April 4, 2025 • 31 mins
How do we live with so much risk—from global disasters to deeply personal decisions? We explore the psychology of risk, and how embracing it (or avoiding it) shapes our lives more than we realize.
Then: move over, late bloomers. An endangered tortoise, believed to be 97 years old, just became a first-time mom—making conservation history and proving it’s never too late to start something new.
And finally, KFI’s Debra Mark and Shannon discuss the podcast-turned-TV-series Dying for Sex, the powerful, provocative, and surprisingly funny true story of a woman diagnosed with terminal cancer who leaves her marriage and goes on a wild, sex-fueled journey of self-discovery.
Then: move over, late bloomers. An endangered tortoise, believed to be 97 years old, just became a first-time mom—making conservation history and proving it’s never too late to start something new.
And finally, KFI’s Debra Mark and Shannon discuss the podcast-turned-TV-series Dying for Sex, the powerful, provocative, and surprisingly funny true story of a woman diagnosed with terminal cancer who leaves her marriage and goes on a wild, sex-fueled journey of self-discovery.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
A M six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on
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learned Friday on the Gary and Shannon Show is where
you use that talkback feature.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You know, Gary runs this thing.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's on his computer, so when he's gone, I don't
use it, but I miss hearing from you guys.
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I miss hearing the talkback.
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So anyway, we will be taking those and Keana will
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and Shannon Show.
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and let us know.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It's time for swamp watch.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a
liar and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Yeah,
we got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The other side never quit.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So what you're doing, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So now now you train the swamp, I can imagine
and what can be and be unburdened by what has
been You know, Mervans have always been coming at president.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
They're not stupid.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Whether people voted for you. With naswap watch, they're all
counter on, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We'll just get it out of the way. Taking a
look at the Dow right now, the Dow is down
fifteen sixty nine, Nasdaq down about four point three percent,
down about seven to ten. There. Stock markets worldwide continue
to correne even today, even lower today, I should say,
after China has struck back against President Trump's tariffs in
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this escalating trade war. There was a better than expected
report on the US job market, usually the economic highlight
of every month. That was not enough to stop this slide.
And it doesn't hurt less knowing that it was coming,
but we did know what was coming. So far, there
are few, if any winners when you look at the
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markets from this trade war. European stocks saw some of
the day's biggest losses. The price of crude oil tumbled
to its lowest level in four years since twenty twenty one. Copper,
which is one of the building blocks for economic growth,
Copper supply prices slide as well.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
When you talk about the.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Global economy weakening, pretty much everything is hit. On Friday
evening in Beijing, China set out to announce a series
of rapid fire policy announcements, including thirty four percent across
the board tariffs. China's basically saying, we have no intention
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of backing down. We have no intention of coming to
the table and playing with you on the art of
a deal. We will see who has more of a
stomach for hardball as we continue, because like I said earlier,
I don't know how much patience President Trump has to
be unpopular for a long period of time, and that's
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what's going to happen, because it's not just the stock
market and the intangibles.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's going to be the tangibles.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's going to be the things in the grocery store
that you're touching and feeling when you hit the cash register.
So Trump's plan for thirty four percent tariffs on goods
from China has been matched with a thirty four percent
tariff on imports from the US. China's Ministry of Commerce
as it was adding eleven American companies to its list
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of unreliable entities, which means that they are pretty much
barred from doing business in China or with Chinese companies.
This ministry imposed a licensing system to restrict exports of
seven rare earth elements. And that's what I kept reading
this morning, rare earth elements. What the hell is that?
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I feel like I'm in some sort of crystal shop.
Tell me my tarot reading. But no, these things go
into everything from batteries, car systems, car computer systems, computer chips,
electric cars, smart bombs. All of these things are going
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to be hit. China's General Administration of Customs that it
would halt chicken imports from five of America's biggest exporters
of AG commodities. So it is hitting people across the board,
and just to touch on the ag AG industry, when
it comes to small businesses, people are getting out and talking.
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Reporters are getting out and talking to people that run
small businesses.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Wendy bro is one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wendy is owner of dry Ridge Farm in Marshall, North Carolina,
and she says that these tariffs are like pouring salt
in a wound that's now just beginning to heal.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We've kind of talked about that.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
From a conceptualized level of we're just getting out of
this inflation and that Trump campaign so hard to fix
with the waning days of the Bided administration, just keeping
us deep into that inflation mess. This is now as
we try to crawl out of that. This is like
throwing a weight on top of it. Like Wendy said,
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there was a small business meeting, a small business owner meeting,
I should say, this week, and Wendy says they talked
about the fact that tariffs are increased the cost of
everything on the farm, from fertilizer and feed to construction
materials and tractors, hitting this farming community there in Marshall
while it is recovering not only from inflation and COVID
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and all of that, but also the crop losses after
Hurricane Helene. So they've had uncertainty for a long time
and we're hoping and praying that with this new administration
they'd have some solid ground quite literally to stand on
and bounce back when it comes to their business there
on the farm. But she says that the retaliatory tariffs
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are going to affect their largest expense, which is the
animal feed. So again we're just gonna have to wait
and see. I don't see the good thing about President
Trump's personality from what I've been able to glean over
the years that we've been covering him, are that he
will take a small victory and turn it into a
large one. So if he can find a small victory
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in this tariff policy, if the Chinas of the world
do not come to the table and rework the ways
that many believe that America is being screwed over, if
China refuses to come to that art of the deal table,
we're gonna have to find a small victory somewhere and
run with it to get out of this mess.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
If it ends up.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Where the other countries cave and we end up getting
better long term business deals with other countries when it
comes to the global supply chain, excellent. But in the meantime,
holy hell, things are going to get dark, all right?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, I saw the story and I thought of Deborah, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Keana sent it to me. No, there's not sex. People
are going to get the really really.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Odd I know, but I mean, you're right, we should
explain more often. We don't explain the inside jokes enough.
