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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Morning everybody, it's the j Envy, just hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got some special legends
in the building. Yes, and we got the brother Common
and the brother Pete Rock. Well, I'm feeling, man, this
is breakfast.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
This is a beautiful day man for us to like
have a new album and just be together creating music.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Man, I ain't gonna front. I was last night.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I was just like taking things in like, man, it's
spent some years of making music, ups and downs, and
to be here like just releasing new music and the
fact that some people niggas see me on the street,
like yo, when that new pet Rock joint coming out
of that, I ain't had that in a long time.
So I ain't gonna front. I'm feeling like just blessing
on a high, man, just a spiritual high.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You be on the street, and this is how hip
hop is. If you try to battle Common in anything
on the street, it don't matter if it's dancing, if
it's rapping, if it's graffiti. He is to the four.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
And he participated, He participated in a don't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
He is spending on his back, like I know it's
back hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
After that, Yo, my team be tripping because we was
in the prison. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
We was, you know, doing some prison work, and this
girl wanted to battle me and break dancing. And the
girl was like, Yo, she could break dance. She's gonna
get you. I was like, okay, So she started doing
her little poplocking.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Man. I went down and there some windmill.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
It was like it was like, you ain't gonna let
the girl in prison be too, and I'm a competitor.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
The new album is The Auditorium of All One, produced
entirely by by Pete rop Up. Why why is King
s theter to cover for this project?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
We wanted to once we got the title the Auditorium,
we wanted a dope a dope theater and a dope auditory.
We heard about different ones and I looked at king Theatre.
Somebody from my team sent sent it to me Nicole,
and I was like, Yo, that's it. And I was like, man,
are they gonna fit it within the budget? And for
a second I called I called my my agent, Mary

(02:17):
who books my shows, and I was like, yo, can
you help us to get King's Theatre She was like,
I'm going there, Tom, I'm gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
I'm gonna get it. I talked to them and then
I went up there. Yo.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I went up there on my own, just went knocked
on the door like hey, y'all, you know, we want
to shoot a cover.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Me and Pete Rock and the dude.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
The security let me in and was like talking to
the person like, yo, comment is right here, asking me
could I get So it ended up yo, charlam Mane.
It ended up being like, man, this was divine order
because you know when we was taking those pictures and
it said King Theater, I was like, this is dope
and this you know, they've had like a lot of
historic it's in Brooklyn, they had a lot of historic

(02:55):
performances and Diana Ross reopened that spot and actually your
failure wife was lived around that area, so it was
a lot of tie ins and even just shooting the cover,
Pete and I was like, man, we ain't shot an
album cover in a minute where you're going through that
experience of taking shots and just you know, it was
it was dope, man, so so so salute to the

(03:15):
King the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
So how did you get back together? Hey, how do
y'all decide to do what album? What was that conversation, like,
what do y'all meet your world's meeting and say, let's
do this.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
We've been wanting to do it since, you know. We
did the ice Cube joint and then we did the
Sol Survivor album for Loud when I was signed Loud
and he wrapped on the joint with Nori and Pun.
But I'm skipping a whole bunch. But we met in
nineteen ninety right.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Somewhere around the night because I ain't come out to
ninety two, so around then in the early nineties, and.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's when I, you know, start traveling, moving around doing
promo tours. Somehow we linked up when we met and
I ate his mom's cooking because he brought me to
his crib, and you know, it was it was history
from there.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
Brow did you ever catch any static for producing?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Not really, not really, but you know, yo, but Pete
was one of the at the time. He was really
one of the only producers that was open to doing it.
Even even my great brother know I Di didn't want
to get involved just because you know, it just was
a lot of a lot going on. So man, Pete
was like I've been saying that rhyme out for a
minute and Pete and I reached out to Pete and

(04:23):
he was like, he took me out to Mount Vernon
and he said it was me in black thoughts. He said,
I was heated at the time, but you know, but then.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You answered the question turned to calm him down, like
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean, but I was. I was in the state
where I just wanted to man. I was like, damn, man,
I got this like this much. I was ready to
get get back at it and uh, get back at
Q but uh, you know, it's all love now, so
I ain't. I ain't dwelling too deep into it, but
I say that, man, he gave me that beat and
I was like, Yo, this beating, this is this is
what I need for this song. And that was the

(04:58):
first joint we ever did. Just went made it in
Robbo's basement, his guy's basement. I was like, man, this dude,
he came through for me. We've been brothers ever since.
And this came about because man, it was a lot
like last year, I really like understood how important hip
hop is and how like valuable people still like how

(05:18):
much people still value it like that. I think it
was going to like all the hip hop celebrations like
going like this the fiftieth year. I remember being in
a Yankee Stadium and I performed at that show. It
was NAS and Lauryn Hill, E PMD, run DMC, Man,
Mob Deep, BT Joe like it was. I stood in

(05:42):
the crowd for like five hours. I never did that
at a show, stood in the crowd and just watched.
And I was like, man, and saw like the Yankee
Stadium going crazy over all these songs, everybody from Ice
Q to Mob Deep to Little Kim, and we always
enjoying it.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
And it made me it just it reaffirmed that, man,
this this music is still valuable to people.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And I was like, damn, you know people are paying
attention to the lyrics even more, like because I've done
certain I've done.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Music and people don't even know I put the music out.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
But when I get on to do a freestyle of
SOMETHINGE my homies hitting me up about Yo, you heard
Jay Cole on this, or you heard you know like
or you know of course the battle with Kendrick and Drake.
They like, YO, listen to these lyrics. To me, it
just felt like it feels like hip hop is alive
in a new way right now.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
So like I'd always wanted to connect with Pete, I
didn't know it would be a whole project. I said, Yo,
let's see what's up?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You do? You knew?

