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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Some morning show.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Me better know that's the people's choice. The Saluta on
my life skined brothers out there just hilarious.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
That's for the world. I last.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Just don't do no what man, Charlemagne talk you to
tell me? Everybody come to the breakfast club.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
I call this the hot seat nor breakfast cub.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
It's like you America's front port.

Speaker 6 (00:27):
Don't feel like my miss Puss. I've never called any pub.

Speaker 7 (00:30):
Every time I go to the breakfast club, I know
it's gonna be like the food man I'm.

Speaker 8 (00:34):
Getting it's a new day.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Is it your time to get it off your chest?

Speaker 9 (00:39):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Wait up for your man or bleat, it's time to
get up and get something. Call up now eight hundred
and five eighty five one O five one. We want
to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello, who's this?

Speaker 8 (00:50):
Oh my gosh? Did I get through?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh my god? Who's this?

Speaker 9 (00:54):
Oh my god?

Speaker 8 (00:55):
This is Amanda from Virginia.

Speaker 10 (00:57):
Virginia seventy five seven. Whatever man to get off your chest?

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:00):
So, like I just quit my teaching jobs. I'm gonna
try not to cry. If it was something really hard
for me to give up and everything after six years
and I'm scared right now because I have no idea
what I'm supposed to do or anything like that. And
I just turned twenty eight, and I feel like I'm

(01:20):
failing at life. So I need some advice.

Speaker 11 (01:23):
You are not failing at life, man. You know. One
of my affirmations this morning was embraced everything that happens
to you. And you know, being at you twenty eight,
you'll realize this as you get older, everything is just
part of a process. You gotta trust your instincts. Your
instincts told you that you didn't want to teach you
no more, right right, all right, Like I'm.

Speaker 8 (01:40):
Helping passing, so that be like I was having panic
attacks and everything is just seeking is not what it
used to be at all. And so I love the kids,
used to love the profession, but I just felt so
undervalued and unappreciated, like it was just it was hard.
So right now up because I'm about to go instacart

(02:02):
and hopefully i'll make a little something. I still I figured.

Speaker 11 (02:06):
Out that's what you should do. My mom is a
public school teacher. I was a public school teacher, so
I understand. I think that y'all are very underpaid. Undervalued
and underappreciated. So thank you for your service as a teacher.
But now you just got to pray and see what
God is going to lead you next, because He's God
is definitely telling you that you should be doing h
something else. You just got it. You probably already know

(02:27):
what it is. You're probably just scared to do it
right now. Right, you already know what it is, don't you.

Speaker 8 (02:33):
You said, what can't put my cash up out there?
Help you?

Speaker 11 (02:37):
That's not what that is not that is not without God.
God for you tell me what else God is telling
you to do before we get to the.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Cash app up.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
So that's that's all I got at the.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Moment, One step at a time. Go ahead, then go
ahead with your cash up.

Speaker 10 (02:59):
I rather cash apter only fans. Go ahead, mama, there
you go.

Speaker 8 (03:02):
See all right, it's solid time. Amanda capital A M
A and D and I see non sick.

Speaker 11 (03:12):
Hold on, I say it again, A M A and D.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
A yes, and I see non sick.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I see nine.

Speaker 11 (03:20):
Oh, Amanda, Nick, Amanda Chandler, that's you.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, you look like a school teacher.

Speaker 10 (03:27):
You're gonna put something hell cash?

Speaker 11 (03:29):
Yeah, just sent her a little Oh there you go.
I just sent you. I love I love school teachers.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Man.

Speaker 11 (03:32):
I think school teachers. Yeah, Like I said, I think
y'all are undervalued and underappreciated. We trust our kids with
y'all every day, and we live in a messed up
society because y'all should be making six figures a year
just because of what y'all got to deal with.

Speaker 8 (03:43):
To be honest with you, so harding out here now,
I want to go into the mental health. I'm doing
a sweet career switch, so I'm just hoping it all
works out. I'm praying and thank you guys. I really
appreciate you. Stick on my call. I listen to you.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Guys.

Speaker 11 (03:59):
Ever, did get you got what I sent you and
said it went through?

Speaker 12 (04:03):
Yes, it did.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
All right, get it off your chest eight hundred five
eight five one oh five one. If you need to
vent phone lines of wide open. It's the breakfast club.
Good morning, the breakfast Club.

Speaker 11 (04:21):
This is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're mad or blessed, so we get anything we
want to hear from you on the breakfast clubs.

Speaker 9 (04:28):
Hello, good morning.

Speaker 10 (04:30):
This is a drena you did off your chest, Mama.

Speaker 9 (04:33):
I'm a little nervous, but I really want people to
reach out to your friends and family, check on them
to make sure that they're okay. It's been almost eight
months since I lost my soulmate to suicide, and when
he committed suicide, we was on a break, but we

(04:54):
were still very much in communication with each other. But
I knew something was wrong, and my gut told me
to go check, but my head said no, don't do it.
And had I listened to my gut, I would have
known something was wrong and could have been able to help. Also,

(05:16):
with women and their children, when you have a man
that wants to be in the lives of their kids,
you shouldn't use the child as a poem to get
back because no one never ever thought that he would
commit suicide because of what was happening with his children.

(05:37):
So I just want people to just be aware of
those things.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Absolutely, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 11 (05:43):
Well, definitely sending you healing in agy queen.

Speaker 10 (05:45):
Yes, thank you, Absolutely all right, Mama.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I have a blessed that you guys do the same.
He's very heavy this morning.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
You got the money?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Hello? Who's this?

Speaker 12 (05:56):
Hello?

Speaker 10 (05:57):
This is blind Tommy.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
What's your tour?

Speaker 12 (06:02):
I'm bad because I'm cut. I'm a blind, broke comedian.

Speaker 11 (06:07):
Are you so?

Speaker 7 (06:08):
So?

Speaker 11 (06:08):
You got to pick one?

Speaker 13 (06:08):
Now?

Speaker 11 (06:09):
Which one you mad about? Being blind, being broke, or
being a comedian?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
All three?

Speaker 11 (06:13):
Well you shouldn't learn to see the bright shot?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Damnit?

Speaker 14 (06:17):
How you people not just stealing your money?

Speaker 12 (06:22):
I ain't got nobody to steal.

Speaker 10 (06:24):
Damn.

Speaker 11 (06:24):
I think I think you might be looking at this wrong.
Were you born blind?

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Look at you? You don't look at it?

Speaker 12 (06:30):
Was blind five years ago?

Speaker 11 (06:31):
Okay, okay, so well you're newly blind.

Speaker 10 (06:33):
You don't con Damn? How'd you get blind?

Speaker 15 (06:35):
Sir?

Speaker 12 (06:37):
So funk has gotten my system and they attacked my
optic nerves.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Damn? Sorry that bro?

Speaker 9 (06:42):
Have you?

Speaker 11 (06:43):
Have you learned any new skills? Have anything? Have anything else?
Scrimpened a little bit, but not that too much?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Got you?

Speaker 11 (06:50):
Got you? How can we help you this morning?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Brother? What can we do for you?

Speaker 11 (06:53):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
We'll see what we can do whatever it is? Off book?

Speaker 12 (07:01):
How get a book deal?

Speaker 16 (07:02):
Man?

Speaker 12 (07:02):
Work for you?

Speaker 11 (07:04):
You want a book deal? I'm be honest with you.
I'm interested in the story. I can't say they act
like I wouldn't want to hear more of the story.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Brailbooks.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
You want to write correct this morning and you get
get my guys information.

Speaker 11 (07:20):
I'm interested in hearing the story I want to see
if it might be a story there.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
You never know.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, hold on Tom, okay, all right, hold on time,
get it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five
one O five one. If you need to vent, hit
us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10 (07:33):
Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Only everybody, It's d J
n V Jess hilarious, Charlamage the guy.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
We are the Breakfast Club. You got some special guest
in the building. Indeed, you have the cast of Harlem.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
It's making good.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Say your name Jerry Johnson and Tyler Leflie.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Welcome.

Speaker 10 (07:57):
How y'all feeling this morning?

Speaker 14 (07:58):
Times phenomenal, amazing study, so good.

Speaker 11 (08:06):
Don't make sure everybody house is good.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Appreciate Okay, okay, let's get right into it. Harlem is
back January twenty third on Amazon Prime. But sadly they
say this is the last season. Why so many people
watch it? So many people are into it? How did
they just do it like that?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Ask Prime?

Speaker 17 (08:25):
We're really really sad, and I think like everybody's super
sad because we had so much story to tell, and
so like, if we did have more seasons, this would
have the stories would have been so good. But they
did such an amazing job truncating it bringing it down
into this final season.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
I think everybody's gonna be happy. But hopefully we get
a movie.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Okay, did y'all know it was gonna be the final
season when y'all started taping?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Did you know that already? Did y'all find a halfway through? Id?

Speaker 13 (08:51):
No, not halfway through. I think I found out a
little late, but sometimes I'm in my own world. But
I found out the day of the reading as we
were reading it. Now going into knowing that it was
the last season?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Are you saying we were reading? No before I knew it,
but I hadn't read the last two.

Speaker 13 (09:08):
I thought they were saving the last two episodes, so
I didn't know, you know, And then as we were
reading it, I was like, oh, no, this is it.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
But did y'all been doing a lot on the side
as well? Y'all been engaged, never having babies music?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So how were y'all doing all of that on the
side as well as taping the show?

Speaker 5 (09:33):
You know what's interesting?

Speaker 18 (09:34):
Is that as we've been taping the show, because we.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Started what we start twenty twenty, okay.

Speaker 18 (09:39):
Twenty twenty, and then we got like maybe three episodes in,
then COVID happened, and then we took a break, then
we came back, then we had a year off, then
we went through striking all these different things. But during
the duration of all these things, we were experiencing life.
We were having all kinds of life changes and having
conversations in between because not only are we, you know,
friends on the show, we're like sisters in real life,

(10:00):
but also with Tracy and then saying with Tyler, like
that's our brother, that's our family, but each one of
us we're experiencing things that, you know, as Tracy spoke
to us, she's like, what do you think about this?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
And what do you think about that?

Speaker 18 (10:11):
And I know you're on this journey and you know,
do you mind if I implement this? And all of that,
so so much of it is actually mirrored in the
show of what we were experiencing. So it kind of
made it seamless in that way, and you know, you
have a specific story about that, but yeah, just everything,
it just it feels like it was a part of
our actual real lives.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So what's your story with that?

Speaker 17 (10:28):
No, so we were talking about this, but you know
how Quinn goes through her depression journey in season two.
I did a lot of research on depression because it
wasn't something I was personally dealing with at the time,
but I wanted to reflect it in a very honest way.
So went through that, did that research, and then I
had the baby, and then I was diagnosed with severe
postpart and depression. So even when I came on the
show the last time, I was in the depths of that.

(10:50):
Didn't really realize the impact and how that affected me
until I started to kind of climb out of that.
Right going through that journey with Quinn, it gave me
a space and I call it my help journal, like
a reflective journals, to look back on and say, oh,
like this was this was the way in which it
was showing up for Quinn. I didn't realize that postpartum
depression can show up as fatigue, as overwhelmed. We know

(11:13):
about the sadness, we know about all that stuff, but
these are some of the ways the mood swings. Didn't
know that that was a part of those things and
so being able to play that and reflect that in
Quinn gave me almost like a map that I could go, Okay, Grace, like,
this is how you can navigate.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
This did worn't help with her it worse, No, it.

Speaker 17 (11:33):
Helped because it actually gave me an enlightenment, right like, oh,
this is what it could look like. This is what
And so even though I was I was doing it
for Quinn, you know, I felt it on a different
nuanced level when I was actually going through it myself.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Gotcha, how are.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
Y'all juggling the schedules though?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Like now?

