December 5, 2024 • 43 mins
(Full Show) The first signs of a Covid reckoning are here. Congressman Andy Ogles joins the show to discuss DEI in the military and why we need Pete Hegseth as Defense Secretary. Dr. Aaron Kheriaty joins Jesse to discuss the health appointments from Trump, the good and the not so good. Josh Hammer and Jesse discuss the SCOTUS hearing, Kash Patel, and potential SCOTUS replacements over the next four years.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about what they're doing to Pete hag Seth
a little bit of a reckoning. We have a congressman tonight,
we have a doctor, we have a lawyer. There's a
joke in there somewhere, but we're not going to tell that.
We're going to go to a show on our right.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So before I get to the Pete Haig says stuff
and something that's bothering me about what the GOP Senate
is doing. I just wanted to address something quickly because
it's something that is close to my heart.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Maybe it's something close to your heart.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's certainly something I've talked about a lot on this show,
and that's getting a reckoning of some kind for COVID,
meaning punishment, some sort of punishment for the people in power,
in government and otherwise for the people in power.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Who abused you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Your liberties, your rights and the name of a bad
chest cold from China. What happened to you, what happened
to this country during COVID was criminal and it was evil.
It was not okay, And we are not going to
let people get away with Well, nobody knew, I'm not
really no, no, nope, nope, no, you don't get to
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burn down the house in order to kill a cockroach.
And then when people say why did you do that, well,
no one knew. Nope, absolutely not. You don't ever, for
any reason get to tell people they don't get to
bury their loved ones, they don't get to go to work,
that it can't feed their families. That you don't get
to do that for any reason. And that was done
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in this country. This country turned into an evil dictatorship
during COVID. And look, are we ever going to get
everything that we need, that we deserve as far as
the recording goes, of course not no, we're not, No,
we're not. But I'm starting to hear things that pleased
me greatly. Remember what ram Paul said. Hear about Fauci.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We've discovered that the government is still funding Anthony Fauci.
He's retired, and yet the government spent fifteen million dollars
on him last year, providing him with an armed security
detail and a limo driver. So he's working at Georgetown supposedly.
Who knows how much they're paying him, maybe a million dollars.
We know he got a million dollars from a private foundation.
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But he has all of this money, in this great
personal wealth, and we're farring him around in a lima
driver with armed security. It's treatment we give to former presidents.
We're treating him like a former president, which is crazy
and obscene. Hopefully the Trump administration will stop that on
day one. But I also will send to the new
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Attorney General a criminal referral. We sent it twice to
Merrick Garland. In that criminal referral, we recount his testimony,
but then we also juxtapose his private emails with his testimony,
so we accuse him of lying to Congress based on
evidence from his own emails. We don't have me accusing
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him of lying. We have Anthony Fauci corroborating that he
lied by his private emails contradicting his public testimony. We
will send those again. But I think most important if
we don't ever get to a criminal prosecution, and even
more important, is that history examines and history rewards and
puts him in a pile of malefactors who basically were
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responsible in many ways for the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Obviously, we're never going to get Anthony Fauci behind bars,
at least I don't think. But at least we might
get something, and we got something else. We got something
that happened last night. Trump's pick for DEA chief was
a disaster. As you know, I've liked most of Trump's picks,
some have been mad, but his pick for DEA is awful. Well,
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it was awful in every way. Brianna Morello joined yesterday
kind of laid it all out pretty pretty clearly.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
This person.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
If you're a fan of like DEI hiring practices, your sheriff,
hanging out at the LGBT whatever gatherings these days, or
having pastors arrested, this is your guy. That's exactly what
his resume actually says. So, like I said, during the
COVID pandemic, he did have a pastor arrest. Now that
pastor is saying, oh, I've forgiven him, but that's not
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the point. The point is that he went out there,
had a pastor arrested for holding service, and then tatted
it like he was doing some reckless deed. It's insane.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Obviously there was.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
A lot of backlash due to all of that, so
he's apologized. They've become friends again, so they are all
like back to being normal. But you don't want someone
who crossed that line, the red line that I'm referring
to as the US Constitution. Okay, he had no right
to do this as sheriff. I don't care what order
existed at the time, not going to overturn the constitution
just because you're a little afraid of unknown virus that's
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going around.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So that's the big point to all of us. He also,
and this is the.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I guess sadder part to all of this, he also
emptied out his jail. Now he said it was nonviolent offenders,
but ultimately what happened was an individual who's being held
in that jail went on to actually committing murder after
he was released. Now, he allegedly did murder suspect and
had to be you know, obviously brought back into the jail.
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But he doesn't talk about any of his He ignores
it all now. Again, like I mentioned earlier, he's a
fan of the LGBTQ parades. He actually has his deputies
go and he attends himself and walks in them, and
then he also has DEI hiring events. So his focus,
he told the local media there was that diversity is
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like super important to him right now, and he's really
trying to gear up his sheriff deputies for that, and
so that's what he was looking to hire. Yeah, so
he's pretty bad all around. Oh, when he's an Obama donor.
I almost forgot that one. Fifteen thousand dollars to Obama.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, that was a terrible pick. Who knows what was
going through?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Trump said when he picked that guy because of pressure
from you. Donald Trump listened, and Donald Trump bounced that
guy last night.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The guy voluntarily withdrawal.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But Trump came out on social media and said he
didn't withdraw I kicked him out because of how he
treated my pastors and people.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
All this really, this entire monologue is going to be
about you, about the very good things you can do
with your voice.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
With social media.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now, Donald Trump listens when people talk on social media,
and no, it's not just people with big platforms like
here on this show. Every single one of us has
a role to play. And the outrage over Chad Cronister
was heard loud and clear on social media. And Chad
Cronister will in a small way pay for his COVID
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crimes cost him his dream job because of you. And
so with that, I'm going to ask you to do
something else, because our voice on social can be used
to stop bad people from rising to positions where they
don't really belong. And our voice can be used to
prop people up who need our help. And I'm here
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to tell you right now, Pete hag Seth needs your help.
Pete hag Seth is going to be hopefully the next
sec Death, the next Secretary of Defense. But I'm telling
you right now, it has become an uphill battle the
deep state, with the swamp, whatever, the blob, whatever word
you want to use for it. They are trying everything
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in their power to stop Pete hagg Seth from taking
over the reins of the multi trillion dollar defense industry
in this country. Can you even imagine how much corruption
is there, how many evil deeds are there. The Pentagon
failed audits seven years in a row. This is a
criminal organization. Now Pete hag Seth wants to reform it once,
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to clean it up. And that's why every single day
you open up the New York Times and there's a
new smear campaign about this allegation or that allegation. None
of it solid, none of it valid at all. But
they are doing everything in their power to try to
stop Pete hag Seth. And it's going to work unless
we help Pete hag Seth, to his credit, is standing
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tall sounds good, But we don't need Pete hag Seth
to stand tall. We need senators to stand tall. GP Senators.
(08:42):
I'm not worried about Pete hag Seth. I'm worried about
Lindsey Graham. I'm worried about a lot of people in
the GOP Senate who will be intimidated by the New
York Times. Or maybe they are just as compromised as
many evil Democrats by the evil defense industry in this country.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Maybe, just maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
There are a lot of Republican senators who have vested
financial interests in keeping the scam going.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So what do we do? Well, Remember, politicians, for the
most part, are not leaders. They are followers.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
They lick their finger and they stick it in the air,
and they see which way the wind is blowing. So
I need you to start blowing. I need you to
get Pete Hegseeth your support.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Vocally, publicly.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Maybe you're sitting there saying to yourself right now, I'm
just whatever feel in the bank. People love people love
to talk themselves down that way, Jesse, I can't. I'm
just a housewife. I'm just a construction worker. I'm just
a this I'm just a kid. I'm just an old man.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
All of us together rallied together. Every voice mattered, and
we won an election in November. Now all of us
together again need to rally behind Pete Hegseth. And maybe
you're one of the people out there. Maybe the allegations
give you the ikeys. Maybe that doesn't feel good. Well,
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let me explain something to you. Whatever you may think
about Pete Hegseth. Personally, we have to change the military now.
The communists have not been destroying our military. They have
been building our military for years, building a different one
for a different enemy.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And it is not a foreign one. Believe me what
I tell you.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They didn't kick out the unvaccinated because they were worried
about COVID nineteen. They kicked out the unvaccinated because they
were the least likely to comply with very evil orders.
