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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody in Steve j Envy, Jess hilarious. I mean the
guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got some special
guests in the building. Yeah, you know, from the shot
to shot returns made tenth we have Jacob Batimore and
Luke Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, absolutely welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Y'all been doing the show so long, you went from
linear television to streaming.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And now we're super grateful.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Man, like, man, this is beyond what we expected. You know,
it's just every season we're like, man, it's just the
last one.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
It's our last round. But you know, it's been going,
it's been going. We're really excited, especially for a black show.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
Yeah, around for six seasons out here for sure, all
of television, we're still here. Yeah, I mean that's you know,
that's a testament to our writers, to our creator, a
wave and common to our cast.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And to our fans. You know what I mean. It's
just in us continue continuing to expand, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, and we're still growing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
That's like usually see and sixty on, like the decline
is slowing down, but season six is our biggest season.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you know, what I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
And shout out to Paramount plus. We excited to be
on a new platform.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Man, absolutely, they kne who was here earlier this week,
Mortisen saying that he's in the shot.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
How I was working with Man, We just we just love.
I don't have any scene. I'm mad. I don't want
to say too.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Much, but you know, it is it is amazing to
just kind of be in the same presence with them
and just for them to be excited to be on
our show because we've been watching them.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
This is these people grew up watching.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
These are people who you know, laid the foundation for
us to even be right here talking about any of this.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's it is.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
It is a moment of reflecting, a moment to reflect,
you know, just to be grateful and thank God just
to persevering.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And and having a dream and then looking at making
it full circle.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Man, to be working with people that you've been watching forever,
it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, No, it's been awesome.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Spoke of y'all the same way about working with him,
like he was so excited to work.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
With Yeah, we just we're just grateful. Like another one
of our guest stars that we haven't even announced it.
He texted me, he was like, Bro, this is the
set y'all have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's just it's.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Blessed man like the energy from hair and makeup to wardrobe.
So we just we're just grateful because it's not always
like that, you know what I mean, Like it's every
every set is different. You got you got people coming
from all walks of life and coming together to work
with each other for four or five months out the year.
And you know what I mean, It's it's not always easy,
but we were blessed.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
With the guest that text you.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Why can't you say, yeah, he's special.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
It's a great reveal. Yeah, during the during the during
the season. But I mean, you know, we got the great,
the beautiful, brilliant, great Lynn Winfield. You know we got
Leon gray Man, we Goton.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'll take that, and I take that like I'm talking
about any other phenomenal. There's something y'all got, like the
same aesthetic in a way.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I receive that watching the means definitely deptations. I was
definitely do that. Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody come to see you.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm like, yeah, nobody come to see man.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
And he's brilliant man to be working with him. I mean,
I've had a lot of scenes with him, man, and
it's just awesome. Bro, just to be able to sit
across somebody.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
He's a cool dude, super I mean, like it's really real.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
He come on to the he come into the makeup trailers,
he just got smooth.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'm like, oh, it's really leon like as hell.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm gonna lean into that as I can a little,
you know, get a little old.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
How change your lives though?
Speaker 7 (03:35):
What h.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
I got, I could I could pay for a house,
life insurance.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
It's a it's a show that's grounded in reality. It's
not exactly it's not completely escapism, and so we get
an opportunity to not only stretch as artists, but as
human beings.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
It's definitely deepen my wealth of empathy for just all
walks of life, to just be able to hold space
for everybody. And it's just opened my eyes to the
world in the sense of how I thought. You know,
I'm from New Orleans and I feel away about my
city in such a way and that we're so different
from anywhere else. And to be able to be smack
(04:23):
dab in the middle of a show that is in
a sense of a love letter to Chicago, to the
South Side, to the people of the Shy, and also
in a sense of protest to humanize black folks in
the black experience.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's awesome.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I've been able to dive into a different culture, which
is you know, kindred to mine, you know, And that's
I think the connective tissues and which is awesome about
such a show. That's what it does for us. When
when I'm in New Orleans and I'm watching The Shy,
I'm like, oh, like that's like here, it's not that
much different.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Everybody is just looking for a space to be seen
and felt and protected.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean just going through the airports, being on
the airplane and just i mean going to a restaurant.
Just also seeing different different demographics, even enjoying the show.
Like I was at a sushi spot. I ain't you know,
I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
No, ain't. No. Black people were good.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And then just the way there was aging. He was like, man,
you this guy from the shot. I'm like, oh wow.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So yeah, yeah, like he was like oh man.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
But it was like I'm like, I'm I'm shocked at
the like the show is growing and then like my
name is like I really like they say it, I'm like, yo,
I like really, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Your character resonates.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I mean if you watched from season one all the
way to season six, I mean it, like just the
growth in the character and whatnot. I'm just grateful to
be a part of that, part of this lineage, part
of this show. I mean, it's been awesome.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
How much input does Lena let you have, like with
you know, a script, contributing to script or like the
actual story, do you have any love?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean we definitely, Like if I'll ask a question,
you know, I like to respect the writer's room, you
know what I mean, I definitely because we're here for
a reason and what we got is working, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So we let the writers do what they do. We'll
have questions and say, hey, why did do this or and.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
It'll give me a better understanding of how to approach
that scene that day and then they'll give me a
better breakdown.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But they're open to it.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But I like to respect the lanes because I'm coming
here to bring what they write to life, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
So that's the challenge, that's the work, and that's why
you get paid to be able to interpret. But also,
you know, we live with these characters and we have
you know, we can hear their voices when we read
something we could you know, it's pretty open in the
sense of like, oh, maybe not that particular word or
that particular phrasing in that kind of way, or that
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particular action. But for the most part, yeah, it's we
let the writers do what they do and we do
what we do. And also they see the full spectrum
for us, you know, because that's why every season is different,
and they help us grow because sometimes you could just
be stuck in this character in this space for where
you just were and when you read it, and then
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when you're able to talk to Leana and everybody, they
help you understand, Oh, okay, it's a new chapter. It's
three years now, it's you know, months down the line,
so he's different, you know. So you just got to
let everybody do their job and we don't.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Actually, I never feel like I'm coming back to the
same character every year, you know, because that could be
you could feel repetitive, like every season it has been
different for me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Is there anything that you didn't want to do, like
a kadem Hartis who was saying. He was like, he
hated those glasses.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
He was hated them and maybe look goofye the first
glasses were.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
One of the biggest things that's but he was like,
and I think he only said they kept the glasses
for one season or two seasons, but it had so
much impact on it. And then it was like when
it was time for him to grow, they were like,
we want him to grow and he was cool with that.
So is anything that they were we want you to
do and he was like ah. And then they find
up like, oh, you probably.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Haven't had something like that since season one when they
was like, had my hair blonde, tipping my hair is blinde.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I was like, we gotta go blind, and we want
aim to go blind if it feels young and youthful.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
But other than that, you know, we definitely get some
say song like hey, I don't really like what I'm
wearing for this, you know why am I wearing this?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I'm in the house.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
There's a collaborative effort, but also also you know, they
also have an initiative for for all of us, and
you know, you know, we got a lot of youth
on the show as.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, and I hope they're from Chicago.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
That's the majority of our cast is from out to
chamont or Mikey and Panado natives, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But there's also initiative. There's an initiative if.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
You want to direct, if you want to write, you know,
there's they They've given us programs that we can align
ourselves with when we're all for when we have time,
that we can shadow other directors, writers, producers, and so
that's that's the that's the operation.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
It's a different it's a different ball game when you
say I want to produce something, you know, because I'm
even learning, uh like, because we we show up to
set the Red Carbs rode out for as our trailers
have said, the lines are there, the wardrobe is there,
but it's so much that goes on. It's it's prep
going on way before we get there, and that's the
work that that's that's the tough part. That's a different
You can't just walk into that and be like, oh,
(09:29):
I got it something you got to learn.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
How much is Leana still involved? Completely?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Yea completely, ain't nothing going down with in a sense
of like the creative aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Lena has her hands on it. On it all.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
You know, it's she just keeps us in line, in
line with everything going.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
On and keep us motivated to like six seasons is
like you know, we can people get comfortable, you know,
like yo yo yo, table reads. That's not sound lazy,
that's that's that sound up.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
We were up, We up.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I need to pick up. We had We had to
chop some things because someone someone you know, you know
what I mean. Keep it real, that's what you that's
what you want.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
And that's why the show lasts because it's no, nobody's
just like sugar coating anything. We're really they're really asking
for excellence out of all of us. You know, if
you're gonna be on here, you're gonna give everything you got.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Absolutely, no just.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
The final season because that's also been a room with that.
