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In this second part of Classic Car Dr this week its all phone calls! Ron opens the segment taking multiple questions//calls on transmission service & repair; Both Chrysler products; one a 1996 Chrysler New Yorker and the other a 1998 RAM 2500 Pickup Truck. He then jumps into a conversation picking up where he left off with John from Vermont who has some additional questions and comments about a recent repair on his Audi. Ron finishes the week trying to finish John's concerns but ultimately runs out of time BUT he is able to guide John back to the previous repair facility with the right questions to ask to address the Audi's problems. 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back. We're on eating the Card Doctor, cruising along
this hour. By the way, this is an interview free hour,
So if you've got a question, get in and give
us a call at eight five five five six, so
ninety nine hundred. If you're listening to this on delayed broadcast,
then keep in mind that number is twenty four to seven.
You can call the car Doctor anytime, day or night.
We will call you back normally. It's Fast, Harry Fast.
Harry's out feeling under the weather this week. He teaches

(00:25):
vacation Bible school every year, and this year he was
with the kids for a week. And why don't you
know what? The kids got him sick. And I guess
that's Harry's penance. Maybe that's the way that works. But
he's feeling under the weather. We gave him the day off,
but he's out there listening, and he's there with the
He's here with us in spirit. By the way, Harry,
we gave your sandwich to the dog because we knew

(00:45):
she was hungry and we knew you wouldn't miss it.
So let's get over to John and Biloxi, Mississippi ninety
six christ in New Yorker, and some questions about a
transmission pen. John, Welcome to the car doctor.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
How can I help you, sir Hi, I was going
to be changing the pan gasket and the filter and
the food in the pan. Okay, Now, I noticed when
I bought the new filter it comes with a rubber gasket.
But then I I'm reading in the factory service manual
it calls for a mopar silicon adhesive ceiling right on

(01:14):
the right.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
And that's what and that's what I would use. We
actually use. You know, it doesn't have to be mopar specific.
They make it to a spec as long as you
use a good quality. The stuff that I've used for
years and years and years and years and years in
the shop is the right stuff from Permatext works. Great
black silicon tube is like in a big calk gun.
You can get it in small cheese whiz bottles too.

(01:36):
And if you just you know, make sure the pan
is clean, scrape it with a razor blade, let it,
you know, just like you don't need a lot, all right,
and you're just like thrusting a cake a little bit
of icing, Just make a thin line down the center.
Make sure you go to the inside of the bolts.
So that as it oozes and goos, it goes in
the direction of fluid, so it doesn't leak out through

(01:56):
the bolt holes, and you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
That's in the black tube, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Black tube. They only, to my knowledge, they only Permittext
only makes the right stuff in one color tube, and
only one color product. Years ago there used to be
blue and red and all these different colors, and I
don't even know if any of that is available anymore.
If it is, it's on the shelf so long, i'd
throw it away unless I could tell for sure what
the datecoade on it was. But the art, the right

(02:21):
stuff from Permatext, as RTV goes, is really the best.
It's the only thing we use in the show.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Should let it for an hour before now.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
If you read the bottom, it'll explain it to you.
We literally what we'll do is the way I do
that job is I'll undo all the pan bolts. Pan
comes down, change the filter, a little bit of some
SolV and spray wash out the pan a little bit,
wash out the bottom of the trans and the valve
body area, and while that's dripping, I'll start cleaning the pan.
Once I get the pan all clean. I'll dress the

(02:54):
edge with my RTV. I'll go back, wipe the pan
of the the area where the pans going to sit
of the transmission once again, and real quick pop it up.
So if I let it skin a total of three
to five minutes. Now, the secret is, I'll let it
skin on the bench just a little bit. I'll put
it up and then I'll wait a half hour before

(03:15):
I put fluid in it. And that's actually doing it
longer than you have to. If you read the instructions
on the right stuff from permatext, they actually tell you
that you can use it right away. There's no time
frame for it to set up. But I'm sort of
old school and I've learned from experience. You know what,
if enough is good, more is better, and too much
is just enough. Let's just give it a tweak and
let it sit there for a couple of minutes, and

(03:36):
you know, then let it sit in the cars, it
forms its seal and within a half hour, a' man
in fluid and we're good to go down the road.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, thank you very much for the information.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
You're very welcome. John. You have a good rest of
the day. Let's go over and talk to Chauncey, South Williamsport, PA,
home of the World Series, Little League Little League World Series.
Close to it, right, that's in Williamsport. He's in South Williamsport.
Is that correct, Chauncey, Yes, yes, right, So how can
I help you today, sir?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I have a ninety eight Dodge Ram twenty five hundred,
and when I bought it, the guy told me that
the training was needed, some work done to it. Right,
he said it was the pressure. It's a shifts I anoid.
There's a shift s soelenoid when you take training cover off.
And he said that if I changed that selenoid that

