November 24, 2024 • 45 mins
The Black Effect Presents... No Ceilings!
The No Ceilings crew examines the complexities of relationships, the dynamics of communication, trust, and the roles of ego and leadership. They explore the societal expectations of masculinity, the importance of protection and provision and the impact of economic factors, the need for gratitude and appreciation in relationships and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
load glasses Malone.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, baby, what you need?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What you need, daddy, Like okay, you know, and it's been.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
We've been like we've been like good, like of course, yeah,
we're gonna get into a little like a but it's
it's nothing like nothing. And I do find myself like listening, listen, listening, like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You just gave us that's the truth, right, And the
truth is this is why you have to communicate, right,
But you have to communicate effectively, right, because.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You can't have two men. Ego is a man.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's why men have egos. Is that fair to say, Pete?
Men have egos?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean everybody has something, but I mean in
the relationship dynamic, I mean it's the issue is it's
like to me, women want to be led, but they
don't want to not they don't want to acknowledge that
there is a leader in the room and they're not it.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
I don't think that's necessarily always true. Now, there are
women that do need or think they need to lead.
I was one of them. I am not no, I
am no longer one of them. But I do know
a lot of women that I absolutely don't want to
lead shit. They absolutely are okay with the man leading
(01:47):
and doing and providing and doing everything.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
They are okay.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's not I'm sure they okay with somebody taking care
of them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
There's not a it's just taking okay with.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
The man taking care of her, not be okay minding
somebody right now. And because because of the connotation of
minding right like listening to somebody give you directions.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm good with that now. I just be like, hey,
don't go here, okay. But I think that also comes
with the trust in the relationship and who you're with.
And that's that's where I fucked up. I was dealing
with motherfuckers that I really didn't trust like that. And
that's that's the honest to god truth. Because if I
really trusted my man, I'm going to let him leave
me and he's going to tell when he tells me something,
I'm gonna be like, okay, babe, you're right, okay or whatever.
(02:34):
But before I was dealing motherfuckers, and I'm like, nigga,
you could do that, then why would I listen to you?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Would why would you sleep with anybody, you wouldn't listen
to it.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I know that that makes it, that sounds it makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
But yeah, you know when you say that. But these
are these are things that we were learning as we're growing.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It's like a man sleeping with somebody he doesn't want
you get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No, don't get it right. I stand in my ship.
I know what time it was.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
I knew, and it took me a while to understand
that because I'm dealing with you and my question like
the guy I told you can't get right, and you're like,
why the hell you call them? Why are you dealing
with Mike King? As I got older, yeah, I laugh
at it now, like why was I.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Dealing with this person?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Like what the hell was wrong with you? You saw
all the red flags? You something the game? The man
can't get right the niggas name is, can't get right
in your phone, like can't get literally not think like so.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And and that's that's where we have to learn to say,
you know what we can be by o women.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We don't need to you know, some women come from
a background where again they lead a poly relationship. They're
dating their ego and their men, and some women are
dating their ego, their man and their kids.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Mm hmm, yeah, I think that with with me, I
was I'm just so used to leading, like making decisions
and just kind of doing my own thing. At the
same time, It's like then I'm wondering, like, okay, well
(04:18):
what are you you know, what are you bringing to
the table, Like we can't talk on the same level
or we're not interested in the same things. But once
I realized, like, okay, you know, you got to take
this ego out of the relationship because you're you're not
a man, like you can't do or be anything close
(04:42):
to you know, what a man can be. And I
didn't want to be a woman, so.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, I disagree, you can you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm sure you and Briad have did the same things
that a man have done.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What I'm saying with the feeling as far as the
feeling that I want from somebody else, a man, a
woman can't give that to me, so unless I want
it to be by myself, I'm like, Okay, I gotta
but what is.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The feeling specifically? Is it to be cared for or
is it just the fact that he has a penis?
Biologically is different, you know what I'm saying, Like he
can the puzzle is different, and that's what these are. No,
but these is real questions, you know. I mean that
people need to ask.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I want to feel protected, like wow, So.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Then you know, and that's important right here to feel protected.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Guess what, like like your child, right, so like like
let's say Roland, right, like you have to Hey, he
can't like imagine you trying to protect him and he's
doing the things that you know could cause him danger.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's how it is being a man dealing with a woman.
So that's why sometimes men tone, especially when you're being
stubborn like a child, can take the form of talking
to a child, because that's what it starts to feel like.
And I'm sure for some women that's what it starts
to feel like.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
When a man starts to do the wrong thing, he.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Starts acting like your kid, definitely, yeah, And that's where.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That's when it goes like that's just like wait.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What Yes, and kids are kids.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The only reason they're kids is because they can't be
accountable for themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Like that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The problem is like I'll argue with friends who have
grown kids and I'm like they keep trying to treat
their kids like kids, right, they'll do whatever the kid
want them to do. But these kids are fucking because
they're nineteen or twenty. And I tell Mohmi, like, that's
not no kid, Like, they only plan you to take
care of them for them to make their own decisions.
(06:47):
So you gotta find a space in the middle, or
you're taking care of an adult that you're fucking dating. Right,
think about it, right, if your son, if your job
is to protect your son, britt, If like if he's
trying to go to a a Hoover party and you
know this is a Hoover party, Well, all the gang
members are there, and you know that other people know
they might come shoot it up, and your job is
(07:08):
taking me.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like, don't go to that party.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And he goes to that party, Guess what you're gonna
say to him when you figure out he was at
that party. You're Finnah, fly off the handle because you're
making my job hard of protection. Well, for women, they
should think of that the same way when they're talking
to a man, like if you want you don't want
to go somewhere Withcauz and you know somebody start to
put hands on you and he don't help you. But
(07:32):
if he tell you don't walk in his room with
all these fucking boxers and tripping ass drunk people and
your stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Ass walking, you're gonna get both are ass kid.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So women cannot date their own ego and a man
at the same time, a man like a man is
going to come with an ego because that's what he
needs to propel himself to the position to take care
of his family. That's what he should be using it for.
He should be using it to define his reputation. He
should be using it to define his credit, should be
using it to build this economic you know, portfolio is base.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What are you doing. That's the only thing that's good for.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So the ego not with with us with women, but
with everybody else or the outside bro because you know,
I think men sometimes they don't want to be well,
they don't want to be vulnerable because they want to
carry this ego. But we need to, you know, we
want to fill and see and you know know that
(08:29):
we can be there for you at those those vulnerable times,
you know, aside from God. But you know you don't
have to carry an ego with us all the time
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, yes, that they shouldn't be what you'd still do
because again you want somebody You're you're asking for women
to have this weird sense of demand.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They want a bunch of stuff that don't really go together.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Imagine your man like, well, I want to know you
could take care or yourself too, so I could take
care of you, So you should pay the mortgage every
other month. You wouldn't see it that way, right, So
that's how it feels like you're asking your man to
wanting to be hell of tough. But then he comes
crying to you because somebody you know at the ice
cream parlor.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I'm not talking about that though, because you don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's that deep.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Right, Well, we feel the same. We are the same, right,
Men and women are the same, right. We all feel
the same thing. We have extrogen, like y'all have testosterone,
So we feel certain certain things hurt our feelings that
probably are not worthy of you know, on the social
status of your feelings being hurt, but it's still hurts
your feelings. As I get older, certain scenes in movie
(09:40):
that I saw a million times could make me feel
like emotional as I get older, Like I might look
at like I watched last night. I watched, uh, what's
the movie with Will Smith when he was trying to
get the job in San Francisco Peak.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And he got the job. Almost cried.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I cried that So we have.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The same feelings, right, because it emotionally moved me. I
was like, damn, so happy.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Like it's a rap story.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But again it's like, so we have the same things,
but you ask us to use the testosterone driven emotions.
