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October 20, 2025 45 mins
In this powerful interview, Rebecca Zung and Dr. Ingrid Clayton expose the hidden trauma response known as fawning—the disease to please. Learn how people-pleasing, codependency, and boundary collapse are actually survival responses to deep relational trauma. Discover how to heal, set boundaries, and reclaim your authentic power from narcissists and toxic dynamics. What you’ll learn: The fawn response — the hidden fourth trauma response beyond fight, flight, and freeze. How fawning develops in childhood as a survival mechanism in unsafe or abusive environments. Why people-pleasers and codependents aren’t weak — they’re trauma survivors seeking safety. How narcissists exploit fawners through guilt, obligation, and fear of abandonment. The connection between fawning, complex PTSD (CPTSD), and chronic relationship patterns. Practical healing tools from somatic therapy and self-regulation to rebuild inner safety. How to identify trauma reenactment and stop attracting narcissistic or manipulative partners. Why setting boundaries and “taking up space” is not mean — it’s healthy and necessary. Steps to transform from appeasement and fear into authentic self-worth and empowerment. About the guests: Rebecca Zung – Top 1% attorney turned narcissism negotiation expert, author of SLAY the Bully, and creator of the SLAY method for reclaiming power in toxic relationships. Dr. Ingrid Clayton – Clinical psychologist, trauma specialist, and author of Believing Me, who brings deep insight into fawning, CPTSD, and somatic healing. Watch if you’re: Recovering from narcissistic abuse, codependency, or people-pleasing. Tired of always apologizing or walking on eggshells. Ready to take your power back and stop living for others’ approval. 👉 Get your FREE “Crush My Negotiation Prep Playbook”: https://winmynegotiation.com/?el=YT 👉 Download your FREE “Doc the Narc” Cheat Sheet: https://docthenarc.com/?el=YT 👉 Get your FREE “Phrases for Disarming Narcissists” Guide: https://disarmthenarc.com/?el=YT 👉 Get my book Slay the Bully: How to Negotiate with a Narcissist and Win: http://slaythebullybook.com/?el=YT 🌐 Connect with Me 💥 Website: https://www.rebeccazung.com 📘 Facebook: / rebeccazung 📸 Instagram: / rebeccazung 🎥 YouTube: / @rebeccazungesq 💼 LinkedIn: / rebecca-zung-6753893b 🐦 X (Twitter): / rebeccazung 🎧 Podcast – Negotiate Your Best Life: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... 💬 Join My Free Facebook Group: / narcissistnegotiators ___________________________________ _________________________________ Check out my FREE Live webinar, the EXPOSE THE NARCISSIST IN COURT: INSIDER SECRETS TO WIN YOUR CASE ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠RIGHT HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about the SLAY Your Negotiation with Narcissists program right here:  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://slay.rebeccazung.com/slay-it-now-a⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ___________________________________ _________________________________ For more information on REBECCA ZUNG, ESQ. visit her website ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.rebeccazung.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow her on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@rebeccazung⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!  GRAB YOUR FREE ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CRUSH MY NEGOTIATION PREP WORKSHEET RIGHT HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!  SUBSCRIBE TO ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL RIGHT HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. THIS WEEK'S SPONSOR INFORMATION:   ❤️ Shopify : Sign up for a $1/month trial period at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shopify.com/best⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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