February 25, 2025 • 27 mins
Gary and Shannon begin the show with a question. Would you rather sit next to a loud person or a dead person on a flight??? Gary and Shannon also talk about Elon Musk giving federal workers another chance and the ongoing dangers of sextortion among teen boys.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on
demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
How's it going.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I dropped off a little bit there, but but I'm back.
The fog is lifted. I sent you a picture of
the fog because you you love the fog. But the
fog is lifted, lifted in blue sky, Sonny, So that's nice.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You said it's not warm though, it's no.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's like sixty sixty degrees for the high here all week.
Let's see what it is, right, it's fifty three right now.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's not bad. It's going to be It's going to
be eighty plus here in Burbanks.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Struggle really is that the ugliness of the bee.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Does not what is b e WHOA? What was that?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But it sounds I don't want to hear more about
her personal struggle, please, I.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Don't know what that is. Yeah, eighty degrees in Burbank today.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I think tomorrow is supposed to be the warmest day
of the week here in southern California, and then it
changes significantly again. We'll go back to some potential for
rain over the weekend, even some snow in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So hey, what's worse do you think on a flight
sitting next to somebody who's really loud, really chatty, maybe
even belligerent, somebody who's just, oh my god, shut up,
or somebody who's dead, like, honest to god, dead with
a blanket over them and you're sitting next to them
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the whole flight.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I choose dead.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, it's interesting I reading that story. We'll get into
it when we do. Terror in the Sky is coming
up at ten thirty. But I thought about it. It
depends on where I'm going. I think, why, Well, if
I'm doing a business trip, like if we're flying to
Chicago to go to a convention, that's not.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Really a business trip, will go on?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, but I got a week of work ahead
of me.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay again not really work, but anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry,
Or am I going to King Kun?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Or you would rather you'd so walk me through your
your thought process.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, see, rather.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The dead person going on the business trip and the
loud guy going to Cancun or what?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean, because they're not going to harsh my buzz
if I'm going on a work trip. You're not going
to harsh my buzz by being dead sitting next to
me for the two and a half hour flight. But
if you are dead and you're going to Cancun, I'm
going to be thinking about dead people the whole time.
And like, poor families got to go to Cancun to
pick up the body, how do they get it back?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I feel like the loud, annoying, chatty guy would ruin
my buzz more than a dead person. A dead person's
just sitting there, dead, nice and quiet.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
No, you don't have to look at them. They got
a blanket over their face.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because your trajectory, you're going on vacation.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You're also up and excited about vacation, and that guy
probably wouldn't you know, you might rise to meet the loud, chatty,
drunk guy.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No you won't.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You're going to You're not going to rise to meet him.
You have nothing in common with him. He's chatting about nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, no, you're changing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
There was a guy you're saying that now, I don't
have anything in common with person.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
There was a guy on the flight when we went
to Phoenix to see the Savannah bananas, and this guy
in the row ahead of us, would not sh shut up.
And again, it's a very quick flight to Phoenix, right,
what forty five minutes something like that. Very quick flight,
no problem. But this guy was a loud talker. He
would not shut up, just talking about inane things to
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the woman next to him was who also was a
brain stem, who also had nothing interesting to say. And
he's getting off the plane and I have my noise
canceling headphones on and I'm still listening to this guy
just ramble, just will not shut up about the anyway.
So we land, we're getting off the plane and he
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says to the man next to him, because this is
the weekend before super Bowl, right, so this is the
Friday or Saturday morning before Super Bowl and super Bowl
comes up or whatever is. People are getting off the
plane and the chatty guy says to the guy who's
on the eye aisle seat the woman's in between, he says, oh,
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you're gonna watch the super Bowl. And the guy in
the aisles like, yeah, you know, I do like the Eagles,
And the chatty guy says the Eagles, Well, it's the
Redskins that are playing. The guy in the aisle goes, no,
it's it's the Eagles, And the chatty guy says, well,
are you sure about that? Because I think like he
was going to double down on something that the world
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had known for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I love that he was going to.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Double down on that and tell that other guy that
he was wrong despite not having any idea who was
playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I mean, that's the kind of guy. I would have
rather had him be dead.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Would you have killed him just to shut him up?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But I'm just saying to prove my point.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
That is funny.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
We had a guy sitting behind us at one of
the spring training games this weekend, and my friend and
I are longtime baseball fans, so it's and I've gone
with him to spring training before, and his son was
with us this time, and his fun son's not a
U baseball guy, but he's he wanted to hang out
with us. The kid sits the kid guy sits next
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to us behind us and is just constantly talking the
entire time about the game and talking about which players
are good and which players are bad. Why it is
that Cleveland had to change their name from Indians to Guardians.
Who you know, Mike Trout, is this and everything, and
he was just off and I mean, he got about
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seventy percent of it right. But your point is that
he was adamant. He was adamant about every single point
that he was making. And every once in a while,
my friend and I would look at each other and
just be like, no, got that one wrong, No got
that one right. But because because because no one else
in his group, you know, he's there with a girlfriend
and I think her parents, and it sounded like it
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was kind of the first time or one of the
first times that they'd all hung out together, and they
would turn and ask him, like, well, they can they
challenge the play when they're at second base and he's like, well,
of course they can, because they have cameras in second base.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No they don't. They don't do that in spring training.
