INTERVIEW: Ferg Talks ‘DAROLD,’ Therapy, Writing ‘Pool,’ KDot, Yams, Young Thug, Denzel Curry + More
November 12, 2024 • 43 mins
The Breakfast Club Sits Down With Ferg To Discuss ‘DAROLD,’ Therapy, Writing ‘Pool,’ KDot, Yams, Young Thug, Denzel Curry. Listen For More!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club, Morning, everybody in stej en Vy, Jesse, Hilarrys Charlamage,
the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got a
special gainst in the building. Babies and gentleman firs.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Off feeling So no more a safer Uh, it's still
a SAPs on my chest. Okay, Sappers forever. I'm always
striving and prospering. But Ferg is like, you know, did
he change his name? It's a funny name. It's a
funny title to bring up Diddy, right, It's like, but
you know it happened. Yeah, did he changed his name
(00:37):
a few times? And it represented different eras of his career.
And That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Just your baby oil Era.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Did listen, I'm I'm Diddy is my family and I
love his family. I don't know all of what's going
on with this case and everything like that. And it's
a bunch of hare to say. Really, it's like a
thousand bottles of baby or what that has to do
anything with him being a bad man. So yeah, he
just a rich man with a bunch of baby.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you didn't say this is a new I guess
new energy in your life right now to take the
A SAP off. So what what is the difference? Is
it a crew? Was it more individual?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Is it? Well?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I feel like a SAP puts me in group think.
You know what I'm saying. You think about the era,
the which is a golden era, you know what I'm saying.
Like we changed the game, and it's just like for
me to change the game a whole other way and
in an individual way now, Like I was known for
being Ferg my whole life, Like I met Rocky as Ferg,
(01:41):
I met yams Is Ferg. And then like when we
came together as a group effort, we all changed our
name to a SAP for like how bone thus god,
you know, a lazy bone, crazy bone, flesh and bone.
We just basically took our last names and put them
last and put a SAP as our first. So it's
just a new era.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So earlier this year with people from the A Sad
Mob saying that you were no longer a part of
A Sad.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Mom, Yeah, ils L said that and he took that
that quote back, like we talked about it and hashed
it and all of that stuff. But yeah it was
and Bari they said that, But my whole thing is like, uh,
you know, when you're doing great, that's what it comes with.
You know, people you feel some type of way. And
(02:26):
I didn't do anything to anybody.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So yeah, is the mob so close as they used
to be?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Uh close as they used to be? I would say
that me and Rocky we talked every now and then
and I always check on as well being. But we're
so busy just doing our own thing. He got two
kids and he's making music and got his career. This
(02:51):
is exactly going the way we wanted it to go. Like,
you know, I got my land over here, you got
your island over here. We big pillars, and then when
we come together, it's just like it just gets crazy.
So as far as like as close as we used
to be, no, because we used to basically live with
each other because we used to be on tour together.
But as far as love, like I love my brother
(03:12):
to death like I would. I always want to see
my brother do great, and I love what he's doing.
And yeah, all my brothers, you know, even Ils and Bari.
Like with the whole thing, it just I always say
that people handle fame differently like Yams he handled it
the way he handled it and it cost him his life.
(03:33):
And it's a lot of access, and you know, it
makes people act different. We don't know, Like I don't
I know these people and these guys from a point
like when I met them, they was already like teenagers
or like young adults. I don't know what happened to
(03:54):
them in their life before that. So what shapes and
molds these people and they they uh younger years or
as young men, don't I don't know what it was
like in their household or whatever. So when we get
the fame and the fortune and all of that, everybody's
gonna react different.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, where you've been at though you've been a little
quiet last I've been cooking.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, cooking. Yeah, Like you know, we in a game
where it's like everything is so quick, so quick. I
never believed in like rushing my process for money, Like
I feel like I've done that. I've like hustled. I
feel like after I dropped Traplo on my album, like
(04:36):
the time and effort it took me to create that album,
which it took my whole life to create that album,
because up until that point, I was just living it
and I created an album so I had mad life
to talk about on that one album. After that, it's
just like chasing a hit. But now you're listening to
the label YO, put out this, put out that because Yo,
this works for radio boom, and then it's like, I mean,
(05:00):
I got mad hit records, not saying that that's enough,
but for me, it wasn't enough. Like I wanted to
like really figure out what I wanted to say, because
you know, when you realize you got a voice, you
can really make a lot of movement and you want to,
you know, as a thirty six year old man, you
want to create purpose and have purpose driven moves. So
(05:24):
that's what I wanted to figure out, Like, all right,
you know I did that. That shit was fun, But
where am I going now? Like how am I going
to lead to people or what am I saying to
the kids? So that's what I had to figure out,
Like I wanted to grow as a person so the
music could evolve.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, the name of the album is Darryl. Yeah, No,
why Daryl Because it seems like it's almost like you're
going back to the origin of yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I feel like I was running. I was running for
myself for a long time. Like my father was such
a great man. Like I'm not sure if you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Heard the legend.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, you know Dferg Deferg family, Like it's a whole
family of us. T Ferg. They know him. That's my uncle,
that's always with me. Deferg, my dad. You got Kim Ferg,
Mama Ferg. Kim Ferg used to dance with Teddy Riley
and you know she used to be with this crew
called the Gucci Girls with Dapadan. They're like all of
(06:13):
their outfits and stuff. So I come from a whole
lineage of Fergs. And then now it's just going back
to the basics and going back to my roots because
I feel like I never gave the world at I
only gave y'all, mobbin. I never gave y'all an individual.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You know, on a live you said, let me go
to therapy and I'll be right back. So have you
really been going to therapy?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah? I went to therapy for three years, Like after
the It's a song I got called Pool where I
talk about my hiatus, and I went to therapy after
you know, during the mad Man to it that's like
playing Jane is going crazy. I'm doing one hundred and
fifty people meeting greet. I'm changing my outfits twice twice
(06:57):
a show. I'm like just really trying to like I'm
trying to take it there, and I'm taking it there.
Like at that time, I'm the face of Tiffany's first
black person and artist rapper to be the face of Tiffany's. Also,
I had a Hennessy deal, I did a deal Revlon deal,
(07:17):
Like it's going crazy. And I think that, like with
all of these things that I was doing, it really
just bodied me, cause it like it it bodied me
in a good way. Though it broke me into a
new me because I was like, damn, what am I
actually trying to reach? And then when I would like
look at artists that like just keep trying to go,
(07:40):
go go, go, go, go go, and I'm like, what
are they trying to reach? Because like escape or trying
to escape, And then I had to ask myself that question,
like what am I trying to reach? Like when is
it enough? And also I want to experience peace, Like
I don't want to have to keep being addicted to working,
(08:01):
you know what I'm saying. So and I didn't know
if I was addicted to working, but I just I was.
I was in you know, when you're coming out the hood,
and I'm pretty sure you guys came from, you know,
a place where like you had to kind of fight
to get out of there, and then it has to
become a time where it's like you realize you're not
in that fight anymore. And that's what happened. I realized
(08:22):
that I'm not like in Harlem, no more like fighting
to get out of this place. So I had to
like change my perspective. I had to get around other
people that had things to realize, like, all right, I'm
not the only one going through this. You know.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's interesting reason I asked you that is because you know,
a lot of times when you first start going to therapy,
it's not about what you're learning about yourself, is what
you're unlearning, And in a lot of ways, that really
does impact your creativity because you're like, well, who the
hell am I I'm trying to figure you got to
try to figure yourself out all over again. Was that
one of the reasons for the hiatus with the music too?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Uh? I think it's just growing. I think it's growing.
We call it a hiatus, but it's like that was
normal back in the time where like Biggie and Tupac,
Biggie had like four years like he dropped ready to
Die and then he came with Life After Death and
that's all we got from him after that. Like Lauren
(09:17):
Hill dropped one album and then dropped like a joint
with the fujis. These is real writers. Kendrick took five
years off to like, you know, write his album. So
when you putting purpose into music, it is not just
about making the world go like this, Like like I
could do that all day, but like, all right, How'm
gonna make the world go like this to the bpm?
(09:40):
But also when a motherfucker come off the high or
the liquor and they're driving back home and they sobered up,
how can you make it hit they soul still? So
that's me. I've always been a person that wanted to
put the medicine into music because I do believe that
music is a spiritual thing. You know, music we used
(10:01):
to sing songs to, like you know, uh and slavery.
We used to sing song to like tell you how
to get out of there, like yo, you gotta go
to the river and then you gotta get on the
boat and then because Master not picking up on the
slang and a swag and all of that. So you
know that that is That's what I do as an artist.
