May 14, 2024 • 28 mins
Gary and Shannon are out and Neil and Craig Saavedra fill in! Neil and Craig talk about the NYC to Dublin portal, Trump’s hush money trial and much more.
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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty, the
Gary and Shannon Show on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. Yes, I sound
like crap. I feel like crap, But boy am I happy to be
with you. Can you hear mesmising and you'll look handsome as say I'm
smising from my eyes. I wasbitching and complaining yesterday about how everything has
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done in about face in the LAUnified. And if your child, of
which I have a seven year old, is sneezed or thought of sneezing,
they didn't want them coming to school. Now they want them coming to school
no matter what because they're tired oflosing money. So my kid comes home
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with crap every day because people arecoming to school when they're sick. He
said strep throat three times since thebeginning of the year. And so I've
got the crud. But you knowwhat, there's just too much to talk
about. The show must go on. I'm sorry you're feeling bad, but
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I've got a question for you,Neil. Would you say they need the
money? So you're telling me ifa kid stays home from school because they're
sick, the district doesn't get money. That's my that's my cynicism, and
I'm sticking with it. Oh okay, not necessarily the fact, but as
my right. I don't need facts. I got anger on my side.
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I will say this. Yesterday Idid get a talk back where someone said
I'm worried about Neil. There wasa couple of them. Actually, one
was saying, I'm worried about Neil. He works so much and God bless
you. He was from a gentlemanand I thought that was very, very
nice. You do you're on twentyfour to seven. No, everybody works
a lot in this business period.You know, Robin's getting phone calls at
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three and four in the morning becauseof breaking news, people being stabbed and
everything we all do. But thankyou. The second was I'm concerned about
you. You're slurring and you're gettingyour name wrong. You kept calling yourself
Craig. So let me get thisstraight. My brother is Craig. He
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is doing the show with me.I have five brothers and one sister.
Craig is a two times Tony Awardwinning This is all legal stuff. I
have to say, Broadway producer,and he's my pal, and I thought
it'd be fun to hang out withhim. So he hung out with us
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yesterday. So I am not justjust for the record. My lawyer does
not ask you to say that that'smy yeah. My manager makes you say
that yeah, and then he says, ignore, Craig, this is what
he wants you to do. You'relike that person in the horror movie that's
like, all right, babe,listen, I'm going in there, and
I'm locking the door. No better, no matter what I say, how
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loud I screamed, you do notopen that door. And then two seconds
later it's like, oh my god, Babe, open the door. Oh
my god, Ben, that's me. That's me. So Craig is with
me. I am not delusional andI'm not calling myself. Craig reminds me
the old Tim and' neil show days, when people would write emails about how
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upset they were by Tim O'Neil.Oh, that's funny. So let's clean
our ears out. People. There'sstuff to get to and we're gonna start
with out of the from the thisis why we can't have nice things file.
We talked about this a little bityesterday. If you remember, there's
a portal touted the bridge to aunited planet. B B. I don't
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know the the Irish one, butit's between us in New York to Dublin,
Ireland. It's this kind of artinstallation kumbaiah hands across the world.
Look at the technology we have.It is like an eight foot in circumference
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now diameter at carry the one threepoint one four a giant circle with this
giant circle and inside is a screenand Dublin can see us. We can
see Dublin. Okay there, nowyou're up to speed on what the heck
is going. We're gonna give youthe who will, where, when?
Why? But it was it wasIt was meant as a bridge between different
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cultures and cities so that people cansee not here, but see each other
from different parts of the world,and you can wave and share another stapiness
you you, you silly fool,right, that's not what it is.
You know what it is. It'sa porn portal, that's what it is.
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Portal. So break this down.We were talking about how we can't
have nice things yesterday because the firstthing everybody did was, oh, these
are our cultural dances, lucky charms, and then and then we're like uh
boom, boom boom boom. Iknow the guy that owns this place.
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What I said, I know theguy that owned never mind, we'll talk
about it. Boom boom. Sowe're sharing music culture across and then the
middle fingers come out and everybody's flippingeach other off. Right. Well,
I hate to say her name,but I know that's why she did it.
Of course it is Ava louise Anonly Fans model. She's got four
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hundred thousand people on Instagram following her. Not my type. You know,
there's something about a woman trying tolook sexy with bruised legs. That's I
saw about her. I didn't lookthat low because she's not unattractive. No,
but look, her face is painted. I know, hey, listen,
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be as far from me to callanybody unattractive or body shaped. For
Pete's sake, I got bruises.I'm just saying. And actually you've got
larger breasts. I know, right, I love my cupcakes. So Ava
louise An only Fans model. Sheflashed the New York to Dublin portal.
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Now keep in mind, this isNew York to Dublin. It's in the
Flat Iron district of New York Craigcan tell us more about what goes on
in the flat Iron district. Theyused to be a bi coastal bar there
in the flat Iron Bar that justclosed recently. The building's actually closed,
but it's in Midtown East and itis a great hip young part of the
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town. Why they put it here, I don't know. I would have
done. Hey, Times Square.Can you say hip and young again,
because I've never heard Now this isradio those of that you have never seen
me. I am the epitome ofhip and young, as hip and young
as a sixty year old and docksiderscan oh, I will tell you.
