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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know what I love about it when a compelling
guest comes into the studio, like Tom Sandoval from vander
Pump Rules. I love between this studio and the back room.
There's a big, solid glass window, and I can see
the smile on everybody's faces back there, even before the
(00:20):
conversation that we're gonna have with Tom. Mikaela is excited,
Ruby's excited, Jen's in there, who else anybody else in
there watching?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Collect stepped out?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Collect? She stepped She doesn't protesting? Yeah, she's protesting. So
Tom sand of all you can listen to. Everybody loves Tom. Yes,
interesting title, right name, and iHeartRadio where ever gets your podcast.
We'll talk about that in a second. So I saw
you get back from. Was it called Bravo Con in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, Bravo Con. It was the third Bravo Con. It
was the first one in Vague. The other two have
been in New York and every year it's it's gotten
bigger and bigger, and it's, uh, it's a chance to
connect with fans and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Was it more wild because it was in Vegas versus
New York?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Definitely. I definitely think collectively. Everybody's eyeballs were just like
hurting from like lack of sleep, burning the candles at
both ends, you know, you know, having roulette tables you
know there, and yeah, it was a it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So Tom Sanawa, you go to Brava Khan, you get
mixed welcoming, right, you get a little bit of booing
or a lot a lot of booing, some clopping.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Does that how does that affect you? Well, you know
it hurts, it does you don't like to be both?
I don't think most people do. But I expected it,
especially in the larger panels.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We you know, we had a Vander Pumperowle's panel that
was over five thousand people. It was the biggest one
they had, and I expected. You know, it's kind of
like when you get that many people together, it's it's
almost like they're at a sport game in a sense, exactly,
the rooting for their team or a sports game. So
it's like you know, cheering when some people talk, doing
when some people talk. And I expected it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So so the show, I mean, Let's be honest is
extremely popular. I mean it is extremely popular. Probably in
your case, may be too popular, yes, because of some
of the things that happened well when it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Became even more popular this year, maybe because of choices
that you made.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, definitely for anybody who's not seen just you don't
need to go into detail, but to some up what
the controversy was all about, I.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Can sum it up in one word, scandaal and I
think everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I need to know what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, I just.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Need to set the scene. I think I want you
to defend. I want you to tell me you've theraprized
since Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think the reason why I got so big is because,
you know, as this scandal was happening, it was the
show is airing, so people started watching the show looking
for all the details of what, like how it was happening,
you know what I mean, like reading through the lines
in the sense that we're watching the show very differently.
(03:11):
And obviously it happened. It all. It literally, it all
kind of went down like the day we stopped filming,
like our last day of filming, and then all of
a sudden, it's like cameras are back up in our house.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And I think as fans and viewers, we were all
rooting for you and Arianna for so many years.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, what happened? Tell the people what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And then you started hooking up with Raquel or Rachel friend, Yes,
their friend at the time, one of their best friend
throughout the past previous seasons.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So when you look back at it, what would you
have done differently?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I mean everything, I mean everything, you know. I it
was something that I never thought I would get myself into.
But you know, it was a learning experience in that
aspect that I never think, Oh, that's nothing that could
ever happen to me, or I would ever because because
(04:05):
that's exactly what happened. I got completely caught up and
wrapped up in emotions and and and just not thinking
logically clearly or uh, you know, taking taking into consideration
any anything else, but just likely did.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You think, like, Okay, I'm gonna hurt Ariana, but I'm
not going to get so much backlashed publicly.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I wasn't thinking about like wanting to hurt Ariana at all.
I was just I had no idea, like what it's
something that just got so out of control. Yeah, and
you're just like, how do I handle the situation? It's
beyond it's it was so beyond.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah, I've never watched an episode of the show, and
I when it was all going down, I was like,
this is I've never seen anything like it. So then
I got invested and I like wanted to like watch
the reunion and like you know what I mean, because
it was just got blown into this whole took on
a life of its own.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Did you expect it to get so big?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
No I didn't. I mean considering all the like crazy
breakups I've seen, you know, pan out like on the news,
like Brad Pitt, Angelin and Jolie, Like you know, I
I did not expect to have you know, three cars
with you know, paparazzi parked outside my house for six months.