This is different.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We don't know y'all.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Y'all no, well no, we literally just finished like maybe
two months ago.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
But if we don't know that every year.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Like that was the last season last year, we really.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Be like yo, man, because I'm always prepped.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I'm always ready to pivot that next job, you know, acting, man,
we're just blessed, blessed to be working like this is
we were We understand that a lot of actors are
not working in the game right now, and it's it's
it's heavy. So we just, you know, if we get
another season, we grateful. If we don't, you know, we
just we're grateful.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We're grateful. The experience has been.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
To get past four or five is nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You get past a pilot, bro.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Yeah, okay, let's just hypothetically if this was the last season,
are you happy with how it turned out, with how
it ended?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
My thing is I've always wanted for me as a fan,
I've always wanted to see the kids at least move out,
like just go on.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I thought they should.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
And you know what I'm saying, because that's how much
they mean to the show.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And you never know.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
And it's good that you say that out loud, you know,
because people listening. But you know, for me, I just
want to at least at least if we go in,
let's get the kids out the house into a space
where it's like where as an audience, if we think
about the show, we can just our imagination can go
into a peaceful place where the kids survived after all
(11:57):
of it, all the things for six seasons they survived,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
And with that being said, what was the hardest scene
that you had to shoot, like emotionally for both of you.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I want to say, I want to say, this is
definitely my toughest season.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
It's just it's it's a lot of emotion.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's it's Yeah, the fans are gonna be on the
edge of the seat with this when nobody's safe.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Nobody's say if it's a struggle for powers, to struggle
for safety, to protect your family. I mean, there's a
lot on the line, and we all all.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Are tethered together, and.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
And in the sense we all have a commin enemy,
and we all got our ups and downs like every season,
but this one is really like asking a lot of
all of us, all our all of our characters.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's pretty it's pretty heavy. No.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, I even felt some days I had to kind
of come in method because I'm usually high energy every day.
So it was some days I'm like, man, I gotta
really just put them headphones on and lock in today
because it's this scene is gonna require a lot. Yes,
I'm happy though, I'm happy to do it on this
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show because most of the time has been very high
energy and jokes and laughs.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But it's getting real. It's getting real for.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's a new chapter for for all of us.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Now, Luke, your character has a type on the show, Yeah,
transgender women that he likes dating. Was that a conversation?
What was that conversation like when they presented that to you?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
That was that was the role when when the when
the request for a self tape came, that was the
breakdown of the character.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
So it's given to the artist. You know that this
is who this is who he is.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know. For everybody you know, you choose to do
it or choose not to do it.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
For me, I look at myself as an artist in totality,
and it's a matter of asking yourself, what type of
artists are you? You know, because you know it's it's
a matter of telling the truth. For me, if I
can breathe life into a character and be honest about
everything that that I'm reading and needing to say, go
for it. If it moves me in an emotional way,
(14:06):
I'm all about it. And that's why I love about
the show because it's just grounded in the reality of.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What our lives are, what they really look like.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
And it's not trying to be this fantasy of what
someone thinks it should look like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And now I was geeked about it.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
For me, it overall in totality, I think that the
role for me, I've never I had never played a
thug figure in that sense, and nobody understands how hard
that is if that's not really who you are.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That's a great point you bought, because nobody will say, Luke,
you had to play a thug? Was that tough for you?
But it's going to come to the transgender It's.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Like, look, it's hard to be in love. Is it
hard for you to be kind? Be a loving person
who is just searching for safe space? And it's not
a thing, it's not even on the table. This character
that for him, it wasn't a thing on the table
for him. He it has just been living his life.
If you if you think about all the characters, we
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all have these these ups and downs. Which is so
cool about this season. While we talk so much about
mental health within the season, we're not so we're not
preachy in our show, but but we're just going through
the motions as everyone does in real life, because we
all all value a safe space to be seen and
heard and felt and protected. And I'm really I really
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like the nuances of such a character.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
How do you protect your pieces of man? I totally
understand everything you're saying is an actor, but we still
live in a dickhead era. Yeah, we got all these
digital dickheads will get online. Oh yeah, that's what you went.
How do you protect your pieces of man?
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Bro, I really don't. I really don't subscribe to it.
I don't subscribe to that is.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm beyond that.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Like there have probably been, there was, there was a
moment in my life where that this I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I wouldn't have done this role.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
There's a moment in my life where I'm like, I'm not,
But never from an aspect of homophobia or anything like that.
From an aspect of my artistry. I don't know if
I don't know if my will is that deep enough
to to be as honest and truthful and as great
as I need to be in order to tell this
story and be well rounded.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But you know, over.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Time, experiences, you know, more experiences of doing things, and
then the questions of asking what type of vessel, what
type of artists I want to be.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, you get the opportunity. And then also you.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Have a creator that will text you as soon as
you send a tape in and tell you I'm holding
I'm going to hold a safe space for you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know I got you, Yes, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I got my hands on all of this, and this
is this is going to be a beautiful thing. And
I'm grateful for you to take a chance on this
and for me it's done again. It's deep in my
well of empathy. I just see the world differently, bro,
And I have no judgment. As an actor, you can't
really have to be able to tell the truth and
tell that character's story.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You can't really judge it.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
You just have to look at what they're what they're
going through, and say, damn, that's that's where he is.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But you know, the thing is, like what he said
is you look at actors before your time, they didn't
have to deal with the social media no, right, But
now every day, like even if somebody didn't like your character,
or let's say you did a bad job, it was
one day and gone. But now you got social media.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Every everybody's a critical day.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Everybody's a critic. Everybody feels like they could do a
better job, but he did it, or they can tell
you what to do. So that's where the mental comes in.
So to make sure that that doesn't affect you is
the thing. Because you want to do the character. You
don't want to be thinking about, well, what are they
going to say? You just want to do it a great.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Character both of you and we just understood acting back then.
I remember having a conversation with making good ones and
making good with saying how she has to be conscious
of the role she plays, because nowadays people think that's
actually you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, very true, Like, huh, it's very true.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Now I'm completely different from like I have no kids,
don't deal with no baby mama drama, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What I mean a lot of productions.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I mean, but it's like, you know, it's it's definitely
that though, And I've been learning that on this show,
Like man, people really approach us in that way as
if they know us because we live in their their
their homes with this show and it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I mean, you do it so well that part of
that gotta be true. But people don't understand about acting
the beautiful therapeutic point of it, and the fun of
it is the transformation, like taking seeing a role and not.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Seeing yourself in it and seeing someone else.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
In it and and seeing the challenge of understanding who
this human being is that is probably far from who
you are, your experiences or everything, the way you think
of the world.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know, I think I think it.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
It just helps. It helps the It helps the part
and when you take the challenge of accepting it.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yeah, it's two sides of that. Like you said, like
you did such a good job, but it'll be like,
oh my god, is that really who is? And then
you as a critic, because I was a critic even
when I was younger. I couldn't stand Laurence Fishburne. After
watching What's Love Got to Do with It?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I didn't seen him.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
And make sure you.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Know, sometimes people just do their job. They'd be like,
oh my god.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And as an audience member, you gotta we got to
give the audience grace. We like, we understand what it's
like to be in the audience and watching. You know,
some of our favorite class achieved it.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
You know, I believe it so much, but not like
the social media people. I mean just I didn't want
him to be beaten on Angela.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's just what it was.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
How much great actors get. Because there's been rumors that
they were actors who either left the shy or got
fired from the shot because they didn't want to play
a role they had the data transgender.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
That's fine, given a lot of man, there's a lot
of is their body is their choice, you know what
I mean, it's their mind that they got to allow
to take that ride. It's because it is a thing
that you have to have a hold of who you are.
You know, you're playing these roles and and and these
things can get on you.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
And no one really changes but the superstardom, you know
what I mean, like to to all these eyes on
you and your mental one being young and being famous.
We're breaking a lot of stars on this show. You know,
there's a lot of of our our cast members very
first big projects, a lot.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Of our first big projects. So we you know, we support,
we support that, we give them grace for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
There's been a lot of people who come and gone
on this shot, like which which characters are acted you
all wish were still on the show.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I mean, I'm I missing man. I missing all, but.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I miss everybody. I'm gonna I'm a fan. I'm a
I was a fan of the show. We got on
it because this is my bro, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Our second project together.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, second, you feel me.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I miss everybody because everybody really did their thing for me.
As a fan watching the show I was in, I
was just enamored by everybody's position in the show. And
so when I came to the show when people weren't there,
that was a shock for me.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But that you know, that's the.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Business, is what it is, and we moved We moved forward, and.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Uh fully support the brothers.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, always, Well, I missed Jason Mitchell's character that he killed.
He was killing that role.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
One hundred percent New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Hey, definitely all love to my b I tried to
stay in touch with him and give him a lot
of love always.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Man, we love you brother for real. And I'm Jason.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Jason is a fine brilliant actor, you know what I mean?
