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Just in case you missed it,it's the top five sports talkers of the
day. Now it's time for DanBarrero's Top five at five O. We're
got John Krasinski back from Denver,will join at about five thirty this evening.
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We will be at the Cage forGames one and two of the Western
Conference Finals Wednesday night and again onFriday night as well. Tip off both
nights is seven thirty. A lotof good guests that will, we hope
be joining us from the Target CenterCage location. I gotta believe the skyway
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is going to be hopping like ithas rarely ever hopped in Minnesota Timberwolves Target
Center history. Don't you think?Yes, I think it's going to be
festive. It's going to be fun. I'm assuming, by the way,
prices are back ump from that slidethey took for Game six. Yeah.
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Remember so tickets went on sale todayat noon I believe. Yeah. And
from what I saw, the getin price upper level was like one forty
eighth plus fees, so probably likeone seventy one Is that more than it
was for what yes, how youcan price for the last round was ninety
eight? It was under hundred.I don't know what the lower levels looked
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like, because I don't think they'rereally were any available now because everybody gets
their tickets. You're going to goright back out now, correct onto the
resale moment. We're gonna I'm surewe'll have Kilbourn on at some point this
week as well. But he ishe weakening on his pledge that he wouldn't
come back unless the team made theNBA Finals. I'm wondering. I gotta
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believe he might be weakening on thaton the basis of the way, the
inspired way they they they they theyclimbed out of the hole, planted their
feet against don't you my god?A little surprised that he Yeah, he
didn't go to Denver, although maybehe did and he was just quiet about
it. No, I don't thinkhe did. I don't think he did.
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Not that bad a flight, isit? L come on? Fourteen
minutes? It's pretty quick. Yeah, it's pretty quick. By the way.
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to I'm not going to whide youabout that. I'm not going to disagree
with you. Uh, the MinnesotaTwins remember today's Monday, right, Yes,
Remember when the Yankees hit town aweek ago today? Well I remember
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that. Yeah, because we lostall those games, swept the Brooms.
We went in for a showdown seriesthe Cleveland Guardians, so we still had
time to recover from the Yankee disaster. We were two and a half games
out. How that goal it's inthe American League Central. Uh, well,
Rocco, you tell us we knowit's not good baseball. Yeah,
that's pretty much it. They lostthree two on Friday, eleven to four
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on Saturday. They were down elevenrip on Saturday, and then I think
got a Grand slam in like this. They scored, they scored last they
got. It wasn't a Grand Slam, and they got some help defensively.
I think they scored, like yousaid, four runs. But they were
down eleven nil at that point andthen they lost. They got they were
behind together is like every game ofthe Yankee series except for that first rue.
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We were down early, almost immediately. And I think that happened again
last yesterday afternoon in Cleveland. Theywere down to zero. They rallied in
the top of the ninth, theywere trailing two to one, tied it
up, and then they got walkedoff for the three run dogs. Why
by Brennan who gave it up?Duran correct? And did you see he
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claimed he did not want to throwthe breaking ball. I just do what
I'm told. I assume that mustmean that that's that was what the catcher,
you know, asked him to throw. And he's had He's given up
a couple of dogs lately. Sothey're five and a half games back.
Now they've lost many in the rows. At six, that would be six,
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Yeah, it'll be six because theygot swept. They got swept by
the Yankees, had the off day, and then got swept over the weekend
by the Guardians. They've lost sevenof eight because they lost the game in
the Blue Jays series as well theroad trip Pats. They're at the at
the Nationals tonight to stop around thehill tonight, Pablo Lopez, who we
plan the Washington Nationals. Ben Gesling'sold beat versus Mitchell Parker. Is that
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still on the road? Did yousay? Is on the road? Exactly
right? So that first pitch aboutforty minutes from now, Corey Probus will
join. I believe tomorrow we'll negotiatewith Tim TV Voice of your Minnesota Twins.
Xander Shoftley finally got the major thathad eluded him. He wins had
to birdie eighteen. He turned ina seven under final round to finish twenty.
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I should say I'm sorry, hangon, let me get the scores
up because it it looked for aminute like the playoff was actually gonna happen.
Anybody else get arrested? No,I do have a Scottie Scheffler update
though. Xander Schaffley birdied eighteen toget to minus twenty one twenty one under.
It's a very playable Valhalla, bestingBryce and d Chambeau by a single
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stroke. Victor Hoblin finished third ateighteen under, Thomas Detrie at fifteen under,
along with Colin Morikawa. So XanderSchaffley gets his first major. It's
PGA Championship. I I mean itsounded like it was a very good,
very entertaining final round for sure.Is there any update on your guy regarding
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the arrest Scotty Scheffler's arraignment on multiplecharges send me from an incident prior to
the second round of the PGA Championshiphas been delayed until June third. Scheffler's
attorney told ESPN not guilty plea willbe entered on the new date in Louisville.
That world number one golfer is notrequired to attend the arraignment, which
was originally scheduled for tomorrow. Aconflict in the attorney's schedule was the reason
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for a change. So June thirdwill be the first time that he's,
you know, against the arraignment forthose four charges, including a second degree
assault of the police officer. Soor any of the charges going to be
dropped, will get any kind ofinkling that that when push comes to shove,
they're going to back off a littlebit on some of this. I
don't know, all right, we'llfind out. I guess, as Mike
Malone would say, it's stupid askquestion. Yeah, I decided you want
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to start playing that if I don'tlike a question that you asked them,
Okay, that's fair. I'm notgonna swear at you. Yeah, I
just called it that. I thoughtyou mean you were going to play that.
His his version of it, Yeah, I might. We'll play that
Michael alone. Believe you mean therewasn't anything wrong with the question. Well,
of course, it's in that classificationof the question everybody has. Somebody
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does. Absolutely they have to ask, even though maybe there's a better way
to word it. He just hewas cranky. He was cranky, which
is not illegal. And usually Ihave found him to be pretty good after
before games, yeah, and aftergame's pretty interesting. But he's embarrassed.
I mean, I know he's acompetitive guy. The idea that they're up
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twenty at home in game seven aftergetting destroyed in historic fashion in game six
and they can't finish the job andthey really don't even come close. That's
a shame. I think for him, it was like, Okay, I'm
surely I don't like this. Idon't like the position that we're in here.
We know the Wolves one ninety eightninety they advanced to the Western Conference
Finals game one Wednesday night against theDallas Mavericks, the Indiana Pacers went into
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Madison Square Garden. Did you seethe Willis Reid like moment in the first
quarter or so? It's not,it's not, it's it's the first time.
I think the TIBs criticism is valid. He had zero business being on
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the court. He could barely move. I know he did, but there's
that That was one where even ifthe trainer said he can go, and
the player says he can go,a head coach has to say, we're
not doing this to you. Youknow me, I mock and ridicule a
lot of the Tim's criticism. Mostof it, much of it regarding the
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minutes police stuff, is not factual. It's inaccurate. It's in some cases
downright disingenuous and dishonest. But tome, that was a bad look for
the club. I know they're frustrated. They lose Bruns into a broken hand,
even though he wasn't at that pointplaying all that well. It felt
like they got back in the game. They cut the lead, I think
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the five in the third quarter,and he gets hurt and they go belly
up and as I tweeted out,yesterday, Brunson loses a gut wrenching Game
seven with an injury depleted lineup.He's out of it, broken hand.
He shows up for the postgame presseranswers all of the questions, not in
a surly way at all. Meanwhile, you know, Jamal Murray can't show
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up after games one or two,especially after two, which of course was
the game where he's throwing stuff ontothe court. So if you want to
do the basketball god's bit a bit, you can, and you can say
I hit it hard. Ultimately Ihit it hard. The gods said,
we're going to make you pay forrefusing to hold either yourself accountable or let
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the league hold you accountable as well. We have left the basketball gods temple
on Running Back Island, Max Fullerand you know, Josh Bryant, and
there was a moment where we thoughtwe were going to ask the basketball gods
to leave Run It Back Island.But after yesterday, now you're all back
to murray second half, Michael Malone'spost game stuff. We were back on
it. So Game one of theEastern Conference Finals between the Pacers and Boston
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Celtics is tomorrow night in Boston.Boston is favored by nine and a half
points in that game. There heavyfavorites to reach the finals. I think
again, there's not any question thatthe wolves elimination in seven games of Denvers
is far more oppressive impressive as anachievement than what the Pacers did to the
Knicks. It's not the PACER's faultthat the Knicks were his injury ravage,
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which can't deny it. It's it'sif with Brunson out, that's their their
superstar player and five of their topeight players in their lineup. And so
that said, I think the Pacersare quirky, weird, and that if
Boston doesn't mind, it's P's andq's, especially without the big man who's
out what's his name, Porzingis He'sout for at least the first two games
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they are Celtics. I think thePacers might muck this thing up a little
bit and extended. I'm not pickingthem to to win the series, but
I think that's gonna end up beinga little bit more competitive, and quite
frankly, even a Knicks series wouldbe. Despite how hard the next play,
the Knicks are just out of players. The Pacers at least can say
they're healthy. Now, if youwant to have basketball gods, you could
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say because of the way Rick Carlislewhined and made it about the officials before
he made it about his own team, Yeah, that the basketball guys should
have punished them as well. ButI think that might end up being a
longer series than people think. Sothat starts Tomorrow night and then Wednesday night
here in Minneapolis, your Minnesota Timberwolveshosting the Dallas Mavericks. They are favored
in the series, and according toDraftKings are four point favorites for Game one
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and we are How big a favoritesare we in the series itself? Yeah,
I don't have it right in frontof me, but I know we're
favored. Yeah, you remind usone seven er is a decent number.
Second favorites to win it all right? Now, we are only behind the
Boston Celtics. There's only four team. There's only four teams, and that's
exactly that's what's amazing, how itshould be. That's it. There are
only four teams that can win aNational Basketball Association title, and your Minnesota
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Athletic coming up at the bottom ofthe hour. Kevin Falness checked in very
lonely man during the top five atfive really still hammering home the basketball talk.
We're going to have to revoke thehockey ambassadorship. What exactly does Falness
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expect I mean, in all seriousness, what does he expect us to do.
The Wolves just had the greatest momentin the history of the franchise.
They're now in the final four.They just had a moment. I've suggested
Trump's the Minneapolis Miracle and he wantsus to talk Alex Delvecchio, I mean,
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honest to god, I mean there'slimits. It's just I don't know
what to tell you. I knowyou're lonely. I know you feel a
little bit left out. You gotcrushed again in program password or whatever?
Is that true? Yeah? Whatever? Game it is? Whatever? Yeah,
I can't remember. I don't know. I all say, is he
better get used to it? Becausewe're now guaranteed four games? Right?
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Yeah? Four games takes us.Game four will be in Dallas next Tuesday,
week from tomorrow. Is that correct? Week from tomorrow night? Right,
Yes, that'll be a game Tuesday. Yeah, so that's minimum.
I don't think I think most peoplethink this is going to be I don't
expect the Brooms to get out.I don't need this series to be honest.
I definitely like the Wolves chances.I liked the Wolves chances in the
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last series. I waivered. There'sno question I was worried, but when
they finally did, as we say, punchback in the business in a big
way. Took them till game sixonce they did, I very much like
their chances to finish the thing off, and they they got the thing done.
I would say, right now,my preliminary pick, this isn't my
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final pick. My preliminary pick isWolves in five. That's preliminary though.
Yeah, I mean you've got timeto change. Surely I've got time to
change because game six would be there, correct, because ice would be there.
Yes, we have home ice inthis year. We do starting Wednesday.
Yeah, Game five would be aweek from Thursday. Should mention I
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didn't mention this during the top fiveand five, but for people that have
Twins tickets on Friday because they returnhome. The Twins returned home a little
bit later this week to a lotof boxes rangers to help accommodate and make
things a little bit easier. TheTwins have moved their first pitch up to
six ten from seven to ten withthe seven thirty tip time. Interesting thing
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though, is Wolves officials always encourageWolves fans to arrive early. Yeah,
they do, so we'll see whathappens there kind of Yeah, I would
just keep that in mind for allif you're going to either game Twins or
Wolves. Yeah, I would sayyeah, especially because start your anticipation is
going to be fairly dramatic. SomeJeremy writes that almost like reading my mind.