I will tell you. The kidslove to use the word epitome. So
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I was just curious because, uh, you've got a place out in that
area. It's a great person.I couldn't remember if you've ever taken me
there? We yeah, okay,So she flashed, She flashed herself just
I think on Sunday. The placehas only been this this portal's only been
opened since Wednesday, and we've alreadyshowed you know who we are. So
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now it's shut down temporarily. Twodifferent stories coming out. Some say it's
because of the Lewde horrible behavior ofUS Americans. Although people were showing swastika
is that I don't know, Igot it. I gotta tell you.
It's the Dubliner that have been thatstarted it and done more of it.
But what's amazing is that they lookat the nationalists. The guy that started
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this, the Benedictus Gillis I thinkis his name. He's a Lithuanian artist
and he's the founder of the Portholeand his dream was to provide a window
between distant locations and we've abused it. But you know it's gotten a bad
rap too. There have been anumber of proposals, wedding proposals done over
this, and connections between people thathave family back in Dublin from New York
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that got to see each other.So there's been some positive It's actually a
minority of people. But you givea camera to strangers and they will drop
trout moon the other side of theplanet, show them the lucky charms and
well, I will tell you this. I'm a proud spokesman for American Vision.
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Windows love them. But you knowwhat, I also have neighbors,
so I have shades. You wantto make a window for to see across
the world. Great, put somelevelers on it. Are the sponsor level
lawyers. Let's get them money.Yeah, all right, more to come
of this. This is gonna belike watching a car race. You never
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know what's gonna happen. So don'tgo anywhere Trump. You know, I
really I'm not. I'm under theweather. The last thing I feel like
is talking about Trump. But let'sgive it just a brief little nod.
You got Michael Cohen on the stand, close confidant of Donald J. Trump
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as well former. Yeah, itwas referred to as the Fixer, which
is the coolest name you can have. It just gives you you know,
doesn't want to be like the fixers. But you know what makes it less
cool is that he insisted people hewas handing out cards, saying, call
me the figure. He broke it, and then he called himself the fixer.
I'll fix it. He busted thecard rule. You can't give yourself
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your own nickname, man, Youcan't. You know, It's just you
can't do that. So he likesfixer up. But I think of like
Wolf, mister Wolf, like fromuh the pulp fiction. Sure you know
it comes you call him at sixin the morning, at six am or
whatever, he's in a tuxedo ata cocktail party and everybody and he takes
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the phone. Yes, and hegoes, you know, we need help,
blah blah blah blah blah. Hegoes, uh, how far away
are you? He's all at leastthirty five minutes or whatever, and he
goes, I'll be there in ten. That's fine, you know, and
he pulls up in this you know, beautiful out. You know the thing
about the title the fixer, it'sone thing if you call yourself the fixer
and you want other people to referto you the fixer. My question is,
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did Trump refer to Cohen as hisfixer? Because that's just douchey.
No, you want you if yougot a fixer, you want to throw
that around, but that's gross.I mean, it's like my guy,
I got a guy, I gota guy, got a guy I got,
I got a guy I got.I'm gonna write myself an Apple note.
You know what's hold on a second, dear Neil, get a guy,
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return, get a fixer. Holdon I want to I want to
make sure we get through a littlebit of this first. Hold on So
this criminal trial of an American president, the first criminal trial of an American
president, admitting to a one hundredand thirty thousand dollars payment a Stormy Daniels,
which is not illegal, to ensureher silence, which is not illegal.
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About a sexual encounter, which isnot illegal anymore it used to be
if you're married. So the paymentled to these charges against Trump for falsefying
business records, hiding the reimbursement toCohen. He wasn't a president at the
time, he was running and didn'twant these things to come out. I
guess who would, especially if you'remarried. Trump denies the charges any sexual
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encounter with Daniels. I'll give youthe breakdown of the testimony. In a
moment, did you say, wasthere something super No? I was just
saying the whole thing just reeks ascum and villainy. I mean, it's
it's it's like a circus show rightnow. Have you seen who all the
allies of Trumps that are coming tobe there in the courtroom with him?
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Oh? Yeah, the lady inthe red dress, who was that?
She was Iowa. So she walksup in her little red dress and I
saw videos of this. These arethese people that are sycophantic trump klingons.
I can't remember what they call thoselittle fish that hang on sharks. They
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just sucked the little barnacles or whateveroff the shark. Have you ever seen
those? Yeah, I think they'recalled suckers, shark suckers. I don't
know. I bet you it's sharksuckers. But in Latin, whatever they
are, they that's what I see. And you see all these people going,
listen, you're not changing any mindshere. People either love the guy
or they hate the guy, andheaven forbid you try and stand in the
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middle somewhere and use in reason,because then you're killing babies. She's the
Iowa Attorney General, Brenda Bird.That's her, interesting looking, kind of
a boxy lady. If I isthat, I don't know why I'm saying.
I'm not. You know, Iwish I could blame it on cold
medicine, but I can tell youwhen you have a kidney transplant, I
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can't take regular cold medicine. Theonly thing I can take over the counter,
for the most part, for anythingis tylan all. So this is
just me a little You're doing great, fantastic, such a good big brother.