You ask that, but then sometimes you'll be like, well,
when you with me, you should let the estrogen no,
because then you ad judge later, you know what I mean?
Like you you know, he has these feelings and he
should be treated as us, just like I know. A
woman could take care of herself. I'm not stupid. I'm
(10:33):
not doing something that no woman couldn't.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do for herself.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
True, women take care of themself just fine. Women could
change a tire, change the engine, bench press waits.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
My mom had hands. Some woman could fight, you know,
women are construction workers. Women do the same thing men.
But you want to be put into a space where
you can lean on your estrogen. You want that space,
That's true? Right? Actually, great, no ceilings gl Pete was
(11:06):
heading just here for the convo, Red Red, what's haddening? Hey,
what's wrong? Pete? You I know, but I text you
a couple of times everything. Okay, I was taking a nap. Okay,
how's that? As you get older, naps are they important?
(11:31):
They can be. So I'm down forty five pounds, Pete.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Once I get to fifty pounds down, that's what I'm
gonna start bringing in my weight training. What I've been
thinking about is more like flyweights, like more calistatics like
push ups, pull ups, all of that stuff, not so
much weight. I don't really want to get a bunch
of muscles like I don't because I don't want to
(11:57):
be My goal was to not be heavy if I
make it to sure, So I want to be as
lean as possible right now. It ain't about the muscles,
it ain't about the look. It's just about the health part.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So but that was my point. So back to the
I digress. But that becomes the problem. So like sometimes
when you would complain, I would say, like, hey, you
are letting way too much ego rule. This part like
to be in a righteous situation because you have to
kind of remove that, like Yeah, he gonna be frustrated,
(12:36):
because this is how it is being a man when
you always like as a man, Like I'm only viewed
as a real man if I take care of somebody completely.
I'm not even viewed as a real man if I
pay half, like I'm viewed as a male because I
have a penis right, that's my initial thing. But I'm
not viewed as a man if I pay half. If
(12:57):
I go half with a woman, I'm not viewed as
a man who by society and even by your old lady,
she not don't respect you the same way. She's not
gonna treat you like you're leading anything.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You think. Do you think that? I mean, what do
you think.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Your son is a man right now? Do you think
he's a man he could make his own decisions? No,
because he don't take care of himself.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And that Nigga is a man. He probably bigger than you.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And everything is who your ass and all kind of shit,
change your tie and everything.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
There's a lot of men that go have with their girls,
I'm sure with step So would you say that that's
britt Would you say that's a man?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I don't think that. I don't think that that would
be less of a man. I don't think so. I've
never been in that situation, but I don't think I
would have been like, oh shit, you're not You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You respect, You would respect your man the same as yeah,
you're a lie.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
I'm so so what so I would take that away
because of something.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Imagine your men couldn't stand up for you if you're
in the street, somebody start.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's different.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's different different. You can't How is that different.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Protect and provide or how men are defined socially? Is
that fair to say protecting provided?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I would say so.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, but if you can't. We already had this discussion before.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I told you about how the dude I've watched get
carried away, and after that it was done though for me,
I told you about that because like, what the hell?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Which means as long as it can protect you, that
that's basically number one protecting you and then yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You just don't got great hands.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Damn, that's unfortunate. She ain't about to be with nobody.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So again, like, I do know that there's a lot
of men, some of my friends are in these same relationships,
but I also know how women treat them, you know
what I mean, It is kind of considered a slight
in society to go half with your old lady, even
though these California bills are insane stupid. So yes, but
(15:12):
I do think more women than not are making it work.
But again, the goal for women is to find somebody
who could take care of them and protect them. That's
their goal. That's the most successful women socially. Now again
the reality is something is different. Reality is a lot
of this shit is expensive, and it's not just gonna
be most guys gonna be able to do it, you know.
(15:34):
And me and Pete had a great conversation about this
where he was like, man, really you should move.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's saying out of the state or wherever.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Now you gotta move where we both agree you should
move to a place where you could take care of
your family as a man, right, because again it defines you.
It's not worthy of being anywhere where you can't look
up and say you're not putting a roof over your
family head. But again my perspective is not dominant, because
I understand if you ain't California even the thought of moving.
(16:04):
But Pete told me the story of how his family
moved out here because it was like that before that
where they was at it was a little tougher out here.
Was your grandfather was able to take care of his
family because it was cheaper.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, well it was.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It wasn't cost cheaper, but it was so much opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, there was more. It was more on the on
the income side.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I was for both sides of my family. I mean
that's why everybody like, like like your grandparents who moved
out here, it was the same thing. It wasn't like
what it was cheaper in La than Alabama. But it's
like everyone's getting paid out there. There's no economy. We
are here now, so we move either either move to avoid.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Costs or to pursue revenue. See, and that's like a
brilliant model that none.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Of nobody told us. Well, white people kind of are aware.
And I don't get me wrong. I do think the
generation above ours they were better humans. Like our generation
is worse humans. Even the generation now they feel like
they're but they're actually.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Much worse humans, you know what I mean? They because
they don't like I was talking to my nephew about.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The Diddy ship and he didn't even can he starts
saying just making it up, like, oh, you know he
put a hit out on the pocket. I'm like, do
you not care that that's not true? Like you care
that's not what they're not charged. Well, he slept with
some minors. Do you not care that that's not true?
They're not charging me with that?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like what part of a fact do you care about?
They don't.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They only care about whatever is going on socially within
the conversation that's social sphere is where they're convicting people
at Like the fans came out and said the the
fas talked about that, the surviving r Kelly.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It made the fast start to investigate.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Right, I did see something like that, and so this,
the cassielawsuit is what made them.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, really the the dude that the attorney that's on
social media heat and it's that's true because there you
gotta remember DA's case.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Looking for that type of exposure.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Definitely, But it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Reminds me of a time where like when the community
was kind of going through some stuff, we was coming
out of the crack era or kind of in the
very very last part of the Twilight of where it
was peaking at and you know, people were doing anything
to get cracks.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So crime in Los Angeles was a little rampant.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was a lot going on, and instead of the
community finding a solution, they turned to the white justice
system to find a solution. So hence Joe Biden and
certain people responded back with the Crime Bill right of
ninety four. Right, the instituted three strikes. And immediately when
you hear about how three strikes work, it's really a
double jeopardy law. It's like if you if you went
(18:54):
to jail for two felonies before, if you did this
and then you steal something, we're gonna put you in
prison for twenty five years to life. So at that time,
people thought they were doing the right thing because they
were so in their emotions.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's why.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
A buddy of mine's us on clubhouse. I met him
and I would call him a buddy. His name is Gary,
but from Atlanta. He was saying that like he felt
like the Black Church spearheaded that movement with Biden. And
now and again, whenever you turn to forgive me Pete,
because I don't mean every white person, but you know, right,
I'm talking about the power structure in existence. When you
(19:32):
turn to unjust people for justice, it's going to look
bad on people that's poor, that look like us, that
look like me.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right, So the same thing is happening now.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, they're like like again, like we're looking at r Kelly,
were looking at Puff and it kind of fits into
the same conversation even with Cassie, Like Cassie is like
they talked about it like and this is really I know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's the details.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
They tried to shake Puff down with the book, the
threat of the book to get the thirty million. Yeah right,
Puff felt it was a shakedown. I ain't gonna give
you nothing. Puff actually was in a relationship with Cassie.
Cassie stayed with Puff for years, not just out of fear.
I'm sure there's a level of fear there. She stayed
with Puff because Puff had money, right, He's powerful, he Puff.
(20:18):
She wanted to be successful in the music business. When
you look up her past, she's been trying to be
in a music business and kind of ahead of her
age for a long time, you know what I mean.