(04:26):
the truck would work, it would shift. But right now
it's like because I jacked it up and the truck starts,
but when it's in part and I put it down
to gear, it doesn't go into gear at all.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Okay, it doesn't. It doesn't pick up.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Trying to figure out if I should get a new
transmission or not.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
All right, well let's let's let's try and see if
we can dope this out. First of all, how many
miles are on the truck.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's one hundred and eighty four thousand miles, all.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right, have you ever had the truck to the point
where it moved? In other words, have you ever been
able to drive it? Or you bought it?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
No, bought it and had it towed.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, so you bought it broke and so to speak. Yeah,
all right, Is the fluid level in the trans any good?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah? I've had checked the fluid level and the transmission
before I pulled the transmission pan off.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
All right, and the fluids was fine.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Okay, I said, is a truck would start? But like
even when I put it from park down in the gear,
it wouldn't do nothing. Now, I also wanted to note
to you that when the truck was in neutral that
I could spin the tie. When it was jacked up,
I could spin the rear tires right, and the drive

(05:40):
shaft would go around even.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
When it was in neutral.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well it should when you're if you've got if you've
got the trans in neutral and the back tires are
off the ground, you spin the tires. You should drive
the you should drive the drive shift. That's why, you know,
think about it like this. That's why if you put
it in neutral while the truck is on the ground, yeah,
it'll roll forward. Because there's there's no lock in the
transmission holding it. Oh okay, all right, so you know

(06:07):
that that I have no problem with. That makes perfect
sense to me. Let me ask you this. Have you
dropped the pan at all? Have you looked inside the transmission?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Actually, what I did, I pulled the pan off, and
I took the old selenoid off right, And but I
didn't want to go ahead and get a new selenoid
and then get a bunch of you know, transmission fluid,
because that holds quite a bit of transmission fluid. It

(06:36):
probably would have cost me like seventy five dollars in
transmission fluid, and then plus to get the part was
probably about seventy five dollars, So that rate there would
have ran me one hundred and fifty. And then if
that didn't fix it, when I go.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
And I get a new training and put on it,
it's gonna cost me the transmission you know, and more fluid,
you know what I mean, because you can't reuse the
same fluid.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Sure, absolutely, But my question.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Was should I get a new transmission or how often
if you change that shift's ill anoid sensor? Well, let's
will that fix it or not?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Let's back up here a little bit because and part
of the problem is this could be a couple of
different transits. But I'm going to go on an assumption,
which we both know is a dangerous word, that this
is the transit has a trans relay, the trans relay.
Does this have a trans relaydy?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know, it's an automatic transmission for a five point
two Dodge Ram and as it's a four speed automatic
and shifts annoy's anti locked.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
All right. I bet if you look through the underhood
fuse box, because that's where I believe it to be,
you're going to see a label relayed on the inside
of the covers the transmission relay. All right. If you
pull the trans relay, what that does is the transmission relay.
The reason that's there is because they're electronically controlling the

(08:07):
governor and the transmission itself. You take the trans relay out,
you're sort of putting the transmission in a mechanical mode,
except overdrive won't work, if that makes sense to you.
All right, So if you pull the trans relay, you
should the transmission should start out in third gear. It'll
actually go into limp in. Okay, And I'm kind of

(08:29):
convinced from my seat here that you're probably going to
get the same result that nothing is going to happen.
And if nothing happens, if you still put it in gear,
then my next comment would be pull the trans make
sure the filter hasn't fallen out of its pickup. And
you know there's a lot of variables here. You don't
know the truck. You didn't buy it when it was running.

(08:51):
You know, I've seen cases where if the transmission filter
falls out of the transmission and it can't draw the
fluid out of the pan to feed the hydraulic circuits,
the train doesn't work either. But if you if you
pull that relay and the trans starts out in third year,
then we've got an external problem, all right, you know,

(09:12):
relay something electrical. Maybe we've got to solenrate issue internal
in the trans something along those lines.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
But right now I have I pulled the transmission pan
off the fluid drain, and I pulled the filter out,
and then I.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Took that that's out.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Okay, well, and I took that out.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Well to make this work, you'd have to put it
back together to run this test.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
All right, all right, and then put the fluid in and.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Then put fluid in it.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, but I don't want to have to it it's
not gonna work. I don't want to have to sink
another one hundred and fifty if I'm perhaps anyway.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So this is the roll of the dice. So at
that point, if the pan's already down and you can't
pull the relay to test it, then you've got to
you know, you've got to bite the bullet and put
a trans in it. But I've got to caution you.
You're putting a trans in a vehicle that you haven't driven.
You know, you don't know what kind of shape the
brakes you're in, the suspensions in, et cetera, and so on.
So you've got it.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
I looked at everything else. Everything else seems to be
pretty nice, pretty decent. Uh. I bought the truck and
the guy told me that he took it down to
the transmission shop and they put it on a task
and it come up with TCC clutching. The clutch clutch solenoid,
right clutch pressure syalinoid.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I think he said it was right.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, they have a pressure control salood.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
It would be anything past.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
That, right, that's right. So at one hundred and eighty
four thousand miles. Listen, if we were at the shop,
the way I described it to you with pulling the
relay is how is how I would test it. And
that's the first step in the diagnosis on that trend.
So you're you're sort of ahead of that point. So
you're sort of you're boxed in. There's no other way
to put it, Chauncy. You're you're either gonna commit going
backwards and putting fluid in it and starting over, or