Deborah and I we found that we and this is
years ago now probably that we both enjoy shows that
have a little bit of sex and them.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yes, we like this space.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This is none.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This is all legal. It's all legal sex. It's all
like PG. Thirteen type stuff. But we do like those shows,
whether it's you know, The Gilded Age or sex Life
on Netflix or whatever. They're entertaining. They're fun, they're popcorn shows.
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It makes us just not think about it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's in a scape exactly why we watched that, And
that's exactly why this story peaked my interest because here's
the headline, plane crashes, toxic spatulas, crime, How to think
about risk in the world, because you know how you
feel about earthquake stebra, Yes, and there's just constantly this
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barrage of bad news and things to be worried about.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So this article was all about.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It was in Vox, I believe, how to deal with
life's inevitable risks, how to just move past it, just
to accept it and then continue on with your day.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We'll get into it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Fascinating story I'm just diving into here in Vox. How
to live with life's inevitable risks. So many great points
to get to in this that they do get to.
I guess I should say the opening line is the
world is trying to kill you. This much is true.
So they really set the table correctly. There they go
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to talk about how plane crashes a nearly weekly basis forever. Chemicals,
microplastics are in our water, They're in our beauty products,
they're in our clothing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They're even in our brains. Remember that story from.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
A few weeks ago about plastics in our brains. You're
kitchen utensils poisoning you. Maybe your food is as well.
There was a lot of no wonder, anxiety is off
the hook, right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
No wonder.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
If you're constantly being bombarded with all of this, of
course you're going to think the world is a fundamentally
dangerous place. In twenty twenty three, there was a Gallop
poll that said forty percent of Americans had they felt
unsafe walking home alone at night, the highest rate since
nineteen ninety three. Now, what was going on in nineteen
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ninety three. I know I wasn't paying attention. I was
a kid, But I'm if I if my memory serves
correctly in any sort of reading I've ever done. That
was when crime rates were through the roof right late eighties,
early nineties. Violent crime was crazy, So that's notable. It's
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the highest rate now since nineteen ninety three. And nineteen
ninety three we didn't even really, we weren't bombarded with
knowing about crime rates because we didn't have what we
may have had. Twenty four hour new CNN may have
been a thing. It was a thing, but we weren't
bombarded with news in our pockets, in our hands, like
in our phones, the way we are now.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That has led us to believe that danger is everywhere,
they say.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Generations ago, risks were largely evaluated by the scientific and
cultural knowledge of the day. Prior to the Industrial Revolution,
some of the greatest risks came from natural causes.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Fires that would.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Destroy homes in the middle of the night in cities,
you know, like the Great Fire, the Chicago Fire, whatever
these fires you learn about in the history books, right,
Infectious diseases, the plague, black death, those things, unpredictable weather conditions,
abs in any kind of data or expert guidance. People
then relied largely on their own experience and their experiences
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of or the experiences of others that they had heard
about to kind of gauge risk. Like if your cousin
went on a transcontinental ocean voyage and.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Never returned, you'd say, probably not for me. You die
when you do that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They say that these days, we are staying well informed
about all the bad and scary things happening the world
over data statistics in no short supply, and the scientists
will tell you we're not good at interpreting this information.
We are reactionary. We're not scientists. We're not going to
sit down and be like, hm, now what does this
mean and.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Pour over it.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No, we're going to react and say, oh, hell, my
home's gonna crumble in the night. Dirk Wolf is a
senior research scientist at the Max Plant Institute for Human Development,
and he says the human brain is ill equipped to
process large numbers. While a one in a million chance
of developing a rare cancer is hard for our brains
to digest. People think it's more likely than it really
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is because we're human and that's how we take numbers
like that in. He says, the same goes for evaluating
risk based on our own experiences. And he says it's
just objectively often wrong because we haven't made enough experiences
to see some of the bad things that could happen
if all your car rides occurred without incident. You may
incorrectly believe driving carries less risk than air travel based
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purely on your own history. So you know, how many
car crashes have you and your friends been in? How
many airplane crashes have you and your friend's been in.
It's that whole thing. It's like when you're flying and
I have it, and I know it's in an irrational
fear sometimes of flying. And I know it's irrational because
I've been in more car accidents than I have ever
in a plane accident. I guess part of the irrational
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fear what feeds it is that plane crashes you don't
survives often she fors survived car crushes. Right, It's like,
if the plane's going down, it's probably going to be
a I'm not helping this story, I realize that, he says,
and the senior research as scientists and the Max Planck
Institute Dirk Wolf says the most accurate assessment of risk
is to marry experience with data and expert driven advice,
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but that our human miscalculations continually threaten that delicate balance,
that we misjudge the risk for rare and extreme events.
We choose to gamble despite the low likelihood of winning,
opt out of swimming in the ocean due to the
potential of a shark attack. Apparently, we're running around with
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a lot of irrational fears. The more in control you feel,
they say, the more comfortable you are with risk. There
was a book called how Risky is It Really? Why
our fears don't always match the facts. The author, David
Ropeak says, the more in control you feel, the more
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comfortable you are. So people fear cancer more and heart
disease less because they think they have control over heart
disease because the risk factors are things that you can control.
And the cancer fear is higher because the risk factors
of things people.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Feel they can't. That's wrong. You can.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You can control your risk factors for heart disease and cancer.
He points out that we are all hyper connected. Obviously,
we're inundated with stories of danger. Who's it affecting most
the kids that grew up with it. As part of
ongoing research into gen Z's perception of risk. Montclair State
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University did a study that the onslaught of information about
a plethora of threats like crime, small town kidnappings, mass shootings,
climate change, all of that. It's fueling these kids' fears.