I mean, just stuff like that. But he was very
very confident about his answers.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I pray to God that one day I'm the kind
of person who has patience to not call someone out
on that, to just sit there politely and be like
huh okay, you know, and not be like, actually, you're
wrong because of this, this and this. Well, and it
was funny, yeah, yeah, exactly same thing, exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
There was a guy sitting right in front of us,
you know, so he's two rows away, but he can
hear I mean, the guy is just loud and constantly talking,
which was annoying. But even this old guy who's sitting
in front of us Cleveland Guardians spring training ticket hold
a season ticket or whatever it is, because he's a
huge fan. But he moved to Arizona, so he's there
for every spring training game. Even he was like, you
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could hear him audibly going.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh jeez, what is this guy talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And it was great because everything that would have been me,
everybody in the in the area that kind of knew
enough about baseball to know that he was wrong about stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
We were having a blast. We're just that's more entertaining than.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh that's funny, that's funny. That's a bonding experience right there.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Hey, that's great.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
At the bottom of this hour is an interesting look
at sex torsion scams. You know, you somehow get convinced
to send somebody some nudes and then they turn around
and use them against you to try to make money
off of you.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
This is such a chilling story because you think about
teenage boys and they have no choice but to be
dialed into wanting sex.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's just nature.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's just how boys at that age are programmed into
thinking about women and the body and there. But like
the whole thing and the fact that there's scammers trying
to get these kids and then get them to kill themselves.
I mean, this isn't the first time we've done this story,
but it's something that's picking up speed and more and
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more teenage boys are being netted by this.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So I'm just eating.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh, that's very handle of you. Wow, Holy mackerel. He
should be ashamed, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So the deadline for federal workers that Elon Musk gave
them was what midnight last night, right. He told federal
workers last night via x that they did have another
chance to justify.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Their work or lose their jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Employees that multiple federal agencies had been told to disregard
that initial directive.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The White House kind of backed.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Off, and he did say that now that they will
have another chance. He said, failure to respond a second
time will result in termination. I don't know how he
would have the power to make that call to terminate
vast amounts of federal workers like that. But he has
not provided a new deadline.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
No, and he doesn't have the power to do that.
But what the And this is again I mentioned this yesterday.
This is kind of what he's learned to do from Trump,
and Trump has learned to do from Musk, which is
walk in there with a giant sledgehammer and just start
breaking stuff and see what happens. He doesn't have the
power to fire anybody, which is why he told everybody
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to see see their direct supervisors on these emails with
these five bullets. But your point was some of the
agencies have said don't worry about replying to them. For example,
Rachel Scott from ABC News says there's confusion now at
one agency, Health in Human Services.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
The Department of Health and Human Services sent competing messages,
at first telling employees to respond to the email, then
six hours later telling them not to respond, and finally
telling workers they can respond if they want to, but
warning they should assume that what you write will be
read by malign foreign actors. And Taylor responds accordingly.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And that's why things like the Department of Justice has
come out and specifically said, hey, you have any sensitive
things don't even bother replying to the email. We don't
need we don't want to risk any sort of intelligence
or classify information getting out.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And you should know that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I mean, the people who said to ignore the email
are this, like you said, the Justice Department, the FBI,
the State Department, the Pentagon, Department of Energy, Department of
Homeland Security, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
If you work for those departments, you probably have enough
cells to go ahead and say, hey, this is I'm
going to disregard this, right, and you're next in commandatorily.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, Others including the Department of Transportation, the Education Department,
Department of Commerce, National Transportation Safety Board, they all told
their workers that they should comply.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And there are some agencies who are like, hey, this
is a good idea. Maybe we do this weekly. Maybe
maybe we start asking people every week.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, And like I said yesterday, there's a lot of
companies that do that already. I mean, I was surprised
that the federal government didn't already do that, with the
amount of bureaucracy involved and the amount of redundancy and
people just getting into each other's business. Surprise that that
wasn't already in place.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So Trump hosted French President Macron at the White House yesterday.
But this did come up, this email or now I
guess a couple at least one email and then some
posts on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Is this the right way to go about doing it?
He said, it was great.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We have people that.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Don't show up to work and nobody even knows if
they work for the government. So by asking the question,
tell us what you did this week, what he's doing
is saying are you actually working?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And then if you don't.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
Answer, like you're sort of semi fired or you fired
semi fi because a lot of people are not answering
because they don't even exist. They're trying to find That's
how badly various parts of our government were run by it,
especially by this last group.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And again one of the things that Elon Musk pointed
out as to why he would do this is he
believes that there are thousands, maybe more people who are
getting checks from the government but don't actually either exist
or they're not alive, and that this is one of
the ways that people are, you know, taking advantage of
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the just the largess of a two point three million
person federal bureaucracy.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, and like we said, it's just so baseline. Send
five things you did in the past week. You know,
everyone can do that. We can all everyone listening, we
can all do that. We can say five things we've
done for work in the past week. That is an
easy thing. And to your point, he said that the
email was basically a check to see if an employee
had a pulse.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Now, yes, it's kind.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Of I understand the thinking of who the hell does
this guy think he is asking me, being my accountability boss,
all of this just because he's this billionaire, you know,
multi billionaire with tons of money, and you know, Trump's
best friend, and who the hell is he to check
up on me and what I'm doing and that's between
me and my higher ups and all of that.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I understand that. But just send the email. Just just
do that.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Have that vent session I would, but then just send
the emails. It takes you a minute because that way
you prove you're alive. No one's going to go through
it with a fine toothed comb. You know, he just said,
let's make sure people have a pulse and are capable
of applying to an email. And the vast amount of emails.
