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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning, Everybody's d j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy
we are the Breakfast Club just is on maternity leave.
So Laura La Rose is filling in. And we got
our niece with us today, Nyla.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Big Nyla.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
All right, And we got a special guest in the building.
We have October London.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome brother. Good morning, sir, Good morning. How do you feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I feel good? Feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man. Is it hard to put on the double Vestitude
and tie ensemble in.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The morning, Not at all. I actually love it. Fresh
look very fresh, Yeah for sure. Sometimes I sleeping on
the bus.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Now you're signed to death row Yeah with Snoop.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, now talk about how you got the deal and
how he heard you and how that all came together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't know, yeaheah. So I was actually on my
way to graduating truck driving school truck and school truck
and school. No, I quit right before some times. Yeah,
I was a.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Lot of trucks. I just don't like how they drive.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, it's a lot to it. But I was about
to I didn't. I didn't do it because I end
up linking up with Jazzy Fay. I ended up, you know,
linking up with him through a friend of a friend,
and I got his number and I text him like, Yo,
I got these records, you know, blah blah blah blah.
But I was sending them records. They were rap records,
their records for future, their records for all these other artists.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You were producing.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, I was producing, you know. I was writing
them all. Oh yeah, yeah, putting hooks on him. And
I happened to just kind of sneak in one of
my songs that I did call color Blind that had
that kind of Marvin lane, and I sent it to him.
I just waited, and he hit me back and was like, Yo,
you got some you got some heat, you know, linking
(01:41):
up with somebody. He didn't tell me who it was.
He was like, I'm not gonna tell you what it
is or anything like that, but I'm looking over with somebody,
like really important legend in the game. I might play
it for him. I was like, oh, awesome, cool, Yeah, yeah,
you know, it's I've been through the Ringer, you know,
so I'm like, all right, cool, whatever, whatever, you know.
So I kept going back to school all that kind
of stuff as far as trucking and and come. But
we kept, you know, conversation on and off. So that
(02:03):
was like that was like December when I got to
talking to him first. So fast forward to about February
and he hit me up and he was like, yo,
you remember I told you I was gonna play your
records for someone. I was like yeah. He was like,
I'm gonna have him call you or we're gonna call
you together and you can talk to him and he can,
you know, tell you what's up. I was like, all right, cool,
this was twenty sixteen now, yeah, yeap to sixteen. And
(02:26):
the night before the Super Bowl he hit me up
and was like, yo, I got that person online. Hold
on a second, and he was with him and he
was like, yeoh it's the big homie Snoop dog Man.
I'm a big fan. I was like, oh, how did
you feel? I honestly, I was like this, this has
got to be a joke. I'm like, you know, at
that point, I'm like, nah, this can't be real. And
(02:47):
yeah it was. It was real. And he was like, Yo,
I'm gonna fly you out. Me and Jazzy gonna link
up talk about you know how we're gonna do this.
We're gonna do it together. Said okay, cool, And a
couple of days after that he was like, YOA, we're
gonna fly you out around March, so you know, got
there March sixteen, two thou and that was a wrap.
That's when I met him.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
But why why just throw away to CEDL dream? We
need a lot more shut up?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
But I mean he was right there.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He was, I was right there, but I don't know.
It just wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't for me at that.
I mean, I'm not gonna pass up opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'm asking I guess the question I'm really asking about
it just faith, Like, how does your discernment say, man,
even though I've been doing this for so long and
I'm right there, I'm gonna have faith in this situation
over here to pull come through.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I don't know. I believe in God. So I just
kind of was going off for him, and I really
was like, no, this is gonna be messed up. You
need to go stick with this due to nine to five.
It's just gonna be another obstacle. You're not gonna make
it the same thing I've been doing for years. At
this point, I've been oh, it's about to be on.
Oh now, it's not happening. It's about to be on always.
(03:49):
I've done that several times over. So at first I
was kind of skeptical. I was like, man, you're gonna
go out here, was gonna hear your music. It's gonna say, okay, cool,
You're gonna do one song. It's not gonna go nowhere.
I'm thinking a million things. And it just happened, you know,
it just we got there, me and him click. You know,
me and him both are libras. So we did one song.
(04:10):
He played one beat. He's like, yo, I want you
to hear this track. He played it got it's called
top Down. I think it's out still. And he played
that record and I instantly started, you know, writing to it,
and I had a hook really quick, and he was like, damn, okay,
all right. He's like going to the studio and you know,
record it, went in there, recorded it, he put his
verse on there. He's like, all right, let me do
(04:32):
something else. Put it another beat and I did that
one really quick and he was like, okay, So you
got a little work ethic and then me and him
for the next six months, maybe three to six months,
just back and forth working at it. Chose like work
ethic because he was like, okay, you you're for real,
You're free.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
How did your family feel about you being like, oh, okay,
I was this close, but I'm gonna just go over
here and do this thing because they've been riding aways
with you, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, they've been riding and raised with me for a
long time. But they've been really supportive. Family friends, everybody's
been supportive. I don't know how many times I've all
my boy Jamie, but.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They in the business. Though.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Your mom's a singer of your dad.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
My dad was. My dad was in the business. Yeah,
my dad was in the business. He toured and you know,
to with Earth Wind and Fire and all that probably
opening up for him something like that, but it never
really reached this level. So he's a static gotcha.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So that's where your soul for like, your household was
full of music.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Absolutely, I hear it all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah. I grew up on before even listening to even rapper,
even Snooper any thing. I was listening to Earth Wind
and Fire. I was listening to confunction. I was just
not you know, so many artists, Frankie Beverly rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So I've been listening to old school for a while
and then I started listening to jazz and I started
getting into that more, a little bit of Miles Davis.
So as far as music goes, I'm all.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Across the board.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Now where were you before you got the call to
go to LA Because how does the truck driver connect
with Jassey fay Well?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I mean, you know, it was just because my boy
knew somebody that knew something. It was. It was that
whole you gotta know somebody kind of aspect to it. So,
you know, my boy DeMarco Black called me and was like, Yo,
come over to the house. I got this contact. I
was like, all right, Cool. I was like, man, I
really don't want to do this. Man, I'm doing this.
I'm about to do this nine to five things. Man,
I'm tired. I don't want to you know. I went
(06:07):
over there. I was like, okay, cool, let's let's make
this call. And then we ended up making a call
in it. It just worked out.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Were you doing all of this in Indiana or did
you like venture out to another.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, I was doing all this in South Bend, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, South Bend, Indiana, that's where Mayor Pete used to
be used to be.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's right. Yeah, yeah, he gave me a proclamation before
he dipped out office.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
What kind of time today? That must be like a
progressive time if they like the first well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Know if he's the first game man. He had to
be the first game man of South Bend.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right, yeah, I mean it's up. Yeah, you have Notre Dame.
I live right across street from Notre Dame, so yeah,
so you have that. But yeah, it's a college town.
It's you know, it's not too small and it's not
it's not a big town at all.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But yeah, he gave you what the key to the city.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, no, he gave me the option. He said, either
I can give you the key to the city, because
he had heard Colorblind and saw where I was going
with it. And it's not South Bend. It's definitely not
musically inclined at all. It's more sports. It's Notre Dame
or it's Colt so it's all that kind of stuff.
So he was like, you can either a Keida city,
you can have the proclamation. I was like, okay, well
was the key to the city even open up? But it's like,
you know nothing, but you could have this proclamation and
(07:04):
I was like yeah, yeah. I was like, well, I
mean I knew, but I was just like I was
kind of being you know, I was joking, joking like yeah,
what door is? Like what is this? Are you know
what am I getting out for this? And he was
like no, it's just you know. I was like no.
I was like, no, I'm good. I was like, what's proclamatic?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, just let it just go?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
A great dude piece a gret dude.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah yeah, no, No, he's good. He's good. So it
was like the proclamation you have your own day and
they have to celebrate you for the rest of your
life on this day. And I was like, I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Now. You signed to death Row?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Was were you nervous to sign the death or because
this was the relaunch of death Row and I'm sure,
you know, with with icons like pop and Snoop and
DPG and all that, I'm sure people were assuming the
first one was gonna be a rapper, right, a hardcore rapper.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But it was it was you. Was you nervous at all. Absolutely, yeah,
I just knew. I was in the room when he
was finishing the call, like deals done, okay cool. I
was like, bad, oh, this is gonna be dope for you, man,
you know, gonna find some dope wrapper out of la
or somewhere like that. And he was like, no, no, no,
it's gonna be you. I'm like, what, like that don't
even make sense. This is a gangst the rap label.
(08:10):
Like I thought we was doing this other thing. He
was like, no, no, no, You're gonna be the flagship for
death Row. I been to learn how to crip. Well
yeah like that really you know, I'm working on it,
but I'm just like, man, I don't know if that's
gonna work out, but it's snoop. You kind of roll
with that and it worked out. It was just we're like,
we're gonna put out this R and B album. Whatever
(08:30):
this R and B album is gonna be. We didn't
figure out what it was. He knows I'm a multi
genre artist, so he's like, we're gonna figure it out
along the way, but you're gonna be the first person
that we put out.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
And I was then your death Row like legacy like
Doctor Dre or Sugar like commented on your work.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Uh yeah, Doctor Dre has for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I've
been in the studio with doctor Dre several times. I'm
actually on the new uh drean Snoop album that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
This year Missionary.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, missionary crazy title. I love it. I love it.