A lot of people say, I could be kidnapped, it
could be attacked, or the crime is worse it's ever been,
according to the professor of Justice Studies at Montclair, which
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isn't true. Watching extravagant safety routines on TikTok, videos that
outline ways to intruder proof a hotel room or home
are just fueling the fire that the world is a
dangerous place to the generation that is taking in and
consuming TikTok, which is jen z. It's all magnified if
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you're constantly being inundated and pushed all of this information,
like Debra who's doing the news every day of her
life Monday through Friday, constantly reading more than anybody else
about earthquakes, and then you feel in the little ones,
you're more likely to have your brain go to that
fear of the big one, of the earthquake.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Because I was in the shower again this morning, Shannon,
and I said, you know what, I gotta I gotta
make this a quickie just in case yet. No, I'm
not talking sex hair, Eric, I'm talking a quick shower,
and I didn't wash my hair this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's just random thought.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
You know, things I don't want to impact. This is
what I don't want to have happened. This is why
I did this story, Debrah. I don't want the fear
of the big one to result in you having to
suffer through a quickie or dirty hair.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I want you to be able to do all the
things that you want to do in the shower that
take as much time as they need to take.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That does not sound good, and that was not what
I intended. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I do, I know, I know, thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
No, Seriously, I need to I need to get on
board with what you're talking about, because as it does impact.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, let me get to the solution.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, Okay, let's just speed for I didn't know we
were dealing with QUICKI situations.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Now we're in Defcon one.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, so it says the scientists say number one, avoid
forming an opinion based on gut feelings. Do some research,
Read scientific studies in peer reviewed journals, or reports from
trusted sources about the rates of the specific risk. Well,
you've already done that, you kind of have. You basically
live with Lucy Jones. Now you only refer to her
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as Lucy. Here's number two. Ask yourself why you're frightened.
Is the topic capturing your attention because of news coverage
or conversations on social media? Yeah, so they say to
start consuming things that are not that well, I can't
like the sex stories the sex movies. By the way,
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we have a new one to tell you about. It's
coming up later in the hour. But but the thing,
the takeaway is nothing in this world is without risk.
So you've got to just learn to live with it.
Breathe realize that we're all going to die. Okay, there
you go. J That was very not helpful. We'll throw
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up a link to the article. You want to dive
into that a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
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am six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
President Trump today said he's signing an executive order to
keep TikTok running in the US for another seventy five
days to give his administration more time to broker a
deal to bring TikTok under American ownership. Last time we checked,
Congress had mandated that TikTok be divested from China by
January nineteenth or barred in the US, but he moved.
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Trump did unilaterally to extend the deadline to this weekend,
trying to find an agreement, negotiate an agreement to keep
it running. He has recently entered tained an array of
offers from US businesses seeking to buy a share of TikTok,
but China's Byte Dance, which owns TikTok and it's closely
held algorithm, has insisted the platform is not for sale.
(19:14):
You better believe that TikTok may be a hostage with
this whole tariff.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Mess that has been that has been brewing.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I wouldn't be surprised if China and ByteDance say absolutely not,
We're going to hold TikTok hostage here until you give
us what we want.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And the other big story, you've heard it here first
and you've heard it through KFI News. This afternoon, La
County will pay an unprecedented four billion dollars to settle
more than sixty eight hundred claims of sexual abuse perpetrated
in juvenile facilities or foster cares back as the nineteen sixties.
Sixty eight hundred claims. Payout is massive. It dwarfs every
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other payout. I believe the archdiocese payout for child sex
abuse was.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Two point four billion. This is four billion.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, no, no, that was one point five billion the archdioces,
So this is four This is more than twice that.
This is going to impact the county budget for years
to come.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
They do say that they've structured it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They brought in someone from the NFL in a way
to maintain the county's solvency. So but it is going
to be very painful. It is the costliest financial settlement
in the history of La County Boom period. End of story.
I mentioned this yesterday and it's worth a deeper dive.
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The tortoise. Remember the tortoise, the Galapagos tortoise. This may be,
by the way, something that you could offer up for
what you learned on the Gary and Shannon Show, because
we have not learned much this week.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
We're a little low in the tank. So remember to let.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Us know what you learned on the Gary and Shannon
Show using that talkback feature. On the iHeartRadio app. Just
hit the little microphone there and let us know what
you learned. Maybe it's about the Galapagos tortoise, the Glappagas tortoise.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The name of this tortoise is Mommy. Now stick with
me through this.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Mommy has lived most of her life at the Pennsylvania Zoo,
at the Philadelphia Zoo in Pennsylvania. Okay, Mommy is ninety
seven years old. How did she get her name? I
don't know, because Mommy has just become a first time
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mom at ninety seven. She is the oldest known first
time mother of her species at ninety seven years old,
and her name is Mommy. By the way, it's always
been Mommy. It was Mommy when this tortoise arrived in
Philadelphia in nineteen thirty two, just four years old, straight
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from the wilds of the Galapagos. Apparently Mommy had flings
with other species, but it was Abraiso Abraiso, a ninety
six year old Galapagus tortoise, that fancied her to the
point of conception. Abraiso and Mommy are the new parents.
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I need to stop saying that, because it's creeping me out.
Are the new parents to four hatchlings. The newborns have
bumped the population of the western Santa Cruz Galapagos tortoises
in the US facilities to forty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Imagine that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The offspring of the first of their kind for the zoo,
which is one hundred and fifty years old, a major
boon for the future of the critically endangered species. The
zoo will be debuting the currently name US Babies. You
know how they differentiate them. They put different colors of
nail polish on their shells. But their introduction to the
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public will coincide with a ninety third anniversary of Mommy's
arrival at the zoo. They're going to stay at the
Philadelphia Zoo for at least five years. Are going to
be at a protected habitat because they're very tiny, and
they'll be separate from the adults. The adults can weighup
to five hundred pounds. But imagine that Mommy had flings
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with other species, but it was Abrazo. Abrazo whose records
go back to a Texas zoo in nineteen twenty nine,
new parents at ninety seven and ninety six. That sounds exhausting,
just exhausting, But how beautiful. If you want a close encounter,
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the zoo does offer a behind the scenes experience three
times a week with the Galapagos and Aldebras tortoises. Tickets
will cost you sixty five dollars plus zoo admission. That
would be a fun.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Date or not? Or is that like a serial killer date?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I can't decide whether that be cute or problematic. Guys like, hey,
I got these tickets, these special tickets, and go see.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
These tortoises, like, I mean, be kind of cool. I know,
but is it close to the line of serial killer stuff?
