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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that answer up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Morning.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Everybody is DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Chelamaine the guy.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Laura LaRosa filling in for Jess, and we had our
systems Angela Rie with us this morning. And we got
a special guest in the building. And we have the
Governor of Maryland. Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Wes Moore. Welcome, brother,
it's gonna be back.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's gonna be back.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Good to see y'all.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
How are you feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'm blessed, I'm good. I'm feeling feeling, feeling really good.
We're almost there. We got twenty six days in a
wake up to go do something special.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
How are you feeling? How are you feeling about the
chances of Madame Vice President?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
I think this race is gonna be close. I think
that this race is always gonna be close. This race
can be close up into election day. I think this
is a turnout game. And that's why I think that
this isn't about are we swaying people one way or another?
It's are we motivating people to come out in the
first place? And you're not finding a team that's working
harder right now, both amongst the Vice President who has
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just been I mean, I think she's just running fantastic
campaign and she's the right candidate. But in addition to that,
you have a whole army of surrogates who are out
here every single day in all the battleground states speaking
to our constituents and our jurisdictions and letting people know
what's his stake and what we can actually get done
if we actually get out there and make our voices hurt.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
You feel like the surrogates got activated too late for
the Democratic Party, because even when President Biden was running,
I was saying that, yo, he should be leaning on
people like you, leaning on Governor Gretchen, with leaning on
Governor Shapiro, leaning on the VP at the time. Do
you feel like the surrogates got activated too late? And
if so, why did y'all to just fall back?
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You know, I don't I don't know if it was
activated too late, because I mean, you know, when I
think about myself and and and Gretchen and Josh and
countless others, you know, we've been out there and fighting
and advocating at that time for President Biden. But then
you know, we're we're grateful we have such that he
has such an extraordinary vice president, and we're going to
have such an extordinary president come January.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And Vice President Kamala.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Hers, what do you I'm sorry, No.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I mean so, I mean, I don't I don't know
if I would say that things got activated activated too late,
because also I think we have to remember and consistently
give grace to the vice president. I mean, she's had
a presidential campaign, what for ten weeks. In ten weeks,
she stood up an entire new campaign. She was able
to get all of the delegates and all the delegates
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she needed. They ran a very successful convention. She had
a very successful role out of a vice president. She's
gone through not just her demolishing her debate with Trump
and then also Governor Watz's And that's been ten weeks.
So I do think we have to give a little
bit of grace to what has actually happened in just
a pretty short period of time.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I was going to ask, what do you think they
need to do more of?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
You know, we talked about, of course, the media blist
that they've been doing this week, talking to more and
more people. You know, we felt for a long time
that they didn't. And we've seen Trump and JD out
there like crazy. So what do you think they need
to do more to connect to those people that might
be still on the fence of which way they want
to go.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I think they need to keep doing what they're doing,
which is going on speaking directly to people. You know,
you know, I hear people say, well, they need to
do more sit down interviews, they need to go and
meet the press. They needed this, respectfully. I mean, I
don't know if that's gonna move an election. If she
needs to go and meet the press more, or she
needs to go and face the nation, or she needs
to go on Fox News, go to the people, because
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the people are gonna be the ones to help them
determine how this election goes and how people are and
how people are going to see and receive. And I
think the other big thing that we've got to do
is I understand that, you know, she's running against someone
who is historically and uniquely unqualified and prepared for this role. Right,
we're talking about someone who who and let's just take
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the past seventy two hours, right, the past seventy two hours,
we just got reports that he was deciding how much
aid to give California during wildfires based on their voting districts.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Right in the past event.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Two hours, we had him say, literally say that Vice
President Kamala Harris was born mentally impaired. Right in the
past seventy two hours, we have seen how the signature
injury of Iraq in Afghanistan, and I'm a very proud
veteran of the Afghanistan war, and the signature injury over
five hundred thousand people who have been diagnosed with traumatic
brain injuries. Right, the signature injury. We heard the former
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president of the United States say it's nothing more than headaches.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Right. So, I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Ain't even mentioned the Putin stuff, and not even mention
the fact that that he's got this consistent thing going
on with Putin. So my thing is, I don't think
we need to spend a whole lot more time talking
about the dangers Donald Trump, frankly, he tells on himself
every single day. Right, I think we have just continually
push and articulate the vision for the Vice president, which
is actually a vision not just that brings us together,
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but is detailed. You know, when we're talking about things
like a six thousand dollars child tax credit. That could
be the most aggressive push that we can make on
a federal level to end chop poverty that we have
seen in this country. When she's talking about things like
an increasing capital and liquidity to our small businesses and
to our minority owned businesses, making sure that going from
an idea into a large concepts and something that you're hiring, hiring,
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you know, tens and thousands of people, can be real
for all communities and.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Not just some.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
These are detailed plans that she's laying out her housing
package about how to focus on transit oriented development and
how to focus on density bonuses and increasing inventory and
turning renters into homeowners like these are details, These are
concepts of a plan.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
These are detailed plans.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
And so as long as she continues to do that,
and for all of us, because all of us as
are sarrogates, we will continue pushing that message as well.
And I think that's going to be the message that
is going to win the day and not so much
focusing on, you know, the dangers of Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I think people get that.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Let me ask you one more question. You know a
lot of people out there feel like both sides just
don't really care that it's all a political game, right,
I don't know. Can you pull up that audio A
gentleman called this is the perfect way to say it.
A guy called today from Florida Tampa and he's dealing
with the hurricanes, and you know he pretty much will
say it, stop playing with me?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Can you flan?