(10:23):
I figure out how to communicate to my culture what
we're doing next.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, you were very vulnerable on this album. Yes, knowing
you for a long time, you've been pretty quiet, like
you know, you don't really put your business out there.
So how were you able to be so vulnerable and
how difficult was it for you? I thought it was
like cool to be vulnerable. I thought it was cool
to be.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I talked to the ancestors came through. Nah, I thought
it was cool to be vulnerable because we're in the
town where being vulnerable, if you can be vulnerable is
cool because the kids they put everything out there. And
at first I thought that was kind of like crazy,
But then when I like really got hip to like
what's happening, it's a shift in culture where it's like
(11:15):
it's a lot of information being put out to us.
We got Hulu, we got Netflix, we got YouTube, we
got all of these outlets, and you have to stand
out some type of way. We in a town where
it's like we're battling for attention span so it's like
the realist, like Real TV changed that, you know, real TV,
and then you have love and hip hop and now
(11:35):
you have straight up Instagram stories and reels and shit
like that. So in your music you have to be
honest because it's like, if you're not saying some honest shit,
I'm just gonna look at this dude's story and like
he's not even rapping, but this is more interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Did you were you at all worried about how vulnerable
you were gonna be pretty tragic things like that happened
to you as a kid.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, So, I mean it took me eight years to
write Pool, Like, it was three songs that I had
wrote to get to that point. So I wrote a
song called We Don't Judge and Chance the rappers on it.
I'm still put that out with Stacey Barth. And then
I wrote another song called Innocent Child, which was like
(12:27):
three different stories about three different I mean yeah, three
different stories about three different people. The last story was Mines,
and then I was just trying to refine, like and
then I linked up with my boy Kirby, who he designed.
He's the designer and owner Pierre Moss. I just love
his storytelling through his clothes and how he speaks to
the world. He kind of grabs the bull by the
(12:49):
horns and we got in the studio and he's just like, yo, bro,
like you itching towards it and you're scratching the surface
in this song, innocent child when you need to like
really just dive in and just go crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That you called it pool.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I called it pool because of so I got dr
I got Basically I went to, I don't want to
tell us the whole thing, yeah, but yeah, I want
you to go to listen to it because that's where
you'll get like the really finite detail of the song.
But basically, it was an incident that happened in the
pool when I was a young kid, and it's everybody's
(13:28):
around and everything like that, and you know, for me,
it was like weird. And then I was like and
it was like one second, but I'm like why, And
it just made me ask why. And I wanted to
basically create a piece of art that my kid could find,
all like kids could find and listen to it and
(13:52):
I'm still jiggy, I'm still this person or whatever, and
your and and let them know that like the things
that happened to you really happened for you. But the
things that happen to you can it's it's it doesn't
make it doesn't define us define exactly. So I was
like and then also I was thinking, like all these
(14:14):
rappers and people just be like, yo, we're on demon toime,
we on demon Time, And I'm like, when when has
that ever been cool? To be on demon times? Really?
Like that's like not cool, like to be on demon town,
Like we on Demon Time. People don't even know where
that energy comes from, Like you just took him by yo,
we on demon time. Yo. This is just is what
(14:35):
it is. And I understand because like I got homies
that's in it, Like so sometimes you forced to be
in it, But if you're not forced to be in it,
then it's like why you want to be on demon time?
Like we should be like wanting to help each other.
So yeah, that was just what I was creating that
song for. And you know a lot of people say
we do on Demon time, and they don't talk about
(14:55):
the demons, Like let's open this up, like let's let's
let's let's uh dissect what the demon is is, Like
let's sit at a table that's what hip hop is.
Hip hop is religion. Hip hop is our spirituality. Like
hip hop is this like if when this mic, when
the cameras is off and you know, we're going we're
(15:17):
giving each other file and shit like that, we're gonna
talk about this conversation like that's some real shit. Like
but while we can't talk about the real shit on
camera and have these discussions. Hip hop is a thing
that unites religions and kids. You know, there's Muslims and
Jewish people that's war on with each other. I went
to Jerusalem how to show I seen all of them
(15:37):
turning up together. I got back home like they letting
me have it on, Like this is how I knew
it was a problem because I'm not knowing like I'm
making music but like I'm not knowing that I did
something like powerful. But like when I get back home,
I check on my DM, They're like, yo, how you
gonna perform for the Muslims? How are you gonna perform
for the Jews? Da da da da da? And I'm like, yo,
(15:58):
the kids don't want to fight. The kids want to
like unite. The kids want to see the light.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
The kids are caught up in something bigger than them,
something that's been going on longer than.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Them exactly, but like who's really having that conversation? Like
why are we not having that conversation? Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Was it difficult depend the right the words for pool?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Is that why it took eight years because just being
just publicly addressing you know, what happened to you. You know,
it's hard to address moleftation period, but also with his
molestation from the same sex.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
With First of all, I just had the I was
looking at the the news that you put out the
other day, and then I had to like research molestation
and like malestation sounds so crazy to me, Like it's like, oh,
like you know, it could vary, like what molestation is
regardless of what it is, it can like how old
(16:51):
were you? I was nine years old? How old was
the person? The person was way older than me because.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
He was I used to think this I got b
left by I read I seen you look at it
the same way.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Like did you think it the worse when you think.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, it's like you got different levels, like you know
I was touched. Like to be clear, like you know,
it doesn't make it no different because you know everything affects.
I was like groped basically, and I just found it
weird because it's another dude.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Like absolutely, like what there scared?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That weird? Like you, yeah, were you.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Scared to tell your family because your family comes from
the street. I know you said you told your cousin
when you're scared because you knew that if your family
found out.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I told my cousin because he was my age and
I didn't want to I didn't want to feel weird,
like I'm holding this thing to myself, so I had
to tell somebody. And then years later I told my
mom after seeing a precious movie and then people was
like standing up. We went to I don't know we've
seen like a you went to like a premiere of
the precious movie and people was like standing up and
(17:58):
telling these stories after that thing. And then I told
her like on the train, and she was just like
what for real? When I'm sorry? Like she just felt
like a bad mom. But like you know, we in
the hood, we going to the pool, we're going to
the park. You just never know, like wirdows could just
creep up in the mix and you can't hold your
(18:20):
kid by you twenty four seven, like, so that's a
and then the hood, I mean, and then not just
in the hood, everywhere. I feel like this shit is
going on and people not gonna talk about it, and
I'm like, yo, what am I talking about? Like I
didn't make that happen to me, like like that shit
ain't mine to like be trying to hold inside, like.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And it's powerful that you're sharing it. There's a lot
of brothers.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I think the only other person that you've heard talk
about that in rap was Common No Common, and then
Jel Curry over there.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
People say that Kendrick said something about it, but I
think that was about his mom.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, he has a song on his album, The Big Steppers.
Is it called the Big Steppers? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Did you and have those conversations when y'all recording demas?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Nah? I didn't even tell him what to write about.
I actually that was the last song because that was
just me by myself at first, and then I was like,
how can I turn this up? But he heard the context,
like me and him have like a telepathy that like
we don't have to talk to each other to know
what it is. So he got it and he understood
(19:32):
the assignment.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
How did y'all end up piecing up? I know y'all
had like a little beef.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I never had beef for him. I'm like, I'm not
the beef type person, like I'd rather like I'm not.
I just don't have to talk to you. What we
beef before?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
How did y'all connect with that? After that? Though?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I took Denzel on tour on mad Man Tour. Was
it was on the first wing. It was Playboy CARTI
and somebody else. Oh, I think it was I DK
and I had like I had came off tour during
that time because I was just mentally and physically drank,
and then I came back on and then I think
(20:11):
he came on for the second wing. But me and
Denzel always been cool, like super cool. We were the
type of dudes talking like I don't know what they're doing,
like they're tripping. But yeah, that's my buddy, Like I
loved this, He's my favorite rapper.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, you said, is it hard to have these conversations? Could?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I could always think about, you know, when you're sharing
so much of yourself and you're being so vulnerable about
certain things, but then you do got to go out
here and do interviews and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Is it hard to have those conversations.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, I just think that it's it could be challenging
on how to uh because you know, you get ridiculed
and all of that stuff, and people love to take
sound bites and take it out of term and I
have to be cool with that. But I think that's
really on how I convey it, Like that's what I
(21:01):
focused on. Like I thought about this interview like months
before I got here. Yeah, I'm like, cause I'm gonna
I knew I was gonna have to talk about this stuff.
So it's just like, how do I talk about it?
And you know, this is not, first of all easy,
you don't hear this is like the first type shit,
like like somebody talk about this this open you get
(21:23):
what I'm saying. I'm like leading the pack for a
new way right now, like and it's not easy. So yeah,
it's like it's gonna come out the way and come out.