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anymore.
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I don't like what this says because I've taken a
girl to the zoo on a date before.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's sweet. The zoo is sweet.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Like the specific enclosure I think is where you get
a little bit weird.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, that's fair, right, like the zoo.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That's a good date. Did you get any action out
of that? Yeah you did, Yeah you did, Yeah you did.
You don't see a baby draft and not get.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Action, all right?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Coming up next, Speaking of action, Deborah Mark and I
have a new show where I'm going to start watching
it today.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think I think I'm going to tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You know, I was thinking, I am at such a
loss after This Is Us because it was such a
cathartic experience for me, where like it was an outlet
to feel emotions. This is Us was and now it's gone.
And I was watching the trailer for this set. What
I thought was just a sex show, but it involves
a sick woman and I started tearing up a little
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bit watching this trailer.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's based on a true story. Okay, we'll tell you
about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
What did you learn on this week of the Gary
and Channon Show.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Let us know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Use that
little microphone, tap it and let us know. Hey, even
if you didn't learn anything, let us know that you
didn't learn anything, because, to be honest, I'm thinking back
about what I learned on the Gary and Channon Show
this week, and I'm coming up blank. I am coming
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up with a big fat zero. I know I had
a good time. I know I was here just like
y'all we're here, had a good time. I just I
can't really remember what I learned. I guess i'd go
back to the tortoise story that a tortoise can make
a tortoise baby at ninety seven, I don't know, and
that that tortoise was banging around with all those other tortaise.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is it tortoises or tortaise, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But she's banging around for ninety seven years and never
makes a baby, and then all of a sudden, I mean,
she thought she was in the clear, she thought she
wasn't gonna get pregnant. She was like, ah, I've been
banging around with these tortoises for a long time. I
don't I'm not going to have a baby. She's living
her life, she's traveling, she's doing things, and then all
of a sudden, she's got a baby at ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's a complete change of life for her. That's what
I learned.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Anyway, Devor Mark texted me this morning because we've had
a dearth we've kind of reached this point where I
think everybody feels this way, where you've got like some
shows you're into and you're streaming and you're to go
home and be like, oh, I've got this show, get
a couple more episodes and to catch up, or there's
a new season of such and such, and we've been
kind of lamenting that, like we don't really have anything
right now. I did Deborah fall into a show yesterday
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because Justin Wisham told me about it, said he and
his wife are enjoying it. And it's The Secret Millionaire
on Netflix and it is a new reality show. It
sounds like it's an old reality show, like they've done
this before, where there's nine strangers and they're in this
beautiful mansion and it really is beautiful. It's a beautiful setting.
And the difference is this is a reality show where
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people eat. They eat these beautifully crafted meals and they
actually eat the food. It's fascinating to watch people eat
on reality TV.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
And I'm not a big reality TV lever. I gotta
be honest.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, and I go and spits and whatever that phrase is.
I sometimes I'm into it, sometimes I'm not. I kind
of got over the Housewives. That's kind of the ship
has sailed for me. But this one, I don't know.
I think it's Justin recommended it and he said he
and his wife will like it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So I was like, okay, that's two people. Check it out.
And it was really clever.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And it's a good way. It's a good waste of time.
That's what I will say. Okay, But anyway, I fell
into that. Yesterday watched a couple episodes of that. In
other words, six I watched six episodes. But Devor texted
me this morning with a new show with sex in
the title.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yes, remember I think it was last week. I think,
I don't know if I said it on the air.
Off I said, oh, Shannon, there's there's a new show
coming in there's there's sex in the title. I don't
remember what it is called. And then today, because it
debuts today, it popped up on my phone and I
had to tell you, so I texted you right away. Yes,
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and go ahead, you want to say what it's like.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's called Dying for Sex and it's with Michelle Williams
and she plays a woman. This is what I've gleaned
from just watching the trailer, which I did tear up
a little bit watching it. She dying, She's a young
woman dying from cancer. We've we've we've watched this movie before.
But here's a twist. She has never Let's shall we
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say I had enjoyable sex to a point with another human?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay, we can't. We can't. We can't say it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean we could.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So so she is now and they showed this like
clip of her with who I'm assuming is a therapist
or someone to help her through her diagnosis and life
and all of that, and she says something to the
effect to Michelle Williams, Well, everyone's got a bucket list,
so it seems like this is gonna be Michelle Williams.
Her character's bucket list is to go and have sex
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with guys she gets on the dating apps and with
this being her quest, her dying quest.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And it is a.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It is a series, right, not a movie. And it's
based on a true story.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
It was a podcast, Oh my gosh, okay, and yeah,
so it's based on the woman has terminal breast cancer
and I've never heard of something like this before.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
It's I'm I'm really looking forward to watching it for
lots of different reasons. But I know I'm going to
be really sad. Sometimes I need a good cry.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I know I do too, And this one. It's on Hulu.
It's a they call it a comedy drama mini series
for FX on Hulu. It's eight episodes. They're all debuting
today or they have debut they're available. And yeah, I
was gonna say, I'm surprised I haven't heard the podcast.