Speaker 7 (05:55):
It don't matter what that is? Democrat, Republican, may all
prison man, all about money. Bro, I think these people
care about American people. Bro It shit hurt, bro. This
should hurt, bro. People wake up every day. It's one
of a life.
Speaker 8 (06:10):
Bro.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
You got these fucking Greek snakes Man. You got these
fucking greed snakes call themselves government purpose people broke, and
they don't give a damn. Bro. They don't give a
damn about the micro's coming over here. They're using them too.
Speaker 9 (06:23):
Man.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
It shit ain't right, man.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You're absolutely right.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Come bike man.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
He said you wish God could come back.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
That's the sentiments we've been hearing a lot from just
just open them up, the phone lines and how people
feel about government officials. So what do you say to
those people that really feel like they have no hope
where they're saying, I wish God toud come back.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
I mean, here's listening to them, because it's real, you know,
I we can't forget man.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I mean, and when people.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Talk about what's the frustration that people feel, I think
for a lot of people, it's not a frustration with
the vice presidents, not a frustration with the political party.
It's the frustration with the pace of progress in this
country period. It's just a frustration that it's like every
few years we have these conversations and people do not
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feel that their lives are improving fast enough, particularly when
they're looking the lives of other people who are improving faster.
And so I mean, when I hear that, it's not
just heartbreaking. But but I'm listening to this brother, and
I'm saying what he's saying is justified, and listen, I
you know, obviously I don't come I don't come from
a political family. I don't come from a political background.
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The first elected offic is I ever ran for over
as governor and and I literally I was I was
trying to convince members of my family to vote for
me when I ran for governor, like real talk. And
it wasn't like I was trying to convince them to vote.
From me, I was trying to convince them to vote.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Why didn't they believe in you?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
That's another that's a whole other question because I know
you from being the CEO of the Robbin Hoo Foundations.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You've always been in the public service. Yeah, why didn't they.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Believe in you?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Because you've been doing the work.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Anybody gonna harp on your pains.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Laugh at it, laugh at it, just laugh at it.
He's like, tell me again out your family don't believe it?
Stop right there.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
No, But it's like it's that I don't know if
they believed in the American political system. MM, like, can
you actually make a difference in that seat?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I literally I I have members of my family who
I will talk to like, oh yeah, election Day was
last week, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Because people just live in their lives.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
They're not caught up in all this, And I think
there's there's there's a there's a few things that I
try to remind them and not even say to this,
say to you know, say to this brother who you
know again, our heart is breaking for them because it
is real. The one thing I would say is. It
is important to remember even for those who feel like well,
who's sitting in these seats doesn't matter to me and
the political system doesn't involve me and I'm not engaging it,
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I would just say never forget that everything about your
life is a policy decision. Yep, you know what I mean,
from from the home you woke up in this morning,
to the water that you're drinking from them, from the
tap when you get up in the morning, from the
transportation that you have to go to work, or that
for your kids to go to school, for the school
your kids are attending, for the way you are policed,
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to every aspect of your life is a policy decision.
Someone intentionally made a decision about you and the community
you come up in. So do not think for a
second that this stuff doesn't matter. But I will say too,
I will say to that brother who And also to say,
the amount of misinformation that's coming out right now about
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what the Biden Harris administration are doing and not doing
it is staggering, and it is dangerous because there are
people who are in true danger because the misinformation is
so clouding the accurate information that people are not getting
the services and supports that are there and in place
and mobilizing to support them.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But you know, when I think.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
About why, one of the big reasons I'm so all
in for the Vice President is because I have seen
her work, and I've seen her work in difficult times.
I've seen her work in crisis. I saw how she
was an amazing partner to us in Maryland when the
Key Bridge, when the Key Bridge collapsed, when it was
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hit by a ship the size of three football fields.
And the first you know, I remember at two two
in the morning when my phone rang to let me
know that a two mile span bridge was now sitting
at the bottom of the Tasco River. That the Port
of Baltimore, which really is America's port, I mean it
services two thirds of this entire country, was now shut down,
and around thirteen percent of my state's economy was now gone.
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That there were thousands of workers who were about to
wake up and realize they didn't have a job anymore.
And where we had six port workers, sixty six workers
on the bridge who were fixing potholes in the middle
of the night, who are now missing, and as we're
mobilizing put the state on the state of emergency, having
our state police divers in the water to work to
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save lives. I will never forget one of the early
calls that I got. It literally started with three words, Gov.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's Kamala.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
And she said, I know you just spoke to the president,
and I want to let I want to reiterate We're
going to be with you every step of the way,
and she has been. And so to the people who
are heartbreaking me struggling due to Helene, to the folks
in Florida. So the folks who right now are saying,
do we have a government that sees us and is
mobilizing for us? I can tell you from personal, firsthand experience,
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the answer is yes. And the person who we need
sitting in that seat is Kamala Hers.
Speaker 9 (11:44):
You mentioned that there are a lot of folks, including
in your family, who don't get caught up in all this,
and one of the things that we've seen is a
failed response from FEMA Katrina. You know, folks worried about
how they'll respond to Milton at the time they were
recording this. But this isn't the only space where you're
engaging and being a surrogate. There's also a tremendous sister
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in Maryland running for the Senate Angela also Brooks oh
yes who. If she wins and Lisa Blunt Rochester wins
in Delaware, they'll become the fourth and the fifth ever
to serve in the United States Senates in terms of
Black women, fourth and the fifth in the history of
the United States Senate. So it's exciting, but also it's
devastating that they would be four and five historically to
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ever serve as black women and four and five black
people in the Senate right now. It's certainly not on
par with our demographics. Why is that race so important?
