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it doesn't appear as if the EasternConference Finals is going to be all that
dramatic the rest of the way.Boston dominated Game two and the Pacers apparently
lost their best player. Now nothing'sofficial on Halliburton, but I think a

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hammy and you know again, there'snot these long delays between games. Both
series are every other day, soI think this is going to end fairly
shortly. The funny thing about Bostonis, like a lot of people,
I can watch them and be utterlyexasperated by a stretch of a single game,

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and definitely about the way they runtheir offense. But for all of
that, they're ten and two.They've lost two games, and so they're
they're going to get there, andthey're going to have some extra time because
I do think this series is goingto be a lengthy one minimum six.
Did Rosen is the did I?Yesterday? There was a text indicating that

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Rosen, even after Game one,said the Wolves will win in five?
Did he really? Have you heardthat? Are you that? No?
I was not locked in today andI wasn't really locked in yesterday unfortunately,
So I got no help for you. So I don't know. Maybe somebody
can tweet at me if indeed hesaid it, I don't. I don't
share that. I think this isgoing to be, at the very least

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a a long series. But Boston, I mean, it's also clear that
whatever chance the Pacers had to win, they couldn't blow Game one the way
they did. They utterly blew thatis a that's about as fundamentally you can
as you can blow a game asthere is. I mean, it's just

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it's uncanny to me how that thingwas lost. And Mitchell, who Sam
Mitchell, who joined yesterday, whois loath to, you know, put
too much on coaches because he usedto be one, and it gets that
whole bit in the fraternity. Heput all of it on the guy who
admitted it, Rick Carlisle. Still, I guess I'm amazed that an experienced

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coach would make the mistakes that theymade in that first time, honestly,
because you know, would they wouldthey have won the series if they won
Game one, especially now with theHalliburton injury. I will never know,
but that was their only chance,right, that was there where you go,
well, maybe put a little doubtin their heads, you gain a
little confidence. And it's one onegoing back to the to the best basketball

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venue in America, in the world, in the world. And who used
to say, but I believe itthe butterfly effect too, Like if you
win game one, right, thengame two is different for everybody. Then
does Halliburton even get hurt? Youknow, as silly as that is,
but I do think there's something toall of it. And yeah, I
think Andy's been living a pretty charmedlife even getting there, right with some

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of the teams that they've had toplay, certainly playing the Knicks in the
second round as beaten up as NewYork was even before they got into the
playoffs, and then to have someof the other injuries and other things pop
up. They were living that charmedlife. And it appears like that charm
is over. So Boston is weird, and it is because like last night,
you know, Brown just gets fortypoints, not out of nowhere,
because he's good. He's obviously aperennial All NBA type guy, even though

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I don't necessarily love how he playsall the time. We've talked about that.
It seems like the last few yearsit's kind of it's kind of the
Dallas principle where they got two guysthat can go off at any given moment,
in big moments, in postseason spots, and that is what makes them
difficult. If one of those guysis going, there's not much you can
do about it. Yeah, II mean, the theory on Boston is

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can you trust their offense in yeah, you say close games because it doesn't
feel like they run much. Buthere's another thing to factor in. They're
ten and two and perhaps well definitelytheir most important offseason acquisition, Porzingis has
barely played, yes, right,so you you do have to factor that
into the equation. And a lotof people have projected that they can't win

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the title without a healthy Porzingis.That might be true, you know,
I don't know, but they've youknow, the bottom line is, in
the end, they're they're they're good. The record is extremely good and uh,
they're going to be formidable for whoever, whether it's it's it's Dallas or
US matched up. Well, that'sthe thing. People say, Well,
can they win a title? They'veonly got to beat two more teams.

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You know, we said that alltwo, three, four weeks ago,
when you still have everybody available toyou, and it feels a lot more
ominous. I mean, what's crazyabout now is there's four teams left that
can win the thing, like you'vealready gone through. You know, the
other handful of teams that you wouldhave to worry about. Would be interesting
with Boston is they know the rhetoricaround them right now is anything but a

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title is disappointing. You talked aboutthe gravy conversation earlier in the week before
this series started. They're the onlyones that the gravy bowl is empty.
They're done with the gravy right thisparticular group, their gravy was probably the
Eastern Conference finals when Isaiah Thomas wastheir point guard and Tatum and Brown were
young. That was their gravy era. If their Taylor Swift, that era

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is over. Like there now it'swe need everything. I think one of
the Texters are. One of thetalkbacks that we took said, I want
I need the meat, I needthe potatoes, I need everything. There's
no more gravy on them. Yeah, and how do they handle that,
because you certainly know they The onething this group has not done is win
a title, and Tatum I thinkis pretty well isolated from the criticism so
far. But if they don't,if they don't win a title this year,