But usually if this podcast was sold as somebody is
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sick with cancer and they're you know, on the dating apps,
it probably wouldn't be something I clicked on, although it sounds.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know, usually it's true crime stuff that I'll click on.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But this, this looks really really good, might be one
of those ones where I go back.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But but yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
The name of the podcast series, let's see, what was
the name, Well, it's based on the name, right, based
on the podcast series of the same name by Wondering.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh yeah, Wondering Boyar Yeah, Wondering Guy's great podcasts. I mean,
they're not as good as the Iheartradios, Gary and Channon
Show podcast or the John Cobolt Show, right, but they
can compete, all right, So we'll have to check that out.
We'll report back on what you watch on Wednesday. We'll
talk trending when we come back to Gary and Shannon.
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I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a
liar and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. Yeah,
we got the real problem is that our leaders are done.
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The other side never quit.
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So what you're doing, I'm not going anywhere.
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So now now you train the swamp, I can imagine
and what can be and be unburdened by what has
been You know, Mervans have always been coming at president.
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They're not stupid.
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A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
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counter on, Well.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We'll just get it out of the way. Taking a
look at the Dow right now, the Dow is down
fifteen sixty nine, Nasdaq down about four point three percent,
down about seven to ten. There. Stock markets worldwide continue
to correne even today, even lower today, I should say,
after China has struck back against President Trump's tariffs in
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this escalating trade war. There was a better than expected
report on the US job market, usually the economic highlight
of every month. That was not enough to stop this slide.
And it doesn't hurt less knowing that it was coming,
but we did know what was coming. So far, there
are few, if any winners when you look at the
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markets from this trade war. European stocks saw some of
the day's biggest losses. The price of crude oil tumbled
to its lowest level in four years since twenty twenty one. Copper,
which is one of the building blocks for economic growth,
Copper supply prices slide as well.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
When you talk about the.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Global economy weakening, pretty much everything is hit. On Friday
evening in Beijing, China set out to announce a series
of rapid fire policy announcements, including thirty four percent across
the board tariffs. China's basically saying, we have no intention
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of backing down. We have no intention of coming to
the table and playing with you on the art of
a deal. We will see who has more of a
stomach for hardball as we continue, because like I said earlier,
I don't know how much patience President Trump has to
be unpopular for a long period of time, and that's
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what's going to happen, because it's not just the stock
market and the intangibles.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's going to be the tangibles.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
It's going to be the things in the grocery store
that you're touching and feeling when you hit the cash register.
So Trump's plan for thirty four percent tariffs on goods
from China has been matched with a thirty four percent
tariff on imports from the US. China's Ministry of Commerce
as it was adding eleven American companies to its list
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of unreliable entities, which means that they are pretty much
barred from doing business in China or with Chinese companies.
This ministry imposed a licensing system to restrict exports of
seven rare earth elements. And that's what I kept reading
this morning, rare earth elements. What the hell is that?
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I feel like I'm in some sort of crystal shop.
Tell me my tarot reading. But no, these things go
into everything from batteries, car systems, car computer systems, computer chips,
electric cars, smart bombs. All of these things are going
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to be hit. China's General Administration of Customs that it
would halt chicken imports from five of America's biggest exporters
of AG commodities. So it is hitting people across the board,
and just to touch on the ag AG industry, when
it comes to small businesses, people are getting out and talking.
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Reporters are getting out and talking to people that run
small businesses.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Wendy bro is one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wendy is owner of dry Ridge Farm in Marshall, North Carolina,
and she says that these tariffs are like pouring salt
in a wound that's now just beginning to heal.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We've kind of talked about that.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
From a conceptualized level of we're just getting out of
this inflation and that Trump campaign so hard to fix
with the waning days of the Bided administration, just keeping
us deep into that inflation mess. This is now as
we try to crawl out of that. This is like
throwing a weight on top of it. Like Wendy said,
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there was a small business meeting, a small business owner meeting,
I should say, this week, and Wendy says they talked
about the fact that tariffs are increased the cost of
everything on the farm, from fertilizer and feed to construction
materials and tractors, hitting this farming community there in Marshall
while it is recovering not only from inflation and COVID
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and all of that, but also the crop losses after
Hurricane Helene. So they've had uncertainty for a long time
and we're hoping and praying that with this new administration
they'd have some solid ground quite literally to stand on
and bounce back when it comes to their business there
on the farm. But she says that the retaliatory tariffs
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are going to affect their largest expense, which is the
animal feed. So again we're just gonna have to wait
and see. I don't see the good thing about President
Trump's personality from what I've been able to glean over
the years that we've been covering him, are that he
will take a small victory and turn it into a
large one. So if he can find a small victory
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in this tariff policy, if the Chinas of the world
do not come to the table and rework the ways
that many believe that America is being screwed over, if
China refuses to come to that art of the deal table,
we're gonna have to find a small victory somewhere and
run with it to get out of this mess.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
If it ends up.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Where the other countries cave and we end up getting
better long term business deals with other countries when it
comes to the global supply chain, excellent. But in the meantime,
holy hell, things are going to get dark, all right?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Coming up next?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, I saw the story and I thought of Deborah, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Keana sent it to me. No, there's not sex. People
are going to get the really really.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Odd I know, but I mean, you're right, we should
explain more often. We don't explain the inside jokes enough.
Deborah and I we found that we and this is
years ago now probably that we both enjoy shows that
have a little bit of sex and them.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yes, we like this space.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
This is none.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This is all legal. It's all legal sex. It's all
like PG. Thirteen type stuff. But we do like those shows,
whether it's you know, The Gilded Age or sex Life
on Netflix or whatever. They're entertaining. They're fun, they're popcorn shows.
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It makes us just not think about it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's in a scape exactly why we watched that, And
that's exactly why this story peaked my interest because here's
the headline, plane crashes, toxic spatulas, crime, How to think
about risk in the world, because you know how you
feel about earthquake stebra, Yes, and there's just constantly this
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barrage of bad news and things to be worried about.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So this article was all about.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It was in Vox, I believe, how to deal with
life's inevitable risks, how to just move past it, just
to accept it and then continue on with your day.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
We'll get into it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Fascinating story I'm just diving into here in Vox. How
to live with life's inevitable risks. So many great points
to get to in this that they do get to.
