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Ron starts todays' episode of Classic Car Doctor talking about his favorite tool; its always right, easy to use and real, real simple, Can you guess what it is? As an example he discusses a repair from the shop this week on a customers older Buick. He then goes to New Orleans for a first call and talks to the proud owner of a 2006 Chevy Silverado that has some air conditioning problems only on start up. He then concludes this all talk, no interview episode by talking to a caller addressing their concerns over Top Tier gasoline, how to properly identify it and the benefits of using it. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ron An Aanian and I realize I'm off on a tear,
but boy, this just frosts me. All right. The thing
that really amazes me is all the car manufacturers talk
about extending the oil change interval, and then we're going
to tell you that as a result, the oil is
dirty and now you gotta flush it. Hello, holding down
the road at eight miles the car Doctor hey.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Quoted us a price of over five thousand dollars to
supervide a we manufacture transmission for well women.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Let's back up a second. Let me ask you this question.
Have have you had it in for the recall? And
now you're going to say you're going to say what recall?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Welcome to the radio home of ron Ania the Car Doctor.
Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the
world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.
If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up
the phone and call in. The garage doors.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are open, but I am here to take your calls
at eight five five five six ninety ninehund and now he.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Running the tire.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Tank solves a lot of problems. Hello, and welcome ron
and Eni and the car Doctor here to answer your
questions at eight five five five six oh ninety nine hundred,
Here to take your calls and solve whatever's bugging you
about your car and getting you back out on the
road in a happy and safe manner. Take everything in
all about cars and throw it away on a weekly basis.
That's part of what this radio show is all about

(01:27):
if you're a new listener, because this radio show is
here to educate you on not what I saw twelve
years ago, but what I saw twelve years ago, twelve
days ago and this past week in the shop. This
radio show is here to show you the changing automobile
and how it continues to evolve. So if you don't
like that thing out in the driveway, if you've got
a problem taking it to your mechanic, stay where you

(01:49):
are for the next hour and let me see if
we can educate you up a little bit and make
you feel comfortable talking to your mechanic at a one
on one level and empower you to take that car,
take the wheel by the horns and where it's gotta go.
Some tools in a repair shop are good for more
than one thing, but they do that one thing really well,

(02:10):
Andre's a regular customer at Ariotomotive. He drives an older
Buick Century and he came in about three weeks ago
for four tires and a wheel alignment. Nice job, pretty
good work if you can get it right, straightforward, mounted,
balanced tires aligned down the road.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It went.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Good job until three days later the phone rang. Andre
had a problem. The left rear let me say it
like this, the left rear new tire had only about
twenty four pounds of air in it. He stopped by
and well, to my surprise, he was right. Now, you've

(02:44):
got to understand why I was surprised. Tire pressure gets
checked two times before it leaves us in a scenario
like this, sometimes it gets checked three. The tires get
checked once when they're mounted at the machine, they get
checked on the car, and in Andre's case, got checked
three times because we also did an alignment, and we
always check tire pressure before the alignment as a matter

(03:06):
of fact, because it has to come off one rack
go on the other into the other bay a little
later on in the day, and we always just take
that extra step just to be sure. And it's done
with three different gauges because you never know, you never
know when one gauge is gonna become a problem. You've
really got to be a fiend about tire pressure today.
So it really was kind of a surprise to see
that what Andre saw. Yeah, it was twenty four pounds

(03:27):
of air in the left rear tire. But it's new,
how could that be. One of my favorite tools in
the shop is the tire tank. You know what the
tire tank is. It's that big metal tub. Now they're
made out of plastic. I still have one made out
of metal from the forties and the fifties. That and
not that I was there to get it, folks, It's
just I sort of inherited it when we bought the
building many years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
We fill it up with water and you put the
tire in it, you look for leaks. And I love
the tire tank. To me, it's the best tool in
the shop. It's the most scientific. It's the simplest because
it never ever lies. Tell you everything. You put thirty
five pounds of air in a tire, stick it in
the tank, go slow and rotate it around. It's a