Speaker 14 (11:49):
Because it's still is it's like y'all personally flourishing business,
y'all flourishing? How can y'all because I know that the schedules,
I mean, I know y'all said, it's been like two
years since y'all did this, But now y'all all got
individually a lot going on too.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
How can y'all still? Like, how y'all juggling schedules?

Speaker 17 (12:07):
We all start with Shane wan that one because she
just got us single.

Speaker 14 (12:14):
You know, I thrive when I'm busy, I really do.
I like the structure of figuring out my schedule. I've
become more detail oriented when I have a lot of
things to focus on. And I was very intentional about
dropping Feel my Love my new single after the ending
season two with a engagement or proposal, and so I
wanted to like balance that and have that come out

(12:35):
at the same time as the show because I knew
a lot of Harlem.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
Fans would be paying attention, but also just to.

Speaker 14 (12:40):
Like, you know, maybe troll a little bit or make
them question whether and you would actually end up in
this relationship because we don't get a yes or no
at the end.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Of the season took anything. We're trying to have a rollout.

Speaker 11 (12:55):
Making you refer to them as your sisters and your brothers.
Does that happen naturally? Because a lot of times, you know,
people want to keep things business. So that just happened naturally,
that this bond.

Speaker 18 (13:03):
It happened completely organically, like from the beginning, from day one.
If I start with Schnik, well, like we were on
FaceTime a few years prior, and I had never met
her before, and we just spoke and we talked about, like,
you know what, one day we're gonna do a show together,
and we touched and agreed on the camera of the
FaceTime and then literally years later, here we are both
walking in, we're both testing, and we're in the bathroom

(13:23):
and she's like, do you remember me? I was like
from here and she told me and I was like
wait what And then we ended up praying and crying
in the bathroom, and you know, there's that. And then
literally with Tyler, it was just immediate, like just family
and just easy or organic. Same thing with Jerry, it
was like I've known her forever, like you know. And
then with Grace, I called her, I was like, girl,
I'm getting She was like, don't doubt me.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
You getting ready to come in friends? Yeah, like for
years before that.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
So that was exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Is that the normal on sex?

Speaker 18 (13:51):
It isn't always like that. And then you also, you
know when it when it's gonna be for women, you
just never know what you're gonna get. You hope that
that is the experience, you know. And we had talked
about this a few years prior, saying how it would
be great if we got an opportunity to work on
a show together. So when I called her and she
was like tech ever, really I was excited. It was
like you just knew that God was in it. And
I have to say, for me, this has been the

(14:12):
best professional experience that I've had in my entire career.
You know, you know, in a way, it's the end
of a chapter, but it's exciting because the way that
we end the chapter were really really proud of, and
I think the audience is going to get everything that
they want to get. But also I think that we
got what we want to get outside of having a movie.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Additionally, but.

Speaker 18 (14:32):
It's better, I think, to move this way where it's
you know, you didn't stay for too long, but you
gave everyone exactly what they wanted and needed.

Speaker 13 (14:40):
And I want to give Meghan her props too, because
she was a great leader in setting the culture of
our set. And everybody who has come and guest starred,
they've had a really great time. But we learned from
Meghan from Grace like it truly is a fun time.
But also we have decided, we decided early on that

(15:01):
we were going to stick together throughout this situation, so
nobody could say, well, you know, this person was a
difficult one, or this person was this one or this,
because if there was a problem, we all have the problem.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
If we all have it and we're on.

Speaker 13 (15:13):
The zoom calls or whatever, and you won't know where
the source is because we didn't want it to be
like somebody was pinpointed or somebody is.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Promised each other that if.

Speaker 13 (15:23):
Somebody says something to one of us about the other one,
we're not just gonna take it at face value. We
come into the source and saying, hey, did this really happen?
People do like to like separate women and pen women
against each other, and so I think it was really
important for us to And this is my second show.
I mean, I was like six months out of grad
school and I booked this show and the first time

(15:46):
being the lead in something and then to get to
do it like this, which is for me, my manifestation
and to be like, oh wait no, actually for me,
this can be the norm of the experience. And y'all
set the tone for that. So I thank you for
being We.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Have more with the cast of Harlem here making good
Tyler Leplee, Grace, Biased, Janiqua Shandai and Jerry Johnson. When
we come back, it's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, The
Breakfast Club, Good Morning. Everybody is the ej envyes hilarious Charlamagne,
the God.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
We're still kicking in with the cast of Harlem making
good Taler Lepley, Grace Bias, Shaniqua Shandai and Jerry Johnson Charlamagne.

Speaker 11 (16:28):
Because acting allow y'all to just escape when you're dealing
with all of these personal things. Now you can just
go be somebody else with a few hours.

Speaker 18 (16:35):
It allows you to work through things, you know, past trauma,
certain experiences. Rather it's childhood, I mean, whatever it may be.
It allows you to have a place to put it
to good use and for it to be something that
someone else can watch or see and take from it
and go, Okay, that made me feel not alone, or
that made me feel soon or understood. So I think
in a way it's therapeutic. I don't know if it

(16:55):
really allows us to escape. I get to each of these.

Speaker 11 (17:00):
A little dangerous. So do y'all allow y'rselves to lose
yourself in a row? You don't?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
You don't can't go there?

Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can?

Speaker 13 (17:05):
Because that's I think the if we think about like
some of our greates that have lost themselves and then
we lost them. I was gonna say that, Yeah, it's
like when you go there, if you don't know how
to unzip that character and step out in order to
go home.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
And not have that energy in your home, it gets crazy.

Speaker 13 (17:26):
But also the body doesn't know the difference sometimes, So
when you go and when you're going deep into a
character and you're not doing those things where you are
separating when you get home, your body don't know the difference.
So if my character is going crazy, if I'm playing
the Joker and I'm really in there and I'm taking
the Joker home with me, my body don't know that

(17:47):
I'm not the Joker if I believe it enough.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
And so sometimes you.

Speaker 13 (17:53):
Know, it's good to be like, all right, I'm gonna
give a cap on this, Like if I really got
to go there, I'm gonna go there for the six
months I gotta go there. But I'm already planning all
the things I need to plan so that day I'm done,
it's already set up.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
For me to release this.

Speaker 13 (18:09):
Whether I'm going to the ocean, whether I'm wherever I am,
whether all of my friends come to my house to
remind me of who I am, I have to have
something that reality sets me back to who I am,
or it's not gonna be it's gonna be on my
spirit and it's not gonna.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Be good for me.

Speaker 14 (18:24):
Then, speaking of then Jerry, where's Tie's head at after
she found out she smashed the mother and.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Jump back into being Yes, that's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 13 (18:43):
You know, to find out something like that is like,
how do you even deal with that?

Speaker 5 (18:48):
And I think Tie decides because what I really want.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Open Jerry is poly.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
But she's loved to be right, Jason, even though.

Speaker 13 (19:03):
Jerry is Polly, I wouldn't describe Tie as Polly.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I think Ty was.

Speaker 13 (19:08):
Really wanting something, but also probably in that moment being
greedy because she was wanting something but having something else.
And I think sometimes if my intention is commitment, then
I have to go towards what that intention is.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
And if it's commitment towards one person and.

Speaker 13 (19:25):
I'm letting my energy fly, of course I might end
up with a daughter.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I knew what was going on, and I was.

Speaker 11 (19:33):
Like, how is motherhood changed you?

Speaker 17 (19:38):
I think what I did not expect was that I
was fully prepared to be like, I'm ready to learn
everything I can about motherhood and my child. I did
not anticipate that I was going to also go on
a journey to learn about myself, and so I had
to face things about myself in order to ensure his
well being. Right, So I had to go back to

(19:58):
my own childhood, go back to the things that you know,
that I didn't realize that I was like holding on to,
or dealing with or like simple things like you know,
like being being a recovering people pleaser. I can't do
that with my child. I will be so depleted. I
will not show up as the mother that I need
to be. So how do I then organize in my mind?

(20:19):
Like how do I prioritize myself for real?

Speaker 5 (20:20):
For real?

Speaker 17 (20:21):
You know, so like things like that that I didn't
expect that are really changing my life?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Are these moments bittersweet?

Speaker 11 (20:29):
Knowing that you know he's gonna be the last time
y'all probably do interviews together and things of that nature.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
They said, they talk about movie, they manifest the movie.
So the last time we need a petition and.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
This y'all could do something else, Yeah, because y'all are
so grounded, even as just outside the cass just hearing
y'all speak, like, you know, like even from the last
interview that we had with you, like so much growth,
like not saying that you you know last time, right, No,

(21:03):
not that, but yeah, it's just I don't know, it's
just it's zinful, it's tranquility. It's a whole bunch of
y'all are very grounded as a cast. So I appreciate
it anything I was not even don't have to be
all or just you know, y'all can write your own movie.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I can directly, we can just get it on here,
like we really appreciate enough and even.

Speaker 7 (21:27):
Just like you know, to all of us before, you know,
as we're saying goodbye, I feel like one of the
biggest uh, you know, reasons, it's not a sad goodbye.
It's like for a multitude of things like, hey, we
have a you know, we have a great beginning middle
and now you know, we knew are and we knew
who were landing at so like that's a beautiful thing.
But then on the flip side off of the script,
you know, because of the way we were able to
come together as family, like I feel like this is

(21:47):
a you know, a lot of times when we say
goodbye to people, it's like a sad goodbye, you know
what I'm saying. But it's like, I really feel like
this is a you know, this is the opposite, is
almost like a happy goodbye.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
When we say goodbye, it's almost like we're raising the
trophy up, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
when I yes on a good note. So when I
think back about these times, it's not really gonna be
a sad thing.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
We're able to experience together, share it with the world,
and uh close the book at the right time.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Or shaniko, you're telling we not leaving like that. We're
leaving with your singles. So we don't play your.

Speaker 11 (22:14):
Record.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
We don't play your record, play your record, mis grace.
I felt the God in you this morning. We're gonna
say a prayer before we get up out of here,
to say.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
God good, God is great. Thank you for the food
we eat, dinner on the table.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 17 (22:35):
Let's do Thank you, dearly father, thank you so much
for this time together.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Lord.

Speaker 17 (22:38):
We asked that you bless the breakfast club. Lord, we
asked that you blessed our minds or hearts or words.
Your father, thank you for a form like this, or
that we're able to galvanize as one that we're able
to come together in truth and honesty and love and
just celebrate amazing black work. Lord, we are so grateful
of this moment, grateful for this time. To your Father,
we ask that you go before us, that you make

(22:58):
the crooked pass straight. We so you continue to uplift
us in your spiritual Lord, let us always stay in
your purpose and your will. Lord, We thank you for
your love. We thank you for your blessing. In Jesus name,
we praise Amen.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Amen, It's the breakfast Club. Good morning, wake up, you're
like to enter the breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Warning, everybody's tej Envy, just Hilarius, Charlamagne the God.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
We are the breakfast club.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Now if you're just joining us, we're talking about the
list of Trump executive orders that affected people, from DEI
to birthright citizenship to ice coming and taking people.

Speaker 11 (23:37):
Yeah, has the importations did this man doing the DEI?
You know, the potential federal hiring freeze, I mean tariffs,
you know, and so you know, we're just opening up
the phone lines to see how things have impacted people.
You know, Jess is already concerned about the price of
weakes potentially.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Excuse me there, you know, I'm not no, I'm not, okay.

Speaker 14 (23:57):
It affects my mother and and other people who have
been in childcare administration. My mom has been taking care
of kids, and she has a child free school and
has had one for thirty years coming up. And a
lot of her money comes from the federal government, federal government.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
You know, like the food program.

Speaker 14 (24:17):
She get checked to feed the kids, you know, and
then all of her parents they are using vouchers or
scholarship of some sort, you know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (24:26):
So no potential federal hiring freez could shut.