And only time will tell you feel me. That's we
all make mistakes and whatnot, and and that's why we
got to give each other each other grace and that's
why we talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And that's you know what I mean, have they been He.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Talked about bringing back just in case this is.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's that's that's above our power, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
We we we hear we employees of the shot, you know,
so it's uh, there's moving to the.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Producer real if I might be too late, but I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
That's above our pay grade.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
The lyric has has acting pasted your love for music?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, you came singing him?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
I know one way when he is in his acting
thank you? Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Them was crazy?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
What that's what bring up? But you know, I'm focused on.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Having a great year.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I know, music got me here, Music, new edition, all
of that that is from a that's my bridge. And
also it's my meditation, it's my it's it's it's it's
my prayer. I can't not do music, you know, every
other month, I always said, Johnny Gill hits me up
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just to make sure I'm still recording, still nurturing that gift,
because that helped me get here and helped me understand everything.
You know, I can'not not have it, and now I
just can'tnot have both because financially with this, with this
new medium has done for me, not just you know,
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personally as a human being and as an artist stretching
and whatnot. But financially, it's just put me in a
better space where I could have a family and I
can make music how I want to make music. I
can provide, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
And I'm grateful. I'm truly blessed, and I do. I
do not take it for granted. I'm really really I mean,
we're doing exactly what we love every day.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Putting our music when we want to. It is like,
it's incredible, especially when you got to you.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Step in music a few times and that what's up
with you and music?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You know?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I dropped a EP like five months ago called Closure
I'm real proud of, and then I have dropped the
Connection series album. So I haven't really dropped a big
body you work in a while. But I tell myself,
I'm like every year to drop something, you know what
I mean. I think that's important because there are music
fans that that wan't here for you.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
You know, it takes it takes time, and you got
your own fans and your own brand and it doesn't
have to look like everybody else, you know, and for me,
that goes into like the Prince realm and to all
the all those artists who.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Found their the people, and then their people stay with.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Them whenever they put music out, like Maxwell, like the Angelo,
like Frank Ocean, like anybody you have your they got
their people, and you know it's they're able to do
other things and then dibble dabble back into music when
they do, and it got that core fan base that
will always be there.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Why close it sound like you broke up with somebody
very harshly.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I did you know?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I did?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Man?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know, I think matter of fact, I think the
first time I came to the Breakfast Club, I was
getting out of it.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I'm a relationship person. I love, I love, I love.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So it's you don't need to hear that on the album.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Hey, I had to put it out there.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I had to do what else, that's that's his diary.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Actually, I actually put it out during the strike because
it was it was it was just time. I think,
you know that the show consumes our schedules like crazy,
So I was like, you know what, it's actually time
to just you know, put put Jacob out there versus
em you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And uh yeah, put that out there for one time and.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Then you feel about that.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I don't know. I don't know. I wish I love though,
you know, it's it's all love.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Are you the problem of the relationship.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I wouldn't say I'm the problem. I wouldn't I'm the problem.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I just you know, problems just time and timing is everything,
you know. And I'm happy where I met, you know,
still learning.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I'm still learning. I'm enjoying my singleness and.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Dayton, they say, are you at least? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You know, it's it's cool.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
It's it's different, you know, like actually playing dates and
going out. Hey, let's meet up for dinner, Let's talk,
you know, let's get to know one another.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
People want it's.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Tough, y'all and not Jacob.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
And you know that's I talk with God every day, like,
just give me that discernment, Give me that discernment to
just know.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Who am I?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Who is this?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
You know, I gotta get to it. And I gotta
really get in that girl business too, like what you
do for a living.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Not that I'm not a fifty to fifty guy, but
you know, I need to know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I got on.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I got to know that you got a lot going
on to and you got some aspirations and things and
goals and and things that will hold you accountable to
your actions and whatnot, and and that you see that
I'm I'm moving forward and you want to move forward
in your realm. And if we can keep that in harmony,
peace and love, we'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
They have to be in the industry.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, okay, okay, No, yeah, I don't know if I
want to do the industry.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think I think you just need a person.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
You need a person that just sees you, understands and
understands and it's open because we are in a fickle business.
It's up and down, you know, So understanding that part
understanding what we got to go through in our psychics.
A lot of rejection, there's a lot of nose. It's
a lot of just us pushing ourselves. We got our teams,
people that surround us, that love us, that keep us.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But you know, this don't happen if he don't make
it go, you know what I mean, If he don't audition,
if he don't put hisself out there.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And you you know, if you're with someone like that
in this business, you have to understand that there's ups
and downs that you know, depression could be. It's a
big thing, you know, just making yourself, putting yourself out
there in the world. You know, you got to sell yourself,
and so you need somebody that's gonna hold you down
no matter what.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
My mind must be clear.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, so, Jake, you said you never date a woman
from the industry.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Again, I wouldn't say that. I just you know, it
was just it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I think, I don't know, I don't know. I mean,
I still it's hard to say. It's hard to say it. Absolutely.
Oh yeah, it'll never man.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Looks in when you're talking about old he seeing somebody.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
There's a thing, right, No, I do nothing wrong with
I watched Kingdom Business last night.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I watched Kingdom Business last night.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I did.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I wonder if she's gonna watch this. Did you hit
her and tell her she.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Did a good job?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I did not need to do all that. But you
know she knows she's killing it.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Yeah, I wonder if she's all that she's watching it?
You noticed absolutely, Okay, okay, okay, it's all all.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I wonder if she knows.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
She's happy you ain't in four years. No, it's been
maybe three three. I put it so I put a
studio recorded album out and that was Grammy nominated.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That was to Feel Loved.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
And then I did I reimagined that album with an
orchestra by the name Orchestra and ensemble by the name
of New Deco, and we put.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That album out.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I've always wanted to do a live album, and that's
what we did. And so, yeah, it's been it's been
three years. It's been three years, man. But bro, I'm
I'm I'm I'm. I'm that type of drop I'll put
things out, but I'm also I've grown into that type
of artist.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I played the game.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Of, you know, trying to stay on the horse and
be out there and put your name out there.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And and music music, music, music, music and whatnot.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
But I'm grateful to still be here, sustained and constantly
growing and expanding. And it's humbling because you know, people
don't there's a lot of people that don't know I sing. Yeah, really, man,
it's humbling because.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
When and start dancing and singing and stuff, people.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Don't know new generation, not even new generation, bro.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
That you'd be surprised how big the world is and
how much other people got things going on, and it
humbles you and your you know what I mean, you'd
be like everybody know.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Me, you should know me, right, you gotta keep grinding.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
No, But there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
With that because it's like, oh, there's so much more
to be discovered, and that's that's that reinvigorates an artist
that's been doing it for a while.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Yeah, it came you hungry.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Absolutely always.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Let's dive into Edmund game, yo, sure, yeah, please listen.
Let me tell you so season two, well, it's them
the scare season two of them. I've been trying to
give them to watch the first season. I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I watch it.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
I'm now watching it, rewatching it because I wasn't supposed
to watch it without my way frant Black, Like I didn't.
I had to watch it again. I mean I got
watching it. I'm on episode eight right now again watching
my watch. What did it take for you to get
into that that role? It's so many layers to Edmund,
It's so it's crazy. Yeah, shout out to a little
(30:58):
more of it and lean away for that as well.
And some other writers that I do know, Malcolm maz
and Malcolm amazing, right, Yeah, what did you have to.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Pam Greer? Yeah, le Josh, Yeah, I mean we got
get something. We've got a lot of is all.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
You know that that role came came to me man,
and you know every artist is I mean, it's hoping
for such a role like that, such a challenge, something
that's beyond you and scares you in a sense. But
also it just seems like so much fun to stretch.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
When I read it, I saw the human and I
saw the heart.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Of him and and and what he was going through,
and that resonated with me just my life people I know,
and I'm a fan of the show.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Season one, I mean shook me.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Right, and it's just it's top tier television. Is one
of the best shows on all of television. I don't
care quote me on that, at me on that. All
that it is, you can't beat it. And so to
get an opportunity to be a part of it the
second installment of it, I jumped to that. You know,
I'm an artist who wants to continue to stretch. I
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want to move forward. I want to do one character
and do something beyond that character, beyond anything.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
So I just have to let that that you can
do anything.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'm grateful.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
And then and then it's so funny because you had
asked him about like playing a thug. Nobody would ask
him if you know, like if playing a thug was
really hard. And I don't want to give it away,
but that is like that, that's actually what the character
caters to, like he wants to be an actor and the.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Edmond is an aspiring, struggling actor in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
It's I mean.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
This is crazy takes This takes place in nineteen ninety one,
you know in Los Angeles is the height after the
trial of Rodney King beating dudes getting off, so much
going on, and we were following Detective Reeves, who is
a black woman, uh, detective the only black woman in
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her in her her unit Robbery Homicide played by Deborah
Urende was from first season, and she goes down this
road of trying to figure out this killer at this
at this Foster House, Foster Home did something crazy and
there trying to find who did it. And the more
(33:31):
and more she goes down that road, she realized the
biggest mystery is is herself. And I play a character
who is aspiring actor and just trying to get his
big break, but also has a void within him, searching
for his identity. And yeah, it's a ride because I
(33:57):
was like, yeah, crazy, Yeah, that's like.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
How did you staying did you find yourself staying in character? After?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Well?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, you know, once you're in it, you're in it.
