INTERVIEW: T.I. & Young Dro Speak On Sobriety, 'OMG Girlz' Lawsuit Victory, New Music + More

The Breakfast Club Sits Down With T.I. & Young Dro To Discuss Sobriety, 'OMG Girlz' Lawsuit Victory, And New Music. Listen For More! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Everybody is the j n V. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. Justice on maternity leave. So
long the roaster is filling in. And we got some
special guests joining us this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yes, indeed, yes, t I and.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
The brother Young Joe Welcome, fellas. Are you feeling this morning? Man?

Speaker 5 (00:22):
Blessed?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
We know we know.

Speaker 5 (00:26):
Almost.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Congratulations man, thank you?

Speaker 5 (00:29):
How does it feel.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
I heard that you're not really taking any shows anymore,
but that.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
JO got to be the first thing. Congratulations, Thank you.
I appreciate you because that's how it show. That's actually
our show, our show show you jingle balls talking about, Yeah,
that is my show, show that we're doing in Atlanta.
But yeah, I'm excited about it, man. You know it's

(00:54):
gonna be a dope show. Uh. And and you know
I still have other performances, stuff that I agreed to
when I felt like I needed to do it with
PSC or just yeah, and that's still you know what
I'm saying, the PSC. You know what I'm saying, they
probably they gonna get like probably three four you know
what I'm saying, three four of them like, come on,
y'all do it, you know, like one air quarter. I'm

(01:16):
just joking, man, I'm just joking, but I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Doing this.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Don't worry about it, man, putting the room on the
yacht man.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
I was always told retirement it's not an age, it's
an income. And we heard you say that the solo
Ib'm gonna be your life. You just said you said
it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Be your last show.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
That that that don't mean that I'm not gonna still work,
you know what I'm saying, Like, there are other things
that I'm doing. I'm still writing, producing, directing films, and
I'm working on my third one. We're about to start. Actually,
by the time this is I'll probably be feeling. It's
called Relationships of Romantic Comedy based in Atlanta. Longland is
looking for love and Atlanta good luck. And I'm excited

(02:07):
about that. It's the first film that I'd be directed
and starring in myself. Terrence J. Brittany hall Uh, Dominique Perry.
You know what I'm saying. So you know we got
you know what I'm saying. Other things that we're doing.
I'm probably finela shoot my special end of the year but.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You know for that that movie, we have somebody that
might want to be a part of it.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Trying to find some love in the world. Was not
me because I'm married.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
A reality show, that wouldn't be a movie.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Who are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
This young lady over.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
Here, always got it, always alone in her room.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Joke.

Speaker 8 (02:49):
You've been sitting on that one because I ain't even
heard that one. Think I'm looking in Atlanta though?

Speaker 5 (02:59):
What what?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Discrimination you know, I just I sound like what Trump
you said about the Trump I have.

Speaker 8 (03:07):
Some homegirls down there that have had really bad experiences.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
It's a little really bad experience.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
Yeah, it's a little trauma in the group chats. So
I think I'm.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
You do it. You do a track with the energy?

Speaker 7 (03:22):
You just tell you that all the time.

Speaker 9 (03:24):
First of all, I'm not talking about me and about.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
The homegrowns, but you're talking about how that how their
experiences are influencing your decision.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Sure, I think you're talking about you.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Essentially, I attract great things you do. Why would that
change if you took it if you took that same
energy to Atlanta.

Speaker 8 (03:44):
Well, from what I hear in Atlanta, I think the
ratio makes it were like objection.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
Here's I just hear a lot about that.

Speaker 8 (03:54):
Ratio, and how kind of you know, the guy's got
a lot going on, You got, it's a lot down there,
and you know, everybody wants to deal with successful and
you know these amazing black men. But if they they
and fifty people and don't want to settle with one
like that, they that they never gets nowhere long as.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
You've got the whipp appeel.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Oh my goodness. We don't think we can say that.
We can't we say we can't say that baby faith.

Speaker 9 (04:18):
That's baby face.

Speaker 10 (04:19):
Yeah we have whipping peel my baby face ring.

Speaker 9 (04:32):
Yeah, not that funny.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Yeah, but I think that I think I think that
I think it's somebody down there. And because it's probably
a dude down there right now, like man, all these
girls want the same thing. Yeah, you know, everybody want
to be seen with somebody in Cardier glasses and happened
out and mayback.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
What's wrong with Cardier class.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, but
you know, but that's the kind of guy she's saying.
She's trying to avoid.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
She's trying to avoid me a little.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
It it's just I think it's it's just certain. I
think the lifestyle in Atlanta, although it's really really fun,
you have a good time, I think that kind of
plays a part of it too.

Speaker 9 (05:09):
It's like eventually we get.

Speaker 8 (05:11):
Like and I'm outside, go outside, I'm around, but you
get tired of like every single time we go out,
we got to be in the club, we gotta be
with the hookah and.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Every weekend.

Speaker 8 (05:23):
No I don't not every weekend if I'm dating somebody,
I want to do things other than that. And a
lot of the people that this is another conversation in
the group chat. A lot of my homegirls feel like
in Atlanta, that's all the days are. And it's fun
in the beginning, but then you want to really dig.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
But you got to always go to the club and
do hookah.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Now you can go to ether Ridge, you can go
on banks.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Around.

Speaker 8 (05:44):
The wrong guys, the people that's coming through our chat,
it's like they just want to go to Cheetah.

Speaker 9 (05:51):
They want to be they want to be out like
they that's it.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I mean, well, yeah, I think like again, man, you
you you attract the energy that you distribute. So if
that's what they're if that's what they attracted, they should
probably look within, you know what I'm saying, and can
let them be the change on. Stop going to chair,
you stop meeting people. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (06:12):
Good food over there.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
See what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
They got good wine.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
Noo.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
You took a step back, man, You took a step back.
You put out I was just twenty fifteen.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Took a step back. Yeah. I mean, like as far
as putting.

Speaker 11 (06:30):
Out albums, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (06:34):
Well, over that, over that period of time, it's I
still put out like little pieces of projects and things
that like that of that nature, you know what I mean.
I think we did after that we had TikTok, yeah
saying put out TikTok and and then I went into
rehab and stuff like that. So I've been rebuilding myself

(06:56):
as a person absolute, you know what I mean. I
felt like I should digging to the inside of me
and find out what what I have to give to
the public.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
You don't have to use that voice.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I had to find the good in myself.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
I think the world.

Speaker 11 (07:22):
I think it's good in all people. You feel what
I'm saying, And if nobody can find the good and
you are see the good in you. I think you
should give him a hug and tell them life is
difficult for the blind.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
You know he had the d D. You know what
I'm saying, What did.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You decide or what got you into rehab? When was
that that calling and said this is the time, Because
I mean for my whole career, I would see Droe
in the club with me every week and drow is
performing drows at every stage.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You were you were the epiting me of an artist
because you were out.

Speaker 11 (07:53):
Well, I got tired like the same things like you
know what I mean, like over and over again get
high saying I'm not getting high, you know, repeating.