Speaker 14 (24:28):
Her absolutely, absolutely, and it will. People are already starting
to be affected by it, you know.

Speaker 11 (24:34):
So, and you see the dismantling of DEI program. You
see people losing jobs, you know, when you got these
mass deportations, Like I know people who you know, jobs
have got ran up in, you know what I mean,
Their parents' jobs have gotten ran up in.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
You know.

Speaker 11 (24:46):
I know family members, I know families who literally have
had to leave because you know, one person in the
household was undocumented and now they got to go, and
the kids gotta go.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
It's real out here, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, you know, growing up in New York of course
you're surrounded by immigrants, right, You're surrounded by people that
are here.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
This got crazy. You're surrounded like you're not wanting the
person surrounding. I'm not.

Speaker 10 (25:10):
I actually was born here and my parents were too.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
But you're surrounded by immigrants that you know that the
kids were born here, but their parents not. And now
many of my friends and the people that I know,
they're fearful that their parents could be you know, taken back,
and parents could be you know, taken by ice because
there's no rules, there's no regulations. They just know that
ice is on the street grabbing imgrants. So people are nervous.
People are scared.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Are you an ankle baby?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
My parents were born here, sir, My grandparents were born here,
and I was born here, sir.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Prove it.

Speaker 14 (25:37):
Let me when ice come and snatch you up, that's
gonna be crazy. I'm scared to take my daughter outside
to this day. I'm like Jesus, yes, for really. They
might think I'm harvarding one of them. Yeah he is,
but Molly look like nah, see she more in question
than her father. Dude would be like, oh, where you

(25:58):
get that baby from? And if I just got about myself,
I look like a nanny.

Speaker 12 (26:02):
Not.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
I don't know. It's crazy for the.

Speaker 11 (26:07):
People who don't know. Your baby daddy is Mexican.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yes, yes, half Mexican, yes, half Mexican.

Speaker 14 (26:12):
His mom straight, straight up Mexican's father Blake So and
my daughter she looks straight Mexican, Like, oh my god.

Speaker 11 (26:19):
I think you should stop saying that you might get
a knock for part. Hello, let's go, might get it.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Not just crazy, I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Hello, who's this?

Speaker 12 (26:31):
This is doctor Allen, doctor from I'm from some five,
but I'm in Indianapolis.

Speaker 11 (26:38):
Now, okay, how have Trump's executive boaters impacted you as far?

Speaker 12 (26:42):
Absolutely so. I am a director for a Diversity and
Culching Inclusion for Engineering Research Center, so through the National
Science Foundation, they pretty much stopped all of me my
ability to spend money. I built programs like easy programs
for high school students. They told me I could not
take no more students to Watchington DC for that we
had a upcoming the conference for them to present their research.

(27:05):
I have about three hundred thousand dollars in funding that
I can no longer touch because our work in DEI.
They told me, literally, I couldn't you spend no money
because my proposal said I was working with marginalized students,
and that is discrimination by another name. When you're saying
that I can't work with students because they're from marginalized backgrounds.

(27:26):
But if it was a white student, I can go
ahead and consine it with my work. This discrimination by
another names. And so I have about I have another
about five million dollars in additional funding that I have
that I have sent in there for review that I
can't they propamize, just going to throw out now, and
these are this is money that's going to our students,
our low income students, underrepresented students, to make sure that

(27:47):
we get skilled and help our students continu grow, go
to college, get scholarships. And we can no longer touch
that money. They are literally trying to prevent us from
growing our communities at being to do the things that
we need to do, all because they don't want us
to be as successful as we could be. And it
is very sick in it.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
How do we combat that? How do we combat it?

Speaker 11 (28:10):
How do we combat it?

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Can we?

Speaker 16 (28:11):
Well?

Speaker 12 (28:12):
A few things that we have to do is we
have to put pressure on our elective officials. The Democrats
have to be able to stop get off their fingers
and it's actual.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Need to do something.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
This should not be a process for them to be
able to discriminate by another NAT. There should be some
type of lawsuits that are letting them say, hey, you
all have not does not have not developed any criteria
for what is considered THEI you all are just looking
for anything that says black or brown, underrepresented, marginalized, low income,
and that is discriminating. There needs to be some folks

(28:41):
that are doing something in the legal arena. They need
to be folks are doing something in the political arena.
And we also need to start thinking about how do
we make sure that we're not hand from the next
time one of these ola guards if somebody comes in
and want to take over power like this. We need
to be able to make sure that we're self sufficient,
sustainable and figure our way from.

Speaker 11 (28:59):
Which we can do then I totally agree.

Speaker 7 (29:01):
Man.

Speaker 11 (29:01):
You know the hell part about it is there are
you know, guardrails and tools that democrats can use. But
you know, we just keep getting all these statements about
norms and faith and institutions brought them. Institutions are done, okay,
These people are playing by a different set of rules.
They need to figure it out.

Speaker 10 (29:18):
It's got another caller.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hello, who's this YO? Good morning. They deported them just
that fast. They're driving.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Hello.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
How the money.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
Are talking about Trump's executive orders? How has it affected
you at all?

Speaker 6 (29:41):
I mean, honestly, let's be well, LA women numbers jun't
America voted for Trump. I don't understand now why everybody
so up war about what's going on when they were
killing you are multiple times over and over the body administration.

(30:01):
Let us know about twenty twenty and nobody doesn't care.
I don't know why is everybody bought an updill.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Downe, ma'am.

Speaker 11 (30:08):
Ma'amm told ma'am, you're absolutely right, but what that got
to do with his executive void is impacting people.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
It was expected, it was what's coming. Yes, there's nothing
about it if you voted him in office.

Speaker 11 (30:21):
But but have they impacted you? That's the question.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
You're at this point. I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna
be honest with you. Players, don't do it. Tom ninety one,
Tom twenty three, Tom one twenty one, His prince and
and and she put.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
All right, thank you, mama, what is she saying to ourselves?
That's what she said, Yeah, y'all voted for him, And
she didn't answer the question. She basically just said that
y'all didn't.

Speaker 14 (30:50):
Yes, she always somewhere to understand.

Speaker 11 (30:55):
Oh look, and I understand what she's saying. But that's
not the question we're asking. The question we're asking is
how has his executive orders impacted people? Because, you know what,
I would like to start hearing his solutions, you know,
like I would like to start hearing you know, how
we can combat some of these things.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
But how can we? Right because he's the president. He
put these orders into play. This is his house right now, right,
But so how do we how do we stop that?
How do we defend it? How do we combat that?

Speaker 14 (31:20):
How is there anyway like something can happen locally? Like
because even with my mom saying, you know, she with
my mom being affected, you know, and then the caller
who just called up and said, like they're gonna cut
her child care benefit. She's a full time working mom, Like,
is there something we can do, like the mayors, the governors, like,
you know, I know he signed these orders, but it's
no way like can we tackle it locally.

Speaker 11 (31:40):
There's tools and guardrails that these people have at their
disposable disposal to try to slow down some of this stuff.
But you know, they got to have the strength to
use them. You know, the Democrats are a party of cowards.
They're leaderless right now, right now, you know what I mean,
But they are they are guardrails in place. Well, we
gotta This is gonna be a never ending conversation, by

(32:02):
the way, y'all do know that, right, yeah, But.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
It just feels weird because when you look at Biden
and him being in office in the last four years
and what he's done, and then you look at Trump
being so aggressive and doing everything that he wanted to
do with and not apologizing for it and just doing
it basically saying, I told y'all what I was gonna
do if you don't like a middle finger, And then
you look at the last four years and look at
Biden was just so nice and just trying to be
the nice guy. It just really makes you upset, you know, yeah,

(32:25):
for sure. All right, well, this is their moral.

Speaker 11 (32:27):
To the story at all, the moral to the story.
This is gonna be another ending conversation. But that's what
the Breakfast Club is here for The Breakfast Club is
here to have those conversations, okay, and we'll bring in
people way smarter than us to tell us what these
guardrails are and what these tools are, what these tools
are that they can use to try to slow some
of this stuff there.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
All right, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Morning.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Everybody is DJ Envy.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Jess Hilarious, Charlamage the day. We are the Breakfast Club.
Layla ros is here with us this morning. And we
got some special guests in the building. We have Rick Johnson,
the President of the NUBA ACP, welcome here. We have
Scott Mills, CEO of b E T.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Good morning, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
And we have a friend to the room, cousin to
the room, Chloe Balley. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
How you feeling. How's everybody fantastic?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
All right, So we're talking about the n DOUBLE ACP
Image Awards Live, which goes down February twenty second, and
you guys have released some of the nominations and you're
about to tell us who's going to be the host.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Actually we're not yet disclosing, Okay, we assume it is Chloe.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
You don't got to run the press here you go.

Speaker 15 (33:32):
It's hard to be both a nominee and the host, So.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
That is correct the first for everything.

Speaker 11 (33:38):
Why are you with them?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Chloe? Why are you with them? People? We're family?

Speaker 19 (33:43):
Are definitely family, you know growing up as well, Sis
and I we would go and sing a lot of
times at you know, the events in Florida several times
and things like that, and it was just really special
to be a part of this today with praise this
the movie I did with Will Packer winning last year.
And you know, it was a surprise to me today
as we were announcing some of the nominations, I got another.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
That prior to oh God is good, grateful, I think.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
The first time you all joined us at ACP like
eleven twelve.

Speaker 20 (34:14):
Yeah, well, I think it's important for you to be
here with them, especially putting your voice on it, because
I think there's always a conversation abound, like the award
shows that we have and whether people in what level
of celebrity supported or not. So I think you being
here and you know, being kind of like a face
of it helps that. Are you at all like working
with the NAACP in these Image Awards, are you at
all getting out there for other award shows and just

(34:35):
kind of being a champion of that, like in calling
your friends and being like, hey, y'all need to make
sure y'all show up? Like what celebrities are you? Like, Hey,
make sure you show up, particularly Beyonce.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Before her and yes, actually you know we getting there.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (34:48):
I think this one is really especially important because it
is honoring us in all of our blackness. And sometimes
it's hard in this world and society today to not
feel valued or feel worthy enough. But definitely in this
space at the Image Awards, you know, we are celebrating
one another for not only our skin tone, but also

(35:08):
the incredible art that we put into the world.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
And how do we bring award shows back to where
it used to be? Right?

Speaker 10 (35:14):
I remember as a kid, money, money, money up.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
As a kid, that's what we look.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
We expired to watch, we expired to We wanted to
see the NAACP Awards, we wanted to see the BT Awards,
and some of our biggest moments culturally came from those events,
Soul Train as well.

Speaker 10 (35:30):
How do we get back to that? Now you say
money what does that money mean.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
I mean, the large marketing houses actually put an instance
on black culture in a way which is not exploited
for their product line, but their supportive for the culture's sake.
What we have seen over time is a devaluing of
shows like Soul Trainers Love Soul Trained, but the escalation
of resources for the Grammys or the Oscars or the Emmys.

(35:57):
While their viewership has been going down, they still invest
in it. But then they say, your viewership is down, Yeah,
you don't invest. But if you invest, people want to
see black entertainment. People want to appreciate the culture. It
is not just in the US, it's globally.

Speaker 11 (36:12):
I agree with that, but you know, there are some
black people who think white ice is cold.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
There absolutely are.

Speaker 15 (36:17):
I mean, I think one of the things that was
interesting post you know, that very brief moment of racial
renaissance we had in this country post murder of George Floyd.
About three months right right that moment, the post that
when we were preparing to do the Image Awards with
the NAACP, I would get these calls from journalists and
they'd say, is.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
There still a need for the Image Awards? Haven't aren't
we beyond that.

Speaker 11 (36:38):
And I said, so white, right, right?