Speaker 6 (06:37):
How did you know? Pete?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Because I was like, nah, we're doing that, yeah, straight up,
Boguard Bully like yo, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Mean but he delivered on the.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Your production is so stellar and it's still soul stella,
And I was wondering, you have these beats in the
stash or did you make these purposely for common in
this past.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I had some in the stash and maybe made some recently,
but they were all done. And then you know, I
just took a whole bunch and start sending it to him.
Well he came to the crib for us. Yeah, and
then you know, he sat down and I started playing beans.
He was like, yep, yep, yep, that one, that one. Yeah,
but he also was sending it. But you also was
sending me records too like that.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And that's a process that you know, I haven't been
a part of in a minute where where like I'm
sitting down and the producers like got the record and
he finding us what.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
He's about to sample for me.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Pete was sending these these records and I was like, yo, yo,
that's it right there, you know, like loop that and
and to be a part of that process, it's like
a creative thing. I feel like that's how you can
come with a sound. And it was even bigger than
just us like just making music to be hones. As
soon as I got the piece crib, we started talking
about life, you know, and that and that, and that's

(07:50):
something that's like in the in the process of being
artists and creating together. It's like you need to be
able to like be connect as human beings like and
like man, we were talking about therapy, life, you know, children,
and it was just like, man, I'm in that. You
sometimes you just know when you're in the right place.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
You know, it's energy. Energy.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Energy is like and that got intuition is one of
the most like underrated things. And I was like, as
soon as I was at this crib, I was like, Okay,
we're gonna do an album like and and I felt
like we both.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Would put our heart and souls into it.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
And I was noticing that his sound was fresh, it
wasn't liked.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
No, I just took what we did from back in
the day and just kind of mixed it in with
what's going on today, you know, and we want to
we want to rock with the young.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I was going to ask, you know, the celebration last year,
of the fiftieth celebration, it seemed like it made people
respect hip hop again, and not just the newer artist
the older artists. Well, because I'm seeing a lot of
the ogi's back on tour and I'm seeing this show
sold out, people, have you guys with.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
This that bro I was.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I was on that LL Force tour with the Roots
for a second, and I did different cities.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Cleveland, Chicago, Detroit.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm like, Yo, it's people here like coming in their outfits,
like celebrating this music and El's doing like songs that
ain't even hit, like hits from his album like one
nine hundred l and people rocking to it. Us shit
was dope, and that like all that was. I agree
that we celebrated the culture. And what made me feel

(09:27):
good was like we celebrated ourselves. We ain't have to
like wait for it, wait for somebody else to determine
what this was. It was like, man, we celebrating ourselves,
and it just to me, we ain't know when we
were Like when I first started rhyming, I ain't know, like, damn, man,
could I could be rhyming? I'm fifty two years old,
you know, I'm rhyming like and I'm still and I

(09:48):
still feel the love of what is that I have
for this culture? And I didn't know when I was
nineteen rapping. I'm like I was thinking, like by the
time I'm thirty, man, I might not be able to
do this right. We just didn't have any blueprints of
people who had evolved and grown in the in the
industry to be able to find out how to exist

(10:08):
and in so many genres of music, they do it right.
Like I mean, I'm a I'm a big jazz head
and it's a it's a jazz drummer named Roy Haynes.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
It plays in his.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Nineties, you know, and I want to I feel like
we now feel believe that hip hop can you can
be however old and just creating if the music is good, young, old,
I mean, just create great music.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
I had a discussion with LL recently and he said
he had to learn how to rap again, so so common.
Do you ever feel like that we're rapping, Pete. Do
you ever feel like that with production?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yep, I feel like that. Well, I'm always at it,
but you know there's times where I'm you know, I
don't want to make beats, but when I do feel it,
it's in my fingers and I'm ready to go. But
you know I have that feeling, I go through that.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, I definitely, I've been through it, like and now. Honestly,
that was one of the reasons that I started, like
getting into acting was like because I started studying acting,
but the reason I pursued it even more was because
I didn't want to be making music when I ain't
really feeling it, and I got to find another way
to a creative outlet but also another way to survive

(11:16):
and get out there. So acting was one of those things.
And it was times when I came back to rap,
I'm like, what do I say? I remember I was
talking to Tarik to Black though, and he was like, Nigga,
you didn't put out albums just rap, just rap, and
it kind of reminded me man just MC. So like,
gradually I started getting better and getting better at my

(11:38):
craft and going back to mceing and hearing other MC's, like,
that's always inspiring. That's always been the thing. When I
when I heard naves come out of like oh Biggie,
or you know, you hear ghosts in these cats, You're like, damn,
I gotta rhyme Andre three thousand. So I mean, but
I'm saying that at that time, that was always it,
and now I still enjoy that, like I'm hearing some