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I mean, I don't know the thousands or hundreds of
thousands of people this was sent to.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Two three million, they said, okay, like two million roughly,
because the two point three there may be some who
don't have government emails that are run through the Officer
of Personnel Management stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So who are the people going through these emails anyway?
I mean, this seems like all bluster to me.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, and that's I mean, that's part of the giant
sledgehammer that they come in with and then kind of
backfiel the information. They've said that along with the email
that goes to your direct supervisor, that some of the
emails would then be scanned by a large language model
AI to determine if in fact you wrote it yourself
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or if you know you can justify your work.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I don't know how they programmed the AI to determine
whether or not you've justified your work in these five
bullet points, but it just it does seem like, just
just do your five bullet points.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Stop, stop complaining and lighten your hair on.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Explain all you want, but send the email.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's what I would do. Complain in the email if
you like, but still but still do it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Just send it who you know?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Come on, listen, this this story.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We mentioned this, These these sextortion scams that are now
taking advantage of and targeting, specifically targeting teenage boys. I
can't think of a better I know everybody went crazy
when and overreacted when I said I had a nineteen
point phone contract with my kids. This is exactly the
kind of thing I never wanted my kids to have
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to get caught up in.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Hey dang, Shannon love this talk about the airplanes blurgerns
versus dead And I've been on an airplane where there's
been a dead person, and I've been on them where
there's been blurdering people. I'll take the blur jerr one.
The reason why is you can find a way to
laugh at them. But also the dead person doesn't just
sit there quietly. There are noises that are made, and
there are smells that are unbelievable, And I would just
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say I don't want to be near a dead person
for any amount of time on the airplane. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, you know what, I didn't think about that part
the smells and what the body does when it is expired.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Listen, it doesn't necessarily way, but it depends on those lengths.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But if you're on a four hour flight, man that
that body is going to start smelling right.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Now that football's over. I'd like to go your opinion
on some viewership stats. So season four of the Real
Housewives of New York City Tephany Frankls last season of
course you quit the first.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Time had almost two million viewers.
Speaker 9 (15:51):
The end of season thirteen with all the O g's
and fifty thousand viewers, and now the new season two
and fifty thousand view She's a fifteen OKA like your opinion, Thanks,
But okay.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
My opinion is this New York City Housewives has always
been kind of trash. It was good in its infancy,
like season four was probably peak New York City Housewives,
but the new people they got are awful, and I
just I have not I have not found anything about
them to be interesting or relatable. Maybe it's an East
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coast West coast thing, but I found the first women
of New York City to be more relatable and interesting
and a train wreck. But the latest people are just unwatchable.
I agree with the numbers. I'm kind of a loyalist.
I stick to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and of
course my favorite Real Housewives of Orange County.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But I'm sorry, Am I still talking about this?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah? I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He asked.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He did, he asked, He asked, Okay, we've talked about
this technology contract before that. I had both of our
kids sign before we gave them phones, and it was
just basic rules about you know, being courteous, put your
phone down when you're at dinner, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Well, I'm interested to see though, that was a really
long time ago. That was that was about ten years ago.
The way that phones have what is the right word
insidiously planted themselves in children and in us has grown
exponentially in ten years. Just think about yourself alone and
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how much you looked at your phone, touched your phone,
thought about your phone ten years ago to now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's a huge divide. It's a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And while I applaud your contract, I just don't know
this day and age how that is going to work.
I mean, I still applaud it, but I just don't
know anymore about how how you could do that, how
you could separate the kid from the phone so much.
I mean, I don't know. They say that teens are
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relying more on online friends than ever. They feel very
comfortable disclosing information to an online friend that they may
not tell a physical one. This is not occurring to me.
This is according to Melissa Strobel. She's a vice president
of Research and Insights at Thorn. It's a tech nonprofit organization.
It creates things like your phone contract, creates products to
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shield children from sexual abuse and online specifically.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
That next statistic is what just it should punch people
directly in the face.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
In twenty twenty three, more than one in three minors
reported having an online sexual interaction one in three.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And you don't when you're that age, you don't know
what to do with it. I mean, listen, I loved
your point in the last segment about boys in that
age range. I mean girls to a degree, but not
like boys. Boys are just hormones at that point, that's all.
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And they don't know what to do with it, and
they don't know how to control it, and they don't
know how to get sex, and they, I mean all
of these they simply don't know. And then when you
add the layer of technology to it, where it's not
just a trickle of sexual information. It's a fire hose
of sexual information or opportunity. Now it's not real opportunity,
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but it surely feels like it's an opportunity to some
of these kids.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They say financial sex stortion because this does have.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
A financial element.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
This is not just cruel for being the sake of
cruel and trying to net kids for the sake of
embarrassing them. It's about getting money out of this, like
all good cruks want to do, it's to extort people
using their emotions. Unfortunate, all of this interaction online with
kids and adults makes it that much easier. Financial sex
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stortion is the fastest growing cybercrime targeting children in America.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
It has been around.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Probably for decades, but in years past people didn't have
the terminology or the resources to report it. Now it
is being reported, and in the years since the pandemic,
it has exploded, because what did the pandemic do? It
put us in our rooms, if her kids in their
rooms and on their screens, and we can talk to
we're blue in the face about how detrimental that was
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and how detrimental.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It will be for their probably entire lives.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But this is one of the things that was able
to grow in that environment.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, I mean your point.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
It cemented the necessity of having the device around all
the time.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It made it okay.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It told your kids it's okay to go in your
room and be on your screens all day because that's
where you're learning. Do you think they were learning the
whole time? Probably not, listen. I'm not a parent, so
I don't know. To me, it looks like it takes
more energy than I'll ever have in my entire life
all put together, for one day of being a parent.