Speaker 12 (08:05):
Repeating, man struggled, the man talking about it real overcoming
the real struggling man of that.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Because your crew doesn't do nothing but laugh.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Like even it's down to I was like, welcome to
like nobody takes it serious.

Speaker 11 (08:25):
But you know what, he's got him bad hell got
He's telling the truth, like Noah, But you know, you
know it was more than that. It was actually overdose.
You feel what I'm saying. And I used the I
used this platform with with the thank God to.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
The background. That's crazy.

Speaker 11 (08:55):
He's a mechanic, mechanics always laughing.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Stead there's a dastard individuals overdose, Yo, I did you
know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (09:07):
And all of all of these things happened the overdose.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
My daughter was on drugs, and you know, career wise,
I was aware. I wasn't what's up with you? Are you?

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Finnah?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Get slapped?

Speaker 11 (09:23):
I mean we're cool, but I slapped at you by laughing.
Oh man, I'm just I'm just telling you cool. What
you want to do, what you want to do? Him
take you out of the sober drove.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
He listen, Hey, listen, hey, both of y'all.

Speaker 13 (09:42):
Y'all, everybody came in and motherfucker with me. Hey look,
everybody came in the motherfucker with me. Hey look, everybody
came in the motherfuck with me. Hey look remember who
you came in, and remember what we're doing here. Man,
come on, man, they get this ship together.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Bro. All right, all right, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
First of all, gratulations on being two years old, like
I was saying three, actually three three, I'm approaching four.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (10:05):
So like, like all of these things happened to where
it made me want to actually seek something better you
know what I mean. So when I took myself to
rehab out in LA did a couple of months out there,
and it was cool, you know what I'm saying. I
got back out and I was still tempted to live
that kind of life. But I saw what was in

(10:27):
front of me and I was like, this is more
valuable than what's behind me.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
What what gave you the courage?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I would say to to be able to talk about
it right, because you know, some people look about it
as it's embarrassing, and then some people say, you know,
it could actually help people that's going through the same
thing that you're actually going through or that you dealt with,
you know, I.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Mean with the support team. You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (10:46):
Because the first time it happened, we had like an
intervention and he came.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
On, it's over those first time.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I need to know what the intervention looks like.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I read, well, he came up with an a pummer
like bro delicate right now.

Speaker 11 (11:00):
But I mean like the love I got in the
support I got, it made me feel safe. It made
me feel safe, and you know what I'm saying. Of
course I do feel ashamed, you know what I'm saying
at first, you know what I mean, Wow, it's a disease. Well,
because like we from, you'ren't supposed to let nobody see
you like that, you know what I'm saying. We always

(11:21):
talk like you know what I'm saying. Once you find
yourself in that position and your brother called you out
on it, you be hoping that you can get rid
of it before he come and check me.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
But when he comes check me on it, I get mad.

Speaker 11 (11:32):
At myself and be like, damn, I supposed to got
straight before you know what I mean, my manager would
come or if he would come, you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
So it was it was now. The thing about it is,
you know what I'm saying, And we've had this conversation before,
Like as long as he was battling this addition, long
as he was on drug, I never actually saw him
do drug. I never saw it, like you know what
I'm saying. So whatever he would do it, he'd do it.
And I don't know whether he would have while he
was around me or not, but I would. But what

(12:01):
I'm saying, there went like while we was around each other,
it was still this in it was still like this.
So when I went to him. I didn't even know.
I didn't know the difference. You know what I'm saying.
I still but I was concerned. So I'm like, hey, man,
I can't even fuck with you like that. Man, Then
what you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Then what you're gonna do? Bro, I ain't finna sit
around while.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
You do this.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
I ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
I feel like I remember that period when you was
It feels like you was giving Drove tough love, like
you had to put him to the side.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
You didn't come on.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I didn't put him to the side. I just told him, Man,
you're gonna either man either. I can't just continue to
support you, deteriorate, to deteriorate, destroying yourself. You got it.
And he was like, man, all right, I got to
cook the funniest thing that man told me Cause when
when the overdose. Wait a minute, now, I'm trying to stop.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Look man, you show problem whatever, but no, no, no, no,
but it helped me through it. But look, no hit
me out. So this is what I'm saying now, God
bless all of the people who have you know what
I'm saying, who have overcame h addiction and God bless

(13:15):
the people who have succumbed to it, and so many
of our our leaders and so many of our just
the the heroes of our culture are passing away, you know,
you know because the feenal everdemit is real.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
You feel me.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
And we've seen so many people like like like fall
and not make it. That man made it three times,
three times. And the third time they called me and
he was, you know what I'm saying, somewhere with people
that I would feel like, you know what I'm saying,
wouldn't have the same care to do the things that

(13:54):
need to be done. But he still made it. Uh,
And I could be you know what I'm saying that
that that that I'm speaking more of the area than
I am about the people, you know. But after that
they called me and I said, hell, nah, man, you laught.
So I called. I say, brouh man, Man, what's up? Bro?
Like man?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now?

Speaker 5 (14:15):
I said, what do you mean now? Now? Someone? What's up?
I said, Man, I know you ain't you know, I
know you ain't gonna suck around off yourself. And he say, man,
that that ship didn't even happy.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
I didn't.

Speaker 11 (14:26):
I didn't feel I didn't feel like well I didn't
know what fitting on was. You feel what I'm saying
to be honest with you, like like like he said
like it was a crazy pill, Like I didn't. I
didn't I want to ask for he Look, you got
fitting off.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
You feel what I'm saying. I just what drug was?
It was?

Speaker 11 (14:41):
It? It was a pert you know what I mean.
So once I once I took it, I didn't believe it.
You feel what I'm saying. So when it when it happened,
I felt like I felt like now I'm obligated to
tell my story and so it can help somebody that's
and you know that's fighting addiction, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
We just lost let the.

Speaker 11 (15:00):
Legend, yeah, you know, and and for me to be
that made it through, I think that, you know, I
should use this platform that I have, you know that.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
And he shares with me.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
And then and then it was also after we lost
our partner, h our pon the peanut that done, Peanut
done done, like kind of he died the same way.
You know what I'm saying. But it's a calling on
this man life. So when you say why is he
sharing it? I don't think he has a choice. I
feel like he was kind of positioned to survive all

(15:32):
the stuff that he survived and to have the effortless
connection with community. You know what I'm saying, If you
go anywhere in Atlanta, you gonna see Droe Couds. I
don't give a damn where you go, what part of
the city you in, you go see somebody who related
to young Joke. And he didn't been there every high
school in the city. He know everybody and you know,

(15:54):
to have that community tie. But then had his testimony
that you can share with these people and you know
what I'm saying, to inspire and uplift like that's that's special.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
You know what I like, dro do give you give
rich pastor energy, rich pastor. I want to thank God.
Record makes so much sense to me when I heard it.

