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Time to bury the tired narrative,tired narrative and uncover stories not typically heard,
but stories that need to be heard, right or wrong, life or
death. This isn't your typical lawshow. This is Big Angry Law with

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Charles Big Angry Adams on KPRZ.Now Charles Adams, Well Anny, mean,
ladies and gentlemen, thank you forjoining me here on Big Anger Radio
nine fifty am KPRC, Real Texas, Real Talk. I had that intro
a bit loud. I got somenew equipment at the house trying to figure

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it out. I haven't been doingthe best job and for that, well,
for that, I apologize, andI will continue to do things mediocre
mediocre. Lee as I dive intothe first topic, and I think I
will sound incredibly heartless, so Iwant to frame it. I have in
my lifetime dealt with Houston's unhoused moredirectly than I think most people have.

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As a police officer, I hadone defecate in the backseat of my patrol
car. I had one bite mein, sling feces on me and everywhere
else bite me. I had onea female one get neked and throw schmegma
the right word I've never really understood, but gunky funkiness from down under onto

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the back of my freshly shorn head. I was convinced I was going to
get some sort of disease from itsseepage. We had to back when police
police, well police still police.We did it a bit more vigorously back
then. The uh just dealing withthem huffing paint and creating know, toxic

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biological waste songs behind businesses. Andit's just rampant criminality, thefts, smashing
grabs, just the awful reality ofthe unhoused. And then of course when
after raising my children and friends wouldwhere you don't have that problem. These

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friends would Galveston County and moved intothe Museum district, and well that was
when it was at its apex.Here tent villages, you know, a
few blocks down from my very expensivepenthouse, and just aggressive, monstrous.
One time a guy punched the hoodof my wife's car. I was not

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with her. I did go lookingfor him. There was another one that
slapped her side, you mirror,there were plenty that would just stand in
front of your car without my car, without moving, and well I would
confront them directly, but I justI don't have this benevolent perception of the

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overwhelming majority of our unhoused are homelesson how such a stupid word. For
the most part, they are drugaddicts who decided a life of ignoring all
the responsibilities. Many of them havechildren. To use drugs and commit crime
was preferable. Now. Some ofthem are mental health issues, but overwhelmingly

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those mental health issues are downstream fromthe over consumption of amphetamines. So a
former Houston Chronicle editor we follow eachother on Twitter, Matt Schwartz, posted
this is beyond absurd. Houston's homelesspopulation owes more than nine and a half

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million dollars in fines from tickets relatedto their homelessness. Oh, the Pearl
clutch and what you'll see whenever theChronicle and I guess he still works for
them in some capacity. Whenever theChronicle has the you know, a hot
story, it'll be a tidal waveof employees of the Chronicle pushing the narrative

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of that story as if it's notcoordinated. Conversely, I just contacted him
a few days ago about a localrestaurant tour. Ben Berg having three of
his restaurants at his corporate headquarters vandalized. He's Jewish, and of course it
was the the Shia death cult nonsenseof him being a supporter of genocide and

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they threw red pain all over hisbusinesses and did all this. Now not
political, hasn't many public statements onthe conflict in the Middle East. But
he just happens to be a Jewishrestaurant tour so he's awful. This is
the same restaurant tour that was attackedabout a year ago for opening Benny Chiles,
which was his Chinese food concept,right, because how dare he,

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as a white Jewish man open aChinese food concept? And there was protests
and it was just absolute nonsense.But anyway, so this match short's a
posted that tweet and had a linkto the article which is entitled Houston has
fined its homeless population more than nineand a half million since twenty twenty.
What do the finds do? Somehomeless individuals have received more than one thousand

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tickets for encamping, letting materials,accumulate, having a shopping cart, and
other offenses over the past two years. Past four years, many tickets are
given in the same place as repeatedlythe ticket location has been obscured for privacy
reasons. Points are within a coupleof miles of the true location. Oh
yeah, we don't want the worldto know the public spaces that have been

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taken over by the homeless. Weneed to protect the privacy of the residents
that is not their residence. Thatthey have stolen the use of the land
from citizens or landowners. But ofcourse, so it's the find one homeless
man more than what most Ustonians are. In seven years, the fines totaled

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more than two hundred ninety thousand dollars, he said. Each time Shaggy,
who asked that only his street namehe used, was issued a ticket for
and camping or living outdoors with toomany possessions. He was also fined for
a litany of other offenses, improperlydisposing of our accumulating materials, possession of
a shopping cart, obstructing a sidewalkor a road, or disorderly conduct.