For me, there's no turn completely turning it off because
that's just me. That's because he's a hundred you know
what I mean. It's not like you know, fifty or
you know, even seventy. He's one hundred type of characters.
So it's like you to stay in that, to be
honest and stay true to it all. I just had
(34:28):
to live in it. But I'm surrounded by love and whatnot,
and it was fun. Little Marvin created such a safe
space for me to dive into the unknown. And I
mean we just had a ball creating something brilliant and
I'm just grateful that it's resonating with people in all
the different ways.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
Definitely, how long did it take the shoot that season?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It was for when I came in, it was four months.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Okay, so four months of you doing that's happening into
that character.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, it makes sense too because I remember I remember
him pulling up to set on the shot and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Look, what's good. It is the craziest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It it was I didn't even know what he was.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Doing outside of Broadway.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It was the most intense, the hardest thing I've ever challenged,
I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I'm grateful I did it, man.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
I mean, it's just, you know, when you do something
that just really challenges you, your entire fiber and you
get to pour into it and you do all of
this work and at the end of the day, my
experience was everything and you don't know, you know, the
rest of it, you don't have no control of. So
to receive this love, man, I'm I'm just grateful.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, because before them, I knew you as a singer.
I knew he was Victor, and that was it. And
then I was like, how the.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Hell, what the hell we could tap into this ship,
So congratulation, y'all gotta watch it, bro.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I do. I'm gonna be honest with you. It was
just the pronou and that scave me.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I hear you.
Speaker 10 (35:59):
I just made that up off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And then it's just you.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Know, and that Kendrick, it just went it went over
my head and they had come back, and then oh,
that's what you're.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Saying, got who you got? Wanted to be? Who wanted
to be?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Like I think Kendrick there you got like, But I
don't think Drake is.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Drake is one of the greatst of our generation, greatest
write songwriters period. Like I mean, as if I look
at it from just an artist a musicians standpoint, dude
is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You cannot deny none of that.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
If we're just talking about this moment right now, Kendrick
did that, and you know, I mean, it's just how
do you go after a guy like Kendrick. You see
that performance on Power. We haven't seen him do anything
like that. You can't play with nobody like You're absolutely right,
who could you can.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Do all of that?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I mean, yes, he come from he come from battle rap.
That's that's just that's that's who he is is, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Kung Kenny. Look, Kenny, I always knew that I felt
like Kendrick could come out on top of this, even
though I wasn't sleeping on Draking nowhere, shape or form.
But we just didn't know how because we've never seen Kendrick.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah, how do you play with somebody who you don't
you don't know that much about You don't see him,
They don't they don't really play, and you don't really know.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
He pop out when he want and drove great bodies
of work and then he goes back and.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
It's interest artist, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
But I'm waiting for the documentary of this, of this
situation because there has to be, because there's there's such
a someone to know.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Why Kendrick don't like him so much.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
No, not even.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Not even that, not even that you know this this
I don't. I don't even get into that part. I
just look at the social construct.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Of it all.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
And and and the they're having two different conversations, right
're two different talking about something at each other, but
having two different conversations. And we're realizing two different audiences
lit in to music and comment on music and the
same and their spectrum is so one narrowed, you.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Know what's so inddressing about that? Kendrick and Drake like
like Kendrick gets the same type of critical acclaim, he
sells records, he sells out tours and everything he's just
approached to music is different but that don't mean that
Drake's approach to music is wrong, right, Like it's not
saying you know, like Drake makes good music, yes, great records.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
The thing is people have a hard time because with
comparison and competition in comparison, somehow has to be competition too,
you know, like I can't have one without the other.
I can't have one and the other. But you can
have Michael and Prince and you can appreciate both what
they've done.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's just interesting how they how Kendrick has like a
I don't want to say a reputation, but he's almost
looked at as an underground artist. But that's like he's not.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
He's like successfully commercial, but he started that way the
Section eighty that had that, that had.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That, But he kind of is under around artists and
it's just his records just crossover. Drake makes records to crossover.
Kendrick just does himself and his records just cross over.
But you know, we love it so much.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Princes could considered, in a sense at that time an
underground artist, raw different than any black artists that was out,
you know what I mean, and that shook the world.
I mean, it's gonna be controversial what I say, but
it shook the world so much that Michael changed his vibe.
Four years later, came out with Bad and he had
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long hair, buckles and leather and all that. That that
Purple Rain impact, that Oscar's influential.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
That was crazy.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
I can only imagine he had the cool. But I
just hate the fact that people can't love both artists.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You can know a lot of people, which is crazy.
I don't, but Kendrick and I love Drake in the back.
I look different than y'all right, and this is just me.
And Charlamagne was like, we'll prove it if I feed
you in for me allegedly, because we don't know if
it's true. This we just would drinks. Yet, if I
feed your information and you go off that information, that
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kind of it doesn't it's not true.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I can't really say if that's true. If it is,
it's like, that's genius to me. It's not nonsense. It's nonsense.
We know it's nonsense. Stop it, pull it back.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
You documented, It's all documented on Twitter and all the
news and all of this. That and the third you've
been doing this for how many years now? It doesn't
matter it's a rap battle. It doesn't have to be
true kind of does No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
If I give you information and you know all that
information I.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Got back in the day, maybe right, but right now
it doesn't. Now now it's a different thing. It's it's
how can I get you off your rocker?
Speaker 11 (40:54):
How can I get you off everything about you in
the world and people like and you and you can
as much as you But if that's ye is it?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's a game.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
They both in trust.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
J Cole won.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
He got out of there.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Listen, J co sleep is good.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
That was like just to be like, you know, bro,
that didn't go up go and mess with my spirit.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And I'm so grateful that that came to me.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
I had that that that premonition or whatever to say,
you know what, I'm backing out. You can do whatever
you want, bro, but I can just see this ain't
gonna be good for.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Me maybe, And I don't want to go down that road.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
And I rather sleep good than YE sleep and then
wake up wanting to go back to sleep because I
don't know if it's another track about me.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
I don't want to anyone out there imagine that type
of sleep man, you ain't sleeping or a lie.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Kendrick, nowaday nobody cares about the truth from the line,
you might just get me with a lie. Now everybody
think I'm missing that.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
My wife laying wrong with She asked me, you hit me.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Watch the shot.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Just watch the shot. That's right, the shot.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
This is amazing, right back. We learned a lot, we
learned to spin off of the shot. Coming there it is.
Jacob still loves Surrea for s you said, just it.
It's fine. Season six of the Side is great, and
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it may not be the final season. There you go.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
The B side is them.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
You have to watch them. I will watch it with
your together, already watch it.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Tap in, tap in, tap in? Why not?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
She's really been talking about the show for long.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
You should you should?
Speaker 6 (42:46):
I think you should tap in because when we talk
about as a community, when we talk about we want
nuanced UH films and and so on, this is nuanced.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
This is different.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
And I'm not saying it because I'm a part of it.
I'm saying it because that's what it is, and we
have to support it. We have to see it, and
and other artists will come about from this from this happening.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
You know and why not enjoy it definitely.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Well, we appreciate you guys joining Breakfast Club, y'all flowers. Man,
this is this is this is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Man.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
We you know, we always excited to pull up on you.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
It's a answer call at first, but thank you so
much for having.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
What about what ab our producers just said Season seven
has been Greenland. I don't know how true that is.
I try to google it, but.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Don't stop playing.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
This team just texted me, shy. Season seven has been greenland.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
We find out. We find out when y'all find out.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Problem.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Congratulations relations Coratu wow dangla.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
We'll see the six returns. Make tempt see the seven
has been greenlit.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Congratulation.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
The Breakfast Club.
Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club Morning,
everybody in Steve j Envy, Jess hilarious. I mean the
guy we are the Breakfast Club. We got some special
guests in the building. Yeah, you know, from the shot
to shot returns made tenth we have Jacob Batimore and
Luke Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, absolutely welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Y'all been doing the show so long, you went from
linear television to streaming.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And now we're super grateful.