So some of the things that cameout. Melania Trump, apparently by
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way of Cohen's testimony, was theone that suggested to describe that access Hollywood
stuff about grabbing women's genibles. Shewas the one, per Cohen's testimony that
that said, Hey, just say, it's locker room talk. It's just
boy talk, aiding and a bedding. You know what I don't understand with
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his trials, there's so many thingsthat don't make sense, like attorney client
privilege, which we talked about yesterday, but legal activity. That's why you're
never supposed to tell your attorney yeah, I'm guilty. Here's the other thing
I don't understand. Why is itthat he was allowed to surreptitiously record a
phone conversation with Trump and then thatwas admissible into court. That's supposed to
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be illegal. Now, it dependswhere it is, as long as one
person knows they're being recorded, andit's in an area one person knows being
recorded. Yeah, and if you'reit depends legally. It's different in each
state has very strict I looked intothe New York laws and they have very
similar laws to to to California.But it's soon, you know, for
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whatever reason. So as long asCohen knew he was recording, that was
depending on the laws. Yes,as long as one person knows. Going
through some of the talkbacks, Godbless you guys, you're the smartest people
on the planet. KFI listeners,I just love it. We're talking about
if the kids go to school orif they don't go to school, the
school doesn't get paid. Well,listen to this, No, Neil,
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it is true fact. I've taughtin districts. ADA is average daily attendants
and they get money for students beingin attendance. You do not get the
money if the kids are absent.Feel better, take care, Thank you,
God bless you. So that's yeah, so ADA average daily attendance.
And then guess what throw out?You know, wildlife questions get wildlife answers.
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The fish that klingons the size ofshark are called remora fishes. You're
welcome. Thank you. See Ithought they were klingons. No, Ramora
sounds like somebody from Guardians of theGalaxy, but you know I should know
that. Anyways, Thank you sovery much. You can always do talkbacks
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very simply by going to the iHeartRadioapp seeing that red mic button. Poke,
poke, poke, you hit thatthing, and you've got thirty seconds
to tell us whatever is on yourmind. You could be nice, you
could be mean. I don't givea hoot. Just be yourself. Just
be honest, all right? Speakingabout it is that they can punch.
If people miss the show live,they can always tune into the Garyan Shannon
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podcast, except yesterday's will be usright, which is why I'm pitching it.
Listen to all the wonderful things wesaid and did yesterday. You missed
a lot of fun stuff. Idon't even remember either, do it.
So back to Cohen's testimony, theMichael Cohen, the alleged fixer for Donald
J. Trump, going back towhat is referred to as the hush money
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trial. Even though it doesn't haveto do with hush money, it has
to do with the payments and howit was. It's a clerical situation.
Is kind of can you imagine teasingit at the top. They are the
clerical document's case. What a sleeper? But Cohen emphasized that Trump's and I
find this interesting, even though it'snot surprising that Trump's concern was primarily about
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the impact on his campaign campaign,not his family, Like you'd think that
a guy or someone cheating would beconcerned about their family. Well, that's
what he was saying. That's whatthat's what his side was saying that his
big I think Hope Hicks on thestand said his primary concern was protecting his
family, Baron and Malaney in particular. Well, you can keep hoping Hicks,
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because that's not the truth. Well, according to Cohen, so let's
keep that in promon, Oh,Craig, he was the fixer as an
attorney. Well was. Cohen provideddetailed testimony as well, kind of stitching
together all the motives and the methodsbehind whatever it was dealing with the payment.
This includes that Trump is micromanager somethingthat is completely believable, and that
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he was kind of panicking that theyou know, after the tape was released,
and we heard a lot of thatstuff too, cussing and freaking out
and yelling and what have you.He accused Trump of directly instructing him to
pack Daniels in late October of twentysixteen. Other Republicans are using the trial
to show loyalty, as Craig talkedabout earlier people showing up or eat saying
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things that Trump can't say because ofthe gag order. So they're you know,
going on. I think it's funnyhow some Republicans are using this as
a platform to pitch themselves as aVP potential VP. I mean, JD.
Vance was there yesterday. Today,vyvek Ramaswami is apparently going to be
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Gosh, she needs to He needsto just stop. That's it. He
just needs to stop, stop talking, stop saying things of an any kind
you want to put under a gagorder yourself. Yeah, all right,
he just I mean, he givesI think a general gag Gordon collegiate debag
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vibes to me, just like,you know, almost a little bit worse
than somebody in a fraternity. Itjust so prosecutors had allowed witnesses to disparage
Cohen, but his demeanor on thestand was pretty calm and composed, which
is not his style. He's kindof a blabbermouth and once you get him
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started, he he's what do theycall it when you tell on yourself.
He's kind of someone who tells onhimself, just keeps going and until he
ends up screwing himself. And hejust testified that he applied for reduction in
his sentence, and he asked theManhattan Attorney's Office for help on that front.
Wow, why not, Well,yeah, I would. He's not
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going to get but everybody else inthe world that ever did anything under the
flag of Trump, we'll get off. If he becomes president. You get
out, and he's going to beOprah and you get a pardon, and
you get a pardon, and youget a pardon. Cohen's direct examination will
continue today with the defense likely attendingattempting to challenge his credulity. Is credibility,
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which is probably not terribly difficult toknock down that wall. I actually
think that's where the sparks are gonnafly, is once you get the defense
at a shot at this guy.The way it works on the television set,
yep, that's when it gets goodgood morning ladies and gentlemen of the
joy and my weather opponents and they'relike, why do you have that accent?
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It's just better to do in thecourt room. When we're talking about
court things, all defense attorneys arefog court league order. All right.