(04:09):
yes or no, definitive black and white answer. It's got
a leak or it doesn't. All right, The tire tank
is the most honest tool in the shop. You can
put big tires in it, you can put small tires
in it. It's non discriminatory, all right. Anything with hot
air you put it in that tank, it's going to
show you the leak. You could put every member of

(04:30):
Congress in the tire tank and sooner or later they'd
give it up and tell you where the problem is.
And I know it's tempting sometimes, but then again, this
isn't a political show. But the tank does its job,
and it did. It didn't let me down because a
few seconds in the water and there was a small
little trail of bubbles between the tire beat and the rim,

(04:52):
A rim leak or a bad new tire. Which one
was it? Well, we all know what new means, right,
ever worked, And in this case, after I dismounted the
tire and looked, I marked the spot and looked exactly
where I had seen the bubbles. Now somewhere in the
factory the tire manufacturer Cooper, as it turned out in

(05:14):
this case, decided to mount a little barcode label. And
I've never noticed it prior to this, because well it
hasn't been a problem. But in this case it was
because that barcode label that told them part number and
where the tire was made, and all the build information
was mounted right on the bead where it seals against
the rim. As a matter of fact, I looked at

(05:35):
some other tires we had an inventory a lot of
the manufacturers, if not I can say all the manufacturers
I had on the lot that day are mounting the
UPC code on the bead where it mounts and seals
against the rim. I'm thinking, here's a genius IDEA funny
thing is we haven't had a problem with it until
Andre's car peeled the label off, looked at the rim.

(05:59):
The rim was autbsolutely spotless, clean, put it back together.
Problem solved. The bottom line, it doesn't matter whether it's
new or old. It doesn't matter how big or small
it is. It doesn't matter how complicated it is. Every
job on a repair shop floor has a purpose, Every
job has a reason. Every job needs a specific tool

(06:23):
because it's just gotten to be that complicated of a vehicle,
even if it's something as simple as a tire tank.
Because as I've seen in many shops, they'll stand there
with a bottle of soapy water and a spray bottle
and just keep spraying until they see the leak. I
don't know that you would have seen the leak with
this truth be told. We had be tested the leak
prior to see if we could didn't see it. I said,

(06:43):
you know what, let's stop, Let's just get to the chase,
Let's pull the tire off, and let's look for the leaks,
because that's really where this is at. So it really
comes down to the most honest tool in the shop.
I think it's the tire tank. It's the simplest and
it just works best with the least amount of moving parts,
water and a tank. I love my tire tank. Hello

(07:06):
and welcome Ron and Ay and the Car Doctor here
at eight five five five six ninety nine hundred, here
to take your calls and answer your questions, solve your problems,
whatever you've got going on automotive. This is an interview
free hour. We're here to take and answer your questions.
If you are listening on a delayed broadcast. As you
listen across America this weekend, keep in mind this radio
show is live Saturday afternoons two to four pm and

(07:26):
you can call eight five five five six ninety nine
hundred and get in and get your car questions answered.
If it's out of that timeframe, call anyway, leave a message.
We've got a twenty four to seven recording service set up.
Fast Harry Fastarry dot Com will call you back and
get you up here on Aaron. Welcome into the family.
Harry's a little under the weather today, So if you
do call in, you're gonna talk to Big Tom Ray.
And I've got number one guy Tony atwood Man on

(07:48):
the board, and right now I'm gonna tell Tony, let's
open the garage doors, let's open the phone lines up
and talk to Jesse and New Orleans about a two
thousand and six Chevy Silverado and some problems with the
air conditioning. Jesse, Welcome to the car doctor. How can
I help sir?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Oh, thanks for taking a call.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
You're welcome.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, my old sixth Overado never had any problems with anything,
and about several times in the last month on a
story start up in the morning, I put Dacey on
and take off and the first thing, you know, there's
no cool ass all hot, right, So I checked my

(08:26):
stat you know, dashboard, make sure, everything's right. So I
just turned it off, hoping the window and like maybe
go to the drug store or something to come out.
Put it on and it works, Okay. I just wanted
them something that something, a sign of something to come.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, And the first place I'd start here, Jesse, and
I say this because if we were at the shop,
the way I'd approach this is the first thing I
tell you, Even if I can't see the problem, the
most important step in this diagnosis is to pull codes
out of the vehicle. And I want to clarify that
I know the check engine light's not on, That's not