Speaker 15 (36:40):
And I said, you know, first of all, I think
that suggestion means you really don't understand why the Image
Awards exist. It is not it doesn't exist because we
were excluded from other places. First and foremost, it is
about that our community values being recognized and celebrated by
our community, and that has absolute value. But the second
thing is what we understand about this country is it's

(37:02):
terribly fickle. Right, so today, oh yes, we're wonderfully popular
and you want to include us in all of your
award shows, but you know this is not going to
sustain And what the NAACP and the partnership with BET,
we have a consistent commitment to celebrating excellence in our community.
And that's really what our partnership for the Image Awards
is all about.

Speaker 20 (37:21):
Question for you guys, because even in planning this show, right,
so BT works with the NAACP to have the awards.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
The programmer on the network.

Speaker 20 (37:28):
People always give you, guys a lot of flak for
what's on the network and what's not, saying that you
need better shows or whatever the case may be. But
the awards show, the Image Awards are it's always a
good show. In my opinion, how much do you get
tired of the conversation of BT doesn't have good stuff
to watch, that's why we don't watch it.

Speaker 15 (37:42):
Well, it's fascinating. I think they're always going to be
people who are critical, that's the reality. The situation is
really fun. This morning, before coming over, I listened to
your best of clip that you guys have online and
one of your featured guests was Miss Pat Right, and
it was through Lee Daniels reaching out to be Et
to say, I have this series that only be Et

(38:03):
can create. The only platform in the world that can
actually put this series out there is be Et. It
scares everyone else off. It's an important message. So we
looked at it. We love Lee Daniels. We greenlit the
series right, and it actually secured be ET's first Primetime
Emmy nomination because it was a really breakthrough show and
now everybody knows who Miss Pat is and she's going on.
We're actually in the fifth season of that show. And

(38:24):
whether it's that or the nominations that we receive for
Dr from Detroit Wright's Fantastic show.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Dr R.

Speaker 15 (38:31):
Kilpatrick is an amazing talent and the show is great
fun and the amazing work we do with Tyler Perry.
The reality is we have the biggest investment in black
focused content than any platform in the country, and even
with that, you're never going to be able to satisfy
every single audience. And so we recognize that they're going

(38:51):
to be things that people love, They're going to be
things that people wish for, They're going to be things
that you know, people keep on saying, bring back music
video shows. Music video shows don't work on linear television.
That's just the reality. But so what we focus on
is what are the things that actually our audiences are
really consuming and enjoying. So Tyler Perry's Sisters, we're going
into the eighth season. It is the single most watched

(39:12):
show among black people on all of television, not all
of cable, all of television in fact, right so more
than anything on broadcast television. So people say, oh, you know,
there be some people complain about BET, but the fact
that we have the single most watched show in black
households so that is a long way of saying, we
are always striving to be more inclusive. So we created

(39:35):
our streaming platform, b ET Plus to be able to
create even more content, speak to diverse audiences. We think
are tent poles like the NAACP Image Awards, like the
BET Awards, which this where year is going to celebrate
its twenty fifth anniversary. If you can believe that, we
think our tent poles are those to their name. They
are the things that allow us to bring a huge

(39:57):
cross section of the community together to and celebrate what's
really important to us as a community. One of the
things this year, over three million folks tuned in sorry
as over three million folks moved in, sorry, tuned in
to the BET Awards in twenty twenty four. And if
you think about that, it means it's the single largest
gathering of Black people for a black event in the country.

(40:21):
Rank there's nothing else that three million Black folks show
up for that is a specifically black event. And so
you still have this opportunity to catalyze, mobilize, and engage
our community, and you just have to be very thoughtful
and have great partners like the NAACP.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
All Right, we have more with Chloe Bailey, the President
of the NAACP, Derek Johnson, and the President in CEO
of B E. T.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Scott Mills, don't moves to Breakfast Club, Good.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Morning Warning, everybody is DJ nv Jess hilarious, Charlamagne, the
gud we ought to Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Laura le Rossa is in on this interview as well.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
We're kicking in with Chloe Bailey, the President of the NAACP,
Derek Johnson, and the President in CEO of b E T.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Scott Mills.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
THEACP Image Awards will air on February twenty second.

Speaker 10 (41:03):
Now, Charlamage, what does.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
BT mean to your generation, Coloy, because you're twenty six.

Speaker 19 (41:08):
Yes, I think you know for me growing up.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
You know, I'm a music lover.

Speaker 19 (41:13):
I grew up loving one on six in Park, Like
I think I could speak for everyone in my generation.

Speaker 11 (41:18):
You know.

Speaker 19 (41:18):
I know certain things go into a lot, but that
was like the show for me to be inspired, to
get excited, Like that was it like I'd run home
from school and That's what I'd put on. So I
was used to seeing people who look like me, who
were succeeding in a field that I wanted to succeed
in one day. So be ET has always had a
special place in my heart, especially think of all the

(41:41):
groundbreaking performances like you know when Beyonce had her incredible
performance on there. Yeah, you know, I'm so grateful that
I got to be on that stage two three times.
One of my favorite performances that I did on there
was on BET. It was like this surprise treatment matchup.
So it's like, I feel like b ET gives a
platform for all black artists, whether they are at the

(42:01):
top of their game or whether they're rising. And I
think it's really special to have that support.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
So when you hit a Scott, what do you think?
So first, so I love it.

Speaker 15 (42:09):
And one of the things that we focus on is
we understand people love one O six in Park, right,
and so the fact that it's it doesn't work as
a linear television show doesn't mean one O six and
Park is over because we can bring one O six
and Park back as a podcast, we can bring one
O six and Park back as a digital experience, and
we can just we we are evolving what one oh
six and Park will look like in twenty twenty five

(42:30):
because it does have that very important role.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I've heard. I've heard that you guys are trying to
figure out a show like that.

Speaker 15 (42:36):
Yes, and we've got We've got a number of really
exciting executions because it's also we're approaching the twenty fifth
anniversary of one oh six and Park as well, So we.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Be a little bit ada free twenty five.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Years, you know, we we will, we will. You'll still be.

Speaker 15 (42:48):
Some things that you guys will be really excited about,
and we look forward to coming back and talk to
you about one oh six and Part Free.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, noted so.

Speaker 15 (42:57):
But I think the other thing that Chloe shared that
is so important is we at BET exist to be
in service of our community and our culture. That's what
we exist for. And we understand that there's a broad
ecosystem of different institutions and individuals that make up our
community and our culture, and we are part of that
broader landscape and that broader ecosystem, and we play a supporting,

(43:19):
complementary role to our community and our ecosystem. And whether
that's celebrating black excellence, whether that's mobilizing our community around
important events, whether that's coming to the aid of our
community post in the face of COVID.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
But to Chloe's very specific.

Speaker 15 (43:33):
Point, one of the things that our team loves is
to be a platform that both celebrates our most successful
artists who are absolutely at the pinnacle of their careers
and simultaneously to identify and support those emerging artists to
give them the platform because we were so many artists
very first time to be on television, right, so many

(43:54):
artists very first time to perform, the number of managers
and label executive to come up and say, you know,
we're so appreciative to be back at the Beach Awards
because this is where our talent x y Z got
their very first break. That really resonates with our team.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Can you tell us some of the performers that you
guys have planned for the NAACP Awards.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
We will be revealing performers as we get closer. We're
going to we're doing the rollout now and it's very
intentional because we're trying to build the audience. The platforms
by which people consume information is shifting every month. You know,
as you know we grew up listened to Tom Jordan
the morning show, Breakfast Club took it over. Well, quite frankly,
that's going to be a podcast to take over Breakfast Club,

(44:34):
And so we're one hundred and six.

Speaker 11 (44:37):
What's Happening Club did not take over Tom Joyner. Tom
Joyner retired on his own accord.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
No No, No, No. Tom Joyner was urban adult contemporary.

Speaker 11 (44:51):
He came to the twenty five to fifty four of them,
or we came around eighteen to twenty four. And The
Breakfast Club is a podcast, not just the podcast with
the number one Black podcast in the world.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
If you do everything perfect, but somebody gonna do it
better later, it is that gonna be next month they
come up?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Or is it gonna be next year? You're doing everything?
Why do we do that as black people? I don't know.
You started as something to replace something? Why all these
things co exist? Why co exists?

Speaker 4 (45:19):
But I'm responding to the tone, and the tone is
we have legacy organizations, We have media companies that have
have been a flag port of our community. We have
a show we're on now where the podcast has been excellent.
We had other shows that Sunset. It is a part
of the ecosystem of who we are as a community.

Speaker 11 (45:37):
And we should meet people where they are who replaced there.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
That's a good question. Are they ready?

Speaker 11 (45:44):
That's what I mean when I say that, like, why
do we do that as a as a people? Like oh,
just replace that? Like no, everything can co existence?

Speaker 4 (45:50):
You and I we we absolutely agree, but the tone
set with something differently right.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
So if she is.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Twenty six and she can appreciate one O six in park,
there's someone who in ACP.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
But if an ACP is not the.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Right vehicle or voice for them, I support them choosing
the right vehicle voice because in a social justice movement,
it's not a competition. It's an opportunity for our voices
to be heard. In entertainment community, it's not a competition.
It's an opportunity for our voices, our culture to be
to be experienced. And that's how we should be approaching
all of this. And so where BT right now is
in an industry that's shrinking overall. What Scott is doing

(46:26):
is trying to figure out, Okay, how do we continue
to advance our culture and our voice. We're INACP. We
are in a political dynamic that has shifts. It is
our job, being the large organizations in forty seven states,
to continue to evolve with that. We're not going anywhere.
I don't want the Breakfast Club to go anywhere. BT
shouldn't go anywhere. We should all be leaning to our culture,
our opportunity, and our voice.

Speaker 11 (46:47):
Well, I agree these institutions shouldn't go anywhere, but I
do think they do have to evolve, Like I doubt,
as I doubt I'll always be here as a host,
I doubt we'll always be here as a host. Right,
people like law and the Justice will take over and everything.
But when it to the NAACP or any of these
institutions whose job is to tell our own stories.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Us, it's our job, right, and that's why we took over.
We saw the partnership with BTV on Park Paramount. We
have a joint venture with Para my TV. We will
have a soap operate air next month on the twenty
second on CBS's day Time. We're working, We're about to
launch our podcast. Is we have to evolve that our revenue,
the streams have to evolve.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
How we approach this. Organizations should not be driven by personality.
It should be driven by mission and strategy. So we
all have to evolve.

Speaker 10 (47:31):
Let me ask you a question. Sports doesn't work well on BT.

Speaker 15 (47:34):
Sports sports works well on linear television. The challenges sports
rights have gotten insanely expensive.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Because I look at all these HBCU right a DJ,
the Howard Hampton games on CBS the other day and
I'm watching a lot of these college games on TV,
and I always thought to myself, with all of HBCUs
and how it's been a Spurgs or HBCUs, everybody supporting HBCUs.
It was just always weird to me why b ET
didn't put their arm around and be like, I need
all those games so people actually come there.

Speaker 15 (48:00):
It's a great question. And in fact, when BEET started,
b ET used to air HBCU games. I'm told that
there's footage of Bob Johnson running along the sidelines doing
live commentary HBCU games, So I'm trying to look for it.
But the reality is, because of the evolution of college
football and because of the proliferation of access to sports
across all these platforms, the demand, the viewership interest in

(48:22):
HBCU sports right now isn't high enough to kind of
support the investment. Having said that, the entry point that
we think is really exciting, that we're really focused on
is you now have a bunch of brothers who went
off and played in the NFL. Have said we want
to remedy this dynamic where top black athletes feel like
they have to go to other schools to be competitive.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
We want to remedy that dynamic.

Speaker 15 (48:46):
Right, so you saw you know, you saw the recent
announcements about the brothers, right right, Okay, there you go,
and so now university, right there you go.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
So and that.