They didn't fill up the military with gays and trannies
and every other kind of DEI higher crap just for funzies.
They did it because they understood the type of person
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who would fire upon you if ordered to do so.
The United States military is being taken over by communists
for the purpose of attacking American citizens.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
If you think that's over the.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Top or ridiculous, I would invite you to open a
single history book. It's what every evil communist has done
in every single country they have ever taken power. We
would be the exception if it didn't happen here. We
must clean the filth out of the military before we
are a country run by the military.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do you know what happened in South Korea? Maybe you
didn't hear.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The South Korean president declared martial law. Their legislature, their
national Assembly would just call it. Their congress got together
and voted it down. Absolutely not we won't have martial law.
But guess what they do have martial law. And you
know why they have martial law. Why it was voted
down vote This is what the South Korean military said.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The military stood with the president and martial law.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It is on a long enough timeline. Reforming the United
States military might be the only thing that matters. All
that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
We have an amazing show. Congressman Andy Ogles is here
in a moment to talk about hag Seth and other things.
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Speaker 6 (13:07):
We've got to emphasize positive command climates and inclusion. You know,
we get criticized, frankly sometimes for being woke. I'm not
sure what woke means. I think woke means a lot
of different things to different people, but I think you know,
we do have a wide range of soldiers in our army,
and we've got to make them all feel included. And
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that's why a lot of our diversity, equity and inclusion
programs are important.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Good freaking grief.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That is what we've had in charge of the army
for the last four years. Joining me now, Congressman Andy
Ogles from the Great State of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Congressman, about twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That clip came out and you were all over the stuff.
Have been all over this stuff for quite some time.
Exactly how bad is the rot inside the military right now?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (13:59):
I mean it is gracious when you listen to that clip,
you know the military. What I expect and want out
of my military is lethality, and if that hurts your healings,
then get the hell out. I mean, we are a
sovereign nation. We are the sole superpower of the world.
And when you have a military whose sole purpose in
mission is in collusion, no wonder Russia attacks Ukraine, No
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wonder Hamas has belonged.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
The who these are attacking Israel.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
No wonder you have Africa on fire or hated on fire,
is because they know that the commander in chief is
not only you know, cognitively declined, but when he is
paying attention he's not at the Helm, he's not doing
his job. We need a commander in chief. He's going
to secure this nation, secure this border, and make sure
our military is trained to kill.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Where are we at with?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I understand that you're in the House and he has
to get through the Senate, But this Pete hag Seth
nomination means a lot to me, means a lot to
my Marine Corps brothers.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
People who are in really want to see things turn around.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And obviously there's a spirit campaign that works a lot
on the low TGOP types.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
What are you hearing on Capitol Hill? Well, you know,
to be determined. You know, I texted with Pete last
night and then again this morning, giving him words of
encourage him and told him never back down, keep fighting.
When he came to the Hill and spoke to the
House this afternoon, I greeted him, walked he and his
wife out the back door, but just again to offer
those words of encouragement.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
He's a fighter.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
The DEEI Woke caucus within the military does not want
someone like Pete except at the Helm. And so that's
why there's a smear campaign against him. It's that simple.
And so look, if you want someone to come in
and increase lethality to secure our nation as the top predator,
quite frankly in the military space.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's Pete.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Hegseth and look and he said his own words. You know,
he was an elected president, but he is an operator
who's going to work the will of the president and
execute the president's vision going forward.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
And that's what we need in Pete. Hegseth.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Congressman, what can we do with recess appointments? There's a
lot of chatter online. Everyone's an expert now and what
you can do or can to give us the real
thing on what can be done, what is realistic if
Donald Trump needs to have recess appointments.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Well, there is a procedural mechanism and it's a bit
tricky on what would trigger those recess appointments, but it
is a tool that the president can use. And I
would think that Pete would be one of those that
would be if you're going to pull out that card
and you want to use it sparingly, let's be honest,
that Pete would be one of those individuals that you say, look,
we need someone who's going to be a disruptor, a
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change agent and to restore the trust and the values.
You know, our middle child, our fourteen year old, sign
told me that, you know, he wants to go to
one of the academies. And there's that half of me
that shuddered because I'm honored that my son would want
to serve as country. And there's the other half of
me that shuddered because our military, our military has gone woke,
and so we need to restore that trust to this
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apparatus that protects you and I and quite frankly the
rest of the world. And so as you go forward again,
I do think it's something that the President could utilize.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
But my hope would.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Be is that the Senate moves past this mirror campaign,
past these allegations, and confirms him and gives him kind
of that full, you know, endorsement that he deserves out
of the US Senate.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Congressman, we have a spending battle, as you always have
a spending battle on Capitol Hill, and I'm sad to say,
in my forty three years on this planet, I don't
think we've ever won one of these battles. So how
bad's the loss going to be this time?
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Well, you know that is the question.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
You know, I've talked to the President just before Thanks
Given Giving and been in touch with Stephen Miller, one
of his advisors, about.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
You know, what is this path forward? What do we
have to do?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
And look, you know, if you're President Trump, you know
there's a lot to get done in those first one
hundred days. Obviously, he's going to do a lot immediately
by executive order, but then he needs the House the
Congress to come in and legislate many of those priorities,
like securing the board, or like deporting individuals who we're
here illegally, like to mark targeting our enemies like Hamas
and Hasiblah. But that being said is as we go forward,
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this this is a tricky environment that we're in. There's
going to be this bush for an omnibus. Meanwhile, you know,
I'm ranked now the second most conservative member of Congress.
I want to cut, cut, cut, cut as much as
we can, but that there is going to be a
struggle at the end of the day. We've got to
make sure that we don't inadvertently handicap President Trump as
he comes into office. We need to make sure we
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don't do anything to disrupt those very important and critical
first one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Tong sman.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I appreciate you very much. Please keep fighting for us,
one of the good ones up there. Thank you, absolutely
God blessed.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
All Right, we have a lot more.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Let's talk to doctor Aaron Carriotti about doctor j and
the horrible Surgeon General appointment and everything else in a moment.
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Speaker 9 (20:00):
What censorship did is is. It's not just that it
suppressed the voices of the people that were censored, although
that was bad enough, it sent a signal to the
other scientists that's look, these areas are too controversial to
stay out of them, Otherwise you're going to lose your
reputation too. And as a result, you have this illusion
of a consensus that never existed. On so many topics.
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We rob the American people of a true debate. The
truth comes from people honestly engaging with the data. Censorship
kills that. Censorship kills science, and I think censorship actually
killed people during this pandemic.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Love doctor J.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Very very excited for some of these most of these
medical picks right now anyway. But I'm not the doctor here.
Let's go talk to the doctor, doctor Aaron Carrioti. He
has joined us before. He wrote a wonderful book. I
would highly recommend The New Abnormal, talking about the biomedical
security state this country turned into for a couple of
years that was not a great time anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
First of all, let's talk about doctor J. Battacharia. I
love that freaking guy.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
What say you?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
This is some of the best news I've received in
a very long time that my friend and colleague and
coplaintiff in our free speech case Missouri versus Biden challenging
government censorship. Jay Boticharia has been appointed the next director
of the NIH, the National Institute of Health, which funds
eighty five percent of the biomedical research in the United States.
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And so this is a hugely influential position in science
and medicine, just as you know, because when you control
the purse strings, you control the funding, the grant funding
to all the universities and the other research centers, you
really shape the direction of science and scientific research and
the practice of medicine, which is informed obviously by the
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quality of research. And there's a serious replication crisis in
research right now that a lot of biomedical research, if
you try to run the same study again, you don't
get the same results, which means the research was not
done well. And so we're wasting a lot of money
in this area, wasting taxpayer's dollars, we're impeding the progress
of science.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
When these things become politicized, obviously.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
That's the death knell of good scientific and medical research.
And Trump could not have picked anyone better than Jay Bodicaria.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Not only is he brilliant.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Not only was he right in his critique of the
COVID policies even though he and I and others were censored.