So she found somebody she thought could enhance her career,
and maybe they fell in love. Maybe they didn't, you know,
I don't know. I'm not an a personal relationship, but
they was together for years. You knew this nigga was
(20:39):
weird within the first probably six.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Months, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And not to call did he weird, but it's like
you knew he was a deviant for sure, within the
first six months, because I knew, didd he was a
devent before you dated him. So maybe he played it
all for a couple of months, but eventually the DV
inside came out, you could walk.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But then again, because she was looking for that level the.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Eighteen, sure she was.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But again that's the problem too.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's if you're gonna have a legal ramification of age
and responsibility and accountability eighteen, then it has to be eighteen.
It can't just be like, well, you know what, she
is fucking with that and he had money and she
was just young as stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No women gonna be like that till they fucking seventy,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But it's like, man, it just puts us in a
weird situation, like they're charging these two dudes with racketeering.
Harvey Weinstein actually was using his business as a racket.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And what does that mean when they say they're charging
them for racketeering.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So racketeering or Rego Act people talked about as a
law created in nineteen seventy. I think it's nineteen seventy.
So when they couldn't catch before nineteen seventy, America had
to catch you committing crimes. They had to charge you
with the crime that you committed. The mafia bosses or
the mob bosses who were organizing all of the crimes. Right,
(22:07):
the mafia bosses, the mob bosses who organized the crime,
they weren't actually out committing crimes. They couldn't prove that
they did a crime, but they knew it. They had
the power to organize and make a crime happen. So
they created a law which kind of conspiracy and all
these different things they all rooted in all of this
same idea. It's like thought into laws, thought into crime,
(22:28):
like the thought of crime. And that's how they started
taking down mafia's and mob bosses. And America probably should
have actually, America probably in nineteen seventy should.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Have stood up.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
The people should have stood up against that law because
that began the problem, right, like where you don't have
to catch nobody doing the crime. Now if I make
you do a crime, that's the crime. No, it's there's
accountability for adults. I can tell you to do whatever
the fuck I tell you to do. I could pay
you to do whatever I pay you to do. If
(23:00):
your ass do it, it's your fucking fault. But again
to you know, you avoiding accountability. And they did that
to take down the mafia and the mob bosses. And
you have to respect because, I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
They be in those situations where they can't say no.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You can always say no. You don't actually have to
be a protect.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean you can bet if you're gonna get killed
or you know what I'm saying, your family's gonna get hurt.
I'm not talking and I'm talking about with the mob
things like that.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, like, of course, nobody gonna hurt your family because
you can do what I said.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Who says who in the mom What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh no, it's that it's only a power Okay, that's
that's not.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Said, is not that's not how.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You There's intimidation, there's you know.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
But you can't be like being a coward should be
against the law. If somebody threatens your family, go to
the police because if you in the underworld. Are somebody
threatening your family, you know what you're supposed to do
if you in the underworld, you know, like if you don't,
if the law is not the ultimate sense of justice
(24:14):
and you have you know, your own sense of justice,
like the in the street underworld. If somebody threk in
your family, you're supposed to kill that person on the spot.
I don't give a fuck. If it's the greatest mid
boss in the world, cut his fucking head off. But
we gotta stop this weird law of making it okay
for people to be a bitch is crazy, Like, oh,
(24:35):
you could be a mark.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Somebody could mark you out and they call that coercion. No,
you was a mark. I was just talking about it
on Twitter with Gen Deal.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Gen Deal is running around like he's a hero because
he been talking about what Puff did.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Now Puff got arrested.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Nigga, he was paying you, doing it in front of you,
and you didn't do nothing to him. Now, and the
reason you didn't do nothing to Couzin is because you
was getting paid. The reason you doing these interviews talking
about cuz it's because you getting paid. Who is this
This is one of the main people that was working
for him. That was they call it an early whistleblower.
Puff was doing something bad. But it's like I couldn't
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be next to Birdman he was doing some buster ass shit.
If Birdman was next to me and he was you
know what I mean. Look, if Birdman was beating up
his old lady, I have stopped him.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Like if that's me and that's.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Birdman with his with Tony Braxton in that fucking elevator
video and Birdman, but I'm finna push stud hey, Stuna,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Come hold up? Bro? No, bro we finna get down now.
If I broke it up the first.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Time and then you still with this dude, I'm not
either gonna be around for sure, I'm gonna stop hanging
with y'all.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
If I don't leave from being around you, I ain't
finna watch you whip your old lady multiple times.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So even if like a gen deal saw that situation
happening with them and you broke it up and then.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
They kept doing it, now, I'm not finna be around y'all.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't be around nobody committing no crime. I don't
want to go to jail four, that's right. I don't
hang around nobody. Me and my big Homy got into
argument because he wanted to kill some taxi cab driver
for call him a nigger. And I'm like, nigga, everybody,
I'm not going to prison for that. They're not gonna
be like what you in jail for. Oh Man, the
Hommy knocked this nigga down. My Gammi Homy knocked this
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taxi cab driver down because he called him the N word.
And I'm not finna go to prison for that. And
I'm gonna get the rest of my life for that
dumb ass shit. No fuck that No, And that was
me as a kid. I'm not you can't. I don't
know fuck how tough you is. If something I don't
want to do, you ain't gonna make me do it.
Let alone take dick like some of the people in
that case, You're not gonna kill you, nigga.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Some people just don't have that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's not that some people don't see it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, some people just care about money. Yeah, and money
means everything.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's why puff this is happening.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
The reason you go buy them prostitutes is because prostitutes
are for sale.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
The reason you go buy people is because people are
for sale.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
The reason Gene Deal didn't actually do nothing to puff
or stop Puff when he was doing this, or you.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Know, as an ex probation officer go to.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The police is because he was bought and paid for it.
And I'm tired of people acting like the problem is
the people paying.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
The problem.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ain't the people paying the problem. Ain't people want to
have sex with a prostitute. The problem is the fucking
prostitute selling pussy for money. If there is a problem,
if there is a problem, like we could get to
the real problems.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Mm, yeah, that's naster. But then that said, I just
wouldn't have been around.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
And I'm like, there would be no pimps if there
was no prostitute.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Man. I mean, look at the end of the day,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
If they ain't no proud that's true. But then, well,
there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Of used bucks needs selling. You said, what, So there's
a lot of used buicks needs selling.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
A lot of used buicks that need to be sold.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
What's the coercion charge?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like, Well, from my understanding is that he had these parties. Yes,
people are coming to the parties, but they're not knowing
that the bottles are laced. They're drinking alcohol, but it
is laced and that there's cameras, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
They can't charge you for that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
You know why because people can have as many fucking
cameras in their house as they want.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
And you know what.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I have a friend who just went through a situation where, yeah,
they told her that this man can have his cameras
in his own house. Yeah the law, but the recording though,
that's not against the law without their consent.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
If you come in mind, what is the Okay, No,
I can't.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Fuck We'll just explain that part to her.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, So did these three charges? There's only three?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Right, There's racketeering, there's sex trafficking, there's traumputation for prostitutions.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yep, Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Now they're saying.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Those three indictments are built by these different crimes, right.
Coersion is how it is detailed in the indictment. Is like, well,
he would threaten to take people's finances away if they
didn't do what he said, Like he would fire people
if they didn't do what he said do. Okay, I'm like,
that's how job works. They're saying the racketeering charges. What
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they're saying is all alone the time over the last
since two thousand and eight, which they he really wasn't investigating,
but based off of what they've been able to figure
out what the witnesses since two thousand and eight different
crimes Puff has done home enterprises becomes like a criminal
underwel because they're blocking things. Prime example, when they got
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into the little squabble in the hotel because when the
somebody saw it, the the maid saw it and you know,
you know saw it. Instead of letting her call the
police or maybe she doesn't, Puff says, look, don't call
the police. I need to deal with this ourselves. I'm
gonna pay you. Can you get the video? I'll pay
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for that too, They saying. They combining that with that,
and they're saying, okay, because his team helped facilitate that
to some degree. I don't quite know what this team.