This is something that comes back andforth the story in regards to how we're
teaching kids people get nervous about digitaltechnology and how it usurps different skills that
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we had in the past. Oneof those is long hand writing and writing
as a whole. This particular storycomes out of research. You've got neuroscientists,
you've got educators, you've got psychologistscoming together and studying basically what highlights
the cognitive benefits in a young person. You know, does handwriting show that
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it's better than typing for both childrenand adults. So you've got the University
of California, merced A, NorwegianUniversity of Science and Technology, Kentucky,
Indiana, South Carolina, a bunchof these universities getting together and they've been
doing this ongoing research and having discussionsabout the impact of handwriting versus typing,
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particularly with a focus in educational setting. So, Craig, you and I
grew up writing long hand Mine ishorrible. I do a combination like I
have serial killer writing. It isa part of it is printing, and
part of it is cursive. It'sit's a bit like spanglish. You haven't
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decided is it cursive, is itprinting. It is a little weird though,
but I I still like writing,and I and I'm a and you
are too. You are a prayingpoke or whatever you are. You just
pray and poke. That's a wayI think that comes out of the country
church. How to not have babiesand peck on their key Yeah, that's
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the one. Yeah. So you'resitting there and you're very fast, but
you do it with your index fingers. But I do use two hands.
My left hand does the shift key. Is that all it does, That's
all it does. And the righthand just dances across the keyboard and all
the left hand does is shifts.But what's interesting is that I learned to
tie because Dad would have me typeout his stories that he would create.
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So that's how I learned to type, not properly. But what's fascinating because
we both have children. You've gota seven year old son, I've got
a seven year old granddaughter, andso Emory is at my granddaughter's at the
point where she's learning cursive now inschool, and her teacher, like so
many other people and the people inthis story that you're referring to, say
that the laborious process of tracing outletter by letter helps you retain more.
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I agree. Things I tell hostsall the time when I was in management
at the station, I would tellthem when they said, you know,
getting things and putting their thoughts together, I said, handwrite notes. If
you can handwrite them, you're goingto consume the information differently. I know
it's a pain in the essen,it's hard to do, but you do.
I know with my son Max thatthey have these books. They're pretty
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cool. They have indentations on themand then so you're kind of tracing in
the indentations that I don't know,like on an amusement ride that would keep
you on track. So it keepsyour hand on track, and he used
that for a while. My wifehas been very good with him. But
the whole thing about this study we'retalking about is that handwriting just simply engages
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different brain systems more deeply than typing, and you get that better recognition that
Craig talked about, that better understandingrecall of letters and words. And they're
saying that it fosters conceptual understanding ofthe material you're working on, whatever it
is. And this is in adultsas well. Oh yeah, there's an
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intimacy about it as well. There'sa very famous composer songwriter, Stephen Sondheim,
who passed away recently. He wroteall of his musicals, including West
Side Story and Sweeney Todd Longhand ona yellow pad. A lot of TV
writers still write long hand because there'san intimacy with that pen and how you
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wrap the pen informed the words.It forces you to think harder about what
you were saying and to slow down. Yeah, just slow down, you've
got You can only write so fastwhen you're writing long hand. You know
that. That reminds me of astory, And for the life of me,
I can't remember who it was.A well known author had written a
book on a typewriter and lost itin a fire or something and it was
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finished. God, I think wouldimagine. Yeah, so the entire book
was finished and lost it and itcould not be recovered because I don't know
storage just trying to think who itwas, But I don't think he wrote
after that. I think you're talkingabout the plot of The Wonder Boys.
What the hell is that? It'sa movie with Michael Michael, listen,
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what you guys do in the privacyevent? No, No, it's a
it's a movie by Michael Douglass,written by Michael Chambond, based on a
very famous novel of his. Andthat's the plot. Okay, well it
happened in real life. You know, art art sometimes mimics real life Craig.
But the point is it's really interestingbecause I don't know. I still
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write a lot Longhand, and Ifind that the motor skills that are required
to actually manipulate a pen or pencilon the paper to bring your thoughts right
your thoughts is very different than usingyour thumbs to tap out a grocery list
on your iPhone. I tend toremember more if I write it long hand
than if I do, and Ithink it has something to do. And
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this is what that study proves isthat the more it's like when I remember
a name I go into a roomand meet new people, the more complicated
process I associate with that person's name. Like if I were to meet you,
I'd say, oh, you wereone in July. Your name is
Neil, Neil Armstrong landed on themoon in July sixty nine when you were
born Neil Armstrong and buzz Alder andoh, buzz Edwin is your middle name.
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That association way easier just to remembera name, yeah, you would
think, rather than the plot ofa book. Actually you don't. The
more complicated the process is the brainremembers it more. And I think that's
exactly what this study is showing,is that when kids learn to form letters,
it helps them form obviously remember words, scent, its structure, and
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storytelling. So it's it's I findit fascinating. Why do I feel like
this is a different radio station rightnow? And now you know the rest
of the language. All right,we'll be back more with Craig. I
think we should Craig hypen last name, and we're gonna be talking about underwater
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basket weaving in the nether region ofLithuania when we return. Welcome back,
Welcome back, all right, We'regonna go shoot some adrenaline and then come
back. So go nowhere. Itis Neil Svader and Craig Survader in for
Garry and Shannon today. This isKFI Los Angeles. You've been listening to
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the Gary and Shannon Show. Youcan always hear us live on KFI AM
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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty, the
Gary and Shannon Show on demand onthe iHeartRadio app. Yes, I sound
like crap. I feel like crap, But boy am I happy to be
with you. Can you hear mesmising and you'll look handsome as say I'm
smising from my eyes. I wasbitching and complaining yesterday about how everything has
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done in about face in the LAUnified. And if your child, of
which I have a seven year old, is sneezed or thought of sneezing,
they didn't want them coming to school. Now they want them coming to school
no matter what because they're tired oflosing money. So my kid comes home
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with crap every day because people arecoming to school when they're sick. He
said strep throat three times since thebeginning of the year. And so I've
got the crud. But you knowwhat, there's just too much to talk
about. The show must go on. I'm sorry you're feeling bad, but
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I've got a question for you,Neil. Would you say they need the
money? So you're telling me ifa kid stays home from school because they're
sick, the district doesn't get money. That's my that's my cynicism, and
I'm sticking with it. Oh okay, not necessarily the fact, but as
my right. I don't need facts. I got anger on my side.