So I've I've been able to hear that whole album
in full. That album sounds incredible, by the way, so
shout out to Dreams.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So on that level, is it cause you know, a
lot of expectation Dre and Snoop. He's saying is to
follow up the doggy starts, a lot of expectation.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It meets the mark.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, it hits the mark definitely. So you know, Dre
Dre definitely loves my music. I've played the other stuff too,
but he really loves And even that track that I'm
on is very Marvin Gay esque because he you know,
he loves Marvel.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Now I'm being nosy. Is the project cohesives? Like is
there a message with a missionary or like I.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Don't want to give too much? Yeah, I don't want
to give too much. I don't want to you know,
I don't need Drake calling me. I do not need that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
What happened with the Marvin Gate wasn't Dre doing the
mark what they were doing a Marvin Gaatee movie and
he was doing the soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Were you involved in that?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I heard. I heard that there
was a soundtrack or something like that, or a movie,
but I don't know where it was going. And I
think I was going to be a part of that.
But I haven't really heard anything on this. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
When you put out the Rebirth of Marvin, I thought
you was a bug.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know I saw it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I saw it because I felt like you were putting
too much pressure on yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Because when you compare yourself the mythical I ghosts like Marvin,
that's an impossible bar to reach.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So what was your mindset?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I know you put that up. I didn't that album
was not supposed to come out. That album was that.
I wasn't trying to be Marvin, not trying to fill
his shoes. I'm not trying to do any of that.
As not what I was trying to do. Like I said,
I'm a multi genre artists. I just go off of vibes.
So if I'm feeling, oh today, I'm gonna do pop today,
then I'm gonna go in the studio probably knock out
(10:25):
a whole pop album real quick, and I'm gonna go
ahead and set the sidecause that's what I'm feeling. So
I go off of feeling, you know, feeling the music
and what I'm you know, what I'm feeling at that time.
So I was in the studio and if you've been
to Snoops compound, he plays music twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week through the hallways. And at that time,
I was in the studio just going through stuff and
trying to figure out what track I was gonna do next,
(10:46):
and Marvin played like three four times, so then instantly
in my head, I'm already in that zone. So I
was like, okay, cool. Then Snoop sent over a track
and I was like, oh, this is dope. And then
I started doing it and I was like, oh, it
sounds a little bit Marvin, but I'm just gonna keep
doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Liked it so much, so I was like, I'm gonna
do another track, and then Snoop came in and was like, Yo,
this is really dope, let me know when you you know,
finished with it, because he knows I like to work
and like, I like to work in spurts, so I
don't do just one track and go to next. Like
I'm like, well, if I've done too I might as
well do eight more and make it an album. And
I just put it up. I have a bunch of records,
just put up. I finished the record in like a week.
(11:26):
Rebirth of Marvin was done in the week. I pretty
much freestyled the whole thing as far as freestyle, and
I know it's different, but it's like going up to
the mic and just kind of saying what I feel.
Did that Like Back to Your Place was done in
an hour. My Holland Drive was done the hour. Both
of those went number one. So that's how I do
all of my music. So I put it away. I
was like, all right, that was fun. I was in
that Marvin Lane Gray, let me put aside. Now let
(11:46):
me get on this Bryce and Tiller lane real quick,
because that's what I wanted to put out. That's what
I thought Dog wanted me to do, and that's not
what happened. Dog came in and it was like, what
you're doing I'm like, oh, I'm just putting it up.
I'm gonna start on this. He was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're putting this out. I was like, no, nobody want
to hear old School right now. It's like, trust me,
this is the lane is open. Nobody's doing it right now.
(12:07):
Let's just do it all right. Cool, but it sounds
a little bit like Marvin. It's like, no, I don't
worry about that. I'm like, they're gonna chew me. They're
gonna chew my ass up. So you know, we started
sitting with the album Back to Your We put it out.
We didn't even pick a single. We let the audience pick.
They picked back to Your Place. They picked mahaland drive.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know many girls. I know that I love back
to You for real?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Yes, that song is I didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I forget what I was playing, but I think it
might have been made me on Instagram.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
But that song.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I was like, what is this song? I was telling
Envy that like that is how I found you because
of the song. I didn't know who you were. And
then I heard the song and I was like, who
is october Line? I started googling I'm like, death Row,
like it just.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
All of it.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Yeah, but it made me I was so interested.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I'm like, Okay, if death Row is going to go
for this type of sonic sound, he has to be talented.
So it made me want to listen to more because
it just was completely different than what I thought it
would be. But I know that, like some people did
have things to say, but a lot of people love
the music because it sounds good.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
But I know that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
La gret Ziola gay who's Marvin Gaye's sister, she had
made some comments that she liked the music, but she
did say that she was just confused why you would
want to sound like another person and not do original songs?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Like what do you get out of it? Did you
get to have a conversation with.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Her family or yeah? I did?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
She was seemed like she was mad as hell at me,
which I knew that was going to happen. I was like,
you know, and Dog wanted the name it Rebirth, and
Marvin I did not. I was like, let's just call
it the Rebirth. I tried to push towards that, but
you know, I'm following. You know. At this point, I'm like, Okay,
all right. You know, Dog has a plan. He's gonna
go with it. He's been right this whole time. I've
been with him for a long time. I know him.
(13:42):
Let's just do that. And we called it Rebirth and
Marvin because that's what he wanted to Tyler. And then yeah,
she was not happy about that because she was like, yeah,
you can sing, that's great, but you sound like my
brother little bit and it's freaking me out. And I
was like, that's cool. I just wish she at that
point she didn't go, you know, on wax and say
also stuff. Yeah, and just I wish he just would
(14:04):
have called me or called Dog or somebody like that,
because then people got on her that love my music,
that love back to your place. So then they attacked her,
and I'm like, we have to stop this. But then,
you know, we end up getting on a call together,
me and a few of the other family members and
they were like, we completely support you. We understand now
that you're not trying to be Marvin. You don't even
want to fill his shoes or anything like that. You
(14:26):
were just in a vibe and I was like, that's
what I've been trying to tell everyone, Like that's not me.
I was just feeling something for.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
People that never heard you, right, Because we're introducing you
to some people that might not never heard you listening,
some people might think that you are mimicking artist, right
because you just said I was in a Marvin zone
and then I was in a Brison zone.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, So even on the new album, it's like old
sounds like.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Kelly a little bit. So who is O Tooler London?
And where what does the sound come from? Because when
I when I first heard I thought it was like, well,
that's his voice. He can't change his voice. It sounds
like Marvin. He sounds like Marvin. But who is I
toober London?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Then?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, October one is okay. So this new album, ober Nights,
it's more of a transitional album. It's getting out of
that lane. I'm finally being like, okay, guys, let's get
away from this. When it's when you start the album,
you know you have uh you have touch on me
and all those records like that, and then yeah, like
you said, r Kelly's been you know, my top number
one artist because I mean the writing style, I mean,
(15:18):
come on, it's Kels. Then once you get towards the
end of the album where you have a big record
called time, that's me, you know what I'm saying, Like
those records, that's me, like enjoying myself. And then the
third album obviously when I whenever I do that, then
you're gonna get all of me. But right now, it's
just kind of showing people that I can do these
waves and I know that we're missing this sound. I'm
(15:40):
not necessarily taken from everybody. I just have been listening
to everybody so much like Kels and Ronald Esey and
all that. I just take this a little bit, put
it here, but I don't really take from them. I'm
just taking that vibe to give you that vibe, give
you that love and that pain, and that that you
know what you feel, what we've been feeling for years.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
So this is a transition project. I still feel like
sonically production kind of sounds cohesive. Do you have like
a built in team that you worked with or did
you decide to work with new people for this project?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I mean usually usually, and Snoop will tell you usually,
I do everything myself, Like I I write, I produce
a mix, I master, I engineer myself because I'm like,
I gotta get it done right now, Like I feel
something I need to get done. I don't want to
sit here and be like, oh, hey, engineer, what's up.
I can be there at four o'clock. No, no, no, no,
I gotta feel this now. So I learned to do
(16:32):
all this stuff on my own, so I do on
this album on October Nights. I teamed up with producers
like Jeff Giddy, Pooh Bear. I got with baby Face,
you know, obviously Snoop executive produced the album as well,
and I got with my my homie Superfly. Also, everybody
knows Superfly, so yeah, legend in the game. So he
(16:53):
came through put his spin on it as well, and
it came out really It came out really well because
we had kind of went through a thing where I submitted,
like this album. You're like, all right, let's change this,
let's put horns here, let's do this, and it just
turned out so beautiful. I love it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I would love to know what the Baby Fath sessions
were like, because I know Babyfaith, he didn't want you
to come in on nothing except for you.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm sure what was that energy?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Like? It was good energy, man. We pulled up. He
was just ready to get down to business. Like immediately,
there was no oh, let's kick it in, chill, let's eat,
let's have a little breakfast and all. He was just
like are you ready. I'm like, yeah, let's go in there.
And we did the session. We knocked it out. It
didn't even take all day. Really, he went to writing it.
I just let him do his thing, because you know,
you're in front of a legend. I'm not trying to
(17:38):
be like, well, I do this, and I'm not about
to do I'm about to sit here and what you
need me to do coaching, Like yeah, I mean yeah,
he did man in the lab. We actually, yeah, it
was a lot. I'm not going okay, I can't. I
can't hold it was a lot. And he knows it
was a lot because I was like, oh, it was
funny because we were doing the takes. He was like, oh, okay,
let's do this first take of this and I do
the line. I was like, card, let's do it again,
(18:00):
do the line. I'm like, okay, that second one was perfect.
We're good. That's what I want to say. All Right,
we're good, let's go. Let's go to the next sign.
He's like, nah, let's do it again and again. I'm like, okay,
all right, okay, cool, I will do it. And he's like,
all right, cool, now you're ready to really do it.
I'm like, I thought we were just doing it. I
thought that was it. He was like, oh no, I
wasn't recording at all. I was just making sure you
(18:20):
were on top of it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I thought the classes get made though.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'm like, okay, cool. So see, and that's I'm not
used to that. I'm used to, Like I said, back
to your place one take boom the first lign, it
was just boom, boom, boom. I just make it quickly.