But I just try to figure out, like, all right,
how can I best you know, paint the picture exactly
the way it is in my mind?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
And then coming from Harlem, which is the pause capital
you even have that conversation without somebody.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm grown like, yeah, like that's that's neither here nor there,
like you know, and yeah, pause, like it's still paused.
Like my gay friends say paused.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
They gotta be fami. I feel like the only gay
niggas that say paused.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you said that you feel
like you should be in the conversations when it comes
to Kendrick Lamar, J Cole and Drake. Then somebody would say,
but it takes you too damn long.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
To put out a project. That's what we do.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
What was your mindset behind I thought I was dead.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They thought I was dead. I never thought I was dead.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Okay, well tell me that the mindset behind.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That, The mindset behind that was the l's comment. You
know what I'm saying. He said I was a you know,
I was burnt out, trapped, little can't get it right.
I remember that. I remember that so vivid.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You there, You're the most active from.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It for me, musmusically, musically, Yeah. And he said that
when I had like a song on a billboard with
Nas Spicy and a song with Nicki Minaj. But I
love Els, you know, I love him even when he
don't know I do or if he don't think I do.
(23:09):
But yeah, that that fueled me and I was just like,
you know what, this is great because for so long
I felt like nobody was trying to fuck with me,
Like I needed somebody to like poke me, like poke
the beer so I could get better. Like so I
just used a fuel to just create. And yeah, and
also I was looking at Dion Sander's team. They just
(23:33):
kept losing, so I'm gonna create an anthem for them
and just for any But then it turned into for
anybody who was doubted. I wanted to create this anthem
for I feel.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Like the album is kind of like that, Like you
feel like a lot of people doubted you in this
album and it's like, this is my way of giving
y'all a middle finger, telling y'all I'm back.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Nah, it wasn't really, It's a few. It wasn't a
lot of people, like because I know I'm lit, like
I that's not a question in my mind. It's just
I'm talking to a few people. Yeah, and you can
hear it, like, you know, I say some names, I'm
sly with some things, but you get a I'm very
transparent on this album.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Now you said that you corrected me. You never thought
you was dead. But you have a song called alive
with a sad face next to it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Alive Unhappy. It's called I just thought that'd be cool
to like use a emoji. That's a part of the title.
Another thing with the title, and I'm gonna get back
to what you was asking. The title reads, it's basically
a summary when you read it down of what the
album is about.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
So you got work, thought I was dead?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Alive, the Lord demons, messy French tips, that homies captain
spelled fool chosen doubt exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So what you asked again, unhappy? All right, So basically
now that leads us here, Uh, light work, because I'm
a light worker. Like I sat down with these mediums
and they told me I was a light worker. I
come to shed light in a place of dark.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Work.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I'm not playing, We're here to fix things. So
light work. I come to shed dark I mean light
in a land of dark. So but in Harlem we
be like, oh, that shit is light work, that shit
is easy. So I'm like thinking, like, yo, this is
light work. And then I have my little cousin do
(25:20):
that on a song. This is light work. So light
work goes until they thought I was dead. They thought
I was dead because I've been going for four years.
And then you go to Alive Unhappy, which that but
then is speaking on the intro and then Alive Unhappy
is basically just saying like, nah, I'm not dead, I'm alive,
but I'm unhappy and that is the why I've been gone.
(25:43):
So alive unhappy, And then it goes into why the
allure with me in future, the allay of the game,
the money, the fame, the drugs, the booze, the everything.
You know, we have five people die out of a sap,
Yams China, Jay, Scott, Pressy and Josh. Yeah, I won't
(26:08):
be surprised if it's like somebody are missing. But yeah,
so alive unhappy. Uh. And then you go into a law,
and then a law with the a law of the
game comes to demons. Now we're talking about the demons. Now,
what I said, rappers want to talk about demons out
there on Demon Time, but they don't open it up.
(26:28):
And I'm not coming at no rappers. This is just
a pamphlet on or a blueprint on what we need
to do. Open those demons up and let's talk about it.
So I start talking about the demons. I see demons everywhere,
Demons from the pain, Demons in my cup, demons in
my brain, Demons in the food, Demons with the fame,
(26:48):
Demons in the sun, demons in the rain. She on
demon times. She don't need the vibe. No, I got
a girl. She don't even mind. I don't got a condom.
I don't need to find demon in my mind telling
me it's fine. So we going to demons, and then
we go in to messy, because with demons, shit get messy,
and then messy it goes into French tips, you know,
(27:10):
getting messy with my girl and fucking up all of
that ship. But like I'm also showing gratitude towards my
lady and that song. And then we going to casting
spells on that homie. Sorry, that's another that's demons too,
Like all my niggas is dying, all of that. I
gotta deal with that. And then we go in to
casting spells, which is like more about like manifestation where
(27:34):
we're talking about power words. Uh, that's why they call
it spelling. It's like casting spells every time you talk.
So you know, young Thug was locked up at the time,
and he was locked up behind bars for his bars.
So I did a painting. I painted all of my
(27:55):
my cover art too, So I did a painting called
Young Thug, and then it has like bars like jail bars,
and then it has rico and blood behind bars. So
I was like, put put the rico behind bars because
we're getting locked up for our bars. So yeah, so
we got cast and spells. Then we go into pool.
This is when it like start getting real and in
(28:18):
the skin, into the spirit of what this album is about.
And then we go into uh Chosen because that is
an affirmation to myself, I'm the chosen one. And then
we go into Darryl. I arrived to myself for myself.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You talk on on the live you talk about how
you only got one more album with Sony.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Now that's thought I was dead.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I thought I was dead. I'm sorry, I done thought
I was dead.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
What's important to you at this stage of your your
career when it comes to like just renegotiating if.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You even want to renegotiate, Uh, just more freedom, uh
more money. I got signed. I had three partners basically
in my pocket and easy and breezy. I never talk
about business. I never talk about family business. I might
talk a little bit about family business and songs get trouble,
(29:10):
get in trouble for it sometimes. But yeah, I had,
you know, three partners, and I had to work through
that for ten years. So everything that you see I have,
I had to work like ten times harder to get it.
So now you know, I have one more album. I'm
gonna make some more money. You know what I'm saying,
(29:31):
point blank period. I got things I need to do.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And I noticed on the Law of people were talking
about futures verse people were assuming that he was talking
about Gunna. Of course, when people send you verses, do
you listen or do you not care? That's their own
artistic way of feeling.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh, I definitely listen. I'm listening, and I know what
people was talking about. But yeah, artistic freedom. I'm not
allowing nobody to like it's words. At the end of
the day, you know what I'm saying, and his words
like we see I think Future and Drake just got
linked back up and they cool again. And Okay, well,
(30:13):
you know I met Gunner through Thug, so I'm lawyer
to Thug. Whatever Thug say, is good. It's good, you
know I love I love Thug and I've grown a
love for Gunner and when I see him, it's love.
But at the same time, it's like, whatever Thug say.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Have you spoken to Dougs?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I haven't spoke to Thug when he was home, but
I went to his girl's show and we had spoke
on the phone.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
How was the work of withmrgie Bline? You got her
on two tracks?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Mary is the Queen. Mary is literally the best in
the world, Like we are the same spirit, like uptown energy,
her remixing like Royeers songs. I love Royeers. Yeah, it's
like it was a dream for me to work with her.
(31:02):
She actually chose four songs to like jump on. She
wound up getting on too, But yeah, I do a
whole album with her. She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
How therapy kept you grounded, more poised.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It gave me tools to work through thoughts. It's like
I look at my therapists like a life manager, Like
we got managers for our money, we got managers for
our work, and like we need managers for our mind.
And you might need a spiritual spiritual god too, to
(31:35):
like guide you through the unseen. So it's like that's
how I look at therapy. It's just like a life manager.
It helps me put things into perspective, like you said,
unwinding things and breaking conditions and like understanding where things
is rooted, so you could kind of look at it
(31:56):
and just be like, oh, that's popping back up, let
me dive in. And then also like meditation. I've been
meditating for about five years now, like religiously. When I
had like heavy anxiety, I was meditating for thirty minutes
in a day as soon as I wake up, and
then thirty minutes before I go to sleep. And then
(32:17):
that shit literally that in the therapy. Like I used
to go into the therapy office and my leg was
moving like this. I used to watch my father do
that all the time. And when I first walked in there,
he said, you see your leg moving like that? And
I was like, and then I just stopped. He was like, yeah,
(32:37):
that's anxiety. And anxiety also don't only have to be
from trauma or whatever. It can be you're happy, you're excited.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, yeah, you want to see what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It Like when I walked Kendrick through harlem My anxiety
was through the roof because I'm like, Kendrick one of
my favorite rappids, So it's like that right there was like, uh,
that was that was cool. That was some cool ship.