And what challenges does Angela have yet to break through?
Because it's the interview conversation. Isn't just about Vice President Harris,
that's happening also with Angela.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm so Angela spectacular.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
She's gonna make a great senator, you know about Actually,
a little over a year ago, I endorsed Angela, and
I remember people came up to me and they're like, listen,
you know, in open races, and because again I was
new to politics, we were like, we're just giving you a
little bit of advice. In open races, generally sitting governors
do not get involved in primaries. They don't endorse. And
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you saw other races around the country where the governor
did not endorse in a primary and they just stayed
out and they waited for the for the primary to
be done. And I told him, I was like, listen,
I really appreciate your counsel and I really appreciate your advice,
and I'm supporting Angelo's books. It's both because she is
she is going to be a remarkable senator, smart tested,
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and it's also because this moment was not I could
not just sit silent in a moment when I knew
everything that was at stake that we do know that
this is about electing someone who is just who is
going to be amazing to serve as my states, you know, senator,
And my relationship with my senators and my Congression delegation
is incredibly important. As the governor, we have a very
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tight relationship with them, and it's important. But it's also
because it does not make sense to want to support
Kamala Harris with the President of the United States and
then also say, but I also want a Republican Senate,
because that's exactly what happens.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Evangel Alsobrooks does not win this race.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
We now have a Republican Senate who will turn around,
led by Mitch McConnell and Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz
and all these people who will basically turn around and
try to block everything that is trying to happen. You
can't say that I am for reproductive health and I'm
for reproductive rights. In the ballot we have in the
state of Maryland. Question one is to put reproductive health
in our state's constitution. You can't say I'm for that
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and then say, but I want to have a Republican
Senate who is then going to put together a national
abortion band and supersede anything that we turn around and pass.
And so I was really proud where you know, she
ran it. She won a very tough primary where you
know she was down by double digits and pulled together
a remarkable win.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
But this is going to be a fight, and the
fight is worth it.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And so for even people who are not in Maryland,
I was asking go to check out Angela Alsobrooks dot com, uh,
and just really learn about this. This remarkable sister who
you know and who understands you know. I became only
the third African American ever elected governor in the history
of this country. Uh, the only in the first in
my state. But I remember coming in and saying, you know,
while I'm proud to be the first, I know that's
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not the assignment.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
We got work to do.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
And I know that both for Angela and also for
for Lisa, who again is another one. Please check out
Lisa bon Rochester. I mean, the Senate is not ready
for these two. I can't wait.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
No, they need to be ready.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
They need to be read for these too. They need
to be ready for these too.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
But I'm telling you they're they're both spectacular and but
they're also coming in saying, yes, what they're doing is
uh is shattering at glass ceiling.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But they also know that's not the assignment.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Are you concerned about the interest that folks have in
the former governor Larry Hogan, who is also a Brooks
opponent in this race. You talked about obstruction when you
think about what he did with the red Line in Maryland,
turning down a returning nine hundred million dollars to the
federal government after President Obama's administration gave that grant to
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Maryland to sure of job opportunities.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
I know you've brought it back in the form of
a light rail.
Speaker 9 (16:10):
Can you talk about why his candidacy would be a
problem for Maryland?
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Yeah, I mean seemingly forgot.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, that's and that's I think for a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
That's what's so frustrating about politics for them is how
people can just so easily and freely switch and move
positions without any any understanding and justification law right.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
With the exception it's it's an election season.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
James Baldwin has this quote that I love where he says, uh,
I can't believe what you say because I see what
you do right, and I think that when we're looking
about the old governor, that's exactly what we're talking about,
where you can't tell me that you are now suddenly
pro choice when when you actually were in power, you
vetoed legislation around enhancing privacy, You vetled legislation around enhancing
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protection that that on my first day of office, I
released three and a half million dollars of previously unreleased
fun to be able to help train providers so people
could actually safely safely have their reproductive health respected. Because
he wouldn't release that money because of political reasons that
you can't tell me that you're now going to focus
on public safety and focus on violence when the entire
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time while you were the governor, the homicide rate in
the state of Maryland nearly doubled.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
You can't change this mind ouse people to use the
same rhetoric against the vice president.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, no, but by no, there's a difference between.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
There's a difference between saying that I continue to think
about these issues and learn about these issues and having
fundamental shifts and values. You know, I think about it
for myself, right I am when I think about what
it is that we're getting done in the state of Maryland.
I can be flexible on tactics, but I'm unbendable on values.
My values are my values. The things I stand for
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are the things that I stand for. We're not watching
a flexibility on tactics here. We are watching a fundamental difference.
You can't while you're the governor, while the old governor's
in there, say I'm I'm not going to sign legislation
around ghost guns and getting these illegal guns out of
our neighborhoods and off of our streets. You cannot say
that there's a plan that you have to be able
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to solve the issue of violence Prome when frankly, for
eight years you gave thoughts and prayers and attended funerals,
but pass ninety single piece of legislation that actually makes
our community safer. Since our administration has come on board,
Maryland has had amongst the fastest drops in homicides and
violent crime in this entire country. The last time the
homicide rate was this low in Baltimore City, I wasn't
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born yet. Because when we came on board, we were like, na,
we're not just doing thoughts and prayers. We're actually going
to work in partnership with locals, working partnership with local
law enforcement, having increased technology and predictive analytics, being able
to work with community groups and community violence prevention groups,
working with the Mayor of Baltimore, and working with our
other local jurisdictions. And we have now seen and again,
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I look at these numbers. I mean I'm a data nerd.