Speaker 11 (16:15):
Yeah, I feel like I feel like I have, uh,
you know, the ability to give a ministry, not a minister,
you know what I mean. Like you know, like to
you you know, being growing up in the church and
stuff like that. You know, I just came back to that,
you know what I mean. But you know this right
here was a blessing man and you know, Tip called

(16:37):
and was like, hey, I think you should start to
tell because I did a lot of interviews in the
in the beginning and I didn't.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Want to say it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 11 (16:45):
But I said it on this track, and I thought
that I should should have said to God first, you
feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
And on that platform, that was the first time you
really made that. Now people knew that you was you
was clean, but they didn't know like.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
What I didn't know? Yeah, like just like the question
you asked, what made you?

Speaker 11 (16:59):
And I used to always be it around it and
I was like, well, I ain't ready to say it yet,
you know what I mean. But when he came along
and said, I think you should start telling it, I
was like, what better way you feel?

Speaker 8 (17:10):
How did you feel after you're in the studio and
you finally said it it's on the record, Like did
you feel weight lifted off of you? Or did you
were you anxious about how people would respond to knowing
exactly what happened?

Speaker 11 (17:19):
Or I felt like a weight lifted off of me
because of where we recorded at with with Kirk Franklin
overdosed in that studio. So I think that where God
where I broke myself at, God built me right back up.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Or do I just ended up just put it.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
It just happened that way, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (17:39):
And I was shamed to go back to the studio,
and I was, and I was, you know, I was
talking to guy, was like, I don't want to go back,
and he was like, go back in there and watch
what I do.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
So you knew you was going to record this record,
but you didn't even know.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wow wow wow.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Well he was actually at the studio for something. I
think he was working on the ps C L So
he was in the studio for something. Mail uh. And
then I was just like hey u k Kurt on
the way You're like what now I'm FeelA do mine
now I'm feeling you know what I'm saying. So he
went on and laid ladies. Lady verged down right then
that day, but it was definitely ordained.

Speaker 11 (18:17):
Initially, I was ashamed to go back to the studio
because everybody was there.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (18:23):
So soon tip so when we started working on the
psc album, I just was like, you know what I'm.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Saying something he never even told me. I didn't even know.

Speaker 11 (18:31):
I didn't I wasn't cool with coming back in there.
You feel me after I'm been laid all out on
the floor, you know what I'm saying. But once I
once I got the opportunity, I just swallowed that, took
that walk of shame, went back in there and recorded,
not knowing that God was going to rebuild me and
give me a platform to actually share with people what
happened to me right there and you know, get the

(18:52):
glory out of it.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
You did you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Did you hear God in that moment?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Did you like I heard him in that moment?

Speaker 5 (18:56):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you did you deal with
why you needed or why you thought you needed those pills?
Was it upset? Was it I wanted to turn up?
Was Did you think you needed it to make a record?
Did you deal with that part of it? Because that's
the part that scared me with any artist, because it's
like you take it feeling like it's gonna take you
to someplace else, and it's like, well, what made you
feel like I had to take that pill to.

Speaker 11 (19:19):
It started out with like just having fun, you know,
in the hood again high, but then it made me
feel like I needed it. To make good music, you
know what I'm saying. And actually it just stimulated and
I used to just write crazy and then it got
to the point where like it became an addiction. So
that went out the window. Music went out the window.

(19:40):
And then I was like, oh, I needed to you know, do.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
This and do that.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
You know what I'm saying. Plus from trauma, you know
what I'm saying. Things happened to me when I was younger,
you know what i mean, being shot and introduced to
dem role and addicted to that in the hospital, and
you know from from the from the way I got
whoopings as a child. That that trauma. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (19:59):
Well, we don't talk with that known yea lord, troumble
this discipline, that's not.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
Stuff I can't speak on that.

Speaker 11 (20:15):
I and stuff. We was tied up and beat like
but but not like. But to be honest with you,
my family, like we we thought my mama had five boys,
so it was hard to discipline five boys on her own.

Speaker 9 (20:30):
Were you youngest, oldest, middle, I'm.

Speaker 11 (20:32):
Right after the oldest, you know what I mean. So
when she laid the belt down, and it was necessary
because all of us are living today. None of us
are really like that bad of people. But and she
did the best. But when you whipping like that, you
have to be careful about how you do it. Now,
it's cool to whoop your child, you know, and discipline them,
but if you're gonna beat the ship out of them,
then you might as well get ready for something in

(20:54):
them that you don't know about. You know what I mean,
Because now that I'm older, she's probably surprised that when
she hears this.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
You you know what I'm saying, How does that affect you
with your kids?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
How you discipline your kids?

Speaker 11 (21:05):
I see, I've recognized it, and I'm not gonna do
it to that degree. I'm a straight mind, but I
ain't gonna go that far because I don't want the repercussion.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
I feel like, I feel like I feel like as
far as as far as child discipline is concerned, they
just need to know that they can get their ass work.
You see what I'm saying. You don't always have to
whoop their head, but you got to do it. You
got to live it down one time and they're like, hey,
you remember, Okay, now you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (21:30):
So y'all got boys.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I got all girls, so it's different.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Man. You can't whoop your girl.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Y'all got you got a strong black woman with you.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Absolutely.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
Hey man, I want to apologize my friend. I got
beside myself. I shouldn't have took feelings to that.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
You know what I'm saying. That's my right there.

Speaker 11 (21:49):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't goinna be slapping,
no goddamn.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
But listen, hey man, we all we all here together.
We came here together, We're gonna leave here together. We're
gonna grow together. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So
you know, I just had to make that. So we're
gonna have a good time. We're gonna have bad times,
you know. But one thing we ain't gonna have it
no broke tabs.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
You did say something your daughter.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Was on drugs.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
He said, yeah, my little girl ended up picking up drugs.

Speaker 11 (22:16):
But it happened just like how I did it when
I was seventeen eighteen, You feel me, and it just
played back, and it's the generational generational curse that like
how my father was. My father picked it up at
that age and he did it for fifty years, you
feel me. Then I picked it up and then I
lived that way then my little girl and I was
thinking about it, and all of this happened before I

(22:37):
went to rehab. Overdose this and all of that, you
feel what I'm saying. So when she did it, I
looked at God and it was just like he had
just revealed himself, like, Hey, I'm here. Now it's time
to start grabbing this by the reins, you know what
I'm saying. So when that happened, I was in rehab
while she was out. We're supposed to went together to
get the help, you know what I'm saying, And she

(22:58):
wasn't ready. But I had to go ahead of her
to be an example, you know. And I actually broke
this curse in my family because.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's what.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
She's good. Man.

Speaker 11 (23:10):
She's working at the hospital and we talk all the time.
She's doing great. Man, She's clean.

Speaker 8 (23:16):
You have the It takes a village foundation that you
do where you're in the schools talking to the kids.
When you're talking to the kids, like what are you
dissecting from your story to Because some of the kids
I saw in these videos are really young, So what
are the main issues you're seeing with the kids, and
how do you take your story and kind of mentor them.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Up a bit.

Speaker 11 (23:33):
So what we do is it still takes a village.
We're in the communities and then the schools and then
the homes, and we do like interventions and I use
what I've been through. And then my manager to doctor
Sierra l she is like she's been LPC for twenty
years and she's into mental and behavior health.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
You feel what I'm saying. So when we when we
come in and when we come into a.

