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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kfi
AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
That's where you would start if you wanted to see
what it was like to be blind, But closing your
eyes seems a little bit two on the nose, maybe
to see if you were actually blind. Gary and Shannon
kfi AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
The Return of Yellowstone delivered the show's biggest premiere night

(00:31):
audience ever across cable and CBS. The season five, Part
two debut drew sixteen almost sixteen and a half million viewers.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Did you get in trouble at all for saying earlier
what happened in the episode?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Everyone knew it was coming right, Well, I I don't.
There was one person who on talkback said WTAF WTAF
maybe absolute actual, actual what it is, but it's not.
That wasn't a giant spoiler. It happens in the first

(01:06):
thirty seconds of the show and sets up sort of
what they're going to do for the rest of the season,
and knowing the machinations in the first part of season anyway,
sixteen point five million is what they're doing. Did you
see that? Denzel says he's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Retire Denzel Perriman wrong, Denzel Washington best actor ever? Yeah,
I think Denzel Perryman was named after him.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
He plans to retire from Hollywood. He's got a slate
of movies that he's working on, but he says after
that he's going to retire. He said, I've been talking
with Steve McQueen about a film. After that. Ryan Coogler's
writing apart for me in the next Black Panther. After that,
I'm going to do the film Othello. After that, I'm
going to do King Lear And after that I'm going
to retire Shakespeare. Couple he started in Shakespeare. He said

(01:53):
he did a fellow at twenty two. Oh okay, so
it's like a full circle moment. Yeah, that'd be quite cool.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I have your jet pretty question before we get to
Trump's cabinet. What is the number one top selling jersey
in the NFL right now today?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah? Can I ask a quick follow up? Yes, well,
it's a silly question. I think I'm already I was
gonna say, is it a current player? Yes? Okay, most
popular jersey.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
From the NFL top selling, number one top selling jersey
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Number one top selling jersey the NFL. You know what
they say in Star Wars? Look within? That's they do?
Do they not say that within? I feel like Yoda
says that or someone Darth Vader. Is it the Trevor
Lawrence jersey that comes with its own wig?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Would it be justin Herbert? What did I What advice
did I give you? Look within? Look within? Within? Where
your heart my heart? Yes?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
C J.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Stroud right there, right inside your dead cold heart.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
But the largest, the largest size they have is a medium. No,
that's Bryce Young.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
C J.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Stroud is six three. You keep saying this. C J.
Stroud is this huge person.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Bryce Young is the one who's five ten maybe both
like five ft four.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
That is you're so you're wrong. Do you want to
know what the rest of the list is? Yes?

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Number two, Caleb Williams, Number three, Patrick Mahomes number four,
Aiden Hutchinson number five. I was gonna say something mean
like that comes with crutches or something, but I didn't.
Number five, Jaden Daniels, number six, I'm on ros Saint
Brown number seven, Ceed Lamb number eight, Josh Allen number

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nine Justin Jefferson and number ten Max Crosby.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
So am, I right, Saint Brown is the first non
quarterback on that list. The top five or six are
all quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Let me see here, one, two, three, No, Aiden Hutchinson's
not a quarter.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
But yeah, okay, that's good. Yeah, there you go. Time
for swamp watch. Swamp is horrible, the government doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Good man, You're gonna make this like a reality TV
show bad.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Which is always a pleasure to be in it. Within Washington,
z c. Hey, Joe, it was like a town and
it could have been the never ending story in so
many ways. Still a swamp watch, make, he said, drained
the swamp. I said, oh that's so keep You know
the thing, Well, we're getting closer to a Trump presidency,

(04:40):
the forty seventh president of the United States, and we
know some of who would be in his cabinet if
he were to pick today. The Republican Florida Senator Marco Rubio,
seen as a pretty hawkish unfeign policy, tough on China,
tough on Iran, he would be Secretary of According to
some of these reports, he was also in consideration to