Then maybe they called after to get the video or whatever.
And then the next thing is like, okay, well he
blew up kid cutting cars. So they're talking about Arson, like, oh,
so they're making all of these crimes together to charge
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him like a crime boss, got it. That's when in reality,
that's not While the letter can fit, that's not the
spirit of it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You just talking about a really.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Nasty older man who has money and power, you know
what I mean, in a really turbulent relationship with women. Again,
his enterprise would be built off buying women. More like,
he don't have rate charges and he didn't force nobody
to do nothing, even like even if they're charging him
(31:34):
per se with Let's say.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh, people talk about the alcohol was lace.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
These are common things people knew going to Diddy parties,
Like you kind of knew that they party a little harder,
Like I knew that walking up, like they party harder.
So if I don't party as hard as them, I
probably don't need to be partying with them. So again,
but now in hindsight, and you know, it's like, oh
that's you know, that ain't right. But people knew that.
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People who went to Diddy's parties knew how did he party?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Did he is on? You know, he take drugs, he drinks.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But I don't think I don't think all the say
the young girls, because you know, you'll have somebody like, oh,
we're going to a party at Diddy's and then all
the you know.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
What that was, Well, the person that brought the part exactly,
that was.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
The person that because there's a lot of girls fresh
out of heights, very naive I'm going to Diddy's.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
House to party.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
They go to other people's house to party, so they're like,
I'm going to Diddy's house to party. Yes, we're going
to party. But then they end up the bottles are laced.
But the person who brought him, they know what's cracking,
or they should have known.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I have a young daughter and she you know what
I'm saying. She's just like, I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But we all, we've all since we were probably in
our he's been hearing about how Diddy parties.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
None of us have not heard how Diddy party.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But we're older, but we're since.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
In our twenties, we've been here about how Diddy party. Right,
all of us and.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Everybody's aspiration was to go to a Diddy party, knowing
it was crazy, because you.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Know, it's gonna be banana, it's gonna be a gang people.
It was gonna be the party though. But I didn't
think that.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I I didn't think that I was gonna go to
the party and get lace drinking some alcohol.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
That no, well, see, the only reason why I knew
about that. Told you was because I actually seen that,
not at Diddy's house, but at another Hollywood Hills home
where I actually seen them join it.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And I'm like, oh, this is you told me yep.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
And after that that's when I knew, like, Okay, this
is what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But had I not I think that happens.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Why would you go to Diddy's party and drink alcohol?
Why are you knowing your inhibition?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And see, this is where the questions get really hard.
They stopped being like lack of accountability. They stopped being like, oh,
you know, why the fuck would you go to a
strange house and drink alcohol?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Because when you go to a party, you're going to
a party, not every this. Okay, this is Diddy, so
I do know this person, but there's several parties that
we've been to that we don't We don't know whose house.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It is we're going to somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I mean, not now. But we're talking about younger, younger ages.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, you remember dating when you was younger? Yeah, you
know why men brought you liquor?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
And I wasn't drinking it with them, you know what
I'm saying. But you're going to a party, you're twenty one.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm not saying, why would you take awareness? And these
are real you're.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Going if they're if they have the liquor gy at
the bar and they're making drinks and this drink is late.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Even in a place where other people are You don't
really want me to ask the questions that I really
want to ask. You know why I don't drink red
because I don't never want to not know what the
fuck is going on. And you know why you drink
because you don't want to know what's going on. You
want to enhance whatever it is you want to feel.
And I'm not Look, I'm not trying to come down
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on the world that drinks or smoke weed or do
cocaine or or pop eggs. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying y'all have to start being honest with what
the goal is in the first place, of why you're
doing what you're doing, and then you can say, oh,
this is too far. I didn't want this particular thing
to happen. But this can only happen because you are
not in your mind, like why why are you I
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never drank nothing that nobody party because I always wanted
to be in.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Control and that's great, and those you know, everybody isn't mindful.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
So then again that's the accountability part that goes back
into the hole.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I get it, but where's the accountability for the person
that you know, what I'm saying is why are you
spiking Liquorsay? Everybody knows you want and even if he
wasn't want everybody so they can say the house.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes, because again you know how people feel about sex
and feel like, oh man, they feel special about themself. Look,
I'm not saying by no means again for the fourth,
for fifth, six seven podcasts, I am not saying that
I think Diddy is not He don't he don't have
things he should be charged with. But again there's a
lot of missing accountability that creates a mafia like figure
(36:25):
that don't make no sense. Like we have to go
to we have to get to a place in society
where people actually start to have accountabit. Why is him
and R Kelly the only rego charge were they're the
only two people charged. Every other rego charge they charge
a thousand other people. Why is only them charge? Why
is this the first reason? Why is R?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Kelly.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Why Wystein get charged with racketeon Weinstein was using his
business to actually rate women.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
He got charged with rape multiple times.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
He doesn't have a no.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Why the fuck did not a cousin get charged Epstein
he actually was actually running that type of business.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Puff is just nasty. He's a nasty old bastard.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
They got a bad drug problem and he's on alcohol
really bad. So he's making bad decisions. That's not John
Gotti's thing. That's not what John got John gotty sober
is the motherfucker making these decisions and he getting people killed.
Puff is just nasty and it's his way of to me.
This is kind of like I hear the term because
Puff considers himself a man of God, right, and.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I think in his heart he.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Feels that, but his mind is kind of a little different,
Like it's more stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Like people say, even in an indictment, they talk about.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
How to fact certain some of the pills you know,
Oh well, you know he used drugs to control people.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
He didn't stuff no drugs down people's mouth.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Like we got to eventually get back to a space
of accountability. That's the beginning of this conversation that we
even talking about where women want to date their ego
and a man, So then you got you know again,
you you you don't have space for the man. If
you got your ego, if you need to be a
proud human, a proud uh provider, and what you need
(38:16):
a man for, maybe you know, you could be like
Diddy and.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Just buy one, just.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Buy one, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's
just it's just frustrating. It's frustrating, you know. And then
the world is happening in front of the world and
on all levels, even from the beginning of this conversation,
where women are being taught to be like, oh, you
know from the independent songs like why would you have
to brag you take care of yourself?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I E and D E.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Why is that a good song? Like, there's no songs
like that for men? I pay my own bills. Well,
what is our song like that, I take care of myself.
That's I pay my own rent, I got my own car.
That's not a cool man a song.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Because it's it was always aspected for you guys to
do that.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
It was women weren't supposed to work.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well, women didn't work, and you know they weren't taking
care of themselves, so now.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You have to brag for being in a That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
They shouting it out from the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
To know what I'm saying, Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I take it it's equivalent to celebrating a birthday?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, like everybody has this is what?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah I'm not almost looking at me. Hey I didn't
die in the last year, look at me.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Well, we didn't always have that, So when when did
women not have jobs?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Should? All the women in my family always had jobs.
So I mean, I'm just you know, going back, I guess.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That's the job to that.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Equal pain and ship like, oh, you know what, we're
making all of them now we're making as much money. Okay, cool,
But you're bragging about the ability to take care of
yourself as an adult.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Even a term single moms, Like, I don't know what
that really means.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
What do you mean single mom?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
What the fuck is that you was fucking? That's how
you had a kid?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
She's a single mom. Single she's single.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Okay, yeah, she fucking she had a kid, but she's
a single daddy.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Not there title.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
All that shows is that you was fucking and you're
not with the nigga you was fusing. Okay, that's not
nothing to brag about the.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Term single mom.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
When you use the term failed wife.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Vibe what.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, it's just it's just we we we started maneuvering
society to a really weird space. I mean like it's
just really like I said, were men. You know, you're
not supposed to brag that you that's a flex when
you bragging that you know you take care of a woman.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's not a flex to say you take care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Wait, it's a flex when you're saying you take care
of a woman.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, you take care of your family. And that didn't
used to be a flex, But that's a flex now.