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Although I did tease it that DraymondGreen spoke highly of Gobert on his
podcast last night. I can't keepup. I don't know if he does
like maybe does one after every game. I have no idea he does a
lot of them. I saw AlanHorton say that he basically spread fake news
propaganda about when the Wolves made theirrun with Gobert out of the game,
which was false. That was false. Yeah, he was. He was
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cut it from six to one whenhe was out, but they cut it
from twenty to what it was whilehe was there. I did not think.
I thought there was one starter whoplayed well in the first half,
and that was Kat. That wasit. I don't think anybody else,
and so that includes Rudy. Idon't think he played particularly well in the
first half, but he played muchbetter in the second half. Helly hit
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was it four out of five fromthe free throw line in the fourth quarter?
I think, yeah, that's huge. It's everything. That's everything,
it's all serious. He made acouple of nice defensive plays as well.
Was was was good on the boards. Somebody said that he's got in the
playoffs thus far the best plus minusrating in the entire playoffs. Plus one
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eleven, I believe is his number. Now, again, those numbers can
get a little deceptive. Sometimes he'shardly been perfect. And there were a
couple of stretches in the first halfwhere I was going get get the game,
get the damn rebound. Come on, man, get the ball,
get the ball. But the notionthat in a game in which Anthony Edwards
in the first half did not existas an offensive player, that Rudy Gobert
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is their number one problem is justridiculous, just ludicrous. It's just too
easy to go down that particular road. And maybe the message is going to
get through to Draymond now that it'sbeen made official that he's going to be
in town joining the TNT crew forwell at least games one and two.
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Here obviously is again I philosophically amopposed in general leaving Draymond out. I'm
opposed to the concept of going downthe road of having active players participate.
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I know in the TV world theylove it because those are prominent names right
now, right But I think toa certain extent, you've got to be
really careful about that, especially knowingthat human nature being what it is.
When you have active players commenting onother active players, where there might be
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baggage, where there might be infact, some history, I just think
you're asking for trouble. And althoughI think Draymond is interesting on basketball,
I don't think he's so compelling thatI have to have him on the broadcast.
They don't need him on the broadcast. And I would submit that I
when he's been when he was withthem what last series for a couple of
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games, I thought it had gotin the way of the panel chemistry.
I really did. I think thechemistry it's almost like that's one voice too
many. If you got Shack andyou have Ernie, you know, facilitating,
and you have Kenny and you haveCharles having another guy, because then
I think they feel like we gotto defer to him a little bit because
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we're always here and this guy's not. And I actually think he did influence
them to spend more time on Rudybecause he spent as much time as he
did on Rudy as well. Andwe've talked about this ad nauseum the number
of times people pretended that the Wolveshad not preferred from the beginning of the
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series to have Karl Anthony Towns onJoker. It was a made up story.
Yep, it was fiction, andthere was no not the willingness to
say well to the degree he wasn'ton him and had more to do with
foul trouble because he couldn't be inthe game or because they couldn't risk it
because they didn't want him to fileout of the out of the ball game.
I I it's and it's not.I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.
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It's not the end of the world, but it'll be an interesting subplot
because you know, we talked toMike Conley, and I thought Conley was
interesting on the Rudy subject that hethinks, once upon a time that kind
of stuff did hurt him. Hethinks he's outgrown it a little bit,
and it's almost now he uses it. He's kind of chuckles about him and
has used it to his own advantage, which is the smart way to do
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it, to not necessarily overreact toit. But it's such a it's when
when at times, whether whether it'sthings going well or things going poorly,
he hasn't been at the top ofthe list, and people wanted to be
at the top of list. Whybecause of the trade, the nature of
the trade, the controversy about thetrade, all those things entered into it.
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But it's like it's come this convenientitch to scratch that has nothing to
do with how the series played out. And again, I thought he played
a much better second half. Hewas more part of the solution than the
problem at that point. So muchrebounds, I mean exactly impacted all kinds
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of yeah, and and and again, going all the way back, you
have to it's just it's become tooeasy. Well, you got to take
Rudy out of the game against smallerIt's never it's rarely that simple. Then
maybe it will be in this upcomingseries. I have absolutely no idea,
or maybe it will in the nextseries. We'll ask Johnny because I have
a one of my questions for Johnnylooking ahead is who is who tends to
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guard Luca. I don't think Kyrieplayed in at least three of the games
when we met the Mavericks in theregular season, maybe more the regular season
matchup between these two teams is utterlymeaning, yes, they all happened before
the trade deadline. The Wolves wonthe series three to one. Uh,
but you're you're exactly right. Theyhadn't made the trade and Kyrie missed a
bunch of the games and basically saying, yeah, I got I got Kyrie,
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which is a god. That's justa hell of it. That's just
a juicy, juicy matchup, iswhat it is. So then who's on
Luca. I'm guessing we're gonna see. Uh, we'll ask Johnny about this.
I'm guessing we're gonna see. Ifyou don't like seeing SlowMo, you
might be disappointed because I think you'regonna see SloMo some on on Luca,
and I think that's actually smart.Can you give up? But you're giving
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up some offense there that has tobe factored in as well. We'll get
Johnny's reaction to what took place lastnight in Denver, and maybe more importantly,
look ahead to what might be comingnext against the Dallas Mavericks. That's
right around the corner. Shot driveson Michael Porter two and your runs it
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up. Note Sam Karl Lathony Towns. He sorted for the wing. He
put the walls up seven. Withthirty nine seconds left, you'll get jumping
into the front course off to KCP. He'll wise up with the threes offline,
has got the rebounds. Put thirtyseconds left, the nuggets well back
up. They walked out. It'sover. It's over, and stunned silence
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and Paulo, that's like the basketballversion of the silence you hear is Lambeoufield.
That's why I got it. Whowas the Bob Trumpy? Wasn't it
was? It? Wasn't it theoriginal? I think it was Trumpy Johnny
Athletic brought to you by RBC WealthManagement might know he's joining us as we
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speak. Wasn't that the original?The silence you hear is lambeau Field.
That was the Moss coming out party. Wasn't that Bob Trumpy who uttered that
famous SoundBite? That sounds right tome. I don't know for sure if
that was what it was. Ifthat's who it was, it wasn't later
of you, right, I don'tthink so. I think it was the
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sidekick. I think it was,you know, Trumpy was a former receiver
for the Bengals, I think right, And then turned analysts, do we
have it in our system? Guardsy, I've got so much sound on it.
Right. Well, we'll see,we'll see if we can, if
you can find it before we wrapthings up with Johnny Athletic. Well,
I don't know. Yeah, No, that's different, that's very different.
That's stupid ass question, Anthony Edwards, stupid ask questions and bring you not
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bring your ass, bring you ass. I think it's an important distinction.
There's shirts everywhere on it. Thatwas, of course Anthony Edwards, with
Charles Barkley as well. The moralof the story for you from Game seven,
a startling come from behind victory inwhich, as we talked about much
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earlier in this program, there wasa stretch when on the road against the
defending champions in a Game seven,the Wolves outscored the Nuggets fifty four to
twenty four, fifty four to twentyfour. What's the overright, overarching message
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that you think we should bring outof that Game seven moment? Yeah,
I mean I think I go backto even what I felt after Game six,
But certainly this was solidified and stampedand multiplied by a thousand. But
like this whole same old Timberwolves idea, This waiting for the other shoe to
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drop, this snake bitten, cursed, you know, Minnesota sports fandom thing.
It's dead with this team, likebury it, it's over now.
It does not guarantee that the Timberwolvesare going to beat the Mavericks in the
Western Conference Finals or go and winthe championship or do anything like that.
But what this team represents is aprofessionalism and a competency that is really liable
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that you can hang your hat on. They are not going to let you
down from lack of effort, lackof intensity, lack of care factor,
any of those things. Like theseguys get after it and they are never
out of a game, They're neverout of a series. And so just
when you look at how they wonthat game, when Anthony Edwards can't hit
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a shot, when Mike Conley isjust a shell of himself in the first
half, when Karl Anthony town isin foul trouble, when there's all these
things that were happening, and yetthey still overcame all of that and beat
the best player in the world andthe defending champions on their home floor in
the second half when they're down twenty, It's just like, what more evidence
do you need to see that it'stime to shed that scar tissue and just
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get in and have fun with this, because this team deserves that. At
this point, they have done enoughto earn some faith and I just think
that it's a new day in thisyou know, basketball community, and here
we go. Yeah, you knowthe way I put it earlier in the
program, and this happened a loteven well, certainly before Game six,
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it was and I thought the Wolveswere in trouble. I didn't think the
series was over because I learned thehard way to not overreact to any one
game. But I thought they werein trouble because we hadn't seen the punchback.
Right until you see it, youcan't be sure it's coming. And
it came finally in six. Butbefore that, I would get into arguments
with people about, well, youknow, we're cursed. This is the
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way it always happens for Minnesota teams. And my point's a little different than
yours in that. Then I said, well, they're not. The reason
they've lost three straight games is thatDenver's still damn good and Denver's played better
than them, and the idea thatagain this is like, well, it's
the same old, same old,or there's some sort of a like I
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said, some sort of a acurse against the franchise or against the sports
teams. It's just too easy andit's too convenient. And I, you
know, tweeted out something similar latelast night and quickly got back that don't
worry about it, will we'll screwit up in the next round. And
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it's that same thinking. It's like, well, there's still something. It's
always going to end badly for us. And what that prevents people from doing
is savoring what has happened to thispoint, right, it's savoring that whatever
this is, that doesn't means there'sa title waiting here. But whatever this
is, this is a very differentplace than it's been before. And if
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you could, if you constantly movethe goal posts and say, well,
yeah, you're right, the cursedidn't show up for that series, like
I guaranteed it was, but Iguarantee you'll show up for the next one.
Stop moving the goal posts, enjoythis moment and just watch with your
eyes when you have a team that'sdone, especially in six and seven what
the did against still a very proudchampion, even if maybe they were running
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on fumes a little bit. That'sunusual. That's rarefied air here. Man,
We've never been in this situation here, not even close to being in
it. And I think it's areflex. And frankly, Johnny, I'm
beginning to think some of it ispeople who really don't even pay attention.
They're in it for the water coolermoment. I'm going to say what I
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think is a cool thing to say, and what it's going to get a
bunch of chuckles as opposed to peoplewho actually are watching what's going on.
Yeah, I think that's exactly it. And I do think that there is
an element, a small element ofI think people misery is a part of
the identity of the Minnesota sports fan. And if you can't have that,
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what do you have? There's goingthere would be people who, if they
won the championship would say, yeah, well they're not going to repeat though
you kept you know, they're notgoing to be the warrior, right,
so you know, what does itmatter? You know? And and so
I think that I mean, youhit on the key points is just to
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be able to savor a team thatis doing it the right way, Like
they are playing the way that youshould want a basketball team to play.
They are charismatic and endearing, Theyhave they have real compelling stories of overcoming
a lot of things to get tothis point. You have guys like Karl
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Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert, whoare among the most criticized players in the
NBA, sometimes rightfully so, overcomingsome of their past issues and coming up
huge and like, it's just like, what are you waiting for? You
know? If not this team whenAnd again, yeah, it does not
guarantee they're going to the championship,It doesn't guarantee they're going to win it.
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But I've seen the same old Timberwolvesbasketball and this is nothing like it.
Same old Timberwolves basketball is sixty lostseasons and praying for lottery balls and
helplessness and dysfunction and drama and justmisery upon misery. This team is hungry.
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It is excellent. And one otherpoint I wanted to make Dan,
you said it like the Nuggets,maybe they did run out of gas,
you know what, maybe Phoenix wasa little bit messy, but you know
what, the Timberwolves made the PhoenixSuns look bad. The Timberwolves made the
Nuggets run out of gas by takingthem all the way, by responding after
losing three in a row and winningby fifty in Game six and forcing a
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Game seven. The Nuggets were outof gas because the Timberwolves put them there.