(12:00):
Kendrick or Earl sweatshirt.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
You know, I'm like, damn, I want to rhyme.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
But you know what, you know the thing with ll
if you really think about LLLL I called him one
of the foundin fault, right, he give you that early
and you would know this. Of course, the rhyme skills
and the Gilliens was a lot different, right. It was
more I don't want to say elementary, but it was
elementary sound versus and then it changed.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
With the nineties. Sound is more modern to even this.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
But the eighties was so he would LLL had to
teach himself how to do it a different way because
he would have sounded in the ages.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Still.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, So the fact that he had to do that
and had the knowledge to say, look, I can't go
like that means a lot that is. Do y'all ever
have to do that with the way you make beats?
Because some of the kicks in the stairs, when you
hear them old records, you'll be like, damn that sound old,
Like did you have.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
To don't I don't like?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I like, yeah, nage, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Classic? Anyway it sounds more.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Classic answer that. You know, I keep my ears tuned
to everything you even if I don't like it, you
know what I'm saying, I'm still listening. I'm like, Okay,
how could I incorporate what I do with this new way?
You know what I'm saying. And that's I've been working
on that, working on it, working on and then here
we are.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
And then when I hear it. There's certain new artists
that I want to hear on your production. The rhapsodies
I like him, the symbols, the Russell and Kendrick Cole Like,
I'm like, that's what something they need?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
That man, that would be like to hear them, dudes
on that you did something for Kendrick before Butterfly, But man,
to hear them dudes like the symbols and like you're saying.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Like, shout out to him, Man, these.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Beats, man, I feel like that's the combination. But that
the one thing what you said Envy that I feel
like I do hear sometimes is you could hear take
a producer from that it's started in the nineties, and
you can hear they sound and it still sound like
the nineties. The thing that Pete that I noticed was like, Man,
them snaires and kicks feel fresh, like it's something even

(13:55):
it could be a break that I've heard before, but
it's something about what he's doing to that break and
what he doing to that sample.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Even the scratches.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I was like, I was like, Man, Pele, I don't
know why, but these scratches feel fresh to me, and
they like we've been heard scratches on records, but it
was just I guess the rhythmic of it. I don't
know what you've done sonically.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
And sometimes I think of DJs like Jay Rock shout
out to beat junkies and Jay Rock and had him
scratch on on yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
And now when you heard the Drake and Kendrick Beef right,
that feel you to be like, I want to get
back into it, because you were the type that they
used to throw shots at you all the time. Shots back.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
That's what I do.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So did you feel like did he give you that
that that feeling of I want to jump back into this.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I didn't want to think about it. I didn't want
to get in the battle because that battle.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
But I was I was already enthused about writing, just
because I've been hearing like like I said, like whether
it was Cat sending me J Cole a freestyle or
just you know, the rhymes I was hearing. I'll be
going back listening to stuff we like, from Brand New
Being to you know, to Tribe.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I was listening to A Daylight a lot.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
So I was in the spirit of, like, man, I'm
going to write, and I'm gonna write. I'm referencing things
in the rhymes that ain't like I talk about stuff
that some people might not know, and that's what we
used to do in hip hop.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
So when I heard the battle.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I was more like man enthus and kind of like
what it was to me one of the greatest battles
that ever exists, the greatest.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I might have to agree. I do feel like because I've.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Been through some experiences and heard certain songs that means
so much to me that I probably ain't been able
to give it up. It's like when people be like
Lebron or Jordan's. You know, it's like, because I grown
up through Jordan's still, but I recognize that Lebron is
right there.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Chicago's get mad at me for saying that Ron is
right there.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
But that being said, I would say, if I'm just
being purely true, I do think it was the best battle.
But because of the back and forth that they and
the way they were delivering records and how great the
records were, and I want to say, as an MC
like that was a real battle. It wasn't like just
as soon as it started somebody had won. Drake was delivering,

(16:16):
and he was delivering, and then Kendrick just came and said, yo,
I got this, and and did deliver something just to
the greatest, not only this song songs and hip hop
to me, like meet the Grahams and and not like
us it's just classic songs. But I ain't Drake. Drake
was not like just sitting down. He was fighting. It

(16:37):
was a heavyweight fight. And I saw something you said, Charlemagne,
it was it was true, Like it was like obviously
the people that are like, oh yeah, you know that
ended Drake, that that really can't in the in the man,
you know, like you said, that was just allowed some
people to maybe feel whatever they were feeling, to say
what they wanted to feel about him. But that man

(16:57):
established a lot in his career and and people still
go go out and see him. Just in this battle,
Kendrick just prevails man and brought the people together. So
he just won.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
That's the party.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
And this might be a dumb question, but did you
really have the day dream or dreams that you described
on dreaming on the new album, because it sounds so vivid.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, I actually some of those dreams definitely happened.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And that's one of the things that for me, Like
people come to me in my dreams, especially like people
that have transitioned have left and passed on. Like that's
why I talk about my cousin Adela, who died in
a motorcycle accident in Brooklyn two thousand and nine. Yeah,
he come, Yeah, he actually used to ride motorcycles. Well,
but God bless his soul. Like and all these people,

(17:46):
doctor may Angelo, they have come to me in my dreams.
But this I was like, let me just be like,
because I've been in the MC space.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Like I was like, let me be.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Clever with it and talk about printing and talk about
these and just play with the words of it, but
also keep the spirit of like what dreaming is and
when people come to visit you in your dreams.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
Did y'all have a discussion about that? That inspired?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay? Because I told him, have comes to me in
my dream Troy comes to me in my dreams. You know,
everyone I lost, from family members to friends. You know
what I'm saying, they come to me. And I take
that as a sign and that they're watching me and
there got eyes on me.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, I feel like, you know, the ancestors speak to
us in different ways, and I definitely believe. And even
though I don't even always remember all those dreams, I
still like remember the visits. And then you know, for
me to talk about Nelson Mandela when prison couldn't break
them me And you know, when Malcolm's talking about Islama