(05:03):
be a running mate be the vice president. On the
ticket before Trump selected Jade Vance. And I remember, listen,
we talked about this in that first segment. Susie Wilds,
of course, who's now been named chief of Staff. Incredibly
powerful woman and apparently incredibly powerful when it comes to

(05:23):
fleshing out this cabinet. Marco Rubio is one of her favorites,
and apparently she had a large hand in suggesting him
for Secretary of State.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So I was reading this article about how Democrats lost
Latinos and how this is too great of a voting
block to lose. They say millions of Latinos in this country,
just like the white auto workers in Michigan, the truck
drivers in Pennsylvania, that they feel like they're getting left
behind in this global economy that the Democrats preach that

(05:58):
seems to fuel itself by hollowing out border towns and
still steel mill cities. For decades, Democrats relied on Latinos
seeing Republicans as racist or hostile to immigrants, to keep
high percentages of that group's support. But now Latinos seem
to have lost faith and the Democrats handle on the economy,

(06:20):
even with Trump's you know, chants at times accusing immigrants
of poisoning the blood of our country. They say that
they they just care about the working class. Over eighty
percent of Latinos are working class. An enormous number of
them are strivers for working manual labor. Trump's appeal in

(06:44):
a Latino meatpacking town looks a lot like his appeal
in the white factory towns in Michigan and Pennsylvania. But
these are the working class, the people that feel left
out by the elite. And it used to just be
the white people in Appalachia, but now it's the Latinos
and working towns.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I saw a statistic that there are I believe it's
fourteen counties in Texas along the Rio Grande River, and
that four years ago only five of them voted for Trump.
This round, twelve of those fourteen counties along the Rio
grand voted for Trump. And obviously they're very heavily Latino

(07:22):
populated counties, but that would be a very specific evidence
that they broke for Trump this year. Here is something else.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
They lost support, even Democrats did, even among undocumented Latinos
that there were friends in Excuse me, this one woman
they spoke to, she says, I've got friends in one
of these border towns, though they couldn't vote, nonetheless supported Trump.
Some had lived in the States for decades, working long hours,

(07:53):
paying Social Security taxes they'd never get back. They felt
bitter and aggrieved that the newest arrivals, especially people from Venezuela,
had been given that humanitarian Biden kiss, the humanitarian parole
while they themselves still lacked legal status, that the newcomers
are getting ahead of in line over them because of

(08:17):
the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, that feeling, I think they've put this article puts
it very well. The feeling of being cut in line
is the glue that unites conservatives in this country. Whatever
arena that is, if you feel like you've waited patiently
for your opportunity and it's been taken away from you
or handed to somebody else who didn't deserve it, that

(08:37):
was a uniting theme. And in this case it happens
to be immigration, which is a pretty significant and inescapable
truth about what happened last Tuesday. So how do they
fix it? It makes sense, you know when you think.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
About when the Democrats were winning all the Latino votes
and you know, amnesty and all these things. That was
you know, a long time ago that people have been
here for decades now. They don't identify with the people
coming in from Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, and I mean one of those people they She
said she's at ninety seven percent Latino. Sorry, Star County
is ninety seven percent Latino. Star is more Mexican by
population than some places in Mexico because of the demographics
live within. When we come back the court cases and

(09:28):
the ongoing court cases against President elect Trump, what that
means going forward, because the New York judge has decided
to punt a bit when it comes to the criminal
hush money conviction. News Nation's Laura Ingle is going to
join us in just a couple of minutes.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
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Speaker 1 (10:50):
We were talking about only children and more and more
households that are deciding to just have the one child.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, was that a decision for you or did you
grow up as a single child, a lone lone child,
only child, only child. I'm always fascinated by when was
the moment you realized, oh, not every family is like mine. Yeah,
I mean there are times, you know, you spend the
night at a friend's house or or you know, college