And so I think that there's beena kind of a portion of people
who want to look at what waswrong with the opponent rather than hey,
maybe the Timberwolves deserve credit for puttingthese guys in those positions. And so,
I mean, I just think thatit's a team that's ready, and
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it's a team that's fun. Andif you're not going to enjoy this,
I just don't know what you canenjoy it. Johnny, I'm going to
go full disclosure here. I'm morethan anything any other sport. I am
a basketball guy. I grew upon basketball in Gary, Indiana at Memorial
Audit twim literally in an auditorium wherethe court was up on a stage,
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and I saw high school basketball atits finest, just at its most remarkable.
So I admit that basketball is mysport more than any others. Even
though I appreciate all of them.That said I suggested earlier in the show
today, even though I know Imight get nominated for PST, that in
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my view, what we saw lastnight in Denver is higher on the or
should be for Minnesota sports fans,higher on the sports hierarchy of achievement in
the Minneapolis miracle. And I saythat because the miracle was one moment,
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and it was dramatic, and thegame was pretty much over, so I'm
not minimizing it. But I willsubmit to you that as I'm watching the
game in the Barka, and asI'm watching the game evolve from a twenty
point blowout to Okay, they're creepingin a little bit, They're creeping a
little bit more to that place.Where as I said earlier to guards E,
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you're looking around an empty room andyou're saying, yes, Obs might
pull this off. The creeping senseof realization that this is happening and evolving,
and it's happening over an entire half, which I actually think makes it
better, makes it more memorable thanthe miracle, which was literally one play.
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You can almost say it's kind ofa flukey play. This evolved over
a period of offensive and defensive plays, so I ain't putting it on the
eighty seven World Series or ninety onebecause there was a still at the top
of the food chain, for sure, But I believe this is actually a
more entertaining joy, should be moreentertaining, enjoyable, fulfilling moment than the
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Minneapolis Miracle. Am I crazy?No, You're not crazy? And I
mean, I'm sure a lot oflisteners are saying, well, yeah,
obviously, Johnny, you're you're inthe bank for the NBA and basketball as
well. I am in the sameboat with you in terms of being a
basketball fan and a love of loveof the game is higher than any other
sport. But it's an absolutely salientpoint that the Minneapolis there's there's a couple
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of things to get into with it. The Minneapolis miracle was a flash bulb
moment that may never be topped.Like that was unbelievable. I was in
the stadium. It was remarkable whathappened. It also did have an element
of pure luck to it, ofof kind of you know, just just
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out of no where insanity that happenedfor a team that was good but not
great beating another team that was goodbut not great. The difference here is
that there was no luck involved withthis Timberwolves comeback other than Rudy Gobert's ridiculous
shot. This was a championship caliberteam facing the reigning champions, not at
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home on the road, down twentyin the second half and needing to play
almost perfect basketball for twenty two minutes, almost an entire half, and be
the better team. And that's whatthey were. And they beat a worthy
opponent, an adversary that was thefavorite in the Western Conference, unlike the
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Saints were in terms of that playoffmatchup, and they did it to put
themselves in a position where you canfeel like this team is can win a
championship. And I still think thatthe case Keenum led Vikings, God blessed
case Keenum. We all loved him, but they had limitations on them that
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this team does not have. Andso yeah, I think that it is
more impressive that they walk down thegreatest player in the world on his home
floor with hundreds and hundreds of Wolvesfans coming alive in that fourth quarter and
taking the arena over and that wholescene. I mean, I'll remember the
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rest of my life. It wasjust it was that compelling. It was
that impressive. There's nothing, Ithink, for a sports fan like,
especially if you're not there, ifyou are watching on TV, you're kind
of slumped over because your team seemsto be on the brink of elimination,
that this doesn't look good, andyou're you're almost leaning sideways, you're on
your phone, you're kind of watching, you're kind of not and then as
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you see the comeback start to build, you find your back straightening up a
little bit, and then you're you'resitting up a little straight and you're going,
wait a minute, this is kindof interesting. How far can this
go? Now I'm back in itand it keeps building the way it did,
and it was dramatic with you know, whether it was a steal,
whether it's a three point make byConley, et cetera. That to me
is I'm not a you know,I'm not I didn't grow up a fan
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of this team, but as afan of sports, that to me is
I have tended over the years toderive the greatest pleasure from the slow,
steady build of that kind of comeback, more than the single miracle play.
And that's what they got. It'sinteresting, you know, a Texter reminded
me that Finchy was on with PAtoday and a sneaky point on Rudy,
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of course, became another bone ofcontention overnight because of the Barkley comments at
the half, which no one elsereally went with Kenny just let it go.
And I don't Vince Carter was onthe set. I don't think he
made a big deal of it.But you know, a sneaky part of
the comeback was the Wolves were inthe bonus what with like eight minutes to
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go in the period, largely becausethey're just hacking Rudy because he's just breaking
open under the basket. And it'sone of those subtle examples of is that
the top of the list. Nonumber of other things were, but that
also contributed and has to be partof how you evaluate the good and the
bad of what a given player mightoffer. For sure, and let's face
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it, let's be straight, likehe needed to have that half. He
got dominated in the first half.Yokuch had fifteen rebound, five offensive rebounds
at the half, second chance pointsfor Denver at the half fourteen to two,
and Rudy just wasn't active enough.And you know, obviously Charles saying
he should be benched was going toofar. But you were thinking at the
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half, what do they have todo to kind of get some life breathed
into them? And it turned outwhat they had to do was just work
harder, and Rudy did that.And because he worked hard, and because
he and Towns and and Conley andAnt and everyone didn't fold at the start
of the third when they went afifteen point lead became twenty in the blink
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of an eye, I think theNuggets expected them to just back down and
just like, Okay, we gotthem, They're gonna go quietly. And
once Rudy started hustling and started grabbingoffensive rebounds and started getting open and then
making the free throws when he washacked, I think they just it felt
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like Apollo creed in the corner againstRocky and just like, I can't believe
these this guy keeps coming after me. And by the end they had no
more punches to throw the Nuggets.And so to see the way that Rudy
helped influence that and his fourth quarterwas masterful with just everything that he did
on both ends. Uh, thoseare yeah, that's that is the blueprint
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for a Rudy Gobert impact game.Even though he didn't score twenty points.
He didn't have a bunch of hugehighlights other than that jump shot, but
he just controlled the second half somuch that it allowed and there was so
many of those. I mean,Mike Conley played terrible. Then he hits
three and hits the step back threeat the end of the third, and
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then the corner three for the tenpoint lead. You know, Jaden had
a key tipped offensive rebound to keepa possession alive. Carl Is following with
with putbacks and dunks, like itwas so hard for these guys. They
expended all of the energy that theyhad, and to me, that's the
best part about following sports when yousee a team giving absolutely everything that they
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have inside of them to pull somethingout like this. There's nothing like it.
Fifty nine three walls are down withseven forty eight to go in the
third, and then over the nextone two minutes and change they score ten
straight points, so they're still downsix. That run was punctuated by Conley
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hitting the twenty three foot or Ithink that was maybe the one where the
shot clock was expiring as the ballwas in the air, And you mentioned
offensive rebounding. In this case,what was essential was you check the play
by play and you were there.You know this. The Wolves got every
defensive rebound after a first half inwhich, like you said, they got
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embarrassed. Rudy got embarrassed first halfon the boards, both offensive and defensive.
Denver did not have a second shotwith any of those because the Wolves
were getting every rebound. And againwe all know what happened in the fourth.
There are a lot of heroics,We've discussed a lot of that,
but to me, Johnny, thatmay have been the key sequence of the
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game because that opened the door tothe possibility that it's a ballgame again,
and it opens the door to asbad as Anthony Edwards has been offensively,
now the game is his. Ifhe just hits a couple of shots or
gets a little bit warmer, thenwe got something on our hands. And
Denver's got a problem. Yeah.Yeah, And Jokic had fifteen rebounds in
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the first half, four in thesecond half. Aaron Gordon, who was
so he was the best power forwardon the floor in game three, four
five, didn't even see him,like where was he? And and so
it was it was Rudy it wastowns Ant got on the boards, Jaden
got on the boards, and therewas just a tenacity about that group that
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somehow, some way completely flipped it. Because in the second half, as
said, fourteen to two second chancepoints for the Nuggets in the first half,
twelve to two second chance points forthe Wolves in the second half,
they just said enough of this,like, we are the better team,
we are playing terribly, it's timefor us to inflict our will on them,
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and they did. Finch's quote thathe's used a couple of times in
this series is we know that ourbest is better than their best, and
that gets back to kind of themiracle Minneaples, the miracle conversation, like
I believe that that the tim Rulesare the better team than Denver, and
Denver is really freaking good. Sothis was not a fluke in that they
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won this series, but it didshow just all of the reserve that they
have inside of them to summon whenit looked really, really dark in that
third quarter, and they were ableto just methodically start to assert themselves in
a way that put them in positionfor all the heroic stuff we saw on
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before. The single biggest difference We'regonna have a time to time to talk
about this when you're at with usat the cage for game before Game one
on Wednesday, but off, youknow, the early let's set the tone
here early to look ahead a littlebit. The single biggest difference between the
challenges the Nuggets afforded the Wolves andthe challenges that Denver will what's the biggest
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difference you're going to see in thisseries? Yeah, I mean, I
really think, like it's kind ofobvious, but like the Nuggets ran everything
through their big through Yokic, who'sthe best in the world, and then
you have Murray as kind of thisclutch shooter that runs the two man game
around him. In Dallas, it'sdifferent, like they're all their strength is
in their backcourt with Luka Dancic andKyrie Irving, and the Wolves I think
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are equipped to handle it. Butuh, it's a different challenge because those
two are shot creators, they aretough shot makers, they are offenses unto
themselves. And then now they dida really good job at the trade deadline
up surrounding these guys with shooting andathleticism. And it's gonna be a slog
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Like I know a lot of Wolvesfans think, Hey, the toughest thing.
They just overcame it and now it'sit's going to be easy comparatively going
forward. And I do think thatthe Wolves will win this series. But
I think that Dallas is a monsteropponent, and I think that Luca and
Kyrie are hugely formidable foes to haveto deal with because they're playoff tested.
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They are incredible shot makers, andit's just going to have to be so
much more perimeter oriented with their defensethan it was in the in the Denver
series, and that's going to bea huge test for them. And has
already told us he's going to guardKyrie. So who's the logical defender,
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first defender on Luca. Yes,Jayden, He's done it before for them.
You know, Lucas had some biggames against him and he's had some
success against Luca as well. ButI think it's going to be Jade McDaniels.
Obviously, foul trouble will be somethingyou watch very closely because what I
will be interested in Dan is Idon't know if Jayden is either ineffective or
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in foul trouble. Well, who'sthe second guy you throw out? Luca
is it Nikhiel. I don't thinkhe's quite big enough, is it,
Kyle Anderson? Well, then yougive up some offense, you know,
do you just switch ants onto himand then try and put Conley in front
of Kyrie. There's that possibility aswell. They have flexibility to be able
to do some try some different things, but it's not quite as clear as
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what Plan B is, whereas Ithink Plan A is pretty clear. I
think Jayden is going to be onLuca and is going to be on Kyrie,
and they will attack it that way, with Rudy kind of working on
the back, on the back line, trying to make things as hard as
possible for them. We will chatfrom the cage on a Wednesday. Thanks
Johnny, We appreciate you as always. All right, Thanks Sam, Thanks
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very much for the time. Letme put Johnny on hold here before I
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Next question, Man, the season'sover. That's what's hard, being twenty
season's over. You don't understand thatseason's over. It's hard. Stupid ask
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questions. You're all nothing I lovebetter than to issue a stupid ask question
or two. We'll do our bestto try to live up to that standard,
because sometimes the greatest answers, includingthat one, is elicited by a
stupid question. That's the the unknownor the underrated part of rolling your eyes
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at the stupid question. Well,what's the answer that's getting the most attention,
And in that answer, he's layingout some of the emotion. Is
uh, is it Mike Malone,the head coach of the Nuggets, sometimes
Michael, sometimes Mike exactly that that'sthe deal. By the way, I
texted Ryan Saunders today. I haven'theard back from him. I'm hoping we
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can have him on at some point, you know, when he when he
kind of allows himself to get awayfrom it all and talk a little bit
about, if not the series,if that's uncomfortable, uncomfortable for him,
what he might think is going tobe happening moving forward. Wolves favored over
the Dallas Mavericks. Boston is obviouslyheavily favored over the Pacers. I think
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maybe a little too heavily, frankly, but we'll see. I think that
might end up being a surprisingly longseries. Let's clear the uh, let's
do some housekeeping. Is that theterm we use? Yeah, housekeeping?