(18:45):
Lakem here in the window saying Islama Lakem, I'm thinking
about that that by all means necessary, by any means necessary.
Picture where he was in the window like all those things. Man,
I was just I wanted to give it up for
people who've inspired me. It was almost like a tribute
to the ancestors, but in a good way. And not
everybody was gone either. Like y'all seen Bay, I'm talking,

(19:07):
I have.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Those same dreams. I just wonder what are they trying
to tell us? Are they just letting us know, Hey,
there's something else after this or move according to.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Feel I feel like I feel like like they definitely
are letting us know that something is, something else that exists,
is deeper than just this human level. And my mother
always be talking, man, she say a prayer to me
and be like, from the heavenly rams. So I feel
like from the heavenly roums that our ancestors can come
to us in our dreams. You know, that just may

(19:34):
be one way they communicate.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
You know the.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Record when you produce Troy right, what was the mindset
back then, because usually people didn't do records like that.
It was even hard records. It was club records, it
was party records, it was street records. But you did
a record as a reminisce, as a dedication record. What
was the mind framing? What was the labels feeling of
putting that record out of all because that's one of

(19:58):
the most classic records out there.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well, I'm gonna start off saying I was depressed. You know,
I was really depressed because you know, we lost on
a block general too. He was like, he taught me
how to fight, taught me this to me, and so
when we lost him, like, oh so when we lost him,
you know, the whole community was was was crazy. So

(20:22):
I went somehow found the strength to go dig through
records and I found this record and listened to the
whole thing. And when I listened to the whole thing,
I got emotional, start crying, and I said that was
a sign to say, yo, try to do something with this,
you know what I'm saying. And so that's what I did.
And I heard these elements in the song, and that

(20:42):
drove me to make the beat Man, you know what
I'm saying. And when I heard that, Sacks knew it
was it. That was it. I was like, no, hook, no, nothing,
just rocked that horn. Did cel have that that lyrics
already done?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Really?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
And he just all he did was like change a
few things, but he I can't. When I gave him
the bad Or. He had the lyrics, but he just
changed some few.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Things to come into the word trow.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
How did you feel when you first heard that acronym
that's like you reminisce over you.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
That was real clever of cl for him to come
up with that title. You know what I'm saying, That
was that was crazy to spell out my man's name
and how that title is. It's this magic was happening
for us, Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like everything
was coming together.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
And did the label want that record out at first
that they knew what it was because it was yep.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Because when we finished it, Charlie Brown was in the
studio a couple other homies and we listened to it
and we crying like this is I had to leave
the room, Bro, because the music was it was it was.
It was that touching.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
That song still does that to people, like people remember
their parents, their grandparents, their loved ones when that song
comes out. Remember so we hear that he like Jesus.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
And we're thirty three years old.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
And he'll being talked about it. Marvel Dad, I'm grateful.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
For you know, we don't give you credit for to
p rock Man always putting dark Skin brothers in the
pop that title Come on, come on?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Can you.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
At some point?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Coming?

Speaker 5 (22:25):
You know what I don't give you back?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Then you can't live? Can we leave heavy?

Speaker 2 (22:48):
He was very talented and coming up with names. He
gave his name, gave Pete, gave me well his brother,
my cousin, Floyd, gave me Pete Rock. And he have
taught me a lot about like bridges and songs, you know,
like just how to structure a song a hit song.
And then it stuck with me. You know what I'm

(23:10):
saying because he was the first one to notice my talents.
He was like, yo, you got something. But he's saying
to bring that.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Out, He's saying, who is still that that that black black,
like that black pride.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Like as a as a as a chocolate confidence?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
For me? Yeah, oh, I mean you know what I'm saying,
Like I had the talent, you know, you know I
thought I was decent looking as a as a black man. Yes,
I just rolled man.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, we come from that era. We come from the
black and proud you know, like even when I listened
to you know, on on a God, you know, like
you say that there's a god in the spirit of you,
And I was like, damn. You know, growing up we
had the five percent teachers. We constantly heard that, and
it felt good to hear it, because we don't hear that.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
No man man.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
The more and more I understand why we greet each
other as God like in peace when we say peace,
God like. I first received that just through hip hop
because of the five percent Nation and New Yorkers like
brought that to us and we were just saying it,
and I liked it.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Just because it felt good.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
But the more I understand how much God is in us,
it's like it should be said, and we need to
acknowledge that. And even you know, you can look in
the Bible and it talks about you know, the God,
that Christ being in you, you know, and you being
christ like or you know that we year are all God.
So I'm like, when you start putting together a lot
of thoughts about spirituality, almost all of them teach you

(24:34):
that the Creator is in you too, and you one
with the Creator. So I love that I got that
from hip hop and got even more of an understanding
because I grew up going to church, so got even
more of understanding what it is through you know through
putting that together, and now when if I'm at church
or if I'm around people who are like really like
into just religion, I still can approach them and express

(24:57):
to them to God and them.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
You know, you got a lie on that song you
said my testimony came from all the testing.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yes, on that a little bit. Man.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I feel like anything that really can talk about from
a pure and like a place that resonates it is
because I've experienced some things in life, and you know,
I experienced things like we all do with that human testing.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
That thing of going through.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Things is what allows us to really connect and and
that's why I could tell a story I didn't even know,
Like when I first started rapping up, I wrapped about
abortion in one of my songs early on, and this
dude came up to me and was like, man, I
decided to have my child because of your song Retrospect for.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Life with Lauren Hill.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
And my point is, like I was telling him that
was my testimony and me telling what I had been through,
and it affected him enough to make a decision with
his wife to have a child. And I'm just saying, like, man,
we got to go through things to have a testimony
that that really means something and resonates. I ain't saying