(11:19):
or something like that. My roommate in college, had a
he had a weird, weird life. It just there was
there was like, well, there was some abuse in the home.
There was some confusion in the home. There was a
lot of weird stuff. Abuse like mild abuse or real abuse.
It was pretty serious. Oh wow. Yeah, I mean he

(11:41):
was a very well adjusted guy. He hadn't worked through everything,
but and he was very honest with me. And he
was still, I mean, just a great guy. But yeah,
that that opened my eyes quite a bit. Not everything
was Pollyanna. Yeah, you thought your house was the way
all houses were. Yeah, that is not the case now,

(12:01):
not by a long shot, that's for certain. We also
got a call from.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Mary and this is Mike from the High High Desert.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I just wanted to tell you guys that I love
you've done.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
I listened to your every day.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, thank you for that. Appreciate especially if you're out
in the High Desert. A couple other names we didn't
get to regarding potential cabinet picks. Environmental Protection Agency director
Lee Zelden. He is a congressman from New York. He
was once a gubernatorial candidate outspoken defender of Trump. During
his first impeachment, Trump mentioned Lee Zelden's legal background, which

(12:36):
is he's going to probably lean on the APIA to
roll back some of the environmental regulations. At least. The
fanic from a congresswoman from New York could be the
UN ambassador pick Christy noam In as Homeland Security Secretary,
obviously helping team up with Tom Holman to oversee the
immigration crackdown. We already mentioned Susie Wiles of course as

(12:57):
chief of Staff, but one of the deputy chiefs of
Staff in this case for policy would be Stephen Miller,
probably going to work heavily on the immigration issue as well.
And then National Security Advisor Mike Walls, congressman out of Florida,
as a guy who gets bipartisan support for his experience
if nothing else. A Green Beret, the first Green Beret

(13:20):
ever elected to Congress, would potentially serve as the national
security official leaving the House after he represented Florida since
twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
The talk about Marco Rubio is bothering some MAGA Republicans
Trump loyalists. They say that he doesn't have Great America
First credentials. They don't think that the decision was made
by Trump. They're holding out hope for Rick Grinnell and
people inside Trump are older saying, well, it's not a

(13:51):
done deal. And Amy King actually brought something up earlier
this morning. She said, remember first summer around when Trump
took Romney to dinner and everyone thought he was going
to get a post and I was like, just kidding,
kind of he does this, you know, with people that
he went toe to toe with in the past.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
It'd be interesting to see what happens there. New York
Judge one Mayor Sean has agreed to give Manhattan prosecutors
and Trump's lawyers a week to figure out how to
proceed in the hush money case now that Trump has
been re elected. Of course, all of this was thrown
into disarray when the Supreme Court decided that there are

(14:28):
a lot of things that a president gets to enjoy
immunity from while he is president. He or she and
he's sentencing for the criminal conviction is in jeopardy. Jack
Smith is now in talks with the Justice Department about
how to end the federal case against Trump. The Georgia
election subversion case continues to be delayed because of legal

(14:50):
fights over the status of Fannie Willis. The Fulton County
DA and the Trump appointed federal judge Aileen Cannon threw
out the charges against Trump for mishandling those classified documents
because of the incorrect appointment of Jack Smith in her
legal opinion, the appointment of Jack Smith to even investigate

(15:10):
that in the first place. So this was the latest.
This decision today the latest in the victories that have
basically wiped away any likelihood that he would face any
legal repercussions after he was indicted four different times last year.
Mershawn had been set to rule today on this motion

(15:31):
to vacate his conviction on the thirty four counts of
falsifying business records after the Supreme Court determined in June
that he should receive and any president should receive, broad
immunity for official acts during his time in office. The
issue has successfully helped Trump twice delay his sentencing, and
he's arguing that these charges should be dismissed at all,
or at the least the conviction should be vacated because

(15:53):
the DA's office was relying on evidence related to his
official acts as president, which of course is what the
Supreme Court said would be immune from prosecution.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I have breaking news from the desk of Donald j. Trump,
it's not about coronavirus. He has just announced that he
will nominate this person to be the United States Ambassador
to Israel, and he guesses.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Bernie Sanders, why would you say that?