Yeah, we can covenant clean up, covenant clean up, whatever you want
to call it. The silence youhear is lambeau Field was Bob Trumpy.
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But it wasn't the Brandy Moss breakoutMonday night game. It was the Michael
Vick shocking the Packers in the playoffsat LAMBA. Oh yeah, that was
apparently, I'm reminded, and Ithink that sounds right to me. Yeah,
we had it in the system atsome point. It may have gotten
deleted, but yeah, I wasBob Trumpy on that. But it was
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not the Boss game. As Ihad mentioned earlier in the program. I
really like what six' five toone guy is smoking here regarding his attempt
to further articulate my appreciation for whatthe Wolves did yesterday during the comeback in
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largely well, obviously, it wasin the second half of the ballgame,
in which, for a decent stretchafter being down fifty eight to thirty eight,
we were up ninety to eighty twowith I think three minutes to go
just over three and hit the threetimeout Nuggets a rods on the court.
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It's chaos. Fifty four to twentyfour during that stretch a thirty, we
outscored the Nuggets by thirty. Andit's my belief that the slow moving,
the dawning of what might be happeninghere is more pleasurable, or should be
more pleasurable than the Minneapolis Miracle becauseof the slow cook nature of it and
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the belief where you do you similarly, you go from it's over, Johnny,
to wait a minute. And Ithink when it builds slowly in the
end, it's actually more dramatic andmore or nurturing and more satisfying. And
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to that point, six five toone guy writes, when we started chipping
away at the lead, you couldfeel the crescendo building, and when Ad
hit that three to be down one, it was like the beginning of a
ten minute guitar solo. Nazrid Catsfollow up dunks with the crashing symbols at
the height of the energy, ridiculous, the miracle was, and oh my
god, we're gonna blow this game, and definitely quiet, and all of
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a sudden you turn on your stereoand forgot it was left on full volume.
So Tomato, Tomato, I likethe ten minute guitar solo. I'll
take a ten minute guitar solo everyYeah, everyone to put it in the
podcast. Well, that's it,that's you'd play it. It's a very
good point. That's that's uh.I hadn't really looked at it that way,
but that's probably true. Dan OldsmobileGuy writes, I don't think Wolves
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fans are quite prepared for how muchLuca complains and wines to the rest.
We've only seen it in one gamein it will likely be beyond grading for
a over a whole series. Hemakes Cat, Cat and Ant look like
Eagle scouts. That's true. Comparatively, it's undeniable. It's it's a it's
a bone of contention even among Mavericksfans from time to time, and even
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the head coach Jason Kidd. It'sthe classic case of but look at all
he can do? He had Ithink in their winning game, their closeout
game, he had ended up witha triple double he played? Was it
game five? He stunk they wantedin six? Right, No, may
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have been the game before he hadMaybe it was. It might have been
game four that he was awful,just awful. By the way, Caitlin
Clark's back on TV. She's onTV. She got a game like every
like twice a day. I playinga full eighty two. It's unbelievable.
Yeah, and they they're winless yet, right, they're zero and three yeah,
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and they're playing the Sun, butthis time, this is the rematch.
This is in Indianappa list. She'soff to a very nice start,
by the way, even though theclub is down six though everyone's mad at
her coach not using her right,Well, what what is she doing?
Criticism? Not letting m they're playingher off the ball too much? Oh,
I see, yeah, give hera minute, I know, you
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know, I even give the coacha minute to maybe figure some things out.
I worry she's going to be theDoug Collins in this situation. Yeah,
very like the next coach. Yeah, he's got a profit. Is
that what you're saying. I'm prettysure Sham's already has a story. Yeah,
yeah, probably true. Where werewe? Oh yeah, Luca does.
I mean, it's it's like nothingI've ever seen in watching basketball for
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forty years. I I don't thinkthere's anything like Luca's level of of complaining.
But so it probably will get oldquickly and then a hand. It's
a nice subplot for you. Youhave some fun with it. You can,
you know, mock him and ridiculehim. I don't think he's going
to be affected by any of thatnecessarily, but there are times you can
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take advantage of the fact that he'swaiting on or he's on the on his
butt on the other end of thecourt. So the early matchups make sense.
If indeed Aunt is going to guardKyrie, which is just a that's
a matchup for the ages man.That's that's really good, it will more
likely it'll be Jaden at least startingon Luca, and I think you will
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see some SloMo. I think youhave to accept what SloMo doesn't give you
offensively at this point if you canget away with it. It depends on
who else is out there and allthat kind of good stuff, because I
do think he's he's a smart defender. He's got the body to make things
interesting. I mean, nobody reallystops Luca from creating space. He's very
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good at separating, right, buthe might be as good as anybody who's
ever who's ever played in that regard. But I bet you he's the logical
guy right as a secondary guy,yep, especially if if if Jaden runs
into some uh, you know,some foul issues, not you know,
not as tall, but he's kindof rangy, and you know, lucas
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just solid. Yep, Luca issolidly built, is he not. Yes,
it's incredibly solid. By the way, real quick, faver break,
It's time to getaw right for thesecouple of years. Yeah, I was
not pleased with him. I mean, he was the one guy this series
and never really Obviously he played greatin Game two, everybody did, but
he's gonna get I mean, thedifference between the first half and the second
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half, principally besides the defense,was guys hit the shots that were created
by what Denver was trying to dodefensive, yes, right, including Anthony
Edwards hitting his own shots. Butthese guys, I said at halftime.
The best story ever on playoff stuffis Trent Tucker talking about when Phil Jackson
pulled him aside ninety three Game threebrought up like him and Packson, it
was like, you're gonna get likethree or four shots and you have to
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make all of them, Like itsounds crappy, and how Sam Mitchell all
of a sudden hold on Dan.Yeah, you're paying I got fifty million
dollars. This guy's getting two andhe's more important. Come on, Dan,
Come on Dan. But Tucker saidit, and it's a great way
to do it, Like you gotthese role players have to make the shots
that they are presented with. That'show important. It almost seems unfair.
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It is because it's such a smallsample side. They only have so many
minutes, so much pressure. Theydon't have much of a chance if they
start zero for four. It's notlike with Jamal Murray. They don't have
a chance to play out of that. Right, Chase Murray knows you can
be able to take like twenty fivemore shots. Correct, big difference.
Let's come back. We'll have somefun with some sound off of game number
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It's the bumper to bumper show rap. We call it the Luka line.
This season for a reason, there'snot and nobody that's why it's the
Lucal line, because nobody, Ithink, in the history of basketball complains
quite as incessantly as he does.We've had our moments where we've edged towards
the Lucal line. We've done abetter job of that more recently. Charles
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Barkley Howling. This is how itsounded before the start of Game seven on
the TNT crew. I think there'sabout the fabulous series. Probably get them.
Who do you like? I likethe Wolves? Okay, yeah,
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it's not unusual. We don't needthat. Oh I think. Oh that
was before the game. This wasafter an exchange between Sir Charles and Anthony
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Edwards. I have not been toMinnesota in probably twenty years. Brian your
ass. Hey, hey, tellyou to send me a less of good
restaurants. We're gonna be there forlike five days. I want you to
send me a lift. That's somegood restaurants. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna find your number through somebody. I'm gonna send them to you.
I appreciate it, my brother,Congratulations, I'll see you Wednesday.
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Appreciate it. Baby. Well,if you want it, number, it's
five five number. So they'll bein town for games obviously one and two.
Right, will they be back forgame five or will it not be
a game five? Oh? Goodquestion? Will the brooms be out?
I'd be surprised. I think Iwould be two, But I take it.
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We're learning again. You just younever quite know. You never know
until you do know. Maybe wewrap up with the closure. What made
it feel like? Yes, thiswas the Wolves game. Conley picks the
pocket of Jamal Murray. Conley featsus An Oas down the lane, extra
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pad to the corner, and setshimself fired the three phasa. It's ninety
two eighty two. The Wolves leadby ten with three zero five left to
play. An unbelievable turnaround here inthe second half, from down twenty to
top ten in a game seven witheverything on the line. Ninety two eighty
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two timeout, Denver one a swing. This has been big time shot after
big time defensive play, and itjust continues. The second half has been
dominant. It's been unbelievable. Thatwas the game winning shot. Final scores
ninety eight ninety so technically speaking,that that three won it. That put
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them up to silence in baller.So it's gonna be Harlan, Yeah,
going to be Reggie and is Jamalto automatically this round? Is that?
How is that? Is that theduo? The trio? No? Yeah,
I guess you could say who wasReggie. It was just Reggie and
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Harlan before, right, Yeah theyadded last year, I can't remember.
I think he's been a decent addition. I think they play off each other
reasonably. Well, yeah, i'dlike to see him disagree a little bit
more. But people say that aboutus too, so I can't complain.
I can't rip it too much.You know what I was thinking when the
Knicks and Pacers game was going onyesterday, how it's still criminal that Jeff
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van Gundy. They did Jeff vanGundy like they did Jeff Fang And I
like JJ and I like Doris.It's not an indictment on those novel but
it's not as good a broadcasting.I'm sorry. It's not just not it's
not Van Gundy. Just it feltlike the finals, or it felt like
a big moment at least the lastseventeen years or however long he did it.
Yeah, it was great, andit's just ridiculous they did that.
(01:00:59):
So tomorrow's Tuesday, Uh, Corey, we will talk a little bit of
baseball with Corey Provis maybe some basketballtoo, who's to say. The rest
of this week, we expect alot of really good guests, Sam Mitchell,
Mike Wilbond, Kevin Harlan, MitchLawrence, Mitch Lawrence, and we're
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working on a bunch of other peopleas well, so I think we're gonna
be able to fill it pretty nicely. We will be doing shows from the
Cage Target Center both for game beforegames one and two, and that of
course is Wednesday night, and thenFriday night Game three. They're all night
games right in this series. Yes, it's all the same time. We
said, Yeah, Sunday Sunday isseven o'clock I think, but the rest
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of them are seven thirty. Ibelieve, gotcha. Our Cage Show is
brought to you by Crazy Fresh,Crazy Fresh Produce. Very excited about that.
That's great. People jumping on oneof the odds we could get Mark
Cuban to come to the Cage allbefore a game. It's just occurred to
me. Now, I didn't reallythought about it. You're right, the
odds on that, you think,I mean, not great, Probably not
great, but it's worth a try. Isn't it. I you guy,
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we got can we use that bondingexperience as a possibility? And younger than
me, you and Bosch and alittle bit more successful Tom, a little
richer. Well not for now.Well, yeah, your story is not
done. I got a long wayto go. He still being really very
true. So tonight fan and aman in the air. Is that correct?
Yes, I'm assuming Chris Finch willbe a part of it, and
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a bunch of wolves followed by DanPatrick, and we will start it all
over again tomorrow at three. Thanksfor the text, Thanks for the feedback.
We will talk to you then.And I believe that the Minnesota Timberwolves
are going to win the world too.
Just in case you missed it,it's the top five sports talkers of the
day. Now it's time for DanBarrero's Top five at five O. We're
got John Krasinski back from Denver,will join at about five thirty this evening.