Niggas can't do that, you know what I'm saying. And
(33:10):
he was protected. Nothing happened on my watch. He was
more nervous about like me, sure, I wasn't even thinking
about that. Te Ferd really thought about that because I
just don't think shit gonna happen to me at all. Yeah,
but like, yeah about that you walking walking him through
a Harlem. So I had one to his show and
(33:31):
he was like, yo, I got a day off tomorrow.
I'm like, are you trying to go to Harlem? Hm?
He was like yeah, I'm down. And then Dave Free
called me. He was like, Yo, this nigga really trying
to pull up the halem. So I had to like
put a whole itinerary together and randomly wound up being
Dapper Dan's birthday that day. He didn't even know I
(33:53):
was coming to see him, And I brought Kendrick to
Melbourns and then we went to Dapper Then I brought
him to my hood showed them like the stupid that
you know I used to hang out on and it
was like he's like, you know, they don't got hydrants
open in La, so he's like touching the water act
(34:13):
like that whole water. Yeah. I just thought it was
cool and it kind of like I seen the kid
in them. Like we walked through two fifth, like from
like seventh to eighth, and you know, like we walked
past the Apollo. He looking at the DVDs that they
got on the table, and it was early, so all
the kids is in school, so it wasn't like crazy mayhem.
(34:35):
We was like lo. We was like damn, like where
everybody at? And then I crossed the street we went
and we got like some mangos from the Mexican lady.
So it was cool. And that's what is that the
video where he did the pull ups? Yeah he beat
t Ferg and the pull ups. Yeah, they got it.
They gotta do a rematch. We said, we gotta go
to Compton and they gotta do the rematch because we
can't go out like that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
East Coast another thing people were talking about earlier this year.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I don't know if you spoke about this anywhere, but
when they was looking for Rocky to be on Romelo.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, put it out.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He wasn't doing there.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think Rocky low Ki used that verse for another song. Yeah, yeah,
so that's what happened. But he ain't telling me that,
so you had to take him off. I didn't take
him off that. The version still exists. We can still
put it out, yo, everybody, all the fans go hond
Rocky to drop his version of Romelo, because whatever other
song he dropped, we don't remember that. Go drop the
(35:28):
Romelo verse. We need that. That back and forth is
crazy on some Jada and styles, going back and forth crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And you know, people always talk about your face when
they when they did the they showed that video of
Rocky talking about fighting in jail.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Classic for whatever reason, that goes.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Super viral on TikTok all the time, and they always
doing it on your face.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What were you thinking of that moment. I was just listening.
I wasn't even thinking, and I didn't even realize I
was doing all of that with my face until I like,
I was like, yo, I seen a mic drop like this,
and then I'm like, I'm like and I'm like, because
this is news to me, Like I never first of
all casting Ova. When he first came home, he told
(36:12):
me he was locked up with Flocker, and I didn't
know that Rocky was locked up, so that was news.
And then when I think I brought it up or
he brought it up during that interview, and then he
started going to the details. This was all news to me.
So I'm just reacting to the news and I didn't
know I was looking like that.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Did you talk about its?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Like, yeah, we laughed about it. You Rocky likes shit
like that. He's silly like he Rocky is. Yeah, he
he Rocky a different type of dude, Like he ain't
tripping about none of that shit, at least to me.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Do you miss that having the whole gang around?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Uh No, I don't because it was a time. It
was a time when we was kids. A lot of
it was fun, but a lot of it I was
just like, man, I can't wait till I have my
own bus. I can't wait till like it's my time
(37:09):
to like pick out people who I want to roll
with me and do my thing. Cause I don't smoke weed,
I don't. I don't do a lot of the things
like I mean, the girls. Yeah, we was doing a
lot of the teens, but we you know, it was
some fun moments in that and I like to leave
it like that, like it's legendary, Like I wouldn't want to,
(37:30):
you know, if it's a thing where like any of
my brothers need anything, like I could put up on
twelve V work through stuff or you know. But yo,
that's eleven years in front of y'all. But like you
know what I'm saying. But before that, we like in
Harlem doing the same thing, but not in front of
the world. So you know, all together, it's probably like
(37:54):
seventeen years of just us. I'm ready for new new things,
Like you know what I'm saying, And like I said,
if any of them need anything, I'm here. I do
sorry to cut your wisdom, but I do feel like
we gotta get this asap movie together, and we gotta
get the Yams stuff together and tell a story because
(38:15):
we are getting of age and it's that.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Time y'all going after you think Yams being Yams, he
felt like the heart and soul of everything. You think
when he passed, that like changed everything, the whole dynamics
of the group or the crew.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
When he passed, for sure, because Jams was fighting. Like
I watched Jams catching siege at Coachella. He went to
the hospital when he came back and he he's still
trying to fight to everybody and talk like, well, he
wasn't fighting, but he was like fighting through that having
another seizure, you know, while talking and trying to get
everybody together because you got different textures and you know,
(38:53):
I might be like silk, and like Rocky might be
like hemp, and like uh Nas might be like leather.
So you're trying to mesh all of these different fabrics
together and that's a tough thing to do, especially coming
from Harlem like and Yams like Yams Yams. Every time
(39:13):
he talked, it's just like he was getting electrocuted. He
he just catch another It's not funny, but like at
that moment, I'm like, yo, bro, you're gonna die, Like
you gotta stop you You're stressing yourself out way too much.
Like and that's I don't miss that. I don't miss
that energy and I don't miss but it was it
(39:34):
made me into who I am, and I know that
that's a very real thing. And that's why I also
feel like this album is important.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
You speak about therapy like in past, and you know
you're not in therapy anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh no, No, this is my therapy now, you know,
talking to y'all. So whenever I need to like talk
to somebody, I'm gonna come here. Nice.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
You definitely go to your therapy, like you said, it's
something that you keep, like it's like a doctor.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
If I need it, like I will go. But it
was times where like I'll just go and be like, Yo,
how's the family, and then like, yeah, the family is good?
Like yeah, so I was like, how was Thanksgiving? And
we ain't got nothing to talk because I got the
tools I get you.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, talk to us about Ferg apparel. You're relaunching.
Oh yeah, just show it. Okay, that's what's uping. That
was your pops line, right, yeah, and you're relaunching it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
It was it's a family brand from the furg Empire.
My father started in nineteen ninety four, had a store
in one forty fifth between seventh and eighth, And yeah,
I just thought it was time, like with like this
whole me going back to the roots, I just thought
(40:49):
it was only right. I never really put the energy
into like relaunching the brand. I always used the logo,
but I wanted to relaunch the brand, and I felt
like it was a whole demographic that wasn't getting fed.
And that's like the uptown energy, Like we don't got that.
We don't got that. In fashion, we don't got the stories.
(41:10):
And nowadays kids love going shopping advantage stores and stuff
like that because those close hold stories in it, and
they want to be in those stories.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
They they spend like one thousand dollars on like a
Selena shirt or like you know, Tina Turner. So I
just wanted to like provide the stories to them because
that's important. They were like my friend's son, we was
all working out, well, my uncle's son, he was we
was working out yesterday and his son is fourteen years
(41:40):
well seventeen years old, and he's just like asking me,
like yo, when you were seventeen, like how you was
doing it? So they need the information. They need the information,
so I want to give it to him.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
I was watching a hand in gene Views. I saw
you on their on effective immediately, Yeah, you said you
got a job at rock Nation.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I don't have a job at rock Nation.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
So J. J.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Brown is my manager and along with Kaylee and I
brought in my uncle Dion, but I had an internship
at Rockefeller back in the day, well not Rockefeller, but
Rock a War and yeah, so we we working together,
like and it's nice.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You got you, got, you got you.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
My last question, man, I saw a quote, Well you
said it's okay to grow up, and that's what I
want to show my community on this album. So it
just made me wonder, why do you think our community
is the one that judges people for something as simple
as wanting to grow up or wanting to better yourself.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
We watched all of the great people do it. Jay Z, Kendrick,
J Cole. I love Snoop. Snoop is my favorite rap
of in the world. We got the same birthday, October twentie.
Snoop is my favorite rapper because he was the first
to show his kids like, yo, this is my family,
(43:01):
this is my kids, and be like a gangster rapper.
Like I thought that was super dope and he could
be gangster but also still be gangster and do a
Martha Steward show and not look like he compromising himself.