And I get how it would be easier for me
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to know that my kid is in their room and
they're learning, and they're doing all their zoom classes and
whatever and cool, I won't even think about it, But
what else is going on in there? And it's not
parents' fault, you know, all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But it's like we all.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Said as a society to kids, it's okay to be
on your screens for freaking twelve hours a day because
that's the only way you're going to learn.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And when you're giving them okay.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's like when we were growing up playing video games,
where like we knew that it was fun, we felt
like maybe there might be something wrong with it, Like
after an hour of playing Super Mario Brothers, I kind
of felt like I was being a little too decatent,
Like is there something wrong with me watching the screen
for so long? Probably like you had that ingrained in you.
We said it was okay for them to just look
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at screens for that long.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, and it doesn't it's you can't go back on that.
That's hard to pull them away once you've took.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's an addiction and now it has Now it has roots.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We've been talking about this, this big headline that came
out today from USA today regarding nude photo scams that
target these teenage boys, and there repairs to be.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A script like it's a lot of it's from Nigeria,
kind of like the new version of the Prints that
needs your mom's.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Help, right, and it's it starts out innocently enough, where
you know, you get a message from somebody that says
something like, hey, I found your page through some friends
and we should we should hang out, we should talk
chat whatever it is, and then the bad person, boy, girl, whatever,
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the predator will then drive the conversation to sex pretty quickly,
and then in a lot of cases, just send unsolicited nudes.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Again, for a boy, most of the time they're trying
to entice him with naked pictures of a young girl.
So then they entice the boy. Hey, send me some
nudes of yourself once they.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Here's the thing, boys, women aren't built the same way
you are men.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Boys are more visual people.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Right, Teenage girls are not going to be clamoring to
see pictures of you naked.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's never going to be a thing. It's never going
to be a real thing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, but again, they're playing to the boy's fantasy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I know, but I'm just saying that's not a thing. Well,
women are dying to see what your penis looks. It's
just not a thing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Let me tell you. It's hard to turn off that fantasy.
That's I know.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But that's why I'm just trying to get it out
there as a PSA.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The brain works very differently.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
As much as you think that you want to see
a girl, that you want to see a girl naked
or her parts or what have you. That is that
is one hundred percent accurate in the way your brain works.
If a girl is clamoring to see you, there should
be a red flag that goes up in your head.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Well, that's when the blackmail starts, because the scammers will say,
now I've got everything I need to blackmail you.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I've got everything to ruin your life.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I have all of the screenshots of your followers and
the tags everybody who comments on your post, your WhatsApp
contact list, whatever it is, and I'm going to send
these images to them, or you're going to send me money,
one of the two things that happens. But again, the
things to watch out for is very very First of all,
not if it goes to sex right away, it's too
(24:38):
good to be true.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But again to.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Your point, how do you tell a teenage boy that
that's the fantasy that's like, oh my god, it went
to sex right away, Yes, this is the mecca.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They also they call it a romance scam on steroids
that within an hour these images are exchanged and within
an hour they're demanding mone I mean the whole thing
from start to finish, from is this really happening to
this is happening to you? Give me money or else
I tell your parents and I share this with your
with your sister and your brother, all happens.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Within an hour, we got a comment from somebody.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Gary and Shannon, my twenty five year old son got
caught up in this scam. The woman in quotes sent
a picture of herself. He of course reciprocated. The next
thing I know, he's calling me, freaking out that this
person was going to spread his photos through all of
his WhatsApp contacts. I reassured him that probably this was
a scam and happening to other people. Of course, nothing
(25:36):
other came out of it, but it was a great
lesson for him to learn, and he never will do
it again.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, it's a hard lesson to learn. Thankfully, this guy
was able to get away and didn't have all these
images out there. There are tools now that exist to
help kind of claw back some of those images from
the internet, but it is a hard, hard job to
get all of them.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I'm glad that she called in and said that he
was twenty five, because I was thinking about my my
comment about girl girls do not want to see pictures
of men naked or boys naked. I can definitely attest
to that. I think probably I would have said before
I heard her call and her comment that women about
twenty five probably, I think that's a safe age to
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say they might want to start seeing it. You know,
but girls who are in high school they want nothing
to they don't want to know what's what's going on
there for the most part ever, ever, you know what
I mean, Like, that's.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Just not it's just not something that I don't know
what raised.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like you said, we are brains.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
You thought in high school that girls wanted to see
you naked?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, no, that's not That's not what I'm saying. I'm
just I don't thinking. Okay, if you did thought to it.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
It's just I'm just saying they did not.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I didn't see any I don't know any girls who
snuck looks at Playgirl magazine.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Right, exactly my point? Yeah, exact, Thank you Bingo.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
All right, the Wildfire Reacher.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I was at.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Least thirty until I got into Playgirl, and then after
that Watch Out Look.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh my god, now I got like sixteen subscriptions.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the Wildfire Recovery costs and whether or not we're
gonna be ready for the Olympics that's coming up next.
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
How's it going.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I dropped off a little bit there, but but I'm back.