I mean that's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Like some people love that though, you know, some people kind.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Of want I mean you probably wanted that, but just
not for these reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Who are you dating now?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm not really dating anyone. You're single, I'm single. I'm single.
I'm staying single for a while. I'm taking time to just.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're good looking, dude, bro. I mean, you made choice,
but you're a good looking Hey, hey, so are you? Man?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I always figure out, always figure out to find a romance.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But I'm just saying to you, like you are a
good like. If I saw you out, you know, and
I saw you chilling talking to a group of girls,
I would be bummed right because you would have you.
You would definitely keep their interest. I see it. So
do you feel like you kind of you're just you're
taking a little bit of a beat and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Ruined your game. Is that what you're trying to ask?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But also, do people now that you women have me
when I'm with them right on what end?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, they have me signed the NDA. They don't want me,
they don't want they want to be seen with me.
They're like, hey, just you know, if we're gonna hang out,
let's let's maybe go on the back door.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I got to tell you, some of your fingernails are
amazing to.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Design's a that's an icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It takes the like a blue ombr into the white
and you you're not doing the white nail polish anymore.
You did ruin white nail polish for many people in
spring and summer.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm still seeing a lot of white nail polish though,
I really am. I'm surprised at how often because I'm like,
it catches my eye because everybody says that I ruined
white now polish and then but so I'm like, wait,
you're wearing white nail polish right now. What are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Is there any what's been I know you got your podcast.
What's been the upside of all of this for you?
Considering it was a skinned of all.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I would say, you know, my life, I felt like
I was on a path sort of burning the candle
at both ends. I was drinking every day even before
all of this hit, Like I was pretty much drinking
every day for years. When you when you're on a
reality show like ours, it's like you you I used
(07:35):
to call I call myself a professional drinker. Like and
the way we are, the way we're sort of seen
by and by the by the public, by our fans,
is like, you know, two very approachable guys like me
and Schwartz or whatever, you know that you want to
take shots with. So when we're out, I mean, it
is like, and people don't take no for an answer
that like we're taking a shot. We're taking a shot.
(07:56):
They bring them over.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's like shot right, shotsh.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, that's where the baby shots came from exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
My alcohol tolerants was insane. I have I haven't drank
in six months.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Wow, Yeah, that is something that.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Shane smoking cigarettes, that's done. And I'm not smoking weed.
You know, some people are like quit drinking, but I
just smoke weed every day.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Every day.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I go when I'm like, I've been out a lot,
so I'll go out keep myself busy socially, It's it's
been very interesting doing things like you know, I have
a we have a cover band. We're getting ready to
go on tour. Actually tomorrow we're gonna be in Chicago,
like Midwest Michigan. And yeah, but you know, that was
a huge thing. Is not going on stage like I
(08:48):
would have like three shots a couple of beers, just
like just to get the jitters out of this. So
like doing that, going dancing, going up and talking to
a stranger, like doing all these things. And that's kind
of what I want to do. I want to go
through life. You know, I've gone to a music festival
without doing anything. I've gone, you know, to Vegas twice.
(09:09):
I've gone. I've had a birthday, I've done Halloween. So
I want to do all the things before I come
back to to drinking.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's great. I mean it sounds like you needed it.
I feel like for us, we're we go like ten
days ten days of like and then we got to
watch a football game and have a margarita.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I love.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I think if it was if it was taking
over a little bit, that's a great, great thing. Yeah,
and that's a positive.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, it's difficult with owning two bars and.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
All that exactly style being out Like I look at
you know, the Houston Brothers or they're I mean, they're
great guys and they're always out. They're always you know,
you need to be out. You need you need to
be out there promoting your places and saying hi to people,
just like Craig is it Craig's you know going around
to every table, which is great. You feel like that
(09:59):
person touch and we have to do the same thing.
