Awww Late Stage Capitalism, Long Live The Queen 8.16.18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season forty four episode
for the Daily Sight Guys. We're Thursday, August sixteen, two
thousand eighteen, and names Jack O'Brien a kay, I'm Jack y'all,
and I'm Jack y'all. And I'm Jack at d Jack
and I'm Jack y'all. That is courtesy of Joe Bocanegra
on Twitter, and I am thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host, Mr Miles. I would swallow

(00:21):
my pride. I would choke on the side, but the
jack there are would let me empty O'Brien, swallow my
not turn it inside out, Miles. Nothing but graping nut
being on in the blow. Okay, that is from Chapman
Rice coming with the heavy heat on that one. She
back so yeah. And in our third seed we have
the contributing editor and co host back Talk Podcast and

(00:44):
Bitch Media. I'm so excited to have back the brilliant
writer Amy lamb Hi have a singing anyway it yes,
if I may, She dreams in call or she dreams
and cats find Amy. I went to college with named

(01:08):
Zach Bitterman and we used to sing farm Zack Bitterman. Uh.
But I like Amy Lamb because that works very well well. Amy,
We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
in a moment. But first we're going to tell our
listeners what they're in store for. We're going to talk
about Aretha Franklin. We're gonna talk about Crazy Rich Accasions,
which is opening today or open last night. Uh. We're

(01:30):
gonna check in with Jason Kessler see what he's up
to following the sort of fizzling out of the Unite
the Right to rally. We are going to check in
with Alex Jones because people are still telling us that
the Facebook band hasn't slowed him down. It's still just
as important as he's always been. We are gonna look
at how post Me two comebacks might happen. Then we're

(01:54):
gonna check in with some heartwarming stories that usually here
on the news in America today that are actually a
disguise for just late stage capitalism horror shows. Uh. And
we'll also just check them with the Catholic Church, which
I think everything's good there, right, Everything's going well. But first, Amy,

(02:15):
we like to ask our guest, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are? So recently,
I was hanging out with my partner and his family,
and then I guess they do like a family thing
now recently where they work on crossword puzzles together because
they're so hard, like like the ones in the paper.
I mean, I can't do them. I just can't. And

(02:36):
so there was a clue, and then with the clue
with Jeers and then um, they were able to figure
out the answer because they got all the other ones
around it. The word was hoot set and I was like,
what the fund is a hoots at? Hoots? Yeah, And
I googled hoots that and I was like, what's what
is this? Because the clue was Jeers And then I
like googled and I found nothing like h O T
S A T. And then I was like, oh, it's

(03:00):
Boots space act. But we really spent twenty minutes. What's
a hoots at? Well, I'm using it. I'm adopting that
into my vocabulary anymore. Hoots guys, Hey, kids, put your
coats on hoots that's out. What is something you think
is overrated? Pretty cool? U is pretty cool. Lufa's just

(03:20):
in general, say lupus, lupus can't slow me down, Slow down,
just the exfoliating kind the what are we talking Lufa's overrated? Yeah,
they're okay. I just don't get that. I mean I
think I have an unconventional history with bathing that is

(03:41):
a dope way to describe how I bathed in junior high,
like a non traditional bathing history. So Lufa's just kind
of like gross me out. They're just like these physical
manifestations of like asterisks that have like bacteria in them.
I just I'm just not I just yeah that there's
I don't know. I mean, you got out pretty quiarly.

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If they told me that they were made of like
some sort of anti microbial like you know, synthetic thing,
I would be cool with it. But yeah, they're just
like scrunched up folds that could just be wond which
are sponges. Way are we talking about like a shower
puff or like a loof, like a proper loose Like

(04:21):
I'm thinking, like the license, yeah, yeah, you gotta yeah,
you gotta rotate something. No. I was like at the
drug store the other day and I said, like, replace
your looft every thirty days, and I'm like this is
a scam. I'm like, well, I'm forty months behind. That's
what they're disgusting. Groth. Uh, you can't just say I

(04:41):
have an unconventional bathing history and just let that sit there.
What what what is your unconventional bathing history? Well, I
think up until I was maybe in junior high, like
in our family, we didn't use a shower. Until I
started using the shower in your house, I was like,
I'm going to be a rebel. But before that, we
would do like bucket bass. So we have like a
like a five gallon, like a random bucket that we

(05:03):
got from like a home, deepot or some ship, and
so you fulfill it with warm water, and there'd be
like a scoop, and the scoop was usually like um,
one of those plastic containers that you used to hold
coins from Vegas. You know, like you bigger than a cut,
a little bit wider than like a big gulpy size
so and then so and then we have a washcloth
in it. So you like squat with like the bucket

(05:25):
in between your legs and then you just kind of
like pour the water on yourself. And this is like, yeah,
I mean it's very like Old West. Yeah, I don't
know what it was. Japanese a shower necessarily, like we
have a bucket and like that's and so it was
like I guess the water seemingly. But the thing, this
is how my parents grew up baby, So we just

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did it. And when I was like, I watched enough TV,
I'm like, oh my god, there's there's literally a shower
head in here, so why don't we use it? And
then even when I was using like bathing that way,
then I didn't use soap. And it wasn't until I
was like in my mid twenties that I started using
soap to bathe. And what do you think of soap
just rinsing off your body? I was just rinsing and
it didn't smell. I didn't have like bo or whatever.

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And it was an entire lives in China. I was
like it must have been a diet I was eating.
But I was like starting to be like, oh my god, guys,
I need to use soup because like all of my
people who was living in China and were like, yo,
like you don't use so black. I was also sweating
because I like so Then i started I'm like, wow, guys,
that can use soap. So so now I'm just like
I'm a I'm a soap shower. I don't even use

(06:27):
wash cloths, so I'm like pretty bare man with my baby,
gotta have a worsh cloth. Yeah, I just I don't
think I used to use a washcloth when I was
a kid, but like, I just don't. So I'm not
exfoliating enough. Oh man. Like my ways to have this
this Japanese like fabric thing that was like an exfoliating rag. Yo,
scrub the ship out of your skin. So the ship

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was red and you know, all the dead skin would
come off. And then also my dad saide to black
people use the wash cloth. So I was getting it
all kinds of ways. But I'm the same way. I
was raised in a bathtub basically that it wasn't till
I was in junior high that I was like, yo, man,
I can't be like this fourteen year old thing. My
mom coming in, I got like looking at my little
sad pubic hair is coming out. I'm like, yo, this