Speaker 6 (16:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Why would you say that, Joe Lieberman.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Mike Huckaby, oh, former governor of Arkansas, will be the
US Ambassador to Israel.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Trump's at in a statement.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Mike has been a great public servant, a governor, and
leader in faith for many years. He loves Israel, the
people of Israel, and likewise the people of Israel love him.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Sure, the people of Israel have Mike Huckaby top of mind.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
He always puts one extra sentence in there, Israel do
not love Mike Huckaby.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I'm sorry you have polling information on that.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I mean, name can you name one person in power
other than.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
And Yahoo in Israel? Not that he hasn't fired, I mean,
and certainly.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Not anybody down the wrong of Mike Huckabee.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
That's funny. That is funny. When we come back, we'll
talk about the art of just dropping in, but also
the issue of having one child. Were you an only child,
did it affect your life? When did you figure out
you weren't an only child. You can always leave us
a talkback message on the iHeart app. Just hit that

(17:29):
little button and it leaves us a message that comes
in right into this computer, and we laugh at it
before we play it. Don't swear, don't swear? Well, I
mean you can. But come on, who's going to get
in trouble around here these days? Yeah? But when now?
When we say that no one comes to work, it's
because no one works here.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
That's true. We have a staff meeting this afternoon. We
think that there's gonna be six or seven people.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
There, depends if you leave earlier or not.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I don't know the new people don't know my feeling
about meetings.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
It'll be obvious. Will it be obvious? You keep it?
You don't hide that very well? Ah, all right, you
jangle your keys when they're like, okay, we'd like everybody
to come in.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, you started telling me I can't bring my keys
to the meetings anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Can I start bringing in them again? Probably? Not yet.
I would say, let's have one meeting without your keys. Okay. Fine.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Later on we're going to talk in Tuesday. The True
Crime Tuesday segment comes up at close to the bottom
of the hour. California governor Knew some traveling to the
nation's capital this week. He's there to what he say
protects California's policies from Trump. Following Trump's win in the
White House race last week. The governor is trying to
get five point two billion dollars reimbursement for emergency funding.

(18:54):
He wants to update the Medicaid program, medical and other priorities.
During his meetings with leaders in the Biden administration, he
left yesterday's expected to come back tomorrow. He'll also meet
with California's congressional representatives as well. Tomorrow also a significant
day because that is when former president and President elect

(19:16):
Trump is expected to sit down with Joe Biden. The
current president invited Trump to the White House for the
traditional sort of fun walk elect next to the Rose
Garden kind of photo op.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Because I know that you hold near and dear to
your heart celebrity relationships.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I have some bad news for you. Why you got
it more bad news? Really seems like the only song
that played in my head all day yesterday, really all day.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, Jessica Simpson turns out the rumors are true. She
is unhappy with her marriage to Eric Johnson. Two divorce
lawyers have been contacted about this marriage with in the
recent weeks.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Who's Eric Johnson? He was a tight end for the
forty nine ers?

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Was he?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Okay? My heart is not? You didn't know who Jessica
Simpson's husband was? I did not so crazy after Nick? Nick? Yeah,
that guy I didn't follow her love life? Weird. Well,
I just felt listen, if you can't make it work
with Nick Lache, you're not going to make it work
with anybody. Probably, It's a rule in my life.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Garyan Shannon, I'd like your opinion on this one question.
Do you think that our President Donald Trump will keep
Eric Garcetti as ambassador in India?