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they're they're gonna hear a lot aboutit. I would imagine, giving
their regular season dominance, their easyroad to the finals, so to speak,
and then they got to beat oneof these two teams we talked too.
Obviously, Edwards has to score more. But one of the things that
I think again got lost because ofthe loss, because then everything seems horrible.
Is he actually if you look atsome of us, I think he

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was like to assists from a tripledouble. Yeah, he rebounded. Well,
you know again, he is askedto do a lot of different things,
and I didn't think his overall floorgame was awful by any means.
And I think that's all getting lostbecause that's two straight games where he has
not scored effectively, right three tothe last four. He scored fewer than
twenty. That's it. But youknow, it's funny because we've kind of

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asked him, well, no,you got to do other things too if
you're going to be a great player, and then he's he's still subtly doing
those things, and now it's well, you better go score. So in
an odd sort of way, Ithink Edwards now is a terrible turnover at
the end of the half, there'sno question, yep. But I almost
think he's getting a little bit toomuch grief because there are other aspects of
what he was doing in Game onethat were actually I thought pretty effective.

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For most of the game, theywere in relative control of the situation.
They it was. It reminded mea little bit, Hey, DJ mad
mart again, unbelievable, what's goingon. Don't hurt your shoulder, Aaron,
don't hurt your shoulder. It's gota long time. I told the
relations Tombs that that Will Bond gavehim a shout out again the award winning.
It's getting out of hand quite frankly, and you know what it is.

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They're gonna get cocky. I knowit's gonna go to their heads.
Well, Rudy, Rudy says he'sstill got more room in the stomach.
He's not full, so hopefully thatfilters down to everybody. It reminded me
of I was watching The Last Dance, you know, on the way to
Denver to get ready game seven,you know, get myself in the right
mental frame of mind. And itwas game one of the Finals, I
think in ninety eight, where theyended up losing in overtime, the Bulls

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against the Jazz, and they hadthe huddle and Phil Jackson was saying,
this is a scary, bleeping situation, guys. This game should be dead
meat right now, and it endedup going into overtime. And that's kind
of how I felt the whole Gameone was because the Wolves controlled it for
much of it, right, Imean, they were never down by it
more than a handful of points.Now, they were never up by more

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than seven or eight, but italways felt like they were, you know,
one or two minutes away, oneor two possessions away from getting that
ten point leader, getting that twelvepoint d time out. Jason Kidd,
Mark Cuban like the game. MarkCuban's hitting the gatorade cooler next to him.
He's mad about how yeah, he'ssitting right next to the gateor raade
second row at the end of thebench. My wife was all over it,

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right, Shark Tank Cuban, youhad to do it. So we
found him, we found Waldo.But that whole game, I'm thinking they're
one good two minute stretch from endingit, or as Phil Jackson would say,
dead meeting it. And they justnever got that stretch. And then
what happened. Luca was there andLuca closed it. So like they didn't
play great. Obviously, I knowFinch, he's mad about a million different
things, but that whole game,I never felt like they were going to

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lose with how the game was going, did you. I mean no,
I was. It got later andyou see, okay, they're kind of
making these runs a little bit,I got more. I thought, well,
you might have blown your opportunity todominate. Yeah, put it a
dead meat time, yep. Butyeah, no, I never did it
either. It's one O two ninetyeight with three minutes left. You know,
Cat hits the three to put himback up one. You go,
okay, like it's gotten a littlehairy, But they've figured this out a

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lot this season, and then theydidn't give up. It was like they
gave up one hundred and thirty points, No, and then obviously they had
the turnovers, and there's your ballgame. Like, that's how you lose that
game when you when you seemingly havea game in control enough where it's not
gonna be a dominant victory, butyou're gonna grease out a game one win,
coming off a tough game seven inDenver, coming home and protecting your
home court. That's just kind ofhow it felt the whole time. But
when you shrink the margin freir thatmuch and you don't put a team away

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Lavelle's in the building. He's inthe Attarget Center cage location. Uh,
sweating like a duck pig right now, but we'll we'll try to get
him cooled off. Your next segment. Harlan scheduled to stop by our location
at about five, and it's lookinglike Tim Conley might have a family responsibilities.

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We'll see how that goes when stillstill holding out hope that we might
get him before we wrap things upat at six thirty. I hope he
you know what I should have saidto him, because he texted like,
so you know how long when youguys done? I should have lied and
said eight o'clock. Yeah, becauseany would have an excuse, right right?
Well tip off? Well yeah,that would be it. I hope
he treats WDFN out of Detroit betterwhen he when he takes over for them.