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I will say this. Yesterday Idid get a talk back where someone said
I'm worried about Neil. There wasa couple of them. Actually, one
was saying, I'm worried about Neil. He works so much and God bless
you. He was from a gentlemanand I thought that was very, very
nice. You do you're on twentyfour to seven. No, everybody works
a lot in this business period.You know, Robin's getting phone calls at
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three and four in the morning becauseof breaking news, people being stabbed and
everything we all do. But thankyou. The second was I'm concerned about
you. You're slurring and you're gettingyour name wrong. You kept calling yourself
Craig. So let me get thisstraight. My brother is Craig. He
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is doing the show with me.I have five brothers and one sister.
Craig is a two times Tony Awardwinning This is all legal stuff. I
have to say, Broadway producer,and he's my pal, and I thought
it'd be fun to hang out withhim. So he hung out with us
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yesterday. So I am not justjust for the record. My lawyer does
not ask you to say that that'smy yeah. My manager makes you say
that yeah, and then he says, ignore, Craig, this is what
he wants you to do. You'relike that person in the horror movie that's
like, all right, babe,listen, I'm going in there, and
I'm locking the door. No better, no matter what I say, how
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loud I screamed, you do notopen that door. And then two seconds
later it's like, oh my god, Babe, open the door. Oh
my god, Ben, that's me. That's me. So Craig is with
me. I am not delusional andI'm not calling myself. Craig reminds me
the old Tim and' neil show days, when people would write emails about how
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upset they were by Tim O'Neil.Oh, that's funny. So let's clean
our ears out. People. There'sstuff to get to and we're gonna start
with out of the from the thisis why we can't have nice things file.
We talked about this a little bityesterday. If you remember, there's
a portal touted the bridge to aunited planet. B B. I don't
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know the the Irish one, butit's between us in New York to Dublin,
Ireland. It's this kind of artinstallation kumbaiah hands across the world.
Look at the technology we have.It is like an eight foot in circumference
(04:23):
now diameter at carry the one threepoint one four a giant circle with this
giant circle and inside is a screenand Dublin can see us. We can
see Dublin. Okay there, nowyou're up to speed on what the heck
is going. We're gonna give youthe who will, where, when?
Why? But it was it wasIt was meant as a bridge between different
(04:45):
cultures and cities so that people cansee not here, but see each other
from different parts of the world,and you can wave and share another stapiness
you you, you silly fool,right, that's not what it is.
You know what it is. It'sa porn portal, that's what it is.
(05:08):
Portal. So break this down.We were talking about how we can't
have nice things yesterday because the firstthing everybody did was, oh, these
are our cultural dances, lucky charms, and then and then we're like uh
boom, boom boom boom. Iknow the guy that owns this place.
(05:30):
What I said, I know theguy that owned never mind, we'll talk
about it. Boom boom. Sowe're sharing music culture across and then the
middle fingers come out and everybody's flippingeach other off. Right. Well,
I hate to say her name,but I know that's why she did it.
Of course it is Ava louise Anonly Fans model. She's got four
(05:50):
hundred thousand people on Instagram following her. Not my type. You know,
there's something about a woman trying tolook sexy with bruised legs. That's I
saw about her. I didn't lookthat low because she's not unattractive. No,
but look, her face is painted. I know, hey, listen,
(06:10):
be as far from me to callanybody unattractive or body shaped. For
Pete's sake, I got bruises.I'm just saying. And actually you've got
larger breasts. I know, right, I love my cupcakes. So Ava
louise An only Fans model. Sheflashed the New York to Dublin portal.
(06:31):
Now keep in mind, this isNew York to Dublin. It's in the
Flat Iron district of New York Craigcan tell us more about what goes on
in the flat Iron district. Theyused to be a bi coastal bar there
in the flat Iron Bar that justclosed recently. The building's actually closed,
but it's in Midtown East and itis a great hip young part of the
(06:56):
town. Why they put it here, I don't know. I would have
done. Hey, Times Square.Can you say hip and young again,
because I've never heard Now this isradio those of that you have never seen
me. I am the epitome ofhip and young, as hip and young
as a sixty year old and docksiderscan oh, I will tell you.
I will tell you. The kidslove to use the word epitome. So
(07:20):
I was just curious because, uh, you've got a place out in that
area. It's a great person.I couldn't remember if you've ever taken me
there? We yeah, okay,So she flashed, She flashed herself just
I think on Sunday. The placehas only been this this portal's only been
opened since Wednesday, and we've alreadyshowed you know who we are. So
(07:44):
now it's shut down temporarily. Twodifferent stories coming out. Some say it's
because of the Lewde horrible behavior ofUS Americans. Although people were showing swastika
is that I don't know, Igot it. I gotta tell you.