I look at these numbers constantly. We're now down twenty
nine nine percent this year year on year, and that's
after historic drops from the year before. So we're showing
that you can do two things at once you can
both respect people's constitutional authorities and constitution belief, you can
still respect people in their communities and also making people
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safer and respecting and being able to reinforce law enforcement,
and you don't have to choose between those things. That's
something that Angela also brooks. In the case of Maryland,
while she was a state's attorney, the violent crime rate
in Prince George's county was cut by half while she
was a state's attorney. So she is a track record
of making us safer. The old governor does not. There's
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a lot that he is to account for. And so
that's what I mean by I can't believe what you
say because I see what you do where these track
records are coming to light. And that's why I think
that people are people gonna back Angela.
Speaker 10 (19:48):
When you talk about the track records, I instantly just
think about a conversation we were having earlier with the
hurricane relief, like the conversations back and forth between Kamala
and DeSantis. Right, Why isn't it with across the board,
Why aren't something just common sense? Because me, if I'm
political and I'm working in the Maryland Baltimore area, crime
is the first thing I think of trying to solve.
That's common sense. Why don't they do that on these
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other levels, with these other issues like why isn't it
just this is what people need, let's figure it out.
Speaker 8 (20:14):
Why why is it so hard?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
No, it's a great point because I think one thing
I've learned about in this world of governance, it's all
about prioritization. What do you hold yourself to account to
and what are the things that you are going to prioritize.
And so when we came in, we were very clear,
you know, the top priority for how we're going to
do our work is making sure that people feel safer
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in their communities and in their neighborhoods. And that's why
we really took and all of the above approach and
the way that we're going to go about this work.
But it was centered on one thing, humanity. It was
centered on this idea of who is it that we
are trying to support? And I know that I have
seen that throughout our time as government. If you never
forget who you're fighting for, you won't stop fighting, and
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you'll continue to come up with ways and making sure
that you're centering here humanity inside of that work. And
so whether you're talking about making sure that kids are
safe in their classrooms, whether you're talking about people have
a chance to respond when these when these natural disasters
come on, you know, come on board. Whether it's making
sure that people have broadband access and that you're having
a technological revolution, that you're not just completely leaving people behind,
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whether it's making sure that you're investing in health care
and not just not just health care in the in
certain parts of the state, but really making sure that
every part of your state is getting the health care
needs that can help them to not just thrive but
also but also truly grow inside that community. So I
think you've got to center your work on humanity and
never forget why you've gotten his business in the first place.
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And I think for a lot of people that is
a real challenge for them.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Can we go back to the pre governor Wes Moore?
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Yeah, you know, because you know you said you never
ran for any office, right and I knew you from
being the CEO.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Of the Robbinoe Foundation last time I was here, That's right.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
So what made you want to run for governor and
what made you feel qualified for governor?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
MM? Qualified.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, It's funny because I remember when I got
in the race, there were three statewide elected officials, two
cabinet secretaries, one person that was on my board, which
made board meetings very awkward.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I remember that was the argument they kept.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
On throwing at me about you know, well, you know he,
how's he qualified? And I said, let me explain something,
And I said, I'm a kid who you know, watched
my father die in front of me when I was
three years old because he didn't get the health care
he needed. That I'm a person who had handcuffomeder wrists
when I was eleven because I came up in communities
that were overpolaced, and we knew it that my mother
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did not get her first job that gave her benefits
until I was fourteen. And by the way, this is
a woman who went on earning master's degree. So any
conversations about inequitable pay between men and women or the
racial wealth gap, it's like, I don't need a white
paper to explain that that I'm a person who' drowed
the army when I was seventeen, that I led soldiers
in combat. I you know, I worked in finance, I
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ran my own business, sold that business and turn around
and with CEO of one of the largest poverty fighting
organizations in this country. And my argument to them was
I am never in a remando belonging, and let's be clear,
I'll put my qualifications against any of them. And we
ended up winning with more individual votes than anyone who'd
ever run for governor in the history of the state
of Maryland. And I think about the thing that really
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motivated me. And it's funny because we talked a little
bit about it last time I was here. Where who
sits in these seats? It does matter, and what they
prioritize does matter. And I remember, you know, one of
the issues that I will never I will never losing
importance of it. I do not understand why in this
country we allow child poverty. I don't get how we're
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allowing the destiny of our children to be determined before.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
They even have a say, right, and.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So chop poverty thoughts with adults being poort.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Right, Well, that's exactly right, and we can get a nap.
But and so so I said. And when I was
even working over at Robinhood, I was like, Okay, we're
going to focus on the issue of the child tax credit.
And the big reason because I thought about over thirty
years of philanthropy, the Robin Hood is done remarkable work
that Robin Hood has done that an adjustment on the
child tax credit could literally sixfold every and we're talking
billions that robin Hood has done in its history. An
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adjustment of a child tax credit, making it fully refundable,
paying it out monthly would actually have more of an
impact on child poverty by sixfold than what they've done
over thirty years. And so this is the argument that
I was pushing about why policy matters. I was speaking
with a former governor about this issue, and I was
trying to explain to him the details of the child
tax credit, why this thing was so important, and I
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literally told me, I said, you should talk about it
in your state of the state. I was like, here's
a line you should use. And I got an advanced
copy of the state of the state address and I
realized there was nothing in there about the child tax credit.