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We will be at the Cage forGames one and two of the Western
Conference Finals Wednesday night and again onFriday night as well. Tip off both
nights is seven thirty. A lotof good guests that will, we hope
be joining us from the Target CenterCage location. I gotta believe the skyway
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is going to be hopping like ithas rarely ever hopped in Minnesota Timberwolves Target
Center history. Don't you think?Yes, I think it's going to be
festive. It's going to be fun. I'm assuming, by the way,
prices are back ump from that slidethey took for Game six. Yeah.
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Remember so tickets went on sale todayat noon I believe. Yeah. And
from what I saw, the getin price upper level was like one forty
eighth plus fees, so probably likeone seventy one Is that more than it
was for what yes, how youcan price for the last round was ninety
eight? It was under hundred.I don't know what the lower levels looked
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like, because I don't think they'rereally were any available now because everybody gets
their tickets. You're going to goright back out now, correct onto the
resale moment. We're gonna I'm surewe'll have Kilbourn on at some point this
week as well. But he ishe weakening on his pledge that he wouldn't
come back unless the team made theNBA Finals. I'm wondering. I gotta
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believe he might be weakening on thaton the basis of the way, the
inspired way they they they they theyclimbed out of the hole, planted their
feet against don't you my god?A little surprised that he Yeah, he
didn't go to Denver, although maybehe did and he was just quiet about
it. No, I don't thinkhe did. I don't think he did.
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Not that bad a flight, isit? L come on? Fourteen
minutes? It's pretty quick. Yeah, it's pretty quick. By the way.
Our cage shows are brought to youby Crazy Fresh, Oh nice,
Crazy Fresh. Eat Crazy Fresh CrazyFresh Produce, Oh I Know I love
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of that stuff to some dips,some produce, and we got some dips
at the at the Cave after beingon the road a few days. I
could use some vegetables. Yeah,now that's a problem. I'm not going
to I'm not going to whide youabout that. I'm not going to disagree
with you. Uh, the MinnesotaTwins remember today's Monday, right, Yes,
Remember when the Yankees hit town aweek ago today? Well I remember
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that. Yeah, because we lostall those games, swept the Brooms.
We went in for a showdown seriesthe Cleveland Guardians, so we still had
time to recover from the Yankee disaster. We were two and a half games
out. How that goal it's inthe American League Central. Uh, well,
Rocco, you tell us we knowit's not good baseball. Yeah,
that's pretty much it. They lostthree two on Friday, eleven to four
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on Saturday. They were down elevenrip on Saturday, and then I think
got a Grand slam in like this. They scored, they scored last they
got. It wasn't a Grand Slam, and they got some help defensively.
I think they scored, like yousaid, four runs. But they were
down eleven nil at that point andthen they lost. They got they were
behind together is like every game ofthe Yankee series except for that first rue.
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We were down early, almost immediately. And I think that happened again
last yesterday afternoon in Cleveland. Theywere down to zero. They rallied in
the top of the ninth, theywere trailing two to one, tied it
up, and then they got walkedoff for the three run dogs. Why
by Brennan who gave it up?Duran correct? And did you see he
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claimed he did not want to throwthe breaking ball. I just do what
I'm told. I assume that mustmean that that's that was what the catcher,
you know, asked him to throw. And he's had He's given up
a couple of dogs lately. Sothey're five and a half games back.
Now they've lost many in the rows. At six, that would be six,
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Yeah, it'll be six because theygot swept. They got swept by
the Yankees, had the off day, and then got swept over the weekend
by the Guardians. They've lost sevenof eight because they lost the game in
the Blue Jays series as well theroad trip Pats. They're at the at
the Nationals tonight to stop around thehill tonight, Pablo Lopez, who we
plan the Washington Nationals. Ben Gesling'sold beat versus Mitchell Parker. Is that
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still on the road? Did yousay? Is on the road? Exactly
right? So that first pitch aboutforty minutes from now, Corey Probus will
join. I believe tomorrow we'll negotiatewith Tim TV Voice of your Minnesota Twins.
Xander Shoftley finally got the major thathad eluded him. He wins had
to birdie eighteen. He turned ina seven under final round to finish twenty.
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I should say I'm sorry, hangon, let me get the scores
up because it it looked for aminute like the playoff was actually gonna happen.
Anybody else get arrested? No,I do have a Scottie Scheffler update
though. Xander Schaffley birdied eighteen toget to minus twenty one twenty one under.
It's a very playable Valhalla, bestingBryce and d Chambeau by a single
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stroke. Victor Hoblin finished third ateighteen under, Thomas Detrie at fifteen under,
along with Colin Morikawa. So XanderSchaffley gets his first major. It's
PGA Championship. I I mean itsounded like it was a very good,
very entertaining final round for sure.Is there any update on your guy regarding
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the arrest Scotty Scheffler's arraignment on multiplecharges send me from an incident prior to
the second round of the PGA Championshiphas been delayed until June third. Scheffler's
attorney told ESPN not guilty plea willbe entered on the new date in Louisville.
That world number one golfer is notrequired to attend the arraignment, which
was originally scheduled for tomorrow. Aconflict in the attorney's schedule was the reason
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for a change. So June thirdwill be the first time that he's,
you know, against the arraignment forthose four charges, including a second degree
assault of the police officer. Soor any of the charges going to be
dropped, will get any kind ofinkling that that when push comes to shove,
they're going to back off a littlebit on some of this. I
don't know, all right, we'llfind out. I guess, as Mike
Malone would say, it's stupid askquestion. Yeah, I decided you want
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to start playing that if I don'tlike a question that you asked them,
Okay, that's fair. I'm notgonna swear at you. Yeah, I
just called it that. I thoughtyou mean you were going to play that.
His his version of it, Yeah, I might. We'll play that
Michael alone. Believe you mean therewasn't anything wrong with the question. Well,
of course, it's in that classificationof the question everybody has. Somebody
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does. Absolutely they have to ask, even though maybe there's a better way
to word it. He just hewas cranky. He was cranky, which
is not illegal. And usually Ihave found him to be pretty good after
before games, yeah, and aftergame's pretty interesting. But he's embarrassed.
I mean, I know he's acompetitive guy. The idea that they're up
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twenty at home in game seven aftergetting destroyed in historic fashion in game six
and they can't finish the job andthey really don't even come close. That's
a shame. I think for him, it was like, Okay, I'm
surely I don't like this. Idon't like the position that we're in here.
We know the Wolves one ninety eightninety they advanced to the Western Conference
Finals game one Wednesday night against theDallas Mavericks, the Indiana Pacers went into
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Madison Square Garden. Did you seethe Willis Reid like moment in the first
quarter or so? It's not,it's not, it's it's the first time.
I think the TIBs criticism is valid. He had zero business being on
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the court. He could barely move. I know he did, but there's
that That was one where even ifthe trainer said he can go, and
the player says he can go,a head coach has to say, we're
not doing this to you. Youknow me, I mock and ridicule a
lot of the Tim's criticism. Mostof it, much of it regarding the
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minutes police stuff, is not factual. It's inaccurate. It's in some cases
downright disingenuous and dishonest. But tome, that was a bad look for
the club. I know they're frustrated. They lose Bruns into a broken hand,
even though he wasn't at that pointplaying all that well. It felt
like they got back in the game. They cut the lead, I think
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the five in the third quarter,and he gets hurt and they go belly
up and as I tweeted out,yesterday, Brunson loses a gut wrenching Game
seven with an injury depleted lineup.He's out of it, broken hand.
He shows up for the postgame presseranswers all of the questions, not in
a surly way at all. Meanwhile, you know, Jamal Murray can't show
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up after games one or two,especially after two, which of course was
the game where he's throwing stuff ontothe court. So if you want to
do the basketball god's bit a bit, you can, and you can say
I hit it hard. Ultimately Ihit it hard. The gods said,
we're going to make you pay forrefusing to hold either yourself accountable or let
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the league hold you accountable as well. We have left the basketball gods temple
on Running Back Island, Max Fullerand you know, Josh Bryant, and
there was a moment where we thoughtwe were going to ask the basketball gods
to leave Run It Back Island.But after yesterday, now you're all back
to murray second half, Michael Malone'spost game stuff. We were back on
it. So Game one of theEastern Conference Finals between the Pacers and Boston
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Celtics is tomorrow night in Boston.Boston is favored by nine and a half
points in that game. There heavyfavorites to reach the finals. I think
again, there's not any question thatthe wolves elimination in seven games of Denvers
is far more oppressive impressive as anachievement than what the Pacers did to the
Knicks. It's not the PACER's faultthat the Knicks were his injury ravage,
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which can't deny it. It's it'sif with Brunson out, that's their their
superstar player and five of their topeight players in their lineup. And so
that said, I think the Pacersare quirky, weird, and that if
Boston doesn't mind, it's P's andq's, especially without the big man who's
out what's his name, Porzingis He'sout for at least the first two games
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they are Celtics. I think thePacers might muck this thing up a little
bit and extended. I'm not pickingthem to to win the series, but
I think that's gonna end up beinga little bit more competitive, and quite
frankly, even a Knicks series wouldbe. Despite how hard the next play,
the Knicks are just out of players. The Pacers at least can say
they're healthy. Now, if youwant to have basketball gods, you could
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say because of the way Rick Carlislewhined and made it about the officials before
he made it about his own team, Yeah, that the basketball guys should
have punished them as well. ButI think that might end up being a
longer series than people think. Sothat starts Tomorrow night and then Wednesday night
here in Minneapolis, your Minnesota Timberwolveshosting the Dallas Mavericks. They are favored
in the series, and according toDraftKings are four point favorites for Game one
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and we are How big a favoritesare we in the series itself? Yeah,
I don't have it right in frontof me, but I know we're
favored. Yeah, you remind usone seven er is a decent number.
Second favorites to win it all right? Now, we are only behind the
Boston Celtics. There's only four team. There's only four teams, and that's
exactly that's what's amazing, how itshould be. That's it. There are
only four teams that can win aNational Basketball Association title, and your Minnesota
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Athletic coming up at the bottom ofthe hour. Kevin Falness checked in very
lonely man during the top five atfive really still hammering home the basketball talk.
We're going to have to revoke thehockey ambassadorship. What exactly does Falness
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expect I mean, in all seriousness, what does he expect us to do.
The Wolves just had the greatest momentin the history of the franchise.
They're now in the final four.They just had a moment. I've suggested
Trump's the Minneapolis Miracle and he wantsus to talk Alex Delvecchio, I mean,
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honest to god, I mean there'slimits. It's just I don't know
what to tell you. I knowyou're lonely. I know you feel a
little bit left out. You gotcrushed again in program password or whatever?
Is that true? Yeah? Whatever? Game it is? Whatever? Yeah,
I can't remember. I don't know. I all say, is he
better get used to it? Becausewe're now guaranteed four games? Right?
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Yeah? Four games takes us.Game four will be in Dallas next Tuesday,
week from tomorrow. Is that correct? Week from tomorrow night? Right,
Yes, that'll be a game Tuesday. Yeah, so that's minimum.
I don't think I think most peoplethink this is going to be I don't
expect the Brooms to get out.I don't need this series to be honest.
I definitely like the Wolves chances.I liked the Wolves chances in the
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last series. I waivered. There'sno question I was worried, but when
they finally did, as we say, punchback in the business in a big
way. Took them till game sixonce they did, I very much like
their chances to finish the thing off, and they they got the thing done.
I would say, right now,my preliminary pick, this isn't my
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final pick. My preliminary pick isWolves in five. That's preliminary though.
Yeah, I mean you've got timeto change. Surely I've got time to
change because game six would be there, correct, because ice would be there.
Yes, we have home ice inthis year. We do starting Wednesday.
Yeah, Game five would be aweek from Thursday. Should mention I
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didn't mention this during the top fiveand five, but for people that have
Twins tickets on Friday because they returnhome. The Twins returned home a little
bit later this week to a lotof boxes rangers to help accommodate and make
things a little bit easier. TheTwins have moved their first pitch up to
six ten from seven to ten withthe seven thirty tip time. Interesting thing
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though, is Wolves officials always encourageWolves fans to arrive early. Yeah,
they do, so we'll see whathappens there kind of Yeah, I would
just keep that in mind for allif you're going to either game Twins or
Wolves. Yeah, I would sayyeah, especially because start your anticipation is
going to be fairly dramatic. SomeJeremy writes that almost like reading my mind.