(09:06):
what I'm talking about. You know, vehicles today set fault
codes for a multitude of systems for a multitude of reasons. So,
for example, there could be a P zero five point
thirty fault code in this vehicle, which has to do
with the air conditioning system, and you know that has
to do with one of the AC pressure sensors. And

(09:27):
if that's setting a fault and coming up, we could
have a pressure sensor that's that's intermittent, and that's the
computer doing its job. It worked, it didn't work, it
set a fault code, and now it worked again. And
now the mechanics got to go in and retrieve that
code and begin that part of the diagnosis. So you know,
I would start with a code scan regardless that there's

(09:49):
no dashlights on, because this could be you know, let's
extrapulate it. Okay, there are no fault codes. Now we've
got to find the reason why there's a relay involved.
This could be a weak field coil on the compressor
itself having a fault. We've got to look at the
air gap. This could be any one of a number
of pressure switchers and sensors. But yeah, you've got a fault.

(10:11):
The easiest way is catch it in the act. If
they can't catch it in the act, then they're gonna
have to start to set up some mouse traps as
I like to think of them, along the way that
they can tell, well, the electricity's gotten here, but it
hasn't gotten there. And one of the ways I tell
people to do that is you ever change a sidemarker

(10:32):
bulb in a car Jesse, small little two wire bulb, Right,
And what I'll do is I'll look at a wiring
diagram and I'll say, let's see, i've got a switch.
I've got power. I've got a switch, I've got a control,
I've got a component, and I've got a sensor. Let's see.
If I knew that electricity was getting to hear, then

(10:52):
that's half the system. So I always try to go
to the middle of the wiring diagram, and in a
lot of cases, I'll wire in a bulb. I'll just
wire in. I'll just go look a out a parts
store and just buy a one ninety four sidemark or
bulb and socket and wire it in. And hey, listen, Jesse,
go for a rude come back. Tell me when the

(11:12):
AC didn't work. Tell me if the bulb worked or not. Jesse,
You'll tell me. Hey Ron, you know the bullblit up? Okay,
then I'm gonna move it a little further down the
line and let me get to here. Do I have
power at the compressor? Hey Ron, I've got power at
the compressor. The bull blit up? You know what, Jesse,
You've got an intermittent field coil on the AC compressor
And I never even drove the truck, right, you know,
easiest simplest way to do it.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Okay, Well, well that's probably not something I can do.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
But yeah, I mean, it's something you're gonna have to
but you know you can get it right, bring it
in and let the guy in. You know what mentioned
to the guy, Hey, can you scan the AC compressor
or the AC system for fault codes? And if the
guy looks at you and you can see his eyes
roll around in his head, he's probably not the guy
to do the job, because a lot of guys don't
realize that there's codes in more than just the onboard

(11:58):
engine computer. All right, Sirry listen, Jesse, I'm here for you.
Thank you, sir, You're very welcome. A five five, five, six, nine,
one hundred. I'm ronning any in the Car Doctor, the
one and only original, and I'll be back right after this.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Gars out back all.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Hey, welcome back, run on any in the car Doctor.
I want to point out next week on the card doctor,
we're going to be cracking open the gift door Clauset.
We're giving away a fifty dollars gift card from the
nice folks at Auto Zone. We were talking with them
over the past couple of weeks and they're going to
be giving away a fifty dollars gift card. Here on
the card doctor, and and and part of their thought processes,
they'd like to, you know, dedicate towards break hardware. It's

(13:01):
good for whatever your heart desires at any AutoZone that
fifty dollars gift card. But keep in mind that if
you're doing a break job, break repair pads, rotors or
rear breaks, shoes and those kinds of things, break hardware
is sort of like the Rodney danger field of auto repairs,
the least respected, and it's kind of misunderstood and often neglected.
So think break hardware when you think that fifty dollars

(13:23):
gift card. Think break hardware when you walk into any
auto parts store, especially in AutoZone, and consider that part
of your next break job break repair to do a good,
safe one. When you do breaks, do it completely. Let's
get over and talk to Paul Staunton, Virginia wants to
talk about top tier gasoline and let's see what's going
on here. Paul, greetings from the North. How are you, sir?