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Okay, let's talk about those.So that means Shaggy had not only set
up a house on either public orprivate land that had not belonged to him,
that he was disposing of his fecesand hearine in a manner that was
not created an environment hazard, thathe had stolen a shopping cart and was

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using it, and well, Imean was blocked either a sidewalk or a
roadway, a sidewalk made for peopleto walk down, people with wheelchairs to
roll down. But the Chronicle thinksShaggy's right to take it over, and
they say, well, what elsewould he have done? This whole article

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is an op ed disguised as journalism, lamb basting the city. We're taking
action against people who are taking overportions of the city. Now, I
would assume the chronicle writer let's seewho wrote this, are a Schwitz and

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Matt is done. I'm guessing theyeither live in suburbia, don't deal with
this issue on a regular basis,or they're just pandering to the woke consumers
that dictate. I don't know,but it's insane. When we get back,
we'll read more of the article andtalk more than nonsense. Too big
angry law with Charles Adams on KPRCnine fifteen. Then I'm believing I must

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be on my way. The timeis driving. The train is going to
see you in your eyes, thelove your jars, and I'll be low

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winner and I leave your loan tosee me, so please believe me.
My heart is in your head.You know it's again. Weary and Madame

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Oh, I think we'll go.Stick's power Ballants Night, Charles Adams Big
on your radio. We're talking theunhausked and I was going through an article
published by the Houston Chronicle lambasting theCity of Houston, and more specifically,
the Houston Police Department for trying toaddress the encamp and takeovers of public spaces

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by the house by the homeless.Now, let's talk about the chronicles description
of a man named Jeff Burton.Jeff's friends from the streets described him as
a wheeler and a dealer with shoulderlingkedrocker hair, a funny man with a
knack for the unexpected. He alwayshad something to sell, much of which

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he would get dumpster diving near acar wash. People said he found cash,
sunglasses, custom grills, and Tiffanyjewelry. Let's press pause. You're
not finding cash, sunglasses, Tiffanyjewelry, and a custom grill in a
dumpster near car wash. You're findingthose things by shattering windows and going through

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people's cars. That's the truth.Now, of course you want a story
as a homeless drug addict as towhere you got the nice expensive stuff you
were selling for pennies on a dollar, So I found it in a dumpster.
You would think that reporters would belooking for the truth, but that's

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not what the chronicle does. Itpushes a narrative. And when they write
absurd things like people said he foundcash, sunglasses, custom girls, and
Tiffany jewelry. I just if youmentioned a state in conversation, he would
quickly name its capital. What agenius. Oh, in fact that the
next sentence, he had a geniusfor salvaging and tuning up bikes, which

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he'd decorate with lights. Yes,when he wasn't when he wasn't finding money
in sunglasses and jewelry and a dumpster, he was just stumbling upon bicycles.
Now, how does anyone read thatparagraph? And I think, well,
drug addle car burglar at bike thiefand of course bike theft is frustrating for

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someone with money, but for thepeople that get on a bike and ride
it to their working class job.And you know in montras we have all
these restaurant workers that you see ridingbikes back and forth. I you know,
stopped a bike thief. One time. I was stealing it from a
restaurant worker that I chased down,and I was way too old to do
it. But homeless guy right stealingsomeone's method of transportation. In that case,

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the restaurant worker buier waterburger worker wasalso mentally challenged. But so somebody
that could just be on disability wasgetting up and ride a bike to work
to make money to contribute to society, and some scumback homeless guy and he
thought he was going to get awayfrom me. At first it was kind
of jeering at me, but herealized that he was not. He threw