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That's vicious, now, that's that. Oh yeah, that's that.
You're right, that's right, that'sright. Although I gotta be honest,
Johnny didn't paint a like that positivea picture about still the possibility being,
especially if the Wolves do advance fromthis this round, somebody else a wild
card team saying you know what,we're going to break the bank. I

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mean, it is good news thatthe Pistons job is filled, because that
was the most obvious one, andthere were already reports out of Detroit that
they intended to put out feelers tosee if he was interested and might be
willing to go to fifteen MILLI year. It's a lot of money that now
you know that that's that's closed,but that doesn't mean there's not something else.
And as much as we said ithas not, it seems to have
had no impact on the team's performanceat all for people like in Conley's position

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and other people. The whole managementor the whole ownership thing, it is
huge matters time. It's massive,and it is an open issue that is
not yet resolved. And we're backto well, what's the best way for
it to be resolved? Who?Who celebrates who? You know, which
side ends up winning? Right,There's a lot of variables there. There's
one person who is immune and unaffectedand I and I say immune and it's

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no pun intended, and it's JeffMunichy, the lowe original employee. Because
nothing stops it. He survives atall, He revels in all. He's
fine with whoever gets it, becauseif anything happens to Munichy, then it's
over for everybody. That's true.Then everybody goes nuts. Well, that's
because he knows all the secrets thepeople are. Everybody is afraid of them
in this organization because they know heknows too much. And don't let the

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kindness fool you. No, yeah, exactly, And he'll be in the
skyway like he is every night,escorting fans in and making sure that they're
all good to go. But itis interesting for you know, like the
president of the team, right,Ethan Cassen, Right, Like, Okay,
well we just had to suck upto these guys for two years,
but now they might not own theteam. But I kind of like him

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or maybe oh I'm glad that thishas fallen through him. Maybe, But
did I did? I side toomuch of him now and his glen mad
like and anybody that's blow you know, in the actual business side, the
male clinic square side that had thecubicles in the offices I'm sure they're thinking,
like, what are we doing here? What's going on? It's and
and you know, as Johnny remindedus, it's not It's not like they're

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gonna sit down for one session andthat's gonna be resolved day one whenever that's
coming, and allegedly that's coming soon. He's just gonna be the first step
in the process. I guess theonly good thing is it's supposed to be
binding. But my assumption is theway these things work, there is there
an appeal process. Do you goto court challenge so dug in that I

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I don't think it's likely that eitherside is going to say, okay,
I lost far and square, oryou want it far and square and I'm
gonna move on now with the restof my life. I don't think there's
any reason to believe that's how thisis going to go. You think one
of the sides will be saying stopthe steal. Essentially is whyeah, there'll
be election deniers when it comes tothe binding arbitration agreement. How devastating would

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that be if then you end uplosing Tim Conley? I mean probably depends
on if they win the title thisyear, If you've got a title out
of it. It might be easierto accept anything, right, you say,
Hey, whatever happens going forward,we made history. The franchise that
was never gonna win anything won something. Right. If it's worst case they

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lose in this series, uh,and then you and you lose Tim conn
Well, the all they think it'sgoing to be. Are we on the
verge of going right back to wherewe were? And what's scary? Then
the domino is okay? Who comesin? Does Finchy like them? Does
he like Finchy? What's aunt thinkof all that? I mean, you
could definitely play out worst case scenario. Most guys are signed for a while,

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so it shouldn't come to that,right, but it could eventually,
as we've seen in a lot ofother NBA circles, in a worst case
scenario. If that plays out,and these are all worst case deals here,
do you think we could get GersonRosas back to run the franchise?
Well, he started this whole train. Who drafted Anthony Edwards. Gerson Ross
hired Chris Finch Rosas, who foundnasried Rosa. I mean enough said we

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have pickleball courts here. He hadone mistake and he wasn't very friendly to
some people. Apparently he hurt somefeelings. Yeah, oh sorry, and
he's remarried. Yeah, what's everybody? Well, he's in the he's part
of the Knickerbocker power structure. Heis, he's considered one of their main
voices. He really is the rosascoming back, I mean, Flip came
back twice. Not quite the samecircumstances. We speaking of coming back,

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we don't think it's kg's night tonight. But it was interesting that it was
a story at it was at NBAdot Com had the story a nice feature
on Jimmy jam and Jimmy went asvocal and frontal as I've ever heard him,
And I should have said, Ishould have gotten the quote out for