Speaker 15 (48:56):
So now the opportunity is we take our footprint, our platform,
our relationships, and then we bring them to these luminaries.
We're going back to these HBCUs and building those teams,
and then we focus on the stories and the people
and the journey and we get a broader community to
be excited about this and we actually use it to
build interest in HBCU football. And that we think is

(49:19):
the way to actually elevate interest in HBCU football, which
will then allow us to bring more games to the network.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
All Right, we have more with Chloe Bailey, the President
of the NAACP, Derek Johnson, and.

Speaker 10 (49:29):
The president of the CEO or B E. T. Scott Mills.
When we come back is the Breakfast Club, Good Morning,
owning Everybody's eej n V.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Jess Hilarius Charlomagne, the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
Laurna Rosa is in on this interview as well. Chloe
Bailey is here, the president of the NAACP and the
president and the CEO of b E T is joining
us this morning.

Speaker 10 (49:48):
Lauren.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Now, Chloe, I gotta ask you and bringing a date
to the NAACP Awards, my god mom and my manager. Okay,
so we we we'll see them. Were Burner boy, You'll
have to ask you.

Speaker 20 (50:00):
You're here, he's not Oh oh, Berna's not nominated.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Now he's not nominated, but you look at you sheet.
He not on air.

Speaker 20 (50:11):
Chloe's on air. But I'm speaking of support. And you
know we were seeing you out with him in Nigeria.
So is that a new thing?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
Or Nigeria was so beautiful? What about the night life?
We saw you in the club with Berna?

Speaker 19 (50:23):
Yes, the night life, it was so many lights, so many,
so many cameras.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
I know you like everything with you when you was gonna.
I mean, now, is burna boy? We want to know?
Is that your boo? Is this the thing y'all together?

Speaker 8 (50:40):
Do?

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Y'all go together?

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Real bad?

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Y'all just having fun? What is it?

Speaker 19 (50:43):
Well, I'm a grown woman, so you know I had
a great time in Nigeria.

Speaker 5 (50:49):
I really did.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
So.

Speaker 20 (50:51):
I guess I'm not gonna get an answer on if
you cared about the when you left.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
There was the video.

Speaker 20 (50:56):
People were like, oh my god, the Chloe time is over.
Now he's out with this random other girl. I didn't
see that burna boy. Yeah he was out of random,
but it's because we all were so heavily together.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
We were like, oh, shoot, we don't see her do
this much. And then yeah, he's a grown man. It's like,
I'm a grown woman.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I could have imagine dating at twenty something and being
put on the air.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
By being so being super fanous.

Speaker 20 (51:26):
Somebody video expecting the minute that you see her on
that carpet, they're going to be looking like because anybody,
anybody that she's with is always a thing.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
Anybody she's with, like going.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
To Bible study. I mean, you.

Speaker 20 (51:44):
Tell the girl you had told me you was in
there studying the Bible, I would have been like, you
know what, God is good, okay all the.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Time, my girl, you can study anytime, But well.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Can I have the questions that I'd be wanting to know?

Speaker 21 (52:03):
Because you know, he's got my moready got on me
before I know her.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
She don't you know that? But no, honestly, I don't mind.

Speaker 19 (52:14):
I mean, I hate to say this, but it's my life.
I mean, it's what I sign up for, so I
can only expect it. It's just about how I handle it. Yeah,
handle myself. So I don't think it should ever be
pissiness towards the people who ask me.

Speaker 20 (52:32):
And I think, as a woman watching you navigate it,
I'm always interested in how you deal with that because,
for instance, you hear about the na A c P
Image Awards, but it's like, we want to know that,
so we have to ask. And being a person who's
not learning how to be in the light of everything,
I'm like, how how do you deal very?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
I know you don't you like the phone is dry?

Speaker 13 (53:03):
Dry pack one thing I would already emendated, the very dry.

Speaker 20 (53:08):
I am just I am a wife. All I do
is say home, I just want to cook. You got
I'm domesticated.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
This radio has made me be quiet. Okay, you get
on here ready for that?

Speaker 19 (53:22):
So it's preparing you for that person.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (53:26):
Back to the n Spicy Chicken. Now, how are these
nominees shows?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
And how do you guys choose the nominees and how
do you guys go to who's winning?

Speaker 11 (53:35):
And how do y'all expand the categories?

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Every year?

Speaker 11 (53:36):
Because you know, things change, right, you got social media
personality here now podcast the category.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
So start with the last question.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
We recognized that that the industry has changing, so we
try to keep up and we add categories digital content,
categories fashion design.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
There's a panel of close to five hundred people a
half industry have non industry that's been selected across the
country and those are the individuals that review the materials
and they nominate. Oftentimes I don't even know what's being
nominateduntil I finally get it. And then once nominated, some
of the categories are voted on by the public, and
so it's by popular vote in some areas and then

(54:15):
in the other areas is by those who are critics
in the space to ensure fairness in the outcome.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
So there is a mix that we try to balance
those two things out got you.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I also I want to ask about comedy as well.
You see Netflix as heavy into comedy. You see a
lot of giving comedy deals to them to every comedian.
As Beet ever wanted to jump back into that space
because Beet was one of the huge originators, especially of
black comedy.

Speaker 15 (54:37):
I tracked with comicview, did Dean Cole puts you up
to this question because he's been beating me up about.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
This no, but he's been up here recently, but now
he has yes.

Speaker 15 (54:43):
So the reality is we're always looking for the way
back into places right. And we did a quick partnership
with Kevin Hart and Heartbeat where we did a test
run of bringing back Comicview. And part of the thing
is that really un understanding how our community wants to
consume content right, and also understanding some people will use

(55:07):
certain content as a loss leader for other things. And
I'm not saying who would be using as a loss leader,
but there are other platforms they're paying using content as
a lost leader for other things. So we're week working
with Dion right now to do a really fun thing
in stand up comedy. He'll be thrilled that you put
me on the spot and ask the question. But we
think comedy clearly works, right. We see it working with
the Miss Pat show. The series we have with Dion

(55:29):
Average Joe is a thriller that has a comedic line
through it. We really see that our audience loves comedy.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Miss Pat.

Speaker 15 (55:36):
In addition to her Miss Patch show, we do Miss
Pat Settles It, which is her doing a crazy court show,
and so our audience is loving it. We think in
twenty twenty five, given the way the world has changed,
people need to laugh even more and so they'll be
an even greater demand for comedy. So we're leaning into
it in.

Speaker 11 (55:51):
A big way. Have there been conversations, Derek about changing
the name of the NAACP since some people think colored
people is a slur?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
No, as we said around and said, we got all
the colors are on the sable, don't we?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, No, we have not.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
I mean we get caught up in semantics. We lose
focused and it's no need to go to the semantics.
We are The organization has been around one hundred and
sixteen years. That's significant when you talk about this concept
of a of a surplus mindset that what we can
do we can't stick together, we can work together, we
can prosper together. Oftentimes we say what black folks won't do,

(56:25):
what we can do, we haven't done. We got to
get away from that and not get caught up in semantics.
At the end of the day, are we being effective
with our mission? But if democracy work for all and
ensuring opportunity for our community, that's our focus. The semantics
go out the door. Yeah, I think and I think
it was.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Was it last year? It was?

Speaker 11 (56:42):
It was one of the presidents.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
I forgot from which chapter in the LACP.

Speaker 11 (56:46):
They were upset because somebody used the word colored people somewhere.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
I don't see if you wonder every time I run
across some he asked the questions because he's been saying,
y'all need to change the name.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
He's been saying that since like nineteen eighty two. What
does he see about the name? That shut what.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
I'm just asking.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Right, right, end of the day.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
The Immature Wars is the crown jewel of the shows
for America.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
It gives us an opportunity for all of us to
come together and appreciate the culture and breathing.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
And we do that imagenerationally across all of all of
the platforms.

Speaker 11 (57:25):
That's right, And you can the voting is now open
to the public at n w A c P Image
Awards dot it.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
That's right.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
We appreciate you guys for joining us this morning.

Speaker 11 (57:33):
Yes, to stop dragging Layer around for no reason. She's busy,
she got things he could be doing.

Speaker 20 (57:36):
She was okay, okay, yes, okay, that's right, Yes, yes,
if you are, If you were now, says the host.
I think it would make so much sense because you're
out here outside.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
We don't know what you're.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Planning pressure it. They might have another host. You just
say you want to host too.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
If I don't host, I can sing a little song.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Listen, we've been rolling. We announce still host. Everybody gonna say, oh,
that is a great choice, good decision. The host want
to come on with Scott. They gonna talk about why
that person is the host, and you're gonna say, this
is the best thing that could have had happened.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Absolutely, collaboration be done. Chloe.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
I know that's right, O.

Speaker 10 (58:14):
Chloe and Burn the boy hosting the.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
That'd be a great collaboration.

Speaker 11 (58:20):
And you won't can take credit for me.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
He brought that back up.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I did all right, Chloe d Derreck Johnson, Scott Mills,
We appreciate you for joining us. Check out the NAACP
the fifty six NAACP Image Awards February twenty second at
eight pm.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
And it's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
Your mornings will never be the same. Don't be out
here acting like a donkey.

Speaker 12 (58:42):
Hey, it's time for Donkey of the Day.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I'm a big boy. I could take it if you
feel I deserve it.

Speaker 10 (58:49):
Ain't no big deal, I know. Charlottagea god gonnes say
his mouth.

Speaker 11 (58:52):
You've got to say something you may not agree with.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
It doesn't mean I'm needing. Who's getting that donky?

Speaker 10 (58:56):
That donkey that don't don't don't don't don't the.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Other day right there to the breakfast club. Bitches, you
can call me the donkey of the day, but like
I mean, no harm. Donkey today goes to twenty two
year old Malaysia Lee.

Speaker 11 (59:09):
Malaysia is from Charlotte, North Carolina's to loute to the
seven oh four dropping the clues bombs for Charlotte Man.
One of the reasons, one of the reasons that I've
chosen to be a mental health advocate is because I
want us as humans to learn how.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
To control our emotions.

Speaker 11 (59:24):
Easier said than done, I know. But today's donkey is
a prime example of it's not what happens to you,
but how you react to it that matters. That's why
you know, going to do that internal work on yourself matters, Okay,
because you can get to that place where you realize
you don't have to match energies, baby, and you realize
you don't have to take everything personally, because, as Don
Miguel Rowie says, and one of my favorite books to

(59:46):
four agreements, whatever happens around you don't take it personally.
Nothing other people do is because of you, It is
because of themselves. Malaysia could have used that advice. See
she could have used that second agreement because Malaysia was
an employee at Win. He's into seven o four and
according to store manager's a thirty one year old homeless
man named Alandrolandro, Yeah, Alandro Romero Santos came in the

(01:00:10):
restaurant requesting free food. Okay, the news report said he
was homeless, so clearly he wasn't having the best day.
After the manager provided him with a cup of water,
Santos allegedly used the cup to fill it up with
soda instead Pepsi coke sprite fana. I don't know what
his soda choice was, but when Santos went to the restroom,
the manager through the cup away. Why okay, I don't know.

(01:00:32):
Let the man have his cup if he wants, you know,
to get free refills. Who cares. In fact, give him
some of those hot fries and the cheeseburger and tell
him keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
The man was homeless.