It's the Dubliner that have been thatstarted it and done more of it.
But what's amazing is that they lookat the nationalists. The guy that started
(08:05):
this, the Benedictus Gillis I thinkis his name. He's a Lithuanian artist
and he's the founder of the Portholeand his dream was to provide a window
between distant locations and we've abused it. But you know it's gotten a bad
rap too. There have been anumber of proposals, wedding proposals done over
this, and connections between people thathave family back in Dublin from New York
(08:31):
that got to see each other.So there's been some positive It's actually a
minority of people. But you givea camera to strangers and they will drop
trout moon the other side of theplanet, show them the lucky charms and
well, I will tell you this. I'm a proud spokesman for American Vision.
(08:52):
Windows love them. But you knowwhat, I also have neighbors,
so I have shades. You wantto make a window for to see across
the world. Great, put somelevelers on it. Are the sponsor level
lawyers. Let's get them money.Yeah, all right, more to come
of this. This is gonna belike watching a car race. You never
(09:16):
know what's gonna happen. So don'tgo anywhere Trump. You know, I
really I'm not. I'm under theweather. The last thing I feel like
is talking about Trump. But let'sgive it just a brief little nod.
You got Michael Cohen on the stand, close confidant of Donald J. Trump
(09:37):
as well former. Yeah, itwas referred to as the Fixer, which
is the coolest name you can have. It just gives you you know,
doesn't want to be like the fixers. But you know what makes it less
cool is that he insisted people hewas handing out cards, saying, call
me the figure. He broke it, and then he called himself the fixer.
I'll fix it. He busted thecard rule. You can't give yourself
(10:01):
your own nickname, man, Youcan't. You know, It's just you
can't do that. So he likesfixer up. But I think of like
Wolf, mister Wolf, like fromuh the pulp fiction. Sure you know
it comes you call him at sixin the morning, at six am or
whatever, he's in a tuxedo ata cocktail party and everybody and he takes
(10:24):
the phone. Yes, and hegoes, you know, we need help,
blah blah blah blah blah. Hegoes, uh, how far away
are you? He's all at leastthirty five minutes or whatever, and he
goes, I'll be there in ten. That's fine, you know, and
he pulls up in this you know, beautiful out. You know the thing
about the title the fixer, it'sone thing if you call yourself the fixer
and you want other people to referto you the fixer. My question is,
(10:46):
did Trump refer to Cohen as hisfixer? Because that's just douchey.
No, you want you if yougot a fixer, you want to throw
that around, but that's gross.I mean, it's like my guy,
I got a guy, I gota guy, got a guy I got,
I got a guy I got.I'm gonna write myself an Apple note.
You know what's hold on a second, dear Neil, get a guy,
(11:11):
return, get a fixer. Holdon I want to I want to
make sure we get through a littlebit of this first. Hold on So
this criminal trial of an American president, the first criminal trial of an American
president, admitting to a one hundredand thirty thousand dollars payment a Stormy Daniels,
which is not illegal, to ensureher silence, which is not illegal.
(11:35):
About a sexual encounter, which isnot illegal anymore it used to be
if you're married. So the paymentled to these charges against Trump for falsefying
business records, hiding the reimbursement toCohen. He wasn't a president at the
time, he was running and didn'twant these things to come out. I
guess who would, especially if you'remarried. Trump denies the charges any sexual
(11:56):
encounter with Daniels. I'll give youthe breakdown of the testimony. In a
moment, did you say, wasthere something super No? I was just
saying the whole thing just reeks ascum and villainy. I mean, it's
it's it's like a circus show rightnow. Have you seen who all the
allies of Trumps that are coming tobe there in the courtroom with him?
(12:16):
Oh? Yeah, the lady inthe red dress, who was that?
She was Iowa. So she walksup in her little red dress and I
saw videos of this. These arethese people that are sycophantic trump klingons.
I can't remember what they call thoselittle fish that hang on sharks. They
(12:37):
just sucked the little barnacles or whateveroff the shark. Have you ever seen
those? Yeah, I think they'recalled suckers, shark suckers. I don't
know. I bet you it's sharksuckers. But in Latin, whatever they
are, they that's what I see. And you see all these people going,
listen, you're not changing any mindshere. People either love the guy
or they hate the guy, andheaven forbid you try and stand in the
(13:01):
middle somewhere and use in reason,because then you're killing babies. She's the
Iowa Attorney General, Brenda Bird.That's her, interesting looking, kind of
a boxy lady. If I isthat, I don't know why I'm saying.
I'm not. You know, Iwish I could blame it on cold
medicine, but I can tell youwhen you have a kidney transplant, I
(13:22):
can't take regular cold medicine. Theonly thing I can take over the counter,
for the most part, for anythingis tylan all. So this is
just me a little You're doing great, fantastic, such a good big brother.
