamp is horrible. So government doesn't work. Man,
gonna make this like a reality TVshow, Bad noos. Always a
pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,DC. Hey, Joe, a town
hall too, clearly built on aswamp and in so many ways still a
swamp. I have to watch itmake Nobody said, drained the swamp.
(00:43):
I said, Oh that's so hekeepsh you know the thing. So it's
hard to it's hard to do this. It's hard to go through and listen
to two and a half three hoursof Supreme Court arguments because very few of
us have the law degrees that thesejustices have, that these attorneys have,
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that they are the top of theirgame. This is like walking up and
Transsuperbowl ninety four mile an hour fastball, Yeah, when you're called off the
bench. But we can read intoat least some of what the Supreme Court
justices are thinking based on the questionsthat they asked the attorneys and the conservative
(01:25):
majority, you know six to threemajority right now, the six' to
three conservative majority majority does seem tobe poised to kind of narrow down the
scope of the criminal case against formerPresident Trump on the charges that he tried
to subvert the election. This wasthe question that I had going in,
What is going to be the scope? It's up to them, right the
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ruling could come in June. Itcould forever alter the boundaries of presidential power.
As Neil Gorsich said, we arewriting a rule for the ages.
So here are some of the bigtakeaways. They do seem to generally agree
in broad terms that Trump does nothave blanket immunity. Yeah, it's not
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all powerful immunity, et cetera.But that even if they decide that there
is not blanket immunity, that addsa time element to this that will push
the trial back even farther because they'regoing to send it back to the lower
court to figure out what kind ofconduct constitutes personal conduct. Versus official conduct.
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Now, I don't remember if itwas Elena Kagan, I think it
was who said the president in hisofficial capacity has zero role in certifying an
election. So anything he was doingin terms of the certification of the election
or trying to affect the outcome ofthat certification would have been a personal It
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would have been personal conduct, notprofessional. So therefore it would not be
immune from prosecution. It's not illegal, it's not in his job description,
right. Chief Justice John Roberts alludedto making this even more time consuming and
complicated. He went after the Courtof Appeals decision for the DC Circuit that
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denied Trump's immunity claim. He saidthat the decision back in February says,
in essence that a former president canbe prosecuted because he's being prosecuted. He
called it circular reasoning. He said, it concerns me. And then he
says, why shouldn't we either sendit back to the Court of Appeals or
issue an opinion making clear that it'snot the law. He said, you
(03:38):
know how easy it is in manycases for a prosecutor to get a grand
jury to bring an indictment. Thatwould be a lot more many more hurdles
to jump over break. Kavanaugh alsotalked about the question of whether without immunity,
presidents would be hounded by by theirrivals with charges after they left office.
(04:00):
As an example, I mean PresidentTrump has said multiple times on social
media, if I'm not immune,that means that Joe Biden's not immune,
which alludes to the idea that hewould then go after or try to weaponize
his Department of Justice if he's electedagain, that he would try to weaponize
his Department of Justice to go afterBiden. Oh yeah, that's what Kavanaugh
was talking about. He says thatthe trend of prosecutors investigating presidents is only
(04:25):
growing. It's not going to stop. It's just going to cycle back and
be used by both parties. Ohboy, Well, it's the one thing
I think, the one thing,like you said, is very clear.
No one believes that blanket immunity exists, right, No one intended for it
to be that way, and itdoes not exist. But even when you
(04:45):
get into those weird hypotheticals of SealTeam six taking out a political rival,
assassinating somebody who you don't who youthink is corrupt, one of the questions
is if the what if the militarystage decoup? That was Elena Kagan's question
from this morning. How A butif a president orders the military to stage
(05:06):
a coup, which I don't quiteunderstand though, I think that as the
Chief Justice pointed out earlier, wherethere is a whole series of you know,
sort of guidelines against that, soto speak, like the UCMJ prohibits
the military from following a plainfully unlawfulact. If one adopted Justice Alito's test,
that would fall outside that's a goodargument. Yeah, he's a brilliant
(05:30):
man, But it was also whywould the what I understand about the the
question was who's who are they overthrowing? If he's the president president, who's
the ordering? A coup is thewrong word to use because a coup,
like you said, goes after theperson in power or the administration and power.
If you are assassinating a political rival, you're assassinating a political rival.
