April 24, 2020 • 7 mins
Tom discusses President Trump’s brilliant strategy that got him elected, as well as the missteps of his 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton, that aided his own efforts. But he’s now facing an opponent unlike any he’s taken on before in the Corona virus, and Tom shares his advice for the President to most successfully tackle this challenge.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I heard radio presents Tom Broke off now here this
I know a lot of us, probably all of us,
are trying to find out about what's going on, where
it's likely to go, and who can we trust. Let
me offer a name. His name is Michael Ostraholm of
the University of Minnesota. He is probably the world's leading
(00:22):
authority on this kind of biological attack. He's been at
it for some time. In fact, he came to NBC
when we were having trouble in our city and in
our offices as a result of am tracks the attack
that some of you may remember. I saw him again
this morning on television, and he was so confident and
so plain spoken, and what he had to say was
(00:44):
so unsettling. This is not a seasonal event. He fully
expects that there will be more attacks come to fall
as we move into the colder season. He also believes
that it will require the best efforts of all of us.
It's not a political shoe. It's a deeply scientific issue,
and we have to keep that in mind. It is
(01:05):
a result of so much and overcrowding of the planet,
the warming of the planet, the inability to get our
hands around or find an effective defense against biological attacks.
No president would have been prepared for this, but this
president seems especially not prepared for it. He came into office,
(01:27):
it's fair to say, as a salesman selling himself and
his view of what needs to be done in this world.
He had his own reality. He loved slogans Donald Trump,
get ready for what's coming up next, Make America great again,
to make him a star is what he was really
looking for, and a personality with appeal to a lot
(01:51):
of people who were fed up with politics as usual.
It was a brilliant strategy. It was overblown, but the
fact is that he got into office and he continued
to have support, primarily because of the economy, which was
booming after the tax cats that he rushed through. Those
tax cats also left us with an exceptional deficit of
(02:13):
over a trillion dollars, and how will balance all that
out remains to be seen, especially given what we're going
through right now, spending all this money and almost none
coming in. He found out there in America a lot
of people just fed up with politics, and so they
have rallied around him, and they have his slogans that
(02:36):
they wear on their shirts and on their caps and
they show up wherever he is for In fact, he
had the perfect opponent, Hillary Clinton, a woman with a
distinguished record as a student, as a lawyer, as a
member of Congress, and also as a Secretary of State.
But the fact is the Clintons had stayed too long.
(03:00):
People were looking for new faces and new approaches, and
strategically she made mistakes during her campaign as well, turning
her back on the kind of people who put Donald
Trump in office. One friend of mine, who was at
a rally, watched her get out of the car, ignore
the mounted state policeman and go immediately to a group
(03:20):
of people representing a demand for racial equality, which is
understandable and also for a feminine group. She could do that,
but she should have turned back to say something to
the state patrolman as well, and did not, And I'm
sure that rocketed around the state of Michigan and Wisconsin.
Was proved to be very important to her. Donald Trump
(03:44):
from the beginning ran as an outsider, a man who
said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue of New
York and nothing would happen to him. He believed that
he could do everything on his own. He went through
a succession of seeing your official secretary of State, the
people who were his chiefs of staff, other advisers. I
(04:05):
talked to a member of converse in his own party
who said they put together a proposal for him, and
the one that they really wanted to adopt they put
at the bottom, and they had too kind of, if
you will, distracting counter proposals off to the side. He
took a look at all three of them, tore him up,
throw him away, and said, I'll get back to you
with my idea about what we're gonna do. That goes
(04:26):
on on a regular basis, and it has worked for
him up to this point. Now he faces an enemy
that he cannot conquer, and anecdotes from the podium in
the White House on his daily briefing are not going
to change that reality. He's trying to shut down too
often a lot of his best scientific advisors. He believes
(04:48):
too much in the tax cut and what it can do.
But the fact of the matter is this biological attack
is not paying attention to tax cuts. They're not paying
attention to rallies in which she wears a cap saying
make America great again. In fact, and I'm not an
adviser to him. But if I were, I'd say, Mr President,
(05:10):
your job is one of the great jobs in the
history of democracies, and during this critical time, you have
no greater obligation than to put together a bipartisan coalition
in which Democrats and Republicans alike, on a daily basis,
are working out their problems with one goal in mind,
(05:30):
to save America and the world in effect, from the
scourge that is before us. If we don't do it,
if we continue to play the political games that are
now under way, it will only linger and do more damage,
and more people will be hauled into hospitals, put on
ventilators and not emerge. It is the greatest challenge of
(05:53):
my lifetime. And I lived through the nuclear age, Vietnam eleven,
all the great catastrophes of the last sixty years, including
World War Two. But this one, this one is very,
very challenging because it requires a unified approach, and if
(06:16):
we continue to go about it in a kind of
divided way, ignoring the scientific facts, we cannot win. Because
this is an enemy that we can eliminate with a
nuclear bomb. We cannot eliminate with the best troops in
the world or with air raids. This is nature getting
(06:38):
back at us in some fashion, and we have to
find a way to develop a vaccine and be prepared
that it's still out there, and we'll have to have
new defenses for dealing with it. I hope that we're
up to it. I hope not just for my children
and grandchildren, but for America and all that we say
(07:00):
in for I have been a great beneficiary of living
in this country, coming from working class parents and having
all the rewards that were available, and I've been deep
into the construction of America as a journalist. But now
I'm hoping that we can find a way to get together,
(07:21):
to collect our thoughts, find the best way out, and
not worry about who gets the credit. I'm Tom broke
off her iHeart Radio now Here. This
I heard radio presents Tom Broke off now here this
I know a lot of us, probably all of us,
are trying to find out about what's going on, where
it's likely to go, and who can we trust. Let
me offer a name. His name is Michael Ostraholm of
the University of Minnesota. He is probably the world's leading
(00:22):
authority on this kind of biological attack. He's been at
it for some time. In fact, he came to NBC
when we were having trouble in our city and in
our offices as a result of am tracks the attack
that some of you may remember. I saw him again
this morning on television, and he was so confident and
so plain spoken, and what he had to say was
(00:44):
so unsettling. This is not a seasonal event. He fully
expects that there will be more attacks come to fall
as we move into the colder season. He also believes
that it will require the best efforts of all of us.