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Although I did tease it that DraymondGreen spoke highly of Gobert on his
podcast last night. I can't keepup. I don't know if he does
like maybe does one after every game. I have no idea he does a
lot of them. I saw AlanHorton say that he basically spread fake news
propaganda about when the Wolves made theirrun with Gobert out of the game,
which was false. That was false. Yeah, he was. He was
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cut it from six to one whenhe was out, but they cut it
from twenty to what it was whilehe was there. I did not think.
I thought there was one starter whoplayed well in the first half,
and that was Kat. That wasit. I don't think anybody else,
and so that includes Rudy. Idon't think he played particularly well in the
first half, but he played muchbetter in the second half. Helly hit
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was it four out of five fromthe free throw line in the fourth quarter?
I think, yeah, that's huge. It's everything. That's everything,
it's all serious. He made acouple of nice defensive plays as well.
Was was was good on the boards. Somebody said that he's got in the
playoffs thus far the best plus minusrating in the entire playoffs. Plus one
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eleven, I believe is his number. Now, again, those numbers can
get a little deceptive. Sometimes he'shardly been perfect. And there were a
couple of stretches in the first halfwhere I was going get get the game,
get the damn rebound. Come on, man, get the ball,
get the ball. But the notionthat in a game in which Anthony Edwards
in the first half did not existas an offensive player, that Rudy Gobert
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is their number one problem is justridiculous, just ludicrous. It's just too
easy to go down that particular road. And maybe the message is going to
get through to Draymond now that it'sbeen made official that he's going to be
in town joining the TNT crew forwell at least games one and two.
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Here obviously is again I philosophically amopposed in general leaving Draymond out. I'm
opposed to the concept of going downthe road of having active players participate.
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I know in the TV world theylove it because those are prominent names right
now, right But I think toa certain extent, you've got to be
really careful about that, especially knowingthat human nature being what it is.
When you have active players commenting onother active players, where there might be
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baggage, where there might be infact, some history, I just think
you're asking for trouble. And althoughI think Draymond is interesting on basketball,
I don't think he's so compelling thatI have to have him on the broadcast.
They don't need him on the broadcast. And I would submit that I
when he's been when he was withthem what last series for a couple of
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games, I thought it had gotin the way of the panel chemistry.
I really did. I think thechemistry it's almost like that's one voice too
many. If you got Shack andyou have Ernie, you know, facilitating,
and you have Kenny and you haveCharles having another guy, because then
I think they feel like we gotto defer to him a little bit because
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we're always here and this guy's not. And I actually think he did influence
them to spend more time on Rudybecause he spent as much time as he
did on Rudy as well. Andwe've talked about this ad nauseum the number
of times people pretended that the Wolveshad not preferred from the beginning of the
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series to have Karl Anthony Towns onJoker. It was a made up story.
Yep, it was fiction, andthere was no not the willingness to
say well to the degree he wasn'ton him and had more to do with
foul trouble because he couldn't be inthe game or because they couldn't risk it
because they didn't want him to fileout of the out of the ball game.
I I it's and it's not.I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.
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It's not the end of the world, but it'll be an interesting subplot
because you know, we talked toMike Conley, and I thought Conley was
interesting on the Rudy subject that hethinks, once upon a time that kind
of stuff did hurt him. Hethinks he's outgrown it a little bit,
and it's almost now he uses it. He's kind of chuckles about him and
has used it to his own advantage, which is the smart way to do
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it, to not necessarily overreact toit. But it's such a it's when
when at times, whether whether it'sthings going well or things going poorly,
he hasn't been at the top ofthe list, and people wanted to be
at the top of list. Whybecause of the trade, the nature of
the trade, the controversy about thetrade, all those things entered into it.
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But it's like it's come this convenientitch to scratch that has nothing to
do with how the series played out. And again, I thought he played
a much better second half. Hewas more part of the solution than the
problem at that point. So muchrebounds, I mean exactly impacted all kinds
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of yeah, and and and again, going all the way back, you
have to it's just it's become tooeasy. Well, you got to take
Rudy out of the game against smallerIt's never it's rarely that simple. Then
maybe it will be in this upcomingseries. I have absolutely no idea,
or maybe it will in the nextseries. We'll ask Johnny because I have
a one of my questions for Johnnylooking ahead is who is who tends to
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guard Luca. I don't think Kyrieplayed in at least three of the games
when we met the Mavericks in theregular season, maybe more the regular season
matchup between these two teams is utterlymeaning, yes, they all happened before
the trade deadline. The Wolves wonthe series three to one. Uh,
but you're you're exactly right. Theyhadn't made the trade and Kyrie missed a
bunch of the games and basically saying, yeah, I got I got Kyrie,
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which is a god. That's justa hell of it. That's just
a juicy, juicy matchup, iswhat it is. So then who's on
Luca. I'm guessing we're gonna see. Uh, we'll ask Johnny about this.
I'm guessing we're gonna see. Ifyou don't like seeing SlowMo, you
might be disappointed because I think you'regonna see SloMo some on on Luca,
and I think that's actually smart.Can you give up? But you're giving
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up some offense there that has tobe factored in as well. We'll get
Johnny's reaction to what took place lastnight in Denver, and maybe more importantly,
look ahead to what might be comingnext against the Dallas Mavericks. That's
right around the corner. Shot driveson Michael Porter two and your runs it
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up. Note Sam Karl Lathony Towns. He sorted for the wing. He
put the walls up seven. Withthirty nine seconds left, you'll get jumping
into the front course off to KCP. He'll wise up with the threes offline,
has got the rebounds. Put thirtyseconds left, the nuggets well back
up. They walked out. It'sover. It's over, and stunned silence
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and Paulo, that's like the basketballversion of the silence you hear is Lambeoufield.
That's why I got it. Whowas the Bob Trumpy? Wasn't it
was? It? Wasn't it theoriginal? I think it was Trumpy Johnny
Athletic brought to you by RBC WealthManagement might know he's joining us as we
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speak. Wasn't that the original?The silence you hear is lambeau Field.
That was the Moss coming out party. Wasn't that Bob Trumpy who uttered that
famous SoundBite? That sounds right tome. I don't know for sure if
that was what it was. Ifthat's who it was, it wasn't later
of you, right, I don'tthink so. I think it was the
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sidekick. I think it was,you know, Trumpy was a former receiver
for the Bengals, I think right, And then turned analysts, do we
have it in our system? Guardsy, I've got so much sound on it.
Right. Well, we'll see,we'll see if we can, if
you can find it before we wrapthings up with Johnny Athletic. Well,
I don't know. Yeah, No, that's different, that's very different.
That's stupid ass question, Anthony Edwards, stupid ask questions and bring you not
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bring your ass, bring you ass. I think it's an important distinction.
There's shirts everywhere on it. Thatwas, of course Anthony Edwards, with
Charles Barkley as well. The moralof the story for you from Game seven,
a startling come from behind victory inwhich, as we talked about much
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earlier in this program, there wasa stretch when on the road against the
defending champions in a Game seven,the Wolves outscored the Nuggets fifty four to
twenty four, fifty four to twentyfour. What's the overright, overarching message
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that you think we should bring outof that Game seven moment? Yeah,
I mean I think I go backto even what I felt after Game six,
But certainly this was solidified and stampedand multiplied by a thousand. But
like this whole same old Timberwolves idea, This waiting for the other shoe to
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drop, this snake bitten, cursed, you know, Minnesota sports fandom thing.
It's dead with this team, likebury it, it's over now.
It does not guarantee that the Timberwolvesare going to beat the Mavericks in the
Western Conference Finals or go and winthe championship or do anything like that.
But what this team represents is aprofessionalism and a competency that is really liable
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that you can hang your hat on. They are not going to let you
down from lack of effort, lackof intensity, lack of care factor,
any of those things. Like theseguys get after it and they are never
out of a game, They're neverout of a series. And so just
when you look at how they wonthat game, when Anthony Edwards can't hit
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a shot, when Mike Conley isjust a shell of himself in the first
half, when Karl Anthony town isin foul trouble, when there's all these
things that were happening, and yetthey still overcame all of that and beat
the best player in the world andthe defending champions on their home floor in
the second half when they're down twenty, It's just like, what more evidence
do you need to see that it'stime to shed that scar tissue and just
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get in and have fun with this, because this team deserves that. At
this point, they have done enoughto earn some faith and I just think
that it's a new day in thisyou know, basketball community, and here
we go. Yeah, you knowthe way I put it earlier in the
program, and this happened a loteven well, certainly before Game six,
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it was and I thought the Wolveswere in trouble. I didn't think the
series was over because I learned thehard way to not overreact to any one
game. But I thought they werein trouble because we hadn't seen the punchback.
Right until you see it, youcan't be sure it's coming. And
it came finally in six. Butbefore that, I would get into arguments
with people about, well, youknow, we're cursed. This is the
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way it always happens for Minnesota teams. And my point's a little different than
yours in that. Then I said, well, they're not. The reason
they've lost three straight games is thatDenver's still damn good and Denver's played better
than them, and the idea thatagain this is like, well, it's
the same old, same old,or there's some sort of a like I
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said, some sort of a acurse against the franchise or against the sports
teams. It's just too easy andit's too convenient. And I, you
know, tweeted out something similar latelast night and quickly got back that don't
worry about it, will we'll screwit up in the next round. And
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it's that same thinking. It's like, well, there's still something. It's
always going to end badly for us. And what that prevents people from doing
is savoring what has happened to thispoint, right, it's savoring that whatever
this is, that doesn't means there'sa title waiting here. But whatever this
is, this is a very differentplace than it's been before. And if
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you could, if you constantly movethe goal posts and say, well,
yeah, you're right, the cursedidn't show up for that series, like
I guaranteed it was, but Iguarantee you'll show up for the next one.
Stop moving the goal posts, enjoythis moment and just watch with your
eyes when you have a team that'sdone, especially in six and seven what
the did against still a very proudchampion, even if maybe they were running
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on fumes a little bit. That'sunusual. That's rarefied air here. Man,
We've never been in this situation here, not even close to being in
it. And I think it's areflex. And frankly, Johnny, I'm
beginning to think some of it ispeople who really don't even pay attention.
They're in it for the water coolermoment. I'm going to say what I
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think is a cool thing to say, and what it's going to get a
bunch of chuckles as opposed to peoplewho actually are watching what's going on.
Yeah, I think that's exactly it. And I do think that there is
an element, a small element ofI think people misery is a part of
the identity of the Minnesota sports fan. And if you can't have that,
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what do you have? There's goingthere would be people who, if they
won the championship would say, yeah, well they're not going to repeat though
you kept you know, they're notgoing to be the warrior, right,
so you know, what does itmatter? You know? And and so
I think that I mean, youhit on the key points is just to
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be able to savor a team thatis doing it the right way, Like
they are playing the way that youshould want a basketball team to play.
They are charismatic and endearing, Theyhave they have real compelling stories of overcoming
a lot of things to get tothis point. You have guys like Karl
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Anthony Towns and Rudy Gobert, whoare among the most criticized players in the
NBA, sometimes rightfully so, overcomingsome of their past issues and coming up
huge and like, it's just like, what are you waiting for? You
know? If not this team whenAnd again, yeah, it does not
guarantee they're going to the championship,It doesn't guarantee they're going to win it.
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But I've seen the same old Timberwolvesbasketball and this is nothing like it.
Same old Timberwolves basketball is sixty lostseasons and praying for lottery balls and
helplessness and dysfunction and drama and justmisery upon misery. This team is hungry.