You signed that video. You just showed one of our
other co plaintiffs in the Missouri v. Biden case, Martin Coldorf,
formerly of Harvard, another world renowned epidemiologist, who is censored.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
And there's something very sort of poetic.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
There's a kind of poetic justice about Jay being appointed
director of NIH because the former director of NIH, Francis Collins,
a man who did not cover himself in glory during
the pandemic, wrote an email we now know we got
a Foyer request. He wrote in an email to Anthony
Fauci during the pandemic that when Jay and Martin published
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the Great Barrington Declaration, which is advocating for a traditional
evidence based approach to public health during the pandemic, Collins
told Fauci that we need a quote swift and devastating takedown.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Of the Great Barrington Declaration.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
This is something the NIH was orchestrating behind the scenes
to censor and silence critics of our COVID policies.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Not hey, let's sit down with this. Harvard and Stanford.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
Epidemiologist and debate the merits of our proposed lockdowns and
school closures and mask mandates and other policies. No, instead
of just sitting down and having an open debate the
way science should be conducted, they said, we need a
swift and devastating, basically character assassination of these people. So
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the former NIH director, I think think has to be
looking around at the devastation hopefully caused under his watch,
and maybe he'll recognize that it's time for a new leadership.
But in any case, President Trump is recognized that it's
time for new leadership. So Javadicharia is the perfect choice
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for the NIH directly. He's a man of enormous integrity
as well. It's going to sound like I'm trying to
canonize him a saint or something, but he is. He
is a man with just enormous integrity and honesty and
fundamental human decency. And so you know, these are the
kind of people that we want in leadership positions. The
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FDA Commissioner, Marty McCarey is another great guy.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I've gotten to know Marty over the last couple of years.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Marty is not beholden to the big pharma interests. He's
an independent thinker.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
JOHNS.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Hopkins physician, written some terrific books on cost savings and
other thing other reforms that have to happen in medicine.
And the biggest problem with the FDA right now is
that they're captured by the very industry that they are
supposed to regulate, which is the pharmaceutical industry. And so
Marty is another really solid, terrific pick for FDA commissioners.
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So those two guys I'm so happy about.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And of course RFK Jr.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
As the new Health and Human Service as Secretary, which
is a large agency that oversees the NIH, the FDA,
and the CDC, among several other government agencies. So the
Department of Health and Human Services is I think going
to be under in very good hands under the leadership
of Robert F.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
I'll tell you a brief story about Kennedy just to
kind of illustrate his character as well.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
And it's going to perhaps sound like name dropping and
a shameless.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
Plug for my book, But Bobby actually called me about
a year and a half ago and he said, in
his you know, scratchy deep voice, Aaron, I'm reading your
book and it says here on paid such and such
that so and so was affiliated with such and such.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And do you have a flipnote on that? Do you
have a reference for that? And I said, well, Bobby,
I got that information from this person. You need to
give him a call. He can, he can give you
the source on that.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
And I tell this story because, unlike most people I
think in positions of leadership that take a sort of
thirty thousand foot view on the issues that they're dealing with,
RFK Junior is a man who knows what he's talking about.
He pays attention to details, and that little anecdote is
just an illustration of the fact that on the issues
that he's dealing with, he does a deep dive. And
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anyone who's listened to him in interviews will tell you, Wow,
this guy really knows his stuff. He knows what he's
talking about, he's citing facts, he's citing evidence, he is persuasive,
and he's compelling because he's a man of enormous intelligence
that has done a really deep dive on the issues
that he is focused on.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
And I think, sad to say, that's also.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Another rare quality among government bureaucrats. And among people that
are running the administrative state.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It was certainly a rare quality in.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
The previous administration and the leadership that we had at
places like the Department of Health and Human Services and
the sub agencies like our public health agencies.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So all of this, those three appointments to me feel
like a real breath of fresh air.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Doctor how bad are doctor Oz?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Doctor with the doctor Janet Jeannette whatever her name is.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Look, yeah, look, I love the other ones. I love
all the ones you just named.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I saw these ones, I started banging my head off
the desk.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Should we be concerned, Well, I'm not impressed with the
surgeon general appointment doctor Janet nisch Watt.
Speaker 10 (27:52):
At least the little I've seen her, and I don't
know her personally, So the big caveat big grain of
salt on this one. I can vouch for the three
that I mentioned because they're they're personal friends.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And so I guess I'll say the jury is still out.
Let's see what they do.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
But some of these feel a little bit like, I
don't know, sort of celebrity appointments. Maybe people that haven't
drilled down and really done the work necessary to prepare
for a role like that, but I will suspend judgment
until I see what they actually do. The CDC appointment.
Dave Weldon is an interesting pick, and I'm cautiously optimist optimistic.
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He is a physician and former member of the House
of Representatives, and I'm not an expert on him or
his policies, but I will say that the Weldon Amendment
that he pushed through during his time in Congress has
been a very important piece of legislation for conscience protection
for healthcare workers. Healthcare workers that do not want to
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participate in things like abortion or so called gender affirmative
care because they believe that it's bad medicine and you
know it may run contrary to their moral convictions. Federal
law actually protects those doctors and nurses from basically being
forced to do things that they think are medically inappropriate.
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And it's a little known piece of legislation. It always
it hasn't always been enforced by AHHS Department with the
vigor that it should have been. It was enforced under
my former friend, under my friend Roger Severino, who's formerly
head of the Office of Civil Rights and AHHS.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Roger did a really good job of enforcing that law.
It was not enforced.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
Under the Biden administration, but it's a really important law
that we have on the books that Dave Weldon during
his time in Congress was instrumental.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Obviously, the.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Law bears his name because he was the main sponsor
of that bill. So I think he's a person of integrity,
and the CDC has been politic sized in ways that
are just totally unacceptable, and hopefully under his leadership, we
can bring that agency sort of back in line with
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sound public policy and good science and medicine.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
The Surgeon General, I think is largely symbolic. You know,
I'm not sure she actually has a lot of power
or sway she's influential, because you know, if the surgeon
in general slaps a warning on something, people actually do
pay attention to that, and so her word does carry
some weight, but we'll have to see. You know, she's
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also she's also going to be working in an administration
that has some other good picks around her, and sometimes
having good people around you can have an influence on you.
So you know, we'll see what happens with that. I
guess you can't nobody bats a thousand. You can't win
them all on politics is the art of compromise. But
I think overall, from where where we are now to
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where we're going to be in a month, we're going
to see sort of tremendous progress.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Doctor appreciates you as always. Please come back anytime. All right,
Supreme Court, big hearing today.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What happened? I don't know. I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Josh Hammer is, though he's going to join us next.
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Go to shotbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
There was a big Supreme Court hearing today. It was
about the mutilation of children in this country, something amazingly
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we do here and it's lawful. Still having a hard
time wrapping my mind around how the United States of
America became that, but either way, I'm going to know
what happened at Scotus today. So joining me now, my
friend soon to be father, mister Josh Hammer, host of
the Wonderful America on Trial Josh.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Okay, the scot Is hearing.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I caught a little snippet gear and a little snippet there.
But since you're a lawyer and a huge nerd, I'm
sure sure you watched the whole thing.
Speaker 12 (32:55):
What happened, lawyer in a huge nerd, I couldn't ask
for more flattering and show my good friends. Look, I'm
pretty I'm pretty sure that Tennessee is gonna win this case.
So just some context here. So Tennessee passed. Tennessee passed
a law called Senate Bill one. It bans the use
of puberty blockers cross sex hormones. I mean you describe
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it accurately. I mean it's kitty chemical castration. That is
actually it's general mutilation. That is actually what Tennessee is
trying to ban here when it comes to minors under
the age of eighteen. There the claim that the other
side is making. And by the way, this case is
styled the United States versus Scrimmeti's Scrimti is the Attorney
General of Tennessee. The United States means the United States
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because the Biden DOJ actually stepped in to sue this law.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Here.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
By the way, Donald Trump should drop this lawsuit from
his DOJ on day one, January twentieth of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
He has the authority to do so.
Speaker 12 (33:47):
But in any event, today we have your all arguments here,
and I think it's going to go Tennessee's way. So
you saw Chief Justice John Roberts. He's obviously won the
swing votes. He seems very skeptical of the United States's
argument that this law is unconstitutional. They're making Jesse, they're
making a ludicrous Fourteenth Amendment argument. I mean, they're making
this argument basically that this amounts to discrimination against transgender
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people who are a protected class the same way that
race and sex are protected classes when it comes to
American constitutional law. It's wrong on just so many different
levels here, and I'm pretty sure that the votes are
going to be there to uphold the constitutionality of this law.
I do note that I was a little concerned that
Justice Gorsch was very silent. He was the one who
went wobbly in the twenty twenty case, the boss Stock
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case back when they did a similar stunt where they
read transgenderism into Title seven of the Civil Rights Act
of nineteen sixty four. So I was a little caught
off guard by Gorsach's reticence, his lack of asking any
questions of counsel today. But even if he goes wobbly,
and I don't think he will, but even if he does,
the fact that Roberts is on board, Kavanaugh Barrett seem
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like they're heading the right way there, I'm pretty sure
the votes are there. I'll make just one final observation,
because this case is just such a ludic Chris constitutional argument.