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Man, like, man, this is beyond what we expected. You know,
it's just every season we're like, man, it's just the
last one.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
It's our last round. But you know, it's been going,
it's been going. We're really excited, especially for a black show.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
Yeah, around for six seasons out here for sure, all
of television, we're still here. Yeah, I mean that's you know,
that's a testament to our writers, to our creator, a
wave and common to our cast.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And to our fans. You know what I mean. It's
just in us continue continuing to expand, you know.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, and we're still growing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
That's like usually see and sixty on, like the decline
is slowing down, but season six is our biggest season.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you know, what I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
And shout out to Paramount plus. We excited to be
on a new platform.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Man, absolutely, they kne who was here earlier this week,
Mortisen saying that he's in the shot.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
How I was working with Man, We just we just love.
I don't have any scene. I'm mad. I don't want
to say too.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Much, but you know, it is it is amazing to
just kind of be in the same presence with them
and just for them to be excited to be on
our show because we've been watching them.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
This is these people grew up watching.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
These are people who you know, laid the foundation for
us to even be right here talking about any of this.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's it is.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
It is a moment of reflecting, a moment to reflect,
you know, just to be grateful and thank God just
to persevering.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And and having a dream and then looking at making
it full circle.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Man, to be working with people that you've been watching forever,
it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, No, it's been awesome.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
Spoke of y'all the same way about working with him,
like he was so excited to work.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
With Yeah, we just we're just grateful. Like another one
of our guest stars that we haven't even announced it.
He texted me, he was like, Bro, this is the
set y'all have.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's just it's.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Blessed man like the energy from hair and makeup to wardrobe.
So we just we're just grateful because it's not always
like that, you know what I mean, Like it's every
every set is different. You got you got people coming
from all walks of life and coming together to work
with each other for four or five months out the year.
And you know what I mean, It's it's not always easy,
but we were blessed.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
With the guest that text you.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Why can't you say, yeah, he's special.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
It's a great reveal. Yeah, during the during the during
the season. But I mean, you know, we got the great,
the beautiful, brilliant, great Lynn Winfield. You know we got
Leon gray Man, we Goton.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'll take that, and I take that like I'm talking
about any other phenomenal. There's something y'all got, like the
same aesthetic in a way.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I receive that watching the means definitely deptations. I was
definitely do that. Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody come to see you.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I'm like, yeah, nobody come to see man.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
And he's brilliant man to be working with him. I mean,
I've had a lot of scenes with him, man, and
it's just awesome. Bro, just to be able to sit
across somebody.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
He's a cool dude, super I mean, like it's really real.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
He come on to the he come into the makeup trailers,
he just got smooth.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'm like, oh, it's really leon like as hell.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm gonna lean into that as I can a little,
you know, get a little old.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
How change your lives though?
Speaker 7 (03:35):
What h.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
I got, I could I could pay for a house,
life insurance.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
It's a it's a show that's grounded in reality. It's
not exactly it's not completely escapism, and so we get
an opportunity to not only stretch as artists, but as
human beings.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
It's definitely deepen my wealth of empathy for just all
walks of life, to just be able to hold space
for everybody. And it's just opened my eyes to the
world in the sense of how I thought. You know,
I'm from New Orleans and I feel away about my
city in such a way and that we're so different
from anywhere else. And to be able to be smack
(04:23):
dab in the middle of a show that is in
a sense of a love letter to Chicago, to the
South Side, to the people of the Shy, and also
in a sense of protest to humanize black folks in
the black experience.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's awesome.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I've been able to dive into a different culture, which
is you know, kindred to mine, you know, And that's
I think the connective tissues and which is awesome about
such a show. That's what it does for us. When
when I'm in New Orleans and I'm watching The Shy,
I'm like, oh, like that's like here, it's not that
much different.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Everybody is just looking for a space to be seen
and felt and protected.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, I mean just going through the airports, being on
the airplane and just i mean going to a restaurant.
Just also seeing different different demographics, even enjoying the show.
Like I was at a sushi spot. I ain't you know,
I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
No, ain't. No. Black people were good.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And then just the way there was aging. He was like, man,
you this guy from the shot. I'm like, oh wow.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
So yeah, yeah, like he was like oh man.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
But it was like I'm like, I'm I'm shocked at
the like the show is growing and then like my
name is like I really like they say it, I'm like, yo,
I like really, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Your character resonates.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I mean if you watched from season one all the
way to season six, I mean it, like just the
growth in the character and whatnot. I'm just grateful to
be a part of that, part of this lineage, part
of this show. I mean, it's been awesome.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
How much input does Lena let you have, like with
you know, a script, contributing to script or like the
actual story, do you have any love?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, I mean we definitely, Like if I'll ask a question,
you know, I like to respect the writer's room, you
know what I mean, I definitely because we're here for
a reason and what we got is working, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
So we let the writers do what they do. We'll
have questions and say, hey, why did do this or and.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
It'll give me a better understanding of how to approach
that scene that day and then they'll give me a
better breakdown.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But they're open to it.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But I like to respect the lanes because I'm coming
here to bring what they write to life, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
So that's the challenge, that's the work, and that's why
you get paid to be able to interpret. But also,
you know, we live with these characters and we have
you know, we can hear their voices when we read
something we could you know, it's pretty open in the
sense of like, oh, maybe not that particular word or
that particular phrasing in that kind of way, or that
(07:02):
particular action. But for the most part, yeah, it's we
let the writers do what they do and we do
what we do. And also they see the full spectrum
for us, you know, because that's why every season is different,
and they help us grow because sometimes you could just
be stuck in this character in this space for where
you just were and when you read it, and then
(07:25):
when you're able to talk to Leana and everybody, they
help you understand, Oh, okay, it's a new chapter. It's
three years now, it's you know, months down the line,
so he's different, you know. So you just got to
let everybody do their job and we don't.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Actually, I never feel like I'm coming back to the
same character every year, you know, because that could be
you could feel repetitive, like every season it has been
different for me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Is there anything that you didn't want to do, like
a kadem Hartis who was saying. He was like, he
hated those glasses.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
He was hated them and maybe look goofye the first
glasses were.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
One of the biggest things that's but he was like,
and I think he only said they kept the glasses
for one season or two seasons, but it had so
much impact on it. And then it was like when
it was time for him to grow, they were like,
we want him to grow and he was cool with that.
So is anything that they were we want you to
do and he was like ah. And then they find
up like, oh, you probably.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Haven't had something like that since season one when they
was like, had my hair blonde, tipping my hair is blinde.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
I was like, we gotta go blind, and we want
aim to go blind if it feels young and youthful.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
But other than that, you know, we definitely get some
say song like hey, I don't really like what I'm
wearing for this, you know why am I wearing this?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I'm in the house.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
There's a collaborative effort, but also also you know, they
also have an initiative for for all of us, and
you know, you know, we got a lot of youth
on the show as.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, and I hope they're from Chicago.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
That's the majority of our cast is from out to
chamont or Mikey and Panado natives, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
But there's also initiative. There's an initiative if.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
You want to direct, if you want to write, you know,
there's they They've given us programs that we can align
ourselves with when we're all for when we have time,
that we can shadow other directors, writers, producers, and so
that's that's the that's the operation.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
It's a different it's a different ball game when you
say I want to produce something, you know, because I'm
even learning, uh like, because we we show up to
set the Red Carbs rode out for as our trailers
have said, the lines are there, the wardrobe is there,
but it's so much that goes on. It's it's prep
going on way before we get there, and that's the
work that that's that's the tough part. That's a different
You can't just walk into that and be like, oh,
(09:29):
I got it something you got to learn.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
How much is Leana still involved? Completely?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Yea completely, ain't nothing going down with in a sense
of like the creative aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Lena has her hands on it. On it all.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
You know, it's she just keeps us in line, in
line with everything going.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
On and keep us motivated to like six seasons is
like you know, we can people get comfortable, you know,
like yo yo yo, table reads. That's not sound lazy,
that's that's that sound up.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
We were up, We up.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I need to pick up. We had We had to
chop some things because someone someone you know, you know
what I mean. Keep it real, that's what you that's
what you want.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
And that's why the show lasts because it's no, nobody's
just like sugar coating anything. We're really they're really asking
for excellence out of all of us. You know, if
you're gonna be on here, you're gonna give everything you got.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Absolutely, no just.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
The final season because that's also been a room with that.