So some of the things that cameout. Melania Trump, apparently by
(13:43):
way of Cohen's testimony, was theone that suggested to describe that access Hollywood
stuff about grabbing women's genibles. Shewas the one, per Cohen's testimony that
that said, Hey, just say, it's locker room talk. It's just
boy talk, aiding and a bedding. You know what I don't understand with
(14:07):
his trials, there's so many thingsthat don't make sense, like attorney client
privilege, which we talked about yesterday, but legal activity. That's why you're
never supposed to tell your attorney yeah, I'm guilty. Here's the other thing
I don't understand. Why is itthat he was allowed to surreptitiously record a
phone conversation with Trump and then thatwas admissible into court. That's supposed to
(14:31):
be illegal. Now, it dependswhere it is, as long as one
person knows they're being recorded, andit's in an area one person knows being
recorded. Yeah, and if you'reit depends legally. It's different in each
state has very strict I looked intothe New York laws and they have very
similar laws to to to California.But it's soon, you know, for
(14:52):
whatever reason. So as long asCohen knew he was recording, that was
depending on the laws. Yes,as long as one person knows. Going
through some of the talkbacks, Godbless you guys, you're the smartest people
on the planet. KFI listeners,I just love it. We're talking about
if the kids go to school orif they don't go to school, the
school doesn't get paid. Well,listen to this, No, Neil,
(15:13):
it is true fact. I've taughtin districts. ADA is average daily attendants
and they get money for students beingin attendance. You do not get the
money if the kids are absent.Feel better, take care, Thank you,
God bless you. So that's yeah, so ADA average daily attendance.
And then guess what throw out?You know, wildlife questions get wildlife answers.
(15:41):
The fish that klingons the size ofshark are called remora fishes. You're
welcome. Thank you. See Ithought they were klingons. No, Ramora
sounds like somebody from Guardians of theGalaxy, but you know I should know
that. Anyways, Thank you sovery much. You can always do talkbacks
(16:03):
very simply by going to the iHeartRadioapp seeing that red mic button. Poke,
poke, poke, you hit thatthing, and you've got thirty seconds
to tell us whatever is on yourmind. You could be nice, you
could be mean. I don't givea hoot. Just be yourself. Just
be honest, all right? Speakingabout it is that they can punch.
If people miss the show live,they can always tune into the Garyan Shannon
(16:26):
podcast, except yesterday's will be usright, which is why I'm pitching it.
Listen to all the wonderful things wesaid and did yesterday. You missed
a lot of fun stuff. Idon't even remember either, do it.
So back to Cohen's testimony, theMichael Cohen, the alleged fixer for Donald
J. Trump, going back towhat is referred to as the hush money
(16:51):
trial. Even though it doesn't haveto do with hush money, it has
to do with the payments and howit was. It's a clerical situation.
Is kind of can you imagine teasingit at the top. They are the
clerical document's case. What a sleeper? But Cohen emphasized that Trump's and I
find this interesting, even though it'snot surprising that Trump's concern was primarily about
(17:17):
the impact on his campaign campaign,not his family, Like you'd think that
a guy or someone cheating would beconcerned about their family. Well, that's
what he was saying. That's whatthat's what his side was saying that his
big I think Hope Hicks on thestand said his primary concern was protecting his
family, Baron and Malaney in particular. Well, you can keep hoping Hicks,
(17:40):
because that's not the truth. Well, according to Cohen, so let's
keep that in promon, Oh,Craig, he was the fixer as an
attorney. Well was. Cohen provideddetailed testimony as well, kind of stitching
together all the motives and the methodsbehind whatever it was dealing with the payment.
This includes that Trump is micromanager somethingthat is completely believable, and that
(18:03):
he was kind of panicking that theyou know, after the tape was released,
and we heard a lot of thatstuff too, cussing and freaking out
and yelling and what have you.He accused Trump of directly instructing him to
pack Daniels in late October of twentysixteen. Other Republicans are using the trial
to show loyalty, as Craig talkedabout earlier people showing up or eat saying
(18:29):
things that Trump can't say because ofthe gag order. So they're you know,
going on. I think it's funnyhow some Republicans are using this as
a platform to pitch themselves as aVP potential VP. I mean, JD.
Vance was there yesterday. Today,vyvek Ramaswami is apparently going to be
(18:49):
Gosh, she needs to He needsto just stop. That's it. He
just needs to stop, stop talking, stop saying things of an any kind
you want to put under a gagorder yourself. Yeah, all right,
he just I mean, he givesI think a general gag Gordon collegiate debag
(19:11):
vibes to me, just like,you know, almost a little bit worse
than somebody in a fraternity. Itjust so prosecutors had allowed witnesses to disparage
Cohen, but his demeanor on thestand was pretty calm and composed, which
is not his style. He's kindof a blabbermouth and once you get him
(19:33):
started, he he's what do theycall it when you tell on yourself.
He's kind of someone who tells onhimself, just keeps going and until he
ends up screwing himself. And hejust testified that he applied for reduction in
his sentence, and he asked theManhattan Attorney's Office for help on that front.
Wow, why not, Well,yeah, I would. He's not
(19:55):
going to get but everybody else inthe world that ever did anything under the
flag of Trump, we'll get off. If he becomes president. You get
out, and he's going to beOprah and you get a pardon, and
you get a pardon, and youget a pardon. Cohen's direct examination will
continue today with the defense likely attendingattempting to challenge his credulity. Is credibility,
(20:18):
which is probably not terribly difficult toknock down that wall. I actually
think that's where the sparks are gonnafly, is once you get the defense
at a shot at this guy.The way it works on the television set,
yep, that's when it gets goodgood morning ladies and gentlemen of the
joy and my weather opponents and they'relike, why do you have that accent?
(20:41):
It's just better to do in thecourt room. When we're talking about
court things, all defense attorneys arefog court league order. All right.