If you pay all the bills, that's a flex.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Oh for sure, y'all. I take care. I take care
of you.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
If a woman took care of a man, she is
considered a failure in society.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
You'd be liked.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Imagine you have to take care of that dude, like
you have to take care of him everything he do,
every dumb ass mistake he make. That's how I feel
every time you do some dumb shit. He wrecked his car,
you gotta fix it keep they cy on.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
When you go in and work, you gotta pay the bill.
That's how it is being a man.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
A woman is expecting you to take care of her,
no matter what silly mistakes she make.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
That's fright. Yeah, So sorry for y'all the.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I mean, it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I mean, it's just the society we live in. I
just don't want people to forget.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Well, if they didn't know, they know now it's you know,
you're taking care of.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Physical things, you know, stuff like that, but we're taking
care of the house.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Look, I think a whole household.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Don't get me wrong, I think I don't think a
woman don't pull her own way, even if a man
is paying all the bills.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's not about that.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
But if you don't have a true appreciation for that,
then you forget the gratitude portion of it.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I mean, I do think taking care of a house
is a ton of work.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I think washing and and making sure the kids and
all that is a ton of work.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I don't think it's a lack of respect for that work.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
But obviously you know the the work that's tough because
you don't you know the work.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I bet you you could find a man who would actually,
you know, he wouldn't mind ironing your clothes for you
to get up and go make all the money, and
he just get to sit at home and go get
his hair cut to look nice for you when he
come home and cook dinner. Still a different job. You
still wouldn't even if you you know, if Couz lost
his job and you and he making all the food,
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it might be cool for the first few months, you know,
I mean, you're like, damn, you know this ain't Then
eventually you're gonna look and you know, he left his
moon roof open, and now you gotta pay for his
interior and electronics get fixed. That shit gonna start to
come out. You're gonna be like, hold up.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Bro, have you ever watched I mean, did you ever
see mister mom?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I was just a second. Wasn't there a movie called
Decades Ago?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
As basically she wasn't feeling it after a while, was
like it was reverse.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
The man had to stay home the woman, and he
got laid he got furloughed, and the woman ended up
getting a job in advertising, so she started going to
work every day.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
She was a stay at home. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
So he he was like fucking up shit, like fucked
up the washing machine, all kinds of stuff. It was
funny though, like he messed up like how to take
them to school, like he was all lost and stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
No looten any So so I do think there is
a lesson that men need to know for women who
actually take care of the house, Like there definitely needs
to be a real gratitude because I ain't no pump
cooking and cleaning and shit and caring for children on
the consistent.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
But that's tough.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
But it got to be an appreciation. And that's the point.
It needs to be gratitude. It's not enough gratitude, you know,
Like imagine you making some food, nigga telling you like, yeah,
I could cook my own food.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That shit would make you feel like.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Oh yeah, well yeah, especially made.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
This food or you supposed to.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Cook the food, right, oh yeah no, And that becomes
your attitude.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Who So you gotta define it in yourself. That's the trick.
You have to define it in yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Take the ego out.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Women definitely don't need pride or ego in a in
a in a and while they're dating a man. You
need pride of ego if you're taking care of yourself.
I mean, you definitely need it when you're taking care
of yourself, but you don't need it if you have
a man taking care of you that that ain't gonna.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Work for you. But both people do need gratitude.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I agree with that, Like that's I think there's men
who don't really have the right gratuitous attitude towards the
old lady for you know, carrying that, you know, turning
the house into a home. That's just to maintaining a
home and some shit maintaining a home and some ship.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
It's not no pump m h.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yes, I agree,
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yes, baby, what you need?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What you need, daddy, Like okay, you know, and it's been.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
We've been like we've been like good, like of course, yeah,
we're gonna get into a little like a but it's
it's nothing like nothing. And I do find myself like listening, listen, listening, like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You just gave us that's the truth, right, And the
truth is this is why you have to communicate, right,
But you have to communicate effectively, right, because.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You can't have two men. Ego is a man.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's why men have egos. Is that fair to say, Pete?
Men have egos?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah, I mean everybody has something, but I mean in
the relationship dynamic, I mean it's the issue is it's
like to me, women want to be led, but they
don't want to not they don't want to acknowledge that
there is a leader in the room and they're not it.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
I don't think that's necessarily always true. Now, there are
women that do need or think they need to lead.
I was one of them. I am not no, I
am no longer one of them. But I do know
a lot of women that I absolutely don't want to
lead shit. They absolutely are okay with the man leading
(01:47):
and doing and providing and doing everything.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
They are okay.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That's not I'm sure they okay with somebody taking care
of them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
There's not a it's just taking okay with.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
The man taking care of her, not be okay minding
somebody right now. And because because of the connotation of
minding right like listening to somebody give you directions.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm good with that now. I just be like, hey,
don't go here, okay. But I think that also comes
with the trust in the relationship and who you're with.
And that's that's where I fucked up. I was dealing
with motherfuckers that I really didn't trust like that. And
that's that's the honest to god truth. Because if I
really trusted my man, I'm going to let him leave
me and he's going to tell when he tells me something,
I'm gonna be like, okay, babe, you're right, okay or whatever.
(02:34):
But before I was dealing motherfuckers, and I'm like, nigga,
you could do that, then why would I listen to you?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Would why would you sleep with anybody, you wouldn't listen
to it.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I know that that makes it, that sounds it makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
But yeah, you know when you say that. But these
are these are things that we were learning as we're growing.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It's like a man sleeping with somebody he doesn't want
you get pregnant.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
No, don't get it right. I stand in my ship.
I know what time it was.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
I knew, and it took me a while to understand
that because I'm dealing with you and my question like
the guy I told you can't get right, and you're like,
why the hell you call them? Why are you dealing
with Mike King? As I got older, yeah, I laugh
at it now, like why was I.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Dealing with this person?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Like what the hell was wrong with you? You saw
all the red flags? You something the game? The man
can't get right the niggas name is, can't get right
in your phone, like can't get literally not think like so.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And and that's that's where we have to learn to say,
you know what we can be by o women.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
We don't need to you know, some women come from
a background where again they lead a poly relationship. They're
dating their ego and their men, and some women are
dating their ego, their man and their kids.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Mm hmm, yeah, I think that with with me, I
was I'm just so used to leading, like making decisions
and just kind of doing my own thing. At the
same time, It's like then I'm wondering, like, okay, well
(04:18):
what are you you know, what are you bringing to
the table, Like we can't talk on the same level
or we're not interested in the same things. But once
I realized, like, okay, you know, you got to take
this ego out of the relationship because you're you're not
a man, like you can't do or be anything close
(04:42):
to you know, what a man can be. And I
didn't want to be a woman, so.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well, I disagree, you can you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm sure you and Briad have did the same things
that a man have done.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
What I'm saying with the feeling as far as the
feeling that I want from somebody else, a man, a
woman can't give that to me, so unless I want
it to be by myself, I'm like, Okay, I gotta
but what is.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
The feeling specifically? Is it to be cared for or
is it just the fact that he has a penis?
Biologically is different, you know what I'm saying, Like he
can the puzzle is different, and that's what these are. No,
but these is real questions, you know. I mean that
people need to ask.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I want to feel protected, like wow, So.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Then you know, and that's important right here to feel protected.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Guess what, like like your child, right, so like like
let's say Roland, right, like you have to Hey, he
can't like imagine you trying to protect him and he's
doing the things that you know could cause him danger.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's how it is being a man dealing with a woman.