You had some of the liberal justices saying some really,
really crazy things. But in the case of this culture
war magnitude, I think it really is accentuated here. And
I'll give just one example. Katanji Brown Jackson, who's, of
course Joe Biden's only nominee to Scotis. She was basically
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analogizing this act in Tennessee to the bans on interracial
marriage that were overturned by the Loving versus Virginia case
at the US Supreme Court in nineteen sixty seven. She
literally made that argument. I kid you not there, It's
right there in the record there again, Jesse. More's the
points here, because this is obviously happening in the background
the context of the presidential election. Donald Trump defeats Kamala Harris.
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She had that crazy transgender statement back in twenty nineteen.
Donald Trump had a very effective add on that. And
I think the fact that Katanji Brown Jackson asked that
very question today and phrased it along those lines.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
This is why they lose, Jesse.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
This ultimately is why the left loses there, And personally,
as someone who wishes them nothing but the worst, I'm
very happy that they haven't learned any lessons apparently.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, no doubt, I'm going to ask you to do
a little crystal ball thing before we get to the
Hunter Biden stuff. Donald Trump's going to assume the presidents
in January twenty is, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's four years.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Are there justices ours or theirs? You think he's going
to be able to replace? Do you see that on
the horizon?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I do so.
Speaker 12 (36:20):
The very popular rumor in legal conservative circles is that
Justice sam Alito is probably more likely than not to resign,
probably over the next two years, just given the fact
that Republicans control the Senate right now fifty three to
forty seven. The Senate map in twenty twenty six is
not quite as auspicious, so it makes sense that you
would do it sooner rather than later. The rumor is
(36:40):
that Aledo has been kind of looking to get out
for a while. I have no kind of inside knowlogized
to the veracity of that, but this would be a
very good time for him to do so. Then the
question for us is whether Clarence Thomas does the same
thing there. I genuinely don't know the answer to that.
I viewed as pretty much a fifty to fifty proposition there,
but I think Alito is probably the likelier of the
two to step down over the next year or two,
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but it's entirely possible that they both do, which would
actually open up two vacancies prior to the twenty twenty
six midterms if they happened one year after the other.
As far as other vacancies, you know, Jesse, sometimes you
just don't know. I mean, you know, Ginsburg passed away
in twenty twenty that opened up a seat for Amy
Cony Barrett there. You know, there's always the possibility of
family medical emergency something like that there. But but yes,
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I'm pretty optimistic that Donald Trump's gonna have at least one,
possibly two, or potentially even more openings on the US
Supreme Court over the course of this next term there,
and because of the fact that he had three picks
the first time around, so he could actually have an
outright majority of five out of the nine justices there.
That is a lasting generational legacy if there ever is
one there.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So I hope that he gets that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
All Right, Josh, let's talk about the absurdity of the
Hunter Biden pardon. Nobody's surprised. No one's surprised that Joe Biden,
pardon his dirtball. Son, Joe's the dirtball. He raised the
dirt ball. We all get all that, but even me
vin cynical Jesse was shocked at the breadth of the pardon,
a back dated eleven year pardon.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Josh, please take it away.
Speaker 12 (38:09):
Yeah, Jesse, I think you and I have the exact
same thoughts on this. So I mean, I was constantly
of the course this past year, trying to prepare my
audience on America on Try with Josh Hammer for this
exact thing. I constantly said, do not believe this lying
man for a second. He is obviously going to pardon
Hunter Biden on his way out the door. Do not,
even for the slightest bit of time, take his words
even remotely seriously that he trusts the justice system.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
What a load of crap, I mean.
Speaker 12 (38:32):
Joe Biden has been an inveterate chronic liar his entire life,
going all the way back speaking of Clarence Thomas, going
all the way back to the Clarence Thomas hearings back
in ninety one, when he was parroting Anita Hill's lies
about sexual harassment in the workplace. Joe Biden was working
with Ted Kennedy to nuke Bob Borke back in eighty seven.
He's been a liar his entire political career, so I
never for a second believed that. But like you, I
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also was caught at least a little off guard by
the fact that he was not even trying to hide
the fact that they were clearly tie up this to Brisma.
January twenty fourteen. How stupid, Jesse do they think we are?
I mean, what happened to the spring of twenty fourteen?
Have we been sleeping under.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
A rock for the past six years? Dude joins the
border Brisma.
Speaker 12 (39:13):
He's bagging in oodles and oodles of cash, millions and
millions a year there. I mean, it's just so farcical, honestly.
And even the way that they rolled this pardon out
was very legally sloppy from a lawyer perspective, because they
actually pardoned him then for all crimes up to the
very evening of the day that the partying came in
this past Sunday.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
But they said this.
Speaker 12 (39:34):
Around seven pm Eastern time, so Hunter Biden basically had
five three hours to commit whatever federal crime he wanted to.
You want to like traffic prostitutes across state lines. You
want to commit some sort of much worse attempts, whatever
it is, go for it.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Drug laws. We know he likes those laws.
Speaker 12 (39:51):
I mean, he basically had five hours of total free
reign there, so I and the whole thing was ridiculously sloppy. Unfortunately,
from a constitutional perspective, the president's part and power is
quite cleanary, it's basically absolute, So this is going to
stand unfortunately there.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
But what man, what an absolute joke?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Josh? Do you you think this paves the way?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Hopefully, this paves the way for all those January sixth
political prisoners to get off scott free. Surely it does, right,
Surely Trump walks in and says.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Hey, all of you go home.
Speaker 12 (40:25):
So that definitely is my hope, and that is my
expectation as well. And that is probably the number one
silver lining of this particular part in this particularly self
serving corrupt act of venality, the likes of which we
have never seen in modern American political history. My hope
is that Donald Trump does basically turn the tables come
January twenty twenty twenty five. I would think that the
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Jake sixers are going to receive a mass part in
around the around the first day or two in office.
I will note that the Trump transition team has been
a little more sober of their language. They're saying, that'll
be a case by case at hock adjudication as to
who receives a part in there. That's fine, that's let's
lawyers speak, that's legal language there. But especially in the
aftermath of this, I think you and I both hope
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and I do indeed expect that that sort of partner
is gonna happen. More generally speaking, though, kind of just
zoom me out for a second here, the Hunter Biden stuff,
the lawfair stuff, Jesse. In light of these recent developments,
what's good for the goose is surely good for the gander, right.
I mean, a lot of people are just telling Donald
Trump to take the moral high ground and be the
bigger man. Come January twenty twenty Twine, you and I
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both know these consultants that are saying that there. I
am so sick of this when it comes to the
issue of pardons, when it comes to the issue of
Lawfair Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, all these hooligans there, it
is time to turn the tables and to not seek retribution,
but to get justice, justice for those who have so
grossly upended our constitutional order and undermined our cherished rule
of law in this.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Country, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Josh my friend as always, Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I feel better. I feel better. I'm gonna or even
better after light in the mood. That's next.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
All right, it is time to lighten the mood. And
so I figured to lighten.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
The mood, we might as well go ahead and talk
about my burgers once again. You see, if you go
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Speaker 2 (42:31):
This a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's designed to put delicious meat with melty cheese on it.
It's designed to deliver those two things into your mouth.
Acceptable additions to a burger are, by the way, not
pickles either.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
You.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Pickle people are crazy. Now hold on, Corey, let me explain.
Let me explain.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I'm not anti pickle.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, I like pickles as much as an Why are you?
I wish I could take that back, but you understand
what I'm saying. I'll eat a pickle. I'm fine if
the wife has some deal pickles at home. Sometimes you
get some from the store. All caamala down. A deal
pickle confineable. When you put a pickle on a burger,
it takes away from the big deal. The only acceptable
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additions to a burger are things that in a way compliment, compliment.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
The meat in the cheese.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Where people go nuts is they start picking every little thing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I need.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Let us honeed tomatoes. We need extra pickles on this?
Should I get eight thousand onions? Then we need ketchup
mustard and mao, and then let's add some hot sauce
to it. It didn't need.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Any of that.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
You know what lima beans needs that.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I'll see them all
Let's talk about what they're doing to Pete hag Seth
a little bit of a reckoning. We have a congressman tonight,
we have a doctor, we have a lawyer. There's a
joke in there somewhere, but we're not going to tell that.