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the purposes of discussing it here.On the question of KG coming back,
Jimmy for the first tended to sortof like stay out of that stuff,
kind of say, hey, lookin the end here, you can't let
hate. You can't let any whateverhatred you have or whatever feelings you have.
Life's too short to get in theway of being at a place where
you should be, which I thoughtwas interesting. I wondered if that means

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he knows something. But I alsothought it was a good message being delivered
via media to KG himself. Yeah, get back. Yeah, they want
you there, they need you there. You belong there, and you can
go to Boston. And to behonest, as a couple people pointed out
to us, it may be hatredas the main reason he does come back

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if it allows him to suck upmore to Laurie and a Rod and to
continue almost to in that sense,throw it in the face of Glenn Taylor.
So he may do it still forvengeful reasons, out of spite,
even though you'd like to think it'sWe're rising above I'm rising above this now
there's too much. You know,life's too short, and I'm gonna move
on with the rest of my life. It would be they got the scene.

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Oh yeah, Sean Sinners nine crew, that's Skinner's got the towels did
a nice job for the first twosegments of enough set Yeah, and then
got bored with it. Yeah,it's unbelievable. We were there for all
the way. Let's remind folks,enough said. Believe it or not,
you may not want to watch itat nine thirty if you're a Wolves fan,
but we're on at seven thirty onthe Plus nine thirty and Fox nine.
We do cover some timeless Wolve stuff. I think very seamless. Stevie

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right exactly, DVR. It's notthat tough. It's something you know,
you got a million other things you'regonna do this whole weekend, right,
and it won't. It's timeless.It's not like we're analyzing Game one in
any way, shape or form,not knowing what's gonna what will have happened
in Game two. It's Evergreens saying, now Lorie Fisher will be feelf because
I meant to get to that yesterdaynight. She was bitter about the fact
that I didn't. And I don'tthink there are any Lori faux pause this

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week. Big ones were there?Yeah, no, not like last week.
Last week? How many was allright? I mentioned lovel He is
in the house. We're gonna checkin with him. He's I think he's
writing live off of Game two tonight. Harlan to follow, and whether we
have Connley or not, we'll havesome fun in the final ninety minutes of

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the show as well. We areat the Target Center cage location. I'll
stop buying wave I would prefer younot moon us. I would prefer you
not remove your shirt, even thoughbecause of Max, who is going to
join me after you have to leave, you may be inspired by that,
but whatever works for you. Fairto say, there was one person in
the skyway for Game one. Youdidn't see it, but who did essentially

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have his shirt off seriously and notin the same spirit that Max did.
It was a little unsettling. Helbyand I were worried for a minute,
and then thankfully that individual moved furtherdown the skyway. Even better, back
in a minute from the from thegreat ministers, I was going to say
that to get together because you talkedabout upset. That's what I want.
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at our spot and we got Leavellin the house right now. I'm confused,
as I mean, glad to haveyou, but and you're a Friday
regular, but I'm confused. You'renot writing live your Sunday Colm's already done,
So why are you here? Well, it's on the I talked.
I spent the week talking to someguys from fourteen and so if anyone,

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any any alumni from that squad showup to that may make a runout to
add just spruce it up a littlebit exactly. Okay, that include KG
if he shows up. If KGshows up, didn't change everything, Yeah,
that's a that's a total tear down. Yeah, actually it wouldn't wait
till Sunday. We probably have somebodyright for tomorrow. The rumor is the
most persistent rumor is that he willshow up for Game five, that that's

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gonna be if it's going to happenin this series, that it's probably gonna
happen in five or seven. Soyou picked who to win the series before
it began. All right. Istill like the Worlve's chances. Okay,
but you picked him before. Yeah, and you're sticking with that despite what
took place in the opener. Yeah, I mean a lot of things.
I mean it is these games aregreat because you got a couple of days

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to go over and analyze, reanalyzeand come of all sorts of adjustments to
be made, you know, andmaybe too much, but it's sports and
people like talking about so you gothrough it. You can usually over an
It was a one possession game,and yesterday I sat in the press conference,
really informative press conference with Stan VanGundy and Reggie Miller, and Van

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Gundy was like, I don't knowwhat how many justments that would make it
was one? It was a onepossession game. You know, if you
play better, if you take careof the little details, if you take
care of you're in you know,that can make the difference, or just
hit some more shots, you know, so we it can be simple sometimes
and sometimes it can be complex.But I think that was not It's not

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the Wolves performance we have seen frommost of the games this postseason, so
you like their chances they're going showingreturning to that personality in Game two.
Recurring theme for us is exactly that. What the best coaches do in series
like these is they tweak. Theymake changes regardless of the score if they