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It is excellent. And one otherpoint I wanted to make Dan,
you said it like the Nuggets,maybe they did run out of gas,
you know what, maybe Phoenix wasa little bit messy, but you know
what, the Timberwolves made the PhoenixSuns look bad. The Timberwolves made the
Nuggets run out of gas by takingthem all the way, by responding after
losing three in a row and winningby fifty in Game six and forcing a
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Game seven. The Nuggets were outof gas because the Timberwolves put them there.
And so I think that there's beena kind of a portion of people
who want to look at what waswrong with the opponent rather than hey,
maybe the Timberwolves deserve credit for puttingthese guys in those positions. And so,
I mean, I just think thatit's a team that's ready, and
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it's a team that's fun. Andif you're not going to enjoy this,
I just don't know what you canenjoy it. Johnny, I'm going to
go full disclosure here. I'm morethan anything any other sport. I am
a basketball guy. I grew upon basketball in Gary, Indiana at Memorial
Audit twim literally in an auditorium wherethe court was up on a stage,
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and I saw high school basketball atits finest, just at its most remarkable.
So I admit that basketball is mysport more than any others. Even
though I appreciate all of them.That said I suggested earlier in the show
today, even though I know Imight get nominated for PST, that in
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my view, what we saw lastnight in Denver is higher on the or
should be for Minnesota sports fans,higher on the sports hierarchy of achievement in
the Minneapolis miracle. And I saythat because the miracle was one moment,
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and it was dramatic, and thegame was pretty much over, so I'm
not minimizing it. But I willsubmit to you that as I'm watching the
game in the Barka, and asI'm watching the game evolve from a twenty
point blowout to Okay, they're creepingin a little bit, They're creeping a
little bit more to that place.Where as I said earlier to guards E,
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you're looking around an empty room andyou're saying, yes, Obs might
pull this off. The creeping senseof realization that this is happening and evolving,
and it's happening over an entire half, which I actually think makes it
better, makes it more memorable thanthe miracle, which was literally one play.
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You can almost say it's kind ofa flukey play. This evolved over
a period of offensive and defensive plays, so I ain't putting it on the
eighty seven World Series or ninety onebecause there was a still at the top
of the food chain, for sure, But I believe this is actually a
more entertaining joy, should be moreentertaining, enjoyable, fulfilling moment than the
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Minneapolis Miracle. Am I crazy?No, You're not crazy? And I
mean, I'm sure a lot oflisteners are saying, well, yeah,
obviously, Johnny, you're you're inthe bank for the NBA and basketball as
well. I am in the sameboat with you in terms of being a
basketball fan and a love of loveof the game is higher than any other
sport. But it's an absolutely salientpoint that the Minneapolis there's there's a couple
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of things to get into with it. The Minneapolis miracle was a flash bulb
moment that may never be topped.Like that was unbelievable. I was in
the stadium. It was remarkable whathappened. It also did have an element
of pure luck to it, ofof kind of you know, just just
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out of no where insanity that happenedfor a team that was good but not
great beating another team that was goodbut not great. The difference here is
that there was no luck involved withthis Timberwolves comeback other than Rudy Gobert's ridiculous
shot. This was a championship caliberteam facing the reigning champions, not at
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home on the road, down twentyin the second half and needing to play
almost perfect basketball for twenty two minutes, almost an entire half, and be
the better team. And that's whatthey were. And they beat a worthy
opponent, an adversary that was thefavorite in the Western Conference, unlike the
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Saints were in terms of that playoffmatchup, and they did it to put
themselves in a position where you canfeel like this team is can win a
championship. And I still think thatthe case Keenum led Vikings, God blessed
case Keenum. We all loved him, but they had limitations on them that
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this team does not have. Andso yeah, I think that it is
more impressive that they walk down thegreatest player in the world on his home
floor with hundreds and hundreds of Wolvesfans coming alive in that fourth quarter and
taking the arena over and that wholescene. I mean, I'll remember the
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rest of my life. It wasjust it was that compelling. It was
that impressive. There's nothing, Ithink, for a sports fan like,
especially if you're not there, ifyou are watching on TV, you're kind
of slumped over because your team seemsto be on the brink of elimination,
that this doesn't look good, andyou're you're almost leaning sideways, you're on
your phone, you're kind of watching, you're kind of not and then as
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you see the comeback start to build, you find your back straightening up a
little bit, and then you're you'resitting up a little straight and you're going,
wait a minute, this is kindof interesting. How far can this
go? Now I'm back in itand it keeps building the way it did,
and it was dramatic with you know, whether it was a steal,
whether it's a three point make byConley, et cetera. That to me
is I'm not a you know,I'm not I didn't grow up a fan
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of this team, but as afan of sports, that to me is
I have tended over the years toderive the greatest pleasure from the slow,
steady build of that kind of comeback, more than the single miracle play.
And that's what they got. It'sinteresting, you know, a Texter reminded
me that Finchy was on with PAtoday and a sneaky point on Rudy,
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of course, became another bone ofcontention overnight because of the Barkley comments at
the half, which no one elsereally went with Kenny just let it go.
And I don't Vince Carter was onthe set. I don't think he
made a big deal of it.But you know, a sneaky part of
the comeback was the Wolves were inthe bonus what with like eight minutes to
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go in the period, largely becausethey're just hacking Rudy because he's just breaking
open under the basket. And it'sone of those subtle examples of is that
the top of the list. Nonumber of other things were, but that
also contributed and has to be partof how you evaluate the good and the
bad of what a given player mightoffer. For sure, and let's face
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it, let's be straight, likehe needed to have that half. He
got dominated in the first half.Yokuch had fifteen rebound, five offensive rebounds
at the half, second chance pointsfor Denver at the half fourteen to two,
and Rudy just wasn't active enough.And you know, obviously Charles saying
he should be benched was going toofar. But you were thinking at the
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half, what do they have todo to kind of get some life breathed
into them? And it turned outwhat they had to do was just work
harder, and Rudy did that.And because he worked hard, and because
he and Towns and and Conley andAnt and everyone didn't fold at the start
of the third when they went afifteen point lead became twenty in the blink
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of an eye, I think theNuggets expected them to just back down and
just like, Okay, we gotthem, They're gonna go quietly. And
once Rudy started hustling and started grabbingoffensive rebounds and started getting open and then
making the free throws when he washacked, I think they just it felt
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like Apollo creed in the corner againstRocky and just like, I can't believe
these this guy keeps coming after me. And by the end they had no
more punches to throw the Nuggets.And so to see the way that Rudy
helped influence that and his fourth quarterwas masterful with just everything that he did
on both ends. Uh, thoseare yeah, that's that is the blueprint
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for a Rudy Gobert impact game.Even though he didn't score twenty points.
He didn't have a bunch of hugehighlights other than that jump shot, but
he just controlled the second half somuch that it allowed and there was so
many of those. I mean,Mike Conley played terrible. Then he hits
three and hits the step back threeat the end of the third, and
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then the corner three for the tenpoint lead. You know, Jaden had
a key tipped offensive rebound to keepa possession alive. Carl Is following with
with putbacks and dunks, like itwas so hard for these guys. They
expended all of the energy that theyhad, and to me, that's the
best part about following sports when yousee a team giving absolutely everything that they
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have inside of them to pull somethingout like this. There's nothing like it.
Fifty nine three walls are down withseven forty eight to go in the
third, and then over the nextone two minutes and change they score ten
straight points, so they're still downsix. That run was punctuated by Conley
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hitting the twenty three foot or Ithink that was maybe the one where the
shot clock was expiring as the ballwas in the air, And you mentioned
offensive rebounding. In this case,what was essential was you check the play
by play and you were there.You know this. The Wolves got every
defensive rebound after a first half inwhich, like you said, they got
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embarrassed. Rudy got embarrassed first halfon the boards, both offensive and defensive.
Denver did not have a second shotwith any of those because the Wolves
were getting every rebound. And againwe all know what happened in the fourth.
There are a lot of heroics,We've discussed a lot of that,
but to me, Johnny, thatmay have been the key sequence of the
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game because that opened the door tothe possibility that it's a ballgame again,
and it opens the door to asbad as Anthony Edwards has been offensively,
now the game is his. Ifhe just hits a couple of shots or
gets a little bit warmer, thenwe got something on our hands. And
Denver's got a problem. Yeah.Yeah, And Jokic had fifteen rebounds in
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the first half, four in thesecond half. Aaron Gordon, who was
so he was the best power forwardon the floor in game three, four
five, didn't even see him,like where was he? And and so
it was it was Rudy it wastowns Ant got on the boards, Jaden
got on the boards, and therewas just a tenacity about that group that
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somehow, some way completely flipped it. Because in the second half, as
said, fourteen to two second chancepoints for the Nuggets in the first half,
twelve to two second chance points forthe Wolves in the second half,
they just said enough of this,like, we are the better team,
we are playing terribly, it's timefor us to inflict our will on them,
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and they did. Finch's quote thathe's used a couple of times in
this series is we know that ourbest is better than their best, and
that gets back to kind of themiracle Minneaples, the miracle conversation, like
I believe that that the tim Rulesare the better team than Denver, and
Denver is really freaking good. Sothis was not a fluke in that they
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won this series, but it didshow just all of the reserve that they
have inside of them to summon whenit looked really, really dark in that
third quarter, and they were ableto just methodically start to assert themselves in
a way that put them in positionfor all the heroic stuff we saw on
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before. The single biggest difference We'regonna have a time to time to talk
about this when you're at with usat the cage for game before Game one
on Wednesday, but off, youknow, the early let's set the tone
here early to look ahead a littlebit. The single biggest difference between the
challenges the Nuggets afforded the Wolves andthe challenges that Denver will what's the biggest
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difference you're going to see in thisseries? Yeah, I mean, I
really think, like it's kind ofobvious, but like the Nuggets ran everything
through their big through Yokic, who'sthe best in the world, and then
you have Murray as kind of thisclutch shooter that runs the two man game
around him. In Dallas, it'sdifferent, like they're all their strength is
in their backcourt with Luka Dancic andKyrie Irving, and the Wolves I think
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are equipped to handle it. Butuh, it's a different challenge because those
two are shot creators, they aretough shot makers, they are offenses unto
themselves. And then now they dida really good job at the trade deadline
up surrounding these guys with shooting andathleticism. And it's gonna be a slog
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Like I know a lot of Wolvesfans think, Hey, the toughest thing.
They just overcame it and now it'sit's going to be easy comparatively going
forward. And I do think thatthe Wolves will win this series. But
I think that Dallas is a monsteropponent, and I think that Luca and
Kyrie are hugely formidable foes to haveto deal with because they're playoff tested.
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They are incredible shot makers, andit's just going to have to be so
much more perimeter oriented with their defensethan it was in the in the Denver
series, and that's going to bea huge test for them. And has
already told us he's going to guardKyrie. So who's the logical defender,
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first defender on Luca. Yes,Jayden, He's done it before for them.
You know, Lucas had some biggames against him and he's had some
success against Luca as well. ButI think it's going to be Jade McDaniels.
Obviously, foul trouble will be somethingyou watch very closely because what I
will be interested in Dan is Idon't know if Jayden is either ineffective or
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in foul trouble. Well, who'sthe second guy you throw out? Luca
is it Nikhiel. I don't thinkhe's quite big enough, is it,
Kyle Anderson? Well, then yougive up some offense, you know,
do you just switch ants onto himand then try and put Conley in front
of Kyrie. There's that possibility aswell. They have flexibility to be able
to do some try some different things, but it's not quite as clear as
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what Plan B is, whereas Ithink Plan A is pretty clear. I
think Jayden is going to be onLuca and is going to be on Kyrie,
and they will attack it that way, with Rudy kind of working on
the back, on the back line, trying to make things as hard as
possible for them. We will chatfrom the cage on a Wednesday. Thanks
Johnny, We appreciate you as always. All right, Thanks Sam, Thanks
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very much for the time. Letme put Johnny on hold here before I
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Next question, Man, the season'sover. That's what's hard, being twenty
season's over. You don't understand thatseason's over. It's hard. Stupid ask
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questions. You're all nothing I lovebetter than to issue a stupid ask question
or two. We'll do our bestto try to live up to that standard,
because sometimes the greatest answers, includingthat one, is elicited by a
stupid question. That's the the unknownor the underrated part of rolling your eyes
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at the stupid question. Well,what's the answer that's getting the most attention,
And in that answer, he's layingout some of the emotion. Is
uh, is it Mike Malone,the head coach of the Nuggets, sometimes
Michael, sometimes Mike exactly that that'sthe deal. By the way, I
texted Ryan Saunders today. I haven'theard back from him. I'm hoping we
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can have him on at some point, you know, when he when he
kind of allows himself to get awayfrom it all and talk a little bit
about, if not the series,if that's uncomfortable, uncomfortable for him,
what he might think is going tobe happening moving forward. Wolves favored over
the Dallas Mavericks. Boston is obviouslyheavily favored over the Pacers. I think
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maybe a little too heavily, frankly, but we'll see. I think that
might end up being a surprisingly longseries. Let's clear the uh, let's
do some housekeeping. Is that theterm we use? Yeah, housekeeping?