And even when I told him that, he was like, yeah, no, impossible, Like, no,
that's how I do my record. So he was like, oh,
so I'm really at this point, you know, like putting
you through it. I was like, yeah, but it's cool, man,
(18:44):
it's all good. I'm ready to learn.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's all good.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Did you ever think in your life did you probably
signed the Ovial or did you ever want to sign
an Ovial?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah? I did absolutely. I'm a fan of Drake, so yeah,
I definitely wanted to. I remember having conversations with Snoop like, hey,
you know who he should go to? Man, who I
should do some records? Let me go over here and
go to Drake. He's like, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Yeah,
I'll call him all right? Cool? And then I wait
and Kendrick?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
All that up?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Man, Kendrick, Yeah, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, but
I like them both.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Why did you ask that?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah? So I wanted to be that, you know, I
was like, oh, October birthdays ten seventeen, this would be
perfect fit.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But or Gucci.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Gucci is ten seven. Yeah, yeah that's right, that's right.
But Snoop is a great, great fit. Man. I just love,
I really love. I'm actually a happy artist. Like I
talked to so many artists that are just so unhappy
and depressed, and you know, it's like they have people
over their shoulders all the time, and that's not what
happens at Death Throw. Snooper's like, hey, how are you
feeling this week? I'm feeling like a pop record? All right, cool,
(19:49):
call me when it's done. That's it. There's no stress
about it. There's no ah, we shouldn't do that. Let's
do it.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Being someone who has done it all for so long, like,
for yourself, what was the transition like having to take
the lead of like other people with your vision?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Tough, very because I've just been, like I said, I've
been doing this for so long, learning, doing this engineering thing,
doing the mixing, doing all this stuff, and I'm just like, Okay,
I can get this done. Because I look at a
lot of artists, it's like, oh yeah, I really want
Shah Day to drop another album. It's like, oh, eight
years later, I don't like it doesn't in my head
(20:30):
because I just taught myself. In my head, I'm like
to take that much. So and now look at other
arts too, and I'm like, well, you got all the resources,
you have everybody's number in your phone. Why isn't your
album getting done quicker? Like why aren't you? Maybe they're
not in the zone. Maybe they're getting pressured. I don't know.
I just like I said, I'm a happy artist, so
I'm not pressured by anything. I'm financially stable, like I'm good,
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so I can go in the studio right now and
be like okay, cool, you need all right, I'll work
on the third album right now, or I work on
a country record, I work on a pot whatever. Because
he that's what helps me make great R and B
is by switching genres, taking a break because I don't
want to I don't want to be Marvin, So let
me not get too heavy in that back. Let me
go over here to the country real quick and write
this real quick and just take a break and then
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go over here to something else.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I was tour with Maxwell and Jazmine.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Sellivan amazing, amazing, two great artists. Me and Maxweld close. Man,
He's just a really great dude, like he's been making
sure everybody's taking care of and just been amazing. The
crowd is just absolutely just I'm like, I'm in awe
of they saying word for word even my stuff, you know,
and me opening up for them like I did my
(21:41):
first tour in January, which sold out majority of the
tour and they were singing it. Then I was like,
I don't know if they're gonna do it this time.
They're doing it this time as well.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
By that you said, even by stuff like yeah no,
because I.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Just in my head, I'm just still this dude in Soubn,
Indiana that's trying to make it. I'm still feel like
I'm going to the studio just trying to Oh, man,
I really hope they like it. I still have.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That slighting poster syndrome.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm like, man, there's there's no way.
I don't think they're gonna like this. I don't snoops
heard me say. I don't think they're gonna like this
one hundred times over. I did not think they're gonna
like Rebirth of Marvin. I didn't think they're going to
back to your place. What I was like, No, there's
no way. I was like this ain't this ain't hot
right now? And they love it. And I'm like, okay,
So that's why I like letting the people decide.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
But you let the real You let the You were
kind of letting the trends of R and B guide
you as opposed to what traditional R and B is,
because you make to me traditional R and B. But
you thought, because of the way people make R and
B now, they don't want to hear this tradition exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You wanted to redo bitches ain't shit but holding trick
R and B right, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, actually, yeah, I think that was gonna send you.
I'm gonna send you.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Something through Like when I heard it, I was like,
who is I thought you? Honestly, I thought you were
like an older guy, like somebody. I really was so surprised.
I was like, what is this song? And then I
just kept hearing it. So to hear that you didn't
even think that we were gonna like it, I'm like,
that is insane. I'm so happy that you didn't get
in your own way.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
No, no, no, definitely would like to add that I
went to that show at Barclay's. The mic was on,
and that was really impressive too, because a lot of
people vocally live don't hit like the actual record.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Now the MIC's were on, man Max is on,
Japmanin's Own Mind is on, And I make sure I
let people know like I'm not I'm not an auto
tuned artist. I have my face. When T Pain came out,
I was everything. I have a list of albums in
my heart just so T Pain. It's ridiculous, you know
what I'm saying. So I was like, oh, this is it, Boom,
(23:55):
I'm gonna do this, you know, I'm gonna get on
like doing this. And it's that time where like ten
times over, like oh okay, Nope, that didn't work out.
Oh I got this meeting with nevermind that didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
So this is really random. But speaking of like trying
to like things not working out, you were on Empire.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was on Empire. Yeah, and then you were so
you did.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I've read about it. You were doing really well. They
were talking about making you a bigger character Empire.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, and all the Jesse Jesse smallest stuff happened.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
That we didn't know. When you walked in, I'm like,
I know.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
He was pissed that one is so perfect for you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Come home man, No, I mean yeah, I thought it was.
That was my first time doing any type of acting.
Snoop was like, yeah, I'm gonna we're gonna add you
to Empire. Like, no, I can't act. He was like,
yeah you can't. No, I can't, man, that's not my lane.
I'm just come on man. And I went on, come
on man, and I went on there and and did it,
and the director was like, how long you've been acting?
(25:00):
I was like today. He was like, I think we
should sit down and talk. I'm like, okay, this is
the thing. I still think I'm dreaming. So I'm like
there's no way even being on here to breakfast. I've
been watching y'all for a long time. It's like like
just as I was sitting in the background, was just like, damn,
this is really happening. So that's how I kind of
felt on Empire. So then when Jesse mess it up
(25:22):
for me, as soon as as soon as I turned
on the news, I'm like sh I was like, come on,
come on, Maine, come on, Mane, don't do me like that, skinny.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
It's interesting, right, because these are the type of stories
when you really really take off, everybody's be like damn,
this guy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Came out and know it. But you've been with snoopsin.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Just doing background stuff like doing you know, when I
first got with him, He's like, Yo, I'm about to
go on tour. Once you come on tour with me.
So me doing a small crowd, it didn't start off
that way. It started off with fifty thousand people. So
now when I'm doing this just been at Max. Max
is like you're really comfortable and says I'm like yeah,
I'm like small crowds make me anxious. Really small crowds.
(26:11):
If I'm in a crowd of like a hundred. I'm like,
I can hear everybody's thoughts like that, nigg ain't hitting
a note like that, and you know, like he sound
a little dry today, you know. So doing that kind
of just molded me to be a better performer. So
doing that and then now coming on this tour where
it's you know, tens twenty thousand people, it just feels
(26:33):
feels normal to me. And being with Snoops in twenty sixteen,
I've just been doing that, been touring with him several
times overseas everything and just doing like the all the
stuff with him and Martha Stewart, Like I did the
song for the Him and Mont Stewart show, the Cooking
with Mark, you know, and I did that record and
then all his albums from twenty sixteen I've been on.
(26:55):
I've been doing backgrounds or I've been doing hooks. So
I've just been chilling and really caking up.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is October London.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Trust his own talent, not not not his ability to
I guess sound like others, but do you trust your
own Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I've been doing it for a while, so I know
exactly what I can do. I have so much stuff
in the hard drive that I can't wait to drop,
like it makes me anxious. Even being on the bus
this whole tour, I'm just listening to the records, and
everybody gets together and we listen to all the records
and we're just like, yo, this is really just the
starting point, Like they have no idea what's to come?
(27:31):
You know, can we play a record with.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I was gonna say, I know you're involved on the
Doggie Land for kids.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, talk to me about what do you what exactly
do you do?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, I've been so what I'm saying,
so you know, Snep's been looking out for a long time.
Snoop came in the studio one day or one night
and was like, Hey, what do you think about doing
a kids record? And I was like, yeah, that's fine,
whatever I can do that. I made one kid record.
He came back in the studio, let me hear what
you got played it. He was like, Joe, can you
(28:04):
do anohing like that? I was like, yeah, of course.
This time I called my son on FaceTime. My son's seven, uh,
and I was like, hey, I need you to add
some vocals to this, you know. He was like okay, Dad.
You know, And this time we did a record called
brush Brush, so we ended up doing that and Snoop
came in. He was like, who is the kid. I
(28:25):
was like, it's my son, said nephew. He was like, oh,
like okay, cool, I think we should do an album.
All right, cool, give me till tomorrow because I'm quick.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I'm like tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Album.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Color when we came out in twenty sixteen. We
came out when I uh Me and Snoop came out
with Color Blind. I did eighteen songs in two or
three days. I got myself sick, and he was like,
all right, you need to go back to the hotel,
like because I was like, no, one shot, you get
one shot, and that was my one shot. I'm knocking
out eight to this, so I'm very I knock him
out really quick. So he was like okay, cool. So
(28:58):
I knocked out the album and then he called Claude
Brooks and he was like, Yo, I got an idea
for a show. Let's call it Doggie Lanb. And now
I'm I'm the co creator of Doggie Lanb. I am
the voice of Woolfie and I do the music that's dope.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You don't see this type of artist development, the more
you don't see people just like working with an artist
every step of the way, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And then most artists went it right away. Remember he
been seeing the twenty sixteen. Most arts would have left
the twenty seventeen. It was like, I ain't popping yet.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm gone, Yeah, you've seen the vision.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, I saw the vision. But Snooper tell you
I gave him a hard time too.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Absolutely, I mean, yeah, I get you.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
The artist that you see popping, it was like, yo,
that could have been that should have been me, Bryceon Tailler.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I wouldn't say Bryceon Tailor. Brce Stilla came out of nowhere.