This is something that comes back andforth the story in regards to how we're
teaching kids people get nervous about digitaltechnology and how it usurps different skills that
(21:06):
we had in the past. Oneof those is long hand writing and writing
as a whole. This particular storycomes out of research. You've got neuroscientists,
you've got educators, you've got psychologistscoming together and studying basically what highlights
the cognitive benefits in a young person. You know, does handwriting show that
(21:32):
it's better than typing for both childrenand adults. So you've got the University
of California, merced A, NorwegianUniversity of Science and Technology, Kentucky,
Indiana, South Carolina, a bunchof these universities getting together and they've been
doing this ongoing research and having discussionsabout the impact of handwriting versus typing,
(21:57):
particularly with a focus in educational setting. So, Craig, you and I
grew up writing long hand Mine ishorrible. I do a combination like I
have serial killer writing. It isa part of it is printing, and
part of it is cursive. It'sit's a bit like spanglish. You haven't
(22:19):
decided is it cursive, is itprinting. It is a little weird though,
but I I still like writing,and I and I'm a and you
are too. You are a prayingpoke or whatever you are. You just
pray and poke. That's a wayI think that comes out of the country
church. How to not have babiesand peck on their key Yeah, that's
(22:41):
the one. Yeah. So you'resitting there and you're very fast, but
you do it with your index fingers. But I do use two hands.
My left hand does the shift key. Is that all it does, That's
all it does. And the righthand just dances across the keyboard and all
the left hand does is shifts.But what's interesting is that I learned to
tie because Dad would have me typeout his stories that he would create.
(23:03):
So that's how I learned to type, not properly. But what's fascinating because
we both have children. You've gota seven year old son, I've got
a seven year old granddaughter, andso Emory is at my granddaughter's at the
point where she's learning cursive now inschool, and her teacher, like so
many other people and the people inthis story that you're referring to, say
that the laborious process of tracing outletter by letter helps you retain more.
(23:32):
I agree. Things I tell hostsall the time when I was in management
at the station, I would tellthem when they said, you know,
getting things and putting their thoughts together, I said, handwrite notes. If
you can handwrite them, you're goingto consume the information differently. I know
it's a pain in the essen,it's hard to do, but you do.
I know with my son Max thatthey have these books. They're pretty
(23:56):
cool. They have indentations on themand then so you're kind of tracing in
the indentations that I don't know,like on an amusement ride that would keep
you on track. So it keepsyour hand on track, and he used
that for a while. My wifehas been very good with him. But
the whole thing about this study we'retalking about is that handwriting just simply engages
(24:22):
different brain systems more deeply than typing, and you get that better recognition that
Craig talked about, that better understandingrecall of letters and words. And they're
saying that it fosters conceptual understanding ofthe material you're working on, whatever it
is. And this is in adultsas well. Oh yeah, there's an
(24:45):
intimacy about it as well. There'sa very famous composer songwriter, Stephen Sondheim,
who passed away recently. He wroteall of his musicals, including West
Side Story and Sweeney Todd Longhand ona yellow pad. A lot of TV
writers still write long hand because there'san intimacy with that pen and how you
(25:07):
wrap the pen informed the words.It forces you to think harder about what
you were saying and to slow down. Yeah, just slow down, you've
got You can only write so fastwhen you're writing long hand. You know
that. That reminds me of astory, And for the life of me,
I can't remember who it was.A well known author had written a
book on a typewriter and lost itin a fire or something and it was
(25:30):
finished. God, I think wouldimagine. Yeah, so the entire book
was finished and lost it and itcould not be recovered because I don't know
storage just trying to think who itwas, But I don't think he wrote
after that. I think you're talkingabout the plot of The Wonder Boys.
What the hell is that? It'sa movie with Michael Michael, listen,
(25:52):
what you guys do in the privacyevent? No, No, it's a
it's a movie by Michael Douglass,written by Michael Chambond, based on a
very famous novel of his. Andthat's the plot. Okay, well it
happened in real life. You know, art art sometimes mimics real life Craig.
But the point is it's really interestingbecause I don't know. I still
(26:15):
write a lot Longhand, and Ifind that the motor skills that are required
to actually manipulate a pen or pencilon the paper to bring your thoughts right
your thoughts is very different than usingyour thumbs to tap out a grocery list
on your iPhone. I tend toremember more if I write it long hand
than if I do, and Ithink it has something to do. And
(26:36):
this is what that study proves isthat the more it's like when I remember
a name I go into a roomand meet new people, the more complicated
process I associate with that person's name. Like if I were to meet you,
I'd say, oh, you wereone in July. Your name is
Neil, Neil Armstrong landed on themoon in July sixty nine when you were
born Neil Armstrong and buzz Alder andoh, buzz Edwin is your middle name.
(26:59):
That association way easier just to remembera name, yeah, you would
think, rather than the plot ofa book. Actually you don't. The
more complicated the process is the brainremembers it more. And I think that's
exactly what this study is showing,is that when kids learn to form letters,
it helps them form obviously remember words, scent, its structure, and
(27:19):
storytelling. So it's it's I findit fascinating. Why do I feel like
this is a different radio station rightnow? And now you know the rest
of the language. All right,we'll be back more with Craig. I
think we should Craig hypen last name, and we're gonna be talking about underwater
(27:41):
basket weaving in the nether region ofLithuania when we return. Welcome back,
Welcome back, all right, We'regonna go shoot some adrenaline and then come
back. So go nowhere. Itis Neil Svader and Craig Survader in for
Garry and Shannon today. This isKFI Los Angeles. You've been listening to
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