(07:07):
is not the wave anymore. Like I need to shower
in shame by myself and as a white I spent
my just rubbing bars of soap on my taping. Uh,
what's something that's underrated the mute button like on a
social media stuff like on Twitter and uh and so
I didn't know there was a met on Instagram until

(07:29):
recently there is, yes, right, just it was just incorporated
breaking the haters on I g yeah, and you know,
like I had some I don't get that many souls
or whatever on Twitter. But I actually because you know,
I've been on the show once like a while ago,
and I think I got some followers from that, and
I think one of your listeners like got upset with

(07:50):
me because I was talking about white Man. So I
was like, I was like, I'm gonna mute on him
because I don't know where else he would have anything wrong. Wow. Um. Yeah.
I also mute is just useful on Instagram for a
number of reasons. There's some people who just post too much.
I think I'm not looking at you because you rarely post,

(08:15):
but there's some people who just start like I'm gonna start. Yeah.
For interpersonal reasons, Yes, it's great for so many and
it's actually a great tool against the troll because they
still think they're talking to you and they are in
an echo chamber of vacuum by themselves and they're like, yeah,
I showed them. I don't know her. It is wonderful

(08:37):
on Twitter. You can even just like mute people when
you get the sense that there's like something even a
little passive aggressive, even if they're like being yeah, surface
level nice, It's like I could see this going in
a negative direction. So you're going to be talking to
yourself for the next five years. What is a myth? Amy? Finally,
what is a thing that people think it is true

(08:57):
that you know to be false. I think there's like
a proliferation of like cooking things and shows and stuff
like that, like cooking content, yes, or like get your
own subscription box that cook things, etcetera. But I think
there's this myth around like how cooking is like healing
and seft care, etcetera, etcetera. But I think cooking is
the worst. It's the boring a ship. Like I love eating,

(09:20):
I'll eat right and I but I just think cooking
is so boring. And I think it's a myth that's
like trying to seduce us into this idea that like
we need to like stand around and like peel ship
for three hours. That's how I feel about a job,
you know what I mean? I thought with the paycheck,
the work. You can miss me with that ship. Every
time I ask, I'm like, bro, what day is it?

(09:43):
Is it the second Friday? And now God just use
just use a voice machine to talk. But yeah, I
think it all depends on how you're wired too, because
some people like the like the focus, but her majesty,
my partner, she's not. She is it's not as like
an exhilarating event. Loves the end product in between, like
it's stressful for her sometimes. I don't know. I think

(10:05):
in the beginning, when I started cooking, it was very
frustrating because my knife skills are fucked up between ten
years to just do the simple ship and then once
you get the groove going. But you are somebody who
get something out of cooking, and I agree. It's not
treated as a subjective thing. It's treated as like, well,
this is something like breathing back and yeah, it's like everything.
It's like an important part of the human experience that

(10:26):
we all must enjoy. And I'm a person like you.
I I don't like cooking. It takes me forever, so
it's frustrating for you. It's just like I get distracted.
I get so bored by it that I just it
takes me a long time. I have to like be
like reading something or listening to something, and then like, yeah,
isn't that why people say like it tastes better when

(10:48):
you don't cook it right, and all I've heard the opposite.
It all depends. I don't care. I agree. I agree
with that sometimes because you may end up using the
same flavor profiles a lot. So in that way, it
can be like that, just try fucking some different ingredients
from time to time. And that's when usual when I'm like,
oh shit, I made this. Well, so here's here's the

(11:08):
thing for lazy cookers like myself and still eating good.
Is that like I've hacked it, because well, I think
you need to have one thing that's really good or
you're not like somebody who's into cooking. Is that you
need to be like a habitual eater because that would
eat the same ship all the time. And like yeah,
so like I really funk with like you know, dry
noodle packets, rabman packets, and then you add like different
veggies or different proteins to it, and it's super easy

(11:30):
just like take it out of frigie, chop it up
and boil it. So that's my hack. It's like and
also you can get like buyons for like fun broth
or like raben broth, and so that's just that's just
way easy and it literally takes less than ten minutes.
And then you lower your bar because you're like, this
is easy, and I love yes, and I'll and I
literally only eat little soup when I'm alone. So that's why.
I mean, the last time I was talking about how

(11:52):
is dehydrated, I thought about it. I'm like, man, I
eat so much noodle soup. I don't think I'm that
dehydrated and all that salt, and I know I helpe
mere retaining waters. That's the thing. I think people also
disregard as how much water we get in our diet.
They think you need to get like nine glasses of
pure water. And it's like, now you get like most

(12:13):
of that from your diet from it, I get from
your noodle soup, from your you know, drinking just cracking
a forty is steel reserve to them. I think things
taste better if I make them and they're super easy,
like like you're saying, like they're like toast. Yeah, No,
Like I used to just eat when I was, you know, single,
and in my twenties I would make like macaroni with

(12:34):
just crushed tomatoes over it, and like, I've tried it
recently and it's not that good. But because it was
like so easy and just out of necessity, I was like, man,
this is really I ate that every night for like,
is this ship? Alright, guys, let's get into the stories
of today. Unfortunately the queen is dead, long lived the

(12:57):
Queen Aretha Franklin past. Yeah. Uh, one of the great
artists of our lifetime. I went into a k hole
this morning. I was supposed to be here a little earlier,
but I woke up. I found a Rita had passed away,
and I was, I mean earlier this week. They're like,
she's in grave condition or whatever. But my goodness, Aretha
Franklin's importance to music cannot be underlined enough. Like she

(13:20):
is truly one of the greats when it comes to
music that was made in the twentieth century. You know,
she really brought the sacred sound to the secular world,
the gospel sound, the soul sound, and made that accessible
for many people. Before it was very abstract or just
it was other. It was like Okay. That's especially from
a marketing standpoint, they be like, you know that people

(13:41):
of color listen to the soul music, that kind of music.
We can't really mainstream that. And you know, you can
see in her career she was on Columbia Records very
early on and had marginal success, but she was singing
like jazz standards and pop songs and things like that,
and they weren't tapping into her background as a powerful
gospel singer. And the second Jerry Wexler from Atlantic Records

(14:02):
signed her, got her to Muscle Souls said the first
song I Want You to Do is a blue song
because she had not done that in her previous recordings.
She sat down, hit one chord and everyone in the
room goes, Okay, I don't know what that was right there,
but this is going to be the song, and lo
and behold it was I Never loved a man the
way I loved You. And that was her first huge hit.