To me, I was like, oh, this is dope. I'm
actually a fan of Bryson Tailor. I don't know what
artists came up. I know one artist that made me
actually kind of pissed me off, to be honest, and
that was and that and I'll tell you the story.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Why.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So it's two thousand and four, who was popping? Who
just came out with just gotta make it, It's gotta
make tray all day. He got the braids, I got
the braids. Light skinned. I'm light skinned, and my boy
Travis looked at me and was like, damn, you don't
let this nigga eat you up like that, and he
just walked away. And ever since then, I've just Paul
definitely paused pause him on the side.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He should have paused the back door before with the key,
but keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah missed it, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
He missed it. So so at that point I was like, okay,
cool and made me competitive. So I'm super super competitive,
like I've been on I'm not gonna say the artists,
but I've been on different shows where you know, it's
several artists on this show, and they'll do certain things,
and I'll go in the back room and I'll put
on Michael Jordan's last dance and I'll sit there for
(30:51):
about a good thirty forty minutes watch that, and I
go out there and compete. Yep, everything's a competition. In
dark Snoop will consistently like it's not a competition, man,
you don't have to be like, you know, I be
so hardy and something like nah, you see the high
note he did, No, no, no, I can't let him live.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I love that. Though. How exhausting was it working with Tyres?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You know? Tyres is a is a great friend of mine.
He's a great d's a great guy, great existent at all.
He just he's passionate. He's just a passionate person. He
puts he literally wears his heart on his sleeve and
you got to give it to him.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Sure, But how exhausting was it working in the studio?
We all know him, like, like I just want to know,
like Bedroom Bully, how long did it take y'all to
make that record?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
That didn't take a day?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Not with him, I don't know how long it took him.
You know how long it took me. So he sent
he sent the record to me and was like, I
got this record. He called me, So, I got this record.
I think you'd be great on it. It's very secret garden.
I was like, okay, bad, just just send it. I
was in the lab already sent the beat and I
was like, yo, this is dope. And he had a
(31:59):
little bit of his vocal on it, and I was like, okay, cool.
So really I wanted him to do his vocals first
because the competitive part. And then I was like, no,
I don't worry about it. You know it's Tyree's I
ain't tripping you know, we brothers. I went in and
put my part on there, then he put his part
on there and that was it. But it took me,
you know, thirty minutes knocked that out. I don't know
how long it took him to get his knocked out,
(32:19):
but for me, it was it was nothing but bedroom
Billy is. And that's on the album too, it's on
his an min.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
When you do a song like that, do you feel
pressure to always deliver to a woman sexually?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Absolutely? Absolutely? I love cars and women period.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Did you guys make this record before after you almost
burned his house down?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That's just what I was after.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
This was after person.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
The person that almost burnt his house down is sitting
right behind. No.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, well this was the house in l a.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Uh No, Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Atlanta is Atlanta?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
What happened, Bernard Hooka. That's the only way.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
You burn the house down now, right, Because you know,
we were listening to some music and we're all, you know, drinking,
except for Tyree because Tyres don't drink. And uh my
boy Jamie was listening to the music. He got hyped
up and he was just like, whoa, you know, this
is the records, gonna be crazy and he got up
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and he knocked it over. Nobody noticed that first, and
I turned. I looked, and I was like, I saw
security moving really fast. One of the security guys moving
really fast. He started patting on the floor, and I'm like,
what the hell is he doing? Stinky leg or something.
Don't know what the hell he's doing. And I was
just like, okay, cool, alright. I guess he's feeling the record.
And I look, I'm like, oh, oh, oh the rugs
on fire. His vultron rugs on fire. I was like,
oh nice. So he's trying to put that out, grabbing
(33:42):
the coals off the thing and all that, and Jamie
felt bad, and Tyrese gives him, gives him ship every time.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
What flavor was the hookah, damn it.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't even know. I don't know. It might have
been like mango buried cream or something, and.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
That y'ard almost brunt that house do mango burried?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh right, that is not a good way to go out. So,
you know, every every time tyree sees Jamie, he's like,
he can't come in my house, he can't come out. Yeah,
hes be a carver, but you know he lets me
in anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
So it's good not a song. Time did you have
wedding song in mind when you wrote that?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Absolutely? Absolutely? So. Time actually is we are in twenty
twenty four, so that was done in eight, So what
do we It's fifteen fifteen, sixteen years in a game.
It's been sitting in my hard drive for fifteen sixteen years.
So that's an old song, old song that me and
my one of my best friends, Mike Letter out of Miami,
(34:39):
we did that record and yeah, I played it for
a dog. I think I played it maybe four or
five six times, and he remembers and then doesn't remember,
but he remembered. At this time, he was like, yeah,
we should put this on the album. And I loved
it because I've been waiting to put that album out
because it's just a beautiful ballad.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
You didn't do nothing to it. You just that's how
recording remixed.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, remix and we added, uh, we added some
organ to it. Superfly came in and added like little
little things to you know, a little splashes. But other
than that same record, when.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
You wrote that, in a way, what was your mind?
Is there somebody you wanted to marry or somebody you wanted.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Nah, I was a I was a sap man back
in eight so I was doing everything I possibly could.
You know I was doing. I was doing the most.
I ain't nothing wrong, like like a kind of like
you know, I was sucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Nothing wrong with it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But you know you would tell a woman stuff like that.
I want to spend the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh my god, I had poems and ship. Nothing's wrong
with it.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
You was texting the poems or you were, like mail them.
I feel that you would mail them.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I was, I was. I was.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Depending how old you are after era we come from,
We come from that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know you go with me?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
No, maybe I just want.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
To know because.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
We always on line like we missed that, like the begging,
begging love you, we love you.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
You was doing it and you guys.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Back then. For some reason, I can't write a single
poem now.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I just buy what happened, No happening.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I got my heart broke and then got my heart
broken again.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I didn't mean to laught.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's all right, you just laughing pain.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Nobody to hear that because that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
In the white man. No, she's like the White Man.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Travis Travis Caleb Plant but your.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Life and so she's willing to meet in the middle.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's but she went to Delaware State HBC.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Mm hmm, all right, you got more The sappiness makes
for great music.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
I mean you're trying to say, yea.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Even the record uh Eternity that got on the Color
Purple soundtrack, that was a fifteen sixteen year old record.
I did Eternity right after me and Mike did Eternity
right after Time.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
So Third Shift was a fresh, freshly done record. I
saw you just preview that.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Was that the.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Bridge or the hook that she was playing? Who was
in there conducting this?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
What for the whole record?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
For?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah? I went to Jeff Giddy and Jeff was like, Yo,
you want to record it here? I was like no,
I'm going home, and I flew back home to South Ben.
I recorded there and then send it to Dog and
Dog was like, Yo, this is something fresh, it is
something new, And then went back to Jeff Giddy and
got another track, which is kill Shot. So kill Shot
and Third Shift was produced by Jeff.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Giddy South Ben.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Absolutely, I'm not if I leave it's not gonna be anywhere.
I'm not going to LA. I'm not going to New York.
Miami is my weak spot. That's my weak spot.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Is it good because he probably you probably get grounded
when you go home. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Absolutely. I get to be around family, friends, like people
on tour, like they're my day ones, Like I don't.
I feel like I might lose myself if I go
and move somewhere where I have to be seen all
the time and red carpet all the time, and I
feel I just feel like I'm gonna lose myself. So
I go back home. I can come to New York,
(38:17):
come kick it for the weekend, come see y'all, and
then I'm back home. I'm right back home because my
son is there. He goes to a great school there,
and I just, you know, I like being with my son,
like chilling being at home, and if I need anything
or something goes wrong, I'm right there where I need
to be.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So to final questions, how did your mom feel about Mama?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
She loved it. She loves it because we played it
in the studio for a bunch of people not too
long ago. I think that was maybe last month or
something like that, or maybe soon. I don't know time
is flying by, but we played it and she gets
teary eyed every time. And one of the people that
were in the studio she's like, oh my god, like
I love mama so much. It's just does your mom
(38:59):
know that you you know, you made this record. I
was like, she's sitting right behind you, and she goes, oh,
you know, so, yeah, the mama. I really cannot wait
to put that record out. I cannot wait because I
love the record a lot. And I actually did that
when Snoop's mom passed. Wow, So when the Stoops mom
passed INSPI you to rate that exactly. So when Snoopy
had the day after Snoop's mom passed, he was in
(39:20):
the studio and I was just like, I got my boy.
I got him and I went in there and I
just did it. And then I was like, yeah, I
want you to hear something, and I played it for
him and he just, you.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Know, broke down. It made you appreciate your mom still.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, So you know, I just think it's
a great record. I can't wait to drop it.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
And that's one of the reasons you probably don't want
to leaves out.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Ben Ever, I don't know. I just feel comfortable there people,
you know, like everybody knows me, I know them. Nobody
really messes with me there. You know, nobody's messed up
any of my cars yet, so that's great. So I'm
pretty good. I'm happy there, you know as of right now.
And it's really cheap to live.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's living in the por what.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Cost of living is very important. So you know, you
go do all this and then just go back home
and chill. Come on, you know what you want to
hear down, what you want to hear. Well, she brought
up third shift, third shift, so might as well play
third shift, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Well, October Nights comes out this Friday, and we appreciate
you for joining NUK. You thank you, appreciate it, and
let's get into it. It's October London. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
The Breakfast Club
Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Morning, Everybody's d j Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, the guy
we are the Breakfast Club just is on maternity leave.
So Laura La Rose is filling in. And we got
our niece with us today, Nyla.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Big Nyla.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
All right, And we got a special guest in the building.