Speaker 11 (01:00:41):
Now, granted, they can't make a habit of that because
you will have people coming to the store doing that
all the time. But if you see someone in need,
at least attempt to help. In this case, you didn't help.
In fact, you're clearly hurt because when Santos came out
the bathroom, he got mad. He got upset because the
manager through the cup away, So he went to the
parking lot, found another cup and return to the store

(01:01:01):
to fill it with soda once again. Now, of course
the manager didn't like that you went outside and found
a cup in the parking lot to fill it back
up with soda. By the way, that's nasty, Okay, that
is disgusting, all right. That's how you know, desperate times
called for desperate measures. Somebody might have to spit fleming
that coup, okay, and tossed it before they left the
parking lot. Might have been rolling a blunt, you know
what it is. Sometimes when you're out somewhere and you

(01:01:23):
sitting in the car, roll it up. You know, you
got a little cup from a fast food restaurant. You
put the blunt guts in that cup, spit in it,
you know, toss it. That's why using a cup he
found in the parking lot as gross. But according to
this article, he's also homeless, so I'm not judging. But
Santos got mad at the manager. So then Santo's threw
the soda at Malaysia, who is sitting in the restaurant

(01:01:45):
with the manager. Now, when I heard this story, I
said to myself, I think that's the soap. I'm not
the highest graded weed in the dispensary, knowing am I
illegal expert, But that feels like in a soalt. It's
not a punch, a slap, a push, but it is
an attack. Okay, there's a reason sprite rhyme would fight. Okay,
that is a man throwing a drink on a woman.
So I did some research, and by research I mean
I asked chat GPT is throwing a drink on a

(01:02:07):
woman considered assault? And chat GPT said yes, throwing a
drink on someone, including a woman, is generally considered assault
our battery under the law, depending on the jurisdiction. Well,
we need to lock up everyone on reality TV okay,
from Loving Hip Hop, the Real Housewives. Round them all up,
all right. Yes, Malaysia was assaulted. And Malaysia did what
a lot of people doing the Carolina's north of South Okay,

(01:02:28):
when't they get assaulted. She went to her car. Okay,
she didn't have an honor. She went and got her pistol. Now,
I don't know why the dude Santo stood there and
waited for her to come back, but I guess he
didn't expect this young lady to have a pistol.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
But she did.

Speaker 11 (01:02:41):
And Malaysia came back in the store, chased Alandro outside
and shot at him three times, hit him once in
the head while he was driving. Yes, this homeless man
had a car okay, and Malaysia shot the car up
and hit him in the head. And she was charged
with a salt with a deadly weapon would intent to kill,
and discharging the firearm into occupied property.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
And she is in customed.

Speaker 11 (01:03:00):
She's in custody at the Mecklenburg County Jail under a
quarter million dollar bond. Now, I tell you, folks all
the time, you cannot tell someone how to react. Okay,
I might push you and your response might be to
pull out a gun and pop me. Well, guess what,
I shouldn't have pushed you. There is cause and effect
that everything. But your uncle Charloah also tells you that
when faced with certain situations, you have to start doing
jail math in your head. Okay, you literally have to

(01:03:21):
calculate how much time you could possibly get if you
do said crime. You have to calculate in your head
if you can afford to do what it is you're
about to do. See Malaysia, I'm not mad at you
for going to get your pistol. You was assaulted.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I feel like.

Speaker 11 (01:03:33):
Owning a legal firearm in this country and knowing how
to use it as a form of self care. But
here's my issue and why you're getting the biggest he hall.
It's because you didn't do your jail math, Malaysia. You
had plenty of time to think about your choice. I
just standing this man threw sold on you, and I'm
glad you were able to go to your car to
get your gun. But the gun should have been there
to protect you from the situation escalating further, or maybe

(01:03:53):
even the whole demand water cops come. I'm not expecting
you to be a vigilante hero in this situation. But
I just wanted you to move with a little less emotion. Okay,
you gotta be strategic. I understand you were upset because
he threw a drink on you, and who knows what else.
You know, what's going on in his life or even
in your life. But you went and got that pistol.
He saw you coming, he hauled ass, got this car,
and you let off shots. I can even understand that

(01:04:14):
to a certain extent, because he might have been going
to his car to get his weapon.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
But in this case, according to reports, he was driving off.

Speaker 11 (01:04:21):
Let him go. I know, hindsight is twenty twenty, and
it's easy for me to say because I wasn't in
this situation, but let him go. Tell you could even
let one off in the air, just to let him
know you will bust your gun. But shooting in his
car three shots, gunshot waring too the head while he's
driving off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
You should have started doing that jail math in your head.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
Man.

Speaker 11 (01:04:39):
Luckily he's not deceased. But now you're sitting in the
county with a quarter million dollar bail. I'm not counting
your pockets, but you're twenty two in work at Windy's.
I doubt you got a quarter million all the twenty
five thousand, because most bonds are ten percent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
I doubt you have either. But that's why jail math works.

Speaker 11 (01:04:56):
And you have to calculate these scenarios in your head
before you make decisions. A dish subtraction, multiplication division? How
long will I be gone if I do this? How
much money will it cost me if.

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
I do this?

Speaker 11 (01:05:06):
Subtract your emotion from things and ask yourself, is it
worth it if I do this? The answer is no.
You are in jail right now simply because a man
wanted a free soda.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Let him have it.

Speaker 11 (01:05:18):
It is not worth ending up in jail over a
free soda and free fast food. I mean, come on, like,
who who would go to jail for a free soda.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
And free fast food?

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Play stead music? Okay, guys here, mid size Mac is here,
Mid size Mac is here?

Speaker 11 (01:05:43):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
How are you? Mid sized Mac? Hungary? Anyway? What Mac?

Speaker 11 (01:05:48):
I know? I knew as soon as I said something
about foods was gonna walk in here.

Speaker 21 (01:05:51):
This is I don't understand how I'll keep telling you
all that the big bags of biting back nothing is
worth any of this, and not even just because, like
you said, the jail mask. Every black person knows. We
all have the same matra at work. I don't get
paid enough for this. I agree yeah with them defending

(01:06:11):
that I don't get paid enough for this. You want
to steal from home depot. I don't get paid enough
for this. You gotta keep You just got to tell
yourself in the back of your mind constantly because that
will prevent you from having.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
To do the jail mak.

Speaker 11 (01:06:24):
So even if they throw the food on you with
a soda on you, you still like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Well, I'm the wrong person asked that somebody throw food
at me and it's a game. What else you got?

Speaker 11 (01:06:37):
Please give Malaysia lead the biggest he huh Jesus Glzzy
catcher that I said, somebody throw it at him? What
else you got?

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
God, that's not you know hr here they get paid
enough for this, all right?

Speaker 10 (01:07:02):
Thank you, Glusey ketching Chela Ma, thank you that dog
in the day.

Speaker 11 (01:07:04):
It's indeed the breakfast club, Good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Morning, everybody is DJ Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamage, the guy
we are the breakfast Club, Laura La Rosa Philin didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
For just today we got a special guest in the building.

Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
Yes, indeed we have the brother Leon Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Welcome, Bro, It's good, it's good. Hey y'all feeling how
you feeling? Bles's Black and Holly favorite. Leon, You are
by far the greatest new male R and B singer
doing it today.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Man, thank you so much. That shouldn't even be up
with debate. Man, Man, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Man, how do you receive it?

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
I mean, you know, to be honest, I try to
just take it one step at a time, you know,
I try to stay humble with everything. But I'm glad
to be a new voice in R and B. You know,
it's a genre that I love. You know, I'm trying
to bring back live musicianship, real songs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:07:51):
Writing with the team that I have has been in
an amazing pleasure. And you know, just bringing like that,
that organic feeling back to the live stage is like
a bit thing for me. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
For people that don't know Leon Thomas, you know you
started on Broadway. Tell everybody how you got your start
and your way into being this R and B star. Well, listen,
I grew up in New York, started on Broadway out here.
I did three Broadway plays from Lion King the Carolina
changed the color purple. You assemble and like, yeah, yeah,
I was assembling in Lion King, and then you know,
I started booking movies and TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
How how was that? I just took my kids to
see it. It was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I was that training because it's a lot of shows,
a lot of people in its lives, so you can't
mess up.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
No, no, you can't mess up. It's eight shows a week.
I was ten years old when I did my first
Broadway play. Shout out to my mom and my family
for you know, supporting me through that whole journey. And yeah, man,
I went from being a regular kid to starring on
Broadway and a matter of months.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
You know, now, how was that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Because it's not the typical thing New York kids do. Right,
So you're singing, you're dancing, you're doing that. So how
did you get it to that part of New York? No,
because you don't go to Broadway.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
I don't know anybody. It went to Brow It's very different.
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
I had a couple homies who ended up in different plays,
but for the most part, yeah, yeah, it was definitely
like a.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Bit of an anomaly for my neighborhood in Brooklyn.

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:09:09):
It was kind of weird explaining it to my homies
at school, like, yeah, I was just doing a show
last night.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
They're like, what was going on? Yeah, we're not from
New York, from the hoods of New York. Okay, But no.

Speaker 7 (01:09:24):
It was definitely a real pleasure, you know. But but
but from there, I ended up doing a lot of
TV and film.

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
I shot my first movie out here with Robin Williams
and Terrence Howard called August Rush, which was an amazing pleasure,
and that kind of brought me into a lot of
a lot of TV after that, with Nickelodeon and Victorious Yeah, yeah, yeah,
with Ariana Grande, and you know, that was a big journey.
That was the number one show on the network at
the time. We were beating out American Idol, and it

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was a way for the rest of the world to
kind of really tap into who I am as a creative.
But it took years of really honing in on who
I am as an artist to get to this point,
producing and writing for a bunch of different artists, winning
a Grammy, working with Sizza and Babyface, Drake, a bunch
of different people. It's been a real actually produced for

(01:10:10):
Drake but but you know, shout out to him. Yeah allegedly, man,
But you know, for I don't think there's anything wrong
with it either. But it was a blessing to I mean,
it's interesting because I'm an artist and people see me
as a singer, they kind of forget that I also
produced a lot of big records.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
You know, my production game is pretty tight. So yeah,
all purpose lyrics like that of a rap.

Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
But that's why when I see Freddy Gibbs on your records,
But it makes so much sense to be you're touching
anybody from.

Speaker 7 (01:10:40):
Victoria's absolutely man. You know, I'll chop it up with
Ari Avan. Joe Gia is a really good friend of mine,
you know, Matt Bennett, a lot of the cast. We
all hang out and do lunch. It's kind of like
my last two years of high school were with them,
so that's like my graduating class.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Essentially.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
We were all in school together, so we filmed, but
we also went to school. So those my really good friends.

Speaker 11 (01:10:59):
With Victor and her mom, I did a host of
the New Year's Eve special with them for real, that's no,
that's no people you ever wrote for im?

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:11:07):
Actually I worked with her on her first album. That
was my first time going number one with an album.
I did about like four songs on her first album,
Yours truly Wow. So that was a real, real pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Did you know you always wanted to be an R
and B singer? Like it was that the goal as
a kid growing up? She always wanted to be an actor,
Like and when did you pivot? When he was like,
this is what I want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (01:11:27):
I feel like I did this role with Catherine Bigelow,
She's an Oscar Award winning director, but I had to
cut my dreads for it, and that was kind of
like my last straw in acting.

Speaker 13 (01:11:35):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
I did this role for Detroit and I felt like,
you know, I need to kind of tap back into
who I am as an artist. You know, grew my
dreads back, really got into my internal self meditating, really
like tapping into who I am as a human being,
and a lot of great music came out of that.
You know, I always knew I wanted to be a singer,
but I knew for a fact I needed to really

(01:11:59):
present myself That's who I truly was. It's so easy
to play a character when you're always acting. You know,
I needed to come to the world as my true
self when you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
Were on the like the sets when you like even
with like Victorious and stuff like that. What was your mom?

Speaker 20 (01:12:13):
And like your parents there often or talked a lot
about that too, Like y'all parents were close.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
Now they were there, they were there. You know, My
mom was never like a mamager like over my over
my shoulder kind of mom. But she was also very
protective of my piece and mental health and making sure
that I'm just like in a good a good space
while I'm while I'm trying to create something timeless, and
you know, shout out to her for just always you know,
creating safe spaces for me throughout that journey.