And you know, it's just that there's been a lot
of things like that, just sort of like you know,
journaling and and doing like guided meditation and a lot
of times like when I go out, I'll come home
and I'll work out uh at night instead of sitting
around drinking like scotch.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And maybe we could do that sometimes FaceTime each other.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, dude, I'd like to get a two a day
in I could second one an Hell yeah, I do
you imagine video each other on?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah? Man to sounds like it sounds like you're on
the right track real quick. Everybody loves Tom. What are
you doing on the podcast?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So right now you know it's we're you know, we
just had Doctor Drew on. That was a great episode.
You know, people have been able to come on the
podcast and uh, you know, ask me, talk to me
about whatever they want to talk to me about. And
it's been nice to have this sort of long format
because you know, with our show, it's like you get
five minutes out of five hours shot, right, and they
(11:00):
edit you down. Yeah, and you know, interviews and things
like that, they're always usually pretty short. So this is
more of a long form thing. It's funny, like I
make cocktails for people. I've actually only made one alcoholic
cocktail since we started. I think we've had like what
six gusts on now and most everybody nobody wants. Nobody
wants to drink anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Listen, man, congrats on it, good luck. Great to see
so much. Stay stay, keep us posted and and keep
up to the good life. It sounds like you're on
the right.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Looking forward to the new season.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be. It's be pretty intense, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Let me tell you, she's pissed at you for a
long time all year.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Actually, I am looking forward to the new season because
I want to see all the drama, and I want
to see it all in fold, and I want to
see how it plays out, because it's Does it pick
up where it left off?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I mean, yeah, it kind of does. I mean we
we filmed pretty late, so I mean it, it definitely does.
And I totally understand why people were mad at me.
They should have been. So this is going to be
a very interesting, very interesting season coming up.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Check it out. That's coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And Special Forces too, Yes, Special Forces so much.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's so good enough. Plugs you guys. I gotta go.
You know what I love about it when a compelling
guest comes into the studio, like Tom Sandoval from vander
Pump Rules. I love between this studio and the back room.
There's a big, solid glass window, and I can see
the smile on everybody's faces back there, even before the
(00:20):
conversation that we're gonna have with Tom. Mikaela is excited,
Ruby's excited, Jen's in there, who else anybody else in
there watching?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Collect stepped out?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Collect? She stepped She doesn't protesting? Yeah, she's protesting. So
Tom sand of all you can listen to. Everybody loves Tom. Yes,
interesting title, right name, and iHeartRadio where ever gets your podcast.
We'll talk about that in a second. So I saw
you get back from. Was it called Bravo Con in Vegas?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, Bravo Con. It was the third Bravo Con. It
was the first one in Vague. The other two have
been in New York and every year it's it's gotten
bigger and bigger, and it's, uh, it's a chance to
connect with fans and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Was it more wild because it was in Vegas versus
New York?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Definitely. I definitely think collectively. Everybody's eyeballs were just like
hurting from like lack of sleep, burning the candles at
both ends, you know, you know, having roulette tables you
know there, and yeah, it was a it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So Tom Sanawa, you go to Brava Khan, you get
mixed welcoming, right, you get a little bit of booing
or a lot a lot of booing, some clopping.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Does that how does that affect you? Well, you know
it hurts, it does you don't like to be both?
I don't think most people do. But I expected it,
especially in the larger panels.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We you know, we had a Vander Pumperowle's panel that
was over five thousand people. It was the biggest one
they had, and I expected. You know, it's kind of
like when you get that many people together, it's it's
almost like they're at a sport game in a sense, exactly,
the rooting for their team or a sports game. So
it's like you know, cheering when some people talk, doing
when some people talk. And I expected it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So so the show, I mean, Let's be honest is
extremely popular. I mean it is extremely popular. Probably in
your case, may be too popular, yes, because of some
of the things that happened well when it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Became even more popular this year, maybe because of choices
that you made.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, definitely for anybody who's not seen just you don't
need to go into detail, but to some up what
the controversy was all about, I.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Can sum it up in one word, scandaal and I
think everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I need to know what that means.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay, I just.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Need to set the scene. I think I want you
to defend. I want you to tell me you've theraprized
since Okay, I think.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I think the reason why I got so big is because,
you know, as this scandal was happening, it was the
show is airing, so people started watching the show looking
for all the details of what, like how it was happening,
you know what I mean, like reading through the lines
in the sense that we're watching the show very differently.