So I don't know if that's some libra shit, but
I rock with that.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Let's get into a joint off the album what you
want to Hear Chosen? Yeah, all right, well we'll get
into that now.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
The album Darryl is out right now and we appreciate
you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Brother. Yes, it's Berg.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The
Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Breakfast Club, Morning, everybody in stej en Vy, Jesse, Hilarrys Charlamage,
the guy. We all the breakfast club. We got a
special gainst in the building. Babies and gentleman firs.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Off feeling So no more a safer Uh, it's still
a SAPs on my chest. Okay, Sappers forever. I'm always
striving and prospering. But Ferg is like, you know, did
he change his name? It's a funny name. It's a
funny title to bring up Diddy, right, It's like, but
you know it happened. Yeah, did he changed his name
(00:37):
a few times? And it represented different eras of his career.
And That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Just your baby oil Era.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Did listen, I'm I'm Diddy is my family and I
love his family. I don't know all of what's going
on with this case and everything like that. And it's
a bunch of hare to say. Really, it's like a
thousand bottles of baby or what that has to do
anything with him being a bad man. So yeah, he
just a rich man with a bunch of baby.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you didn't say this is a new I guess
new energy in your life right now to take the
A SAP off. So what what is the difference? Is
it a crew? Was it more individual?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Is it? Well?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I feel like a SAP puts me in group think.
You know what I'm saying. You think about the era,
the which is a golden era, you know what I'm saying.
Like we changed the game, and it's just like for
me to change the game a whole other way and
in an individual way now, Like I was known for
being Ferg my whole life, Like I met Rocky as Ferg,
(01:41):
I met yams Is Ferg. And then like when we
came together as a group effort, we all changed our
name to a SAP for like how bone thus god,
you know, a lazy bone, crazy bone, flesh and bone.
We just basically took our last names and put them
last and put a SAP as our first. So it's
just a new era.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
So earlier this year with people from the A Sad
Mob saying that you were no longer a part of
A Sad.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Mom, Yeah, ils L said that and he took that
that quote back, like we talked about it and hashed
it and all of that stuff. But yeah it was
and Bari they said that, But my whole thing is like, uh,
you know, when you're doing great, that's what it comes with.
You know, people you feel some type of way. And
(02:26):
I didn't do anything to anybody.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So yeah, is the mob so close as they used
to be?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Uh close as they used to be? I would say
that me and Rocky we talked every now and then
and I always check on as well being. But we're
so busy just doing our own thing. He got two
kids and he's making music and got his career. This
(02:51):
is exactly going the way we wanted it to go. Like,
you know, I got my land over here, you got
your island over here. We big pillars, and then when
we come together, it's just like it just gets crazy.
So as far as like as close as we used
to be, no, because we used to basically live with
each other because we used to be on tour together.
But as far as love, like I love my brother
(03:12):
to death like I would. I always want to see
my brother do great, and I love what he's doing.
And yeah, all my brothers, you know, even Ils and Bari.
Like with the whole thing, it just I always say
that people handle fame differently like Yams he handled it
the way he handled it and it cost him his life.
(03:33):
And it's a lot of access, and you know, it
makes people act different. We don't know, Like I don't
I know these people and these guys from a point
like when I met them, they was already like teenagers
or like young adults. I don't know what happened to
(03:54):
them in their life before that. So what shapes and
molds these people and they they uh younger years or
as young men, don't I don't know what it was
like in their household or whatever. So when we get
the fame and the fortune and all of that, everybody's
gonna react different.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, where you've been at though you've been a little
quiet last I've been cooking.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, cooking. Yeah, Like you know, we in a game
where it's like everything is so quick, so quick. I
never believed in like rushing my process for money, Like
I feel like I've done that. I've like hustled. I
feel like after I dropped Traplo on my album, like
(04:36):
the time and effort it took me to create that album,
which it took my whole life to create that album,
because up until that point, I was just living it
and I created an album so I had mad life
to talk about on that one album. After that, it's
just like chasing a hit. But now you're listening to
the label YO, put out this, put out that because Yo,
this works for radio boom, and then it's like, I mean,
(05:00):
I got mad hit records, not saying that that's enough,
but for me, it wasn't enough. Like I wanted to
like really figure out what I wanted to say, because
you know, when you realize you got a voice, you
can really make a lot of movement and you want to,
you know, as a thirty six year old man, you
want to create purpose and have purpose driven moves. So
(05:24):
that's what I wanted to figure out, Like, all right,
you know I did that. That shit was fun, But
where am I going now? Like how am I going
to lead to people or what am I saying to
the kids? So that's what I had to figure out,
Like I wanted to grow as a person so the
music could evolve.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, the name of the album is Darryl. Yeah, No,
why Daryl Because it seems like it's almost like you're
going back to the origin of yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I feel like I was running. I was running for
myself for a long time. Like my father was such
a great man. Like I'm not sure if you.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Heard the legend.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, you know Dferg Deferg family, Like it's a whole
family of us. T Ferg. They know him. That's my uncle,
that's always with me. Deferg, my dad. You got Kim Ferg,
Mama Ferg. Kim Ferg used to dance with Teddy Riley
and you know she used to be with this crew
called the Gucci Girls with Dapadan. They're like all of
(06:13):
their outfits and stuff. So I come from a whole
lineage of Fergs. And then now it's just going back
to the basics and going back to my roots because
I feel like I never gave the world at I
only gave y'all, mobbin. I never gave y'all an individual.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
You know, on a live you said, let me go
to therapy and I'll be right back. So have you
really been going to therapy?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah? I went to therapy for three years, Like after
the It's a song I got called Pool where I
talk about my hiatus, and I went to therapy after
you know, during the mad Man to it that's like
playing Jane is going crazy. I'm doing one hundred and
fifty people meeting greet. I'm changing my outfits twice twice
(06:57):
a show. I'm like just really trying to like I'm
trying to take it there, and I'm taking it there.
Like at that time, I'm the face of Tiffany's first
black person and artist rapper to be the face of Tiffany's. Also,
I had a Hennessy deal, I did a deal Revlon deal,
(07:17):
Like it's going crazy. And I think that, like with
all of these things that I was doing, it really
just bodied me, cause it like it it bodied me
in a good way. Though it broke me into a
new me because I was like, damn, what am I
actually trying to reach? And then when I would like
look at artists that like just keep trying to go,
(07:40):
go go, go, go, go go, and I'm like, what
are they trying to reach? Because like escape or trying
to escape, And then I had to ask myself that question,
like what am I trying to reach? Like when is
it enough? And also I want to experience peace, Like
I don't want to have to keep being addicted to working,
(08:01):
you know what I'm saying. So and I didn't know
if I was addicted to working, but I just I was.
I was in you know, when you're coming out the hood,
and I'm pretty sure you guys came from, you know,
a place where like you had to kind of fight
to get out of there, and then it has to
become a time where it's like you realize you're not
in that fight anymore. And that's what happened. I realized
(08:22):
that I'm not like in Harlem, no more like fighting
to get out of this place. So I had to
like change my perspective. I had to get around other
people that had things to realize, like, all right, I'm
not the only one going through this. You know.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's interesting reason I asked you that is because you know,
a lot of times when you first start going to therapy,
it's not about what you're learning about yourself, is what
you're unlearning, And in a lot of ways, that really
does impact your creativity because you're like, well, who the
hell am I I'm trying to figure you got to
try to figure yourself out all over again. Was that
one of the reasons for the hiatus with the music too?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Uh? I think it's just growing. I think it's growing.
We call it a hiatus, but it's like that was
normal back in the time where like Biggie and Tupac,
Biggie had like four years like he dropped ready to
Die and then he came with Life After Death and
that's all we got from him after that. Like Lauren
(09:17):
Hill dropped one album and then dropped like a joint
with the fujis. These is real writers. Kendrick took five
years off to like, you know, write his album. So
when you putting purpose into music, it is not just
about making the world go like this, Like like I
could do that all day, but like, all right, How'm
gonna make the world go like this to the bpm?
(09:40):
But also when a motherfucker come off the high or
the liquor and they're driving back home and they sobered up,
how can you make it hit they soul still? So
that's me. I've always been a person that wanted to
put the medicine into music because I do believe that
music is a spiritual thing. You know, music we used
(10:01):
to sing songs to, like you know, uh and slavery.
We used to sing song to like tell you how
to get out of there, like yo, you gotta go
to the river and then you gotta get on the
boat and then because Master not picking up on the
slang and a swag and all of that. So you
know that that is That's what I do as an artist.
(10:23):
I figure out how to communicate to my culture what
we're doing next.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, you were very vulnerable on this album. Yes, knowing
you for a long time, you've been pretty quiet, like
you know, you don't really put your business out there.