This is different.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
We don't know y'all.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Y'all no, well no, we literally just finished like maybe
two months ago.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
But if we don't know that every year.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Like that was the last season last year, we really.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Be like yo, man, because I'm always prepped.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
I'm always ready to pivot that next job, you know, acting, man,
we're just blessed, blessed to be working like this is
we were We understand that a lot of actors are
not working in the game right now, and it's it's
it's heavy. So we just, you know, if we get
another season, we grateful. If we don't, you know, we
just we're grateful.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We're grateful. The experience has been.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
To get past four or five is nuts.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You get past a pilot, bro.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Yeah, okay, let's just hypothetically if this was the last season,
are you happy with how it turned out, with how
it ended?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
My thing is I've always wanted for me as a fan,
I've always wanted to see the kids at least move out,
like just go on.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I thought they should.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
And you know what I'm saying, because that's how much
they mean to the show.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And you never know.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
And it's good that you say that out loud, you know,
because people listening. But you know, for me, I just
want to at least at least if we go in,
let's get the kids out the house into a space
where it's like where as an audience, if we think
about the show, we can just our imagination can go
into a peaceful place where the kids survived after all
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of it, all the things for six seasons they survived,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
And with that being said, what was the hardest scene
that you had to shoot, like emotionally for both of you.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I want to say, I want to say, this is
definitely my toughest season.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, this is.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
It's just it's it's a lot of emotion.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's it's Yeah, the fans are gonna be on the
edge of the seat with this when nobody's safe.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Nobody's say if it's a struggle for powers, to struggle
for safety, to protect your family. I mean, there's a
lot on the line, and we all all.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Are tethered together, and.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
And in the sense we all have a commin enemy,
and we all got our ups and downs like every season,
but this one is really like asking a lot of
all of us, all our all of our characters.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's pretty it's pretty heavy. No.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Yeah, I even felt some days I had to kind
of come in method because I'm usually high energy every day.
So it was some days I'm like, man, I gotta
really just put them headphones on and lock in today
because it's this scene is gonna require a lot. Yes,
I'm happy though, I'm happy to do it on this
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show because most of the time has been very high
energy and jokes and laughs.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But it's getting real. It's getting real for.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's a new chapter for for all of us.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Now, Luke, your character has a type on the show, Yeah,
transgender women that he likes dating. Was that a conversation?
What was that conversation like when they presented that to you?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
That was that was the role when when the when
the request for a self tape came, that was the
breakdown of the character.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
So it's given to the artist. You know that this
is who this is who he is.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know. For everybody you know, you choose to do
it or choose not to do it.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
For me, I look at myself as an artist in totality,
and it's a matter of asking yourself, what type of
artists are you? You know, because you know it's it's
a matter of telling the truth. For me, if I
can breathe life into a character and be honest about
everything that that I'm reading and needing to say, go
for it. If it moves me in an emotional way,
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I'm all about it. And that's why I love about
the show because it's just grounded in the reality of.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What our lives are, what they really look like.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
And it's not trying to be this fantasy of what
someone thinks it should look like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And now I was geeked about it.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
For me, it overall in totality, I think that the
role for me, I've never I had never played a
thug figure in that sense, and nobody understands how hard
that is if that's not really who you are.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That's a great point you bought, because nobody will say, Luke,
you had to play a thug? Was that tough for you?
But it's going to come to the transgender It's.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Like, look, it's hard to be in love. Is it
hard for you to be kind? Be a loving person
who is just searching for safe space? And it's not
a thing, it's not even on the table. This character
that for him, it wasn't a thing on the table
for him. He it has just been living his life.
If you if you think about all the characters, we
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all have these these ups and downs. Which is so
cool about this season. While we talk so much about
mental health within the season, we're not so we're not
preachy in our show, but but we're just going through
the motions as everyone does in real life, because we
all all value a safe space to be seen and
heard and felt and protected. And I'm really I really
(15:26):
like the nuances of such a character.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
How do you protect your pieces of man? I totally
understand everything you're saying is an actor, but we still
live in a dickhead era. Yeah, we got all these
digital dickheads will get online. Oh yeah, that's what you went.
How do you protect your pieces of man?
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Bro, I really don't. I really don't subscribe to it.
I don't subscribe to that is.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm beyond that.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Like there have probably been, there was, there was a
moment in my life where that this I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I wouldn't have done this role.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
There's a moment in my life where I'm like, I'm not,
But never from an aspect of homophobia or anything like that.
From an aspect of my artistry. I don't know if
I don't know if my will is that deep enough
to to be as honest and truthful and as great
as I need to be in order to tell this
story and be well rounded.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But you know, over.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Time, experiences, you know, more experiences of doing things, and
then the questions of asking what type of vessel, what
type of artists I want to be.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, you get the opportunity. And then also you.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Have a creator that will text you as soon as
you send a tape in and tell you I'm holding
I'm going to hold a safe space for you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know I got you, Yes, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
This.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
This is gonna be awesome.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I got my hands on all of this, and this
is this is going to be a beautiful thing. And
I'm grateful for you to take a chance on this
and for me it's done again. It's deep in my
well of empathy. I just see the world differently, bro,
And I have no judgment. As an actor, you can't
really have to be able to tell the truth and
tell that character's story.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You can't really judge it.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
You just have to look at what they're what they're
going through, and say, damn, that's that's where he is.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But you know, the thing is, like what he said
is you look at actors before your time, they didn't
have to deal with the social media no, right, But
now every day, like even if somebody didn't like your character,
or let's say you did a bad job, it was
one day and gone. But now you got social media.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Every everybody's a critical day.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Everybody's a critic. Everybody feels like they could do a
better job, but he did it, or they can tell
you what to do. So that's where the mental comes in.
So to make sure that that doesn't affect you is
the thing. Because you want to do the character. You
don't want to be thinking about, well, what are they
going to say? You just want to do it a great.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Character both of you and we just understood acting back then.
I remember having a conversation with making good ones and
making good with saying how she has to be conscious
of the role she plays, because nowadays people think that's
actually you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, very true, Like, huh, it's very true.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Now I'm completely different from like I have no kids,
don't deal with no baby mama drama, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What I mean a lot of productions.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I mean, but it's like, you know, it's it's definitely
that though, And I've been learning that on this show,
Like man, people really approach us in that way as
if they know us because we live in their their
their homes with this show and it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I mean, you do it so well that part of
that gotta be true. But people don't understand about acting
the beautiful therapeutic point of it, and the fun of
it is the transformation, like taking seeing a role and not.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Seeing yourself in it and seeing someone else.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
In it and and seeing the challenge of understanding who
this human being is that is probably far from who
you are, your experiences or everything, the way you think
of the world.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You know, I think I think it.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
It just helps. It helps the It helps the part
and when you take the challenge of accepting it.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
Yeah, it's two sides of that. Like you said, like
you did such a good job, but it'll be like,
oh my god, is that really who is? And then
you as a critic, because I was a critic even
when I was younger. I couldn't stand Laurence Fishburne. After
watching What's Love Got to Do with It?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I didn't seen him.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
And make sure you.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Know, sometimes people just do their job. They'd be like,
oh my god.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
And as an audience member, you gotta we got to
give the audience grace. We like, we understand what it's
like to be in the audience and watching. You know,
some of our favorite class achieved it.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
You know, I believe it so much, but not like
the social media people. I mean just I didn't want
him to be beaten on Angela.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
That's just what it was.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
How much great actors get. Because there's been rumors that
they were actors who either left the shy or got
fired from the shot because they didn't want to play
a role they had the data transgender.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
That's fine, given a lot of man, there's a lot
of is their body is their choice, you know what
I mean, it's their mind that they got to allow
to take that ride. It's because it is a thing
that you have to have a hold of who you are.
You know, you're playing these roles and and and these
things can get on you.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
And no one really changes but the superstardom, you know
what I mean, like to to all these eyes on
you and your mental one being young and being famous.
We're breaking a lot of stars on this show. You know,
there's a lot of of our our cast members very
first big projects, a lot.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Of our first big projects. So we you know, we support,
we support that, we give them grace for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
There's been a lot of people who come and gone
on this shot, like which which characters are acted you
all wish were still on the show.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I mean, I'm I missing man. I missing all, but.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I miss everybody. I'm gonna I'm a fan. I'm a
I was a fan of the show. We got on
it because this is my bro, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Our second project together.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, second, you feel me.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I miss everybody because everybody really did their thing for me.
As a fan watching the show I was in, I
was just enamored by everybody's position in the show. And
so when I came to the show when people weren't there,
that was a shock for me.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But that you know, that's the.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Business, is what it is, and we moved We moved forward, and.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Uh fully support the brothers.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, always, Well, I missed Jason Mitchell's character that he killed.
He was killing that role.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
One hundred percent New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Hey, definitely all love to my b I tried to
stay in touch with him and give him a lot
of love always.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Man, we love you brother for real. And I'm Jason.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Jason is a fine brilliant actor, you know what I mean?