There was nothing in there about child poverty. So I'm pissed, right,
So I call up the head of policy at the organization.
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I ran and I'm just ranting, and then Finally, when
I breathed, he said to me, he said, listen, we've
worked for six months to try to get them to
include a line in the speech. Well what if you
could write the whole speech? And that's the point. The
reason we have these discrepancies is not just because these
are policies that will allow this to happen. The reason
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that we had in my state of eight to one
racial wealth gap is not because one group is working
eight times harder. It's because of the Homestead Act, and
it's because of unfair appraisal, unfair appraisal values and historically
red line neighborhoods. And it's because an unfair usage of
the GI Bill, and it's because of racist procurement policies.
So if we understand that policies help to create these dynamics,
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it has to be policies that have to then unearth them.
And so when I gave my first State of the
State address, you know, we spent probably a quartet thing
talking about child poverty and about how we were going
to make the most aggressive and bipartisan push in our
state's history to end child poverty. And that's exactly what
we've done. And so the big reason why I decided
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to get into this is if you aren't talking about
policy on these issues, then you can do philanthropy all
you want. You can do all that. So you're blue
in the face. There is not enough philanthropy in the
world to upend bad policies, and so policymakers have got
to get in the game. And that's why I just
said that. Uh, I'm as qualified as any of them.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
That's right.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
You. Since writing the book the other Wes More being
a White House fellow, a Rhodes scholar, I think folks
have always asked you about your political ambitions. Being on
the short list as a VP contender, do you have
aspirations to at some point run for president.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I'm cut it out with.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Yeah, I don't buy it either out and so why
not like you, I.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Mean, eight years from now, no sure, and listen, I'm
I'm I know, never mind me, it's some point.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, no, listen, I know.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I'm happy to think you were gonna run for governor too.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
And that's and that's the point, right, So I so
I know, listen, I mean, I'm forty five. I mean,
I'm one of the youngest governors in the country, right,
and I love the work that we're doing in Maryland.
Maryland's just moving faster than everybody in the country if
you look at everything we are doing, from advancing economic opportunities,
to creating pathways for work, wages and wealth, to removing
the barriers that exist for people to go into a workforce,
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the work we've done around criminal justice reform. I mean,
I'm really proud of the work that Maryland's doing.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
I think, but asking you if you have aspirations at
some point to run for president isn't poop pooting your
work in Maryland. Saying if you're if you have the
approval rating you have right now, which is high, you've.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
Garnered the most amount of support than.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
Any other governor who's ever ran in your gubernatorial race,
why not to Lauren's question, now.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Well, I think so. I think for me it's really twofold.
One is my exclusive focus is on making sure to
Kamala Harris is the next president. Noted states I can't
streuss enough how import it's to my state, to my
community that she is the person who becomes the next president.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
But we're saying, at some point, if we if we
know that if she does not win, there won't be another.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Election to win, which is what she needs.
Speaker 8 (28:13):
No right, I'm.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
Saying if we know from the statements of the former
president that if he wins, there will not be another election.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
That is a quote, so we know the importance of
her winning. We're not. I'm not saying that. I'm just
saying why not? Lauren said why not?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Well, you know, and I think I think for me
and I don't. I don't have an answer, and honestly,
it's because I just haven't.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Put enough thought into it.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
So, for example, Elijah Cummings was a was like my
guy when a mentor mind congressman from from Baltimore, and
I remember.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
After he passed, there are people who came.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Up to me and were like, listen, you know, what
do you think about running for elijah seat.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He was a mentor of mind.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
And I didn't do it because it's not that I
don't love Elijah and it's not that I don't want
to make sure that his legacy is not honored. It
just wasn't speaking to me. But when I decided I
was running for governor, you couldn't have convinced me not
to run. When they're like this person's think about getting
in and this person's the former head of the DNC,
and this person, I said, good, I look forward to
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see him in the battle. You know what I mean,
because I knew that's what I wanted to do, and
no one could have convinced me differently. So I'm very
at peace with saying if I'm not in it, I'm
not in it.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And I'm good with that.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
And I can tell you right now that's why when
I say my focus is really on making sure that
Kamala Harris who comes to next president United States, Like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
That, I believe you.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
But I'm gonna tell you something about eleven years ago,
maybe longer, John Sykes when he introduced me, he said,
he I want you to meet somebody. I need you
to connect with this brother named Wes Moore. He's going
to be the next Barack Obama.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
That's how you were introduced to me twelve years ago.
So people clearly see that esque.
Speaker 8 (29:58):
It's because it feels like you really care about the people.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And I don't think it's good you're black either.
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Yeah, I think it's just I'm not trying to anybody.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
I knew that was, but I think at that point,
only having one people say based on what they know,
Like we know Kamala Harris also isn't gonna be the
next Barack Obama.
Speaker 8 (30:14):
She's gonna be the first Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So yeah, I think this is just like I don't
see that my calls right now, but four years ago.
Right now, I gotta.
Speaker 8 (30:25):
I'm not thinking about it right now. So they don't
run this clip back. I would say, they're gonna bring it.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Up and be like, well, you said, you know, And
I mean what I say.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
It's like when when when I'm when I'm locked into something,
I'm locked in, and I'm locked in to be in
the governor of the state of Maryland, and I mean,
I am. I look at what we're doing right now.