Speaker 5 (20:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh, that's a silly question. There's no current in bat Well.
I shouldn't say no, but very few current ambassadors who
will be the remaining on station. The ambassadors go out
with the bathwater.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Sorry for calling every everyone's attention to Joe Biden's bathwater.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh what.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
I remember putting oatmeal in my bath water? Oh? So
this article that we pointed out earlier about the coming
rain of the only child, that more and more families
are either choosing or are relegated to having just one child,
and why that is many different reasons for a lot

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of people. Sometimes they start their families later, and biology
doesn't work that well when you're later in life. Sometimes
you just choose to have one. Sometimes you want more,
but you can only have one.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Hey, guys, I'm an only child and I was raised
by a single mom, and I'm probably the most empathetic dude.
I'm like a king Saposaurus. I'm too much empathy and
sympathy for my own good. So it has nothing to
do with the single child thing. Used a little bit

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of not giving a crab.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Love you guys.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I hear a cow or a cat in there? And
what's a king seposaurus? Is that a dinosaur?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I have no idea. I don't know. I need clarification, Harry, Hi, Shannon.

Speaker 9 (22:15):
I'm a mother of an only child, and I have
to say she is no more spoiled than kids of
her generation that have siblings. It's all about how you
raise them and how you teach them, whether they're only
children or a family of ten. I resent the only

(22:37):
child spoiled syndrome because that falls back on the parents.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
That's a good point. I know a handful of people
that were raised as only children, and I don't they
never none of them fit that trope of being spoiled
or unempathetic.

Speaker 10 (22:52):
Garry and Shannon.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm an only child.

Speaker 10 (22:55):
I've always said that I was spoiled, but I was
never a brat. I did spend a lot of time
with adults, and so I learned how to talk to
people a little bit better than some people that had
lots of siblings. But my best friend was one of
four and so and I was always included in their
family activities as well. So only children are okay, They're

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just okay.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
The Spinosaurus is known as the king of the dinosaurs,
the bulkiest carnivore to ever walk the earth.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
But he didn't say spinosaurus. He didn't. He said Cephasaurus.
I think we'll check it.

Speaker 11 (23:35):
Hey, Shannon and Gary create talking about only kids. That
was me sucked. Why to get blamed for everything? You
have to clean everything, and you are the dumping ground
for the parents emotional and other kind of stresses.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, so what I do?

Speaker 11 (23:54):
I have three kids, I hope it was worth it,
because right now they kind of hate each other, love
you guys each.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Other for for a while. So you dump your your
emotional stress on three kids instead of one. No, that's
not true. They can share in that burden and.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Probably the most empathetic dude, I like a king sapasaurus.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
And see, oh I get it, saposaurus like he sat
king sasaurus.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, I see all right.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I was an only child raised by a single mother,
and so because she was working full time to support us,
I was often you know, shipped around between households of
friends and and I most definitely learned how to have

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you know, fake siblings. I guess you could call it.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, I wonder that idea of a single parent, single child.
There's a that is a unique bond, good or bad.
It's a very unique bond that probably doesn't exist anywhere
else because you, if you're you have to rely on
that person to be a friend while they're being your
child or parent. I mean, it's the only other person

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in your life, unless, like she says, there's another family. Hope.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
So, Gary and Channon, my mom read that book from
doctor Spock, and she said, the only thing it was
good for was spank.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
In my butt?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Did it work?

Speaker 6 (25:23):
Hey?

Speaker 12 (25:24):
Gary and Shannon four kids in three years. Yes, there
was a set of twins. The only bummer about it
is all four of them were in college at one time,
a big, huge boatload of money going out at one time.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Happiest day of.

Speaker 12 (25:39):
Our lives is when the twins graduated. We felt like
we got a pay raise. It could be worse, though.
My cousin had thirteen. Wow, So don't say big families
don't exist. Talk to the Catholics. They still do this.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
One of the guys I used to work with in Seattle,
his kids were just preteens. I believe it was. He
had a couple of kids. Yeah, then he had triplets.
He had two kids, and he could see the horizon,
he could see the eighteenth birthdays, and he had triplets.
He went from two kids to five kids in the

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course of one That's a lot sperm.

