GaS Hour 4 - #StrangeScience

Marla Tellez fills in for Shannon she and Gary talk about #WhatsHappening and #StrangeScience with Angelina Tusboi.

Episode Transcript

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This is Gary and Shannon and you'relistening to KFI AM six forty the Gary
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actually lost to the Rangers three totwo last night behind former Dodger Corey Seekers
three run home run, a coupleother sports scores the one that nobody cared
about. But the Republicans beat theDemocrats yesterday in the congressional baseball game thirty
one to eleven. It was close, Yeah, it was close for the

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first couple of for the first coupleof innings, and then the protesters came
out on the field and the Republicanshung a thirty bag on them. Well,
speaking of the Dodgers, though,a former Dodger great who wants to
be a Senator for California, hewas there in his Dodgers uniform. He
was a batting coach. I don'tknow what they I don't know what official

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term they use for him, buthe was in the dugout. It would
be funny there have been I wantto say Senator Jim Bunning is a Hall
of Fame baseball player who was obviouslyin the Senate also, and I think
he played in those games. Thenumber one golfer in the world, Scotti
Scheffler is the favorite to win theUS Open victory. They are at Where

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are they? They're in Pinehurst?I think it's South Carolina. Stanley Cup
Finals continue Florida at Edmonton tonight.Panthers lead the Oilers to nothing. The
Celtics came back and won. Theywon their third game, now one six
ninety nine over the Dallas Mavericks takea three zero lead in the NBA Finals.
What else is going on? Timefor what's happening? The big story

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out of DC dealing with the SupremeCourts, And we'll get a bunch of
these over the next couple of weeks. This one is sort of a blow
for anti abortion advocates. The SupremeCourt rejected a challenge to the abortion pill
myth of pristone. Every time Isay that, I feel like I'm saying
it wrong. Mytha pristone, Well, because there's an f yes, there

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is, but it seems like itshould be metha not mytha. Anyway,
that's a silly. The court foundthat the group of anti abortion doctors who
was questioning the FDA's decision to makeit easier to access the pill, that
those doctors did not actually have legalstanding to sue in all of this.
The justice who wrote for the courtin this case, Brett Kavanaugh, said

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that while the plaintiffs have sincere legal, moral, ideological, and policy objections
to elective abortion and to the FDA'srelaxed regulation of myth for pristone, that
doesn't mean that they have a federalcase, and said that they don't have
any sufficient suffered injury, meaning thatthe federal courts are the wrong forum to
address the plaintiff's concerns about the FDAactions. That you've got to go through

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some sort of executive action or legislativeaction, but getting it done in the
courts is not the way to doit. So some people have said this
is sort of a they kicked thecan because they didn't argue on the merits
of whether or not abortion pills werelegal. But this was an important This
is how the court does it well. One of the plaintiff's lawyers, she's
of course, she said she's disappointedin this, but she also said she

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told reporters she's hopeful the underlying lawsuitcan continue because three states Idaho, Missouri,
and Kansas have brought their own claimsand have different arguments for standing.
And if it goes back to theSupreme Court, then that's exactly what will
happen. YEP, Florida is gettingabsolutely drenched. Heavy rainfall swamping Florida for

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a third day in a row.They're expecting more tomorrow. Also, parts
of South Florida, including Miami,under a four of four level four high
risk of flooding. Rainfall throughout theday today. Significant flash flooding is expected
over urban areas. Local catastrophic flashflooding is very possible. Yeah, these

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high risk days, they're really rare, happening on fewer than four percent of
days each year on average, butaccount for more than eighty percent of all
flood damage and more than a thirdof all flood deaths in the entire US.
Not just Florida, but all acrossthe United States. They said as
much as twenty inches of rain hasfallen since Tuesday morning, and another four

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to eight inches of rain is expectedthrough tomorrow. So big power outage.
Also in Puerto Rico, a powercompany down there has announced that it has
restored electricity to most areas affected bythis massive outage. Three hundred and forty
thousand people in the capital of SanJuan were without power during what has been
a pretty brutal heat wave. Theysaid that there were two transmission that failed

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between San Juan and Aguas Boinas,which in Spanish means Aguas Good good waters.
This is sad. We had areporter on this, Laura Dius,
covered this American tourist with possible tiesto southern California. And while our reporting
shows that this is lasd a sheriff'sdeputy, we talked to his brother.