We're going to go to a show on our right.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So before I get to the Pete Haig says stuff
and something that's bothering me about what the GOP Senate
is doing. I just wanted to address something quickly because
it's something that is close to my heart.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Maybe it's something close to your heart.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's certainly something I've talked about a lot on this show,
and that's getting a reckoning of some kind for COVID,
meaning punishment, some sort of punishment for the people in power,
in government and otherwise for the people in power.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Who abused you.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Your liberties, your rights and the name of a bad
chest cold from China. What happened to you, what happened
to this country during COVID was criminal and it was evil.
It was not okay, And we are not going to
let people get away with Well, nobody knew, I'm not
really no, no, nope, nope, no, you don't get to
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burn down the house in order to kill a cockroach.
And then when people say why did you do that, well,
no one knew. Nope, absolutely not. You don't ever, for
any reason get to tell people they don't get to
bury their loved ones, they don't get to go to work,
that it can't feed their families. That you don't get
to do that for any reason. And that was done
(01:38):
in this country. This country turned into an evil dictatorship
during COVID. And look, are we ever going to get
everything that we need, that we deserve as far as
the recording goes, of course not no, we're not, No,
we're not. But I'm starting to hear things that pleased
me greatly. Remember what ram Paul said. Hear about Fauci.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We've discovered that the government is still funding Anthony Fauci.
He's retired, and yet the government spent fifteen million dollars
on him last year, providing him with an armed security
detail and a limo driver. So he's working at Georgetown supposedly.
Who knows how much they're paying him, maybe a million dollars.
We know he got a million dollars from a private foundation.
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But he has all of this money, in this great
personal wealth, and we're farring him around in a lima
driver with armed security. It's treatment we give to former presidents.
We're treating him like a former president, which is crazy
and obscene. Hopefully the Trump administration will stop that on
day one. But I also will send to the new
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Attorney General a criminal referral. We sent it twice to
Merrick Garland. In that criminal referral, we recount his testimony,
but then we also juxtapose his private emails with his testimony,
so we accuse him of lying to Congress based on
evidence from his own emails. We don't have me accusing
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him of lying. We have Anthony Fauci corroborating that he
lied by his private emails contradicting his public testimony. We
will send those again. But I think most important if
we don't ever get to a criminal prosecution, and even
more important, is that history examines and history rewards and
puts him in a pile of malefactors who basically were
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responsible in many ways for the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Obviously, we're never going to get Anthony Fauci behind bars,
at least I don't think. But at least we might
get something, and we got something else. We got something
that happened last night. Trump's pick for DEA chief was
a disaster. As you know, I've liked most of Trump's picks,
some have been mad, but his pick for DEA is awful. Well,
(03:57):
it was awful in every way. Brianna Morello joined yesterday
kind of laid it all out pretty pretty clearly.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
This person.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
If you're a fan of like DEI hiring practices, your sheriff,
hanging out at the LGBT whatever gatherings these days, or
having pastors arrested, this is your guy. That's exactly what
his resume actually says. So, like I said, during the
COVID pandemic, he did have a pastor arrest. Now that
pastor is saying, oh, I've forgiven him, but that's not
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the point. The point is that he went out there,
had a pastor arrested for holding service, and then tatted
it like he was doing some reckless deed. It's insane.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Obviously there was.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
A lot of backlash due to all of that, so
he's apologized. They've become friends again, so they are all
like back to being normal. But you don't want someone
who crossed that line, the red line that I'm referring
to as the US Constitution. Okay, he had no right
to do this as sheriff. I don't care what order
existed at the time, not going to overturn the constitution
just because you're a little afraid of unknown virus that's
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going around.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So that's the big point to all of us. He also,
and this is the.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
I guess sadder part to all of this, he also
emptied out his jail. Now he said it was nonviolent offenders,
but ultimately what happened was an individual who's being held
in that jail went on to actually committing murder after
he was released. Now, he allegedly did murder suspect and
had to be you know, obviously brought back into the jail.
(05:20):
But he doesn't talk about any of his He ignores
it all now. Again, like I mentioned earlier, he's a
fan of the LGBTQ parades. He actually has his deputies
go and he attends himself and walks in them, and
then he also has DEI hiring events. So his focus,
he told the local media there was that diversity is
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like super important to him right now, and he's really
trying to gear up his sheriff deputies for that, and
so that's what he was looking to hire. Yeah, so
he's pretty bad all around. Oh, when he's an Obama donor.
I almost forgot that one. Fifteen thousand dollars to Obama.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, that was a terrible pick. Who knows what was
going through?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Trump said when he picked that guy because of pressure
from you. Donald Trump listened, and Donald Trump bounced that
guy last night.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The guy voluntarily withdrawal.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But Trump came out on social media and said he
didn't withdraw I kicked him out because of how he
treated my pastors and people.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
All this really, this entire monologue is going to be
about you, about the very good things you can do
with your voice.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
With social media.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now, Donald Trump listens when people talk on social media,
and no, it's not just people with big platforms like
here on this show. Every single one of us has
a role to play. And the outrage over Chad Cronister
was heard loud and clear on social media. And Chad
Cronister will in a small way pay for his COVID
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crimes cost him his dream job because of you. And
so with that, I'm going to ask you to do
something else, because our voice on social can be used
to stop bad people from rising to positions where they
don't really belong. And our voice can be used to
prop people up who need our help. And I'm here
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to tell you right now, Pete hag Seth needs your help.
Pete hag Seth is going to be hopefully the next
sec Death, the next Secretary of Defense. But I'm telling
you right now, it has become an uphill battle the
deep state, with the swamp, whatever, the blob, whatever word
you want to use for it. They are trying everything
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in their power to stop Pete hagg Seth from taking
over the reins of the multi trillion dollar defense industry
in this country. Can you even imagine how much corruption
is there, how many evil deeds are there. The Pentagon
failed audits seven years in a row. This is a
criminal organization. Now Pete hag Seth wants to reform it once,
(08:00):
to clean it up. And that's why every single day
you open up the New York Times and there's a
new smear campaign about this allegation or that allegation. None
of it solid, none of it valid at all. But
they are doing everything in their power to try to
stop Pete hag Seth. And it's going to work unless
we help Pete hag Seth, to his credit, is standing
(08:22):
tall sounds good, But we don't need Pete hag Seth
to stand tall. We need senators to stand tall. GP Senators.
(08:42):
I'm not worried about Pete hag Seth. I'm worried about
Lindsey Graham. I'm worried about a lot of people in
the GOP Senate who will be intimidated by the New
York Times. Or maybe they are just as compromised as
many evil Democrats by the evil defense industry in this country.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Maybe, just maybe.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
There are a lot of Republican senators who have vested
financial interests in keeping the scam going.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So what do we do? Well, Remember, politicians, for the
most part, are not leaders. They are followers.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
They lick their finger and they stick it in the air,
and they see which way the wind is blowing. So
I need you to start blowing. I need you to
get Pete Hegseeth your support.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Vocally, publicly.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Maybe you're sitting there saying to yourself right now, I'm
just whatever feel in the bank. People love people love
to talk themselves down that way, Jesse, I can't. I'm
just a housewife. I'm just a construction worker. I'm just
a this I'm just a kid. I'm just an old man.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
All of us together rallied together. Every voice mattered, and
we won an election in November. Now all of us
together again need to rally behind Pete Hegseth. And maybe
you're one of the people out there. Maybe the allegations
give you the ikeys. Maybe that doesn't feel good. Well,
(10:07):
let me explain something to you. Whatever you may think
about Pete Hegseth. Personally, we have to change the military now.
The communists have not been destroying our military. They have
been building our military for years, building a different one
for a different enemy.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And it is not a foreign one. Believe me what
I tell you.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
They didn't kick out the unvaccinated because they were worried
about COVID nineteen. They kicked out the unvaccinated because they
were the least likely to comply with very evil orders.
They didn't fill up the military with gays and trannies
and every other kind of DEI higher crap just for funzies.
They did it because they understood the type of person
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who would fire upon you if ordered to do so.
The United States military is being taken over by communists
for the purpose of attacking American citizens.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
If you think that's over the.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Top or ridiculous, I would invite you to open a
single history book. It's what every evil communist has done
in every single country they have ever taken power. We
would be the exception if it didn't happen here. We
must clean the filth out of the military before we
are a country run by the military.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Do you know what happened in South Korea? Maybe you
didn't hear.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
The South Korean president declared martial law. Their legislature, their
national Assembly would just call it. Their congress got together
and voted it down. Absolutely not we won't have martial law.