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think they need to be made,but they don't overreact or you write a
memo say hey, the Western ConferenceFinal, the finals will be gun.
Exactly it, And that's the challenge. You don't throw everything out on the
basis of what, as you say, was a couple scores game. Basically,
I do think there's some things theyneed to do considerably better. And
that clearly was the message that thehead coach was attempting to deliver. Anything

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else interesting from Van Gundy and orReggie that caught your attention, Well,
they're on different sides of how thisis going to turn out. Reggie thinks
that the winner of this series isgoing to win the title. Really yes,
interesting. Then Gunny gets huge onthe Celtics, he was like number
one offense, number two defense.He says, they have five guys you
have to guard. You can't leaveanybody alone. And they have five guys

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who like to guard as well.He just thinks from top to bottom in
this team in the league. Doesthat mean he though, believes they need
Porzingis to win it, or thatthey can win it even if Porzingis is
either unavailable or not what he wasduring the regular season. I think Reggie
mentioned how much they could use Porzingis. I don't think Stan was worried about

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Porzingis not being online with that teamanyway. I mean, you know,
I know the alternative is more AlHorford, and Indiana has tried to go
at him, you know all thesegames, Yes, but it hasn't worked
out. Although they should have wonGame one absolutely and they have. Indiana
has not lost at home since Marcheighteenth. Okay, so if they just
steal one game in Boston come backto the hostile Horrors, you know they've

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got a good shot to pull offthe upset. But I don't like their
chances. Now. How concerned areyou even to someone who picked the Wolves
is sticking with that? Is thereany hesitation or any concern when you see
that the Mavericks have two primetime wingscorers who are playing great together. And

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we saw it. I mean thefirst game, Kyrie was the best player
in the house first half sco ortwenty four. Uh, Luca was definitely
the best player in the house secondhalf as well. Because those are the
kinds of guys no matter how goodyour plans are, Guys like that,
when they get going, they're dangerous. They can literally turn a series around.

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So how much fear do you haveof the Wolves ability to limit at
least one of them enough? Uh, I'm a little nervous about that because
I want to you wonder if antsexplosiveness in Game one was due to the
fact he was he had to guardKyrie and Kyrie was giving it to him
a little bit. Two. Idon't know how to plo how you play

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Luca, you know, because Iwant to say, keep keep him off
his spot, but his spot's prettymuch anything past mid court. You know.
The only thing is upset is rhythm, because he likes to just back
you down and then do that thatturnaround fatally shot. Maybe you disrupt his
footsteps, his footwork and get himoff. That way, you can slow
him down at times, but uhand maybe double force the other three guys

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to beat you. You know.The one thing that irked me about game
one was that Jason kitt knows whathe has and Gafford and Lively, Yes,
all right, they basically a sharein the center spot. All right,
they're playing their assets off for twentyfour minutes each, you know,
heart hustle effort. You know,I think they combined in game one for
nineteen points and twenty one rebounds outof that spot and go baar in Towns,

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I combined for like what seventeen pointsand nine rebounds or something like that
was something observed or thirteen rebounds,and I was like, that can't happen.
You know. Now the Wolves havebeen sounds like the Wolves were so
hell bent on watching out not gettingburned from three that the paint was they
pretty much lost the paint war.You know, I don't think that could
happen either. You know, that'sgot to be addressed. They should not

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be getting out rebounded. So yeah, there are a couple of things that
need to be addressed here to moveforward. I just saw some of these
people in Skyway the Well, here, here's the interesting thing. You make
an important point about the way Kiduses his front court people in that there
they stay relatively fresh. He's gotto move in, in and out a

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lot, and that's and you cantell that's been part of I think what
they've figured out about what maximizes whatthey can do, and they become you
know, the Mavericks. If yougo back to like they made the conference
finals two years ago, I thinkthey were reviewed as a little bit of
a finesse team. They're cute,but they're not really tough enough. They've

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got now some toughness to go alongwith, like I said, some big
time scoring, and they finished theseason strong. I think they were twenty
one and twenty two and nine thelast third something like that. They made
the trade, couple of trades thathelped out. So they're a very different
team even than the one that theWolves saw. And that's why all along
I felt it was a long series. I did pick the like you,

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I picked the Wolves, but Ialways all along felt this was a six
or seven game series. And Ithink a lot of people assume, well,
you beat Denver, Denver's defending champions, and so how good could Dallas
b they got to play Oklahoma City. Yeah, top seed but very inexperienced,
et cetera. Yeah, I meanyou're right, You're right. I
yeah, I'm not backing off mymind prediction at all here. I still