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the bike down and ran off becauseI think I was forty eight at times.
Four years ago, I think thatI was about to, you know.
Anyhow, So they talk about thisJeff guy who passed away apparently in
twenty twenty two under a bridge,and they interviewed his son. David said,
behind the jokes lurked his father's denialthat much of his circumstances dimmed from

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his own lack of self control.But even though he knew his father's shortcomings,
he did not believe spending taxpayer resourcesand ticketing and jailing the homeless was
the solution. Well, my questionis, well, what is the solution
for people that refuse to follow rules? Right? And we have homeless shelters,
and I'm all for a safety net, transitional housing, doing things to

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help the people that have fallen throughthe cracks and need a helping him.
I am not one of these rightwingers who just scrowump right, not in
the first world, not in thefinest shining city on the hill, not
in America, right. But I'malso not for our welfare culture of continuing

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to forever at infinite. I'm helpingthose people that don't want to help themselves,
but I'm really not for painting themas martyrs and victims the people that
are actually out here victimizing others.Clearly the guy was a car and a
bike thief, and yet the Chronicle'spainting this, this glowing portrait of this

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of this this fallen angel, andit's disgusting, And the Chronicle is largely
disgusting in their narrative. They're forcefeeding, cramming narratives down their throat,
like I had to cram medicine downmy dogs. You know, I was
making that guy, little peanut butterand jelly sand, which is a not
great gravest poisonous dog strawberry peanut andjelly semre like micro wants to put his

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little pill for his medicine in there, and after he stopped wanting to eat
it with the retisserie chicken, Iwas buying him. Frustrating. But that's
a dog that doesn't want to helphimself, not a human being. And
we see so many able bodied humanbeings that are just out there terrorizing Houston.

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And instead of the Chronicle writing anarticle talking about, hey, let's
explore these other solutions, it isjust an article attacking and it talks about
the police that wrote the most tickets, have the most overtime. Hey,
we have problems with HPD. Oneof those problems is not attacking those handful
that are actually out there doing work, and with the unhoused, with the

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homeless scourge who we spend billions onright in Texas, not like California that
spends billions and then twenty four billionjust disappears to with no known result.
We spend a whole lot of moneywith also very little results ourselves. Because

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you can't help people that don't wantto help themselves. But those that don't
want to help themselves that you canhelp despite trying, shouldn't be given a
pass to take over public space anddo whatever they want. And the chronicles
shouldn't be trying to destroy and takedown those people that are trying to return
this city to the city with outof control crime to some sort of sense

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about it, because we're going toget to the point where we're like Austin,
I mean, we're almost there.Cops don't show up, you know,
for hours and hours and hours,they don't show up at all in
Austin. Here's the culmination of thearticle. Between twenty twenty and twenty twenty
four, Houston police officers issued nearlyfifty six thousand tickets to homeless individuals.
They currently owe about nine and ahalf million in fines, though it's important

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to note that that's after the courtshave heard a sizeable number of cases and
reduce the fines to zero. Lessthan a tenth of one percent of these
tickets are paid before they go totrial. It does not appear the tickets
are a significant revenue generator for thecity, and yet police officers who write
the most tickets receive more over time, then the typical ulcer in their position

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and skip skip skip sometimes enforcement ofillegal encampments and formed an overtalk about I
mean, it's just it is condemning, and it just goes on and on
and on about how bad it isand how the ulcers write surprise tickets and
it's just this absolute takedown. Buthey, Chronicle, you know what I'd

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prefer. I'd prefer they be arrestedfor obstructing sidewalks and blocking roadways and stealing
shopping carts and breaking into cars andstealing bikes and being publicly intoxicated to the
point where it becomes such a hasslefor them that they decide to comply and

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go to the shelters and accept thehelp and get off the methamphetamine and stop
turning this city into a toxic wastepitof crime. But of course that's just
me, big angry laws with CharlesAdams on kp R C nine fifty dot