And only time will tell you feel me. That's we
all make mistakes and whatnot, and and that's why we
got to give each other each other grace and that's
why we talk about it.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And that's you know what I mean, have they been He.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Talked about bringing back just in case this is.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
That's that's that's above our power, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
We we we hear we employees of the shot, you know,
so it's uh, there's moving to the.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Producer real if I might be too late, but I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
That's above our pay grade.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
The lyric has has acting pasted your love for music?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, you came singing him?
Speaker 7 (22:25):
I know one way when he is in his acting
thank you? Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Them was crazy?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
What that's what bring up? But you know, I'm focused on.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Having a great year.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I know, music got me here, Music, new edition, all
of that that is from a that's my bridge. And
also it's my meditation, it's my it's it's it's it's
my prayer. I can't not do music, you know, every
other month, I always said, Johnny Gill hits me up
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just to make sure I'm still recording, still nurturing that gift,
because that helped me get here and helped me understand everything.
You know, I can'not not have it, and now I
just can'tnot have both because financially with this, with this
new medium has done for me, not just you know,
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personally as a human being and as an artist stretching
and whatnot. But financially, it's just put me in a
better space where I could have a family and I
can make music how I want to make music. I
can provide, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
And I'm grateful. I'm truly blessed, and I do. I
do not take it for granted. I'm really really I mean,
we're doing exactly what we love every day.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Putting our music when we want to. It is like,
it's incredible, especially when you got to you.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Step in music a few times and that what's up
with you and music?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
You know?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
I dropped a EP like five months ago called Closure
I'm real proud of, and then I have dropped the
Connection series album. So I haven't really dropped a big
body you work in a while. But I tell myself,
I'm like every year to drop something, you know what
I mean. I think that's important because there are music
fans that that wan't here for you.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
You know, it takes it takes time, and you got
your own fans and your own brand and it doesn't
have to look like everybody else, you know, and for me,
that goes into like the Prince realm and to all
the all those artists who.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Found their the people, and then their people stay with.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
Them whenever they put music out, like Maxwell, like the Angelo,
like Frank Ocean, like anybody you have your they got
their people, and you know it's they're able to do
other things and then dibble dabble back into music when
they do, and it got that core fan base that
will always be there.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Why close it sound like you broke up with somebody
very harshly.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I did you know?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I did?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Man?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know, I think matter of fact, I think the
first time I came to the Breakfast Club, I was
getting out of it.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I'm a relationship person. I love, I love, I love.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So it's you don't need to hear that on the album.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Hey, I had to put it out there.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
I had to do what else, that's that's his diary.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Actually, I actually put it out during the strike because
it was it was it was just time. I think,
you know that the show consumes our schedules like crazy,
So I was like, you know what, it's actually time
to just you know, put put Jacob out there versus
em you.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
And uh yeah, put that out there for one time and.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Then you feel about that.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I don't know. I don't know. I wish I love though,
you know, it's it's all love.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Are you the problem of the relationship.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I wouldn't say I'm the problem. I wouldn't I'm the problem.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I just you know, problems just time and timing is everything,
you know. And I'm happy where I met, you know,
still learning.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I'm still learning. I'm enjoying my singleness and.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
Dayton, they say, are you at least? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
You know, it's it's cool.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
It's it's different, you know, like actually playing dates and
going out. Hey, let's meet up for dinner, Let's talk,
you know, let's get to know one another.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
People want it's.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Tough, y'all and not Jacob.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
And you know that's I talk with God every day, like,
just give me that discernment, Give me that discernment to
just know.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Who am I?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Who is this?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Who is this?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:08):
You know, I gotta get to it. And I gotta
really get in that girl business too, like what you
do for a living.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Not that I'm not a fifty to fifty guy, but
you know, I need to know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
I got on.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I got to know that you got a lot going
on to and you got some aspirations and things and
goals and and things that will hold you accountable to
your actions and whatnot, and and that you see that
I'm I'm moving forward and you want to move forward
in your realm. And if we can keep that in harmony,
peace and love, we'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
They have to be in the industry.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
No, okay, okay, No, yeah, I don't know if I
want to do the industry.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I think I think you just need a person.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
You need a person that just sees you, understands and
understands and it's open because we are in a fickle business.
It's up and down, you know, So understanding that part
understanding what we got to go through in our psychics.
A lot of rejection, there's a lot of nose. It's
a lot of just us pushing ourselves. We got our teams,
people that surround us, that love us, that keep us.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But you know, this don't happen if he don't make
it go, you know what I mean, If he don't audition,
if he don't put hisself out there.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And you you know, if you're with someone like that
in this business, you have to understand that there's ups
and downs that you know, depression could be. It's a
big thing, you know, just making yourself, putting yourself out
there in the world. You know, you got to sell yourself,
and so you need somebody that's gonna hold you down
no matter what.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
My mind must be clear.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, so, Jake, you said you never date a woman
from the industry.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Again, I wouldn't say that. I just you know, it
was just it's tough. It's tough.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I think, I don't know, I don't know. I mean,
I still it's hard to say. It's hard to say it. Absolutely.
Oh yeah, it'll never man.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Looks in when you're talking about old he seeing somebody.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
There's a thing, right, No, I do nothing wrong with
I watched Kingdom Business last night.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I watched Kingdom Business last night.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I did.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I wonder if she's gonna watch this. Did you hit
her and tell her she.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Did a good job?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I did not need to do all that. But you
know she knows she's killing it.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
Yeah, I wonder if she's all that she's watching it?
You noticed absolutely, Okay, okay, okay, it's all all.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I wonder if she knows.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
She's happy you ain't in four years. No, it's been
maybe three three. I put it so I put a
studio recorded album out and that was Grammy nominated.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That was to Feel Loved.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
And then I did I reimagined that album with an
orchestra by the name Orchestra and ensemble by the name
of New Deco, and we put.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That album out.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I've always wanted to do a live album, and that's
what we did. And so, yeah, it's been it's been
three years. It's been three years, man. But bro, I'm
I'm I'm I'm. I'm that type of drop I'll put
things out, but I'm also I've grown into that type
of artist.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I played the game.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
Of, you know, trying to stay on the horse and
be out there and put your name out there.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And and music music, music, music, music and whatnot.
Speaker 6 (29:34):
But I'm grateful to still be here, sustained and constantly
growing and expanding. And it's humbling because you know, people
don't there's a lot of people that don't know I sing. Yeah, really, man,
it's humbling because.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
When and start dancing and singing and stuff, people.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Don't know new generation, not even new generation, bro.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
That you'd be surprised how big the world is and
how much other people got things going on, and it
humbles you and your you know what I mean, you'd
be like everybody know.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Me, you should know me, right, you gotta keep grinding.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
No, But there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
With that because it's like, oh, there's so much more
to be discovered, and that's that's that reinvigorates an artist
that's been doing it for a while.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
Yeah, it came you hungry.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Absolutely always.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
Let's dive into Edmund game, yo, sure, yeah, please listen.
Let me tell you so season two, well, it's them
the scare season two of them. I've been trying to
give them to watch the first season. I love it.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I watch it.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
I'm now watching it, rewatching it because I wasn't supposed
to watch it without my way frant Black, Like I didn't.
I had to watch it again. I mean I got
watching it. I'm on episode eight right now again watching
my watch. What did it take for you to get
into that that role? It's so many layers to Edmund,
It's so it's crazy. Yeah, shout out to a little
(30:58):
more of it and lean away for that as well.
And some other writers that I do know, Malcolm maz
and Malcolm amazing, right, Yeah, what did you have to.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Pam Greer? Yeah, le Josh, Yeah, I mean we got
get something. We've got a lot of is all.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
You know that that role came came to me man,
and you know every artist is I mean, it's hoping
for such a role like that, such a challenge, something
that's beyond you and scares you in a sense. But
also it just seems like so much fun to stretch.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
When I read it, I saw the human and I
saw the heart.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
Of him and and and what he was going through,
and that resonated with me just my life people I know,
and I'm a fan of the show.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Season one, I mean shook me.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Right, and it's just it's top tier television. Is one
of the best shows on all of television. I don't
care quote me on that, at me on that. All
that it is, you can't beat it. And so to
get an opportunity to be a part of it the
second installment of it, I jumped to that. You know,
I'm an artist who wants to continue to stretch. I
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want to move forward. I want to do one character
and do something beyond that character, beyond anything.
Speaker 7 (32:21):
So I just have to let that that you can
do anything.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I'm grateful.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
And then and then it's so funny because you had
asked him about like playing a thug. Nobody would ask
him if you know, like if playing a thug was
really hard. And I don't want to give it away,
but that is like that, that's actually what the character
caters to, like he wants to be an actor and the.