I guess I should say the opening line is the
world is trying to kill you. This much is true.
So they really set the table correctly. There they go
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to talk about how plane crashes a nearly weekly basis forever. Chemicals,
microplastics are in our water, They're in our beauty products,
they're in our clothing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
They're even in our brains. Remember that story from.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
A few weeks ago about plastics in our brains. You're
kitchen utensils poisoning you. Maybe your food is as well.
There was a lot of no wonder, anxiety is off
the hook, right.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
No wonder.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
If you're constantly being bombarded with all of this, of
course you're going to think the world is a fundamentally
dangerous place. In twenty twenty three, there was a Gallop
poll that said forty percent of Americans had they felt
unsafe walking home alone at night, the highest rate since
nineteen ninety three. Now, what was going on in nineteen
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ninety three. I know I wasn't paying attention. I was
a kid, But I'm if I if my memory serves
correctly in any sort of reading I've ever done. That
was when crime rates were through the roof right late eighties,
early nineties. Violent crime was crazy, So that's notable. It's
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the highest rate now since nineteen ninety three. And nineteen
ninety three we didn't even really, we weren't bombarded with
knowing about crime rates because we didn't have what we
may have had. Twenty four hour new CNN may have
been a thing. It was a thing, but we weren't
bombarded with news in our pockets, in our hands, like
in our phones, the way we are now.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That has led us to believe that danger is everywhere,
they say.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Generations ago, risks were largely evaluated by the scientific and
cultural knowledge of the day. Prior to the Industrial Revolution,
some of the greatest risks came from natural causes.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Fires that would.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Destroy homes in the middle of the night in cities,
you know, like the Great Fire, the Chicago Fire, whatever
these fires you learn about in the history books, right,
Infectious diseases, the plague, black death, those things, unpredictable weather conditions,
abs in any kind of data or expert guidance. People
then relied largely on their own experience and their experiences
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of or the experiences of others that they had heard
about to kind of gauge risk. Like if your cousin
went on a transcontinental ocean voyage and.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Never returned, you'd say, probably not for me. You die
when you do that.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
They say that these days, we are staying well informed
about all the bad and scary things happening the world
over data statistics in no short supply, and the scientists
will tell you we're not good at interpreting this information.
We are reactionary. We're not scientists. We're not going to
sit down and be like, hm, now what does this
mean and.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Pour over it.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
No, we're going to react and say, oh, hell, my
home's gonna crumble in the night. Dirk Wolf is a
senior research scientist at the Max Plant Institute for Human Development,
and he says the human brain is ill equipped to
process large numbers. While a one in a million chance
of developing a rare cancer is hard for our brains
to digest. People think it's more likely than it really
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is because we're human and that's how we take numbers
like that in. He says, the same goes for evaluating
risk based on our own experiences. And he says it's
just objectively often wrong because we haven't made enough experiences
to see some of the bad things that could happen
if all your car rides occurred without incident. You may
incorrectly believe driving carries less risk than air travel based
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purely on your own history. So you know, how many
car crashes have you and your friends been in? How
many airplane crashes have you and your friend's been in.
It's that whole thing. It's like when you're flying and
I have it, and I know it's in an irrational
fear sometimes of flying. And I know it's irrational because
I've been in more car accidents than I have ever
in a plane accident. I guess part of the irrational
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fear what feeds it is that plane crashes you don't
survives often she fors survived car crushes. Right, It's like,
if the plane's going down, it's probably going to be
a I'm not helping this story, I realize that, he says,
and the senior research as scientists and the Max Planck
Institute Dirk Wolf says the most accurate assessment of risk
is to marry experience with data and expert driven advice,
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but that our human miscalculations continually threaten that delicate balance,
that we misjudge the risk for rare and extreme events.
We choose to gamble despite the low likelihood of winning,
opt out of swimming in the ocean due to the
potential of a shark attack. Apparently, we're running around with
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a lot of irrational fears. The more in control you feel,
they say, the more comfortable you are with risk. There
was a book called how Risky is It Really? Why
our fears don't always match the facts. The author, David
Ropeak says, the more in control you feel, the more
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comfortable you are. So people fear cancer more and heart
disease less because they think they have control over heart
disease because the risk factors are things that you can control.
And the cancer fear is higher because the risk factors
of things people.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Feel they can't. That's wrong. You can.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You can control your risk factors for heart disease and cancer.
He points out that we are all hyper connected. Obviously,
we're inundated with stories of danger. Who's it affecting most
the kids that grew up with it. As part of
ongoing research into gen Z's perception of risk. Montclair State
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University did a study that the onslaught of information about
a plethora of threats like crime, small town kidnappings, mass shootings,
climate change, all of that. It's fueling these kids' fears.
A lot of people say, I could be kidnapped, it
could be attacked, or the crime is worse it's ever been,
according to the professor of Justice Studies at Montclair, which
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isn't true. Watching extravagant safety routines on TikTok, videos that
outline ways to intruder proof a hotel room or home
are just fueling the fire that the world is a
dangerous place to the generation that is taking in and
consuming TikTok, which is jen z. It's all magnified if
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you're constantly being inundated and pushed all of this information,
like Debra who's doing the news every day of her
life Monday through Friday, constantly reading more than anybody else
about earthquakes, and then you feel in the little ones,
you're more likely to have your brain go to that
fear of the big one, of the earthquake.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Because I was in the shower again this morning, Shannon,
and I said, you know what, I gotta I gotta
make this a quickie just in case yet. No, I'm
not talking sex hair, Eric, I'm talking a quick shower,
and I didn't wash my hair this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's just random thought.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
You know, things I don't want to impact. This is
what I don't want to have happened. This is why
I did this story, Debrah. I don't want the fear
of the big one to result in you having to
suffer through a quickie or dirty hair.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I want you to be able to do all the
things that you want to do in the shower that
take as much time as they need to take.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That does not sound good, and that was not what
I intended. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I do, I know, I know, thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
No, Seriously, I need to I need to get on
board with what you're talking about, because as it does impact.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, let me get to the solution.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Okay, Okay, let's just speed for I didn't know we
were dealing with QUICKI situations.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Now we're in Defcon one.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, so it says the scientists say number one, avoid
forming an opinion based on gut feelings. Do some research,
Read scientific studies in peer reviewed journals, or reports from
trusted sources about the rates of the specific risk. Well,
you've already done that, you kind of have. You basically
live with Lucy Jones. Now you only refer to her
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as Lucy. Here's number two. Ask yourself why you're frightened.