Yeah, we can covenant clean up, covenant clean up, whatever you want
to call it. The silence youhear is lambeau Field was Bob Trumpy.
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But it wasn't the Brandy Moss breakoutMonday night game. It was the Michael
Vick shocking the Packers in the playoffsat LAMBA. Oh yeah, that was
apparently, I'm reminded, and Ithink that sounds right to me. Yeah,
we had it in the system atsome point. It may have gotten
deleted, but yeah, I wasBob Trumpy on that. But it was
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not the Boss game. As Ihad mentioned earlier in the program. I
really like what six' five toone guy is smoking here regarding his attempt
to further articulate my appreciation for whatthe Wolves did yesterday during the comeback in
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largely well, obviously, it wasin the second half of the ballgame,
in which, for a decent stretchafter being down fifty eight to thirty eight,
we were up ninety to eighty twowith I think three minutes to go
just over three and hit the threetimeout Nuggets a rods on the court.
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It's chaos. Fifty four to twentyfour during that stretch a thirty, we
outscored the Nuggets by thirty. Andit's my belief that the slow moving,
the dawning of what might be happeninghere is more pleasurable, or should be
more pleasurable than the Minneapolis Miracle becauseof the slow cook nature of it and
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the belief where you do you similarly, you go from it's over, Johnny,
to wait a minute. And Ithink when it builds slowly in the
end, it's actually more dramatic andmore or nurturing and more satisfying. And
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to that point, six five toone guy writes, when we started chipping
away at the lead, you couldfeel the crescendo building, and when Ad
hit that three to be down one, it was like the beginning of a
ten minute guitar solo. Nazrid Catsfollow up dunks with the crashing symbols at
the height of the energy, ridiculous, the miracle was, and oh my
god, we're gonna blow this game, and definitely quiet, and all of
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a sudden you turn on your stereoand forgot it was left on full volume.
So Tomato, Tomato, I likethe ten minute guitar solo. I'll
take a ten minute guitar solo everyYeah, everyone to put it in the
podcast. Well, that's it,that's you'd play it. It's a very
good point. That's that's uh.I hadn't really looked at it that way,
but that's probably true. Dan OldsmobileGuy writes, I don't think Wolves
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fans are quite prepared for how muchLuca complains and wines to the rest.
We've only seen it in one gamein it will likely be beyond grading for
a over a whole series. Hemakes Cat, Cat and Ant look like
Eagle scouts. That's true. Comparatively, it's undeniable. It's it's a it's
a bone of contention even among Mavericksfans from time to time, and even
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the head coach Jason Kidd. It'sthe classic case of but look at all
he can do? He had Ithink in their winning game, their closeout
game, he had ended up witha triple double he played? Was it
game five? He stunk they wantedin six? Right, No, may
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have been the game before he hadMaybe it was. It might have been
game four that he was awful,just awful. By the way, Caitlin
Clark's back on TV. She's onTV. She got a game like every
like twice a day. I playinga full eighty two. It's unbelievable.
Yeah, and they they're winless yet, right, they're zero and three yeah,
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and they're playing the Sun, butthis time, this is the rematch.
This is in Indianappa list. She'soff to a very nice start,
by the way, even though theclub is down six though everyone's mad at
her coach not using her right,Well, what what is she doing?
Criticism? Not letting m they're playingher off the ball too much? Oh,
I see, yeah, give hera minute, I know, you
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know, I even give the coacha minute to maybe figure some things out.
I worry she's going to be theDoug Collins in this situation. Yeah,
very like the next coach. Yeah, he's got a profit. Is
that what you're saying. I'm prettysure Sham's already has a story. Yeah,
yeah, probably true. Where werewe? Oh yeah, Luca does.
I mean, it's it's like nothingI've ever seen in watching basketball for
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forty years. I I don't thinkthere's anything like Luca's level of of complaining.
But so it probably will get oldquickly and then a hand. It's
a nice subplot for you. Youhave some fun with it. You can,
you know, mock him and ridiculehim. I don't think he's going
to be affected by any of thatnecessarily, but there are times you can
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take advantage of the fact that he'swaiting on or he's on the on his
butt on the other end of thecourt. So the early matchups make sense.
If indeed Aunt is going to guardKyrie, which is just a that's
a matchup for the ages man.That's that's really good, it will more
likely it'll be Jaden at least startingon Luca, and I think you will
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see some SloMo. I think youhave to accept what SloMo doesn't give you
offensively at this point if you canget away with it. It depends on
who else is out there and allthat kind of good stuff, because I
do think he's he's a smart defender. He's got the body to make things
interesting. I mean, nobody reallystops Luca from creating space. He's very
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good at separating, right, buthe might be as good as anybody who's
ever who's ever played in that regard. But I bet you he's the logical
guy right as a secondary guy,yep, especially if if if Jaden runs
into some uh, you know,some foul issues, not you know,
not as tall, but he's kindof rangy, and you know, lucas
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just solid. Yep, Luca issolidly built, is he not. Yes,
it's incredibly solid. By the way, real quick, faver break,
It's time to getaw right for thesecouple of years. Yeah, I was
not pleased with him. I mean, he was the one guy this series
and never really Obviously he played greatin Game two, everybody did, but
he's gonna get I mean, thedifference between the first half and the second
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half, principally besides the defense,was guys hit the shots that were created
by what Denver was trying to dodefensive, yes, right, including Anthony
Edwards hitting his own shots. Butthese guys, I said at halftime.
The best story ever on playoff stuffis Trent Tucker talking about when Phil Jackson
pulled him aside ninety three Game threebrought up like him and Packson, it
was like, you're gonna get likethree or four shots and you have to
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make all of them, Like itsounds crappy, and how Sam Mitchell all
of a sudden hold on Dan.Yeah, you're paying I got fifty million
dollars. This guy's getting two andhe's more important. Come on, Dan,
Come on Dan. But Tucker saidit, and it's a great way
to do it, Like you gotthese role players have to make the shots
that they are presented with. That'show important. It almost seems unfair.
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It is because it's such a smallsample side. They only have so many
minutes, so much pressure. Theydon't have much of a chance if they
start zero for four. It's notlike with Jamal Murray. They don't have
a chance to play out of that. Right, Chase Murray knows you can
be able to take like twenty fivemore shots. Correct, big difference.
Let's come back. We'll have somefun with some sound off of game number
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It's the bumper to bumper show rap. We call it the Luka line.
This season for a reason, there'snot and nobody that's why it's the
Lucal line, because nobody, Ithink, in the history of basketball complains
quite as incessantly as he does.We've had our moments where we've edged towards
the Lucal line. We've done abetter job of that more recently. Charles
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Barkley Howling. This is how itsounded before the start of Game seven on
the TNT crew. I think there'sabout the fabulous series. Probably get them.
Who do you like? I likethe Wolves? Okay, yeah,
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it's not unusual. We don't needthat. Oh I think. Oh that
was before the game. This wasafter an exchange between Sir Charles and Anthony
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Edwards. I have not been toMinnesota in probably twenty years. Brian your
ass. Hey, hey, tellyou to send me a less of good
restaurants. We're gonna be there forlike five days. I want you to
send me a lift. That's somegood restaurants. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna find your number through somebody. I'm gonna send them to you.
I appreciate it, my brother,Congratulations, I'll see you Wednesday.
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Appreciate it. Baby. Well,if you want it, number, it's
five five number. So they'll bein town for games obviously one and two.
Right, will they be back forgame five or will it not be
a game five? Oh? Goodquestion? Will the brooms be out?
I'd be surprised. I think Iwould be two, But I take it.
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We're learning again. You just younever quite know. You never know
until you do know. Maybe wewrap up with the closure. What made
it feel like? Yes, thiswas the Wolves game. Conley picks the
pocket of Jamal Murray. Conley featsus An Oas down the lane, extra
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pad to the corner, and setshimself fired the three phasa. It's ninety
two eighty two. The Wolves leadby ten with three zero five left to
play. An unbelievable turnaround here inthe second half, from down twenty to
top ten in a game seven witheverything on the line. Ninety two eighty
(59:28):
two timeout, Denver one a swing. This has been big time shot after
big time defensive play, and itjust continues. The second half has been
dominant. It's been unbelievable. Thatwas the game winning shot. Final scores
ninety eight ninety so technically speaking,that that three won it. That put
(59:52):
them up to silence in baller.So it's gonna be Harlan, Yeah,
going to be Reggie and is Jamalto automatically this round? Is that?
How is that? Is that theduo? The trio? No? Yeah,
I guess you could say who wasReggie. It was just Reggie and
(01:00:13):
Harlan before, right, Yeah theyadded last year, I can't remember.
I think he's been a decent addition. I think they play off each other
reasonably. Well, yeah, i'dlike to see him disagree a little bit
more. But people say that aboutus too, so I can't complain.
I can't rip it too much.You know what I was thinking when the
Knicks and Pacers game was going onyesterday, how it's still criminal that Jeff
(01:00:36):
van Gundy. They did Jeff vanGundy like they did Jeff Fang And I
like JJ and I like Doris.It's not an indictment on those novel but
it's not as good a broadcasting.I'm sorry. It's not just not it's
not Van Gundy. Just it feltlike the finals, or it felt like
a big moment at least the lastseventeen years or however long he did it.
Yeah, it was great, andit's just ridiculous they did that.
(01:00:59):
So tomorrow's Tuesday, Uh, Corey, we will talk a little bit of
baseball with Corey Provis maybe some basketballtoo, who's to say. The rest
of this week, we expect alot of really good guests, Sam Mitchell,
Mike Wilbond, Kevin Harlan, MitchLawrence, Mitch Lawrence, and we're
(01:01:20):
working on a bunch of other peopleas well, so I think we're gonna
be able to fill it pretty nicely. We will be doing shows from the
Cage Target Center both for game beforegames one and two, and that of
course is Wednesday night, and thenFriday night Game three. They're all night
games right in this series. Yes, it's all the same time. We
said, Yeah, Sunday Sunday isseven o'clock I think, but the rest
(01:01:43):
of them are seven thirty. Ibelieve, gotcha. Our Cage Show is
brought to you by Crazy Fresh,Crazy Fresh Produce. Very excited about that.
That's great. People jumping on oneof the odds we could get Mark
Cuban to come to the Cage allbefore a game. It's just occurred to
me. Now, I didn't reallythought about it. You're right, the
odds on that, you think,I mean, not great, Probably not
great, but it's worth a try. Isn't it. I you guy,
(01:02:07):
we got can we use that bondingexperience as a possibility? And younger than
me, you and Bosch and alittle bit more successful Tom, a little
richer. Well not for now.Well, yeah, your story is not
done. I got a long wayto go. He still being really very
true. So tonight fan and aman in the air. Is that correct?
Yes, I'm assuming Chris Finch willbe a part of it, and
(01:02:27):
a bunch of wolves followed by DanPatrick, and we will start it all
over again tomorrow at three. Thanksfor the text, Thanks for the feedback.
We will talk to you then.And I believe that the Minnesota Timberwolves
are going to win the world too.
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