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Albert Calibet, fifty nine years old, disappeared on a Greek island Tuesday,
and his brother, obviously here insouthern California, worried. Six So he
goes there to the Greek Islands,and he was going on a hike and
he had planned to meet somebody onthe other side of this Greek island.

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Mind you, there's a blistering heatwave, so that makes this even more
concerning. He last texted sort ofa picture of the trail and the you
know, kilometer of how long thehike would be, and that was the
last form of communication. And theyhaven't seen him since. And so now

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the family members they were expected totravel to Greece today to try and help
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Gary and Shannon on demand from kfiAM six forty. Lakers are expected to
formally formally interview JJ Reddick for theirhead coaching position. According to people who
know JJ. Redick turns forty laterthis month, currently working in the broadcast

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booth for the NBA Finals. Neverbeen a coach before. He was the
front runner until Dan Hurley of Yukontook the lead for the front runner position.
That Hurley said no, I'm goingto stick to winning championships here for
the Huskies and said no, thanks. So now I would have already thought
that they already interviewed Reddick. Yeah, I thought so too, just because

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his name was in there for solong. Yeah, the we mentioned earlier
that Netflix is scheduled the Chestnut VersusKobayashi Unfinished Beef Show coming up on September
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So they're jet ugly Netflix special.Yeah, Unfinished Beef. A reminder,

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you can do that. Well,listen, you had an opportunity to interview
somebody a short time ago, afew days ago. Yes, and there's
some amazement on my part. I'lllet you introduce who it is that we're

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going to be speaking to next.Okay, So she is an eighteen year
old programming prodigy. Her name isAngelina. It's a boy. She is
from Los Angeles. She just graduatedhigh school days ago last Saturday. She

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already has been accepted to Caltech,but she's going to take a gap year
so that she can go so travelthe world and work with underserved communities and
teach them how to get inspired bystem. Oh and by the way,
she's an app creator. She's createdapps. Tim Cook loves her. Here.
Come on, Angelina, come tothe Apple campus. She became the

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youngest person to ever speak at aNASA events recently. I mean, do
I have to go on and on? She's smart, Angelina. I would
like to say welcome. First ofall, thank you so much. You
and I have a lot in commonin that we've both graduated high school.
Where does the love of technology comefrom? Is do? Where do you

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even begin to develop apps? Imean, how does that get anywhere close
to your brain and you run withit? Yeah, I would say it's
a great intersection between my skill setand creativity. I got into programming when
I was seven, and the firstthing I ever programmed was a simple maze
game. And don't say it likethat, it's a simple. Well,

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I was seven at the time,and it was like a block coding,
Like, oh, how silly.Yeah, But like the process of like
coming up with something in my headand then bring it and get into tangible
reality and making something that also otherscan enjoy and benefit from was really satisfying
to me. And I feel likea lot of people don't really understand that

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feeling. But that's what brings mea lot of passion and a lot of
joy in my life. Being ableto use my skills that in order to
contribute positively to society. It givesyou a lot more ability, like faith
and ability in your own skill setand a keen awareness that yes, I
can do something that can benevolently impactthe world no matter where I am.

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Because with computers, if you writecode, anyone can pretty much use it.
It's not like mechanical engineering or likeelectrical engineering, where you're like you're
only confined to a physical product.With software, you can impact hundreds,
if not thousands of people or millions. I mean, yeah, don't don't
sell yourself short. Millions is notout of the realm of possibility. You
seventeen or eighteen different coding languages youspeak? Yeah, yeah, I listen.