So how were you able to be so vulnerable and
how difficult was it for you? I thought it was
like cool to be vulnerable. I thought it was cool
to be.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I talked to the ancestors came through. Nah, I thought
it was cool to be vulnerable because we're in the
town where being vulnerable, if you can be vulnerable is
cool because the kids they put everything out there. And
at first I thought that was kind of like crazy,
But then when I like really got hip to like
what's happening, it's a shift in culture where it's like
(11:15):
it's a lot of information being put out to us.
We got Hulu, we got Netflix, we got YouTube, we
got all of these outlets, and you have to stand
out some type of way. We in a town where
it's like we're battling for attention span so it's like
the realist, like Real TV changed that, you know, real TV,
and then you have love and hip hop and now
(11:35):
you have straight up Instagram stories and reels and shit
like that. So in your music you have to be
honest because it's like, if you're not saying some honest shit,
I'm just gonna look at this dude's story and like
he's not even rapping, but this is more interesting.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Did you were you at all worried about how vulnerable
you were gonna be pretty tragic things like that happened
to you as a kid.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, So, I mean it took me eight years to
write Pool, Like, it was three songs that I had
wrote to get to that point. So I wrote a
song called We Don't Judge and Chance the rappers on it.
I'm still put that out with Stacey Barth. And then
I wrote another song called Innocent Child, which was like
(12:27):
three different stories about three different I mean yeah, three
different stories about three different people. The last story was Mines,
and then I was just trying to refine, like and
then I linked up with my boy Kirby, who he designed.
He's the designer and owner Pierre Moss. I just love
his storytelling through his clothes and how he speaks to
the world. He kind of grabs the bull by the
(12:49):
horns and we got in the studio and he's just like, yo, bro,
like you itching towards it and you're scratching the surface
in this song, innocent child when you need to like
really just dive in and just go crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That you called it pool.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I called it pool because of so I got dr
I got Basically I went to, I don't want to
tell us the whole thing, yeah, but yeah, I want
you to go to listen to it because that's where
you'll get like the really finite detail of the song.
But basically, it was an incident that happened in the
pool when I was a young kid, and it's everybody's
(13:28):
around and everything like that, and you know, for me,
it was like weird. And then I was like and
it was like one second, but I'm like why, And
it just made me ask why. And I wanted to
basically create a piece of art that my kid could find,
all like kids could find and listen to it and
(13:52):
I'm still jiggy, I'm still this person or whatever, and
your and and let them know that like the things
that happened to you really happened for you. But the
things that happen to you can it's it's it doesn't
make it doesn't define us define exactly. So I was
like and then also I was thinking, like all these
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rappers and people just be like, yo, we're on demon toime,
we on demon Time, And I'm like, when when has
that ever been cool? To be on demon times? Really?
Like that's like not cool, like to be on demon town,
Like we on Demon Time. People don't even know where
that energy comes from, Like you just took him by yo,
we on demon time. Yo. This is just is what
(14:35):
it is. And I understand because like I got homies
that's in it, Like so sometimes you forced to be
in it, But if you're not forced to be in it,
then it's like why you want to be on demon time?
Like we should be like wanting to help each other.
So yeah, that was just what I was creating that
song for. And you know a lot of people say
we do on Demon time, and they don't talk about
(14:55):
the demons, Like let's open this up, like let's let's
let's let's uh dissect what the demon is is, Like
let's sit at a table that's what hip hop is.
Hip hop is religion. Hip hop is our spirituality. Like
hip hop is this like if when this mic, when
the cameras is off and you know, we're going we're
(15:17):
giving each other file and shit like that, we're gonna
talk about this conversation like that's some real shit. Like
but while we can't talk about the real shit on
camera and have these discussions. Hip hop is a thing
that unites religions and kids. You know, there's Muslims and
Jewish people that's war on with each other. I went
to Jerusalem how to show I seen all of them
(15:37):
turning up together. I got back home like they letting
me have it on, Like this is how I knew
it was a problem because I'm not knowing like I'm
making music but like I'm not knowing that I did
something like powerful. But like when I get back home,
I check on my DM, They're like, yo, how you
gonna perform for the Muslims? How are you gonna perform
for the Jews? Da da da da da? And I'm like, yo,
(15:58):
the kids don't want to fight. The kids want to
like unite. The kids want to see the light.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
The kids are caught up in something bigger than them,
something that's been going on longer than.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Them exactly, but like who's really having that conversation? Like
why are we not having that conversation? Like I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Was it difficult depend the right the words for pool?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Is that why it took eight years because just being
just publicly addressing you know, what happened to you. You know,
it's hard to address moleftation period, but also with his
molestation from the same sex.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
With First of all, I just had the I was
looking at the the news that you put out the
other day, and then I had to like research molestation
and like malestation sounds so crazy to me, Like it's like, oh,
like you know, it could vary, like what molestation is
regardless of what it is, it can like how old
(16:51):
were you? I was nine years old? How old was
the person? The person was way older than me because.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
He was I used to think this I got b
left by I read I seen you look at it
the same way.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Like did you think it the worse when you think.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, it's like you got different levels, like you know
I was touched. Like to be clear, like you know,
it doesn't make it no different because you know everything affects.
I was like groped basically, and I just found it
weird because it's another dude.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Like absolutely, like what there scared?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
That weird? Like you, yeah, were you.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Scared to tell your family because your family comes from
the street. I know you said you told your cousin
when you're scared because you knew that if your family
found out.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I told my cousin because he was my age and
I didn't want to I didn't want to feel weird,
like I'm holding this thing to myself, so I had
to tell somebody. And then years later I told my
mom after seeing a precious movie and then people was
like standing up. We went to I don't know we've
seen like a you went to like a premiere of
the precious movie and people was like standing up and
(17:58):
telling these stories after that thing. And then I told
her like on the train, and she was just like
what for real? When I'm sorry? Like she just felt
like a bad mom. But like you know, we in
the hood, we going to the pool, we're going to
the park. You just never know, like wirdows could just
creep up in the mix and you can't hold your
(18:20):
kid by you twenty four seven, like, so that's a
and then the hood, I mean, and then not just
in the hood, everywhere. I feel like this shit is
going on and people not gonna talk about it, and
I'm like, yo, what am I talking about? Like I
didn't make that happen to me, like like that shit
ain't mine to like be trying to hold inside, like.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
And it's powerful that you're sharing it. There's a lot
of brothers.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I think the only other person that you've heard talk
about that in rap was Common No Common, and then
Jel Curry over there.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
People say that Kendrick said something about it, but I
think that was about his mom.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, he has a song on his album, The Big Steppers.
Is it called the Big Steppers? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Did you and have those conversations when y'all recording demas?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Nah? I didn't even tell him what to write about.
I actually that was the last song because that was
just me by myself at first, and then I was like,
how can I turn this up? But he heard the context,
like me and him have like a telepathy that like
we don't have to talk to each other to know
what it is. So he got it and he understood
(19:32):
the assignment.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
How did y'all end up piecing up? I know y'all
had like a little beef.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I never had beef for him. I'm like, I'm not
the beef type person, like I'd rather like I'm not.
I just don't have to talk to you. What we
beef before?
Speaker 5 (19:48):
How did y'all connect with that? After that? Though?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I took Denzel on tour on mad Man Tour. Was
it was on the first wing. It was Playboy CARTI
and somebody else. Oh, I think it was I DK
and I had like I had came off tour during
that time because I was just mentally and physically drank,
and then I came back on and then I think
(20:11):
he came on for the second wing. But me and
Denzel always been cool, like super cool. We were the
type of dudes talking like I don't know what they're doing,
like they're tripping. But yeah, that's my buddy, Like I
loved this, He's my favorite rapper.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah, you said, is it hard to have these conversations? Could?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I could always think about, you know, when you're sharing
so much of yourself and you're being so vulnerable about
certain things, but then you do got to go out
here and do interviews and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Is it hard to have those conversations.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, I just think that it's it could be challenging
on how to uh because you know, you get ridiculed
and all of that stuff, and people love to take
sound bites and take it out of term and I
have to be cool with that. But I think that's
really on how I convey it, Like that's what I
(21:01):
focused on. Like I thought about this interview like months
before I got here. Yeah, I'm like, cause I'm gonna
I knew I was gonna have to talk about this stuff.
So it's just like, how do I talk about it?
And you know, this is not, first of all easy,
you don't hear this is like the first type shit,
like like somebody talk about this this open you get
(21:23):
what I'm saying. I'm like leading the pack for a
new way right now, like and it's not easy. So yeah,
it's like it's gonna come out the way and come out.