Is the topic capturing your attention because of news coverage
or conversations on social media? Yeah, so they say to
start consuming things that are not that well, I can't
like the sex stories the sex movies. By the way,
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we have a new one to tell you about. It's
coming up later in the hour. But but the thing,
the takeaway is nothing in this world is without risk.
So you've got to just learn to live with it.
Breathe realize that we're all going to die. Okay, there
you go. J That was very not helpful. We'll throw
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up a link to the article. You want to dive
into that a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on Demand from KFI
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Speaker 1 (18:27):
President Trump today said he's signing an executive order to
keep TikTok running in the US for another seventy five
days to give his administration more time to broker a
deal to bring TikTok under American ownership. Last time we checked,
Congress had mandated that TikTok be divested from China by
January nineteenth or barred in the US, but he moved.
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Trump did unilaterally to extend the deadline to this weekend,
trying to find an agreement, negotiate an agreement to keep
it running. He has recently entered tained an array of
offers from US businesses seeking to buy a share of TikTok,
but China's Byte Dance, which owns TikTok and it's closely
held algorithm, has insisted the platform is not for sale.
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You better believe that TikTok may be a hostage with
this whole tariff.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Mess that has been that has been brewing.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I wouldn't be surprised if China and ByteDance say absolutely not,
We're going to hold TikTok hostage here until you give
us what we want.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
We'll see how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And the other big story, you've heard it here first
and you've heard it through KFI News. This afternoon, La
County will pay an unprecedented four billion dollars to settle
more than sixty eight hundred claims of sexual abuse perpetrated
in juvenile facilities or foster cares back as the nineteen sixties.
Sixty eight hundred claims. Payout is massive. It dwarfs every
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other payout. I believe the archdiocese payout for child sex
abuse was.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Two point four billion. This is four billion.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
No, no, no, that was one point five billion the archdioces,
So this is four This is more than twice that.
This is going to impact the county budget for years
to come.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
They do say that they've structured it.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
They brought in someone from the NFL in a way
to maintain the county's solvency. So but it is going
to be very painful. It is the costliest financial settlement
in the history of La County Boom period. End of story.
I mentioned this yesterday and it's worth a deeper dive.
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The tortoise. Remember the tortoise, the Galapagos tortoise. This may be,
by the way, something that you could offer up for
what you learned on the Gary and Shannon Show, because
we have not learned much this week.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
We're a little low in the tank. So remember to let.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Us know what you learned on the Gary and Shannon
Show using that talkback feature. On the iHeartRadio app. Just
hit the little microphone there and let us know what
you learned. Maybe it's about the Galapagos tortoise, the Glappagas tortoise.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
The name of this tortoise is Mommy. Now stick with
me through this.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Mommy has lived most of her life at the Pennsylvania Zoo,
at the Philadelphia Zoo in Pennsylvania. Okay, Mommy is ninety
seven years old. How did she get her name? I
don't know, because Mommy has just become a first time
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mom at ninety seven. She is the oldest known first
time mother of her species at ninety seven years old,
and her name is Mommy. By the way, it's always
been Mommy. It was Mommy when this tortoise arrived in
Philadelphia in nineteen thirty two, just four years old, straight
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from the wilds of the Galapagos. Apparently Mommy had flings
with other species, but it was Abraiso Abraiso, a ninety
six year old Galapagus tortoise, that fancied her to the
point of conception. Abraiso and Mommy are the new parents.
(22:31):
I need to stop saying that, because it's creeping me out.
Are the new parents to four hatchlings. The newborns have
bumped the population of the western Santa Cruz Galapagos tortoises
in the US facilities to forty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Imagine that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The offspring of the first of their kind for the zoo,
which is one hundred and fifty years old, a major
boon for the future of the critically endangered species. The
zoo will be debuting the currently name US Babies. You
know how they differentiate them. They put different colors of
nail polish on their shells. But their introduction to the
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public will coincide with a ninety third anniversary of Mommy's
arrival at the zoo. They're going to stay at the
Philadelphia Zoo for at least five years. Are going to
be at a protected habitat because they're very tiny, and
they'll be separate from the adults. The adults can weighup
to five hundred pounds. But imagine that Mommy had flings
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with other species, but it was Abrazo. Abrazo whose records
go back to a Texas zoo in nineteen twenty nine,
new parents at ninety seven and ninety six. That sounds exhausting,
just exhausting, But how beautiful. If you want a close encounter,
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the zoo does offer a behind the scenes experience three
times a week with the Galapagos and Aldebras tortoises. Tickets
will cost you sixty five dollars plus zoo admission. That
would be a fun.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Date or not? Or is that like a serial killer date?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I can't decide whether that be cute or problematic. Guys like, hey,
I got these tickets, these special tickets, and go see.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
These tortoises, like, I mean, be kind of cool. I know,
but is it close to the line of serial killer stuff?
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anymore.