(14:22):
And I mean, yeah, read as much as you can
about this one, because from her work just even doing
good for civil rights and equality and things like that,
to her music and just the evolution of hearing gospel music.
I mean, there were people like Mahalia Jackson, who were
very talented, amazing gospel singers who didn't quite cross over
because you know the world wasn't ready, but Wreatha blew

(14:45):
it open for everybody else. And that soul sound, my goodness,
hats off to you or the hat, as Anna Josny says,
refers to the hat she wore at Obama's inauguration, which
is an amazing work of I think almost surreal, really
a fascinator between fascinator and hat, and just it's about
the size of which should go on like the Christmas

(15:09):
tree in New York City, like it's like brand new
one of those commercials holidays. Yeah, and just to producer
Nick Stuff, who's a musician, was pointing out just what
an amazing piano player she is. There's a video will
post in the footnotes where we link off to where
she's playing the piano on a live appearance and saying
it's pretty incredible. Um, she showed the world what the

(15:32):
soul sound can do. And yeah, thank you Aretha Franklin.
You guys crazy rich Asians. I think opened last night
and you know is opening over the course of this
coming weekend. It's getting really solid reviews. Um, I'm excited
Constance who was the lead. I feel like her performance

(15:52):
as the mom on Fresh Off the Boat is uh,
I don't know. It reminds me of like what a
lot of Asian Americans I know say they love and
respect about their own moms. She's like unapologetic and strong,
and I don't know. I read one person talk about
the moment and the crazy rich Asians trailer where she
laughs and she laughs hard and loud and like doesn't

(16:14):
cover her mouth, and they were like, that act is
not normal for an Asian character in a you know,
Western movie. I've seen it tonight. Yeah, we'll see what
happened last night? How was it? It was fine? Yeah,
that's what I'm That's what I'm thinking too. I think
it's more about the representation than the film itself. But

(16:36):
m yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean like something about
like where I am in my media consumption. But I'm
just like, oh, this is nice that like now we're
doing like a rom com with a majority Asian casts
are like entirely Asian cast. Um, But it's like it
still felt like weird. I don't know how to explain it. Like,
so I went with my brother, my younger brother. I

(16:57):
have two. I went with one of them and with
my partner and my youngest brother. Was like, man, I've
never seen so like such white Asian people before in
my life. Like they're all Asian, but like because in
the film a lot of them had gone to like
prep school in the UK theoretically, so they all have
English accents besides the Constance Wu and her mom character,
so they're all like these colonized Asians speaking like the

(17:20):
Queen's English um. And I mean it was fun at all,
but because I had read so many like hype tweets beforehand,
where Asians were like dying over it. There, Like I
cried like five minutes in and I couldn't stop crying,
and I was like really, I mean like I'm yes,
and I was super cry and I just wasn't like
feeling in on that level. I don't know if it's

(17:41):
because I went in with some other feelings, but I
definitely understand representation matters because that's like a first step
towards you know, wider acceptance, except etceter or whatever. And
I'm not trying to say that this movie needs to
do a lot of work, because it's just this one movie.
And I think the problem is that, like there hasn't
been movies like this, but in a way, there have
been movies like this, right, like The Namesake, which is
about a South Indian family or South Asian family who

(18:04):
were Indian um and then there was like Better Like Tomorrow,
which has about been to like suburban like mostly male
East Asian kids, but like there have been movies where
they were like a majority Asian casts. But there's something
about this movie and how like it's like so capitalist
e and how it's being upheld in this very specific
way that like kind of that I just don't I
don't know, I'm not Yeah, I'm not vibing with it,

(18:26):
and I feel bad. Yeah, well no that's how I was,
you know, because I feel like a lot of people
from Singapore were definitely vibing because they're like a lot
of the cultural touch points were very relevant to people
in Singapore. And I think I'm excited that we're looking
at a film like this that's got an Asian cast
and we're moving in that direction. But yeah, I think
it has to be a first step to then begin

(18:47):
telling I think spreading the diversity of stories out a
bit too from here, I think the first one, uh,
it shouldn't be too bad, but we'll see. I'm gonna
see it tonight. I didn't grow up crazy rich, so
I hope from that point it's not too abstract. But
I think at the very least, it's nice to see
familiar faces on the screening. Before that, I help feeling.
I was just like, man, of all the feelings that

(19:09):
I've been feeling after watching this, I just feel so
fucking poor, my overwhelming feeling. I'm like, I feel so poor,
and I feel like I don't have a strong jawline,
Like my face isn't right because like the Asians and
this one also look a very specific way, like the men,
oh my god, like people are like women, especially babies
are like man, the female gaze in this film is
like so extraordinary. But I'm like, so what it's just

(19:31):
like some packs, like I don't just six packs. You know,
I get it, But it's also like, well, what is this?
Why are we so into things that we criticize when
it's like white folks, you know what I'm saying. But
then like when it's just because it's like being embodied
by Asian folks and we're like all for it. I mean,
I want this movie to do well. I wanted to

(19:52):
like funk up the box office. I heard that it's
like it's gonna do great, and I wanted to do well.
But I'm just kind of underwhelmed. Ye mean, it by
its nature, the whole accomplishment here is that it is
a mainstream movie that is going to get wide release.
And inherently mainstream movies have certain things, certain things that

(20:12):
go along with them, like that every character is good
looking and usually like wealthy and uh yeah, like better
Like Tomorrow is a really good movie. But you know,
I don't know too many people who saw it, but
the director of that has gone on to have like
a huge, amazing career. Well, you're gonna love my film
that's coming out called Ugly Broke Biracial People. It's gonna

(20:35):
it's it's gonna resonate with people. Awesome. We're gonna take
a quick break, we'll be right back, and we're back,
And Jason Kessler is back in the news because his

(20:58):
white supremacist march did not go as planned. They budgeted
for four hundred people, They had the security for four
hundred white supremacists and Uh. I think twenty something showed up. Uh.
So he's also back in the news because there's this
great chat between him and a fellow Nazi where they

(21:19):
start out talking about, you know, anti Israeli stuff. It's
just you know, I think it's being Nazi spoilerplate Nazi
hang out and uh and then it gets interrupted here
we I think we have some audio being with the
box crosses on their chest as Dr Duke flakes to
point out is Jewish the breaking houses are in Israel. Hey,

(21:42):
I'm sorry, I'm here. You got a drunk roommate there,
something like that, something like that. So then his dad
just goes on to be rate him. He has to
like get out of the shot, like go away from
the stream to argue with his dad who's mad at
him for Nazi. Yeah. This is a very familiar genre