(03:11):
And obviously it happened. It all. It literally, it all
kind of went down like the day we stopped filming,
like our last day of filming, and then all of
a sudden, it's like cameras are back up in our house.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
And I think as fans and viewers, we were all
rooting for you and Arianna for so many years.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, what happened? Tell the people what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And then you started hooking up with Raquel or Rachel friend, Yes,
their friend at the time, one of their best friend
throughout the past previous seasons.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So when you look back at it, what would you
have done differently?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I mean everything, I mean everything, you know. I it
was something that I never thought I would get myself into.
But you know, it was a learning experience in that
aspect that I never think, Oh, that's nothing that could
ever happen to me, or I would ever because because
(04:05):
that's exactly what happened. I got completely caught up and
wrapped up in emotions and and and just not thinking
logically clearly or uh, you know, taking taking into consideration
any anything else, but just likely did.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
You think, like, Okay, I'm gonna hurt Ariana, but I'm
not going to get so much backlashed publicly.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I wasn't thinking about like wanting to hurt Ariana at all.
I was just I had no idea, like what it's
something that just got so out of control. Yeah, and
you're just like, how do I handle the situation? It's
beyond it's it was so beyond.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
Yeah, I've never watched an episode of the show, and
I when it was all going down, I was like,
this is I've never seen anything like it. So then
I got invested and I like wanted to like watch
the reunion and like you know what I mean, because
it was just got blown into this whole took on
a life of its own.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Did you expect it to get so big?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
No I didn't. I mean considering all the like crazy
breakups I've seen, you know, pan out like on the news,
like Brad Pitt, Angelin and Jolie, Like you know, I
I did not expect to have you know, three cars
with you know, paparazzi parked outside my house for six months.
I mean that's insane.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Like some people love that though, you know, some people kind.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Of want I mean you probably wanted that, but just
not for these reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Who are you dating now?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm not really dating anyone. You're single, I'm single. I'm single.
I'm staying single for a while. I'm taking time to just.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're good looking, dude, bro. I mean, you made choice,
but you're a good looking Hey, hey, so are you? Man?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I always figure out, always figure out to find a romance.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
But I'm just saying to you, like you are a
good like. If I saw you out, you know, and
I saw you chilling talking to a group of girls,
I would be bummed right because you would have you.
You would definitely keep their interest. I see it. So
do you feel like you kind of you're just you're
taking a little bit of a beat and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Ruined your game. Is that what you're trying to ask?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But also, do people now that you women have me
when I'm with them right on what end?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, they have me signed the NDA. They don't want me,
they don't want they want to be seen with me.
They're like, hey, just you know, if we're gonna hang out,
let's let's maybe go on the back door.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I got to tell you, some of your fingernails are
amazing to.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Design's a that's an icebreaker.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It takes the like a blue ombr into the white
and you you're not doing the white nail polish anymore.
You did ruin white nail polish for many people in
spring and summer.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I'm still seeing a lot of white nail polish though,
I really am. I'm surprised at how often because I'm like,
it catches my eye because everybody says that I ruined
white now polish and then but so I'm like, wait,
you're wearing white nail polish right now. What are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Is there any what's been I know you got your podcast.
What's been the upside of all of this for you?