(28:11):
think the Wolves can prevail God,and I'm thinking about it. Was just
complaining about over analysis and analyzing it. You're gonna do that, I don't
do it. Well, it's hardnot to scratch the edge. They got
fair out. They got fair outway to get Ants to the rim.
There's no question Dallas did a greatjob of either double team of him or
threatening a double team, or justsagging towards the towards the basket to cut

(28:33):
off driving lanes for Ant and that'sgotta be fixed. Uh well, I
don't know if that's spacing on offenseor better ball movement or what. Well,
I think part of it. WeJohnny and I talked about this and
guards and I even talked about itthat before the Johnny came on there.
If there is a way, Ithink the Wolves should try to give Edwards

(28:57):
some minutes where he's not forced toguard Kyrie. Now, it's complicated because
your options are limited. There's nottoo many guys. Other guys you can
do that with. Well, that'swhy I was gonna say, I think
you. I actually think in minuteswhere you have Kyle Anderson on the on
the court, that he is aguy who can guard Lucas some with some

(29:21):
physicality at least, and then youcould move Jaden over. I think McDaniels
is the logical guy to move overand get it doesn't I'm not just about
the whole game, right, butI think he needs some minutes because he
looked like Anthony Edwards much more thisyear than last year, has been in
shape. He came to camp inshape much more so than the previous years,

(29:44):
where occasionally he felt like I thoughthe was woefully out of shape.
He worked he internationally all summer,so he was in great shape. He
was he was kind of I mean, running around in this game almost like
it was training camp again. Andhe he had spent the whole summer doing
nothing but he and so I thinkif you can give him some selective minutes
where you're not asking him to doeverything, because Dallas is not asking Luca

(30:08):
to guard the world's best scorers.They're not asking Kyrie to do that.
For an extended period, strategically speaking, give him some minutes where he's not
working quite as hard on the defensiveend. I think they should attempt to
do that. If they could findthe right person. Naw would be one,
but Na's got to hit some shots, right Sloo maybe well, I

(30:29):
think SlowMo more. I don't thinkSloMo can guard Kyrie. I do think
he can guard Luca some. That'swhere I say, if you've got Jayden
on the court at the same time, you slide Jayden over for some minutes
to Kyrie. So if you bringuh, if you bring Naw in uh,
that means you're taken off Conley,right that potentially that's initiate the offense.
That's true too. You're losing somethingthere, you are you potentially are,
or you're adding again to his responsibility. And we all know that that

(30:52):
that that the team runs better ifhe's not always having to do it.
But he has done it from timeto time, right right, right,
I mean as possible, anything's possible. It's always good to throw another wrinkle
at the team. Yeah, seemyou know, just to keep them,
keep them on their toes as well, keep them thinking. So we'll see
how We'll see how that plays out. I don'm not I'm not against that.
I think it's worth trying out acouple of times to see what works.

(31:14):
We Also, we already have Auntlike a seven year veteran who already
knows all the ups and downs inthe league. And and you know,
it's commendable that he's going old schoolin a bit, I want Kyrie best
players not backing down from a challenge. You know, but man still just
twenty two years old, and it'she's in his first serious postseason run.
You know, every game's learning experience. I've been impressed with how the Wolves

(31:37):
have improved as a team since theplayoffs have begun. You know, they're
game one now when standing their attentionto detail, staying mentally focused, uh,
digging down for stops when they needhim. It's just been a lot
of Uh, Carl not complaining aboutfiles as much. He still is,
but he's better at that. Youknow. Jayden fighting his offense a little

(32:01):
bit. I think that's now thefact he can't be the lead score like
he was in Game one, butfinding a little offense in most cases a
big boom for the rest of thesquad. So I like how they've learned
but expecting it have to have itall figured out right now. It's a
little unfair the gap. They're Bigtwo outscoring our big two sixty three to
thirty five. That's too big agap. I don't think they have to

(32:22):
match them. The gap cannot possiblybe that particularly that big. It's just
not gonna work. I think it'salso fair to say that, Well,
let me ask you, did thiscome up? Did this subject? Was
this presser yesterday with Van Gundy andReggie yesterday morning? It was awesome too.
It was like it was in alittle conference room at the Lofton Hotel

(32:43):
the street. Let me ask youthis part of it. If this subject
came up because we spent some timeon what became kind of a viral ESPN
generated story. Well, it mayhave been generated originally by by by Barkley,
but they went they they doubled downon it. And that was the
notion that Edwards made a significant mistakebringing up the name of Kyrie Irving during