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It's not a more accurate question.All right, Clearly we should be Supreme
Court justice because we understand how toask questions. Obviously, AHV did you
hear? Okay? Yesterday we playedBiden reading the stage directions on the teleprompters,
cause did you hear the line thathe said about Donald Trump's hair,
(06:14):
Yeah, the bleach, Yeah.Yeah. We're in a great place of
political discourse in this country. Wementioned that the rape conviction of Harvey Weinstein
has been overturned by a court inNew York. New York Court of Appeals
overturned the conviction against three women,finding that the trial judge erroneously admitted testimony
(06:35):
of uncharged alleged prior sexual acts againstpersons other than the complainants. And we
talked earlier about it about how thisis something that happens where they bring in
people to show a pattern of behavior. The appeals court in this case found
that the judge should not have allowedthat in for whatever reason, maybe they
(06:56):
went too far. They had toomany people taking the stand to show a
pattern of bad behavior from Harvey Weinstein. A surreal moment when the judge declared
a lunch break at Donald Trump's StormyDaniels hush money, bad Bookkeeping trial.
The judge declares a lunch break,and Harvey Weinstein's attorney holds court outside that
(07:20):
court, mentioning Trump's case. Whilespeaking about his client's win. Today,
boy, he said, a judgewill sit in her chambers and look at
the law and look at the presidentwithout fear or favor, and say,
I don't care who the defendant is. If it's the former president of the
United States or the most storied Hollywoodproducer of our generation, the law applies
(07:41):
to everyone. Oh boy, whereare we? Where are we? Where
are we in this world? Courtis back in session at least the people
are back in the court room forthe falsified business records trial for President Trump.
Michael Cohen at one point asked tospeak with the Now, She'll inquire
a publisher, David Pecker to speakwith Donald Trump. After Cohen said he
(08:05):
was worried he wasn't going to gethis Christmas bonus because I guess he was
the one making the hush money paymentsout of pocket to Stormy Daniels, and
David Pecker testified, Michael said tome he wasn't reimbursed for the monies they
were owed to him on the StormyDaniels payment. He asked me if I
would talk to the boss on hisbehalf to tell him everything he did to
try to help him get his bonus. And when Pecker eventually did speak with
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Donald Trump about Michael Cohen. Hepassed along that Cohen was really concerned about
his bonus and that he believed MichaelCohen would throw himself under the bus for
him. Trump said he didn't havea clue about what Pecker was talking about,
saying that Cohen owned multiple apartments inTrump Tower and had fifty taxi medallions
worth a million dollars each, andhe said, don't worry about it.
(08:50):
I'll take care of it. OnJanuary sixth, twenty seventeen, after Trump
had become president, Pecker went tothe Trump Tower again to meet with Trump.
When he arrives, James Comy,Sean Spicer, rinse Prebus, and
Mike Pompeo were there, updating Trumpabout a shooting that had just occurred.
Trump introduced Pecker to each of them, telling them Pecker was the publisher of
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the National Inquirer and he probably knowsmore than anybody else in this room,
Pecker said. Unfortunately, they didn'tlaugh. After they left, Trump asked
Pecker about Karen McDougall, saying,how's our girl doing. Pecker said,
Trump told him, I want tothank you for handling the McDougall situation.
He also said, I want tothank you for the Doorman situation. David
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Pecker said, I felt that hewas thanking me for buying these stories and
for not publishing any of the storiesand helping the way that I did.
Wow, I guess In that sameconversation, he asked, how's our girl
doing? Yeah about Karen McDougall.Yeah, he poked a hole as well.
David Pecker did it in one ofthe defenses by testifying that David Pecker
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never thought Trump sought to have thesedamaging stories buried for the sake of protecting
his family. Pecker said, Ithought it was for the campaign. The
family was never mentioned. It's funnybecause that was John Edwards defense when he
got brought up on charges for usingcampaign money to hide the girl he was
(10:18):
having an affair and a secret lovechild with, and he said, I
did it. I used campaign cashbecause my wife is dying of cancer and
I didn't want her to find outabout it. Yeah. Gross on all
accounts, Well, what are wetalking about? He was trying to protect
his wife through a very tough timemm hmm by boning the other woman to
the point of pregnancy, to thepoint of pure It was a weird turn
(10:41):
of phrase. Sorry, I don'tknow. I don't know. You know
you do it hard and long enough, boy, I guarantee you take seat.
I realize that's not how it works. Yeah, kids, that's not
how it works. Use protection.Mm hmmm. It's gonna happen in the
blink of an eye. Mm hmm. One little swimmer gets through. Mm
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hmm. It's off to the races. Mm then the baby. Anyway,
let me play this from me yesterdaybecause this was this was a laugh line.