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So we're talking about the homeless problemhere in Houston and the Chronicles attempt
to take down and convince the citizensthat we must demand that HBD do less,
which seems a bit insane to me. And it all started with a
post from a former editor there,Matt Schwartz, who described himself as a

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newsman, rockhound, wise ass andone of the responses to his tweet was
Alison Cook, the horror story ofa food critic here for the Chronicle,
who wrote the stupidity comment it burnsshe it was ken Hoffman that and dinner

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with her once and then wrote anarticle about what an awful, awful person
she is, well at least awfulin her word choice in her pro But
I mean, this is this wholenew argument we should do nothing, and
I don't. I guess people don'ttry and go to Oakland. See what
happens when you do nothing. Yougo to LA but don't go to the

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nice parts because bell Air, BeverlyHills, Pacific Palisades, well, they
don't have any of those problems.That's just problems for the middle class and
the poores, right, But thepoor participatory you have to get up and
deal with it every damn day.But I want to talk about what really
set me off on this was whatis the obvious culmination of these policies of

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the of course, just the idiocyof modern progressive solution is to ignore the
problem. So I grew up inAustin. In fact, I grew up
in Northwest Austin. And while Igrew up in East Austin and then what
was considered is now probably more consideredcentral. It was a very different city

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than it was a town back thenthan the city it is now. And
I when I was a policeman,I patterned the way I policed on how
Austin police were in the eighties.They weren't super aggressive unless they perceived you
as a criminal, and there wasa lot of get your ass home.

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Hey, give me that twelve pack. I'm going to pour it out instead
of writing you this MIP ticket.Hey, y'all cut the crap kind of
policing to kids that were clearly goingto high school and just doing kids stuff.
And if kids were doing crappy criminalstuff, well then there was a

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consequence. Now Austin policing has becomesome of the worst policing in the country,
and they don't respond to crime atall, and there is this lawlessness.
But in northwest Austin on a streetI wasn't familiar with Amarilla Avenue.
It looks to be further out intothe night sparts, like I was in
the not so nice white frame houserent house, you know, very multicultural

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neighborhood parts of Austin. But Ihad friends that lived out in the beautiful
suburbs. But I looked, Idid a you know, you can see
everything on Google Maps now, andI digitally walked or you know is digitally
the word or you know on theinterwebs. I walked down that street,
beautiful but very middle class street whereyou wouldn't feel that you were going to

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get murdered for walking your dog atthree point fifty am. But that's what
happened to forty nine year old StephenMark Peterman. Well, how did he
find himself killed literally just walking install. Well, he stumbled upon a thirty
six year old William Jeweled Daniels,and they caught William Jewel Daniels because he

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left a palm print on the decedent'swork truck, the work truck that was
right near the dead guy's body.Well, why was this forty nine year
old killed, Well, because hewent out to walk his dog and found

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this scumbag in a picture of him. You know, mid thirties African American
man had shattered his window and wasstealing stuff out of his work truck.
Now, work truck usually means that'swhere you keep your tools necessary to do
your job, to make a living, to pay your mortgage, support your
family. Now, because it's Austin, I mean there's a possibility that Peterman

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went outside with his dog because heheard something and he knew that if he
called Austin police, they do notshow up. This is not hyperbole talked
to people to live in Austin.They don't respond to crime. There was
zero chance that you'd call nine toone one for a car burglary and they'll
come out and catch the burglar.They have zero interest. And that is

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a stark difference from Austin just tenfifteen years ago. There was a time
he was down there for probably twothousand and seven, two thousand and eight.
I was down there for Thanksgiving andon Thanksgiving morning we were staying in
a hotel downtown and my oldest said, who was you know? She was
in junior high I think at thetime, and said, hey, Dad,

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that guy's breaking into that car andslowed down. Sure enough, yep,
broke into it, got in,there was rifling around. I called
the police. They showed up inmoments, had a backpack full of stuff.
This how long ago? He hadall these gps they remember, the
old, the old mapping external mappingdevices that you would buy to put in

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your car before they were built intoyour screen. Had a whole bag full
of them. Non English speaker,seemed to be an entrant, but he
was going to jail that day.And when he went to trial, they
called and they are prosecuting in thewhole nine yards doesn't happen anymore in Austin.