We have October London.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome brother. Good morning, sir, Good morning. How do you feeling.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I feel good? Feel good?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man. Is it hard to put on the double Vestitude
and tie ensemble in.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The morning, Not at all. I actually love it. Fresh
look very fresh, Yeah for sure. Sometimes I sleeping on
the bus.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Now you're signed to death row Yeah with Snoop.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, now talk about how you got the deal and
how he heard you and how that all came together.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't know, yeaheah. So I was actually on my
way to graduating truck driving school truck and school truck
and school. No, I quit right before some times. Yeah,
I was a.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Lot of trucks. I just don't like how they drive.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, it's a lot to it. But I was about
to I didn't. I didn't do it because I end
up linking up with Jazzy Fay. I ended up, you know,
linking up with him through a friend of a friend,
and I got his number and I text him like, Yo,
I got these records, you know, blah blah blah blah.
But I was sending them records. They were rap records,
their records for future, their records for all these other artists.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
You were producing.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, yeah, I was producing, you know. I was writing
them all. Oh yeah, yeah, putting hooks on him. And
I happened to just kind of sneak in one of
my songs that I did call color Blind that had
that kind of Marvin lane, and I sent it to him.
I just waited, and he hit me back and was like, Yo,
you got some you got some heat, you know, linking
(01:41):
up with somebody. He didn't tell me who it was.
He was like, I'm not gonna tell you what it
is or anything like that, but I'm looking over with somebody,
like really important legend in the game. I might play
it for him. I was like, oh, awesome, cool, Yeah, yeah,
you know, it's I've been through the Ringer, you know,
so I'm like, all right, cool, whatever, whatever, you know.
So I kept going back to school all that kind
of stuff as far as trucking and and come. But
we kept, you know, conversation on and off. So that
(02:03):
was like that was like December when I got to
talking to him first. So fast forward to about February
and he hit me up and he was like, yo,
you remember I told you I was gonna play your
records for someone. I was like yeah. He was like,
I'm gonna have him call you or we're gonna call
you together and you can talk to him and he can,
you know, tell you what's up. I was like, all right, cool,
this was twenty sixteen now, yeah, yeap to sixteen. And
(02:26):
the night before the Super Bowl he hit me up
and was like, yo, I got that person online. Hold
on a second, and he was with him and he
was like, yeoh it's the big homie Snoop dog Man.
I'm a big fan. I was like, oh, how did
you feel? I honestly, I was like this, this has
got to be a joke. I'm like, you know, at
that point, I'm like, nah, this can't be real. And
(02:47):
yeah it was. It was real. And he was like, Yo,
I'm gonna fly you out. Me and Jazzy gonna link
up talk about you know how we're gonna do this.
We're gonna do it together. Said okay, cool, And a
couple of days after that he was like, YOA, we're
gonna fly you out around March, so you know, got
there March sixteen, two thou and that was a wrap.
That's when I met him.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
But why why just throw away to CEDL dream? We
need a lot more shut up?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
But I mean he was right there.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He was, I was right there, but I don't know.
It just wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't for me at that.
I mean, I'm not gonna pass up opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'm asking I guess the question I'm really asking about
it just faith, Like, how does your discernment say, man,
even though I've been doing this for so long and
I'm right there, I'm gonna have faith in this situation
over here to pull come through.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I don't know. I believe in God. So I just
kind of was going off for him, and I really
was like, no, this is gonna be messed up. You
need to go stick with this due to nine to five.
It's just gonna be another obstacle. You're not gonna make
it the same thing I've been doing for years. At
this point, I've been oh, it's about to be on.
Oh now, it's not happening. It's about to be on always.
(03:49):
I've done that several times over. So at first I
was kind of skeptical. I was like, man, you're gonna
go out here, was gonna hear your music. It's gonna say, okay, cool,
You're gonna do one song. It's not gonna go nowhere.
I'm thinking a million things. And it just happened, you know,
it just we got there, me and him click. You know,
me and him both are libras. So we did one song.
(04:10):
He played one beat. He's like, yo, I want you
to hear this track. He played it got it's called
top Down. I think it's out still. And he played
that record and I instantly started, you know, writing to it,
and I had a hook really quick, and he was like, damn, okay,
all right. He's like going to the studio and you know,
record it, went in there, recorded it, he put his
verse on there. He's like, all right, let me do
(04:32):
something else. Put it another beat and I did that
one really quick and he was like, okay, So you
got a little work ethic and then me and him
for the next six months, maybe three to six months,
just back and forth working at it. Chose like work
ethic because he was like, okay, you you're for real,
You're free.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
How did your family feel about you being like, oh, okay,
I was this close, but I'm gonna just go over
here and do this thing because they've been riding aways
with you, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, they've been riding and raised with me for a
long time. But they've been really supportive. Family friends, everybody's
been supportive. I don't know how many times I've all
my boy Jamie, but.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
They in the business. Though.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Your mom's a singer of your dad.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
My dad was. My dad was in the business. Yeah,
my dad was in the business. He toured and you know,
to with Earth Wind and Fire and all that probably
opening up for him something like that, but it never
really reached this level. So he's a static gotcha.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So that's where your soul for like, your household was
full of music.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Absolutely, I hear it all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah. I grew up on before even listening to even rapper,
even Snooper any thing. I was listening to Earth Wind
and Fire. I was listening to confunction. I was just
not you know, so many artists, Frankie Beverly rest in peace.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
So I've been listening to old school for a while
and then I started listening to jazz and I started
getting into that more, a little bit of Miles Davis.
So as far as music goes, I'm all.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Across the board.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
Now where were you before you got the call to
go to LA Because how does the truck driver connect
with Jassey fay Well?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I mean, you know, it was just because my boy
knew somebody that knew something. It was. It was that
whole you gotta know somebody kind of aspect to it. So,
you know, my boy DeMarco Black called me and was like, Yo,
come over to the house. I got this contact. I
was like, all right, Cool. I was like, man, I
really don't want to do this. Man, I'm doing this.
I'm about to do this nine to five things. Man,
I'm tired. I don't want to you know. I went
(06:07):
over there. I was like, okay, cool, let's let's make
this call. And then we ended up making a call
in it. It just worked out.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Were you doing all of this in Indiana or did
you like venture out to another.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, I was doing all this in South Bend, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, South Bend, Indiana, that's where Mayor Pete used to
be used to be.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's right. Yeah, yeah, he gave me a proclamation before
he dipped out office.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
What kind of time today? That must be like a
progressive time if they like the first well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Know if he's the first game man. He had to
be the first game man of South Bend.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Right, yeah, I mean it's up. Yeah, you have Notre Dame.
I live right across street from Notre Dame, so yeah,
so you have that. But yeah, it's a college town.
It's you know, it's not too small and it's not
it's not a big town at all.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But yeah, he gave you what the key to the city.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
No, no, he gave me the option. He said, either
I can give you the key to the city, because
he had heard Colorblind and saw where I was going
with it. And it's not South Bend. It's definitely not
musically inclined at all. It's more sports. It's Notre Dame
or it's Colt so it's all that kind of stuff.
So he was like, you can either a Keida city,
you can have the proclamation. I was like, okay, well
was the key to the city even open up? But it's like,
you know nothing, but you could have this proclamation and
(07:04):
I was like yeah, yeah. I was like, well, I
mean I knew, but I was just like I was
kind of being you know, I was joking, joking like yeah,
what door is? Like what is this? Are you know
what am I getting out for this? And he was
like no, it's just you know. I was like no.
I was like, no, I'm good. I was like, what's proclamatic?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, just let it just go?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
A great dude piece a gret dude.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah yeah, no, No, he's good. He's good. So it
was like the proclamation you have your own day and
they have to celebrate you for the rest of your
life on this day. And I was like, I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Now. You signed to death Row?
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Was were you nervous to sign the death or because
this was the relaunch of death Row and I'm sure,
you know, with with icons like pop and Snoop and
DPG and all that, I'm sure people were assuming the
first one was gonna be a rapper, right, a hardcore rapper.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But it was it was you. Was you nervous at all. Absolutely, yeah,
I just knew. I was in the room when he
was finishing the call, like deals done, okay cool. I
was like, bad, oh, this is gonna be dope for you, man,
you know, gonna find some dope wrapper out of la
or somewhere like that. And he was like, no, no, no,
it's gonna be you. I'm like, what, like that don't
even make sense. This is a gangst the rap label.
(08:10):
Like I thought we was doing this other thing. He
was like, no, no, no, You're gonna be the flagship for
death Row. I been to learn how to crip. Well
yeah like that really you know, I'm working on it,
but I'm just like, man, I don't know if that's
gonna work out, but it's snoop. You kind of roll
with that and it worked out. It was just we're like,
we're gonna put out this R and B album. Whatever
(08:30):
this R and B album is gonna be. We didn't
figure out what it was. He knows I'm a multi
genre artist, so he's like, we're gonna figure it out
along the way, but you're gonna be the first person
that we put out.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
And I was then your death Row like legacy like
Doctor Dre or Sugar like commented on your work.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Uh yeah, Doctor Dre has for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I've
been in the studio with doctor Dre several times. I'm
actually on the new uh drean Snoop album that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
This year Missionary.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, missionary crazy title. I love it. I love it.
So I've I've been able to hear that whole album
in full. That album sounds incredible, by the way, so
shout out to Dreams.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So on that level, is it cause you know, a
lot of expectation Dre and Snoop. He's saying is to
follow up the doggy starts, a lot of expectation.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It meets the mark.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, it hits the mark definitely. So you know, Dre
Dre definitely loves my music. I've played the other stuff too,
but he really loves And even that track that I'm
on is very Marvin Gay esque because he you know,
he loves Marvel.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Now I'm being nosy. Is the project cohesives? Like is
there a message with a missionary or like I.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Don't want to give too much? Yeah, I don't want
to give too much. I don't want to you know,
I don't need Drake calling me. I do not need that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
What happened with the Marvin Gate wasn't Dre doing the
mark what they were doing a Marvin Gaatee movie and
he was doing the soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Were you involved in that?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I heard. I heard that there
was a soundtrack or something like that, or a movie,
but I don't know where it was going. And I
think I was going to be a part of that.