So that's why sometimes men tone, especially when you're being
stubborn like a child, can take the form of talking
to a child, because that's what it starts to feel like.
And I'm sure for some women that's what it starts
to feel like.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
When a man starts to do the wrong thing, he.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Starts acting like your kid, definitely, yeah, And that's where.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That's when it goes like that's just like wait.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What Yes, and kids are kids.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The only reason they're kids is because they can't be
accountable for themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Like that's the problem.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
The problem is like I'll argue with friends who have
grown kids and I'm like they keep trying to treat
their kids like kids, right, they'll do whatever the kid
want them to do. But these kids are fucking because
they're nineteen or twenty. And I tell Mohmi, like, that's
not no kid, Like, they only plan you to take
care of them for them to make their own decisions.
(06:47):
So you gotta find a space in the middle, or
you're taking care of an adult that you're fucking dating. Right,
think about it, right, if your son, if your job
is to protect your son, britt, If like if he's
trying to go to a a Hoover party and you
know this is a Hoover party, Well, all the gang
members are there, and you know that other people know
they might come shoot it up, and your job is
(07:08):
taking me.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Like, don't go to that party.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And he goes to that party, Guess what you're gonna
say to him when you figure out he was at
that party. You're Finnah, fly off the handle because you're
making my job hard of protection. Well, for women, they
should think of that the same way when they're talking
to a man, like if you want you don't want
to go somewhere Withcauz and you know somebody start to
put hands on you and he don't help you. But
(07:32):
if he tell you don't walk in his room with
all these fucking boxers and tripping ass drunk people and
your stupid.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Ass walking, you're gonna get both are ass kid.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
So women cannot date their own ego and a man
at the same time, a man like a man is
going to come with an ego because that's what he
needs to propel himself to the position to take care
of his family. That's what he should be using it for.
He should be using it to define his reputation. He
should be using it to define his credit, should be
using it to build this economic you know, portfolio is base.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What are you doing. That's the only thing that's good for.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
So the ego not with with us with women, but
with everybody else or the outside bro because you know,
I think men sometimes they don't want to be well,
they don't want to be vulnerable because they want to
carry this ego. But we need to, you know, we
want to fill and see and you know know that
(08:29):
we can be there for you at those those vulnerable times,
you know, aside from God. But you know you don't
have to carry an ego with us all the time
you know.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Well, yes, that they shouldn't be what you'd still do
because again you want somebody You're you're asking for women
to have this weird sense of demand.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
They want a bunch of stuff that don't really go together.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Imagine your man like, well, I want to know you
could take care or yourself too, so I could take
care of you, So you should pay the mortgage every
other month. You wouldn't see it that way, right, So
that's how it feels like you're asking your man to
wanting to be hell of tough. But then he comes
crying to you because somebody you know at the ice
cream parlor.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I'm not talking about that though, because you don't think.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It's that deep.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Right, Well, we feel the same. We are the same, right,
Men and women are the same, right. We all feel
the same thing. We have extrogen, like y'all have testosterone,
So we feel certain certain things hurt our feelings that
probably are not worthy of you know, on the social
status of your feelings being hurt, but it's still hurts
your feelings. As I get older, certain scenes in movie
(09:40):
that I saw a million times could make me feel
like emotional as I get older, Like I might look
at like I watched last night. I watched, uh, what's
the movie with Will Smith when he was trying to
get the job in San Francisco Peak.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And he got the job. Almost cried.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I cried that So we have.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The same feelings, right, because it emotionally moved me. I
was like, damn, so happy.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Like it's a rap story.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But again it's like, so we have the same things,
but you ask us to use the testosterone driven emotions.
You ask that, but then sometimes you'll be like, well,
when you with me, you should let the estrogen no,
because then you ad judge later, you know what I mean?
Like you you know, he has these feelings and he
should be treated as us, just like I know. A
woman could take care of herself. I'm not stupid. I'm
(10:33):
not doing something that no woman couldn't.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do for herself.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
True, women take care of themself just fine. Women could
change a tire, change the engine, bench press waits.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
My mom had hands. Some woman could fight, you know,
women are construction workers. Women do the same thing men.
But you want to be put into a space where
you can lean on your estrogen. You want that space,
That's true? Right? Actually, great, no ceilings gl Pete was
(11:06):
heading just here for the convo, Red Red, what's haddening? Hey,
what's wrong? Pete? You I know, but I text you
a couple of times everything. Okay, I was taking a nap. Okay,
how's that? As you get older, naps are they important?
(11:31):
They can be. So I'm down forty five pounds, Pete.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Once I get to fifty pounds down, that's what I'm
gonna start bringing in my weight training. What I've been
thinking about is more like flyweights, like more calistatics like
push ups, pull ups, all of that stuff, not so
much weight. I don't really want to get a bunch
of muscles like I don't because I don't want to
(11:57):
be My goal was to not be heavy if I
make it to sure, So I want to be as
lean as possible right now. It ain't about the muscles,
it ain't about the look. It's just about the health part.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So but that was my point. So back to the
I digress. But that becomes the problem. So like sometimes
when you would complain, I would say, like, hey, you
are letting way too much ego rule. This part like
to be in a righteous situation because you have to
kind of remove that, like Yeah, he gonna be frustrated,
(12:36):
because this is how it is being a man when
you always like as a man, Like I'm only viewed
as a real man if I take care of somebody completely.
I'm not even viewed as a real man if I
pay half, like I'm viewed as a male because I
have a penis right, that's my initial thing. But I'm
not viewed as a man if I pay half. If
(12:57):
I go half with a woman, I'm not viewed as
a man who by society and even by your old lady,
she not don't respect you the same way. She's not
gonna treat you like you're leading anything.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
You think. Do you think that? I mean, what do
you think.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Your son is a man right now? Do you think
he's a man he could make his own decisions? No,
because he don't take care of himself.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And that Nigga is a man. He probably bigger than you.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And everything is who your ass and all kind of shit,
change your tie and everything.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
There's a lot of men that go have with their girls,
I'm sure with step So would you say that that's
britt Would you say that's a man?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I don't think that. I don't think that that would
be less of a man. I don't think so. I've
never been in that situation, but I don't think I
would have been like, oh shit, you're not You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
You respect, You would respect your man the same as yeah,
you're a lie.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
I'm so so what so I would take that away
because of something.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Imagine your men couldn't stand up for you if you're
in the street, somebody start.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's different.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That's different different. You can't How is that different.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Protect and provide or how men are defined socially? Is
that fair to say protecting provided?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I would say so.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, but if you can't. We already had this discussion before.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I told you about how the dude I've watched get
carried away, and after that it was done though for me,
I told you about that because like, what the hell?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Which means as long as it can protect you, that
that's basically number one protecting you and then yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
You just don't got great hands.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Damn, that's unfortunate. She ain't about to be with nobody.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So again, like, I do know that there's a lot
of men, some of my friends are in these same relationships,
but I also know how women treat them, you know
what I mean, It is kind of considered a slight
in society to go half with your old lady, even
though these California bills are insane stupid. So yes, but
(15:12):
I do think more women than not are making it work.
But again, the goal for women is to find somebody
who could take care of them and protect them. That's
their goal. That's the most successful women socially. Now again
the reality is something is different. Reality is a lot
of this shit is expensive, and it's not just gonna
be most guys gonna be able to do it, you know.
(15:34):
And me and Pete had a great conversation about this
where he was like, man, really you should move.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
He's saying out of the state or wherever.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Now you gotta move where we both agree you should
move to a place where you could take care of
your family as a man, right, because again it defines you.