(13:43):
All right? Oh, not bad? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, you've spoken in the past of top tier gases,
and of course there are a few that everybody knows,
and then there are some that, uh, I'm not sure
if they are or not considered considered to be that,

(14:07):
and I had gotten some Uh, there's a couple of
gas stations in the area that claim at least to
not havingny F at all, which I don't know. It's
it's said to be a problem for for some vehicles,
more so on the older ones than the newer ones.

(14:29):
And uh, anyway, and then of course the question of
my mind is they say it's that's an all free.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
How do I.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Really know that?

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well, and check it?

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yes, And and then that also is not one of
the quote unquote top tier, so you know they're there.
You maybe say, well, okay, it's if it is, that's
all free, but then again it's not top tiers. So

(15:01):
how much better is it if it is at all
or maybe not as good?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Well, let me let me let me answer it like this, Paul,
I don't know that top tier gasoline is ethanol free.
The problem that, let let's go back and start at
the beginning. Top tier gasoline came about because the EPA
is mandating that gasoline retailers reduced the amount of detergent
additive in their gasoline, in some cases by up to

(15:27):
fifty percent. So the problem becomes that, and what the
EPA is chasing is emissions, all right. The car company
is chasing performance and trying to reduce carbon deposits. So
you know, on one hand, the government's saying stop doing this,
and on the other hand, the car makers are saying,

(15:47):
but we have to do that in order to manufacture
a vehicle and sell it here in the United States
and stay in business. So there's got to be some
sort of happy compromise. And that's really where top tier
detergent gasoline comes in. Top tier gasoline, to my understanding,
is not necessarily whether it's ethanol free or not. It's
the amount of detergent additive that is placed in the

(16:08):
gasoline to help combat carbon deposits and engine deposits in general.
So that being said, the only way you're going to
know for sure whether it's a top tier detergent gasoline
or not is either get out to top tiergas dot com,
which is the national website for top tier gasoline, and

(16:30):
look up the retailer there and see if it's listed,
or to log into, for example, an aftermarket or a
manufacturer specific service information system and look at the bulletins
and say, because they've all got bulletins on it.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Well, not all.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
It's BMW, General Motors, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen, Mercedes, Benzanaudi are
the seven that are trying to create this top tier mandate,
and they're dealing with it head on by themselves. But
you know, if you look in their systems, they're going
to say, hey, top tier gaessolinge is available from and
and go down the list X y Z and it's

(17:09):
But to my knowledge, I haven't heard that ethanol free
automatically makes it a top tier gasoline. That's a different conversation.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Right, think, Uh, these stations in this area that are
claiming to be ethanol three are definitely not top tier
because they're there are brands that you don't see nationwide
or even or even statewide.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Right, Well, give me, give me the name of the
give me the name of the station, Give me the
name of the retailer. Who is it? Is it a brand?

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Well, one is it's the it's from the co op.
It's uh, it's it's tied in with the Commerce co Op,
right okay, And the other one is Royal. And then
there's another one it's just said, ah, I like the
momopop Chop.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I'll tell you what you know what you know? What
you do, Paul, because Paul, because the clock's gonna grab me.
Here's what I want you to do. Can you take
a picture of the gas pump where you're buying this
gasoline from? Does it say on it top tier detergent gasoline?

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Paul?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh okay, I've never I've never noticed that on anything.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yeah, go to a top you know what, Go to
a top tier station. Go to an Arco, Go to
a Chevron, go to an Exxon, go to a Mobile,
go to a Phillip sixty six, go to a Shell.
They're all gonna have stickers on their pumps that say
top tier gasoline. Go to the one that's claiming to
be top tier gas Take a picture of the pump.
See if there's a sticker on it. Send me that
picture and I'll do some research for you. We'll talk

(18:45):
about this in the up and coming weeks. All right, deal,
I gotta go. The clock's gonna grab me. I gotta
pull away and take a pause. I'm ron an any
in the car. Doctor. We're back right after this.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
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