But I haven't really heard anything on this. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
When you put out the Rebirth of Marvin, I thought
you was a bug.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know I saw it.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I saw it because I felt like you were putting
too much pressure on yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Because when you compare yourself the mythical I ghosts like Marvin,
that's an impossible bar to reach.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So what was your mindset?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
I know you put that up. I didn't that album
was not supposed to come out. That album was that.
I wasn't trying to be Marvin, not trying to fill
his shoes. I'm not trying to do any of that.
As not what I was trying to do. Like I said,
I'm a multi genre artists. I just go off of vibes.
So if I'm feeling, oh today, I'm gonna do pop today,
then I'm gonna go in the studio probably knock out
(10:25):
a whole pop album real quick, and I'm gonna go
ahead and set the sidecause that's what I'm feeling. So
I go off of feeling, you know, feeling the music
and what I'm you know, what I'm feeling at that time.
So I was in the studio and if you've been
to Snoops compound, he plays music twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week through the hallways. And at that time,
I was in the studio just going through stuff and
trying to figure out what track I was gonna do next,
(10:46):
and Marvin played like three four times, so then instantly
in my head, I'm already in that zone. So I
was like, okay, cool. Then Snoop sent over a track
and I was like, oh, this is dope. And then
I started doing it and I was like, oh, it
sounds a little bit Marvin, but I'm just gonna keep
doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Liked it so much, so I was like, I'm gonna
do another track, and then Snoop came in and was like, Yo,
this is really dope, let me know when you you know,
finished with it, because he knows I like to work
and like, I like to work in spurts, so I
don't do just one track and go to next. Like
I'm like, well, if I've done too I might as
well do eight more and make it an album. And
I just put it up. I have a bunch of records,
just put up. I finished the record in like a week.
(11:26):
Rebirth of Marvin was done in the week. I pretty
much freestyled the whole thing as far as freestyle, and
I know it's different, but it's like going up to
the mic and just kind of saying what I feel.
Did that Like Back to Your Place was done in
an hour. My Holland Drive was done the hour. Both
of those went number one. So that's how I do
all of my music. So I put it away. I
was like, all right, that was fun. I was in
that Marvin Lane Gray, let me put aside. Now let
(11:46):
me get on this Bryce and Tiller lane real quick,
because that's what I wanted to put out. That's what
I thought Dog wanted me to do, and that's not
what happened. Dog came in and it was like, what
you're doing I'm like, oh, I'm just putting it up.
I'm gonna start on this. He was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
we're putting this out. I was like, no, nobody want
to hear old School right now. It's like, trust me,
this is the lane is open. Nobody's doing it right now.
(12:07):
Let's just do it all right. Cool, but it sounds
a little bit like Marvin. It's like, no, I don't
worry about that. I'm like, they're gonna chew me. They're
gonna chew my ass up. So you know, we started
sitting with the album Back to Your We put it out.
We didn't even pick a single. We let the audience pick.
They picked back to Your Place. They picked mahaland drive.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know many girls. I know that I love back
to You for real?
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Yes, that song is I didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I forget what I was playing, but I think it
might have been made me on Instagram.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
But that song.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I was like, what is this song? I was telling
Envy that like that is how I found you because
of the song. I didn't know who you were. And
then I heard the song and I was like, who
is october Line? I started googling I'm like, death Row,
like it just.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
All of it.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
Yeah, but it made me I was so interested.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
I'm like, Okay, if death Row is going to go
for this type of sonic sound, he has to be talented.
So it made me want to listen to more because
it just was completely different than what I thought it
would be. But I know that, like some people did
have things to say, but a lot of people love
the music because it sounds good.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
But I know that.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
La gret Ziola gay who's Marvin Gaye's sister, she had
made some comments that she liked the music, but she
did say that she was just confused why you would
want to sound like another person and not do original songs?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Like what do you get out of it? Did you
get to have a conversation with.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Her family or yeah? I did?
Speaker 6 (13:20):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
She was seemed like she was mad as hell at me,
which I knew that was going to happen. I was like,
you know, and Dog wanted the name it Rebirth, and
Marvin I did not. I was like, let's just call
it the Rebirth. I tried to push towards that, but
you know, I'm following. You know. At this point, I'm like, Okay,
all right. You know, Dog has a plan. He's gonna
go with it. He's been right this whole time. I've
been with him for a long time. I know him.
(13:42):
Let's just do that. And we called it Rebirth and
Marvin because that's what he wanted to Tyler. And then yeah,
she was not happy about that because she was like, yeah,
you can sing, that's great, but you sound like my
brother little bit and it's freaking me out. And I
was like, that's cool. I just wish she at that
point she didn't go, you know, on wax and say
also stuff. Yeah, and just I wish he just would
(14:04):
have called me or called Dog or somebody like that,
because then people got on her that love my music,
that love back to your place. So then they attacked her,
and I'm like, we have to stop this. But then,
you know, we end up getting on a call together,
me and a few of the other family members and
they were like, we completely support you. We understand now
that you're not trying to be Marvin. You don't even
want to fill his shoes or anything like that. You
(14:26):
were just in a vibe and I was like, that's
what I've been trying to tell everyone, Like that's not me.
I was just feeling something for.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
People that never heard you, right, Because we're introducing you
to some people that might not never heard you listening,
some people might think that you are mimicking artist, right
because you just said I was in a Marvin zone
and then I was in a Brison zone.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, So even on the new album, it's like old
sounds like.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Kelly a little bit. So who is O Tooler London?
And where what does the sound come from? Because when
I when I first heard I thought it was like, well,
that's his voice. He can't change his voice. It sounds
like Marvin. He sounds like Marvin. But who is I
toober London?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Then?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, October one is okay. So this new album, ober Nights,
it's more of a transitional album. It's getting out of
that lane. I'm finally being like, okay, guys, let's get
away from this. When it's when you start the album,
you know you have uh you have touch on me
and all those records like that, and then yeah, like
you said, r Kelly's been you know, my top number
one artist because I mean the writing style, I mean,
(15:18):
come on, it's Kels. Then once you get towards the
end of the album where you have a big record
called time, that's me, you know what I'm saying, Like
those records, that's me, like enjoying myself. And then the
third album obviously when I whenever I do that, then
you're gonna get all of me. But right now, it's
just kind of showing people that I can do these
waves and I know that we're missing this sound. I'm
(15:40):
not necessarily taken from everybody. I just have been listening
to everybody so much like Kels and Ronald Esey and
all that. I just take this a little bit, put
it here, but I don't really take from them. I'm
just taking that vibe to give you that vibe, give
you that love and that pain, and that that you
know what you feel, what we've been feeling for years.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
So this is a transition project. I still feel like
sonically production kind of sounds cohesive. Do you have like
a built in team that you worked with or did
you decide to work with new people for this project?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I mean usually usually, and Snoop will tell you usually,
I do everything myself, Like I I write, I produce
a mix, I master, I engineer myself because I'm like,
I gotta get it done right now, Like I feel
something I need to get done. I don't want to
sit here and be like, oh, hey, engineer, what's up.
I can be there at four o'clock. No, no, no, no,
I gotta feel this now. So I learned to do
(16:32):
all this stuff on my own, so I do on
this album on October Nights. I teamed up with producers
like Jeff Giddy, Pooh Bear. I got with baby Face,
you know, obviously Snoop executive produced the album as well,
and I got with my my homie Superfly. Also, everybody
knows Superfly, so yeah, legend in the game. So he
(16:53):
came through put his spin on it as well, and
it came out really It came out really well because
we had kind of went through a thing where I submitted,
like this album. You're like, all right, let's change this,
let's put horns here, let's do this, and it just
turned out so beautiful. I love it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I would love to know what the Baby Fath sessions
were like, because I know Babyfaith, he didn't want you
to come in on nothing except for you.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I'm sure what was that energy?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Like? It was good energy, man. We pulled up. He
was just ready to get down to business. Like immediately,
there was no oh, let's kick it in, chill, let's eat,
let's have a little breakfast and all. He was just
like are you ready. I'm like, yeah, let's go in there.
And we did the session. We knocked it out. It
didn't even take all day. Really, he went to writing it.
I just let him do his thing, because you know,
you're in front of a legend. I'm not trying to
(17:38):
be like, well, I do this, and I'm not about
to do I'm about to sit here and what you
need me to do coaching, Like yeah, I mean yeah,
he did man in the lab. We actually, yeah, it
was a lot. I'm not going okay, I can't. I
can't hold it was a lot. And he knows it
was a lot because I was like, oh, it was
funny because we were doing the takes. He was like, oh, okay,
let's do this first take of this and I do
the line. I was like, card, let's do it again,
(18:00):
do the line. I'm like, okay, that second one was perfect.
We're good. That's what I want to say. All Right,
we're good, let's go. Let's go to the next sign.
He's like, nah, let's do it again and again. I'm like, okay,
all right, okay, cool, I will do it. And he's like,
all right, cool, now you're ready to really do it.
I'm like, I thought we were just doing it. I
thought that was it. He was like, oh no, I
wasn't recording at all. I was just making sure you
(18:20):
were on top of it.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I thought the classes get made though.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I'm like, okay, cool. So see, and that's I'm not
used to that. I'm used to, Like I said, back
to your place one take boom the first lign, it
was just boom, boom, boom. I just make it quickly.