The fog is lifted. I sent you a picture of
the fog because you you love the fog. But the
fog is lifted, lifted in blue sky, Sonny, So that's nice.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You said it's not warm though, it's no.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
It's like sixty sixty degrees for the high here all week.
Let's see what it is, right, it's fifty three right now.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It's not bad. It's going to be It's going to
be eighty plus here in Burbanks.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Struggle really is that the ugliness of the bee.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Does not what is b e WHOA? What was that?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But it sounds I don't want to hear more about
her personal struggle, please, I.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Don't know what that is. Yeah, eighty degrees in Burbank today.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I think tomorrow is supposed to be the warmest day
of the week here in southern California, and then it
changes significantly again. We'll go back to some potential for
rain over the weekend, even some snow in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So hey, what's worse do you think on a flight
sitting next to somebody who's really loud, really chatty, maybe
even belligerent, somebody who's just, oh my god, shut up,
or somebody who's dead, like, honest to god, dead with
a blanket over them and you're sitting next to them
(01:19):
the whole flight.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I choose dead.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Well, it's interesting I reading that story. We'll get into
it when we do. Terror in the Sky is coming
up at ten thirty. But I thought about it. It
depends on where I'm going. I think, why, Well, if
I'm doing a business trip, like if we're flying to
Chicago to go to a convention, that's not.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Really a business trip, will go on?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, but I got a week of work ahead
of me.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay again not really work, but anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry,
Or am I going to King Kun?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Or you would rather you'd so walk me through your
your thought process.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, see, rather.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The dead person going on the business trip and the
loud guy going to Cancun or what?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean, because they're not going to harsh my buzz
if I'm going on a work trip. You're not going
to harsh my buzz by being dead sitting next to
me for the two and a half hour flight. But
if you are dead and you're going to Cancun, I'm
going to be thinking about dead people the whole time.
And like, poor families got to go to Cancun to
pick up the body, how do they get it back?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I feel like the loud, annoying, chatty guy would ruin
my buzz more than a dead person. A dead person's
just sitting there, dead, nice and quiet.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
No, you don't have to look at them. They got
a blanket over their face.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Because your trajectory, you're going on vacation.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
You're also up and excited about vacation, and that guy
probably wouldn't you know, you might rise to meet the loud, chatty,
drunk guy.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
No you won't.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
You're going to You're not going to rise to meet him.
You have nothing in common with him. He's chatting about nothing.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, no, you're changing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
There was a guy you're saying that now, I don't
have anything in common with person.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
There was a guy on the flight when we went
to Phoenix to see the Savannah bananas, and this guy
in the row ahead of us, would not sh shut up.
And again, it's a very quick flight to Phoenix, right,
what forty five minutes something like that. Very quick flight,
no problem. But this guy was a loud talker. He
would not shut up, just talking about inane things to
(03:20):
the woman next to him was who also was a
brain stem, who also had nothing interesting to say. And
he's getting off the plane and I have my noise
canceling headphones on and I'm still listening to this guy
just ramble, just will not shut up about the anyway.
So we land, we're getting off the plane and he
(03:42):
says to the man next to him, because this is
the weekend before super Bowl, right, so this is the
Friday or Saturday morning before Super Bowl and super Bowl
comes up or whatever is. People are getting off the
plane and the chatty guy says to the guy who's
on the eye aisle seat the woman's in between, he says, oh,
(04:03):
you're gonna watch the super Bowl. And the guy in
the aisles like, yeah, you know, I do like the Eagles,
And the chatty guy says the Eagles, Well, it's the
Redskins that are playing. The guy in the aisle goes, no,
it's it's the Eagles, And the chatty guy says, well,
are you sure about that? Because I think like he
was going to double down on something that the world
(04:23):
had known for two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I love that he was going to.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Double down on that and tell that other guy that
he was wrong despite not having any idea who was
playing in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I mean, that's the kind of guy. I would have
rather had him be dead.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Would you have killed him just to shut him up?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But I'm just saying to prove my point.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
That is funny.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
We had a guy sitting behind us at one of
the spring training games this weekend, and my friend and
I are longtime baseball fans, so it's and I've gone
with him to spring training before, and his son was
with us this time, and his fun son's not a
U baseball guy, but he's he wanted to hang out
with us. The kid sits the kid guy sits next
(05:06):
to us behind us and is just constantly talking the
entire time about the game and talking about which players
are good and which players are bad. Why it is
that Cleveland had to change their name from Indians to Guardians.
Who you know, Mike Trout, is this and everything, and
he was just off and I mean, he got about
(05:26):
seventy percent of it right. But your point is that
he was adamant. He was adamant about every single point
that he was making. And every once in a while,
my friend and I would look at each other and
just be like, no, got that one wrong, No got
that one right. But because because because no one else
in his group, you know, he's there with a girlfriend
and I think her parents, and it sounded like it
(05:47):
was kind of the first time or one of the
first times that they'd all hung out together, and they
would turn and ask him, like, well, they can they
challenge the play when they're at second base and he's like, well,
of course they can, because they have cameras in second base.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No they don't. They don't do that in spring training.