(26:08):
you go out there to try to suffer, but you know,
life gives you things, and it's the way we deal
with it and overcome it and move through it, and.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
What builds character that will allow us to be Like Yo.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
When I'm sitting down with people, they listen because they
know I've been through something, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
So that's the testimony.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Do y'all think people respect the legacies that you two
guys have put out? Like I look at other genres
of music, right, and they respect the elder men right,
the young to the old right. And I'm just remembering
as the best thing about it is, I was such
a young DJ that didn't know too many people. So
I remember getting the common Wax. I remember getting the
record it said remixed by Pete Rock, and I remember

(26:48):
what that feeling meant. I remember when no disrespect to
run DMC, where they fell off a little bit and
then they did down with the kids, and I remember
all of that. Do you think people understand the legacy
that you guys have built and put into this game?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
We would want them to understand because we put a
lot of hard work into you know, because when they
when I didn't run the MC, you know what I'm saying,
It was like, Damn, I'm gonna bring these dudes back.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
They were trying to come back, that nothing was hitting
for them.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, and then I had to convince Russell and Lea
and that I could do this. I'm the man for this,
and then had Jams j with me. He came to
my crib. We worked on it and got what we got.
So hopefully that's a story that they could listen to
and learn from and understand the legacy of what we
did to make it what it is today. And so

(27:39):
even the video, everybody was in it.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
It was one of the most videos. Yes, sir, Easy.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Easy, he was in it. Rest in peace.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
You know what that.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Record work because they weren't trying to be anything except
for what they were at the time, which was Kings
of the Game. Yes, forefathers of the game.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
You know, I was I was in the clouds because
I couldn't believe I just did this, you know what
I'm saying, Like brought them back from what was the album?
Back from hell was the I'm that.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
They weren't messing with each other at the time it was.
It was thinking, I just remember that.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
And who wrote that?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I think, did you write that for?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Who wrote that?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Somebody for for Down to King?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah, that's the album was Down with the King.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, but as far as writing, I have no idea.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Somebody wrote that from wrong?

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Yeah, you don't want to go back to honor God
because you know you got Jennifer Jennifer Hudson on the record.
How is it asking your lady for a future? And
does she charge you?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, let me say this, it was definitely.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
It kind of just came pure because I was playing
the record and I had the rhyme and Peter sent
me the beat and I loved this beat and then
I thought it was Aretha Franklin, a sample from Aretha Franklin.
And I asked p and he like, na, that ain't
Aretha Franklin. And Jennifer heard and it was like, man,
that is incredible, Like that's out of all the beats

(28:59):
I was playing, and She's like, that's that's my favorite, right,
and it's just man. I was like, damn, this kind
of give you that soul for Wretha. Jennifer played a
wreatha in a movie and I can tell she was
inspired by it.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
I was like, yo, I'm I'm gonna get her to
sing on it.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
But I first, after you know, I had the verses
in the subject matter. I wanted PJ, who is an
incredible artist and writer. PJ is super dope.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, she's from North Carolina. It's just super dope. But
I had her write the hook. And then also I
was like, I want Jennifer to sing kind of what
the sample is doing.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
And I was like, what's up? You want to do that?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
She was like yes, yes because she was excited to
do it. And uh, you know, ain't no charge. It
to be a fair exchange, I'll do do something.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know, no.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I give you.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You know, I want to ask to you know, how
do you deal with the criticism? Like you you you've
dated women in the industry that was and sometimes people.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Go at them.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
How do you deal with that? Being their man? But
you also know that this is the entertainment world.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Yeah, man, I try to do my best. Do my
best too.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
When I'm like in a relationship, a partnership that is
with somebody public which has happened up, it's I just
try to make sure we stay as sacred as possible
with us, and like I try to build, make sure
we build together and have our own like foundation, because
once people start talking, it can it can distract you,

(30:31):
it can get you off, it could discourage you. But
if you got the foundation and know what y'all purpose
to do, you know, And that's I guess any relationship.
But for me, that's what's been like dealing with the
publicity of the stuff. And you know, you feel something
if somebody attacking somebody you care about, you love, you
want to you're gonna defend them.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
You want to defend them.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
But you know, I try not to get caught up
too much into what people talking about the relationship, especially
if it ain't true, and if it is true that
it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Supposed to be out there like that. So we got
to result at within the house.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Like if somebody criticizes her show, for instance, right and
then you got to do an interview, it's like it.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Got her colm and got a great roster.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I would never talk about it, like, you know, so
how do you deal with that because you might just
want to say, you know what, I ain't like what
he said. I'm gonna talk to him later on so
how do you deal with that? But then you also know,
like this is the entertainment industry and I gotta let

(31:31):
it go. But people, you know, I always say people
sometimes people think common is sweet, right, and I know
common and sweet.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
On stage and then walked in the crowd smack somebody
and did not stop freestyle.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
That was back there, like we said, light skinning, just
go back down.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
How do you deal with that part of it now?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
But for me, man, like when people criticize your work, man,
you can't really take that too personal.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Like I get criticized all the time.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
You know, I got called out for wearing crochet, you know,
like I just you got to know who you are,
and like if you put out like I put out music,
people like, man, this what is this?