(10:55):
you're gonna commit to putting a trans in it and
be done with it. At least then you've got a
transmiss and solved for what it's worth. If that's the
original trans one hundred and eighty five thousand miles, there's
a pretty good chance that it's the transmission anyway. And
if you fix one thing today, you don't know what
tomorrow is gonna bring it. It's there by mileage as
far as a pattern failure, right, and I know the how.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
The specs are on the Dodge rams well in that
year and around that year, the transmissions I have problems
with them.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Right, that's correct, and right and again, yes and again
you're dealing with something fifteen years old, one hundred and
eighty five thousand miles. You're you're at that point where
if you've got to make a commitment for dollars, then
make a commitment for the one you know it's gonna
work and that is replaced the trans If that's where
you're If that's where you're head at, Chauncey, I appreciate
the call. The clock's gonna grab me. I've got to go.

(11:45):
Let me pull over to the side. You have any
other questions, you know where to find us. I'm ronnin
Ay and the Car Doctor. We're back right after this.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
YU damn.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Hey, welcome back ron Ny and the card Doctor. Glad
to be here. How is it that I say that
happy to be here, proud to serve That's right, you
got that right. That's what the Car Doctor is all about,
trying to help you solve your car problems. At eight
five five five six nine nine zero zero. Let's get
over to John in Keen, New Hampshire, two thousand and one,
Audi with some Oh he's a callback. I remember this
was a couple of months ago. We were talking about
the timing belt and the water pump repair. John, how

(12:47):
can I help you today, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (12:49):
Well, I did get it done, run and the the
Watry company covered five eighty seven dollars worth of repair,
and I'll tell you the total amount in a moment.
He actually covered the water pump, nothing about the belt

(13:10):
or the rollers, and he ate because it's a four
point two V eight forty velour and there's other tensioner
you know, all that other stuff. And so I had
it done and they found two of the bolts holding
the water pump in it was stripped, so they had
to put those inserts in. And then I got the

(13:34):
car home. This was after they had it for two
and a half weeks. So get the car home and
lo and behold. Two days later, my son is home
and because I'm handicapped, and he says, hey, Dad, he said, oh,
he got a dent on the side and the car
on the driver's side in front of the rear wheel

(13:55):
and a scrape mark. Then he walks around the car
and he find molding underneath the passenger side headlight is
popped out and and the clips are broken. And he
continues on around the car and the passenger front fender
there's a mid molding on it with a little stainless
steel trips strip excuse me on it, and that's broken.

(14:19):
So anyway, I called the guy and they denied it.
So I said, well, I guess I got to fix
it myself. So I ordered a molding and managed to
find a used one, actually the correct color. I couldn't
believe this metallic silver.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Hey, John, let me stop you there in mid thought.
Stay put because we're gonna the clock's gonna take it.
This is a short segment, but we'll be back and
we'll have about two and a half minutes if you
just stay put and let me go do this. I'm
Ronning any and the car Doctor. We're back right after this.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Hey, welcome back, Ronan the car Doctor.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
We're talking to John from Keene, New Hampshire. John, you
were finishing up and I need a question. In about
thirty seconds, babe, on your two thousand and one out
of here, the clock's going to take us. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Okay? So, after I got the car home and and
by the way, I got the oem pots uh for
the timing belt right, all the rest of the stuff
that was intention and stuff. Yep, there's a leak on
the floor again.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Okay, So.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Bring him back to him and they find it. There's
a little phanolic resent pipe oh maybe an inch and
a half long by three cars of an inch in
diameter that goes to the oil cooler and that's is
where the leak was. So another six hundred dollars later
they fixed that. Right. Well, then I drive the car

(16:10):
and I've noticed that on a long pull on a
hill that if I leave it in the automatic motive
of the transmission, because as tiptronic, the temperature gage will
go from like eleven o'clock to a little over a
one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Right, I need a question. I need a question, John, okay,
because otherwise the clock's gonna cut you off and I'm
gonna have to go, bib What's what's what's your question?

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Now? My question is this, And that car has got
a thermostatic fan right in it, right, And it was
mentioned to me that that fan could possibly be defective
in that car and that it doesn't unhooked. Well, it's

(16:57):
not hooking up thoroughly.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Right, John. Here, You're question to me is is your
question to me is why is the car overheating?

Speaker 6 (17:04):
It's not really overheating, this is the thing.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Okay, Well, listen the clocks as I as I. You know, John,
I hate to cut you short. You got to go
back to whoever fixed it, Show them the problem, get
him to diagnose it. Whether it's covered under warranty or not,
I can't say, but from my seat here, they're responsible
to qu up with a reasonable answer and some sort
of a conclusion. I'm on an Enny in the car doctor.
The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you
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