Speaker 13 (26:19):
Yeah, guys, Rick and La Vista, we only had one son.
Wanted to have others, but congenital cataracts runs in our family,
including partial sight and complete blindness. So once we figured
that out and knew that our son had the same thing,
we just decided we did adopt, but never got around

(26:41):
to it.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh, that was it. That's kind of a sad story.
Good morning Gary, Good morning Shanning. It's just Michael.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
I am an only child. I have the last half
Irish descendant from my family tree, and I made myself
a promise one day if I should ever get married,
and I did that I was going to have at
least two kids, because being an early child. These says
all great, not necessarily all right, peace out.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Thank you, peace out, May the road rise to meet
you or whatever.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Okay, do you hear about the guy in Wisconsin who
faked his debt to get away from his family.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I'm listening. I'll tell you how to guide we return.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Just sorry, I thought in rehearsal that you were going
to now listen.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's been a trying time these days round here, and
news is suffering.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
You can just oh. House Speaker Mike Johnson says Republicans
are ready to deliver on President elect Trump's mandate. He
said Republicans are not going to make the mistakes of
the first term, and they'll be more prepared for a
second term Trump White House. He was on the steps
of the capital today with members of his House Republican

(28:08):
leadership team. He said that there will be no time
wasted before work on the America First agenda of securing
the border and other priorities in what he says will
be he expects to be a unified government.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Trump has formally announced another decision here another selection, Representative
Mike Waltz, to join his administration as National Security Advisor.
First green Beret who have been elected to Congress previously
served in the White House and Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
We saw Wall Street start in the positive note for
once again after the election that's been skyrocketing. The Dow
is currently down about two hundred and forty five points,
but still over the forty four thousand mark. S and
P five hundred his slid just a tiny bit, and
the Nasdaq is barely into positive territory right now as well.

(29:00):
I guess if you wanted to get away, you know, well,
he told you that there's a cruise line that's offering
a four year cruise for people to get out so
that they can come back and you know, skip forward,
I think is what it's called. So you miss four
years of a Trump presidency, okay, And if you think
a cruise is going to be better than that.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, sometimes you don't want to get away from a president.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You want to get away from your family.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
And that is exactly the case for a guy by
the name of Ryan Borgwart, forty four year old husband
and father of three in Wisconsin, goes kayaking for the
day on August twelfth and never comes home. Deputies went
to Green Lake where Ryan had set to go out fishing.

(29:46):
They found his van, They found his trailer near the
boat launch. After launching a boat in the water, the
deputies discovered a capsized kayak and a light vest in
the deepest part of the lake, so they started s
fisherman casting along the bottom of the lake pulled up
a fishing rod which was confirmed to be Ryan's. His
wife confirmed that that was his fishing pole, and then

(30:09):
later that day someone found Ryan's tackle box. It had
his keys, hiss, his license, and his wallet.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well, that means Ryan Borgwart must have died except for
one problem. What was the problem? No body.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
They spent months scouring the lake to find the body.
They used sonar to go down two hundred and twenty
feet in some spots. They flew drones around the massive
lake to find him. From afar, they brought in cadaver dogs,
hoping the dogs would find the body.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Keith Kormakan is a director of an organization that helps
authorities find the bodies of drowning victims, and approached the
sheriff after scouring the lake in a boat for twenty
eight days, and he said he wasn't going to be
giving up. He had requested some state of the art
sonar equipment, although it was going to take a while
for them to arrive.