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Like I can't take that personal. So I apply that
with her.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like if somebody's talking about her show, they don't like
the show, I understand, you know, that's what they that's
what they feel. But if somebody get in disrespect her space,
that's a different thing. Like just like it's different than
criticizing on you know, the work we do than it
is like disrespecting the space of a person. So that's

(32:46):
how I feel, but the show is doing excellent, bro,
So I'm happy for her and I'm grateful she on
the hood.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
How do you feel when you look back at the
Electric Circus Time come? Because I think about like, you know,
people ask the lots about the shiny suit. What do
you look when you look at Circus Time? What do
you think?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
I think?

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I think Electric Circuits was like it was a big
step from my career in a way that those people
didn't receive it at that time. You know, as an artist,
you gotta go places just out of courage and being
truthful with where you are to have a career in
a way, because if I kept doing the same thing
after a certain period, people are like, Okay, that's just

(33:24):
the same thing.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
But because because I've had.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like the ups and downs and it's not been always
accepted or popular, I think people will understand that that's the.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Ebbs and flows of life.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
And I look at you know, sometimes people come to
me about that album and be like that's my favorite
album you did or or they felt they'll be like, man,
that album grew on me eventually. I remember Primo told
me that, like we was on tour Gang Start. He
was like you know, I ain't like that album, but
when you started performing it, I was into it. And
I feel like sometimes that's what art is. Everybody ain't

(33:57):
gonna love it. At one point, I used to didn't
like Jimmy Hendricks. My cousin used to play them and
I'll be like, man, why you playing this? Don't be
playing that? And then eventually like I'm working at Jimmy
Hendrick studio, I'm listening to Jimmy Hendrick's music and I'm like, yo,
this John is amazing. See he got some amazing music.
So I feel like some people can grow into it.
Some people will never like it. I was a mere quest.

(34:18):
Love hit me about a few years ago when they
put it as one of the best like albums that
was underrated and blah blah blah. Like see, I told
you so, you just gotta you just gotta put music,
put the music out that you truly feel.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Well.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
I was talking more about the clothes, because you brought
it to Crochet. What did the Queen Eric Well? I
heard that had you dressing like that? Because I love
when the internet, this new era finds old stuff and
that's what they.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Say, well, see this is this is the thing Erica
is very influential, but not influential enough to say, dressed
like this and I.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Would do it. I'm a man like, I'm I'm gonna
put on what I like. Everybody may like as they want.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
When your lady be like, oh you look good, feel
good about that. But I am not going to my
lady like is this one right?

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Or that?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I mean, I might ask that, but nobody's gonna say, yo,
where this wear this? And and she you know, that's
a powerful woman. She's amazing, incredible human being too and
just man, just one of the greatest. But as far
as dressing me, no.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Not the record I love when the new album the
Auditorium Shytown do it? Wow, are you talking about an
actual woman or is that a love letter to the city,
because because in a way, the whole album feels like
a love letter to Chicago. But on that particular song,
is that a real woman or the Chicago?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I mean, I'm actually going between a particular woman and
just like just rhyming and and it is love to Chicago.
I kind of felt like within the writing of it,
I wanted to do all those things. And I'm glad
you said that because it was the album for me
does have the love letter to Chicago and a love
letter to hip hop the way we love and with

(36:00):
Pete being from New York me being from the shop,
I'm like, man, I got.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
To bring my Chicago to Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Oh yeah, he had yeah originally on that on that
record he had he had simple being saying Brooklyn, do
it Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
I was like, Pete, I love Brooklyn. I love Brooklyn,
New York York. You know I live in Brooklyn. But
now bro I'm representing Chicago all day. So there that
is a love letter to to Chicago. But also like
I'm kind of referencing a woman like, you know, like

(36:35):
she knew me from the city, knew I was witty,
knew I had power and maybe some sense lie fitty.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah, how do you how do you tap into that
Chicago energy all these years later? You know you've been
all over the world. How do you tap into that energy?

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Man?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
You know I used to go I used to like
because when I first moved from Chicago moved to New York,
then I would be New York l A and go home.
I used to just go home, rent cards and just
go around to be with my homies, like just let's
sit down and watch the game, Let's go to this bar,
let's do it like That's what I did in the
in the early two thousands. Now in my life, I

(37:10):
got so many things going on there. I got a
school called Art in Motion in Chicago, which is an
art school, and then I also had a Common Ground Foundation,
and we got something called Free to Dream. All those
things are happening. But to be I'm gonna be real
real with you, Like having a lady that's from Chicago
allow me to go home and just be home, and

(37:33):
I hadn't did that in a while, where I was
just like going home and just being around my loved
ones and didn't have no work to do, and that, man,
ain't gonna front. That helped me with this album because
just going to your roots, you gotta always like recharge.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
And replug and plug into them roots.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
No matter how much you've elevated, you still gotta go
to them roots. And just I mean, to me, growth
is about starting and growing from the roots. So me
going back to Chicago all these times just for regular shit,
it just, man, just helped me stay rooted in what
I do and who I am. I'm referencing certain Chicago things,
And I'm like, that's what I used to do. That's
what I did on Resurrection. That's what I did. I

(38:12):
wasn't trying to like because I seen the world. I
wasn't because I seen the world. I was referencing other things.
But to be able to go back home and reference things.
We used to do that a lot of hip hop.
That's how I knew what Queens was about because what
Nives was talking about. I knew what what Brooklyn was about,
because what Jay and Biggie was talking about. Knew what
Hollan was talking was about because of your dim set