And even when I told him that, he was like, yeah, no, impossible, Like, no,
that's how I do my record. So he was like, oh,
so I'm really at this point, you know, like putting
you through it. I was like, yeah, but it's cool, man,
(18:44):
it's all good. I'm ready to learn.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's all good.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Did you ever think in your life did you probably
signed the Ovial or did you ever want to sign
an Ovial?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah? I did absolutely. I'm a fan of Drake, so yeah,
I definitely wanted to. I remember having conversations with Snoop like, hey,
you know who he should go to? Man, who I
should do some records? Let me go over here and
go to Drake. He's like, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Yeah,
I'll call him all right? Cool? And then I wait
and Kendrick?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
All that up?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Man, Kendrick, Yeah, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, but
I like them both.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Why did you ask that?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah? So I wanted to be that, you know, I
was like, oh, October birthdays ten seventeen, this would be
perfect fit.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
But or Gucci.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Gucci is ten seven. Yeah, yeah that's right, that's right.
But Snoop is a great, great fit. Man. I just love,
I really love. I'm actually a happy artist. Like I
talked to so many artists that are just so unhappy
and depressed, and you know, it's like they have people
over their shoulders all the time, and that's not what
happens at Death Throw. Snooper's like, hey, how are you
feeling this week? I'm feeling like a pop record? All right, cool,
(19:49):
call me when it's done. That's it. There's no stress
about it. There's no ah, we shouldn't do that. Let's
do it.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
Being someone who has done it all for so long, like,
for yourself, what was the transition like having to take
the lead of like other people with your vision?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Tough, very because I've just been, like I said, I've
been doing this for so long, learning, doing this engineering thing,
doing the mixing, doing all this stuff, and I'm just like, Okay,
I can get this done. Because I look at a
lot of artists, it's like, oh yeah, I really want
Shah Day to drop another album. It's like, oh, eight
years later, I don't like it doesn't in my head
(20:30):
because I just taught myself. In my head, I'm like
to take that much. So and now look at other
arts too, and I'm like, well, you got all the resources,
you have everybody's number in your phone. Why isn't your
album getting done quicker? Like why aren't you? Maybe they're
not in the zone. Maybe they're getting pressured. I don't know.
I just like I said, I'm a happy artist, so
I'm not pressured by anything. I'm financially stable, like I'm good,
(20:56):
so I can go in the studio right now and
be like okay, cool, you need all right, I'll work
on the third album right now, or I work on
a country record, I work on a pot whatever. Because
he that's what helps me make great R and B
is by switching genres, taking a break because I don't
want to I don't want to be Marvin, So let
me not get too heavy in that back. Let me
go over here to the country real quick and write
this real quick and just take a break and then
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go over here to something else.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I was tour with Maxwell and Jazmine.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Sellivan amazing, amazing, two great artists. Me and Maxweld close. Man,
He's just a really great dude, like he's been making
sure everybody's taking care of and just been amazing. The
crowd is just absolutely just I'm like, I'm in awe
of they saying word for word even my stuff, you know,
and me opening up for them like I did my
(21:41):
first tour in January, which sold out majority of the
tour and they were singing it. Then I was like,
I don't know if they're gonna do it this time.
They're doing it this time as well.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
By that you said, even by stuff like yeah no,
because I.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Just in my head, I'm just still this dude in Soubn,
Indiana that's trying to make it. I'm still feel like
I'm going to the studio just trying to Oh, man,
I really hope they like it. I still have.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That slighting poster syndrome.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, I'm just like, I'm like, man, there's there's no way.
I don't think they're gonna like this. I don't snoops
heard me say. I don't think they're gonna like this
one hundred times over. I did not think they're gonna
like Rebirth of Marvin. I didn't think they're going to
back to your place. What I was like, No, there's
no way. I was like this ain't this ain't hot
right now? And they love it. And I'm like, okay,
So that's why I like letting the people decide.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
But you let the real You let the You were
kind of letting the trends of R and B guide
you as opposed to what traditional R and B is,
because you make to me traditional R and B. But
you thought, because of the way people make R and
B now, they don't want to hear this tradition exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
You wanted to redo bitches ain't shit but holding trick
R and B right, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Yeah, actually, yeah, I think that was gonna send you.
I'm gonna send you.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Something through Like when I heard it, I was like,
who is I thought you? Honestly, I thought you were
like an older guy, like somebody. I really was so surprised.
I was like, what is this song? And then I
just kept hearing it. So to hear that you didn't
even think that we were gonna like it, I'm like,
that is insane. I'm so happy that you didn't get
in your own way.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
No, no, no, definitely would like to add that I
went to that show at Barclay's. The mic was on,
and that was really impressive too, because a lot of
people vocally live don't hit like the actual record.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Now the MIC's were on, man Max is on,
Japmanin's Own Mind is on, And I make sure I
let people know like I'm not I'm not an auto
tuned artist. I have my face. When T Pain came out,
I was everything. I have a list of albums in
my heart just so T Pain. It's ridiculous, you know
what I'm saying. So I was like, oh, this is it, Boom,
(23:55):
I'm gonna do this, you know, I'm gonna get on
like doing this. And it's that time where like ten
times over, like oh okay, Nope, that didn't work out.
Oh I got this meeting with nevermind that didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
So this is really random. But speaking of like trying
to like things not working out, you were on Empire.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I was on Empire. Yeah, and then you were so
you did.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I've read about it. You were doing really well. They
were talking about making you a bigger character Empire.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, and all the Jesse Jesse smallest stuff happened.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
That we didn't know. When you walked in, I'm like,
I know.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
He was pissed that one is so perfect for you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Come home man, No, I mean yeah, I thought it was.
That was my first time doing any type of acting.
Snoop was like, yeah, I'm gonna we're gonna add you
to Empire. Like, no, I can't act. He was like,
yeah you can't. No, I can't, man, that's not my lane.
I'm just come on man. And I went on, come
on man, and I went on there and and did it,
and the director was like, how long you've been acting?
(25:00):
I was like today. He was like, I think we
should sit down and talk. I'm like, okay, this is
the thing. I still think I'm dreaming. So I'm like
there's no way even being on here to breakfast. I've
been watching y'all for a long time. It's like like
just as I was sitting in the background, was just like, damn,
this is really happening. So that's how I kind of
felt on Empire. So then when Jesse mess it up
(25:22):
for me, as soon as as soon as I turned
on the news, I'm like sh I was like, come on,
come on, Maine, come on, Mane, don't do me like that, skinny.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
It's interesting, right, because these are the type of stories
when you really really take off, everybody's be like damn,
this guy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Came out and know it. But you've been with snoopsin.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Just doing background stuff like doing you know, when I
first got with him, He's like, Yo, I'm about to
go on tour. Once you come on tour with me.
So me doing a small crowd, it didn't start off
that way. It started off with fifty thousand people. So
now when I'm doing this just been at Max. Max
is like you're really comfortable and says I'm like yeah,
I'm like small crowds make me anxious. Really small crowds.
(26:11):
If I'm in a crowd of like a hundred. I'm like,
I can hear everybody's thoughts like that, nigg ain't hitting
a note like that, and you know, like he sound
a little dry today, you know. So doing that kind
of just molded me to be a better performer. So
doing that and then now coming on this tour where
it's you know, tens twenty thousand people, it just feels
(26:33):
feels normal to me. And being with Snoops in twenty sixteen,
I've just been doing that, been touring with him several
times overseas everything and just doing like the all the
stuff with him and Martha Stewart, Like I did the
song for the Him and Mont Stewart show, the Cooking
with Mark, you know, and I did that record and
then all his albums from twenty sixteen I've been on.
(26:55):
I've been doing backgrounds or I've been doing hooks. So
I've just been chilling and really caking up.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is October London.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Trust his own talent, not not not his ability to
I guess sound like others, but do you trust your
own Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I've been doing it for a while, so I know
exactly what I can do. I have so much stuff
in the hard drive that I can't wait to drop,
like it makes me anxious. Even being on the bus
this whole tour, I'm just listening to the records, and
everybody gets together and we listen to all the records
and we're just like, yo, this is really just the
starting point, Like they have no idea what's to come?
(27:31):
You know, can we play a record with.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I was gonna say, I know you're involved on the
Doggie Land for kids.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, talk to me about what do you what exactly
do you do?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, I've been so what I'm saying,
so you know, Snep's been looking out for a long time.
Snoop came in the studio one day or one night
and was like, Hey, what do you think about doing
a kids record? And I was like, yeah, that's fine,
whatever I can do that. I made one kid record.
He came back in the studio, let me hear what
you got played it. He was like, Joe, can you
(28:04):
do anohing like that? I was like, yeah, of course.
This time I called my son on FaceTime. My son's seven, uh,
and I was like, hey, I need you to add
some vocals to this, you know. He was like okay, Dad.
You know, And this time we did a record called
brush Brush, so we ended up doing that and Snoop
came in. He was like, who is the kid. I
(28:25):
was like, it's my son, said nephew. He was like, oh,
like okay, cool, I think we should do an album.
All right, cool, give me till tomorrow because I'm quick.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I'm like tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
Album.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Color when we came out in twenty sixteen. We
came out when I uh Me and Snoop came out
with Color Blind. I did eighteen songs in two or
three days. I got myself sick, and he was like,
all right, you need to go back to the hotel,
like because I was like, no, one shot, you get
one shot, and that was my one shot. I'm knocking
out eight to this, so I'm very I knock him
out really quick. So he was like okay, cool. So
(28:58):
I knocked out the album and then he called Claude
Brooks and he was like, Yo, I got an idea
for a show. Let's call it Doggie Lanb. And now
I'm I'm the co creator of Doggie Lanb. I am
the voice of Woolfie and I do the music that's dope.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You don't see this type of artist development, the more
you don't see people just like working with an artist
every step of the way, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And then most artists went it right away. Remember he
been seeing the twenty sixteen. Most arts would have left
the twenty seventeen. It was like, I ain't popping yet.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm gone, Yeah, you've seen the vision.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, I saw the vision. But Snooper tell you
I gave him a hard time too.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Absolutely, I mean, yeah, I get you.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
The artist that you see popping, it was like, yo,
that could have been that should have been me, Bryceon Tailler.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
I wouldn't say Bryceon Tailor. Brce Stilla came out of nowhere.