I mean, just stuff like that. But he was very
very confident about his answers.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I pray to God that one day I'm the kind
of person who has patience to not call someone out
on that, to just sit there politely and be like
huh okay, you know, and not be like, actually, you're
wrong because of this, this and this. Well, and it
was funny, yeah, yeah, exactly same thing, exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
There was a guy sitting right in front of us,
you know, so he's two rows away, but he can
hear I mean, the guy is just loud and constantly talking,
which was annoying. But even this old guy who's sitting
in front of us Cleveland Guardians spring training ticket hold
a season ticket or whatever it is, because he's a
huge fan. But he moved to Arizona, so he's there
for every spring training game. Even he was like, you
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could hear him audibly going.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh jeez, what is this guy talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And it was great because everything that would have been me,
everybody in the in the area that kind of knew
enough about baseball to know that he was wrong about stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
We were having a blast. We're just that's more entertaining than.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh that's funny, that's funny. That's a bonding experience right there.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Hey, that's great.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
At the bottom of this hour is an interesting look
at sex torsion scams. You know, you somehow get convinced
to send somebody some nudes and then they turn around
and use them against you to try to make money
off of you.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
This is such a chilling story because you think about
teenage boys and they have no choice but to be
dialed into wanting sex.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's just nature.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
That's just how boys at that age are programmed into
thinking about women and the body and there. But like
the whole thing and the fact that there's scammers trying
to get these kids and then get them to kill themselves.
I mean, this isn't the first time we've done this story,
but it's something that's picking up speed and more and
(07:54):
more teenage boys are being netted by this.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
So I'm just eating.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh, that's very handle of you. Wow, Holy mackerel. He
should be ashamed, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
So the deadline for federal workers that Elon Musk gave
them was what midnight last night, right. He told federal
workers last night via x that they did have another
chance to justify.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Their work or lose their jobs.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Employees that multiple federal agencies had been told to disregard
that initial directive.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The White House kind of backed.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Off, and he did say that now that they will
have another chance. He said, failure to respond a second
time will result in termination. I don't know how he
would have the power to make that call to terminate
vast amounts of federal workers like that. But he has
not provided a new deadline.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
No, and he doesn't have the power to do that.
But what the And this is again I mentioned this yesterday.
This is kind of what he's learned to do from Trump,
and Trump has learned to do from Musk, which is
walk in there with a giant sledgehammer and just start
breaking stuff and see what happens. He doesn't have the
power to fire anybody, which is why he told everybody
(09:12):
to see see their direct supervisors on these emails with
these five bullets. But your point was some of the
agencies have said don't worry about replying to them. For example,
Rachel Scott from ABC News says there's confusion now at
one agency, Health in Human Services.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
The Department of Health and Human Services sent competing messages,
at first telling employees to respond to the email, then
six hours later telling them not to respond, and finally
telling workers they can respond if they want to, but
warning they should assume that what you write will be
read by malign foreign actors. And Taylor responds accordingly.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And that's why things like the Department of Justice has
come out and specifically said, hey, you have any sensitive
things don't even bother replying to the email. We don't
need we don't want to risk any sort of intelligence
or classify information getting out.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
And you should know that.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I mean, the people who said to ignore the email
are this, like you said, the Justice Department, the FBI,
the State Department, the Pentagon, Department of Energy, Department of
Homeland Security, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
If you work for those departments, you probably have enough
cells to go ahead and say, hey, this is I'm
going to disregard this, right, and you're next in commandatorily.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yes, Others including the Department of Transportation, the Education Department,
Department of Commerce, National Transportation Safety Board, they all told
their workers that they should comply.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
And there are some agencies who are like, hey, this
is a good idea. Maybe we do this weekly. Maybe
maybe we start asking people every week.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, And like I said yesterday, there's a lot of
companies that do that already. I mean, I was surprised
that the federal government didn't already do that, with the
amount of bureaucracy involved and the amount of redundancy and
people just getting into each other's business. Surprise that that
wasn't already in place.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So Trump hosted French President Macron at the White House yesterday.
But this did come up, this email or now I
guess a couple at least one email and then some
posts on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Is this the right way to go about doing it?
He said, it was great.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
We have people that.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Don't show up to work and nobody even knows if
they work for the government. So by asking the question,
tell us what you did this week, what he's doing
is saying are you actually working?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And then if you don't.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
Answer, like you're sort of semi fired or you fired
semi fi because a lot of people are not answering
because they don't even exist. They're trying to find That's
how badly various parts of our government were run by it,
especially by this last group.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And again one of the things that Elon Musk pointed
out as to why he would do this is he
believes that there are thousands, maybe more people who are
getting checks from the government but don't actually either exist
or they're not alive, and that this is one of
the ways that people are, you know, taking advantage of
(12:05):
the just the largess of a two point three million
person federal bureaucracy.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Well, and like we said, it's just so baseline. Send
five things you did in the past week. You know,
everyone can do that. We can all everyone listening, we
can all do that. We can say five things we've
done for work in the past week. That is an
easy thing. And to your point, he said that the
email was basically a check to see if an employee
had a pulse.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Now, yes, it's kind.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Of I understand the thinking of who the hell does
this guy think he is asking me, being my accountability boss,
all of this just because he's this billionaire, you know,
multi billionaire with tons of money, and you know, Trump's
best friend, and who the hell is he to check
up on me and what I'm doing and that's between
me and my higher ups and all of that.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I understand that. But just send the email. Just just
do that.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Have that vent session I would, but then just send
the emails. It takes you a minute because that way
you prove you're alive. No one's going to go through
it with a fine toothed comb. You know, he just said,
let's make sure people have a pulse and are capable
of applying to an email. And the vast amount of emails.