(38:33):
and all them guys. So yeah, so I feel like
that's what I wanted to give to Chicago. Again.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
That sounds like you might get married. Like that sound
like you're building a real foundation.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I mean, listen, I mean this is definitely with all
due respect to all the women I've dated, you know,
because they all it's all love. But this is a
really healthy and beautiful relationship, bro. And like I'm just
doing my best key God first and communicating. Taking all
the stuff I've learned as a as a human being,

(39:06):
the failures I've had in relationships from on my responsibility.
I'm taking that, learning from that, growing from it, using
all the therapy, all the all the you know, understanding
that man, let me enjoy moments. And also this life
is about trying to not trying, but creating happiness and

(39:26):
creating joy and creating love and and like embracing the
grace that exists.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
So this is somebody and it's something man.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
You kind of when you're with somebody who's from where
you're from, it's a different kind of connection to that's
that's something else.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
But I mean, she's from where I'm from.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Spiritually, she's from where I'm from from like from where
we geographically come from the shot and you know, just
from where I'm from as a person.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Like one of the.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Things that I felt was before we even started was together.
We were doing this movie and this security guard said
to me, he was I came to the set. He
was like, man, you and Jennifer Husson two are the
coolest celebrities I ever met.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Man.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I was like, for real, He's like, no, y'all real cool.
And he was like, she just bought this ice cream
for all these people here on the set. And I
was like, man, I just like people to treat people good.
That's probably home too for me. So yeah, I mean
she is she she there.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
You seem the happiest.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
You want to get mad? Sounds like to me.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I mean, if I'm going to get married, it's to her. Wow,
that's simple as that.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
And I see Pete Rock smiling every time you talk
about her.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
You might know something we don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I don't know. I don't like it. I like it
to see them, you know what I'm saying together If
it makes me feel good.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Talk to me about the three wise men that visited
you visited you on the record?

Speaker 4 (40:49):
Wise up?

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Who do those three wise men represent?

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I was really when I wrote that, I was thinking,
three wise men came to visit where I've been. They
brought gifts with the south Side blend. I wanted these
wise men to have like all the the godly attributes
that you hear about three wise men.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I wanted them like because I mean, I really was
writing that because a lot of people that I've met
that are some of the most enlightened and spiritual people
are real niggas, you know, and they real people, real men,
real black real women. And I was like, man, it's
depth to these human beings. So I wanted the wise

(41:33):
men to not be perfect. One of the things I
feel like I'm a big I'm heavy into like New
Testament scriptures, so like I don't read that and just
be like, oh man, these people weren't human beings. And
I wanted to bring the humanity to three wise men,
like these are people. They be bringing me Hennessy and
bringing the wisdom, you know, and bringing the scrolls and

(41:55):
telling me yo, and that I said. The third gave
a mirror and told me to remember me. He's just
telling me, y'all, remember who you are. This mirror I'm
giving you so you can remember who you are.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I felt that was important for that, So I just
made that Hennessy. I reference Hendency. On another one, there's
a guy with like, well, I can I enter the
gates of heaven smelling like Hennessy, So Hennessy, Hennessy might
as well respond to me, what's up that happen?

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Listen, Pete, you know this is a very vintage, you
know sounding album, even the length of the records, right,
and it's the verses and joints verse. Did either one
of you ever think you know, maybe we should shorten
the records to be like this new era. I'm glad
y'all didn't, but that of a cross your mind in the.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
Studio, it's usually now we noticed that it's like people
when they're making records, it's really only two verses, too
many fifty second records, right, But when it's a group,
you may here more than two versus.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
But I think it was just two verses and we did.
You did three on on this Man's Arms, a couple
of couple of joints, choice Loansome. But it's now it's like,
that's that's what we did. We have a choice now
to me, two or three.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I think, man and making songs like you gotta just
go with the feeling like James Brown.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
And was just boom. Them records was long.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
And then some of them super hits from the Motown
was like two minute records. Like when I'm writing verses,
I'm like this, this song don't need to be that long.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
So I kind of we approached more than anything.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
I believe when we was making this album, we was like,
let's make something that we really feel like, man, god
in this music, Let's create that's let's just create and receive.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
That, and then I ain't on front.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
I was like thinking about albums like only Built for
Cuban Links, or or thinking about like Midnight Marauders and
Maine and Greedy and the Balloon Mind stayed paid in full,
like I want album Illmatic obviously albums that I was like,
let's make an album where people can listen to the
whole album and it got a sound and we hope
that it could be classified as a new classes.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Well, hip hop all rules, absolutely yes, because James Brown
said like they were rules to the music business right,
or to music or how to make music, and he
mentioned like Beethoven and all them type of dudes, and
he said he defied all of that because they were
following the rules. He wasn't. And so you know, in

(44:25):
hip hop, I feel like we're just doing what we want,
what feels good to us. You know what I'm saying,
whether it's two verses, sometimes you hear one long verse
and the record is over, you know what I'm saying
with a little bit of a hook, and you know
it's free. You know this, this hip hop shit is
like free.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I got a hip hop head record SEEO Smooth and
Pete rock. Whatever happened to the group.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
To scrolling Pains? Man? You know, with two different.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
People, y'are cool with each other.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Now, well, I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I never seen y'all perform together. And I always said, damn,
that would be for Fitty. The year Annivers read Everybody
coming Back, I was like, it would be amazing to
see Troy on stage.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Sule or I feel the same way. But you know,
some things just can't happen. You know, it is what
it is. It's not It's just life, bro, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
I just got a couple more questions. You only got
one rap feature on this project, and that's that's a
pause plug one from Daylight. Why why is that?