To me, I was like, oh, this is dope. I'm
actually a fan of Bryson Tailor. I don't know what
artists came up. I know one artist that made me
actually kind of pissed me off, to be honest, and
that was and that and I'll tell you the story.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Why.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So it's two thousand and four, who was popping? Who
just came out with just gotta make it, It's gotta
make tray all day. He got the braids, I got
the braids. Light skinned. I'm light skinned, and my boy
Travis looked at me and was like, damn, you don't
let this nigga eat you up like that, and he
just walked away. And ever since then, I've just Paul
definitely paused pause him on the side.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He should have paused the back door before with the key,
but keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah missed it, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
He missed it. So so at that point I was like, okay,
cool and made me competitive. So I'm super super competitive,
like I've been on I'm not gonna say the artists,
but I've been on different shows where you know, it's
several artists on this show, and they'll do certain things,
and I'll go in the back room and I'll put
on Michael Jordan's last dance and I'll sit there for
(30:51):
about a good thirty forty minutes watch that, and I
go out there and compete. Yep, everything's a competition. In
dark Snoop will consistently like it's not a competition, man,
you don't have to be like, you know, I be
so hardy and something like nah, you see the high
note he did, No, no, no, I can't let him live.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I love that. Though. How exhausting was it working with Tyres?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You know? Tyres is a is a great friend of mine.
He's a great d's a great guy, great existent at all.
He just he's passionate. He's just a passionate person. He
puts he literally wears his heart on his sleeve and
you got to give it to him.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Sure, But how exhausting was it working in the studio?
We all know him, like, like I just want to know,
like Bedroom Bully, how long did it take y'all to
make that record?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
That didn't take a day?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Not with him, I don't know how long it took him.
You know how long it took me. So he sent
he sent the record to me and was like, I
got this record. He called me, So, I got this record.
I think you'd be great on it. It's very secret garden.
I was like, okay, bad, just just send it. I
was in the lab already sent the beat and I
was like, yo, this is dope. And he had a
(31:59):
little bit of his vocal on it, and I was like, okay, cool.
So really I wanted him to do his vocals first
because the competitive part. And then I was like, no,
I don't worry about it. You know it's Tyree's I
ain't tripping you know, we brothers. I went in and
put my part on there, then he put his part
on there and that was it. But it took me,
you know, thirty minutes knocked that out. I don't know
how long it took him to get his knocked out,
(32:19):
but for me, it was it was nothing but bedroom
Billy is. And that's on the album too, it's on
his an min.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
When you do a song like that, do you feel
pressure to always deliver to a woman sexually?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Absolutely? Absolutely? I love cars and women period.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Did you guys make this record before after you almost
burned his house down?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That's just what I was after.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
This was after person.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
The person that almost burnt his house down is sitting
right behind. No.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, well this was the house in l a.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Uh No, Atlanta?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Atlanta is Atlanta?
Speaker 7 (32:53):
What happened, Bernard Hooka. That's the only way.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
You burn the house down now, right, Because you know,
we were listening to some music and we're all, you know, drinking,
except for Tyree because Tyres don't drink. And uh my
boy Jamie was listening to the music. He got hyped
up and he was just like, whoa, you know, this
is the records, gonna be crazy and he got up
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and he knocked it over. Nobody noticed that first, and
I turned. I looked, and I was like, I saw
security moving really fast. One of the security guys moving
really fast. He started patting on the floor, and I'm like,
what the hell is he doing? Stinky leg or something.
Don't know what the hell he's doing. And I was
just like, okay, cool, alright. I guess he's feeling the record.
And I look, I'm like, oh, oh, oh the rugs
on fire. His vultron rugs on fire. I was like,
oh nice. So he's trying to put that out, grabbing
(33:42):
the coals off the thing and all that, and Jamie
felt bad, and Tyrese gives him, gives him ship every time.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
What flavor was the hookah, damn it.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't even know. I don't know. It might have
been like mango buried cream or something, and.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
That y'ard almost brunt that house do mango burried?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh right, that is not a good way to go out. So,
you know, every every time tyree sees Jamie, he's like,
he can't come in my house, he can't come out. Yeah,
hes be a carver, but you know he lets me
in anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
So it's good not a song. Time did you have
wedding song in mind when you wrote that?
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Absolutely? Absolutely? So. Time actually is we are in twenty
twenty four, so that was done in eight, So what
do we It's fifteen fifteen, sixteen years in a game.
It's been sitting in my hard drive for fifteen sixteen years.
So that's an old song, old song that me and
my one of my best friends, Mike Letter out of Miami,
(34:39):
we did that record and yeah, I played it for
a dog. I think I played it maybe four or
five six times, and he remembers and then doesn't remember,
but he remembered. At this time, he was like, yeah,
we should put this on the album. And I loved
it because I've been waiting to put that album out
because it's just a beautiful ballad.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
You didn't do nothing to it. You just that's how
recording remixed.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, yeah, remix and we added, uh, we added some
organ to it. Superfly came in and added like little
little things to you know, a little splashes. But other
than that same record, when.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
You wrote that, in a way, what was your mind?
Is there somebody you wanted to marry or somebody you wanted.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Nah, I was a I was a sap man back
in eight so I was doing everything I possibly could.
You know I was doing. I was doing the most.
I ain't nothing wrong, like like a kind of like
you know, I was sucker. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (35:30):
What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Nothing wrong with it?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
But you know you would tell a woman stuff like that.
I want to spend the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh my god, I had poems and ship. Nothing's wrong
with it.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
You was texting the poems or you were, like mail them.
I feel that you would mail them.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I was, I was. I was.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Depending how old you are after era we come from,
We come from that.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know you go with me?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
No, maybe I just want.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
To know because.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
We always on line like we missed that, like the begging,
begging love you, we love you.
Speaker 7 (36:03):
You was doing it and you guys.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Back then. For some reason, I can't write a single
poem now.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I just buy what happened, No happening.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I got my heart broke and then got my heart
broken again.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
I didn't mean to laught.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It's all right, you just laughing pain.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Nobody to hear that because that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
In the white man. No, she's like the White Man.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Travis Travis Caleb Plant but your.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Life and so she's willing to meet in the middle.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That's but she went to Delaware State HBC.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Mm hmm, all right, you got more The sappiness makes
for great music.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
I mean you're trying to say, yea.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Even the record uh Eternity that got on the Color
Purple soundtrack, that was a fifteen sixteen year old record.
I did Eternity right after me and Mike did Eternity
right after Time.
Speaker 6 (37:07):
So Third Shift was a fresh, freshly done record. I
saw you just preview that.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Was that the.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Bridge or the hook that she was playing? Who was
in there conducting this?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
What for the whole record?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
For?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah? I went to Jeff Giddy and Jeff was like, Yo,
you want to record it here? I was like no,
I'm going home, and I flew back home to South Ben.
I recorded there and then send it to Dog and
Dog was like, Yo, this is something fresh, it is
something new, And then went back to Jeff Giddy and
got another track, which is kill Shot. So kill Shot
and Third Shift was produced by Jeff.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Giddy South Ben.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Absolutely, I'm not if I leave it's not gonna be anywhere.
I'm not going to LA. I'm not going to New York.
Miami is my weak spot. That's my weak spot.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Is it good because he probably you probably get grounded
when you go home. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Absolutely. I get to be around family, friends, like people
on tour, like they're my day ones, Like I don't.
I feel like I might lose myself if I go
and move somewhere where I have to be seen all
the time and red carpet all the time, and I
feel I just feel like I'm gonna lose myself. So
I go back home. I can come to New York,
(38:17):
come kick it for the weekend, come see y'all, and
then I'm back home. I'm right back home because my
son is there. He goes to a great school there,
and I just, you know, I like being with my son,
like chilling being at home, and if I need anything
or something goes wrong, I'm right there where I need
to be.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So to final questions, how did your mom feel about Mama?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
She loved it. She loves it because we played it
in the studio for a bunch of people not too
long ago. I think that was maybe last month or
something like that, or maybe soon. I don't know time
is flying by, but we played it and she gets
teary eyed every time. And one of the people that
were in the studio she's like, oh my god, like
I love mama so much. It's just does your mom
(38:59):
know that you you know, you made this record. I
was like, she's sitting right behind you, and she goes, oh,
you know, so, yeah, the mama. I really cannot wait
to put that record out. I cannot wait because I
love the record a lot. And I actually did that
when Snoop's mom passed. Wow, So when the Stoops mom
passed INSPI you to rate that exactly. So when Snoopy
had the day after Snoop's mom passed, he was in
(39:20):
the studio and I was just like, I got my boy.
I got him and I went in there and I
just did it. And then I was like, yeah, I
want you to hear something, and I played it for
him and he just, you.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Know, broke down. It made you appreciate your mom still.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, So you know, I just think it's
a great record. I can't wait to drop it.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
And that's one of the reasons you probably don't want
to leaves out.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Ben Ever, I don't know. I just feel comfortable there people,
you know, like everybody knows me, I know them. Nobody
really messes with me there. You know, nobody's messed up
any of my cars yet, so that's great. So I'm
pretty good. I'm happy there, you know as of right now.
And it's really cheap to live.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's living in the por what.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Cost of living is very important. So you know, you
go do all this and then just go back home
and chill. Come on, you know what you want to
hear down, what you want to hear. Well, she brought
up third shift, third shift, so might as well play
third shift, all right.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Well, October Nights comes out this Friday, and we appreciate
you for joining NUK. You thank you, appreciate it, and
let's get into it. It's October London. It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
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