(13:16):
I mean, I don't know the thousands or hundreds of
thousands of people this was sent to.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Two three million, they said, okay, like two million roughly,
because the two point three there may be some who
don't have government emails that are run through the Officer
of Personnel Management stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
So who are the people going through these emails anyway?
I mean, this seems like all bluster to me.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well, and that's I mean, that's part of the giant
sledgehammer that they come in with and then kind of
backfiel the information. They've said that along with the email
that goes to your direct supervisor, that some of the
emails would then be scanned by a large language model
AI to determine if in fact you wrote it yourself
(13:59):
or if you know you can justify your work.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Now.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
I don't know how they programmed the AI to determine
whether or not you've justified your work in these five
bullet points, but it just it does seem like, just
just do your five bullet points.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Stop, stop complaining and lighten your hair on.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Explain all you want, but send the email.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That's what I would do. Complain in the email if
you like, but still but still do it.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Just send it who you know?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Come on, listen, this this story.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
We mentioned this, These these sextortion scams that are now
taking advantage of and targeting, specifically targeting teenage boys. I
can't think of a better I know everybody went crazy
when and overreacted when I said I had a nineteen
point phone contract with my kids. This is exactly the
kind of thing I never wanted my kids to have
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to get caught up in.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Hey dang, Shannon love this talk about the airplanes blurgerns
versus dead And I've been on an airplane where there's
been a dead person, and I've been on them where
there's been blurdering people. I'll take the blur jerr one.
The reason why is you can find a way to
laugh at them. But also the dead person doesn't just
sit there quietly. There are noises that are made, and
there are smells that are unbelievable, And I would just
(15:12):
say I don't want to be near a dead person
for any amount of time on the airplane. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, you know what, I didn't think about that part
the smells and what the body does when it is expired.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Listen, it doesn't necessarily way, but it depends on those lengths.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
But if you're on a four hour flight, man that
that body is going to start smelling right.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Now that football's over. I'd like to go your opinion
on some viewership stats. So season four of the Real
Housewives of New York City Tephany Frankls last season of
course you quit the first.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Time had almost two million viewers.
Speaker 9 (15:51):
The end of season thirteen with all the O g's
and fifty thousand viewers, and now the new season two
and fifty thousand view She's a fifteen OKA like your opinion, Thanks,
But okay.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
My opinion is this New York City Housewives has always
been kind of trash. It was good in its infancy,
like season four was probably peak New York City Housewives,
but the new people they got are awful, and I
just I have not I have not found anything about
them to be interesting or relatable. Maybe it's an East
(16:24):
coast West coast thing, but I found the first women
of New York City to be more relatable and interesting
and a train wreck. But the latest people are just unwatchable.
I agree with the numbers. I'm kind of a loyalist.
I stick to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and of
course my favorite Real Housewives of Orange County.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
But I'm sorry, Am I still talking about this?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah? I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
He asked.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
He did, he asked, He asked, Okay, we've talked about
this technology contract before that. I had both of our
kids sign before we gave them phones, and it was
just basic rules about you know, being courteous, put your
phone down when you're at dinner, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Well, I'm interested to see though, that was a really
long time ago. That was that was about ten years ago.
The way that phones have what is the right word
insidiously planted themselves in children and in us has grown
exponentially in ten years. Just think about yourself alone and
(17:37):
how much you looked at your phone, touched your phone,
thought about your phone ten years ago to now.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's a huge divide. It's a huge difference.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And while I applaud your contract, I just don't know
this day and age how that is going to work.
I mean, I still applaud it, but I just don't
know anymore about how how you could do that, how
you could separate the kid from the phone so much.
I mean, I don't know. They say that teens are
(18:06):
relying more on online friends than ever. They feel very
comfortable disclosing information to an online friend that they may
not tell a physical one. This is not occurring to me.
This is according to Melissa Strobel. She's a vice president
of Research and Insights at Thorn. It's a tech nonprofit organization.
It creates things like your phone contract, creates products to
(18:28):
shield children from sexual abuse and online specifically.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
That next statistic is what just it should punch people
directly in the face.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
In twenty twenty three, more than one in three minors
reported having an online sexual interaction one in three.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And you don't when you're that age, you don't know
what to do with it. I mean, listen, I loved
your point in the last segment about boys in that
age range. I mean girls to a degree, but not
like boys. Boys are just hormones at that point, that's all.
(19:11):
And they don't know what to do with it, and
they don't know how to control it, and they don't
know how to get sex, and they, I mean all
of these they simply don't know. And then when you
add the layer of technology to it, where it's not
just a trickle of sexual information. It's a fire hose
of sexual information or opportunity. Now it's not real opportunity,
(19:35):
but it surely feels like it's an opportunity to some
of these kids.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
They say financial sex stortion because this does have.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
A financial element.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
This is not just cruel for being the sake of
cruel and trying to net kids for the sake of
embarrassing them. It's about getting money out of this, like
all good cruks want to do, it's to extort people
using their emotions. Unfortunate, all of this interaction online with
kids and adults makes it that much easier. Financial sex
(20:05):
stortion is the fastest growing cybercrime targeting children in America.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
It has been around.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Probably for decades, but in years past people didn't have
the terminology or the resources to report it. Now it
is being reported, and in the years since the pandemic,
it has exploded, because what did the pandemic do? It
put us in our rooms, if her kids in their
rooms and on their screens, and we can talk to
we're blue in the face about how detrimental that was
(20:34):
and how detrimental.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
It will be for their probably entire lives.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
But this is one of the things that was able
to grow in that environment.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Well, I mean your point.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
It cemented the necessity of having the device around all
the time.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It made it okay.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It told your kids it's okay to go in your
room and be on your screens all day because that's
where you're learning. Do you think they were learning the
whole time? Probably not, listen. I'm not a parent, so
I don't know. To me, it looks like it takes
more energy than I'll ever have in my entire life
all put together, for one day of being a parent.