But I just try to figure out, like, all right,
how can I best you know, paint the picture exactly
the way it is in my mind?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
And then coming from Harlem, which is the pause capital
you even have that conversation without somebody.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm grown like, yeah, like that's that's neither here nor there,
like you know, and yeah, pause, like it's still paused.
Like my gay friends say paused.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
They gotta be fami. I feel like the only gay
niggas that say paused.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you said that you feel
like you should be in the conversations when it comes
to Kendrick Lamar, J Cole and Drake. Then somebody would say,
but it takes you too damn long.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
To put out a project. That's what we do.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
What was your mindset behind I thought I was dead.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
They thought I was dead. I never thought I was dead.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Okay, well tell me that the mindset behind.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
That, The mindset behind that was the l's comment. You
know what I'm saying. He said I was a you know,
I was burnt out, trapped, little can't get it right.
I remember that. I remember that so vivid.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You there, You're the most active from.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It for me, musmusically, musically, Yeah. And he said that
when I had like a song on a billboard with
Nas Spicy and a song with Nicki Minaj. But I
love Els, you know, I love him even when he
don't know I do or if he don't think I do.
(23:09):
But yeah, that that fueled me and I was just like,
you know what, this is great because for so long
I felt like nobody was trying to fuck with me,
Like I needed somebody to like poke me, like poke
the beer so I could get better. Like so I
just used a fuel to just create. And yeah, and
also I was looking at Dion Sander's team. They just
(23:33):
kept losing, so I'm gonna create an anthem for them
and just for any But then it turned into for
anybody who was doubted. I wanted to create this anthem
for I feel.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Like the album is kind of like that, Like you
feel like a lot of people doubted you in this
album and it's like, this is my way of giving
y'all a middle finger, telling y'all I'm back.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Nah, it wasn't really, It's a few. It wasn't a
lot of people, like because I know I'm lit, like
I that's not a question in my mind. It's just
I'm talking to a few people. Yeah, and you can
hear it, like, you know, I say some names, I'm
sly with some things, but you get a I'm very
transparent on this album.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Now you said that you corrected me. You never thought
you was dead. But you have a song called alive
with a sad face next to it.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Alive Unhappy. It's called I just thought that'd be cool
to like use a emoji. That's a part of the title.
Another thing with the title, and I'm gonna get back
to what you was asking. The title reads, it's basically
a summary when you read it down of what the
album is about.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
So you got work, thought I was dead?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Alive, the Lord demons, messy French tips, that homies captain
spelled fool chosen doubt exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
So what you asked again, unhappy? All right, So basically
now that leads us here, Uh, light work, because I'm
a light worker. Like I sat down with these mediums
and they told me I was a light worker. I
come to shed light in a place of dark.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Work.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I'm not playing, We're here to fix things. So
light work. I come to shed dark I mean light
in a land of dark. So but in Harlem we
be like, oh, that shit is light work, that shit
is easy. So I'm like thinking, like, yo, this is
light work. And then I have my little cousin do
(25:20):
that on a song. This is light work. So light
work goes until they thought I was dead. They thought
I was dead because I've been going for four years.
And then you go to Alive Unhappy, which that but
then is speaking on the intro and then Alive Unhappy
is basically just saying like, nah, I'm not dead, I'm alive,
but I'm unhappy and that is the why I've been gone.
(25:43):
So alive unhappy, And then it goes into why the
allure with me in future, the allay of the game,
the money, the fame, the drugs, the booze, the everything.
You know, we have five people die out of a sap,
Yams China, Jay, Scott, Pressy and Josh. Yeah, I won't
(26:08):
be surprised if it's like somebody are missing. But yeah,
so alive unhappy. Uh. And then you go into a law,
and then a law with the a law of the
game comes to demons. Now we're talking about the demons. Now,
what I said, rappers want to talk about demons out
there on Demon Time, but they don't open it up.
(26:28):
And I'm not coming at no rappers. This is just
a pamphlet on or a blueprint on what we need
to do. Open those demons up and let's talk about it.
So I start talking about the demons. I see demons everywhere,
Demons from the pain, Demons in my cup, demons in
my brain, Demons in the food, Demons with the fame,
(26:48):
Demons in the sun, demons in the rain. She on
demon times. She don't need the vibe. No, I got
a girl. She don't even mind. I don't got a condom.
I don't need to find demon in my mind telling
me it's fine. So we going to demons, and then
we go in to messy, because with demons, shit get messy,
and then messy it goes into French tips, you know,
(27:10):
getting messy with my girl and fucking up all of
that ship. But like I'm also showing gratitude towards my
lady and that song. And then we going to casting
spells on that homie. Sorry, that's another that's demons too,
Like all my niggas is dying, all of that. I
gotta deal with that. And then we go in to
casting spells, which is like more about like manifestation where
(27:34):
we're talking about power words. Uh, that's why they call
it spelling. It's like casting spells every time you talk.
So you know, young Thug was locked up at the time,
and he was locked up behind bars for his bars.
So I did a painting. I painted all of my
(27:55):
my cover art too, So I did a painting called
Young Thug, and then it has like bars like jail bars,
and then it has rico and blood behind bars. So
I was like, put put the rico behind bars because
we're getting locked up for our bars. So yeah, so
we got cast and spells. Then we go into pool.
This is when it like start getting real and in
(28:18):
the skin, into the spirit of what this album is about.
And then we go into uh Chosen because that is
an affirmation to myself, I'm the chosen one. And then
we go into Darryl. I arrived to myself for myself.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You talk on on the live you talk about how
you only got one more album with Sony.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Now that's thought I was dead.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I thought I was dead. I'm sorry, I done thought
I was dead.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
What's important to you at this stage of your your
career when it comes to like just renegotiating if.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You even want to renegotiate, Uh, just more freedom, uh
more money. I got signed. I had three partners basically
in my pocket and easy and breezy. I never talk
about business. I never talk about family business. I might
talk a little bit about family business and songs get trouble,
(29:10):
get in trouble for it sometimes. But yeah, I had,
you know, three partners, and I had to work through
that for ten years. So everything that you see I have,
I had to work like ten times harder to get it.
So now you know, I have one more album. I'm
gonna make some more money. You know what I'm saying,
(29:31):
point blank period. I got things I need to do.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And I noticed on the Law of people were talking
about futures verse people were assuming that he was talking
about Gunna. Of course, when people send you verses, do
you listen or do you not care? That's their own
artistic way of feeling.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh, I definitely listen. I'm listening, and I know what
people was talking about. But yeah, artistic freedom. I'm not
allowing nobody to like it's words. At the end of
the day, you know what I'm saying, and his words
like we see I think Future and Drake just got
linked back up and they cool again. And Okay, well,
(30:13):
you know I met Gunner through Thug, so I'm lawyer
to Thug. Whatever Thug say, is good. It's good, you
know I love I love Thug and I've grown a
love for Gunner and when I see him, it's love.
But at the same time, it's like, whatever Thug say.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Have you spoken to Dougs?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I haven't spoke to Thug when he was home, but
I went to his girl's show and we had spoke
on the phone.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
How was the work of withmrgie Bline? You got her
on two tracks?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Mary is the Queen. Mary is literally the best in
the world, Like we are the same spirit, like uptown energy,
her remixing like Royeers songs. I love Royeers. Yeah, it's
like it was a dream for me to work with her.
(31:02):
She actually chose four songs to like jump on. She
wound up getting on too, But yeah, I do a
whole album with her. She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
How therapy kept you grounded, more poised.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It gave me tools to work through thoughts. It's like
I look at my therapists like a life manager, Like
we got managers for our money, we got managers for
our work, and like we need managers for our mind.
And you might need a spiritual spiritual god too, to
(31:35):
like guide you through the unseen. So it's like that's
how I look at therapy. It's just like a life manager.
It helps me put things into perspective, like you said,
unwinding things and breaking conditions and like understanding where things
is rooted, so you could kind of look at it
(31:56):
and just be like, oh, that's popping back up, let
me dive in. And then also like meditation. I've been
meditating for about five years now, like religiously. When I
had like heavy anxiety, I was meditating for thirty minutes
in a day as soon as I wake up, and
then thirty minutes before I go to sleep. And then
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that shit literally that in the therapy. Like I used
to go into the therapy office and my leg was
moving like this. I used to watch my father do
that all the time. And when I first walked in there,
he said, you see your leg moving like that? And
I was like, and then I just stopped. He was like, yeah,
(32:37):
that's anxiety. And anxiety also don't only have to be
from trauma or whatever. It can be you're happy, you're excited.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, yeah, you want to see what it's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
It Like when I walked Kendrick through harlem My anxiety
was through the roof because I'm like, Kendrick one of
my favorite rappids, So it's like that right there was like, uh,
that was that was cool. That was some cool ship.