That was all of the laugh linesyesterday for Biden's speech in front of
union members. By the way,I remember who was trying to deal with
Covidy. So just subject a littlebleach in your vans? He said,
he missed it all went to hishair. Can't we be above wit?
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You know what I think he's tryingto do. I shouldn't have said that.
Now, that's the other part aboutit where he always says these little,
these little jibes, and then says, ah, I shouldn't have said
that. I'm a good Catholic boy. I'm gonna get in trouble for that.
There's a school of thought that youshould hold yourself above the discourse that
Donald Trump engages in. But there'salso the school of thought of Biden,
like that doesn't appear as old asBiden can appear true that they know,
(11:56):
Yes, they appears juvenile. It'sgood. Well, it's like he was
saying the other the SoundBite from yesterdaywhere he's like, everybody knows that guy.
You want to get him out ofcorner and get him a straight left.
Yeah, you know that's the moreenergetic version, right of Joe.
So do you want your jeopardy question? Sure? Okay? The category is
couplehood for four hundred dollars. Couplehoodmarried since nineteen ninety nine. Two became
(12:22):
one after this couple met up inthe Manchester United Players Lounge. You know,
don't overthink it. She just hada birth date, didn't she.
David Beckham and spicy Spicy Spice Victory, Yes, which spice? Is she
(12:43):
scary spice? She's scary spice?Yeah. Mondo just got pissed that I
didn't know that. Did you hearthat? Scary? Come on, guys,
you heard that. Gary really upsetman. When I played chess,
we had all kinds of clouds.We're throwing clouds to right. We have
big clocks, little clocks, eightybaby, funny looking clocks, all kinds
(13:07):
of clocks. We got to getour clocks out for this play of chess.
Wow, what have we done?Oh? We David Packer is his
name? Yeah, all right,it's time for tech talking. The machines
are getting smarter. This is techTalk to you by sky Net pay Mark.
(13:39):
I was like saluting. I wasnot taking a knee. I was
all ready to keep this going.But well, at the New York Airport,
I'm not LaGuardia. Yeah, we'lltalk about what was going on in
New York that that took you tothe Big Apple today. Yeah, the
Big Apple. I had a TVgig this morning in honor of next week's
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National Small Business Week, And soI did about twenty five interviews across the
country, just boom, boom,boom, one after the other, starting
at like seven am and finishing upat noon and on my way back home
now, so in and out.So you're tired of talking, is what
you're saying, and you're you feelbad? Little would I miss? Would
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I voluntarily miss Garyan Shannon Show interview? No, that's not on my watch
The Court Show? And just anothermoment. I saw this meme going around
yesterday and it picked up speed andthen it was quickly annoying. It was
the look between the I and theP on your keyboard? Oh yeah,
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whatever as an answer to a question, whether it's a hyperbolic question or not,
but a hypothetical whatever, what's goingon here? What's happening? Explain
the meme to us. Sure,So this is by far the most annoying
meme that we've seen on x formerlyTwitter and other platforms as well. But
yeah, so this is referred toas the look between the letters on your
(15:11):
keyboard meme That started, funny enoughthree years ago on four chan when there
was a character who plays an animecharacter on kon, which is a show.
Her name is is We and it'swhy Ui. She put this.
She tweeted this out three years ago, Look between the letters T and O
on the keyboard and it spells hername. So that was kind of like
(15:35):
at least relevant to what she wastrying to just be cute that her name
in order on a quarty keyboard waswhy you I. But somehow three years
later, starting since about April Fool'sDay, we've seen thousands of annoying.
People on X say look behind lookbetween these two letters, and in most
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cases it is doesn't make any senseat all. There's been a cute sort
of take a couple of takes onit from Sony that said, you know
who's going to watch Spider Man tootonight? Look between why and I on
your keyboard, which is the letteryou. We had Manchester City do something
the soccer team, and we hadthe Guinness World Records last week, wrote
(16:19):
applicant, I want to break therecord for the longest time without sleep,
And then they said, look betweenT and you on your keyboard, which
is the letter why, Like whywould you want to break the record for
the longest time without sleep? Soin most cases it is not logical and
it's just really annoying. This iscollectively referred to as engagement bait, so
(16:42):
because of the way x's algorithm works, it reads it as an interaction even
though there aren't any responses usually postedor it doesn't count, but still can
boost your engagement behind the scenes sothat others can find and follow you.