(22:06):
video for me, which is someone being cool on a
web stream and the parent comes in and just like, yo,
what you're doing the games in here again? Like kind
of thing where this one it was like, are you
doing that Nazi crapping here? Get out of my room, dad.
I don't do Nazi stuff. It's so fucking wagged, dude
that I mean I'm not to shame anybody who lives
at home, there's no My issue with this isn't that

(22:28):
he lives at home. But this is a man who
organized Unite the Right rally and Charlottesville last year, and
he's on this fucking live stream bitching about whatever Jews
I guess in this case um and his dad comes
in and clearly is like not happy about what his
son has become in some whether he knows or not

(22:49):
that his you know, believes that his son is a
cool Nazi or not, who knows, I mean, but he
does go on to say like, yeah, they watch a
lot of History channels, so you know they've been brainwashed
into like, you know, just zis are bad thing. Watch
the whole clip because it's cringe e to watch this
guy like Jason Kellsler try and act as if he can.
He just can't say, hey, my dad's tripping, like he

(23:10):
was like I have an Orthodox So he's like trying
to sort of talk to his dad, like frame him
in a weird way that he wants it to seem
like he's more dangerous and like more in it than
he really is. So he's like, yeah, there's I actually
have an orthodox guy here getting mad at and then
he's finally like, yeah, that's my Dad's my dad, So

(23:32):
he lives at home. He lives at home, and I
know he's from Charlottesville. So was he organizing a new
rally in Charlottesville? He was trying to and then it
trying to turn to the d C thing and then
that just frizzled out. But yeah, this is from June. Apparently,
this this interaction from whenever they were streaming to each other,
and you know, he goes on afterwards, he's like yeah,

(23:53):
you know, he's like, well, you know the reason I'm here,
Like he eventually has to explain why he's living at home,
and like he's he's blaming get on the fact that
people are suing him for the violence of last year's
Unite the Right rally where Heather Higher was killed. So
he's trying to act like, you know, they're trying to
get you know, it's legal bills. So that's why I'm here.
What he calls them cux At one point his own

(24:14):
parents they're letting you live there, my man. And then uh,
Patrick Little's like, hey, I get it, man. Shlomo is
trying to probably gonna find a way to evict me.
That's why I'm on my boat right now in case
it goes out. It's like, okay, wow, so blame everybody
except for yourselves, because your racism has led you to
a point where you are unhirable and even like online

(24:37):
like e commerce sites like PayPal or whatever won't let
you do business on there because they're not trying to
help you get any kind of money from anyone. So
it's nice to see that there are financial repercussions for
your you know, being an out natzi. It just seems
really unwise to like call your parents names when they
could easily just find that clip of them of like

(24:58):
you calling them a cuck. I was his dad. I'm like,
let me google my stupid son, let me in my
house because he's such a fucking whites Fremis at music
called me and he called somebody did I let me
google him? And oh my god, he called me a
fucking cook. Like I'd be like like using my WiFi
to the broadcast your stupid videos and you're gonna call

(25:18):
it like and then and then he probably has to
look at what a cook is the dad, right, and
then he's gonna be like, he's like, who's having sex
with my wife? Hell yeah? And then he like brings
Jason into like talk to both him and his wife,
be like tell him what you called me? What's going on? Helen? No? Wait, no,
if you forget it, Dad doing that Nazi crap. But yeah,

(25:41):
I mean apparently, yeah, Patrick, little Richard Spencer, you know,
he had to move back home. You have to Montana
because they just being a Nazis in a job skill
and it actually makes you unhirable. So you know, reconsider
your values are your philosophical perspective, because now I'm feeling
bad for their parents, and I don't want to feel
bad for their parents to have to take in their

(26:02):
misfit white supremacy sons. Yeah. I mean it's just so fun.
I mean he's what an entitled piece of ship that
he is to like already, Like it makes it makes
sense you would have this mentality of like talking ship
to your parents that are letting you back, and like
also being a white supremacist who's blaming everything on everything else,
right and just being like, oh, it's Muslims, it's blacks,

(26:23):
it's Jews, it's uh. I could have got a job,
but whatever. I don't know. Yeah, he's got a lot
to blame on other people because his life isn't going
great right now. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, victimhood
is their deal speaking of right wing people who are
being persecuted. Alex Jones is still banned from all the

(26:46):
social media platforms, and the right wing is trying to
tell themselves that it hasn't hurt him, and in fact
it's helped him because people are going to his website
to find him. Um, we talked about this briefly last week,
but I actually there's an article that's been you know,
near the top of Drudge for like the past week

(27:06):
where they talk about how like he can't be stopped,
and uh, it's written by these I see a lot
of articles like this in you know journalism now where
they don't really know what how web traffic works. Uh.
They talk about how his website gets a hundred million
page views in a month and like that's a sign

(27:30):
that he's like the biggest thing. That's like a third
of what we were getting at Cracked Women. We were
doing well, but that's it's like not that much. It's
like page views is like really easy to exaggerate if
you make people like click through to something like that.
And I don't know, it just seems like they're like, see,

(27:52):
look at him, he's a dominant cultural force. And it's like, no,
like that's not that many page views. You sign it
like a like a media organization. It's like CEO, like
that's just not enough, Alex. That's what I've been telling them.
We need videos for half the price. So I should
say I do advise Alex Jones on a few things.

(28:14):
It's the video, I mean, And all you gotta ask yourself,
is this stuff scaling as you say? And when in
the tent bizz the content bizz. If it doesn't scale,
throwing the garbage pail. So I can't believe that they're
really still trying to act like, oh, don't worry, he's
on top babies in the lab. But don't worry. This
man isn't. I mean, just go to his website all
the neutraceuticals. It's like a fire sale right now. It's

(28:36):
off all that you know, official snake oil that he's
selling sleeping giants, basically putting him out of business. Yeah,
and he's you know, good riddence to you. Guys. Yeah, um,
so we wanted to talk a little bit about the
me Too movement man guzz because I don't know, it

(28:57):
seems like we're at a point where things are sort
of the the energy behind it as it relates to
the mainstream, it's sort of waning. Like some information came
out about less Moon vest where people keep like quoting
the fact that he was forcibly kissing and touching people
at work. But the article, if you read the article,

(29:18):
it's pretty clear that he like harmed people's careers in
pretty significant ways because they wouldn't have sex with him
in his office, Like it's really just the most power.
But yeah, it's exactly textbook abusive power. And they didn't
do ship like CBS is just like yeah, but he's,

(29:39):
you know, well there is pretty important, I think to
their in their defense, he's like, well, the investigation is
still ongoing. So we end by that, we mean, we're
just looking at our revenue stream, right as long as
that is increasing, we'll just have to hold our noses
and go with this. But yeah, that was an interesting
moment because six months ago, that story, for any any