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And it sounds like mister Peterman wentto check it out and paid with
his life because this African American manwho had probably been breaking into cars gun
in hand without any consequence for avery very long time, and what he
had when he got caught red handed. Instead of just running off, he

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said, well, you know what, I'll just kill this guy. But
that's what happens when you allow criminalsto just act without any fear of consequence.
And now there's going to be aconsequences, probably not the consequence you'd
expect. You probably won't get lifewithout the possibility of parole for killing a
man who came out and discovered himin the act of burglarizing his work drug

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they I'll probably get ten fifteen yearsunless he decides that he's crazy, and
the useless human stain of a discattorney in Austin goes along with it.
You never know, And that's theproblem in situations like what's going on in
Austin, until you're the victim ofcrime, if you're one of those that

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just drinks the kool aid, likethe kool aid they used in chronicles serving
this week of Oh though, thosepoor, poor, poor people being oppressed.
And that's not to say I mean, I've been arguing against police oppression
for decades. I'm a drug warabolitionist. But it doesn't mean that I
think people should be allowed to commitcrime just because they use drugs. I
just don't think the drug should bethe reason people are made felons. But

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if you're intoxic in public place,you most certainly need bracelets. And if
you're a drug addict, your addictionis causing problems for yourself and the world.
You need a lockdown institutionalist. Butthis guy, this Peterman guy,
he's dead in Austin PD in Austinmunicipal government is just as much to blame

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as the murderer because they've created thecity where people just can do whatever they
want and the cops don't respond,and when they do, there's no consequence.
And now the Chronicle is trying tosell that which is already you know,
cleaned of taking hold in HPD butnot as bad. And why is

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the Chronicles so antagonistic towards constables herethat actually respond to crime. Who's funding
these thing pieces? You know whatlocal billionaire who subscribes to the Soro's nonsense.
I mean, we know who itis. It's just it's all insane.
But this man is dead, andyet they still push these policies.

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We'll back you were listening you're listeningto a big angry law on kPr C.
N lor Man is putting into myrunning and I'm so far from my
horn. Oh Mama, I giveyou. You're crying. You're so sad

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and of the Lord hang Man iscoming down from the gallows, and I
don't have very long. It's finallyfound, semoy. Those things live today

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the world. No, we're talkingabout consequence free crime, which is why

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I went with sticks. I figuredwe'd end with renegade and somebody singing about
having consequences for crime. Nine am, kPr C, reel taxes, real
talk. Let's get back to whatwe're doing now. We've been talking about
you know, we started with thein house and moved to Carburgley. I

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want to talk about a sentencing.A sentencing in New York this week of
a twenty four year old Yvonne Duncanfor a twenty twenty two murder of a
seventeen year old girl named Raylan Cameron. Here's the statement from the King's County
District Attorney's office. There's the countythat the Bronx sits in this since the

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shooting took the life of a youngwoman with a bright future. Today's sentence
holds the defendant accountable for his actionsand is a measure of justice for the
victim's grieving family. Now, Javonkilled it. You know, he was
twenty two at the time he committedThe martyr African American killed an African American
seventeen year old girl. Why whybecause he was hitting on her and she

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rejected. During her victim impact statement, the mom of the victim, who
his name happens to be Cassandra Adams, no relation to me, she didn't
want him to have any mercy anddescribed her her daughter as a diamond,
a gem, a powerful force.Since this, since this crime, I

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have been broken beyond words. Noteven a guilty verdict can heal the pain.
And I will endure that. Iwill endure for the rest of my
life. There's a picture in thereporting of Raylan Cameron. Beautiful young lady.
I never dreamed of being rich,as I was already rich with having
my children, beautiful, sport intelligent, dancing diva, the phenomenal woman I

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raised her to be. That shewon't ever be the phenomenal or woman.
Please consider all the consequence of thesuffering that we as the victim and families
of the victim have gone through andcontinue to go through, just because his
grown adult male made a bad decision. This bad decision was made in October
twenty two and two at a houseparty. He hit on her. She

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didn't go for it. He's beena bit aggressive, so she told him
to suck her d. She saidthe word, and that made him mad,
so he pulled out a gun andshot her in the chest and took
off. He got fifteen years,folks, fifteen years, what'll it do?