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I stopped understanding different computer languages aftersay, I'm trying to even think
what they were, cobal, cplus plus those languages. That's sound right?
Look at her? Yeahes that soundright? Those are languages, right,
yes? So can you name whatthey are? Now? I wouldn't
even know what the names of theselanguages are. Well some I can name

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some of my favorites. Oh good. For low level stuff like electronics and
firmware, I really like using crustis one of my favorites. I would
say for higher end stuff like mobileapplications, JavaScript type script is always I've
heard of JavaScript for scientific research.It really depends on the application, right,

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Like working on a wide range ofapplications, whether it be like data
science or like machine learning kind ofprojects like AI, websites, apps,
they all use like different flavors,different frameworks, and you kind of have
to adjust. But the thing islike, once you master like your first
few programming languages, it's not thathard to pick up another programming language.

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I feel like, if you're likea musician that plays the guitar, like
once you learn a few good songs, you can pretty much like improvise or
like learn another song. It's kindof like that. Would it be simple?
Well, I'll ask you this onthe other side of the break.
Can you stick around? I'd lovethat. This is fantastic. Okay,
Angelina's boy to tell you the appsthat she's developed too. Yes, it's

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amazing. We'll get into that aswell. You're doing great. Don't be
nervous. Don't be nervous and stopshowing off. Also just kidding. I'll
just kidding. Gary and Shannon willcontinue. Marla is in for Shannon.
We're talking with Angelina so Boy.You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand
from KFI AM six sporting. AngelinaSoboy has joined us a newly crowned high

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school graduate who's already done more inher young life than a lot of us
will ever do. Oh without question. Before we get back to Angelina,
I want to remind you that tonight'sthe Dodgers take on the Texas Rangers in
LA. First pitch is at seveno'clock. You can list every play of
every Dodgers game on AM five toseventy LA Sports. The stream all of
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LA Sports powered by LA Care forall of LA. We'll talk about you're
going to go to cal Tech aftera year, and you're talking about traveling
around and doing some other projects,and we'll get to that in a second.
You were talking about the different computerlanguages that you can code in,
and you prefer different languages for differentapplications and different scenarios, and you said

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that it's easy to learn once youknow a couple of them. They're kind
of they all sort of branch off, is it? And I don't know
if this is the right analogy.Is it? Like Latin based languages,
Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, thingslike that, a lot of the words
are very very similar, and thenit goes from there. Brandon hit her
microphone forming would you sorry, goahead. Yes, it's the same underlying

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concept and principles that government computation,and once you master those principles, it's
just understanding, like the different syntax, so like different keywords mean different things.
Just it's like measured. Like onceyou, like no, understand the
word like let's say you understand theword dog it's like an animal, then

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you can understand its connotations in differentlanguages, like in Spanish it's bettle Like
it's just memorizing at that point.Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
So let's talk about some of theapps that you have developed, because one
of them was born out of thepandemic, really and it's life saving.
I'm talking about your CPR at Yeah. So I've worked on a variety of

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applications all over the place, rangingfrom like hardware to websited applications, and
one is called Pocket CPR. It'san Apple Watch based CPR guidance tool.
And I created it during the pandemicbecause I was taking online CPR classes as
we all did. Don't but youknow again, don't show off. We
all took CPR classes during the pandem, I was just interested kidding, And

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I remember one of the pain pointsI had when I was learning CPR in
an online setting was like the differentaptic rates because you had to like press
down on the chest at like differentcompression rates, and like there's specific techniques,
like specific songs to RHYTHMSLI stay mid. Yeah, but like it felt
weird and there was like no kindof like I didn't understand if I was

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doing it right or doing it wrong. There's no feedback, there's no feedback
at all. So it was like, oh, how can I use my
skill set in order to make thiseasier for myself and hopefully make it easier
for other people. So that's wherethat idea was. Okay, if this
is a silly question for people likeme, So you have an idea for
an app and you're going to dothis? Yes, I don't even know

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how to ask the question. Isthere an app that helps you develop the
app? I mean? Or doyou just do you just throw open your
computer and start coding something and thencompress it I don't even know the words
compress it into an app and giveit to the Apple Store or why do
you? Yeah? So luckily Idon't have to write everything from scratch.
That would be an increase incredibly burdenedsome tasks. So there's things called developer

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tools, and they're like a layeron top of like all the underlying based
Codeing to write it sounds like atemplate shortcutsa you still are writing the code.
It's not like Dragon Drop. It'snot that easy, but it makes
it things a lot easier. AndApple has one called xcode and which is
like an entire developer studio. Theywork on it every single year to make