(29:59):
other executive would have probably been clearly the company if
their values were in line with the rest of the world,
they'd be like, yeah, no, no, no, we're we can't
have this here. But yeah, this is sort of like
I think the moment too when we even talked on
the show, or like like, what's are we having a
moment here where it's waning or is this one of
those odd situations where CBS is merely doing it because

(30:20):
less Moonvez compared to Harvey Weinstein, the crimes may be
less severe, but his importance to the business end of
the company is too important. Yeah, I mean people when
Harvey Weinstein went down, people were saying, yeah, well, the
other reason he went down is because Harvey Weinstein like
isn't at the peak of his career anymore, Like he
hasn't made that many hits recently. So less Moonvest is

(30:43):
maybe uh sign of what would have happened if he
was at the peak of his career, because less moonvest
is still you know, turning out those hits. First, I
don't think admits that they are like he's done this
fucked up shit or that it is as fucked up
as we feel it is. Then they're like complicit because
there's no way like CBS didn't now. So it is

(31:04):
a lot about like like watching out fur their their
money there ye because if they're like, whoa, we really wow,
WHOA what's the sky with this moon vest dude? We
didn't know he was like sucking up people's career. They
wouldn't have sex with him, Like there's no way they
didn't know. And oftentimes when we hear about these cases, um,
it's like we always know that that these perpetrators and

(31:25):
the open secret things and there's and it's just I
would not be able to believe that CBS didn't hear
murmurings that like, um, he was abusing his power right
And even in that story, they also talked about how
he was also shielding people at CBS News to who
were engaged in some ship. Fair does a really good
job in the article talking about how a, when you

(31:46):
have somebody like that at the top, it creates a
culture of permissiveness like throughout and they talk about sixty
minutes they're like sort of lynchpin CBS News program and
how they're multiple people there who have you know, just
been extremely problematic and to work with them, they've just
been you know, the people who accused them of being

(32:07):
inappropriate are the ones who get moved out of the
company as opposed to the people who are doing the
shitty stuff. And then there's also the head of one
of their sub networks. I think it was, I forget
which network it was, but it was like true or
something like that was also really really bad and it

(32:28):
was allowed to go on for a long time, because
that's just a thing like people find shipped out when
you work at a company where the number one person
is a fucking you know, sexual deviant predator, sexual predator,
and so if they get rid of like this laws dude,
then they'll have to get rid of like all these
other people. Yeah. Well it's an interesting thing too, because

(32:48):
I'm sure if you work at CBS less Moonvez is
probably the person who gave you, like if you're high up,
like if you have a show, you've had to have
interacted with them, and it's I'm sure on some level,
people like well they can protest too by saying like
I don't feel comfortable at this network. If this is true,
then this is the person running the company. This is
in line with my values that now you have other

(33:09):
people facing like other secondary existential crises of like this
is the person that did it? Do we what do
we say? What do you? Those are the forces that
allow these people to keep on doing what they do
because everything is so connected and a lot of the
times people's livelihoods depend on it. But yeah, looking at
these lists of people who are still talking like they're
gonna come back, it's pretty pretty interesting. So Chris Hardwick

(33:32):
did come back. He was re hired as the host
of The Talking Dead because nobody else can talk about
dumb show about zombies battling people. So you need him.
I mean, that's one in a million skills, So they
brought him back. Casey Affleck is currently out there promoting
a new movie, which but he never fully faced any

(33:54):
kind of reckoning. He it just got hot for him.
It wasn't like, hold on a second, we're talking every
thing just sort of like I think I must skip
the oscars because to ship kind of making it hot,
that's not like, you know, it wasn't like an full
on ouster, right, And he's admitted to contributing to an
unprofessional and unprofessional environment dates, which is a pretty gentle

(34:15):
way of describing that a woman basically accused him of
attempted rape. She he like grabbed her and tried to
scare her into sharing a hotel room with him. So
it's pretty fucked up. The head of FX recently said like, man,
I really miss Louis. You guys, you know, and I
don't know that people are pointing to mel Gibson as

(34:37):
a way. I mean there's also like Charlie Rose has
been rumored to be making a return with a show
where he specifically interviews other men who have been me
too essentially and called Matt lower is apparently thinks he's
going to be able to make it come back. Does

(34:58):
he did? He not even read the stories about about
his doctor Evil Layer where he could have had a
trap door and ship. Yeah. I feel like with Matt Lawyer,
people just they already didn't like him, Like people had
a sense, like you could tell he was a fucking shitty,
slimmy dude, and then like once this happened, Matt Lawar
would be the one I would be most skeptical has
any chance of making a return. But I told him

(35:19):
about that trap door think and they were like, dude,
it's just for like convenience. You don't want to get
up all the time to lock your door why are
you locking your door all the time. I was like
the funk. Oh no, I'm like this is an evil button.
They're like, no, it's a convenience thing, so you don't
have to get because he's like, I'm sure Matt Loward's
office is so big. It's like cross, Like again, what
do you need to lock your door? A man? When

(35:44):
I was a kid, I didn't even have a lock
on my door because my friends like that. But if
I ever had my door closed, it's because I was
masturbating or weighing drugs. Yes, yeah, So it's never like hey,
we're doing both. Yeah exactly. I was like, I'm playing
Need for speed Hopper suit the door locked. It was like, man,
some ship in there. You tell you when you have
the door locked, unless you're at home and you're doing

(36:04):
it for your own protection, you're up to some ship.
So Vox actually wrote an article about how people are
using mel Gibson's return to the mainstream as sort of
the roadmap for coming back, and it seems like that
makes sense because when you think about it, mel Gibson
he never addressed that in any satisfying way. The fact

(36:26):
that he was like remembered you know, saying anti Semitic
things and being like horribly abusive to his significant other,
like on the phone, like just a scary motherfucker. And
so they said, like, here is what people are probably
gonna do. First of all, they are going to refuse
to discuss their past behavior and interviews, which is what

(36:49):
Mel Gibson basically got away with. He just would always
be like that's behind us now. And then he also
got his friends to defend him, which is something that
we really should not, you know, stand for anymore. But
like I think Jodie Foster is like Mel Gibson's best
friend and was always just like, yeah, mel is mel
is really funny. You guys just need to get to

(37:09):
know him. And then he waited for a while so
that things did, like a few smaller movies, and then
he reintegrated himself first as a director so we didn't
have to like see him. He made that war movie
Haxaw Ridge, and then eventually like he got nominated for
an Oscar and people saw him at the Oscars and