Speaker 11 (23:56):
Situation, like I try to, I try to bring the
street part into it. You feel what I'm saying and
let people know you know what to do when you're
like conflict resolution if you're out in the street and
you feel like you don't want to be no lame
and this and that. But sometimes they diagnose these young
kids with things that that's not wrong with them.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You feel me. They been like, oh, he bipolar or he.

Speaker 11 (24:22):
Mad at you know, But the only thing is he
probably be mad at his dad because he wasn't at home.
Or they don't have nothing, you know, nothing to eat,
or you know what I'm saying. But we give them,
we diagnose them with stuff like that. But my partner,
she covers that area and I can tell them about
the street part. So we do mentoring and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
You know, do they know when you come in because
the kids are so young, like, do they know Young
Joe the artists? Or are they just like happy that
someone's in the school talking to them that they can
relate to?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Well?

Speaker 11 (24:49):
In Atlanta, nine times out of ten, I probably donet
been in that project before.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Ehere everybody, Man, he gonna look at it. Hey man,
who your mamma? Your daddy? Yeah, Man, tell you dad,
I said. It was like he's one of those kind
of people.

Speaker 11 (25:06):
But we do want to go across like America for
the most part, you feel me. So if you can't
identify with who I am as a rapper, you'll identify
with you know, what I've been through, and what I've
been through is what a lot of a lot of
youth go through, you know what I mean? Rather black white, whatever,
you feel what I'm saying, like you've been through if
you didn't been through the trenches before, I have trenches

(25:27):
stories and I have a I have an outcome that
you know I made it out.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
You know what I'm saying, and you go way back. Yeah,
we'd have been through some ship man. Nah. No, No,
I ain't in middle school. Yeah, we were probably probably
right that drop out right at the drop out age.
You know what I'm saying, kicked out.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I just didn't voluntarily.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
I got I got me too, though. I got kicked
out of Riverdale Middle. So my mama moved me from
the west side, uh uh to like to what what
what was at that time the suburbs. And can't hate
when I called it the suburb He hate that. That's
what me and him fall back because he really is south.

(26:07):
That's his area where he grew up and live. He's like,
you know, suburbs, man. What when I moved there? You know,
you know y'all had got y'allbout Noah, we had been
had about we had got out. Yeah, we had moved
from Uh we moved so and there was some like
some real real good apartments everything.

Speaker 12 (26:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
It wasn't Central Central ac you know what I mean.
So we moved out there. I was there. I had
been there since eighth grade.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I got yallo.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah, I had a vouch before then.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
You know.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
Section eight Food stamp.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Baby man.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Indeed, I don't remember. I don't know about the e
B T. I remember snatching the food stamps at the brown.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
The brown brown and the green.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Had blues back then. It's been in blue back then,
but now so eighth grade, I moved up and and
then you know, I was going back and forth when
I got kicked out of Riverdale High School for inciting
the race were actually I got kicked out of what
a race war? I got kicked out of all Clayton
County school. That's really what they called it. That what

(27:15):
they kind of what happened was me and my partner
Boos in school suspension. And then you know what I'm
saying it was, It was it was a white wife
that called us a nigga, and we got to getting
on his head. And uh then you know, his sister
came around the corner and she yea, she called us
some niggas to get out my brother and niggas and
you got to kick her ad and then everybody and
everybody was getting out of school like and it was

(27:36):
just black people fight white people. And I'm gonna tell
you something, the white teachers jumped in.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
No, yeah, man.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
The white teacher, you know how you supposed to be
bringing up fight. They be like, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that. And after the melee, you know, didn't
nobody like, didn't nobody get kicked out but me and
boo me, you know what I'm saying. And so after that,
I went back to the West Side for a minute,
got in a whole lot of trouble, caught my first caught,

(28:06):
my first case, well my first case as an adult.
So I was dealing with that. So I had to
move back with my mama. And around then, that's when
I was like sixteen seventeen years old, and that's when
dro had moved out there. And so then it was
like we two West Side guys just out here and
we just.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Clicked and she was sweet out there.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, our knicks went for like thirty Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
We literally go to Jones Burr soide was like thug hood.
We literally go to Jones Burrs out and by dying bags.
So we then we we drove back to the eye
side of town and sold them for thirty dollars. Yeah,
it was really that sweet. But anyway, that's not and
I'm not we are not let this is just a testimonial.

(28:53):
This is our testimony. We lived through this and we
earned the right to speak on it. Don't try you
remember that not that big, no more to get So
they go work today.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
Remember the first time, Well that'll be that would have
been on me because he was already there.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
So it was just dis apartment that was just booming.
I kept saying, you know, when you get there, you'd
be like, what it's that. You know what I'm saying.
When you moved somewhere. You like what I'm saying, Man,
you feel me?

Speaker 11 (29:19):
And then I just kept saying, and then you know,
shot he serving Nott the wonder.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (29:25):
And you know my partner knew him. Who the other
looking parably not meant named Ben. He knew him. You
know what I'm saying. And we just all just and
I ended up going over there and I knew his.
The way his way he talked was like how we talked,
how he was moving. It was like how we moved car.
We were from Bankhead, you feel me. Seemed like we
was destined to meet because we was on one side
of town. I was in bankhad course, he was up

(29:46):
the street and center Hill. Then we moved to Riverdale.
Then you know what I'm saying, not even knowing that
this was going to come together, you know what I'm saying,
But it was all, it was all.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
And I also and I also like had like a
little studio, so I was selling dope, but I also
had a little studio in my in my room, right,
so and droke a rep, you know what I'm saying,
And so you know, we'll we'll be rapping. And I
had like a keyboard with some little speakers and ship,
so I'll be doing my doing my beat and cutting
up my dope at the same time. And Joe like, man,

(30:14):
what you're trying to do? I said, Man, I would
be a rapper. I'm cutting I'm cutting my god damn
ounces up. He's like, I can't tell you be no
damn wrapper. You know what I'm saying. And that's kind
of how we you know, we bonded because he wasn't
really selling though like he was. He was, he was
out there in the mix, but he didn't for some reason,
had no interest. He really wanted to be a rapper,

(30:35):
like he was really, really, really seriou about it, and
he got a deal before I did.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, yeah, Droe had a deal. He had to two deals.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
You signed up.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm about to I was on the radio like one
day he was.

Speaker 11 (30:51):
He was at the radio station and I called up there,
but I was already on the radio.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I think you're putting out serious or something like that.
And I called in.