It's not worthy of being anywhere where you can't look
up and say you're not putting a roof over your
family head. But again my perspective is not dominant, because
I understand if you ain't California even the thought of moving.
(16:04):
But Pete told me the story of how his family
moved out here because it was like that before that
where they was at it was a little tougher out here.
Was your grandfather was able to take care of his
family because it was cheaper.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, well it was.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It wasn't cost cheaper, but it was so much opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, there was more. It was more on the on
the income side.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I was for both sides of my family. I mean
that's why everybody like, like like your grandparents who moved
out here, it was the same thing. It wasn't like
what it was cheaper in La than Alabama. But it's
like everyone's getting paid out there. There's no economy. We
are here now, so we move either either move to avoid.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Costs or to pursue revenue. See, and that's like a
brilliant model that none.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Of nobody told us. Well, white people kind of are aware.
And I don't get me wrong. I do think the
generation above ours they were better humans. Like our generation
is worse humans. Even the generation now they feel like
they're but they're actually.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Much worse humans, you know what I mean? They because
they don't like I was talking to my nephew about.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The Diddy ship and he didn't even can he starts
saying just making it up, like, oh, you know he
put a hit out on the pocket. I'm like, do
you not care that that's not true? Like you care
that's not what they're not charged. Well, he slept with
some minors. Do you not care that that's not true?
They're not charging me with that?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Like what part of a fact do you care about?
They don't.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They only care about whatever is going on socially within
the conversation that's social sphere is where they're convicting people
at Like the fans came out and said the the
fas talked about that, the surviving r Kelly.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
It made the fast start to investigate.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Right, I did see something like that, and so this,
the cassielawsuit is what made them.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yes, really the the dude that the attorney that's on
social media heat and it's that's true because there you
gotta remember DA's case.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Looking for that type of exposure.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Definitely, But it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Reminds me of a time where like when the community
was kind of going through some stuff, we was coming
out of the crack era or kind of in the
very very last part of the Twilight of where it
was peaking at and you know, people were doing anything
to get cracks.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So crime in Los Angeles was a little rampant.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was a lot going on, and instead of the
community finding a solution, they turned to the white justice
system to find a solution. So hence Joe Biden and
certain people responded back with the Crime Bill right of
ninety four. Right, the instituted three strikes. And immediately when
you hear about how three strikes work, it's really a
double jeopardy law. It's like if you if you went
(18:54):
to jail for two felonies before, if you did this
and then you steal something, we're gonna put you in
prison for twenty five years to life. So at that time,
people thought they were doing the right thing because they
were so in their emotions.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's why.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
A buddy of mine's us on clubhouse. I met him
and I would call him a buddy. His name is Gary,
but from Atlanta. He was saying that like he felt
like the Black Church spearheaded that movement with Biden. And
now and again, whenever you turn to forgive me Pete,
because I don't mean every white person, but you know, right,
I'm talking about the power structure in existence. When you
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turn to unjust people for justice, it's going to look
bad on people that's poor, that look like us, that
look like me.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right, So the same thing is happening now.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, they're like like again, like we're looking at r Kelly,
were looking at Puff and it kind of fits into
the same conversation even with Cassie, Like Cassie is like
they talked about it like and this is really I know.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
That's the details.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
They tried to shake Puff down with the book, the
threat of the book to get the thirty million. Yeah right,
Puff felt it was a shakedown. I ain't gonna give
you nothing. Puff actually was in a relationship with Cassie.
Cassie stayed with Puff for years, not just out of fear.
I'm sure there's a level of fear there. She stayed
with Puff because Puff had money, right, He's powerful, he Puff.
(20:18):
She wanted to be successful in the music business. When
you look up her past, she's been trying to be
in a music business and kind of ahead of her
age for a long time, you know what I mean.
So she found somebody she thought could enhance her career,
and maybe they fell in love. Maybe they didn't, you know,
I don't know. I'm not an a personal relationship, but
they was together for years. You knew this nigga was
(20:39):
weird within the first probably six.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Months, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And not to call did he weird, but it's like
you knew he was a deviant for sure, within the
first six months, because I knew, didd he was a
devent before you dated him. So maybe he played it
all for a couple of months, but eventually the DV
inside came out, you could walk.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
But then again, because she was looking for that level the.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Eighteen, sure she was.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But again that's the problem too.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's if you're gonna have a legal ramification of age
and responsibility and accountability eighteen, then it has to be eighteen.
It can't just be like, well, you know what, she
is fucking with that and he had money and she
was just young as stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No women gonna be like that till they fucking seventy,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
But it's like, man, it just puts us in a
weird situation, like they're charging these two dudes with racketeering.
Harvey Weinstein actually was using his business as a racket.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And what does that mean when they say they're charging
them for racketeering.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So racketeering or Rego Act people talked about as a
law created in nineteen seventy. I think it's nineteen seventy.
So when they couldn't catch before nineteen seventy, America had
to catch you committing crimes. They had to charge you
with the crime that you committed. The mafia bosses or
the mob bosses who were organizing all of the crimes. Right,
(22:07):
the mafia bosses, the mob bosses who organized the crime,
they weren't actually out committing crimes. They couldn't prove that
they did a crime, but they knew it. They had
the power to organize and make a crime happen. So
they created a law which kind of conspiracy and all
these different things they all rooted in all of this
same idea. It's like thought into laws, thought into crime,
(22:28):
like the thought of crime. And that's how they started
taking down mafia's and mob bosses. And America probably should
have actually, America probably in nineteen seventy should.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Have stood up.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
The people should have stood up against that law because
that began the problem, right, like where you don't have
to catch nobody doing the crime. Now if I make
you do a crime, that's the crime. No, it's there's
accountability for adults. I can tell you to do whatever
the fuck I tell you to do. I could pay
you to do whatever I pay you to do. If
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your ass do it, it's your fucking fault. But again
to you know, you avoiding accountability. And they did that
to take down the mafia and the mob bosses. And
you have to respect because, I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
They be in those situations where they can't say no.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
You can always say no. You don't actually have to
be a protect.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I mean you can bet if you're gonna get killed
or you know what I'm saying, your family's gonna get hurt.
I'm not talking and I'm talking about with the mob
things like that.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, like, of course, nobody gonna hurt your family because
you can do what I said.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Who says who in the mom What are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh no, it's that it's only a power Okay, that's
that's not.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Said, is not that's not how.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
You There's intimidation, there's you know.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
But you can't be like being a coward should be
against the law. If somebody threatens your family, go to
the police because if you in the underworld. Are somebody
threatening your family, you know what you're supposed to do
if you in the underworld, you know, like if you don't,
if the law is not the ultimate sense of justice
(24:14):
and you have you know, your own sense of justice,
like the in the street underworld. If somebody threk in
your family, you're supposed to kill that person on the spot.
I don't give a fuck. If it's the greatest mid
boss in the world, cut his fucking head off. But
we gotta stop this weird law of making it okay
for people to be a bitch is crazy, Like, oh,
(24:35):
you could be a mark.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Somebody could mark you out and they call that coercion. No,
you was a mark. I was just talking about it
on Twitter with Gen Deal.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Gen Deal is running around like he's a hero because
he been talking about what Puff did.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Now Puff got arrested.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Nigga, he was paying you, doing it in front of you,
and you didn't do nothing to him. Now, and the
reason you didn't do nothing to Couzin is because you
was getting paid. The reason you doing these interviews talking
about cuz it's because you getting paid. Who is this
This is one of the main people that was working
for him. That was they call it an early whistleblower.
Puff was doing something bad. But it's like I couldn't
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be next to Birdman he was doing some buster ass shit.