Speaker 4 (45:22):
Man?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Initially I was like, man, Peter, I don't want to
know features. I want to do like well rock Kim
them did like they or you know, like I said,
e Matic had one feature, but I was like, it
didn't feel like we I feel like we had created
a sound. Well, I didn't want any features. I was like,
this is this is a sound. Let's do what we
do it. Yeah, But but what happened is that the

(45:48):
song that prostitutes from dey La Soul is O was
featured and he blessed the verse man, and like, first
of all, you know day from Dayla Soul, True Go
Ahead passed recently, rest in peace, God bless it.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
So so they they were kind of hovering, like you know.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Daylight was one of the first groups that embraced me
and they put me on a record called The Business
and that was like life changing for me. So that's
my family. I was staying at Mace's crib. This this
is my family. So I when they when Dave died,
it kind of it hit me. And and I was
also listening to a lot of Daylight and that was
inspiring me too because they just always been free with

(46:24):
their music. But so we we basically almost done with
the album. But the song that posted news is on Pete.
Pete had created the beat, but at one point it
was day Lives Beat. It was Daylight. They were working
on the album together that that Pete and Primo was
producing for Daylight.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Wow yeah yeah yeah, And Dave passed. So Pete sent
me to be and he was like, man, this is
this is day Lives Beat. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
I just ended up writing to it and I had
I got the hooked idea to it and I need
And then so when we were about to master the album,
I like, Pete, we gotta we got to talk to
Pas and and Paz was like, man that' said I
beat man.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
We that's daylight beating.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
I was like, damn, I'm gono have to get this
song of people like I'm gonna make you another one.
I was like, damn, it ain't gonna beat this beat.
And then and then five minutes later, Pete hit me
and said, pa said you could hide to beat. I said, nah,
let me call Pas. I called him and he said, Yo, rosh,
you could hide to beat, bro, And I was like nah.
He was like, I want if it's anybody putting that
music out there, we want you out there with it

(47:35):
so you can hide to beat.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
And I was like, no, I want you on this song.
And then he was like yo, I'm down. Like he was.
He was actually about to leave New York to go
do something.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
He went in the studio that wrote that night, went
in the next morning and blessed it. So it was
kind of like a divine order that he was that
he was the MC that was gonna be on the album.
Pase because they, like I said, they influenced me a
lot and influenced the album.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
How far on the road did y'all get with the Daylight?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
What they had at least two beats that they were
writing too positive tell you like you know? And Dave
was the one that was like that one, yeah, and
you know, and then picked another beat and then picked
that one.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
That we have. Yeah, yo, they I think.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
To be honest, I think y'all got because Poss played
me at least about four or five joints that y'all
got this crazy.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
I'm just remembering the ones that they really went crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, I gave him like six seven beats.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
That's like one of them hip hop?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
What is? You know?

Speaker 6 (48:35):
I'm a Marvel guy, so what if?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
You know?

Speaker 6 (48:38):
What if? What if you don't pass? And we get
the Daylight? And produced by Premiere and Pete Rock.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Oh my god, I was doing half he's doing you
know here here big Marvel dude, Like I got to
put that up without the new cap coming and that
I'm waiting for that.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
Oh I can't wait for that. That got me my
last question. You know, we saw Meth recently. He said
that he realized that there's a generation gap is just
too wide for him. He don't want to perform at
Summer Gym no more. You just felt like the crowd
was too young at certain concerts, young to certain concerts.
Do y'all feel that way? And do you feel like
there's not a home for OG's and hip hop as

(49:19):
far as not even just performing a radio as well?

Speaker 4 (49:22):
I don't feel that way.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I feel that, like man, music can prevail over any age.
Like I was listening to Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder
as a kid.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
I wasn't thinking about how old they were. I just
loved the music.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
And my first concert was the Jacksons and I was
eight years old watching them Wow.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
And my point is.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I think we if we deliver the music that can
touch them, they will respond.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
And I'm a believer. Man.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I love doing shows where people don't be really feeling
me and I win them over. I didn't seen people
frowning up at me and like like this dude, and
then I'm like.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Yo, let me.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I'm you know, I like to work the crowd like
and work them to so they do believe. So I mean,
first of all, I met anybody need to respond to
myth man them songs he got.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's my god, shout out to me.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, wedding, So I dance with my wedding. Come on, bro,
that's what I'm so so. I mean, I think the
one good thing is that I feel like a lot
of that music is coming around again to the to
the youngest. I remember doing the thing at Prairie State
in Texas and it's your shorty had on low End
Theory so hoodie.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I was like, yo, I said, what you know about that?
He's like, man, it's my favorite album, low End Theory.
Trying and call question. I said, how did you? He
said nineteen. I was like, yo, he taught this stuff?
Yeah he I mean, whoever introduced him? That's that's his
music though. Now, so, I feel like if we deliver
music that has that soul at that time listeners, young

(51:00):
people will respond, old people respond, people will respond if you're.

Speaker 6 (51:04):
Looking for that the auditorium, vonn one is out right.
Now let's go. I'm in a pete rock.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Let's play a joint off there which I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Which first, Let's let's hear Fortunate Man the Sunshine again.
Let's get it.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
We appreciate you brother, all right, no problem, but thank
y'all for joining us. Pick up the album right now,
The Auditory and Volume one is out right now. Com
and Pete Rock. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake
that ass up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
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