(37:31):
like he laughed at a joke that was made about him,
and that was apparently enough. I just I remember that preview,
the it was just the Daddy's home to preview. The
trailers structured where it's not just that like he's incidentally
appearing in it. It's like we see John Lithgal is
revealed as Will Ferrell's dad and they're really silly, and
then there's like dramatic tension about who Mark Wahlberg's dad

(37:54):
is going to be and it's revealed in this like
badass like rock video slow motion to be like the
coolest guy Mel Gibson, and it's just like it's like
he's back, baby. It was like, what the fuck? I
remember that trailer came out. I think we even talked
on the show. We're like, oh, you're you're back, right,
somebody lets you back in? And they yeah, they almost

(38:16):
leaned into it a little bit in the trailer. So
I liked the first one too. It was it was
a sleeper kind of a good movie. I did not
realize until you know, I always check Amazon Prime. I'm like,
what do I get with my Prime? That's on my
list of movies that producer an A. Hosnie has said
our secretly better and she's one for one because she
told me The House with Will Ferrell and that movie

(38:40):
is mostly stupid but it has one moment that made
me laugh harder than I've laughed at anything and like
a year. So if people want to know what that is,
asked me on Twitter. Asked me on Twitter. But yeah,
I just the other thing too is I think this
tactic of mel Gibson being able to not talk about
his past that pends on the press not asking him

(39:01):
or pressing him enough to make him talk about it.
And the other fucking tricky thing is, especially in this town,
publicists are the ones who are gonna give you access
to these people that are going to give you the
access you need to be able to pitch a story
or sell your access to make money as a journalist.
And if you go in there talking hot and pressing
the talent about you know, their past acts and transgressions,

(39:24):
it's a risky move for a journalist. And I think
that's the other thing too that we have to kind
of realize, like we have to create space like publosist
also to be like, hey, bro, someone might ask you
something like this and I can't stop that, and maybe
you should answer that. But I have a feeling because
money runs everything in this town, it'll be easy for
people to go in and not talk about anything and

(39:45):
not have anyone pressed them about like, oh, what this
is a quick comeback for you? You know, like that
would be the first if I saw Luis k back
on the show and I was like a journalist, first
question off top is so that was quick coming back.
What do you think? What do you attribute this to?
I mean, do you feel that you deserve to be
back after all that you've done for I'm not here
to talk about my past as the thing as I'm
here because I think it's very relevant to the system

(40:07):
that we're operating in, because I don't know who the
fox said you should come back. Speaking of systems, I
think our new movie really attacks a system now, I
mean that's what's the disheartening. But like even though less
Moon Vez isn't gonna be like getting consequences from his actions.
It's like, even if he did face consequences from his action,
he can just come back very easily, like with his

(40:27):
career intact and still make hell of money, um on,
you know, without facing anything like that's like a lifelong consequence.
I think that like the fallout was like men Ghazi
and um all these men like you know, being found
out for being the big fucking creepers that they are.
Is that like not only it's not just important just

(40:48):
to call him up, but to see like what their
consequences truly are. Like they're away from the limelight, but
like they're away from the limelights, sitting on their piles
and money they made while they're harassing and like, um,
like abusing people. Um. I mean like if if if
I already be found out to be like a serial predator,
but I had made millions of dollars doing it, I'd
be like, oh, this is a great time for a vacation.

(41:09):
I actually wanted this break. Now I don't have to
make excuses for why I don't want to do this
other movie and then just write it out and then
you know, be like a Mel Gibson and come back
and everybody, everybody forget about it. I keep making my
truckloads of money because in the end, it is just
about money and people's jobs, which is like so fucking disheartening,
and it's I guess it's in a way, it's up
to like consumers who people who consume this art to

(41:31):
be like I'm not going to work with your art
because like I think you're a bad person, so you
have nothing to come back to. But I don't know
if if as consumers were at that point yet. I mean,
some of us are like because I think that we
talked to each other in this like weird echo chamber
where we're like, we marry each other's thoughts and feelings
about this ship. So we're not going to work with
Luisy k anymore. But I think that like the wider

(41:51):
w I d R audience, will you know, he can't.
I can totally see him making it come back and
this would just be a blip in his career. I
think at the very least, the studios need to be
like for us to allow you to come back into something,
give us some kind of an apology that shows some
ounce of self awareness, self reflection that isn't I'm sorry
I contributed to an unprofessional workplace, like really really show

(42:15):
the world that you understand what you did, why you
were operating in that way, and how you're trying to
not perpetuate that kind of culture anymore. At the very least,
because most of these people, I think that's why Dan
Harmon was people were was very easy to look past
because like, wow, this person was very self aware like
I was a fucking, like really well thought out inward

(42:35):
reflection in that have to even look past it because
it seemed like he was working, like he didn't try
and skip over it. Yea. And I think that's what
you need, and because it's it's dangers to have a
world to where people can't make mistakes and and then
you can never recover from that, because we have that
with our our fucking criminal justice system in this in

(42:57):
a sense, so I think in some way, I've depending
on the severity of what your crimes are, transgressions that
you that we have. You have to show people that
you're you're doing something different, not just hey, I took
time out and you saw that that quote unquote apology
I wrote where I said I refer to my penis
as a dick. All right, Louis Like, yeah, come on.

(43:18):
I mean, at the same time, it's one thing to
ask me to stop watching Louis, but two broke girls,
I mean that CBS, Yeah, one, stop watching Big Bang Theory. Yeah,
I mean, it really is like, what are you about
as a society, like vote with your behavior? You know,
the CBS stock went down, but it didn't go down
that far. And it's just still at a pretty high level.

(43:41):
It went down like four points, like that's I don't know,
the ratings need to go down before the people who
actually make those sorts of decisions start worrying about SHIP. Yeah,
because I think the way people right now, like it
seems like racism xenophobia is kind of starting to resonate
with people that that's a bad thing, because you can
tell with people boycotting advertisers on Fox, that's been like

(44:04):
a pretty focused attempt at correcting behavior through boycotting. It's
and yeah, it's I mean, it's fighting racism. So in
right now, it's like the hottest, hottest advocacy right now.
But yeah, I think we have yet to reach that
moment with the sexual predatory behavior, rape culture, etcetera. We're
just hasn't quite reached that tipping point that much broader

(44:26):
group of consumers are saying, yes, we have to reject
this and do something about it. And even racism, ship
is really not Look at Trump, bro who knows? Who knows? Alright,
we're gonna take a break right back and we're back.