Speaker 11 (30:59):
He was like, yeah, drove like drove and I was like, Nigga,
didn't doe. He was like you. I was like, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. But I was already on
the radio.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Body. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So when you meet you met KP is the one
who really.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Help Yeah, KP. He uh. I met KP through uh DJ,
you know Jason. Jason took me Jason, DJ, Tump and
my cousin Too, God bless uh he he. They took
me at an intervention because when I told you, when
I told you, I caught, I caught that that dope case.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
They put me on seven years of probation. I was
seventeen years old at the time. But me and and
Tump too and Jay all of us had put our
money together to work on like a demo, you know
what I mean, And so they but I had just
found out that I was about to have my first child.
So after that, in my mind, I'm like, oh no,
I can't live like this having no baby. I got

(31:55):
to get it. I got to get to I got
to get it together. So I just kind of like
in my mind, I was like, Okay, so I'm gonna
just sell a whole bunch of dope in a little
bit of time and stack me up enough money do
what I need to do. But in the process of
doing that, I was like up all times a night,
riding the bicycle, all up and down bank head, all
kinds of I tell me, no matter what time you

(32:15):
from five in the morning, eight pm, twelve pm, all
times a day, I'm just riding my bike up and
down with a backpack like a little messenger, like a messenger,
and just just trapping and saving and trapping and saving.
And they had an indiventure because they found out. I
was trying not to let them know what I was doing,
but I guess word got around. They found out, and

(32:37):
they sat me down, was like, hey man, how is
we gonna be investing our money? And you if you
continue to doing what you're doing, you get locked up.
You're already on probation and everything were working for is
gonna be for nothing. I'm like, man, I got a
baby on the way. I tell you what, you take
me somewhere right now, Man, Well, I could showcase my
talent and I can actually, you know, somewhere that I
could actually get a deal and do this professionally, and

(33:00):
then you can ask me to stop. I ain't. I
ain't stopping, just to be stopping. And then I think
Tump and my cousin like, man, that's that's not even reasonable.
How can you say something? Then Jason say I know
a place. I say, see I like him, and so
he At the time, KP's a part of a group
called PA Parental Advisories Extension organized on it, and they

(33:20):
had their own uh deal with dream Works, and they
was doing the album. And as it was described to me,
the album was supposed to be like like like the Chronic.
How the Chronic had a bunch of unknown guys Just
and Dre were doing the beats. So so they was
looking for talent. They were looking for, you know, unknown talent.
And so Jason called him and said, man, I got somebody. Man,

(33:43):
it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be harder than anything
you listening to and so they said bring them. So
we went that same night. We went and uh, KP
wasn't there, but the other the other two members, Mellow
and Reeche, they were there and I think Reeche probably,
I think Mellow play the beat and Reef was like,

(34:03):
you can wrap on that? I said, can I wrap?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Man?

Speaker 5 (34:06):
What a booth? I go straight in the booth? One't
take it. They were like where you being? Like ride
my bike up and there and uh. And then they
told k P about me, and they told me about
KPE and uh they gave I gave my beeple number. Yeah,
that's how long ago people people gave making, you know.

(34:30):
So it was about two weeks and I was like, yeah, exactly,
just like I thought, nothing happened. I'm back on my
bike and I got a I got a page, you
know when I got a page with no cold. And
that was strange, you know what I'm saying, because all
my pages came with cold. I know where to go
and what to bring with me, and so I just

(34:50):
rolled down to the payphone. Again, show you how long
ago this woman. So I rolled down to the payphone
and called and said the face records thing, I said,
what some dope it little face somebody page tip and
then it's like, oh, it must have been KP. And
then I was like KP. And then he was like, yo,
you was in the studio with with with Reson mellow Man,

(35:11):
and I'm KP. That's my group, and you know, I
gotta I gotta recollect with the Ghetto Vision and we're
going out to the We're going out to the Source Awards.
Uh in l A want to know if you want
to come, I'm like, who going? You're like, just you
know me and you know KP. He has this way
just just like throwing away some very very monumental moments

(35:36):
like oh man, just me out care, get in mall
Kool Breese, young Bloods, you know, gonna go hang. I say,
all right, let me let me, let me check my schedule,
let me see what I got to do. Okay, yeah,
I think I can make it. And so at that point,
I'm like, okay, well, I got to get up enough

(35:56):
money to get out here. So I'm you know, so
I could take care of myself and handle myself like
a player. So I went and got, I went and got.
I was getting too in the baby at the time,
so I paid for my reup, but then I told
him to front me another uh another one on top
of that. You know. So I had me a little
feway and so I sold half of had the money

(36:16):
put the rest of it back. So when I said
when when I come back, I'm I'm gonna trap this
and then that'll be my reup. You know what I'm
saying for for for my net load. So I went
out there. Man, I ended up freestyling on the tour
bus with good in Mob and Outcare. I ended up
doing the camera blocking Caukubrie were driving from Atlanta to
LA the tour bus. No, no, you're driving his he

(36:39):
adin't fly. Then he didn't fly. So he drove from
Atlanta to LA and made it, but minceed the camera
black and so they say, man, we need somebody to
do the camera black and for COOPB report on watch
for the hook like I know, I know, I know
the song man. So I ended up on the stage
with Outcare, Good in my wish doctor and you know

(37:00):
backbone the whole organized noise Rico waite, Uh, I mean
everybody and everybody like embraced me to say it, like
where you from, bro, I'm like, man, I'm from Atlanta.
Now where you from, bro, Like from the West side, well, Bankhead,
Well niggas center here, bake a roll. What's up?

Speaker 10 (37:16):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (37:17):
They was like, oh, shout it from the town for real.
And I remember that one then when I really felt
like I had made it right. So we came back
I think maybe from camera blacking or maybe from some
some official thing. Where everybody went to came back was
in the all in the lobby of the hotel and
I'm looking this way at cie Lo cu Joe looking

(37:37):
their way, a big boy and Dre Court Drave went
straight to he room, you know what I'm saying. Where
everybody just hanging out right, and uh then uh, you know,
I was always kind of like I just had away
with attracting lady and stuff. And you know, of course
a group of niggas. Everybody like, man, the girls, what

(37:57):
a girl? What a girl? So I was like, man,
you know, I go to that. And we was right
across the street from the Belly Center, at the Sofa Tier,
right cross street from the Beller Center. La. I'm like, man,
I go to the go to the mall, get some
girl that you know. So me and k p went
to the marble. But then where we were finna go.
I remember Big Boy saying, hey, man, yeah, when you
get back, man, come on up to the room. Man
blow one. Man. I say, huh, Big Boy from Outcastes

(38:19):
and told me to come smoke one with a minute. Man.
Hell yeah, So we go come back. I go knock
on Big boyroom smoking and we chilling and talking. I'm like, man, nigga,
I have made it. I'm in here smoking with Big
Boy for outcast and I just freestyled with sea load

(38:40):
and man. I went back home. I gave at dope away.
I didn't never tell I didn't want to see a
no more dope no more. I told my I told
my plug. I said a brouh, I feel do the
rap shit. So I ain't got your money right now.
I had to spend all the money that I had.
I I ain't got your money right now. I don't
even want to risk it. He say, you know what, rouh,
you don't owe me nothing long as you're doing that.
But you get back in the game, I won't my money.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
You ever go back and get money on that.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
I didn't know no now he had called a k man.
He had caught the case and he would he was
gone before I could, God damn get to him.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
You know, this week was twenty three years if I'm serious,
I'm serious. Came to the two thousand and one.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
God damn okay, and there was two years before that,
so they were twenty five years ago. Yeah, won't he
do it? Thank God?