This really is gonna be Maryland's decade. This is gonna
be our time because it's the time we're just gonna
lead with love and honesty and and I'm really proud
of the results we've gone so far, and I think
the people of Maryland are very happy with it.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
One thing you've done that is great.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
You pardoned one hundred and seventy five thousand Mariulana, Maryland
convictions related to the possession of weed, including convictions for
mister Meta possession of weed in certain convictions for mister
Media possession of drug prawer familia.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
What led you to do that? Well, you know, it's funny.
It was something that I've been talking about long before
I ever decided to run for office. I do not understand.
There's a few things I just don't get. One is
how cannabis is in the same classification level as heroin.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
That just makes absolute no sense.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
And the other piece was, as we were having this
larger movement that was taking place around how people were
just completely not acknowledging history and how cannabis was just
consistently used as a cudgel, particularly in black communities.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
And so you know, cannabis.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Was actually on the ballot in the state of Maryland
in fact, so I ended up getting, you know, more
individual votes that year than anybody else. The only thing
that beat me on the ballot that year was cannabis.
Cannabis one was seventy percent of the vote. So I'm like, yo,
who is cannabis now popular?
Speaker 9 (32:00):
When I brought up pardons, and I do want to
ask you, this one isn't in your purview per se.
But there's a federal pardon that I think many of
us are still seeking, and that's for Marilyn Moseby. She
submitted a parton application that included attorneys like Barry Scheck
from the Innocents Project, Ben Crump, who's a legendary civil
rights attorney, Barbara Armwine, legendary voting rights activists who worked
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hand in hand with Marylynd. Can you talk about the
importance of Joe Biden partnering her before his ten years up?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yeah, you know, and and I've said, I mean, this
is this one's personal because what was your friends?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I've noticed little girls and say it was little girls.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
And uh, in fact, I remember last time I was
on the show, I remember talking about the role that
she played in just calming our community where there's this
narrative that was taking place after everything that happened with
Freddy Gray, that you know that there were protests and
then on the night of Freddie Gray's funeral, how it
became violent and you had this you have this unrest
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that took place and and people talk about how and
then the National Guard was called in. People say, well,
it's good that the National Guard got called in because
that's what calmed everything down. That's actually not true, because
the truth is they are going to have the biggest
protests since that entire thing happened on that Saturday after
the National Guard got called in.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Militarization does not produce calm. Hearing a community does. And
the reason that there was calm was because Marilyn Moseby
came out and actually said that we need to have accountability.
And then she brushed arginal on the officers. So the
thing that I would say about it is this, and
again it is it is. It's both personal, So I
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try to separate myself from what the personal is. UH.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
And I know that this is a uh, it's not
a state decision.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
This is something that falls exclusively in the in the
hands of the other president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I just keep on thinking about these kids. I keep
thinking about her uh, her.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
And Nick's daughters. I keep on thinking about the public
servants that they have been in.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
These are two people.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Who have devoted their lives to be able to support
the people of Baltimore. Her as the former States Attorney,
him is now the city council president. And I just
hope as as all these decisions are being made that
compassion and grace is just not lost.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
So you feel Biden should give her a part.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I can't tell the President of United States what to do.
I just hope compassion and grace he has never lost
in these decision making process.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I do want to ask you about the state decision.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
How come we can't well, how come you can't pardon
all non violent marijuana offenses period.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Across the world.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Well, actually, so if you look at the pardon that
we did and so yeah, so going back, So what
ended up happening was we spent the past year doing
what many people believe to be the most equitable and
safe and successful rollout for recreational cannabis in the country.
So now in the state of Maryland, we have a
new billion dollar industry for cannabis. Of the new licenses,
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one hundred and seventy four new social equity licenses have
put together, and by the way, over one hundred of
them have been new black owners in the cannabis market.
So we've really set the standard on what that looks like.
But my big thing was this, you cannot celebrate the
benefits of legalization if you do not address the consequences
of criminalization if you do not address the fact that
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there are thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds, thousands of people
whose lives have now been immeasurably changed and altered because
of something that is no longer even illegal in our
communities anymore. And so the reason that we led you know,
I ended up partnering one hundred and seventy five thousand
cannabis com It's the largest mass part in the history
of this country. And where I know that we can't
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be done either when we're thinking about this. In fact,
just this past week, you know, I just just excuse
the fees for people who you know, violational role and
drug testing, because again it's something that continues to be
used as a cudgel to keep people criminalized. And you
can't make every sentence a life sentence. And so the
reason that we've moved so aggressively on this issue, and
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now we're going to continue working with the legislature because
some of the stuff is gubernatorial authority, like executive orders,
some of this stuff has to get pass through the legislature.
So now we're working with our legislative partners to make
sure that we can really deal with this issue of
long term expungement is because it's both about fairness and
also it's about economics. I am focused on getting people
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back into the workforce. And if you look at what
we've done within our state, that we have quadrupled the
amount of people in our trade and apprenticeship programs, that
we have created, the first time in this country, that
we now have a service year option for all of
our high school graduates, giving them a chance to have
a year of paid service to the State of Maryland.
That we made historic investments in childcare, the largest singular
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investments in childcare in our state's history. Because if you
really want to get people back into the workforce, particularly
young parents, particularly young particularly women, you must fund childcare.
Because asking people to make a decision between is my
child going to be okay? Or am I going to
go to the work or are gonna go to work
is not a fair ask. And the big thing about
the pardons was it now allowed.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
People to get back into the workforce. One of the
people I pardoned.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
That day was a guy named Shiloh who was standing
with me. Shiloh, the only thing on his record is
a misdemeanor cannabis conviction, and he now has had an
inability to find stable work since. I mean he literally
had a job. He's talking about a job that he
had that was a great job for him. He was
fired on the second day because he couldn't pass a
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background check. This is crazy what we've done to communities.