And I get how it would be easier for me
(21:12):
to know that my kid is in their room and
they're learning, and they're doing all their zoom classes and
whatever and cool, I won't even think about it, But
what else is going on in there? And it's not
parents' fault, you know, all the time.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But it's like we all.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Said as a society to kids, it's okay to be
on your screens for freaking twelve hours a day because
that's the only way you're going to learn.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And when you're giving them okay.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
It's like when we were growing up playing video games,
where like we knew that it was fun, we felt
like maybe there might be something wrong with it, Like
after an hour of playing Super Mario Brothers, I kind
of felt like I was being a little too decatent,
Like is there something wrong with me watching the screen
for so long? Probably like you had that ingrained in you.
We said it was okay for them to just look
(21:59):
at screens for that long.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, and it doesn't it's you can't go back on that.
That's hard to pull them away once you've took.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's an addiction and now it has Now it has roots.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
We've been talking about this, this big headline that came
out today from USA today regarding nude photo scams that
target these teenage boys, and there repairs to be.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
A script like it's a lot of it's from Nigeria,
kind of like the new version of the Prints that
needs your mom's.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Help, right, and it's it starts out innocently enough, where
you know, you get a message from somebody that says
something like, hey, I found your page through some friends
and we should we should hang out, we should talk
chat whatever it is, and then the bad person, boy, girl, whatever,
(22:48):
the predator will then drive the conversation to sex pretty quickly,
and then in a lot of cases, just send unsolicited nudes.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Again, for a boy, most of the time they're trying
to entice him with naked pictures of a young girl.
So then they entice the boy. Hey, send me some
nudes of yourself once they.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Here's the thing, boys, women aren't built the same way
you are men.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Boys are more visual people.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Right, Teenage girls are not going to be clamoring to
see pictures of you naked.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
That's never going to be a thing. It's never going
to be a real thing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, but again, they're playing to the boy's fantasy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I know, but I'm just saying that's not a thing. Well,
women are dying to see what your penis looks. It's
just not a thing.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Let me tell you. It's hard to turn off that fantasy.
That's I know.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But that's why I'm just trying to get it out
there as a PSA.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, it doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The brain works very differently.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
As much as you think that you want to see
a girl, that you want to see a girl naked
or her parts or what have you. That is that
is one hundred percent accurate in the way your brain works.
If a girl is clamoring to see you, there should
be a red flag that goes up in your head.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Well, that's when the blackmail starts, because the scammers will say,
now I've got everything I need to blackmail you.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I've got everything to ruin your life.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I have all of the screenshots of your followers and
the tags everybody who comments on your post, your WhatsApp
contact list, whatever it is, and I'm going to send
these images to them, or you're going to send me money,
one of the two things that happens. But again, the
things to watch out for is very very First of all,
not if it goes to sex right away, it's too
(24:38):
good to be true.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But again to.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Your point, how do you tell a teenage boy that
that's the fantasy that's like, oh my god, it went
to sex right away, Yes, this is the mecca.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They also they call it a romance scam on steroids
that within an hour these images are exchanged and within
an hour they're demanding mone I mean the whole thing
from start to finish, from is this really happening to
this is happening to you? Give me money or else
I tell your parents and I share this with your
with your sister and your brother, all happens.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Within an hour, we got a comment from somebody.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Hi.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Gary and Shannon, my twenty five year old son got
caught up in this scam. The woman in quotes sent
a picture of herself. He of course reciprocated. The next
thing I know, he's calling me, freaking out that this
person was going to spread his photos through all of
his WhatsApp contacts. I reassured him that probably this was
a scam and happening to other people. Of course, nothing
(25:36):
other came out of it, but it was a great
lesson for him to learn, and he never will do
it again.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, it's a hard lesson to learn. Thankfully, this guy
was able to get away and didn't have all these
images out there. There are tools now that exist to
help kind of claw back some of those images from
the internet, but it is a hard, hard job to
get all of them.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I'm glad that she called in and said that he
was twenty five, because I was thinking about my my
comment about girl girls do not want to see pictures
of men naked or boys naked. I can definitely attest
to that. I think probably I would have said before
I heard her call and her comment that women about
twenty five probably, I think that's a safe age to
(26:19):
say they might want to start seeing it. You know,
but girls who are in high school they want nothing
to they don't want to know what's what's going on
there for the most part ever, ever, you know what
I mean, Like, that's.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Just not it's just not something that I don't know
what raised.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like you said, we are brains.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
You thought in high school that girls wanted to see
you naked?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, no, no, that's not That's not what I'm saying. I'm
just I don't thinking. Okay, if you did thought to it.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
It's just I'm just saying they did not.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
I didn't see any I don't know any girls who
snuck looks at Playgirl magazine.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Right, exactly my point? Yeah, exact, Thank you Bingo.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
All right, the Wildfire Reacher.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
I was at.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Least thirty until I got into Playgirl, and then after
that Watch Out Look.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Oh my god, now I got like sixteen subscriptions.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the Wildfire Recovery costs and whether or not we're
gonna be ready for the Olympics that's coming up next.
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