Speaker 6 (32:43):
Edmond is an aspiring, struggling actor in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
It's I mean.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
This is crazy takes This takes place in nineteen ninety one,
you know in Los Angeles is the height after the
trial of Rodney King beating dudes getting off, so much
going on, and we were following Detective Reeves, who is
a black woman, uh, detective the only black woman in
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her in her her unit Robbery Homicide played by Deborah
Urende was from first season, and she goes down this
road of trying to figure out this killer at this
at this Foster House, Foster Home did something crazy and
there trying to find who did it. And the more
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and more she goes down that road, she realized the
biggest mystery is is herself. And I play a character
who is aspiring actor and just trying to get his
big break, but also has a void within him, searching
for his identity. And yeah, it's a ride because I
(33:57):
was like, yeah, crazy, Yeah, that's like.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
How did you staying did you find yourself staying in character? After?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Well?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I mean, you know, once you're in it, you're in it.
For me, there's no turn completely turning it off because
that's just me. That's because he's a hundred you know
what I mean. It's not like you know, fifty or
you know, even seventy. He's one hundred type of characters.
So it's like you to stay in that, to be
honest and stay true to it all. I just had
(34:28):
to live in it. But I'm surrounded by love and whatnot,
and it was fun. Little Marvin created such a safe
space for me to dive into the unknown. And I
mean we just had a ball creating something brilliant and
I'm just grateful that it's resonating with people in all
the different ways.
Speaker 7 (34:45):
Definitely, how long did it take the shoot that season?
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It was for when I came in, it was four months.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Okay, so four months of you doing that's happening into
that character.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Yeah, it makes sense too because I remember I remember
him pulling up to set on the shot and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Look, what's good. It is the craziest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
It it was I didn't even know what he was.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Doing outside of Broadway.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It was the most intense, the hardest thing I've ever challenged,
I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
But I'm grateful I did it, man.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
I mean, it's just, you know, when you do something
that just really challenges you, your entire fiber and you
get to pour into it and you do all of
this work and at the end of the day, my
experience was everything and you don't know, you know, the
rest of it, you don't have no control of. So
to receive this love, man, I'm I'm just grateful.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
Yeah, yeah, because before them, I knew you as a singer.
I knew he was Victor, and that was it. And
then I was like, how the.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Hell, what the hell we could tap into this ship,
So congratulation, y'all gotta watch it, bro.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I do. I'm gonna be honest with you. It was
just the pronou and that scave me.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I hear you.
Speaker 10 (35:59):
I just made that up off the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
And then it's just you.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
Know, and that Kendrick, it just went it went over
my head and they had come back, and then oh,
that's what you're.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Saying, got who you got? Wanted to be? Who wanted
to be?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Like I think Kendrick there you got like, But I
don't think Drake is.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Drake is one of the greatst of our generation, greatest
write songwriters period. Like I mean, as if I look
at it from just an artist a musicians standpoint, dude
is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You cannot deny none of that.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
If we're just talking about this moment right now, Kendrick
did that, and you know, I mean, it's just how
do you go after a guy like Kendrick. You see
that performance on Power. We haven't seen him do anything
like that. You can't play with nobody like You're absolutely right,
who could you can.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Do all of that?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
I mean, yes, he come from he come from battle rap.
That's that's just that's that's who he is is, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Kung Kenny. Look, Kenny, I always knew that I felt
like Kendrick could come out on top of this, even
though I wasn't sleeping on Draking nowhere, shape or form.
But we just didn't know how because we've never seen Kendrick.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Yeah, how do you play with somebody who you don't
you don't know that much about You don't see him,
They don't they don't really play, and you don't really know.
Speaker 7 (37:21):
He pop out when he want and drove great bodies
of work and then he goes back and.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
It's interest artist, you know.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
But I'm waiting for the documentary of this, of this
situation because there has to be, because there's there's such
a someone to know.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Why Kendrick don't like him so much.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
No, not even.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Not even that, not even that you know this this
I don't. I don't even get into that part. I
just look at the social construct.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Of it all.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
And and and the they're having two different conversations, right
're two different talking about something at each other, but
having two different conversations. And we're realizing two different audiences
lit in to music and comment on music and the
same and their spectrum is so one narrowed, you.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Know what's so inddressing about that? Kendrick and Drake like
like Kendrick gets the same type of critical acclaim, he
sells records, he sells out tours and everything he's just
approached to music is different but that don't mean that
Drake's approach to music is wrong, right, Like it's not
saying you know, like Drake makes good music, yes, great records.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
The thing is people have a hard time because with
comparison and competition in comparison, somehow has to be competition too,
you know, like I can't have one without the other.
I can't have one and the other. But you can
have Michael and Prince and you can appreciate both what
they've done.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's just interesting how they how Kendrick has like a
I don't want to say a reputation, but he's almost
looked at as an underground artist. But that's like he's not.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
He's like successfully commercial, but he started that way the
Section eighty that had that, that had.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
That, But he kind of is under around artists and
it's just his records just crossover. Drake makes records to crossover.
Kendrick just does himself and his records just cross over.
But you know, we love it so much.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Princes could considered, in a sense at that time an
underground artist, raw different than any black artists that was out,
you know what I mean, and that shook the world.
I mean, it's gonna be controversial what I say, but
it shook the world so much that Michael changed his vibe.
Four years later, came out with Bad and he had
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long hair, buckles and leather and all that. That that
Purple Rain impact, that Oscar's influential.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
That was crazy.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
I can only imagine he had the cool. But I
just hate the fact that people can't love both artists.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
You can know a lot of people, which is crazy.
I don't, but Kendrick and I love Drake in the back.
I look different than y'all right, and this is just me.
And Charlamagne was like, we'll prove it if I feed
you in for me allegedly, because we don't know if
it's true. This we just would drinks. Yet, if I
feed your information and you go off that information, that
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kind of it doesn't it's not true.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I can't really say if that's true. If it is,
it's like, that's genius to me. It's not nonsense. It's nonsense.
We know it's nonsense. Stop it, pull it back.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
You documented, It's all documented on Twitter and all the
news and all of this. That and the third you've
been doing this for how many years now? It doesn't
matter it's a rap battle. It doesn't have to be
true kind of does No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
If I give you information and you know all that
information I.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Got back in the day, maybe right, but right now
it doesn't. Now now it's a different thing. It's it's
how can I get you off your rocker?
Speaker 11 (40:54):
How can I get you off everything about you in
the world and people like and you and you can
as much as you But if that's ye is it?
Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's a game.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
They both in trust.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
J Cole won.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
He got out of there.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Listen, J co sleep is good.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Bro.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
That was like just to be like, you know, bro,
that didn't go up go and mess with my spirit.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And I'm so grateful that that came to me.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
I had that that that premonition or whatever to say,
you know what, I'm backing out. You can do whatever
you want, bro, but I can just see this ain't
gonna be good for.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Me maybe, And I don't want to go down that road.
Speaker 7 (41:39):
And I rather sleep good than YE sleep and then
wake up wanting to go back to sleep because I
don't know if it's another track about me.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
I don't want to anyone out there imagine that type
of sleep man, you ain't sleeping or a lie.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Kendrick, nowaday nobody cares about the truth from the line,
you might just get me with a lie. Now everybody
think I'm missing that.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
My wife laying wrong with She asked me, you hit me.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Watch the shot.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Just watch the shot. That's right, the shot.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
This is amazing, right back. We learned a lot, we
learned to spin off of the shot. Coming there it is.
Jacob still loves Surrea for s you said, just it.
It's fine. Season six of the Side is great, and
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it may not be the final season. There you go.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
The B side is them.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
You have to watch them. I will watch it with
your together, already watch it.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Tap in, tap in, tap in? Why not?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
She's really been talking about the show for long.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
You should you should?
Speaker 6 (42:46):
I think you should tap in because when we talk
about as a community, when we talk about we want
nuanced UH films and and so on, this is nuanced.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
This is different.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
And I'm not saying it because I'm a part of it.
I'm saying it because that's what it is, and we
have to support it. We have to see it, and
and other artists will come about from this from this happening.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
You know and why not enjoy it definitely.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Well, we appreciate you guys joining Breakfast Club, y'all flowers. Man,
this is this is this is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Man.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
We you know, we always excited to pull up on you.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
It's a answer call at first, but thank you so
much for having.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
What about what ab our producers just said Season seven
has been Greenland. I don't know how true that is.
I try to google it, but.
Speaker 4 (43:39):
Don't stop playing.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
This team just texted me, shy. Season seven has been greenland.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
We find out. We find out when y'all find out.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Problem.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Congratulations relations Coratu wow dangla.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
We'll see the six returns. Make tempt see the seven
has been greenlit.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Congratulation.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, wake that ass up
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
The Breakfast Club.
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