(33:07):
the triumphant interview after the Wolves wonGame seven against Denver. I thought it
was a crock of b s thatthere was nothing confrontational. There was nothing
controversial if he actually anybody bothered tolisten to what Edwards said that he should

(33:27):
have to apologize for. But youknow how the machinery goes. Man,
it's a cool angle, and youknow Kyrie has this big first half.
Kyrie, when asked about it,when prompted, did go down that road.
I thought it was absolutely much adoabout nothing. Did that and all
come up with Reggie and or VanGundy. It didn't come up. I
agree with you. I thought itwas a little bit overblown saying that as

(33:49):
a guy, as a Chicago guy. Yeah, who grew up idolizing a
guy who would use another player havinga better manicure than him to go out
and score fifty on him. Okay, So I think in this case they're
looking for anything. Yeah, Ithink since Kyrie won, he can kind
of stick his chest out a littlebit. Probably wouldn't have heard a thing
about this if the Wolves would havewon game won. That's the irony exactly

(34:09):
exactly. So yeah, I justthought, you know, because pretty much
said I got Kyrie, So we'llsee how it goals some to the extent.
Yeah, we played the sound biteyesterday a couple of times. He
didn't even say, well, I'mgonna win. I'm gonna win the thing.
We'll see how I do or we'llsee how the thing goes. It
was very a matter of fact,and I just hate that because we've heard

(34:30):
these sort of angles before, andplayers are capable of grabbing onto stuff even
when it's not there. That's fine, but that's that's not the guy who
was getting criticized. I think itwas stephen A including was was It was
the the old polk and the bearthing that wasn't poking the band. It
really was just it's just insulting.I just let it go and stop.

(34:51):
There's already enough interest in this series, as say is, you don't have
to work hard to create controversy atcreate talking points. I actually do want
to ask a Twins question or tworeal quick. Finally, this is like
the first Twins fan has walked pasthis cage and every game starts in an
hour and fifteen minutes. Oh that'sright, that's right, they're back in
town. The good point they infact they changed the game time. Did
they not so accommodate the traffic issues? So here's what I want to know.

(35:14):
We've had two interesting wrinkles since we'vetalked last from the Twins, one
involving the closer basically saying, don'tblame me for throwing a lollipop curveball.
I was ordered to do it.And then we had the manager just frontally
disemboweling the lineup for not being willingto make adjustments more quickly. And that's

(35:36):
very unrocko, like with the oneexception of that showdown time in Atlanta last
year. But I also did thinkit was interesting that the closer would be
that public about whatever was going onthere, about who made the call.
And I can't overrule anybody, etcetera. So do we have any sign
of restlessness about how everybody is gettingalong here? What do you make of

(35:58):
those two developments? I think interms of Durand's case, you know,
he uses an interpreter to talk,I'm wonder if there's still something in the
translation that got twisted a little bitwhere he said something really don't But he
also may be and these a lotof these pictures exist. They don't want
to think, so put down theput down the fingers, or hit the
button on the pitch, com tellme what the throw is. I just

(36:20):
focus on execute. But do wediscourage them from thinking? Is our mentality
in this analytic age the way werun out this organization? Do they are
we discouraging pictures from wanting to thinkfor themselves? Because I'm pretty sure Sonny
Gray called his own games well yeah, but Sonny great pushed back on a
lot of stuff that was happening heretoo, right about when I'm coming out
and all that sort of thing.I think the Twins are right in that

(36:43):
regard. Though they've gone through theseason. They had a hell of a
year. Yeah, but I thinkthat's earned. I think a veteran picture
who knows his way around the blackprobably gets leeway in terms of uh,
I don't want to go by thebook here. I want to go off
script here and throw something up onthis guy. I think they still have
that ability. But I now ifDuran meant what he said, and that's

(37:05):
on him. Because you can alwaysshake off the catcher, you know you
can, it still happens. Again. Here's the complication there. We talked
to provis about this. The pitchingcoach is a Mackie. He had just
been out there, so I'm wonderingif in this case maybe he did feel
a little bit more intimidated because Idon't know what Mackie said. Maggie said,
Hey, look, man, curveballbreaking balls, don't don't mess with

(37:29):
this guy. Just just trust uson this. I don't know, but
I'm wondering if that's why. Maybein his mind, Duran's mind, it
went beyond just shaking off the catcherand other thing too. Dan, that
curveball was a mess last year forhim. He lost it for like a
six weeks man, and he struggled. So I don't know if he's masked
to that pitch yet or at thispoint, so I'm kind of surprised that

(37:52):
that would be the selection. Butthen yesterday he gave up another home run,
a splitter on that splinker thing hethrows, so well, he's got
wonderful fastball. He's gone to stickwith it and just try to hide those
other pitches a little bit for now, and maybe maybe they want to throw
the curve so you can get thefeel for it, get the command for
it. It's still relatively early inthe season, although we're almost at the

(38:13):
end of May here, and andstuff comes and goes as the season goes
along. Sometimes pictures have alder stuffat the beginning of the year and lose
it. Some guys don't have apitch till later in this season. You
know, it very some picture ofthe picture. As far as Rocko on
the lineup, Rocco is really measuredabout things. That was unlike Rocco.