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it as comprehensive as possible, specificallyfor making iOS applications, and they had
one for like the Apple Watch itselfthat made writing the code really streamlined.
And they have their own programming languagecalled Swift, which is also easy to
work show. It almost sounds likeand again I'm just trying to wrap my
head around it. From what Iknow, it sounds like something that,

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as an example, YouTube might putup a creative a creator studio that they
have where they have different tools andmusic and things that you can use there
that then eventually would result in whatevervideo that you want to put up.
And so Apple does that with thetools to make the apps themselves exactly.
See, I'm getting it. Ifeel like I'm getting it. There you
go. Well, she has herown software company that she started. She's

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Santa Monica Bassed. So maybe youwant to hire Gary. He can help
in some way. I'm not sure. I wouldn't make through the first interview.
What about Lilac. Lilac is anotherapp that you developed. Yeah,
so Lilac is like a grand translatorconnection service I created, And it was

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based off of like my family background. So I'm I'm born to be like
an immigrant mother, and like whenshe came here and she was like raising
three kids on her own, wehad a lot of problems, Like she
had a lot of problems specifically withthe language barrier here, and I was
like, oh, how could IAnd it was a pretty like deep problem

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for me because, like I think, looking back at it now, I
think it impacted a lot more thingsthan at the moment because I have a
higher over like level overview of howthings get impacted. Sure, and I
wanted since it was such a deeplyrooted problem for me, I wanted I

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And I've also heard of different friendshaving the same kind of problems, especially
if their parents, like were originallyfrom this country or keep from from a
different country. It's there's a lotof discrimination and a lot of like hardship
there. So essentially I created aplatform that allows people who are struggling either
to find like translation services or likegrants in order to find funding so they

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can like independently like raise children withouthaving a huge language bearer like my mom
did. So, if I'm understanding, this is a multi language app that
connects non English speaking parents with childcare, things like housing and also translation services.
Yeah, so what do you dofor fun besides code? I mean
we were talking about during the commercialbreak there that you're a pilot as well,

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card carrying licensed pilot or you justlike to, you know, grab
the yoke on the airplane sometimes likeI do. Yeah, I'm I am
licensed on private pilot and I knowhow to fly single engineerplanes any like general
air aviation aircraft. I could beable to fly per the license. And

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I got into it because I dida program when I was to think about
fourteen years old called Young Eagles,and I took my first flight there and
I was like, oh my goodness, this is so fascinating. I think
it's all the same thing, likeunderlying programming or aviation or all the other
like engineering stuff I do. Ithink it's a keen fascination with the experiences

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the universe can provide and trying tolike pragmatically find my way through it.
And it's awesome because I feel likein any of those pursuits, like it
can be like anxiety provoking, Likesometimes I get really anxious or really angry
when I get like fifty errors inmy code, But at the same time,
it gives you like the sense ofadventure, like you're trying to uncover

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something or you're trying to like buildsomething new that hasn't existed before, and
it's really frilling. Well does whenyou're piloting, I mean, when you're
in the air, are you relaxed? Do you talk about the potential for
there to be anxiety, but isit a relaxing thing for you? Yeah?
I would say like once you're goodat it and once you're competent in
it, you can find your stateof flow. There's this book called Flow

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that I read, I think afew years ago, and like finding your
state of flow is finding that balancebetween competence and anxiety. You don't want
things to be so overcomplicated that youfeel super anxious, but at the same
time you don't want things to beso easy that you're not being challenged.
So finding that balance between the twoand developing from there. I think you've

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found that balance. I think youdo it really, really well. I
mean, one of the things Iwas struck by was, you know,
when you were on Fox eleven,we were walking off to down the hall
after being on air, and yousaid, you know, I'm no smarter
than anyone else, but I'm hereto say no, no, I would
say I'm not. That's more thananyone else, I think, and everyone

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has the capacity to be what I'veto do, what I've done, or
I just I feel like I wasvery motivated. I also surrounded myself with
the right people. I didn't letlike other It's really important who you surround
yourself with, and I was veryvery keen about surrounding myself with really intelligent