Speaker 11 (31:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
All this happened in mid August. On October seventh, the
sheriff told his investigators they needed to try something else,
so they started digging into Ryan Borgwart's background and soon
discovered the Canadian authorities had run his name after he disappeared.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
They began to suspect this was no longer a case
of accidental drowning, but a sophisticated fraud. The FBI was
brought in and a digital forensics analyst from the States
Justice Department searched Ryan's laptop.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
What did they find on the laptop?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
They discovered that Ryan had been communicating with a woman
in Huzbekistan.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
It was Bekistani woman.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
He had made inquiries about moving money to a foreign bank.
He allegedly replaced the hard drive on laptop before the
kayaking trip.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh, don't forget. He had also.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Taken out a three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars
life insurance policy.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Aha. Well, the sheriff came to the conclusion that there
was no body. Because there was no body, investigators figured
out that he'd spent months meticulously secretly putting into place
the pieces that he needed to stage his own death
and abandoned his nasty old family for a new life.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Do you think it was a woman that was helping
him secure the foreign bank transaction or was this a
woman that he was having sexy time with?

Speaker 2 (32:42):
How do you hook up with a woman from Uzbekistan?
Probably only the same old fashioned way. They're built much
like other humans. What do you mean, well, I mean,
how did how was he to in the first place? Right? Apparently?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh, there's a love habibi and it's you can sign
up on lovehabebee dot com and you can connect with
people from using Bekistan looking for love. Apparently it's a
thing to marry Usbek woman, Uzbekistan.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
The sheriff said that the family. Ryan Borgwart's family is
doing relatively well, he said, doing rather well, three kids.
He's got two sons in high school and a daughter
in's at grade school. Shocked to hear what investigators think
their father did to fake his death, something that their
mother has known for weeks as she was helping authorities,
he said, I put a lot on her shoulders, the
sheriff said, suggesting that he had to tell them the wife, Hey,

(33:46):
we think he's faking it, but we can't. You can't
tell your kids yet. Authority is still investigating. They'll consider
what criminal charges might be foul. Doesn't know where Ryan
Borgwart is, but nevertheless has a message for him, the
sheriff said, at Ryan, if you are viewing this, I
plead that you contact us or contact your family. We

(34:06):
understand that things can happen, but there's a family that
wants their daddy back. After of course he goes to
jail for a certain of one very sad for fraud
and things like that. You've fantasized about just leaving, right,
haven't you not? To Uzbekistan. Well, no, no, no, I
don't think you don't have to know anything about Uzbekistan.
I think he's just somewhere in Canada trying to find

(34:27):
a flight, perhaps to Uzbekistan.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Me leaving, I get to do whatever I want all
the time back. This guy's got three kids. He's probably
scheduled into a corner. Uh, he's got something to fake his.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Death for freedom. Freedom, It's called freedom. But how free
are you if you still remember you've got three kids
that you left behind.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I don't know what those kids do to deserve it.
But if you're seeking freedom, you don't go to Uzbekistan. No, No,
probably not. But they apparently have wonderful food there.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh. Really, you've never been to Uzbekistan. That's a surprise.
You've been to a lot of places. Well, the year
is young. Yes, we still have Christmas in Uzbekistan. Is
that what you're looking for? They've got plov. That's the
national dish. That sounds delightful. Plov sounds like an accident.

(35:26):
Do you want to know about plov?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
It's served at weddings and festivals other special occasions.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It is a.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Nutritious rice pilaf that is made by sauteing meat, onions, carrots,
and oil or fat that adding rice or water and
spices like kumen, cornder, temrick.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
That sounds great. They can use variety of meat, lamb, beef, chicken.
I'll take all of those. Please, Yes.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Listen to man Tea Manty's a popular dish in Uzbek cuisine.
It's little dumplings with ground meat and un and various seasonings.
The rappers are generally made from simple dough of flour
and water and sometimes eggs. So just like basically like
Chinese dumplings, but Oozbek dumplings.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
That sounds delightful. I'm gonna go to Uzbekistan.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
And then Lagman. Lagman has hand pulled noodles that are
cooked in a savory broth. You know what, This stuff
all looks really good. Maybe I'm just hungry. Oh yeah,
it's noon.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Gary Shannon will continue right after this. You've been listening
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