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Avinash Kaushik — Occam’s Razor (site/home) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik
Marketing <> Analytics Intersect (newsletter sign-up) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik
AEO series starter: “AI Age Marketing: Bye SEO, Hello AEO!” Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik
See-Think-Do-Care (framework explainer) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik
Books: Web Analytics: An Hour a Day | Web Analytics 2.0 (author pages) Occam's Razor by Avinash Kaushik+1
Human Made Machine (creative pre-testing) — Home | About | Products humanmademachine.com+2humanmademachine.com+2
Tapestry (Coach, Kate Spade) (company site) Tapestry
Tools mentioned (AEO measurement):
Trakkr (AI visibility / prompts / sentiment) Trakkr
Evertune (AI Brand Index & monitoring) evertune.ai
GA4 how-tos (for your AEO channel + attribution):
Custom Channel Groups (create an “AEO” channel) Google Help
Attribution Paths report (multi-touch view) Google Help
Nonprofit vetting (Avinash’s donation diligence):
Charity Navigator (ratings) Charity Navigator
Google for Nonprofits — Gemini & NotebookLM (AI access)
Announcement / overview | Workspace AI for nonprofits blog.googleGoogle Help
Example NGO Avinash supports: EMERGENCY (Italy) EMERGENCY
Avinash Kaushik: [00:00:00] So traffic's gonna go down. So if you're a business, you're a nonprofit, how. Do you deal with the fact that you're gonna lose a lot of traffic that you get from a search engine? Today, when all of humanity moves to the answer Engine W world, only about two or 3% of the people are doing it.
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