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people that knew their stuff and askMy trick is like asking really really smre
people elaborate questions and you can learnso much from that and like open up
new gateways and it just opens upyour mind so you're aware of stuff and
also being perceptive, like paying attentionto problems. Like whenever I see two
people talking and they like one ofthem mentioned a problem, I'm like,
Oh, that's how could I solvethat? Or how would I tackle I

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don't have all the time in theworld to solve all the problems, but
I could be aware and have anawareness of what other people are struggling with,
so I can have that empathy.We have a Jeopardy question coming up?
Can you play with us for onemore segment? Sure? Okay,
you're listening to Gary and Shannon ondemand from Hey if I am six forty
Angelina so boy has joined us.We're talking about her young career as an

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early app developer, and then whateverthe future holds appears to be pretty darn
bright. Before we get back toyou and your adventures that are about to
come up, it's time for usto play a little jeopardy. So Marla
asks this question. We'll see howsmart. So the category is deafistions,

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what def deaf emissions? For fourhundred? The answer is a four letter
synonym for a droit or skillful.Oh, okay, I know, I

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know, I know, I know, I know, I know. So
do you want to say it atthe same time, or yeah, three,
what is two? One? Aft? It's deft because it was you
didn't give her the rules. Sothe rules are when it's in quotation marks

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that it will be included in theanswer definition. And yeah, see there
you go. She's not old enoughto know how Alex Trebek was not hey
but perfect. Yeah. Hey,I didn't even like, h you're doing

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just fine. We were talking offthe air. You met Tim Cook from
Apple and he wanted to talk toyou. Also obviously mentioned that the CPR
app that you're talking about. Whatwas that like, I mean, you
got invited to meet Tim Cook?That's yeah, Oh my goodness. It
was crazy for me. I couldn'tbelieve it because I felt that before I

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was invited to like Apple's headquarters,I felt kind of frustrated because I've been
coding for over I think nine yearsand eight years at that point, and
more than half of your life.Yeah, more than half of my life,
and I wasn't really getting anything outof it. I was like,
oh, why am I coding allthese apples? Like I was helping people
and it gave me a lot ofsense of satisfaction, but I wasn't really
given any credibility, Like I didn'treally receive any rewards at that point.

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I was just doing it for thejoy of doing it. And it was
frustrating because like it didn't really showthat I didn't know how other people would
respond to my work right, andhaving that opportunity were like Apple like one
of the hugest corporations in the world, and the CEO of Apple would be
interested in some of the work Iwould do was just mind bloating. I
couldn't believe it. Like when Iwas sitting in a chair and Tim Cook

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came across Apple Park, Like,if you don't know, the Apple Park
looks like like this huge ring,it looks like and yeah, we were
in the dead center of it.And then I look over my shoulder and
I'm like, oh, that tallguy with like short hair looks it looks
familiar. Well, outside of TimCook, is there anybody else in that

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sort of realm that you would thatyou'd love to meet or that you idolize
or yeah, well I would saythis is pretty audacious, But I am
planning on. So all of thework I do now is centered around cybersecurity,
and I specifically do cybersecurity for satellites, and one satellite constellation that is
pretty popular that I've specifically been interestedin is Starling. Sure, and like

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securing Startling because they've ben getting alot of hacking attempts, especially with like
recent conflicts that's been happening securing theirsatellite infrastructure. And it would be cool
if I like do end up teachingclasses on cybersecurity at places like SpaceX to
like casually, I don't know,stop by have a chat with eat On
about the Startling run into them inthe lunch room. Yeah right, I

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do have a quick brain storm sessionabout how we can provide internet not sufficiently
and securely not only for our planetEarth, but also as we colonize other
planets like Mars, and how setup like the internet infrastructure there. Got
to get some high speed internet.You don't want to do dial up on
Mars. Just two, it's notacceptable. Well, Angelina, we wish

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you the best of luck on this. Like you said, this this gap
year that you're going to take andtravel, continue to learn, and then
whatever time at Caltech, it's goingto be fun to watch your future unfold
in front of you. So thanksfor coming in. Yeah, thanks for
all you do. I really appreciateit, Thank you so much. It
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