But guess what they do have martial law. And you
know why they have martial law. Why it was voted
down vote This is what the South Korean military said.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
The military stood with the president and martial law.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It is on a long enough timeline. Reforming the United
States military might be the only thing that matters. All
that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
We have an amazing show. Congressman Andy Ogles is here
in a moment to talk about hag Seth and other things.
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Speaker 6 (13:07):
We've got to emphasize positive command climates and inclusion. You know,
we get criticized, frankly sometimes for being woke. I'm not
sure what woke means. I think woke means a lot
of different things to different people, but I think you know,
we do have a wide range of soldiers in our army,
and we've got to make them all feel included. And
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that's why a lot of our diversity, equity and inclusion
programs are important.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Good freaking grief.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
That is what we've had in charge of the army
for the last four years. Joining me now, Congressman Andy
Ogles from the Great State of Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Congressman, about twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
That clip came out and you were all over the stuff.
Have been all over this stuff for quite some time.
Exactly how bad is the rot inside the military right now?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (13:59):
I mean it is gracious when you listen to that clip,
you know the military. What I expect and want out
of my military is lethality, and if that hurts your healings,
then get the hell out. I mean, we are a
sovereign nation. We are the sole superpower of the world.
And when you have a military whose sole purpose in
mission is in collusion, no wonder Russia attacks Ukraine, No
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wonder Hamas has belonged.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
The who these are attacking Israel.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
No wonder you have Africa on fire or hated on fire,
is because they know that the commander in chief is
not only you know, cognitively declined, but when he is
paying attention he's not at the Helm, he's not doing
his job. We need a commander in chief. He's going
to secure this nation, secure this border, and make sure
our military is trained to kill.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Where are we at with?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I understand that you're in the House and he has
to get through the Senate, But this Pete hag Seth
nomination means a lot to me, means a lot to
my Marine Corps brothers.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
People who are in really want to see things turn around.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
And obviously there's a spirit campaign that works a lot
on the low TGOP types.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
What are you hearing on Capitol Hill? Well, you know,
to be determined. You know, I texted with Pete last
night and then again this morning, giving him words of
encourage him and told him never back down, keep fighting.
When he came to the Hill and spoke to the
House this afternoon, I greeted him, walked he and his
wife out the back door, but just again to offer
those words of encouragement.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
He's a fighter.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
The DEEI Woke caucus within the military does not want
someone like Pete except at the Helm. And so that's
why there's a smear campaign against him. It's that simple.
And so look, if you want someone to come in
and increase lethality to secure our nation as the top predator,
quite frankly in the military space.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's Pete.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Hegseth and look and he said his own words. You know,
he was an elected president, but he is an operator
who's going to work the will of the president and
execute the president's vision going forward.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
And that's what we need in Pete. Hegseth.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Congressman, what can we do with recess appointments? There's a
lot of chatter online. Everyone's an expert now and what
you can do or can to give us the real
thing on what can be done, what is realistic if
Donald Trump needs to have recess appointments.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Well, there is a procedural mechanism and it's a bit
tricky on what would trigger those recess appointments, but it
is a tool that the president can use. And I
would think that Pete would be one of those that
would be if you're going to pull out that card
and you want to use it sparingly, let's be honest,
that Pete would be one of those individuals that you say, look,
we need someone who's going to be a disruptor, a
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change agent and to restore the trust and the values.
You know, our middle child, our fourteen year old, sign
told me that, you know, he wants to go to
one of the academies. And there's that half of me
that shuddered because I'm honored that my son would want
to serve as country. And there's the other half of
me that shuddered because our military, our military has gone woke,
and so we need to restore that trust to this
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apparatus that protects you and I and quite frankly the
rest of the world. And so as you go forward again,
I do think it's something that the President could utilize.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
But my hope would.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Be is that the Senate moves past this mirror campaign,
past these allegations, and confirms him and gives him kind
of that full, you know, endorsement that he deserves out
of the US Senate.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Congressman, we have a spending battle, as you always have
a spending battle on Capitol Hill, and I'm sad to say,
in my forty three years on this planet, I don't
think we've ever won one of these battles. So how
bad's the loss going to be this time?
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Well, you know that is the question.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
You know, I've talked to the President just before Thanks
Given Giving and been in touch with Stephen Miller, one
of his advisors, about.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
You know, what is this path forward? What do we
have to do?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
And look, you know, if you're President Trump, you know
there's a lot to get done in those first one
hundred days. Obviously, he's going to do a lot immediately
by executive order, but then he needs the House the
Congress to come in and legislate many of those priorities,
like securing the board, or like deporting individuals who we're
here illegally, like to mark targeting our enemies like Hamas
and Hasiblah. But that being said is as we go forward,
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this this is a tricky environment that we're in. There's
going to be this bush for an omnibus. Meanwhile, you know,
I'm ranked now the second most conservative member of Congress.
I want to cut, cut, cut, cut as much as
we can, but that there is going to be a
struggle at the end of the day. We've got to
make sure that we don't inadvertently handicap President Trump as
he comes into office. We need to make sure we
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don't do anything to disrupt those very important and critical
first one hundred days.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Tong sman.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I appreciate you very much. Please keep fighting for us,
one of the good ones up there. Thank you, absolutely
God blessed.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
All Right, we have a lot more.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Let's talk to doctor Aaron Carriotti about doctor j and
the horrible Surgeon General appointment and everything else in a moment.
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Speaker 9 (20:00):
What censorship did is is. It's not just that it
suppressed the voices of the people that were censored, although
that was bad enough, it sent a signal to the
other scientists that's look, these areas are too controversial to
stay out of them, Otherwise you're going to lose your
reputation too. And as a result, you have this illusion
of a consensus that never existed. On so many topics.
(20:21):
We rob the American people of a true debate. The
truth comes from people honestly engaging with the data. Censorship
kills that. Censorship kills science, and I think censorship actually
killed people during this pandemic.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Love doctor J.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Very very excited for some of these most of these
medical picks right now anyway. But I'm not the doctor here.
Let's go talk to the doctor, doctor Aaron Carrioti. He
has joined us before. He wrote a wonderful book. I
would highly recommend The New Abnormal, talking about the biomedical
security state this country turned into for a couple of
years that was not a great time anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Doctor.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
First of all, let's talk about doctor J. Battacharia. I
love that freaking guy.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
What say you?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
This is some of the best news I've received in
a very long time that my friend and colleague and
coplaintiff in our free speech case Missouri versus Biden challenging
government censorship. Jay Boticharia has been appointed the next director
of the NIH, the National Institute of Health, which funds
eighty five percent of the biomedical research in the United States.
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And so this is a hugely influential position in science
and medicine, just as you know, because when you control
the purse strings, you control the funding, the grant funding
to all the universities and the other research centers, you
really shape the direction of science and scientific research and
the practice of medicine, which is informed obviously by the
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quality of research. And there's a serious replication crisis in
research right now that a lot of biomedical research, if
you try to run the same study again, you don't
get the same results, which means the research was not
done well. And so we're wasting a lot of money
in this area, wasting taxpayer's dollars, we're impeding the progress
of science.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
When these things become politicized, obviously.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
That's the death knell of good scientific and medical research.
And Trump could not have picked anyone better than Jay Bodicaria.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Not only is he brilliant.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Not only was he right in his critique of the
COVID policies even though he and I and others were censored.
You signed that video. You just showed one of our
other co plaintiffs in the Missouri v. Biden case, Martin Coldorf,
formerly of Harvard, another world renowned epidemiologist, who is censored.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
And there's something very sort of poetic.
Speaker 10 (22:43):
There's a kind of poetic justice about Jay being appointed
director of NIH because the former director of NIH, Francis Collins,
a man who did not cover himself in glory during
the pandemic, wrote an email we now know we got
a Foyer request. He wrote in an email to Anthony
Fauci during the pandemic that when Jay and Martin published
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the Great Barrington Declaration, which is advocating for a traditional
evidence based approach to public health during the pandemic, Collins
told Fauci that we need a quote swift and devastating takedown.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Of the Great Barrington Declaration.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
This is something the NIH was orchestrating behind the scenes
to censor and silence critics of our COVID policies.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Not hey, let's sit down with this. Harvard and Stanford.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
Epidemiologist and debate the merits of our proposed lockdowns and
school closures and mask mandates and other policies. No, instead
of just sitting down and having an open debate the
way science should be conducted, they said, we need a
swift and devastating, basically character assassination of these people. So
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the former NIH director, I think think has to be
looking around at the devastation hopefully caused under his watch,
and maybe he'll recognize that it's time for a new leadership.