(44:51):
And Miles, you noticed something about these heartwarming stories. There's
human interest pieces many heartwarming stories. And I'm so glad
because we live in such a dark world, as you
know that last segment shows us. But it's great to
go around the internet and see stories being shared of
co workers really fighting for each other. And you know,
if I was seeing more and more things of you

(45:12):
read stories about coworkers like pulling money together to pay
for a colleague's medical treatment, um or donating their vacation
days to extend someone's parental leave or or maybe end
of life care for a parent, and everyone's spinning these
these acts of altruism. There's they're just reaffirm, you know,
our our faith in humanity. And really, these are fucking

(45:34):
heartbreaking stories where these people in our country are being
fucking failed by our health care system. Are just general
care system of care in this country is completely broken down.
And I mean, I guess, of course the generosity of
someone else be like, yes, let's put our money together
to help this person in need. Let's put our vacation

(45:54):
time together so this woman who has just given birth
doesn't have to come back to work after two weeks
because you only get paid two weeks off or whatever.
The thing I just wish is I wish these stories
were presented at an angle of like, we are fucking
behind as a country and we're fucking up, not Oh
my god, isn't it so nice that regular people are
footing the bill for like wealthy corporations or our fucked

(46:16):
tax system. So, for example, this was something like a
couple of weeks ago on Good Morning America. Obviously you're
not going there for like woke commentary or scathing cutting
analysis of our society, but like, just the way this
story was shared kind of rubbed me a little bit
the wrong way out of what new way. Employees are
rallying around their expecting coworkers helping them take maternity lead

(46:39):
by donating their own vacation time. Love this maybe ses
we're Becca Jarvis is here, but more that Hey Robin,
good morning. Yeah that's right. One in four moms is
going back to work just two weeks after giving birth.
We're the only country in the developed world without a
paid family leave policy. And now the employees of one
company showing some extreme generosity Angela's Boston coworkers, instead of

(47:02):
buying items for her off a registry, gifting their own
relatively new coworker their own time off. It was the
right thing to do, and I had the time, and
I wanted to I wanted to give her what I
could and if it made life a little bit simpler
for and then why wouldn't I do that? I mean, wow.

(47:25):
Granted in the story they do point out what the
deficiencies are in our system that have led to this behavior,
but it's still like, isn't this great? Isn't this person
so nice and kind? And yes they are, but it's
it's but it's it's completely you're betraying what the facts are,
and the facts are that we are not prioritizing this
kind of time off or care for our citizens, whether

(47:46):
it's you know, we're the we're the only country where
people are going go into massive debt because they have
medical bills. And as they said, it's only US and
one other country that doesn't have like mandated paid time
off for parents. You know, the other country is Papua
New Guinea. Everybody else has this. And I mean, like,
our tax system is built in a way that we're
not taxing people to the levels where we can create

(48:09):
the revenues to subsidize programs that would be like, hey, yeah,
we need to have like maybe universal daycare something, so
if you have a child, you can still work and
have your child taking care of and be able to
spend time with them. Like in Sweden they get sixteen
months of paid leaf paid after birth. That's not even that.
Like you posted the a chart that shows the number

(48:31):
of mandated days off that people have to get, and
like Estonia is at the top with eighty seven weeks
of paid leave, Sweden's in the middle. It's below Germany.
New Zealand is even above. The only country in the
developed world that has zero weeks of mandated paid leave
is the United States. And it's really frustrating to see

(48:53):
because there are only benefits to having this thing, whether
it's quality of life for the parents to be around
their children when they're at their youngest. There's a lot
studies that show that parents who come back after like
a full on parental leave come back much more productive
and much happier. And the idea that parents have to
stress about, oh, you do you have a new member
of your family and then you're gonna just eat two

(49:14):
months of you know, your salary because you don't have
paid time off is really really disheartening. And yeah, I mean,
like just in other countries too. There's a lot of
places that have like subsidized daycare facilities that are open
from six thirty in the morning to six thirty at night,
so you don't have to worry, because we've already seen
the cost of what child care even costs for you
to have a job and have to have a child

(49:36):
being taken care of so you can work. And we've
just we're enough really really terrible rat race in this country.
And I just want to I just want to bring
this up because that fucking tax system reboot rework that
happened in December was such a violent redistribution of wealth
that is only contributing to this kind of system where

(49:57):
working people are just going to have to work themselves
to death and not be able to have any semblance
of like a healthy, emotionally fulfilling life with their families
or just on their own where they can feel that
they're taking care of or if they're vulnerable and sick,
that you're not going to lose everything. I don't know
if it's so much that work or we're not being
taxed enough, but like how our taxes are being used
right like because we get tons, like trillions of dollars

(50:19):
of using defense and then like are using like homeland
security or use it. Yeah, just like to do other things.
But so we don't prioritize our our our government doesn't
prioritize our own care of our own like our own beings.
And it's like kind of like the ultimate gas lighting, right,
It's like they made us feel as if we don't

(50:41):
deserve this time off, so that like our coworkers, so
that when they do, like give us a vacation day
so we can take a maternity leave, it feels like, Wow,
we did something good. That's why it's supposed to feel
like I feel a good things because we've been taught
that we don't deserve it. It's like back to work
after two weeks after you've given birth. Like sometimes I
take a good poop and I have to lay down,
you know what saying I can't. I can't imagine like

(51:02):
like giving birth and then like having a child ripped
out of you and then having to be standing up
or going doing anything that doesn't involve laying down after
two weeks. That's wild to me. Yeah, there's a stigma
with getting help you know this country too. Yeah, the
things that America lacks and ignores. It's really stuff for

(51:24):
like you were talking about, like long term health of
our society, like just having parents who can spend time
with their kids who aren't like completely stress the funk out,
Like that's that's just like seemingly minor things that have
reverberations like far far down the road are you. Everyone
has had a stressed parent, and even as a kid,

(51:44):
you don't know what exactly is causing your parents stressed,
but you feel that as a child, and it can
create chaos in the house and it's and it's not
even like them expressing. You just feel that ship like,
oh ship, mom or Dad is stress the funk out.
And now I don't I feel bad because I don't
know if it's about me or whatever. And I think,
like you said, Amy, we're in that stage of this

(52:04):
American empire basically collapsing, where we're so focused on everything
outside of the country that it's at the detriment to
the people within its borders. So again we look at
the stock buybacks. We give tax cuts to these corporations.
Oh yeah, we'll give raises. No, we'll just buy back
stock to increase stock price and reward shareholders. And things
like that. Imagine that money going to subsidizing people's time off,