Speaker 11 (01:12:41):
You know, from getting lined.

Speaker 7 (01:12:46):
It was definitely nuts, definitely nuts, you know, seeing seeing
how definitely it's definitely definitely insane.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Don't say that, definitely nuts after that, Yeah, I know,
I know, you know, it's crazy. It's crazy because you know,
I just saw the doc not too long ago.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
It's nothing the eye opening and a lot of my
castmates we hopped on a zoom call we all wanted
to talk about it, and luckily during during our seasons
it was it was very wholesome and chill. But you know,
shout out to anybody who dealt with anything bad. I mean,
I you know, my heart definitely goes out to them.

Speaker 11 (01:13:21):
The thing I love about your music too is number one.
I can tell you man, you got a sense of freedom. Yeah,
but did that come with money or did that come
with just how you came up, you know, with your
mom doing music, so you always felt free as an artist?

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
I mean, you know, I think the greatest thing about
being an artist is that it's a it's a great
representation of being a free black man, you know, like
you know, being able to wear what I want, you know,
say what I want on on record is really important
to me.

Speaker 9 (01:13:48):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
I try to stay as grounded and uh as real
to who I am as I can be. I mean,
I think it's it's it's really easy to want to
be an artist and play a character who you think
people want you to be. But I'm doing my best
to just like kind of just say what I want.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Do I want?

Speaker 20 (01:14:03):
You know, when you come up with songs with like
I like feelings, on Silent with I Love Vallet, but
songs like that, Like when I listen to it, each
time I get something different from it. So the first
time I listened to I was like, Oh, this is
like guys just being like we keep her feelings to herself.
And then the second time I listened, I'm like, this
is the trauma that they deal with, because like he
mentions PTSD and a bunch of other things, like how
do you first of all, sitting back you wrote that, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:14:26):
sitting back and writing with him, how do you be like, Okay,
here's all the things that we want people to get
when they hear this, or do you guys just write
and whatever people get they get Like were you dealing
with something yourself then?

Speaker 9 (01:14:37):
Or you know?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
The way I wrote that record was really interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
I was in I was in Italy actually, I was
working with Ya and Todd Dollars on the Vultures One project,
and I just had some lyrics kind of you know,
bubbling up in my head. But I think it was
one of those moments that it was just kind of
stream of consciousness. I didn't really think too hard on
my sections. That was like my second take that you're
hearing it wasn't like me like kind of really punching

(01:15:02):
in a bunch of different ideas.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
It was just kind of flowing. And when wile A.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
Heard it, that was probably the hardest verse to get
because we did probably we did like five sessions to
get that one verse. But Yo, he's so talented and
seeing how he crafted his verse, I mean, he would
do like five bars at the time, and he really
cared about the poetry of it all. And it's why
I really respect him as an artist. He's just a

(01:15:26):
true lyricist.

Speaker 11 (01:15:27):
All Right.

Speaker 10 (01:15:27):
We got more with Leon Thomas when we come back,
don't Move.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarius, Charlamagne the Guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. Laurn La Rossa joined us for
this Leon Thomas interview. Of course, Leon Thomas a singer, songwriter,
producer and acting. His album Mutt is out right now,
and we got to congratulate you because you gotta Grammy
for your record with Scissa. We tell everybody that we
helped with that because we played Snools every morning four times.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
You wrote Snooze was produced on Snooze Man. First of all,
let's clear this up. Shout out to Scissor for writing
that record. We were producing in a separate room and
she heard the instrumental and was like, Yo, what is that?
And you know, there is something that I do where
I like take my voice and I chop it up
like a sample because clearing samples is really expensive and
cuts into the publishing. So rather than it's like actually

(01:16:17):
doing a sample, I'll just you know, sing a little something, right.
So she really liked that and then took it into
the other room and wrote an amazing song and being
a part of the production on that with Babyface legendary
Babyface was a true pleasure man. I mean, it was
a real journey to see that song go from like
a crowd favorite to a Grammy Award winning R and
V song.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Man that that was definitely life changing for me.

Speaker 11 (01:16:39):
You got a deduction team, right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
The Rascals me, Me and and Chris tians Man.

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
We've been working together since we were like eighteen, so
it's really cool to see the growth. I Mean, we
started off, you know a little shaky when it game
in production, but it's nice to see us, you know,
really develop into the producers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
We are now. We had great mentors.

Speaker 20 (01:16:56):
Man, you have such big moments like even before that,
during that, but it's like, I don't know, like when
do you feel like things started like to click finally
where people were like, oh, shoot, Leon, like.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
We get it now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
It's really interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
I like to call it the Drake effect when I
was working When I was working with Drake, all of
a sudden, label executives who have known me for years,
were like, eh, I think you could be an artist,
you know, And I was like, okay, so I kind
of peeped that and I said, okay, well, let's start
kind of building this out. But I knew I wanted
that same formula that Drake had with a little Wayne
and and you know, working with Todd dallas Son was

(01:17:31):
a really smart move, not only because he's just an
amazing artist, but because it was just nice to have
a mentor who had done it already. So he's he's
just like kind of like, yo, try this, make sure
the look has this, or you know, even when it
came to the music, like here's how you really format
an album. And I'm definitely doing a lot of studying,
you know. Shout out to Todd dallas son for sure.

(01:17:52):
He definitely, you know, saw something in me that a
lot of label executives were not sure about. And it's
cool to see it developing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
How did you real? Tongue?

Speaker 7 (01:18:00):
How I was actually working on this album as a
producer on featuring Todd Dollars Sign, I was like one
of I think nine producers on a song with Kanye
and Thundercat and a bunch of other people.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Nine producers on one record.

Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
Yeah, because it when it was like point five, like
I was just there out of this or that vocal
and like some bass or something. But he had everybody
play like their unreleased records and I played them some
of my first album as like demos, and Todd was like, yo,
you really You're really tight, you know as an artist,
he was like man, And he was originally trying to

(01:18:34):
record one of the songs that I had, but I
was like, nah, I want you to feature on it.
And h Over the years we became really good friends.
I was working with him a lot and just kind
of developed into a into a whole situation with Sean Baron.
Sean Barron is the guy who officially like put it
all together with Easy Money in Motown is.

Speaker 20 (01:18:50):
It tough navigating because people are getting to know you
now and everybody's falling in love with your music now,
and have such a close association with Drake, you have
to like pick and choose where you go musically and
what you do musically with who you know.

Speaker 11 (01:19:01):
Honestly, can you work with Kendrick Lamar if you wanted to?

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:19:05):
Yeah, yeah, I know that's what she's asking. I mean,
the way, the way I really look at it is
just like on a political level, I make R and B.
You know, obviously I make hip hop too, but I'm
really focused on my artist's journey. So I mean, Kendrick
is such a huge artist, I don't really foresee us
working together in the near future, and even with Drake,
you know, I still want to take my steps to

(01:19:25):
really build on my own two feet as an artist.
So I'm doing what i have to do right now
to really like grow my own business. Touring is a
big thing for me. I'm really focused on that. I'm
hitting the road all this year and working on more records.
So I mean, shout out to everybody, but I'm definitely
focused on me.

Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
How old were you when you realize vibes don't lie.
One of my favorite records when you first realized Vibes
don't Live.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I think that was that was definitely early twenties.

Speaker 7 (01:19:52):
I think uh LA is filled with facades and people
who are pretending to be something they aren't, people who
move from their home town and create a whole new persona.
Uh So, I think for me, just really studying folks,
especially a lot of the women you deal with out there.
You know, it's really important to study their actions and
out their words.

Speaker 11 (01:20:10):
I love the fact that you are encouraging women women
to keep their healthy. Yes, did you ever want to
be a collegist?

Speaker 7 (01:20:18):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:20:21):
No, no, no, I wasn't on the list.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I just listen. Yeah, I just listen. I just listen.

Speaker 11 (01:20:26):
Man, they tell you like, hey, I'm not feeling the
best of this.

Speaker 7 (01:20:29):
No. I mean, I just think pH balance is a conversation,
and you know, I just listen because you was very
very specific. She said she only drink water, she keep
that healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
They sat on.

Speaker 20 (01:20:44):
Twitter, you'd be talking crazy like that, but you sing
it so people can't be you had that conversation in
real life, which your home like you're not your homegrown.

Speaker 7 (01:20:54):
I'm just big on shock value. I think songs, especially
R and B songs, have gotten a bit not boring.
But I think we've you've kind of already hit the
golden era of R and B. So I'm just finding
new ways to make people's ears, you know, perk up
and their minds move. I think social media and podcasts
are really interesting to me. You know, these phone mics
bring out so many conversations, and I think as an

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R and B artist, I want to find ways to
let that live on the record, and it doesn't always
have to be like verbatim of what I'm going through
in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
I think it's important to create the drama.

Speaker 19 (01:21:27):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:21:28):
I kind of see music as you know, script and
the score. So sometimes the records are just like really
good dramatizations of like what I'm seeing, you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Think everybody, But but like, how does that go for
you right now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
I mean I don't think. I don't think it's now.

Speaker 20 (01:21:45):
Expecting you to be like, all right, here's the check,
Like how do you because you got the songs like that?

Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I definitely got the songs. But
I think it's just important to be honest with your partner,
you know, communicate. But but I think it's it's a
it's a pretty interesting conversation. I try to stay out
of it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
But to you, I wax test.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
No, I don't even know what that is you putting
me right now.

Speaker 11 (01:22:06):
Wax test a little bit that the little wax on it,
but a little pinky. Put the pinky inside and hold
on what you you got something that's it should be you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Listen you say should do it on yourself. I don't
know where you.

Speaker 7 (01:22:25):
Do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
That is nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
That's the South Carolina the same road thing that they do.
It doesn't I do not try that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:32):
He that doesn't Your mom never told you that you
g goys to make it. Go drink gingerrolls. You talking
about ginger rop everything not ear wax. Don't listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
That's why you're saying that. That's why you say that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:22:53):
Locirla used to be like, go get some ginger and
lay down.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Wow about no we lovel around here.

Speaker 11 (01:23:02):
Did your therapist really tell you that you're too detached
or that you commit Nah?

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
I think I think you know that bar for me.
I have a co writer, Busy Krug, and he lives
in Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Great Rapper. That was a bar that came from him.
He's very deep into therapy.

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
But I'm glad that we talked about it on record
because I mean it's something that I definitely did try
out over the pandemic, and it's something that I actually
really respect you a lot for a champion, you know.
But but but yeah, that was a that was a
bar from Busy, But I thought it was important to
add in there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
You know, don't try to blame Busy now, nah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
I mean, you know that's my co you know, shout
out to him, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (01:23:40):
Like, we we write a lot of our songs together,
and I really respect a lot of the perspectives he
brings to a lot of my poignant records.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
You know, Yeah, some great bars. Can we get into
a song of that? What you want? That would be amazing?
Let's play? Yes it is? It would be really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
All right, Well, let's get into the record right now.
Is yes, it is that we got more with Leon
Thomas when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
It's the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Good morning to everybody, is ded Jesselai Shallam and the
guy We are the Breakfast Club. Laura ros is joining
us on this interview, and we're still kicking it with
Leon Thomas Lauren for.

Speaker 20 (01:24:09):
Dancing with When I listened to Dancing with the Demons,
do you ever get like Miguel references sometimes absolutely listening,
I'm like, oh my gosh, Like I wonder if like that, Like,
are y'all do you know him?

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
Yeah, that's like my big bro. We actually did a
movie together. He was in Detroit when I had to
cut my hair for he was. He was an amazing,
amazing mentor for me for some years. You know that
bridge between R and B and rock and roll, He's
traveled across that bridge many a time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
I definitely look up to him when it comes to that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:39):
And you know, for me, because I played multiple instruments,
you know, I definitely try to just embody a lot
of that energy. But but I think we both have
the same influences as well.