Considering it was a skinned of all.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I would say, you know, my life, I felt like
I was on a path sort of burning the candle
at both ends. I was drinking every day even before
all of this hit, Like I was pretty much drinking
every day for years. When you when you're on a
reality show like ours, it's like you you I used
(07:35):
to call I call myself a professional drinker. Like and
the way we are, the way we're sort of seen
by and by the by the public, by our fans,
is like, you know, two very approachable guys like me
and Schwartz or whatever, you know that you want to
take shots with. So when we're out, I mean, it
is like, and people don't take no for an answer
that like we're taking a shot. We're taking a shot.
(07:56):
They bring them over.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's like shot right, shotsh.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, that's where the baby shots came from exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
My alcohol tolerants was insane. I have I haven't drank
in six months.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Wow, Yeah, that is something that.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Shane smoking cigarettes, that's done. And I'm not smoking weed.
You know, some people are like quit drinking, but I
just smoke weed every day.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Every day.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I go when I'm like, I've been out a lot,
so I'll go out keep myself busy socially, It's it's
been very interesting doing things like you know, I have
a we have a cover band. We're getting ready to
go on tour. Actually tomorrow we're gonna be in Chicago,
like Midwest Michigan. And yeah, but you know, that was
a huge thing. Is not going on stage like I
(08:48):
would have like three shots a couple of beers, just
like just to get the jitters out of this. So
like doing that, going dancing, going up and talking to
a stranger, like doing all these things. And that's kind
of what I want to do. I want to go
through life. You know, I've gone to a music festival
without doing anything. I've gone, you know, to Vegas twice.
(09:09):
I've gone. I've had a birthday, I've done Halloween. So
I want to do all the things before I come
back to to drinking.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's great. I mean it sounds like you needed it.
I feel like for us, we're we go like ten
days ten days of like and then we got to
watch a football game and have a margarita.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I love.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
But I think if it was if it was taking
over a little bit, that's a great, great thing. Yeah,
and that's a positive.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well, it's difficult with owning two bars and.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
All that exactly style being out Like I look at
you know, the Houston Brothers or they're I mean, they're
great guys and they're always out. They're always you know,
you need to be out. You need you need to
be out there promoting your places and saying hi to people,
just like Craig is it Craig's you know going around
to every table, which is great. You feel like that
(09:59):
person touch and we have to do the same thing.
And you know, it's just that there's been a lot
of things like that, just sort of like you know,
journaling and and doing like guided meditation and a lot
of times like when I go out, I'll come home
and I'll work out uh at night instead of sitting
around drinking like scotch.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And maybe we could do that sometimes FaceTime each other.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, dude, I'd like to get a two a day
in I could second one an Hell yeah, I do
you imagine video each other on?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah? Man to sounds like it sounds like you're on
the right track real quick. Everybody loves Tom. What are
you doing on the podcast?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So right now you know it's we're you know, we
just had Doctor Drew on. That was a great episode.
You know, people have been able to come on the
podcast and uh, you know, ask me, talk to me
about whatever they want to talk to me about. And
it's been nice to have this sort of long format
because you know, with our show, it's like you get
five minutes out of five hours shot, right, and they
(11:00):
edit you down. Yeah, and you know, interviews and things
like that, they're always usually pretty short. So this is
more of a long form thing. It's funny, like I
make cocktails for people. I've actually only made one alcoholic
cocktail since we started. I think we've had like what
six gusts on now and most everybody nobody wants. Nobody
wants to drink anymore.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Listen, man, congrats on it, good luck. Great to see
so much. Stay stay, keep us posted and and keep
up to the good life. It sounds like you're on
the right.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Looking forward to the new season.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be. It's be pretty intense, by
the way.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Let me tell you, she's pissed at you for a
long time all year.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Actually, I am looking forward to the new season because
I want to see all the drama, and I want
to see it all in fold, and I want to
see how it plays out, because it's Does it pick
up where it left off?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I mean, yeah, it kind of does. I mean we
we filmed pretty late, so I mean it, it definitely does.
And I totally understand why people were mad at me.
They should have been. So this is going to be
a very interesting, very interesting season coming up.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Check it out. That's coming back.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And Special Forces too, Yes, Special Forces so much.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's so good enough. Plugs you guys. I gotta go.
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