But in any case, President Trump is recognized that it's
time for new leadership. So Javadicharia is the perfect choice
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for the NIH directly. He's a man of enormous integrity
as well. It's going to sound like I'm trying to
canonize him a saint or something, but he is. He
is a man with just enormous integrity and honesty and
fundamental human decency. And so you know, these are the
kind of people that we want in leadership positions. The
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FDA Commissioner, Marty McCarey is another great guy.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I've gotten to know Marty over the last couple of years.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
Marty is not beholden to the big pharma interests. He's
an independent thinker.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
JOHNS.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Hopkins physician, written some terrific books on cost savings and
other thing other reforms that have to happen in medicine.
And the biggest problem with the FDA right now is
that they're captured by the very industry that they are
supposed to regulate, which is the pharmaceutical industry. And so
Marty is another really solid, terrific pick for FDA commissioners.
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So those two guys I'm so happy about.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
And of course RFK Jr.
Speaker 10 (25:21):
As the new Health and Human Service as Secretary, which
is a large agency that oversees the NIH, the FDA,
and the CDC, among several other government agencies. So the
Department of Health and Human Services is I think going
to be under in very good hands under the leadership
of Robert F.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
I'll tell you a brief story about Kennedy just to
kind of illustrate his character as well.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
And it's going to perhaps sound like name dropping and
a shameless.
Speaker 10 (25:51):
Plug for my book, But Bobby actually called me about
a year and a half ago and he said, in
his you know, scratchy deep voice, Aaron, I'm reading your
book and it says here on paid such and such
that so and so was affiliated with such and such.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And do you have a flipnote on that? Do you
have a reference for that? And I said, well, Bobby,
I got that information from this person. You need to
give him a call. He can, he can give you
the source on that.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
And I tell this story because, unlike most people I
think in positions of leadership that take a sort of
thirty thousand foot view on the issues that they're dealing with,
RFK Junior is a man who knows what he's talking about.
He pays attention to details, and that little anecdote is
just an illustration of the fact that on the issues
that he's dealing with, he does a deep dive. And
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anyone who's listened to him in interviews will tell you, Wow,
this guy really knows his stuff. He knows what he's
talking about, he's citing facts, he's citing evidence, he is persuasive,
and he's compelling because he's a man of enormous intelligence
that has done a really deep dive on the issues
that he is focused on.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
And I think, sad to say, that's also.
Speaker 10 (26:58):
Another rare quality among government bureaucrats. And among people that
are running the administrative state.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It was certainly a rare quality in.
Speaker 10 (27:09):
The previous administration and the leadership that we had at
places like the Department of Health and Human Services and
the sub agencies like our public health agencies.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
So all of this, those three appointments to me feel
like a real breath of fresh air.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Doctor how bad are doctor Oz?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Doctor with the doctor Janet Jeannette whatever her name is.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Look, yeah, look, I love the other ones. I love
all the ones you just named.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
I saw these ones, I started banging my head off
the desk.
Speaker 11 (27:41):
Should we be concerned, Well, I'm not impressed with the
surgeon general appointment doctor Janet nisch Watt.
Speaker 10 (27:52):
At least the little I've seen her, and I don't
know her personally, So the big caveat big grain of
salt on this one. I can vouch for the three
that I mentioned because they're they're personal friends.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And so I guess I'll say the jury is still out.
Let's see what they do.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
But some of these feel a little bit like, I
don't know, sort of celebrity appointments. Maybe people that haven't
drilled down and really done the work necessary to prepare
for a role like that, but I will suspend judgment
until I see what they actually do. The CDC appointment.
Dave Weldon is an interesting pick, and I'm cautiously optimist optimistic.
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He is a physician and former member of the House
of Representatives, and I'm not an expert on him or
his policies, but I will say that the Weldon Amendment
that he pushed through during his time in Congress has
been a very important piece of legislation for conscience protection
for healthcare workers. Healthcare workers that do not want to
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participate in things like abortion or so called gender affirmative
care because they believe that it's bad medicine and you
know it may run contrary to their moral convictions. Federal
law actually protects those doctors and nurses from basically being
forced to do things that they think are medically inappropriate.
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And it's a little known piece of legislation. It always
it hasn't always been enforced by AHHS Department with the
vigor that it should have been. It was enforced under
my former friend, under my friend Roger Severino, who's formerly
head of the Office of Civil Rights and AHHS.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Roger did a really good job of enforcing that law.
It was not enforced.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
Under the Biden administration, but it's a really important law
that we have on the books that Dave Weldon during
his time in Congress was instrumental.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Obviously, the.
Speaker 10 (29:49):
Law bears his name because he was the main sponsor
of that bill. So I think he's a person of integrity,
and the CDC has been politic sized in ways that
are just totally unacceptable, and hopefully under his leadership, we
can bring that agency sort of back in line with
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sound public policy and good science and medicine.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 10 (30:16):
The Surgeon General, I think is largely symbolic. You know,
I'm not sure she actually has a lot of power
or sway she's influential, because you know, if the surgeon
in general slaps a warning on something, people actually do
pay attention to that, and so her word does carry
some weight, but we'll have to see. You know, she's
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also she's also going to be working in an administration
that has some other good picks around her, and sometimes
having good people around you can have an influence on you.
So you know, we'll see what happens with that. I
guess you can't nobody bats a thousand. You can't win
them all on politics is the art of compromise. But
I think overall, from where where we are now to
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where we're going to be in a month, we're going
to see sort of tremendous progress.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Doctor appreciates you as always. Please come back anytime. All right,
Supreme Court, big hearing today.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
What happened? I don't know. I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Josh Hammer is, though he's going to join us next.
Before we get to Josh, do you want to sleep
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Go to shotbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back.
There was a big Supreme Court hearing today. It was
about the mutilation of children in this country, something amazingly
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we do here and it's lawful. Still having a hard
time wrapping my mind around how the United States of
America became that, but either way, I'm going to know
what happened at Scotus today. So joining me now, my
friend soon to be father, mister Josh Hammer, host of
the Wonderful America on Trial Josh.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Okay, the scot Is hearing.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I caught a little snippet gear and a little snippet there.
But since you're a lawyer and a huge nerd, I'm
sure sure you watched the whole thing.
Speaker 12 (32:55):
What happened, lawyer in a huge nerd, I couldn't ask
for more flattering and show my good friends. Look, I'm
pretty I'm pretty sure that Tennessee is gonna win this case.
So just some context here. So Tennessee passed. Tennessee passed
a law called Senate Bill one. It bans the use
of puberty blockers cross sex hormones. I mean you describe
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it accurately. I mean it's kitty chemical castration. That is
actually it's general mutilation. That is actually what Tennessee is
trying to ban here when it comes to minors under
the age of eighteen. There the claim that the other
side is making. And by the way, this case is
styled the United States versus Scrimmeti's Scrimti is the Attorney
General of Tennessee. The United States means the United States
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because the Biden DOJ actually stepped in to sue this law.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Here.
Speaker 12 (33:39):
By the way, Donald Trump should drop this lawsuit from
his DOJ on day one, January twentieth of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
He has the authority to do so.
Speaker 12 (33:47):
But in any event, today we have your all arguments here,
and I think it's going to go Tennessee's way. So
you saw Chief Justice John Roberts. He's obviously won the
swing votes. He seems very skeptical of the United States's
argument that this law is unconstitutional. They're making Jesse, they're
making a ludicrous Fourteenth Amendment argument. I mean, they're making
this argument basically that this amounts to discrimination against transgender
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people who are a protected class the same way that
race and sex are protected classes when it comes to
American constitutional law. It's wrong on just so many different
levels here, and I'm pretty sure that the votes are
going to be there to uphold the constitutionality of this law.
I do note that I was a little concerned that
Justice Gorsch was very silent. He was the one who
went wobbly in the twenty twenty case, the boss Stock
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case back when they did a similar stunt where they
read transgenderism into Title seven of the Civil Rights Act
of nineteen sixty four. So I was a little caught
off guard by Gorsach's reticence, his lack of asking any
questions of counsel today. But even if he goes wobbly,
and I don't think he will, but even if he does,
the fact that Roberts is on board, Kavanaugh Barrett seem
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like they're heading the right way there, I'm pretty sure
the votes are there. I'll make just one final observation,
because this case is just such a ludic Chris constitutional argument.