(38:34):
But so what does that tell you? That tells me that he was really
fed up and he picks his spots, you know, because if you do
it frequently, then it does.I think Rocco knew at the time that
he needed to say something and makeit clear that that wasn't accepting what was
going on at the play, andI'm sure that he addressed it with them
before he told the media. That'sthe that's the way he likes to operate.

(38:55):
I will say this, I'm baffledthat they had this they reverted back
to this crap because they started outthe season in the same in the same
problems. Everybody knows you can't throwthe Twins a bunch of fastballs. They
are a fastball hitting team. Teamsheight their fastball against the Twins, and
there's players the are like Kirolf andLarnik. They barely see fastballs. They

(39:16):
see breaking stuff all the time.I thought they found themselves. There's ESPN's
yummy suck walking into this there.They they got right during that road trip
when they went to Anaheim and itlooked like they stopped chasing stuff off the
plate, made pictures come to them, and the offense got going. Somehow

(39:36):
we reverted back. I don't knowif it's Yankees and this is a Yankees
f field slump, you know,because the Yankee pitchers is pretty dog on
good. But yeah, they kindof went back to bad habits here,
so they gotta get out of that. They still I don't think they came
back the next day and blew Washingtonout and then they had a squeaker yesterday.
So now yes say day for yesterday, and so we'll see how it

(39:57):
goes today against the texts the airborneTexas Rangers and offending World Series. So
we were a series champion Texas Rangers. Yeah, the timing is interesting there
with the Mavericks in town as well. We got two minutes left. Let's
come back to the Wolves. Whatdo you want? What's for you at
the top of your food chain listof what you need to see from the
Wolves tonight? You say that?Now? Yeah, oh that we're going

(40:20):
to breakdown. Yeah, you're donein a minute. I want I want,
I want Ant and Cat to takedirect routes to the basket, try
to finish, try to dunk onpeople, draw fouls, get to the
line. I think that will freeup the rest of the offense, especially
free up force the guys teams tocollapse so they can maybe dish off to
another player, but they got toget to the paint. I think their

(40:40):
offense will will hum a little smoother, a lot smoother that those who guys
are are finding driving lanes. Wedon't want for the second straight game Rudy
Gobert to be our leading free throwattempter, right, I think he had
six, Cat and Anthony had acombined four. That's not gonna work.
No, it's not. And wegot watch out now. As these games
get more meaningful, teams may revertto the file the Frenchman Act. That's

(41:06):
really latent games here, so wegot to watch out for that here.
That's very, very true. Itwe've had so few close games up until
now that it has been immterial.And he by the way, which series
was it the Phoenix or Denvershire?One of the series he actually shot great
by his standards from the free throwline, but I'm not sure you can
continue to count on that. Ithink that was a Phoenix series. Yeah,

(41:28):
yeah, you know, take careof the bob, keep your heads.
I thought that three minute period inthe fourth quarter when he kind of
let things slip away, when whenthey didn't score a basket for like three
minutes, a lot of that.They lost their poison a little bit there,
Jade. I still remembered a crazydrive down the lane Jaydon, and
then that was terrible pass out thecat. You know that stuff can happen.
You got this stuff. You gotto eliminating the five turnovers in the

(41:49):
fourth quarter and they had like afive straight empty possessions last two minutes of
a very winnable game. Thanks forcoming to see us. Enjoyed a night
saturfter. The rumor is Randy Mosswas coming to night. Have you heard
that one? I have not heard. That. Be great to see him.
When will he be sitting with JJ? Because JJ was a game one,
that's true. He was yep.Yeah, so I don't know,
but he wasn't. I was surprised. You JJ was baseline good seats.

(42:09):
But he wasn't courtside? No,maybe maybe if he signs the extension,
he'll be able to get back tocourt side seats. If KG shows up,
would he sit next to Glenn Tayloror next to Arod? He would
sit one hundred percent next to arod and that would give him the vantage
point so that he could stare daggersat Glen across the court. Believe me,

(42:29):
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