And so I look at this, what we've done around
criminal justice reform, what we've done around the pardons is
is not just about it's the socially right thing to do,
it's the economically smart thing to do. Because if you
look at where our staates right now. When I was
first inaugurated, Maryland was forty third in the coin in unemployment. Now,
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going on thirteen straight months, Maryland has amongst the lowest
unemployment rates in the entire country. Our unemployment right now,
right now in Maryland is two point nine percent. If
you want to create a growing economy, you must create
an inclusive economy. And I want more people to have
the opportunity to get back into the work.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
So I agree, But I agree, but will it'll be
bigger than just simple possession, Like is there a way
to do just non violent marijuana offensive?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (38:27):
And these are things that I and again part of
it's working with the legislature because part of these things
you have to actually change laws, and that requires the
legislature involved. But I don't think that just doing the
the while it was the largest in the country's history,
that was also an important first stept.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
But we're not.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Done because you have to create a system. And here's
the thing. Here's the thing that also I want to
be able to prove that we can do two things
at once, right, because when people we came on board,
people said, there's two challenges.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
That Maryland's facing.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
One, Maryland had this explode crime rate, homicide rates. Again,
like I mentioned before, Baltimore went eight straight years of
three hundred plus homicides.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So we have to address the violence.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
And we had to address the fact that Maryland incarcerated
more African American men between the ages of eighteen and
twenty five than any place in this country.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
By the way, Number two was Mississippi. Maryland was number one.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
And so I said, we've got to be able to
address these two things at the same time, that we
can yes, both address the issue of violence and also
not think that the answer is just locking up black boys.
And so I think one thing we've been able to
show in our work is yes, we can be humane
about the way we deal with things like parens and
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expungements and getting people back into a workforce and cutting
down on the recidivism rate. Yes, we can also make
sure that we are making have made historic investments in
local law enforcement and utilization of technology, and making sure
that you are getting violent offenders and repeat violent offenders
off of our streets, and so addressing these two things
at the same time, that argument of locking up more
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black men is not going.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
To make you safer.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
And I think the thing that we're showing in the
state of Maryland is you can do both of those things,
to both those two things, addressed the incarceration rates and
make your community safer at the same time.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
I was gonna ask, you know, Governor Wes Moore, why
is it working in Maryland and not in a.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Lot of these other cities and states. So what would you.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Tell to some of these other mayors and governors who
are having the same problems you have when you first
came in And crime is high, and unemployment and people
can't find jobs, and people are dealing with immigrants and
migrants coming over, and people are dealing with you know,
they can't afford their homes, can't afford food, can't afford gas.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
What do you tell those city officials?
Speaker 5 (40:43):
I would say, always leave with data and don't let
the politics get away to stuff man, because I think
part of the problem is people get caught up in
these talking points and these policy issues about like what
does ex party think?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Or what is why party think?
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Or this and that, And I'll say, we have but
a certain amount of time in these jobs, right I'm
you know, I know because I have a clock on
my desk about how much time I have left on
my first term. Don't waste a single one of those days.
And so I think the reason that we've been able
to get the things done we've been able to get
done is because we leave with data.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
You know.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
The reason that I was unapologetic when I talk about
things like how I want Maryland to be the state
that ends the racial wealth gap, and people said, well,
isn't that a binary choice? And I said no. But
the thing is is that what we have right now
is a binary system. The reason I want Maryland to
be a state that ends a racial wealth gap is
because I believe in growing the economy that the racial
wealth gap has cost this country sixteen trillion dollars in
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GDP over the past two decades. That's not gross semester
product of a group.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
I've heard you say that racism is expensive as well.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
It is terribly expensive. And so the reason that I'm
saying so be unapologetic.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
And say it.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Talk about the issues of racism and bigotry.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Talk about how you're going to address things like a
broken and a racist procurement policy. The reason that we
have gone, you know, in our in our state, just
since I've been the governor, we have we have shifted
the way we look at procurement. Right now, we've allocated
over two and a half billion dollars towards mv s
and black.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Owned businesses and and and it's.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Not because we're showing favorite sism, because it's that we
actually believe that's helping to grow the economy. And it
is when you're giving more people opportunities, when you stop
giving away free waiver processes. And so the thing I
would just ask people is lead with data and don't
be afraid to be bold, like go after big problems,
because if that's not what you're doing, then why bother
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why are you even sitting in the seat?
Speaker 4 (42:38):
He has to go in the second side.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
I got, I got to I'm good, I got. I
got two that I really really want to ask. One
is Maryland voters just I saw them approve of your
performance in a recent poll, but they were split on
the economy. And it bugs me out because why why
is there a perception that Democrats are not good in
regards to the economy when the US economy performs better
under Democratic president I don't.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I don't thin we talk about it the right way, man,
We really don't, and we excuse it, you know, I
don't understand when we're having these conversations. So, for example,
we've made historic investments in childcare in our state, right,
we made historic investments in apprenticeship and trade programs. We
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made a historic investments in getting people back into the workforce.