Speaker 8 (39:26):
I'm just thinking, like, what's the conversations of God, Like
y'all have y'all story?

Speaker 9 (39:30):
God amazing, like the blessing.

Speaker 7 (39:33):
Yes, like man drove cover too, but tip cover.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I mean I'm supercovered.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Yeah, I think we both are. This kind of why.
I think we kind of we understand the position that
the other. I understand his position. He understand my position.
I understand like I know that God got his hand
on him because I could see it.

Speaker 11 (39:54):
And man, I'm on bard time. You feel me, I'm
supposed to be doing this interview. The amount of money
I saw him lifeless.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
I saw him. I saw it with my own amount
of money, not in person, but but my son, like
the money was actually the one that walked in and
saw he faced me say hey, what's up with Joe.
I'm trying to wake him up. He won't wake up.
And I'm like, Joe jo.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Hey, man, that's what woke me up. I was like,
this is so annoying.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
Get your something, he said.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Then I heard something. He said, what's wrong?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
I was like, I don't know what he was doing.
He was like he was trying to talk back, but
he couldn't talk. You know what I'm saying, I said, man,
go call them lamb man. And you know what I'm saying.
They said, if he had if the money had.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
The money was actually when you actually he did talk
about the family, how old the money was.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
He was.

Speaker 11 (40:56):
He almost broke my you know, he knew when I
when I when I got when I was up and
I was came to I was like, my chance is
killing me.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
He was like.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
He might have been nineteen.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Wow, And you talked the money.

Speaker 5 (41:16):
We all did so back, you know, back because because
my sister, prescious, she used to have me. She used
to she used to have uh asthma tacks all the time,
and so because she had admatur all the time she
was living in the house with us, we never didn
want you know, one of the kids. Actually somebody did
did walk in while she was having admitak and didn't
know what to do, and that what prompted us to

(41:37):
get everybody some CPR training. I don't know if everybody
remembered it, you know what I'm saying, But actually he did.

Speaker 11 (41:43):
Yeah, just say I'm covered as an understatement, I have
something to do. Yeah, it's something that I.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Feel too, Bro, I feel like you know what I'm saying.
It's a perfect God got me here because I could. Man,
you remember that shoot that we were sing?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Hey, listen to me.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
How do y'all remember shoot?

Speaker 5 (42:02):
I was.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I was actually healing up from a gunshot woman, you
know what I'm saying. So I wasn't. I had still
had staples in my stomach, you know, that was healing up.
And we know these cases.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
It was so funny, little man shout we were really
going to fight. D you dude, right, because you know
I was one.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I was this was this before signed this.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
I ain't touch no dope. I ain't touched no dope
since that day. I ain't touch no dope. You know
what I'm saying. I might have I might have seen
a little bit, but I ain't touching you know what
I'm saying. But anyway, so they were telling on me
because I guess they had just moved out there, and
I get they wanted to get in and have they
look motion and I already had all the motion and apartments,

(42:47):
and so they they were telling, they were telling the police,
and it was a particular police officer did, uh, we're cool.
You know, I ain't gonna say no name, but to
buy weed from him. And you know what I'm saying.
When he's buying the little we this stuff, he was like, man,
you know the me you know, the folks telling people
down there about you. You know, I'm like, I know
you laugh. And so I walk up, you know, seeing

(43:07):
them probably there, and tap on the wind and said, ay, bro,
you know what happened. You know what I'm saying, Folks
saying my name, saying my name is police station? You
know what happened where I'm from? Right, He just rode
them up and put off, and so you know what
I'm saying. So I was like, I know what to
do about that. So me and I went and got
all my parnel from the West side.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Man we had.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
And we we can't but we weren't. You know what
I'm saying. But it's just a little lad whipping, just
teaching a little Spanky and so you know, I went
to Joe Hall and were walking down, walking down the
hill smoking and we said him, Daddy, go right there,
but were walking up there, little we walk up.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
So we walk up there.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
The nigga walking out the shadows. It's big, but they.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Had on gold jail. They looked like gold.

Speaker 14 (43:46):
Like, wait, a motherfucking man, man, No, no, no, no, man,
let's switch to the other plan. Let's he was like,
hell no, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
It was like up the fire, up the fire star,
start blabing.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Man.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
The nigga droves and the shoot that's going this way right,
you know, this nigga drove ran straight here, just like
that shirt on.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I was like, this chain ain't gonna help this.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Like dude, I'm like, why is you running this way? Bro?
Hey man? That ship was fun in here and didn't
get where. We all went back. So after the shoot
that everybody break, I go there own way. We all
make our way back to U Droves. How could that
we left her? We made it back to Droe Putman
and any apartment it's like a it's a building. You
walk in the building, it's two punt men downstairs. Stairway

(44:42):
upstairs and two pupments up stead. Uh, so we go
in the building. We knocked on the door and we
can hear the police. So we're laying down, we knocking
on the door. Joe, Mama say, hell no, don't bring
that ship in.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Y'all ain't coming in.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
So we said, everybody lined up on the step were trying, Mama,
you got to let us in.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Y'all ain't coming in here. Let us in.

Speaker 11 (45:02):
So now when she let us in, all us laying
on the floor while the departments is being flooded with police.
And mind you, every time me and him get together,
they end up kicking in the door or the police
come and they try to take us away.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
You know what I'm saying, ask a question when y'all
get together like this, right, trying to separate it. But
when y'all get together like this and these these moments, right,
one moment that's coming to mind that the MTV Awards
when y'all y'all came out and performed Shoulder Land.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
But then you did what you know about that by
yourself being.

Speaker 6 (45:32):
That'll have been through all of those life for death
situations and all of that type of ship and what
is y'all mindset.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
When y'all in those moments, y'all just look at each
other and laugh.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Like God, we don't really think about it until like
we'll talk about it to like now, we just you know,
if we weren't here, we probably we we create new moments,
you know what I'm saying. The next moment is probably
what we're thinking.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Man, rebuilding, creating new moments, just the thing.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45:58):
Yeah, And you know we watch black people get there
ip stolen all the time. Likeness gets stolen all the time,
and it's usually big fish, each little fish with these corporations.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
What made you want to go to war with with
that that corporation numerous times too?

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna be very very clear concise with my message,
and I'm gonna be honest and direct. I did not
want to. This was my wife, My wife. Yeah, she
was the one who were pressing the hell out the issue.
But she kept pressing the hell out the issue. And
and I'm glad she did. You know what I'm saying,
I'm glad she did. God bless you know. That's that's

(46:34):
that's what marriage is. Fucked absolutely and I think you
know it was her tenacity, and now I was I
saw it, but I just didn't see how, you know,
we could just keep pushing it, pushing and pushing it
like that, and it ship was caustly, you know what
I'm saying. We were probably like three and a half

(46:54):
million in and and every time we go back to
court it's another some figure. And then the last time
we had lost the case, you know, for whatever reason,
and then the other then he had the nerve to
send me his bill. I said, I know you fucking last.