You had some of the liberal justices saying some really,
really crazy things. But in the case of this culture
war magnitude, I think it really is accentuated here. And
I'll give just one example. Katanji Brown Jackson, who's, of
course Joe Biden's only nominee to Scotis. She was basically
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analogizing this act in Tennessee to the bans on interracial
marriage that were overturned by the Loving versus Virginia case
at the US Supreme Court in nineteen sixty seven. She
literally made that argument. I kid you not there, It's
right there in the record there again, Jesse. More's the
points here, because this is obviously happening in the background
the context of the presidential election. Donald Trump defeats Kamala Harris.
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She had that crazy transgender statement back in twenty nineteen.
Donald Trump had a very effective add on that. And
I think the fact that Katanji Brown Jackson asked that
very question today and phrased it along those lines.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
This is why they lose, Jesse.
Speaker 12 (35:50):
This ultimately is why the left loses there, And personally,
as someone who wishes them nothing but the worst, I'm
very happy that they haven't learned any lessons apparently.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, no doubt, I'm going to ask you to do
a little crystal ball thing before we get to the
Hunter Biden stuff. Donald Trump's going to assume the presidents
in January twenty is, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's four years.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Are there justices ours or theirs? You think he's going
to be able to replace? Do you see that on
the horizon?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I do so.
Speaker 12 (36:20):
The very popular rumor in legal conservative circles is that
Justice sam Alito is probably more likely than not to resign,
probably over the next two years, just given the fact
that Republicans control the Senate right now fifty three to
forty seven. The Senate map in twenty twenty six is
not quite as auspicious, so it makes sense that you
would do it sooner rather than later. The rumor is
(36:40):
that Aledo has been kind of looking to get out
for a while. I have no kind of inside knowlogized
to the veracity of that, but this would be a
very good time for him to do so. Then the
question for us is whether Clarence Thomas does the same
thing there. I genuinely don't know the answer to that.
I viewed as pretty much a fifty to fifty proposition there,
but I think Alito is probably the likelier of the
two to step down over the next year or two,
(37:01):
but it's entirely possible that they both do, which would
actually open up two vacancies prior to the twenty twenty
six midterms if they happened one year after the other.
As far as other vacancies, you know, Jesse, sometimes you
just don't know. I mean, you know, Ginsburg passed away
in twenty twenty that opened up a seat for Amy
Cony Barrett there. You know, there's always the possibility of
family medical emergency something like that there. But but yes,
(37:22):
I'm pretty optimistic that Donald Trump's gonna have at least one,
possibly two, or potentially even more openings on the US
Supreme Court over the course of this next term there,
and because of the fact that he had three picks
the first time around, so he could actually have an
outright majority of five out of the nine justices there.
That is a lasting generational legacy if there ever is
one there.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So I hope that he gets that opportunity.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
All Right, Josh, let's talk about the absurdity of the
Hunter Biden pardon. Nobody's surprised. No one's surprised that Joe Biden,
pardon his dirtball. Son, Joe's the dirtball. He raised the
dirt ball. We all get all that, but even me
vin cynical Jesse was shocked at the breadth of the pardon,
a back dated eleven year pardon.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Josh, please take it away.
Speaker 12 (38:09):
Yeah, Jesse, I think you and I have the exact
same thoughts on this. So I mean, I was constantly
of the course this past year, trying to prepare my
audience on America on Try with Josh Hammer for this
exact thing. I constantly said, do not believe this lying
man for a second. He is obviously going to pardon
Hunter Biden on his way out the door. Do not,
even for the slightest bit of time, take his words
even remotely seriously that he trusts the justice system.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
What a load of crap, I mean.
Speaker 12 (38:32):
Joe Biden has been an inveterate chronic liar his entire life,
going all the way back speaking of Clarence Thomas, going
all the way back to the Clarence Thomas hearings back
in ninety one, when he was parroting Anita Hill's lies
about sexual harassment in the workplace. Joe Biden was working
with Ted Kennedy to nuke Bob Borke back in eighty seven.
He's been a liar his entire political career, so I
never for a second believed that. But like you, I
(38:53):
also was caught at least a little off guard by
the fact that he was not even trying to hide
the fact that they were clearly tie up this to Brisma.
January twenty fourteen. How stupid, Jesse do they think we are?
I mean, what happened to the spring of twenty fourteen?
Have we been sleeping under.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
A rock for the past six years? Dude joins the
border Brisma.
Speaker 12 (39:13):
He's bagging in oodles and oodles of cash, millions and
millions a year there. I mean, it's just so farcical, honestly.
And even the way that they rolled this pardon out
was very legally sloppy from a lawyer perspective, because they
actually pardoned him then for all crimes up to the
very evening of the day that the partying came in
this past Sunday.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
But they said this.
Speaker 12 (39:34):
Around seven pm Eastern time, so Hunter Biden basically had
five three hours to commit whatever federal crime he wanted to.
You want to like traffic prostitutes across state lines. You
want to commit some sort of much worse attempts, whatever
it is, go for it.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Drug laws. We know he likes those laws.
Speaker 12 (39:51):
I mean, he basically had five hours of total free
reign there, so I and the whole thing was ridiculously sloppy. Unfortunately,
from a constitutional perspective, the president's part and power is
quite cleanary, it's basically absolute, So this is going to
stand unfortunately there.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
But what man, what an absolute joke?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Josh? Do you you think this paves the way?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Hopefully, this paves the way for all those January sixth
political prisoners to get off scott free. Surely it does, right,
Surely Trump walks in and says.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Hey, all of you go home.
Speaker 12 (40:25):
So that definitely is my hope, and that is my
expectation as well. And that is probably the number one
silver lining of this particular part in this particularly self
serving corrupt act of venality, the likes of which we
have never seen in modern American political history. My hope
is that Donald Trump does basically turn the tables come
January twenty twenty twenty five. I would think that the
(40:45):
Jake sixers are going to receive a mass part in
around the around the first day or two in office.
I will note that the Trump transition team has been
a little more sober of their language. They're saying, that'll
be a case by case at hock adjudication as to
who receives a part in there. That's fine, that's let's
lawyers speak, that's legal language there. But especially in the
aftermath of this, I think you and I both hope
(41:06):
and I do indeed expect that that sort of partner
is gonna happen. More generally speaking, though, kind of just
zoom me out for a second here, the Hunter Biden stuff,
the lawfair stuff, Jesse. In light of these recent developments,
what's good for the goose is surely good for the gander, right.
I mean, a lot of people are just telling Donald
Trump to take the moral high ground and be the
bigger man. Come January twenty twenty Twine, you and I
(41:27):
both know these consultants that are saying that there. I
am so sick of this when it comes to the
issue of pardons, when it comes to the issue of
Lawfair Merrick Garland, Jack Smith, all these hooligans there, it
is time to turn the tables and to not seek retribution,
but to get justice, justice for those who have so
grossly upended our constitutional order and undermined our cherished rule
of law in this.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Country, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Josh my friend as always, Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I feel better. I feel better. I'm gonna or even
better after light in the mood. That's next.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
All right, it is time to lighten the mood. And
so I figured to lighten.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
The mood, we might as well go ahead and talk
about my burgers once again. You see, if you go
subscribe to the YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash at
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Speaker 2 (42:31):
This a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's designed to put delicious meat with melty cheese on it.
It's designed to deliver those two things into your mouth.
Acceptable additions to a burger are, by the way, not
pickles either.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
You.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Pickle people are crazy. Now hold on, Corey, let me explain.
Let me explain.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
I'm not anti pickle.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, I like pickles as much as an Why are you?
I wish I could take that back, but you understand
what I'm saying. I'll eat a pickle. I'm fine if
the wife has some deal pickles at home. Sometimes you
get some from the store. All caamala down. A deal
pickle confineable. When you put a pickle on a burger,
it takes away from the big deal. The only acceptable
(43:21):
additions to a burger are things that in a way compliment, compliment.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
The meat in the cheese.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Where people go nuts is they start picking every little thing.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
I need.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Let us honeed tomatoes. We need extra pickles on this?
Should I get eight thousand onions? Then we need ketchup
mustard and mao, and then let's add some hot sauce
to it. It didn't need.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Any of that.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
You know what lima beans needs that.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I'll see them all
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