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Seven and a half eight nine ofthem, so he'll still be in
his early thirties ready to come outand keep on criming. He's convicted of
manslaughter, not murder. How onearth? Like what is wrong with if
a jury found him guilty of thelesson included I can't find and mentioned,

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or if the Day's office prosecuted onmanslaughters? That mark what's wrong with this
world? If you get mad ata seventeen year old child when you're a
twenty two year old adult for notwanting to hook up with you, and
you then pullot a gun and shoother in the chest and kill, that's
called murder. That should be aone way ticket to the juice. All

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right, but hey, they don'tdo that in New York. How about
life in prison? What New Yorkdoes is they made sure they're going to
let him out in time so hecan go commit more murder. Let's jump
from the Bronx to Brooklyn of thefirst three letters of their burrow to get

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another murder, this time a nineteenyear old man. He was killed by
someone that went to prison for murder. Back in twenty sixteen, Shamal Capers
was convicted of the death of anotheryoung girl, Dejah Robinson. It's only

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fourteen, walking home from a sweetsixteen birthday party. Stray bullet right,
here's the story at the time.On that day, mcclinton's crony, Shamal
Capers, has allegedly pulled out ahandgun and started taking potshots of the vehicle

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is another car. She was ona bus, but they were shooting another
car. Then McClinton grabbed the weaponand continued firing. One bullet smashed a
window and hit Robinson in the head. He was trying to hit a rival
game member to settle a Facebook beef. So this guy, Chamal had his

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conviction thrown out after just eight years. Why his district attorney, Melinda Katz,
thought he had been wrongfully convicted becausea witness allegedly lied about Chamal's participation.

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But here's what we have a right. We have a guy that was
with another guy that we know shota girl on the head. While we
have some conflecting testimony, there's absolutelyno doubt about that. Now he's in
the case of the John Robinson's murder. An exhaustive investigation, newly discovered evidence
led us to conclude that Shamal Cavershad been wrongfully convicted. The court agreed

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in the conviction was vacant, andthe defendant responsible for robinson murder is in
prison serving a sentence from twenty fiveyears to life. Okay, but here's
the thing. In this rush tobe a champion of the innocent, We've
seen this time and time again inAmerica the last few years, where very

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very guilty people are wrongfully dumped intothis pod, wrongfully convicted. And while
I think we should absolutely strive toidentify those that are wrong with convicting and
get them out of prison, therewas no question that Samal was part of
the murder. We have a lawof parties in this country, gangbangers settling
a Facebook beef. It doesn't meanthe only person responsible is the one pulling

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the trigger sitting in the passenger seat. Well, because this bleeding heart need
for attention as the most woke dacats. Well, now she's responsible for
someone else's death, because this guygets out and he kills a nineteen year

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old. He was involved in themurder of a fourteen year old. But
now a nineteen year old was shotand killed, a fifty five year old
was shot, and a fifty fiveyear old took gunshot, took bullets to

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his torso and his leg, andnow the scumbag is back in prison where
he should have never left. Andthis is the thing, This is this
so worried about looking for any reasonnot to give people consequences. And if

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you're the driver of a drive bywhere a fourteen year old bystander is shot
in the head and killed, evenif you're not the trigger guy, you're
still guilty. And yet they lethim go as if he was just some
innocent guy walking down the street thatwas tugged into this by inappropriate policing.

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And when are we going to gettired of this? When are we going
to start demanding consequences for victimizers,real consequences. How do you get fifteen
years for shooting a seventeen year oldgirl point blank in the chest at a
party because she doesn't like you back? It's insane. How are you writing

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articles saying, oh, oh,the poor on house stealing stuff. Well,
they're the victims, not the peoplethey actually victimize. It's crazy. See
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