(52:27):
you know, to have time with their parents. And the
companies that do actually even subsidize that time off, they're
usually in like professional sectors and not really accessible to
the general population working workforce out there who would really
need it. Not to mention that dumb fucking totalitarian dick
measuring contests that he's gonna do Trump that military parade

(52:47):
they just released, Like what the new budget is gonna be.
It's gonna cost ninety two million dollars if this happens.
If that happens, we're gonna spend two million dollars to
run some tanks through DC and and somehow and really
show the rest of the world how you know how
much Americans you have to be so pathologically just unempathetic

(53:09):
to not like these policies are being made by these
people who at least no people have been in the
same household with people who have given childbirth, Like it
is so dramatically like traumatic, the like two weeks out
your body is still like you should be in a

(53:29):
hospital bed, like you should not. It's the idea of
going back to work, like after two weeks is completely
fucking insane. I just I can't imagine these people who
are putting this policy into place, Like are they just
are they just like alright, honey, wall see you in
like three months, like after you're healed up. Like what
I don't I don't understand unless they just don't think

(53:52):
women should be able to work. It's, you know, a
capitalist patriarchy. Yeah. Sorry, it wasn't that long ago that
like people literally thought that, like women shouldn't walk upstairs,
you know what I'm saying, because there's the risk of
them falling downstairs and then like the room would fall
out of them. You know who are like they should
have riding trains because like going faster than fifty miles

(54:13):
per hour, well like jiggle your womb out and then
and then you would like and then your body would
like combust. I mean, it literally wasn't that long ago.
So I'm the last one is not true. I was
not familiar. I mean I've written in vehicles traveling faster
than didn't come. No, I don't think it may have
dislodged a little, But all right, Amy, it's been a

(54:35):
pleasure having you. Where can people find you? Follow you?
I'm on twitters at I'm on twitter dot com at
Amy Doisy. That's a M y A d o y
z I E I welcome. I welcome all followers. Even
if you're gonna troll me one day, I'll just mute you.
It's all good. It's all good. And is there a

(54:58):
tweet that you have been in? Joe? So, in the
publishing lit world, people are sharing their favorite rejection stories.
So this writer I don't know him, but his name
is Mark Leaner at Mark Leaner l e I d
n e r m A r K sorry m A
r k l e I d n E r um.
He said that I once rejected my own short story

(55:20):
from a magazine I was guest editing. The magazine had
a blind submission policy, and I didn't recognize the story
as my own and forgot i'd submitted it months before
I was asked to guess edit the issue. And he
has whole threat about how he read this piece thought
it was garbage even And I actually think this is
unethical because he says that he like screen grabbed a
portion of the acts of like the submission and like

(55:41):
tweeted it being like, look, how terrible this writing is,
and I was like, what the fuck? And it turns
out that the passage that he screen grabbed and tweeted
was like something that he took from that short story
and put in his new novel. And he had to
go to his editors and say, you guys, like, uh,
I need to take this paragraph out of my mode
because I fucked up. I didn't realize that I was

(56:02):
making fun of my own writing, and you gets have
to take this paragraph out. And his editor was like, no,
this is one of the best paragraphs in your novel.
And then the best part about this threat is at
the very end he talks about how the advantace that
he got on that novel was so much that now
he owes the I R s A hundred and seventy

(56:23):
five hundred thousand dollars. I don't know if this threat
is real, because this seems like really ludicrous, like I've
written terrible hot ship, but like, I don't know why
I could forget what I wrote in it that I
would like screen drive and shane myself and then oh,
like almost two. I mean, also, that's a hell of
an advance. So I don't know. I don't know this guy,
but this is a very amusing threat that I'm super
into right now. That's crazy. There's so many crazy stories

(56:47):
about people just conveniently forgetting where they found some idea
and you know, stealing it. But a lot of the
time it does seem like they just don't realize they're
doing it anyways, myles, Oh me, Oh Miles. You can
find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
and I'm you know, I love the Reductors tweets because

(57:09):
this one really got me. This It's a fucking picture
of a cobra and it says a woman owns snake.
Just yo, we're all the snake owning ladies out there.
But yes, you know, short and sweet shout out to Reductors.
I like to tweet by Aquatina. She tweeted, buy my
tickets too, crazy Rich Asians Opening day tomorrow, where I

(57:32):
will show up at a nondescript theater and recite all
my lines at the screen while eating an entire Costco
chicken Oh twenty five years baby, Let's show them how
much this matters. Delicious Costo chicken man, Impossibly. You can
find me on Twitter at Jack under Squirrel. Brian. You
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We also putt post those in the description of the episode.
That's where we link off to the information that we
talked about in today's episode, as well as the song
we ride out on mylef, what's second? Okay, because it's
you know, Aretha, we gotta play a song. I want

(58:13):
to play I Never Loved a Man the Way I
Love You? But uh, the demo version, so this is
I like this version because it's the moment where they go, yo, okay,
Aretha's got it is about to be a hit. Uh.
This was, you know, really one of her first big
hits on Atlantic, and from the second they did the demo,
they got this whole thing fucking tracked and put down

(58:34):
in twenty minutes. So shout out to you, Aretha, rest
and pe stand enjoy this track I Never Loved a
Man the Way I Love You the demo, the demo,
the demo we're gonna write out on that. We will
be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talks yes,
it did that rocking thing, y'all. No good, heartbreaker. I

(59:21):
have a cheese and I don't know why I'll let
you do these things to me. My friends keep telling
me there you ain't no good. Well, oh they don't know.

(59:41):
I'll leave you if I could. I guess some I'm
a tight and I'm stuck like glue. Well I ain't no, no, no, no, no,
no no love man, The win that I I love

(01:00:03):
you sometime. Uncle, I thought to you to run out
of fools. Oh I was so wrong. You got on
one that you'll never lose. Non't play. You're treating me.

(01:00:29):
You do me so bad bad. I don't know that
I'm the best thing you ever ever. So kiss me
once again and don't ever say with thru no no, no, no,

(01:00:52):
no no no no a man, The win that I
I love you. I can't sleep at night and I
can't eat a bite. I guess I will be free,

(01:01:16):
says you guys your looks and me. Why maybe someday,
real soon, and it won't be long. You're gonna wake

(01:01:37):
up and find that your baby is gone. But if
you don't want a call, get up your telephone, and
oh you can batch your baby. Then I came or
running more so you know, and you know just feel

(01:02:03):
I tell no, no, no, no, no, no lod Man
ware that I I love you. Ah. I said no, no, no,

(01:02:26):
no no, I ain't never love a man in a
way that I love you, lo

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