It's not a political shoe. It's a deeply scientific issue,
and we have to keep that in mind. It is
(01:05):
a result of so much and overcrowding of the planet,
the warming of the planet, the inability to get our
hands around or find an effective defense against biological attacks.
No president would have been prepared for this, but this
president seems especially not prepared for it. He came into office,
(01:27):
it's fair to say, as a salesman selling himself and
his view of what needs to be done in this world.
He had his own reality. He loved slogans Donald Trump,
get ready for what's coming up next, Make America great again,
to make him a star is what he was really
looking for, and a personality with appeal to a lot
(01:51):
of people who were fed up with politics as usual.
It was a brilliant strategy. It was overblown, but the
fact is that he got into office and he continued
to have support, primarily because of the economy, which was
booming after the tax cats that he rushed through. Those
tax cats also left us with an exceptional deficit of
(02:13):
over a trillion dollars, and how will balance all that
out remains to be seen, especially given what we're going
through right now, spending all this money and almost none
coming in. He found out there in America a lot
of people just fed up with politics, and so they
have rallied around him, and they have his slogans that
(02:36):
they wear on their shirts and on their caps and
they show up wherever he is for In fact, he
had the perfect opponent, Hillary Clinton, a woman with a
distinguished record as a student, as a lawyer, as a
member of Congress, and also as a Secretary of State.
But the fact is the Clintons had stayed too long.
(03:00):
People were looking for new faces and new approaches, and
strategically she made mistakes during her campaign as well, turning
her back on the kind of people who put Donald
Trump in office. One friend of mine, who was at
a rally, watched her get out of the car, ignore
the mounted state policeman and go immediately to a group
(03:20):
of people representing a demand for racial equality, which is
understandable and also for a feminine group. She could do that,
but she should have turned back to say something to
the state patrolman as well, and did not, And I'm
sure that rocketed around the state of Michigan and Wisconsin.
Was proved to be very important to her. Donald Trump
(03:44):
from the beginning ran as an outsider, a man who
said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue of New
York and nothing would happen to him. He believed that
he could do everything on his own. He went through
a succession of seeing your official secretary of State, the
people who were his chiefs of staff, other advisers. I
(04:05):
talked to a member of converse in his own party
who said they put together a proposal for him, and
the one that they really wanted to adopt they put
at the bottom, and they had too kind of, if
you will, distracting counter proposals off to the side. He
took a look at all three of them, tore him up,
throw him away, and said, I'll get back to you
with my idea about what we're gonna do. That goes
(04:26):
on on a regular basis, and it has worked for
him up to this point. Now he faces an enemy
that he cannot conquer, and anecdotes from the podium in
the White House on his daily briefing are not going
to change that reality. He's trying to shut down too
often a lot of his best scientific advisors. He believes
(04:48):
too much in the tax cut and what it can do.
But the fact of the matter is this biological attack
is not paying attention to tax cuts. They're not paying
attention to rallies in which she wears a cap saying
make America great again. In fact, and I'm not an
adviser to him. But if I were, I'd say, Mr President,
(05:10):
your job is one of the great jobs in the
history of democracies, and during this critical time, you have
no greater obligation than to put together a bipartisan coalition
in which Democrats and Republicans alike, on a daily basis,
are working out their problems with one goal in mind,
(05:30):
to save America and the world in effect, from the
scourge that is before us. If we don't do it,
if we continue to play the political games that are
now under way, it will only linger and do more damage,
and more people will be hauled into hospitals, put on
ventilators and not emerge. It is the greatest challenge of
(05:53):
my lifetime. And I lived through the nuclear age, Vietnam eleven,
all the great catastrophes of the last sixty years, including
World War Two. But this one, this one is very,
very challenging because it requires a unified approach, and if
(06:16):
we continue to go about it in a kind of
divided way, ignoring the scientific facts, we cannot win. Because
this is an enemy that we can eliminate with a
nuclear bomb. We cannot eliminate with the best troops in
the world or with air raids. This is nature getting
(06:38):
back at us in some fashion, and we have to
find a way to develop a vaccine and be prepared
that it's still out there, and we'll have to have
new defenses for dealing with it. I hope that we're
up to it. I hope not just for my children
and grandchildren, but for America and all that we say
(07:00):
in for I have been a great beneficiary of living
in this country, coming from working class parents and having
all the rewards that were available, and I've been deep
into the construction of America as a journalist. But now
I'm hoping that we can find a way to get together,
(07:21):
to collect our thoughts, find the best way out, and
not worry about who gets the credit. I'm Tom broke
off her iHeart Radio now Here. This
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