We've raised the minimum wage because I just believe deeply
that gone should be the days when you have people
who are working jobs and in some cases multiple jobs,
and still living at or below a poverty line. That
we just passed the most aggressive housing package of any
Maryland governor in recent history, and focusing on things like
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turning renters into homeowners, focusing on things like unfair appraisal
values and historically red lined neighborhoods, being able to create
capital and liquidity for first time home buyers, and particularly
first time home buyers oftentimes or home buyers of color
inside of communities. And what has happened is this unemployment
rate has now dropped to historically low levels. We're now
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watching economic growth and we're watching green shoots of new
industries that people are actually participating in. And you know
what I'm doing, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about
the fact that these policies matter, that us being able
to create pathways to work and wages and wealth is
actually the truest destination. And what we're talking about what
it means to have good policy. You've got to actually
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talk about it and not and and and let the
data then speak for itself. But if if you're not
talking about it and you let other people define your narrative,
then yeah, of course things are horrible and it's all
the Democrats fault. But we're not gonna let that happen.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
All right.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
My last question, I saw you on Face the Nation
and I loved what you said. You said that Democrats
have to earn the blackmail vote. What does earning that
vote look like? It means going out and actually going
to seek and speak to it. You know, you're not
going to win this race by great commercials.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
And they're effective though if they're great, if they're great,
but I mean, but that's but eventually people are just
going to hear this stuff so much as gonna get
drowned down. And it's like I will hear a commercial
that says one thing and then literally the next commercial
says something that's the absolute opposite.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And so if I'm not a person who's.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Really into this, what am I supposed to take away
from that?
Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's not how you're going to win this race, you know.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
And I think about it for our race where you know, I,
you know, we did very very well with young.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Voters and black voters and all kind of stuff when
I ran for governor. But it was because I was black.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
And it wasn't because I was you know, now one
of the youngest governments in the country.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
It's because we went earned it.
Speaker 5 (45:33):
We actually went to communities and we talked about issues,
and we talked about issues that matter, and we talked
about in a real way we talked about why you know,
when I'm speaking about wealth and wealth creation that I'm
not What I'm talking about is do you have the
ability to own more than you owe? Do you have
the ability to pass something off to your children besides
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debt that it's the basic asset that you can have
something in your life that can give your family a
little bit of wiggle room. And you know, when we
talk about housing, I talk about the fact that you know,
I had to y'all know, I had some issues coming up,
and my mother was trying to send me to this
military school. You know, ever since I was like eight,
and every year she threatened me, and every year I
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couldn't go. And it wasn't because she's a woman who
makes false threats, because she does not make false threats.
She couldn't afford it. And then finally, when I was
eleven years old, sorry after eleven, and then twelve, and
then when I was thirteen, fourteen years old, my mother
was finally like, I can't do this, and I'm gonna send.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
You to this military school. But do you know how
she was able to do it.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
She started asking people inside of her church if they
could help, and people gave it a little bit where
they could help whatever like that, but she was still
thousands of dollars short. My grandparents, my grandfather was the
first one in my family in my mom's side of
the family, born in this country, born in South Carolina,
and the klu Klux Klan ran them out, moved back
to Jamaica, and much of my family said we will
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never come back to this country, which my family is not.
Much of him in still in Jamaica.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
That's why you said ting earlier. Yes, yes, I thought
he was drinking and dry.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
But but he did come back. Uh.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
And as he always said, you know, I say, you know,
he had a deep Jamaican accent his entire life. And
I think he's maybe the most patriotic American I've ever met.
He loves this country, loved this country. My grandmother born
in Cuba, raised in Jamaica, immigrated to this country. And
when they came to this country, he was a minister,
she was a school teacher, and they bought a little
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small home in the Bronx because that was their way
of actually.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Owning a piece of this country.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
And when my mother needed help, and my mother needed
a little extra money, they ended up taking money out
of their home to then help to pay for that
first year of school, which ended up changing the trajectory
of my life.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
I bring that up for this reason. We're just asking.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
People to to give people a little bit of breathing room.
We're just asking that we can just give people a
little bit of hope, and it's a little something hold
on to and be proud of. And so I think
as we are talking about what does it mean to
go earn the vote, You're not going to earn the
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vote by slogans. You're not going to earn the vote
by commercials. You're gonna go earn the vote by looking
people in the eye and saying not just why these
policies are going to be better and beneficial for you.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
In your life, but it's.
Speaker 5 (48:35):
Gonna be really good to have a leader who actually
sees you. It's gonna be really good to have a
leader who actually believes in you, who's willing to fight
for you, who when the doors are closed and the
decisions are being made, that you can say, you know
what she's thinking about me and my family when those
doors are closed, and the decisions that she makes are
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going to be in the best censurest of not only now,
but the best interests of the future.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
And so I just think right now we got a moment.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
Well, we got a whole lot of people who came
before us who are looking at us and asking us,
what are you going to do? Are you gonna take
this moment seriously or not? And I think we got
a whole lot of people who are gonna come after us,
who are looking at us and saying, exhaust yourself because
my future should matter to you that much. And that's
why I think that we're gonna do what we gotta do,
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because that's the assignment.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Well, Governor Wes Moore for President for twenty thirty two. Ladies,
Governor Wes Moore, Ladies and gentlemen, we.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
And you know, anytime you're in town, pull up on us.
You know, we don't like the zoom stuff, so you
got to pull up.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
On this saying you're busy.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
So you know, y'all should come. Y'all should come down
to Annapolis. You come down to Maryland.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
We love it there. Are you related to Jess because
Jess last name?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
But no, no I'm not.
Speaker 5 (49:51):
But she's she's she's my cousin in my head. She's
my crazy I tell you what. Baltimore, we're prodigested.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, we're prodigest.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
She'll be back, so yeah, yeah, she roughs us, she
rops well.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
It's Governor Wes Moore. It's the Breakfast Club, the Morning.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
The Breakfast Club.