(47:14):
And then the law changed, the law change that said
that the First Amendment could no longer protect uh, you
know when it comes to to like to likeness, uh
and so on. I think it was some kind of
Jack Daniels case where it was a little puppy, a
little a little like a little dog that a little

(47:36):
Jack Russell dogg that I think it had something similar
to Jack Daniels own it. And they thought that they
could do that, and Jack Daniels the whiskey was like, no,
y'all can't do that. It's like, now it's a parody,
and we protected out of the First Amendment, and the
Supreme Court rule, no you're not. And that's what got
us back in court to judge said, Okay, well this
law change, so we had to go and we had

(47:57):
to revisit this all over again, and thank and thank god,
you know, we did. And Judge was extremely he was
extremely fair, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
And and I think that the jury that we had
could see through a lot of the shenanigans and nonsense
that the other side were trying to pull. Although I
understand the other side position. You know, this guy he's
you know, he's a billionaire, right and and I'm sure
he not in that motherfucker looking every day and who

(48:28):
does and trying.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
To say what.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
So I'm sure some people who he had put in
position who probably didn't want to do some work and
just say, you know what, I could just take this
and do this and then that that he won't know,
you know, and he probably didn't until and then.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
But now, Hey, the crazy thing is they probably would
have offered you guys a deal. You guys probably would.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
Have did a deal with the pactability absolutely, man. I mean,
like at the beginning, we've had several mediation and he
just never wanted he never wanted to come to the
table to mediate, you know what, I'm saying never even
thought that he even had to consider you know, uh
like like resolving this. I mean I gues because, like

(49:10):
you say, corporation do it all the time. I give
people are so used to it, it's become the norm. Uh.
He didn't think that it deserved any consideration. Luckily, the
judge and the jury thought different.

Speaker 8 (49:22):
First thought when y'all when the ruling came down for
the window, Like, what was your first thought?

Speaker 5 (49:27):
Man, Yeah, that's it, that's man. I was with KP
actually and we were actually and I was feeling like
I didn't make it to the day for the when
the when the deliberation was handed, you.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Much as thought you were gonna lose any I.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Had to shoot a movie. We just got through shooting
Apartments Part two, and as a director, you know, I
got to be there. I can't. And I took one
week off and they said it was gonna be done
that week and then the next week, like it were
suposed to be done by Friday. They started, they went
into deliberation on Friday, and we're suposed to come back
Friday with divertedt but they didn't. So they said it's

(50:05):
gonna be Monday. I said man, I can't come back Monday.
I got to go back to work. So I did,
and I'm on the phone and I'm listening and we
were still shooting too, we still supposedly feeling I said, man,
y'all handle it, y'all hand it? Hey, man, Yeah, because
I walked out in the middle of a scene, and

(50:27):
so they still doing They're like hey. I was like, man,
and then k K Kate said, I cut.

Speaker 11 (50:35):
I can tell you how I felt. I was like,
remember what we had talked about. Make sure you give
me my little pig. That's all I need.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
But I didn't know no number I was. I was
listening and I heard him say, you know that, you
know that, like the first infringement or so on and
so forth, and they were talking. They went down the
list of dolls, which one did was one then, but
then I heard the number seventeen points. I'm a million.
I say seventeen Yeah, I did, I say seventeen million.

(51:08):
And so I hung up the phone. And then we
had to go fly to Vegas to do a show Arizona.
We had to fly to Arizona to do a show.
And while we're on the plane, they went back into
the liberations for punitive damages. And then they came back
with the punitive it said fifty three million three means

(51:30):
say plus the seventies.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Around text Again, I was like, don't forget that piece.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
I said, you better stop showing that like this. You
better stop showing that like this now.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
And them lawsuits to tax free so there's no TAXI taking.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
No that's not true. Oh yeah, you don't put that
out there like that. Now, the actual damages, for the
actual damages, there are no taxes because the taxis to
actual damages. Are you know what, whatever dolls they say
look the most like the girls with those dolls made,
so those are actual damages. And and the the taxes

(52:09):
were already put into the they were taken from the
gross before this, so the taxes was paid on this money.
So this on this note, well, on the punitive, you
do have to you do have to pay taxes. It's
still a come up still, man, No, it's a blessed right,

(52:36):
you're right, yeah, but but even more so I love
to see like my daughters, my daughter and my nieces
like they also like they straight you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
I saw people saying that on social media was like,
I hope they get a girl something like.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
No, man, it's they fight. You feel what I'm saying,
And I feel like for them to be vindicated and
you know, to come out Victorias and the sea. If
you stand up for some you know what and you
and you know that, you know in your heart truly
that you that you fighting for for what's what's what's yours.

(53:13):
You know the outcome is gonna be victorious as long
as you claim it, believe it, and let God lead
the way. I'm happy to be a part of the
process of of of allowing them to see that.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Now sometimes and it's a more paper and none.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
I'm to tell you it's more because there's more dolls
that came up to look like other celebrities. I'm just
telling you some more money out there. Money.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
These corporations do get retaliating sometimes.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
No, I mean, you know what I mean. I mean
they have the right to appeal and the man they
can exercise that right then that'll open the door for trademark.
So trademark means now we're looking at all the dolls.
If you want to open up the door for trademark,
you're gonna open up the door for trademark going in
a pill. Now that's the three could turn the two
three bs, So go ahead, open it up, do your things.
I got it, you know, but oh, you could just

(54:07):
come over with this sementy right now.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
I saw du Ball post you man. He was at
a show the other day. I forgot what y'all performing
at Community Service Community Service, and he said, he said
that you just one of the best performers, one of
the best lyricists out there, which people feel.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
How did that make you feel?

Speaker 11 (54:24):
It made me feel good. Man, it's long overdue. I've
always thought I always thought that the talent and the craft.
I've always had respect for it, and you know, to
to get my flowers for it. Man, It's it's long overdue.
I mean I have I feel like that if you
if you love the craft and respect it like the

(54:44):
way I do, because you know people, you know, people
can get your music, you know, to get your album
or whatever. And that's one thing for somebody to have
your album. But I think that once the album died
down and then you know, it just only depends on
your and what you have to offer in a live show.
You feel what I'm saying like, oh, well, you know

(55:04):
I want to see Drove perform live. You know what
I mean, because shouted live show crazy. I had to
see de Bo once I met him in person and
I seen it live. It carries you know what I mean,
So I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Man, What will DRO's new music sound like? You know
what I mean? Because you know you see Kendrick put
out the party. The party was the party.

Speaker 6 (55:23):
Most director and here with La Crab been saying in
D one how they want more positive messages in the music.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Is it gonna be that? Like you're gonna really give
the ministry most definitely.

Speaker 11 (55:32):
I'm going to make sure that I set aside time
and use my vocals to put back into what happened
to me, you know what I mean, and for use
it for like a positive outlook on things. But I
will not stop telling my truth and what's happening to
us as a community and what society is you know,

(55:53):
has to offer us, you know what I mean? Like
I won't I won't shy away from telling you how
I took a appeal that killed me.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I won't shy away.