So there's a reason why people aredoing this other than is jumping on the
stupid bandwagon. But yeah, ifyou see this. Look between the letters
(17:03):
on your keyboard. Meme pop upon your Exeed, just keep scrolling.
It's so dumb. You know it'sNFL. Did one look between H and
L on your keyboard and it's JKjust kidding. So yeah, take the
NFL NFL Memes account and just keepscrolling because this is going to be one
meme that's going to die out veryfast. The draft memes are incredible.
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I mean, that's where I've lostmy day mark. Well, if this
is like, I can't think.I can think of a million things I'd
rather be doing than this. Butwe have to acknowledge it because it has
taken the social media by storm.But by this chat next week, on
next week's Tech Talk Thursday, itwill hopefully be long forgotten. I hope.
(17:48):
So. I mean it's been around, like you said, it's been
around for a few years now.It's weird how the embers get stoked and
there's more oxygen that gets in thereand we create a fire once again.
So thank you, Thank you.Travel to know how I really feel.
Thank you, thank you. Ifyou really want to know how I feel
about this meme, look between theletters W and K on your know your
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day, Mark Saltzman, Take careof Yourself, Mark Saltsman. Follow him
on Twitter x M a ARC UnderscoreSaltsman. He's got some great tip tech
tips on there, including his recommendationfor a good power bank like a backup
battery for your for your phone ifyour battery starts to go or you're traveling
(18:32):
a long distances. Got a coupleof different recommendations on there again, Mark
with a c Underscore Saltsman. KamalaHarris has a Secret Service detail and one
of her team members, one ofthe agents, exhibited distressing behavior at Joint
Base Andrews and was hospitalized. Shewasn't at the air base at the time,
(18:56):
not like it's relevant or anyone cares, but the US Secret Services.
At about nine am, the agentbegan displaying behavior their colleagues found distressing.
You know that happens every day herethat we don't phone it in, that
we find people with distressing behavior.Yeah. There are also very few people
(19:22):
who are trained weapons and carry weaponslike a Secret Service agent might. This
person had to be disarmed apparently wow. CBS News reports that the agent was
speaking incoherently, sprouting gibberish, andengaged with a physical fight with another officer.
I'm going to go out a limbhere and say that the agent was
(19:45):
drunk. AI is kind of afancy thing. It's first swells, two
letters. Now, I don't likespeaking of gibberish the first of all.
It's two letters. I don't firstof all, the gibberish and the drunk
thing. I don't think maybe anextra an extra tab of something, maybe
(20:07):
too many ambient the night before,that'd be bad. Some people pop those
things like skittles. The US SecretService, they said, is still in
a temporary holding pattern until further informationbecomes available. After the agent receives additional
medical attention and further evaluation, theywill figure out whether or not that agent
(20:29):
can return back to work. Theysaid that this is being treated as a
medical incident, not a disciplinary matter, given the nature the mental health challenges
that were clearly exhibited by the agent. So we were also talking all morning
about what's what happened yesterday at USCand other campuses around the country and strikes
or protests that we have taken partin. Thank Arian Shed, I was
(20:51):
going to share with you my favoriteprotest story when I was a young pup.
Actually junior high school, there wasa teacher strike going on, and
we all felt so passionately about it, obviously as students, so we did
it. We staged a walk outand it was really serious, and we
all walked out in the middle ofthe quad and the chant for that day
was taste great less pilling, Tastegreat less pilling, remember those good old
(21:12):
days. But that's how we demonstratedthat that was big and the teachers settled
their issue a week later. Theonly protest I ever remember taking part in
was we were told in elementary schoolwe could not play on the grass in
big blacktop. Obviously, but therewas a huge grass field and we were
told we couldn't play on the grass. We weren't told why, so we
(21:34):
all made little signs that said letus on the grass, or keep on
the grass, or whatever it was. And it turned out that somebody the
night before had been had used thegrass as their drinking spot. So there's
a bunch of broken beer bottles outon the grass. But they didn't tell
us that. We had to findout later after the protest. Who organized
(21:56):
this protest I have known, Soit was just one day, you can't
be on the grass Yeah, andyou protested over that. Yeah, you
wanted the grass that badly. Wethought that's what you're supposed to do,
to write the injustices of the world. How that was in Aga four urth
grade. Probably Wow. Let uson the grass, Let us on the
Keep on the grass, Google,Google, keep on the Grass. You've
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