I don't either.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I don't like what this says because I've taken a
girl to the zoo on a date before.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's sweet. The zoo is sweet.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Like the specific enclosure I think is where you get
a little bit weird.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, that's fair, right, like the zoo.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That's a good date. Did you get any action out
of that? Yeah you did, Yeah you did, Yeah you did.
You don't see a baby draft and not get.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Action, all right?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Coming up next, Speaking of action, Deborah Mark and I
have a new show where I'm going to start watching
it today.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think I think I'm going to tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You know, I was thinking, I am at such a
loss after This Is Us because it was such a
cathartic experience for me, where like it was an outlet
to feel emotions. This is Us was and now it's gone.
And I was watching the trailer for this set. What
I thought was just a sex show, but it involves
a sick woman and I started tearing up a little
(25:17):
bit watching this trailer.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
It's based on a true story. Okay, we'll tell you
about it when we come back.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
What did you learn on this week of the Gary
and Channon Show.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Let us know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. Use that
little microphone, tap it and let us know. Hey, even
if you didn't learn anything, let us know that you
didn't learn anything, because, to be honest, I'm thinking back
about what I learned on the Gary and Channon Show
this week, and I'm coming up blank. I am coming
(25:56):
up with a big fat zero. I know I had
a good time. I know I was here just like
y'all we're here, had a good time. I just I
can't really remember what I learned. I guess i'd go
back to the tortoise story that a tortoise can make
a tortoise baby at ninety seven, I don't know, and
that that tortoise was banging around with all those other tortaise.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Is it tortoises or tortaise, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But she's banging around for ninety seven years and never
makes a baby, and then all of a sudden, I mean,
she thought she was in the clear, she thought she
wasn't gonna get pregnant. She was like, ah, I've been
banging around with these tortoises for a long time. I
don't I'm not going to have a baby. She's living
her life, she's traveling, she's doing things, and then all
of a sudden, she's got a baby at ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's a complete change of life for her. That's what
I learned.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Anyway, Devor Mark texted me this morning because we've had
a dearth we've kind of reached this point where I
think everybody feels this way, where you've got like some
shows you're into and you're streaming and you're to go
home and be like, oh, I've got this show, get
a couple more episodes and to catch up, or there's
a new season of such and such, and we've been
kind of lamenting that, like we don't really have anything
right now. I did Deborah fall into a show yesterday
(27:12):
because Justin Wisham told me about it, said he and
his wife are enjoying it. And it's The Secret Millionaire
on Netflix and it is a new reality show. It
sounds like it's an old reality show, like they've done
this before, where there's nine strangers and they're in this
beautiful mansion and it really is beautiful. It's a beautiful setting.
And the difference is this is a reality show where
(27:33):
people eat. They eat these beautifully crafted meals and they
actually eat the food. It's fascinating to watch people eat
on reality TV.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
And I'm not a big reality TV lever. I gotta
be honest.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, and I go and spits and whatever that phrase is.
I sometimes I'm into it, sometimes I'm not. I kind
of got over the Housewives. That's kind of the ship
has sailed for me. But this one, I don't know.
I think it's Justin recommended it and he said he
and his wife will like it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So I was like, okay, that's two people. Check it out.
And it was really clever.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
And it's a good way. It's a good waste of time.
That's what I will say. Okay, But anyway, I fell
into that. Yesterday watched a couple episodes of that. In
other words, six I watched six episodes. But Devor texted
me this morning with a new show with sex in
the title.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Yes, remember I think it was last week. I think,
I don't know if I said it on the air.
Off I said, oh, Shannon, there's there's a new show
coming in there's there's sex in the title. I don't
remember what it is called. And then today, because it
debuts today, it popped up on my phone and I
had to tell you, so I texted you right away. Yes,
(28:43):
and go ahead, you want to say what it's like.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's called Dying for Sex and it's with Michelle Williams
and she plays a woman. This is what I've gleaned
from just watching the trailer, which I did tear up
a little bit watching it. She dying, She's a young
woman dying from cancer. We've we've we've watched this movie before.
But here's a twist. She has never Let's shall we
(29:11):
say I had enjoyable sex to a point with another human?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Okay, we can't. We can't. We can't say it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean we could.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
So so she is now and they showed this like
clip of her with who I'm assuming is a therapist
or someone to help her through her diagnosis and life
and all of that, and she says something to the
effect to Michelle Williams, Well, everyone's got a bucket list,
so it seems like this is gonna be Michelle Williams.
Her character's bucket list is to go and have sex
(29:47):
with guys she gets on the dating apps and with
this being her quest, her dying quest.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And it is a.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
It is a series, right, not a movie. And it's
based on a true story.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
It was a podcast, Oh my gosh, okay, and yeah,
so it's based on the woman has terminal breast cancer
and I've never heard of something like this before.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
It's I'm I'm really looking forward to watching it for
lots of different reasons. But I know I'm going to
be really sad. Sometimes I need a good cry.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I know I do too, And this one. It's on Hulu.
It's a they call it a comedy drama mini series
for FX on Hulu. It's eight episodes. They're all debuting
today or they have debut they're available. And yeah, I
was gonna say, I'm surprised I haven't heard the podcast.
But usually if this podcast was sold as somebody is
(30:48):
sick with cancer and they're you know, on the dating apps,
it probably wouldn't be something I clicked on, although it sounds.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You know, usually it's true crime stuff that I'll click on.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But this, this looks really really good, might be one
of those ones where I go back.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And listen to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
But but yeah, so.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
The name of the podcast series, let's see, what was
the name, Well, it's based on the name, right, based
on the podcast series of the same name by Wondering.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh yeah, Wondering Boyar Yeah, Wondering Guy's great podcasts. I mean,
they're not as good as the Iheartradios, Gary and Channon
Show podcast or the John Cobolt Show, right, but they
can compete, all right, So we'll have to check that out.
We'll report back on what you watch on Wednesday. We'll
talk trending when we come back to Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
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