Speaker 11 (56:01):
From telling you that they serving them you feel me,
I won't shy away from telling you that most of
most of the things that we do in the hood
comes from like drug use, Like a lot of things
that go on in the hood. Man, people be using drugs.
And with the mental state that we have, man, we
we out here doing the wrong stuff. You know what
I'm saying. So I won't shy away from that. And
I also use my my platform to do songs with

(56:25):
people like Dietrich hadn't like run out of time, you
know what I mean? And one k f you you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Absolutely, And now t I gotta ask. Now you said
I will raise this child to torture you the way
you torture me. Talk about King about to have his
first child, is that is that true? I mean, I mean,
I mean because he seems like the child gave you
the most problems. Man, I mean, to be honest, which

(56:52):
I'm gonna just be, I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna
keep it a buck.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
King is. You know, he's a he's always better around, punctuous, outgoing,
energetic child, you know what I'm saying. But just to
be honest, he is fucked compared to me and the
ship that I did, and how he ain't really gave
them kinds of problems, you know what I'm saying. Uh,

(57:16):
he gave something that might resemble like it, could you know,
become that, but he never he ain't never you know,
did the kind of ship that I was doing that
I know about. Uh So I don't. I can't say that.
You know, he just gave me a whole lot of problems.
But the problem that he did get he did give,

(57:36):
he gonna get him back. He gonna have a son,
and his son just telling you. I'm just telling you,
and he gonna understand. He gonna understand what it means.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Can't you do shit? Like?

Speaker 5 (57:45):
Let me tell you some So I put you know, uh, Major,
and I wanted to put Major and and and King
and like one of the best schools in Atlanta wood Work.
And we went and Danger had already went to Woodwork.
And so now you know it's time for Major to

(58:05):
find him a new school. And I'm like, well we
put Major, that man will put King there with him.
So it will take Major King and we do the test,
you know, you got to have that uh the you know,
the consultation, and they had had the kid take a
test and what have you Major pass flying colors, and
it was like Major, Sure, I'm sure we find a

(58:26):
spot for him. He's definitely with materials. Say, but your
other son, is he okay? Say what you mean? Is
he okay? Said? These are the lowest test scores we've
ever seen. But the man winning hill and intentionally failed
so he wouldn't have to go to private school. Man,

(58:46):
he wanted to stay in public school out there with
his friend. And so that's the kind of ship he did.
You know what I'm saying, Like, it ain't bad, but
it's like.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
The genius.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
I know how to stick around.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I want to be.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
He still didn't get to be way. He wanted to
be a cent him way on the other side of
town to another school that he couldn't stand, you know,
but he made through. He stuck through it, and you
know what I'm saying, Uh, And then COVID happened, so
they kind of shined on him.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Now, there was another video of you and Boosy talking
to your sons about the video with with the firearms
in it. How was that conversation because I know he
was just like that, come.

Speaker 5 (59:23):
On that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Man. He don't
never like he he always looked at me like, bro
coming from you do you know? You Like, I'm like, no, no, now,
you didn't even know me back you hear me, but
he didn't heard a lot of stories like you know,
just like me and Droeg shit around talk about and

(59:45):
then yeah, hear my other uncles and aunt ties and
my mama talk about how they had to deal with me.
You know what I'm saying. So he like, a you
gonna come tell me anything like nigga like this, you
know what I'm saying. But that that's actually a part
of a show that we remember me boosy uht. So

(01:00:05):
that was that was a part of the show. But
it was a real video and we did actually like
I think I think the camera people knew what were
going on, but they didn't necessarily tell us. So when
we walked up, it was kind of really really kind
of in shock a little bit. For real. We knew
we were coming to film. We't know that this was
gonna be it. You know, I thought it was gonna

(01:00:27):
be more so just like them using our cause and
you know, trying to imitate a life today. But ain't
a nigga, ain't y'all can do all this you know,
so that was a real moment.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
But running off like I can't be nowhere around and
I had to Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
And man, one of the funny part I don't know
if this is on the clip that was shown. One
of the funny party Boosie looked that wasn't say hey
you yeah, see you've been hanging around a lot. You're
gonna have to pay. You're gonna have to pay pay
your dues, like you know what I'm saying. But all
these things, I feel like it's important, and I feel

(01:01:02):
like I'm gonna put I'm gonna put the uh because
we did like a pilot episode. I'm gonna put it
out because I think it's important. As I watch it again,
we sitting down and we are as two black men.
We are fellowshipping and collectively as well as individually, dealing
with raising our sons into to be strong black men.

(01:01:26):
And it's one part man, Well, me and boos are
talking and he just broke. He just said, straight up, man,
little man, I don't want to see my son in prison.
I don't want to go visit my son, you know,
Damn Jed, I don't want to do that. And I'm like, man,
I get it. I get it, and he's like, man,
you know, I want to take it down with him.
I said, no, we can't take it that with him.

(01:01:47):
I don't know, but boost is said it could mean
anything like nah, they ain't gonna do it. And so
just just us feeding off of one another's uh wisdom
and experience and using it the benefit. How we deal
with our sons, that's something that the rest of the

(01:02:08):
world needs.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
How do y'all deal with the like the significant others
of because like I know, Demani has a baby now,
king the baby shower on and viral?

Speaker 9 (01:02:16):
Like what is like the parental check in the household?

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
What that means?

Speaker 9 (01:02:19):
Like that when they bring like their girlfriends home, are
you like.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
To na I stay out there being there?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
I don't do that. I don't get into that, like
who they dating and with it. That ain't my business,
you know what I'm saying. That's one less thing for
me to have to worry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Man, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
I don't really deal with that. I just make sure
that they they they they being respectful and that they
being respected, you know what I'm saying, Like that really
and that's really I mean, that's really all that matter
to me. You know what I'm saying that is that
at the respect level of that, everybody being treated fairly,

(01:02:53):
you know, and after that you know whether the love
laugh forever or whether it's only here for a period
of time, as long as long as the respect has
been there, that's all it's important to me. Let's get
into the single right now, Let's go. Thank God, thank God.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Y'all got a radio show. Y'all ain't play no damn.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Play some music, and we appreciate you brothers for joining
us right on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Man, We appreciate y'all, man. And one more thing, man,
because you know, I just want to say, could y'all
please stop telling everybody you know exactly how much money
y'all gonna get me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Coach put it out there.

Speaker 9 (01:03:33):
Live after that.

Speaker 7 (01:03:34):
She was the coach put that out there, to put
the bills out there. I got you, for real, I
got you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
When we get more music, what's the next PSC We
got some.

Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
I'm gonna snag a couple of records that Drawing Tip
got together and uh, that joint project gonna be there.
The ps C got a project coming out with DJ Drummer.
You feel me still in the streets, and Drew and
Atoven got a project coming out called ten Piece Hot Man.
Make sure you're bringing blue chee, you know, so that
all that's on the way.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Word let's t I is Young Joe, It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
You did wake that ass up in the morning. The
Breakfast Club