Niggas can't do that, you know what I'm saying. And
(33:10):
he was protected. Nothing happened on my watch. He was
more nervous about like me, sure, I wasn't even thinking
about that. Te Ferd really thought about that because I
just don't think shit gonna happen to me at all. Yeah,
but like, yeah about that you walking walking him through
a Harlem. So I had one to his show and
(33:31):
he was like, yo, I got a day off tomorrow.
I'm like, are you trying to go to Harlem? Hm?
He was like yeah, I'm down. And then Dave Free
called me. He was like, Yo, this nigga really trying
to pull up the halem. So I had to like
put a whole itinerary together and randomly wound up being
Dapper Dan's birthday that day. He didn't even know I
(33:53):
was coming to see him, And I brought Kendrick to
Melbourns and then we went to Dapper Then I brought
him to my hood showed them like the stupid that
you know I used to hang out on and it
was like he's like, you know, they don't got hydrants
open in La, so he's like touching the water act
(34:13):
like that whole water. Yeah. I just thought it was
cool and it kind of like I seen the kid
in them. Like we walked through two fifth, like from
like seventh to eighth, and you know, like we walked
past the Apollo. He looking at the DVDs that they
got on the table, and it was early, so all
the kids is in school, so it wasn't like crazy mayhem.
(34:35):
We was like lo. We was like damn, like where
everybody at? And then I crossed the street we went
and we got like some mangos from the Mexican lady.
So it was cool. And that's what is that the
video where he did the pull ups? Yeah he beat
t Ferg and the pull ups. Yeah, they got it.
They gotta do a rematch. We said, we gotta go
to Compton and they gotta do the rematch because we
can't go out like that.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
East Coast another thing people were talking about earlier this year.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I don't know if you spoke about this anywhere, but
when they was looking for Rocky to be on Romelo.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, put it out.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He wasn't doing there.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think Rocky low Ki used that verse for another song. Yeah, yeah,
so that's what happened. But he ain't telling me that,
so you had to take him off. I didn't take
him off that. The version still exists. We can still
put it out, yo, everybody, all the fans go hond
Rocky to drop his version of Romelo, because whatever other
song he dropped, we don't remember that. Go drop the
(35:28):
Romelo verse. We need that. That back and forth is
crazy on some Jada and styles, going back and forth crazy.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
And you know, people always talk about your face when
they when they did the they showed that video of
Rocky talking about fighting in jail.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Classic for whatever reason, that goes.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Super viral on TikTok all the time, and they always
doing it on your face.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What were you thinking of that moment. I was just listening.
I wasn't even thinking, and I didn't even realize I
was doing all of that with my face until I like,
I was like, yo, I seen a mic drop like this,
and then I'm like, I'm like and I'm like, because
this is news to me, Like I never first of
all casting Ova. When he first came home, he told
(36:12):
me he was locked up with Flocker, and I didn't
know that Rocky was locked up, so that was news.
And then when I think I brought it up or
he brought it up during that interview, and then he
started going to the details. This was all news to me.
So I'm just reacting to the news and I didn't
know I was looking like that.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Did you talk about its?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Like, yeah, we laughed about it. You Rocky likes shit
like that. He's silly like he Rocky is. Yeah, he
he Rocky a different type of dude, Like he ain't
tripping about none of that shit, at least to me.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Do you miss that having the whole gang around?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Uh No, I don't because it was a time. It
was a time when we was kids. A lot of
it was fun, but a lot of it I was
just like, man, I can't wait till I have my
own bus. I can't wait till like it's my time
(37:09):
to like pick out people who I want to roll
with me and do my thing. Cause I don't smoke weed,
I don't. I don't do a lot of the things
like I mean, the girls. Yeah, we was doing a
lot of the teens, but we you know, it was
some fun moments in that and I like to leave
it like that, like it's legendary, Like I wouldn't want to,
(37:30):
you know, if it's a thing where like any of
my brothers need anything, like I could put up on
twelve V work through stuff or you know. But yo,
that's eleven years in front of y'all. But like you
know what I'm saying. But before that, we like in
Harlem doing the same thing, but not in front of
the world. So you know, all together, it's probably like
(37:54):
seventeen years of just us. I'm ready for new new things,
Like you know what I'm saying, And like I said,
if any of them need anything, I'm here. I do
sorry to cut your wisdom, but I do feel like
we gotta get this asap movie together, and we gotta
get the Yams stuff together and tell a story because
(38:15):
we are getting of age and it's that.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Time y'all going after you think Yams being Yams, he
felt like the heart and soul of everything. You think
when he passed, that like changed everything, the whole dynamics
of the group or the crew.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
When he passed, for sure, because Jams was fighting. Like
I watched Jams catching siege at Coachella. He went to
the hospital when he came back and he he's still
trying to fight to everybody and talk like, well, he
wasn't fighting, but he was like fighting through that having
another seizure, you know, while talking and trying to get
everybody together because you got different textures and you know,
(38:53):
I might be like silk, and like Rocky might be
like hemp, and like uh Nas might be like leather.
So you're trying to mesh all of these different fabrics
together and that's a tough thing to do, especially coming
from Harlem like and Yams like Yams Yams. Every time
(39:13):
he talked, it's just like he was getting electrocuted. He
he just catch another It's not funny, but like at
that moment, I'm like, yo, bro, you're gonna die, Like
you gotta stop you You're stressing yourself out way too much.
Like and that's I don't miss that. I don't miss
that energy and I don't miss but it was it
(39:34):
made me into who I am, and I know that
that's a very real thing. And that's why I also
feel like this album is important.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
You speak about therapy like in past, and you know
you're not in therapy anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Oh no, No, this is my therapy now, you know,
talking to y'all. So whenever I need to like talk
to somebody, I'm gonna come here. Nice.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
You definitely go to your therapy, like you said, it's
something that you keep, like it's like a doctor.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
If I need it, like I will go. But it
was times where like I'll just go and be like, Yo,
how's the family, and then like, yeah, the family is good?
Like yeah, so I was like, how was Thanksgiving? And
we ain't got nothing to talk because I got the
tools I get you.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
Yeah, yeah, talk to us about Ferg apparel. You're relaunching.
Oh yeah, just show it. Okay, that's what's uping. That
was your pops line, right, yeah, and you're relaunching it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
It was it's a family brand from the furg Empire.
My father started in nineteen ninety four, had a store
in one forty fifth between seventh and eighth, And yeah,
I just thought it was time, like with like this
whole me going back to the roots, I just thought
(40:49):
it was only right. I never really put the energy
into like relaunching the brand. I always used the logo,
but I wanted to relaunch the brand, and I felt
like it was a whole demographic that wasn't getting fed.
And that's like the uptown energy, Like we don't got that.
We don't got that. In fashion, we don't got the stories.
(41:10):
And nowadays kids love going shopping advantage stores and stuff
like that because those close hold stories in it, and
they want to be in those stories.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
They they spend like one thousand dollars on like a
Selena shirt or like you know, Tina Turner. So I
just wanted to like provide the stories to them because
that's important. They were like my friend's son, we was
all working out, well, my uncle's son, he was we
was working out yesterday and his son is fourteen years
(41:40):
well seventeen years old, and he's just like asking me,
like yo, when you were seventeen, like how you was
doing it? So they need the information. They need the information,
so I want to give it to him.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
I was watching a hand in gene Views. I saw
you on their on effective immediately, Yeah, you said you
got a job at rock Nation.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I don't have a job at rock Nation.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
So J. J.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Brown is my manager and along with Kaylee and I
brought in my uncle Dion, but I had an internship
at Rockefeller back in the day, well not Rockefeller, but
Rock a War and yeah, so we we working together,
like and it's nice.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
You got you, got, you got you.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
My last question, man, I saw a quote, Well you
said it's okay to grow up, and that's what I
want to show my community on this album. So it
just made me wonder, why do you think our community
is the one that judges people for something as simple
as wanting to grow up or wanting to better yourself.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
We watched all of the great people do it. Jay Z, Kendrick,
J Cole. I love Snoop. Snoop is my favorite rap
of in the world. We got the same birthday, October twentie.
Snoop is my favorite rapper because he was the first
to show his kids like, yo, this is my family,
(43:01):
this is my kids, and be like a gangster rapper.
Like I thought that was super dope and he could
be gangster but also still be gangster and do a
Martha Steward show and not look like he compromising himself.
So I don't know if that's some libra shit, but
I rock with that.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Let's get into a joint off the album what you
want to Hear Chosen? Yeah, all right, well we'll get
into that now.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
The album Darryl is out right now and we appreciate
you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Brother. Yes, it's Berg.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning. The
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