Speaker 11 (01:24:48):
I agree with Lauren on that Miguel to me before
you was the last great R and B male R
and B singer. To me, I'm just talk about the
new guy, right right, Yeah, you know, yeah legend I'm talking.
He was the last one to me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
And I felt the same way when I heard Dancing
with the Demons.

Speaker 11 (01:25:04):
I feel like I feel like you're talking to yourself
on that record, though, you said you can't seem to
save yourself or never learn to ask for help, going
out all night searching for a feeling. M hm, So
so what what what have you learned to ask for help?

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
And so what I thought, because I took it as
it wasn't talking about a.

Speaker 7 (01:25:19):
Woman at some point, well, I mean it's interesting for me,
like that record. When I wrote it, I wrote it
in two different days. The first day I was, you know,
micro dosin on shrooms, so it's a bit of a haze.
The next day I listened to it and I was like, man,
this is really poignant stuff. I mean, it's just really
talking about being up all night and searching for a feeling,
and it's trying to fill voids. I feel like, as uh,

(01:25:41):
you know, when you're in your single journey, you can
you can try to fill a void with a with
a stranger, and that's not always very healthy and fun.
It could be fun, it could be fun, for sure,
but but but, and then, especially when you're when you're
in the limelight. The second verse is more so talking
about being in the limelight and trying to fill Nobody
really talks about the darkness that comes with the flashing lights.

(01:26:04):
And yeah, that that that record was very deep and
very personal for me. You know, I'm glad that people
resonate with it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Now you're talking about microdosing on shrooms, But what does
that put your mind? And do you always do that
to produce and write?

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Nah?

Speaker 7 (01:26:15):
Nah, I mean, I think I think for this this album,
it was an interesting opportunity to kind of unplug. I mean,
I wasn't doing as many shows around that time too,
so it was really helpful to to kind of just
get into my own head and try to figure out
who I am.

Speaker 8 (01:26:29):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:26:30):
I definitely did a lot of manifest and a lot
of just like writing down who I wanted to be
as a human being around that time, a lot of journaling,
you know, and looking back at that season in my life.
It was it was a journey for me to evolve
into who I am right now. I wouldn't suggest people
just go super crazy on shrooms or anything, but I
think microdosing, you know, small amount could be healthy if

(01:26:52):
you're trying to just find yourself, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
And at that time, I was trying to find myself,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
Micro do You said you were trying to find yourself,
did you. Yeah, But I mean I feel like that's
a constant journey. That's like the whole part of finding yourself.
You realize it. It never stops because we're always evolving,
you know. But it's it's great that I was able
to do it through music. That that that was like
a version of musical therapy for me. And I'm glad
that people are resonating with it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
I love how you're normalizing dogs on but I'm not
a dog anymore.

Speaker 11 (01:27:20):
There is a young, unhealed version of me that would
have really appreciated that that record.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Because you make it sound so fun. It's almost like
women are just gonna bring.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
You in, like.

Speaker 11 (01:27:32):
Let me domesticate you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Nah.

Speaker 7 (01:27:34):
I mean I was really just documenting what I saw,
but nah nah no, definitely definitely talk to me post
you know, post breakup, where where I just had to
I just had to figure it out. But I think
that's all a part of living, you know, you get
nervous though. This is a post breakup album. Yeah, this

(01:27:58):
is a post breakup album. So this is me documenting,
you know, finding myself. First off, like you know, you
you're you're kind of broken after that, and then you
got to you gotta put the pieces back together.

Speaker 11 (01:28:07):
Her fault.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Yes, No, that's not her fault. It's fault Leon.

Speaker 11 (01:28:11):
It's her fault that you ended up being a dog.
You went through your own face. I think it's very
commendable to that on the song. A safe place you
let the person you're dealing with, no, this isn't a
safe place.

Speaker 7 (01:28:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think knowing that I wasn't
necessarily ready to settle down. I think that conversation definitely
came up a lot during I guess you would call
them all face you know, just understanding like yo' I'm
not trying to settle down. This is a this is
a fun place, you know. This is a a time
period where I'm just figuring me out. Work is crazy,
it's ecnic, you know, And I think having that conversation

(01:28:44):
was important to, like you said, just avoid people not
understanding what it was at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
That's a personal because you're honest in music, but it's
difficult to be face to face with somebody and be lying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
It's very is very difficult.

Speaker 9 (01:28:57):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:57):
I really try my best to be as honest as
I can, But yeah, those are hard conversations.

Speaker 19 (01:29:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
You know, I can't sit here and say I've always
done it right or I'm perfect or anything.

Speaker 7 (01:29:05):
But I try. I try to be like real, you know.
I try to explain myself. But even when you explain yourself,
sometimes wires get crossed, you know. So I'm packing it
and communicating, you know, it's an important thing later on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
Yeah, no, little woman won't hear that. She just lets
you hit wrong.

Speaker 20 (01:29:19):
Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's not as a woman ever
said that to you when you were trying to like create,
like all right, maybe this is like a thing and
she's like, yo, I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:29:28):
Want to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:29:30):
Actually yeah, yeah. In my in my early twenties, I
was talking to this amazing artist. Uh and yeah, she
was just like listen, maybe the same safe place kind
of thing. You know, anybody know now She's like, no, no, no,
I don't think you can tear it up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Yeah no, no, no.

Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
It was all good for me, I mean at that point,
but yeah, yeah, you know, it was definitely you know,
it was definitely a realization for me. I was like, oh,
it can happen on that side too. I was like
twenty maybe twenty one, you know, oh yeah, yeah, So
I was like real young green, like, oh okay, alright, cool.

(01:30:05):
So you're all looking for a relationship now if the
right person. Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely I'm definitely in that
mode right now.

Speaker 20 (01:30:10):
Are you dated?

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
Would you date other like artists, celebrities or do you
like how does that work? Are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
It's just hectic.

Speaker 7 (01:30:16):
I mean, you're kind of inviting the media into your
life like the one safe place you have. But I mean,
who knows if I really catch a vibe with somebody
who happens to be fan. I mean, I don't really
care about that side of things. You know, I've been
in the game a long time. I've met some beautiful
women who are amazing artists. But it's just about the
human being and it can be tough to to really
build something if both of your schedules are super hectic.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
So I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:30:39):
I don't want to ask a questions two about another
record on Far Effected. Yeah, you said he was having
a big conversation this week about tricken because you know,
skip Bail is a legedly oh my god, put somebody
one point five million and you say, paid for my
mistakes and bevenes and diamonds too fifty fronted like you
was my artist five g's just across the Atlantic.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
We sat in silence for almost two hours.

Speaker 5 (01:30:59):
Yeah, that's a horrible quarter million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Yeah, benses and diamonds.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
Well, listen, when I wrote that record, it was not
for me. That was not a joint that I was
originally gonna use for me. It was for somebody really
famous and really rich. But I just love the way
it sounded, and I was like, well, you know what,
I love to speak in a world where I can
actually afford that, why not let's manifest.

Speaker 11 (01:31:19):
That elucid dreams you talk about just significant other leaving
things behind.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Yeah, that was a fun record with Masego after a breakup.
Why do you think that the topic is taboo?

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
I don't really consider it taboo necessarily, but I think
it's just like it's just funny because for me, I
was living with my ex for like a couple of years,
so she just had like a closet filled with clothes
at my crib and it had been like a year
and a half since we were broken up. So we
were in the studio talking about different things. The guitarist
and producer on that song Freaky Rob, his girl left

(01:31:50):
a flat screen at the house that he had to
use to watch Netflix. He was like, man, when is
she gonna take this flat screen? And you know, Masego
also had a similar situation like that at his crib
with the couch. So we were all just kind of
using all of our different experiences putting it into a
song and you know, just locking it in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
It's different when it's closed.

Speaker 5 (01:32:08):
Yeah, did you clear you cleared out the class, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Definitely clears out the Yeah, clear out the closet.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
Did you move out of the apartment or you just
cleared out the closing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Nah, I'm still at the crib, you know what I mean,
still at the crib.

Speaker 7 (01:32:18):
You know, there's definitely a certain interior design choices I'm
gonna switch up, so but it's.

Speaker 5 (01:32:23):
Like real reason yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:32:26):
The album is out right now. Make sure you pick
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
And we appreciate you for joining us, but thank you
so much for having me. Man, it's a big opportunity.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 10 (01:32:33):
It's Leon Thomas. The album what is out now and
it's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning. Everybody's DJ n
V just Larius Charlamage and the guy we are the
Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
It's Black History Month for what we do today Charlamage, Yes,
you know.

Speaker 11 (01:32:44):
Every day during Black History Month, my guy b Dot
puts out a podcast called I Didn't Know Maybe you
didn't either on the Black Effect iHeart Radio podcast Network,
And today he's gonna tell you about Mary and Simms
once hell as the father of modern gynecology. He built
his legacy on exploiting enslaved black women with our anesthesia,
turning medical progress into a hardfying practice.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Let's listen.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
I didn't know, I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
I didn't know.

Speaker 16 (01:33:08):
Jay Marion Sims. He developed life saving medical techniques back
in the eighteen hundreds, but the way he did it wild.
He experimented on enslaved black women without anesthesia, like, Hey,
I'm about to cut you open, all right, but don't worry.
You'll be fine because you Blacks don't feel pain quite
like I did.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
That's literally what he believed, and people let him get
away with it.

Speaker 16 (01:33:31):
Three women have been documented Anarca, Lucy, and Betsy, and
these three women went through Hell. Anarca alone had over
thirty surgeries, thirty with no anesthesia, and Sims called it science.
And you know what he got for it, a statue
in Central Park. Like imagine going for a jog and

(01:33:52):
seeing a dude being honored for torturing black women. That
was a reality before twenty eighteen, because in twenty eighteen,
activist showed up up in bloody hospital gowns so that
you could visualize these atrocities and pretty much said, nah,
this statue's gotta go. And guess what they won. The
statue got moved to a cemetery, and quite honestly, that's

(01:34:12):
where it belongs, right beside Jay Marion Sims's dead ethics.
Now here's where it gets real. You think this is
just some old school nonsense, right, Nah, those same erasist
ideas are still here, lurking in hospitals like bad Wi Fi.
Studies show doctors today still think black women feel less pain.

(01:34:33):
That's why black women are three times more likely to
die from childbirth complications.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Three times.

Speaker 16 (01:34:40):
Meanwhile, Karen over there getting extra talanol for a papercut.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Make it make sense?

Speaker 9 (01:34:46):
So what do we do?

Speaker 16 (01:34:47):
First, stop giving shady people statues, But more importantly, we
gotta listen when people say they're in pain or need help.
We need to believe them because if Anarca, Lucy and
Betsy could survive all that, the least we can do
is make sure that nobody else has to.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
No, I didn't know, maybe you didn't either. I didn't know.

Speaker 11 (01:35:07):
Thank you for that information.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
B dot.

Speaker 11 (01:35:09):
Make sure you subscribe to I didn't know. Maybe you
didn't neither. On the Black Effect. iHeartRadio podcast network available
everywhere you listen to podcasts. Go back and listen to
the past couple of seasons two. You're guaranteed to learn something.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
All right when we come back.

Speaker 10 (01:35:21):
We got the positive notice the Breakfast Club, good morning
knowing everybody's dj NV just Hilaris.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Charalamagne, the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

Speaker 10 (01:35:29):
It's time to get up out of here, Charlamonne.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
You got a positive note. Unity is strength.

Speaker 11 (01:35:33):
It is all right. When there is teamwork and collaboration,
wonderful things can be achieved. That is actually my positive
note of today. Okay, Breakfast Club, it is you don't

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Finish for y'all done,

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