If Birdman was next to me and he was you
know what I mean. Look, if Birdman was beating up
his old lady, I have stopped him.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Like if that's me and that's.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Birdman with his with Tony Braxton in that fucking elevator
video and Birdman, but I'm finna push stud hey, Stuna,
what's up?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Come hold up? Bro? No, bro we finna get down now.
If I broke it up the first.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Time and then you still with this dude, I'm not
either gonna be around for sure, I'm gonna stop hanging
with y'all.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
If I don't leave from being around you, I ain't
finna watch you whip your old lady multiple times.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So even if like a gen deal saw that situation
happening with them and you broke it up and then.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
They kept doing it, now, I'm not finna be around y'all.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't be around nobody committing no crime. I don't
want to go to jail four, that's right. I don't
hang around nobody. Me and my big Homy got into
argument because he wanted to kill some taxi cab driver
for call him a nigger. And I'm like, nigga, everybody,
I'm not going to prison for that. They're not gonna
be like what you in jail for. Oh Man, the
Hommy knocked this nigga down. My Gammi Homy knocked this
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taxi cab driver down because he called him the N word.
And I'm not finna go to prison for that. And
I'm gonna get the rest of my life for that
dumb ass shit. No fuck that No, And that was
me as a kid. I'm not you can't. I don't
know fuck how tough you is. If something I don't
want to do, you ain't gonna make me do it.
Let alone take dick like some of the people in
that case, You're not gonna kill you, nigga.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Some people just don't have that.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's not that some people don't see it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, some people just care about money. Yeah, and money
means everything.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's why puff this is happening.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
The reason you go buy them prostitutes is because prostitutes
are for sale.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
The reason you go buy people is because people are
for sale.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
The reason Gene Deal didn't actually do nothing to puff
or stop Puff when he was doing this, or you.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Know, as an ex probation officer go to.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The police is because he was bought and paid for it.
And I'm tired of people acting like the problem is
the people paying.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
The problem.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Ain't the people paying the problem. Ain't people want to
have sex with a prostitute. The problem is the fucking
prostitute selling pussy for money. If there is a problem,
if there is a problem, like we could get to
the real problems.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Mm, yeah, that's naster. But then that said, I just
wouldn't have been around.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
And I'm like, there would be no pimps if there
was no prostitute.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Man. I mean, look at the end of the day,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
If they ain't no proud that's true. But then, well,
there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Of used bucks needs selling. You said, what, So there's
a lot of used buicks needs selling.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
A lot of used buicks that need to be sold.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
What's the coercion charge?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Like, Well, from my understanding is that he had these parties. Yes,
people are coming to the parties, but they're not knowing
that the bottles are laced. They're drinking alcohol, but it
is laced and that there's cameras, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
They can't charge you for that.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
You know why because people can have as many fucking
cameras in their house as they want.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
And you know what.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I have a friend who just went through a situation where, yeah,
they told her that this man can have his cameras
in his own house. Yeah the law, but the recording though,
that's not against the law without their consent.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
If you come in mind, what is the Okay, No,
I can't.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Fuck We'll just explain that part to her.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, So did these three charges? There's only three?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Right, There's racketeering, there's sex trafficking, there's traumputation for prostitutions.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yep, Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Now they're saying.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Those three indictments are built by these different crimes, right.
Coersion is how it is detailed in the indictment. Is like, well,
he would threaten to take people's finances away if they
didn't do what he said, Like he would fire people
if they didn't do what he said do. Okay, I'm like,
that's how job works. They're saying the racketeering charges. What
(29:54):
they're saying is all alone the time over the last
since two thousand and eight, which they he really wasn't investigating,
but based off of what they've been able to figure
out what the witnesses since two thousand and eight different
crimes Puff has done home enterprises becomes like a criminal
underwel because they're blocking things. Prime example, when they got
(30:18):
into the little squabble in the hotel because when the
somebody saw it, the the maid saw it and you know,
you know saw it. Instead of letting her call the
police or maybe she doesn't, Puff says, look, don't call
the police. I need to deal with this ourselves. I'm
gonna pay you. Can you get the video? I'll pay
(30:40):
for that too, They saying. They combining that with that,
and they're saying, okay, because his team helped facilitate that
to some degree. I don't quite know what this team.
Then maybe they called after to get the video or whatever.
And then the next thing is like, okay, well he
blew up kid cutting cars. So they're talking about Arson, like, oh,
so they're making all of these crimes together to charge
(31:02):
him like a crime boss, got it. That's when in reality,
that's not While the letter can fit, that's not the
spirit of it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You just talking about a really.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Nasty older man who has money and power, you know
what I mean, in a really turbulent relationship with women. Again,
his enterprise would be built off buying women. More like,
he don't have rate charges and he didn't force nobody
to do nothing, even like even if they're charging him
(31:34):
per se with Let's say.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh, people talk about the alcohol was lace.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
These are common things people knew going to Diddy parties,
Like you kind of knew that they party a little harder,
Like I knew that walking up, like they party harder.
So if I don't party as hard as them, I
probably don't need to be partying with them. So again,
but now in hindsight, and you know, it's like, oh
that's you know, that ain't right. But people knew that.
(32:00):
People who went to Diddy's parties knew how did he party?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Did he is on? You know, he take drugs, he drinks.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But I don't think I don't think all the say
the young girls, because you know, you'll have somebody like, oh,
we're going to a party at Diddy's and then all
the you know.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
What that was, Well, the person that brought the part exactly,
that was.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
The person that because there's a lot of girls fresh
out of heights, very naive I'm going to Diddy's.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
House to party.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
They go to other people's house to party, so they're like,
I'm going to Diddy's house to party. Yes, we're going
to party. But then they end up the bottles are laced.
But the person who brought him, they know what's cracking,
or they should have known.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It's a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I have a young daughter and she you know what
I'm saying. She's just like, I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
But we all, we've all since we were probably in
our he's been hearing about how Diddy parties.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
None of us have not heard how Diddy party.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
But we're older, but we're since.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
In our twenties, we've been here about how Diddy party. Right,
all of us and.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Everybody's aspiration was to go to a Diddy party, knowing
it was crazy, because you.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Know, it's gonna be banana, it's gonna be a gang people.
It was gonna be the party though. But I didn't
think that.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I I didn't think that I was gonna go to
the party and get lace drinking some alcohol.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
That no, well, see, the only reason why I knew
about that. Told you was because I actually seen that,
not at Diddy's house, but at another Hollywood Hills home
where I actually seen them join it.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
And I'm like, oh, this is you told me yep.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
And after that that's when I knew, like, Okay, this
is what's really going on.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
But had I not I think that happens.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Why would you go to Diddy's party and drink alcohol?
Why are you knowing your inhibition?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
And see, this is where the questions get really hard.
They stopped being like lack of accountability. They stopped being like, oh,
you know, why the fuck would you go to a
strange house and drink alcohol?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Because when you go to a party, you're going to
a party, not every this. Okay, this is Diddy, so
I do know this person, but there's several parties that
we've been to that we don't We don't know whose house.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It is we're going to somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I mean, not now. But we're talking about younger, younger ages.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Okay, you remember dating when you was younger? Yeah, you
know why men brought you liquor?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
And I wasn't drinking it with them, you know what
I'm saying. But you're going to a party, you're twenty one.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm not saying, why would you take awareness? And these
are real you're.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Going if they're if they have the liquor gy at
the bar and they're making drinks and this drink is late.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Even in a place where other people are You don't
really want me to ask the questions that I really
want to ask. You know why I don't drink red
because I don't never want to not know what the
fuck is going on. And you know why you drink
because you don't want to know what's going on. You
want to enhance whatever it is you want to feel.
And I'm not Look, I'm not trying to come down
(35:08):
on the world that drinks or smoke weed or do
cocaine or or pop eggs. That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying y'all have to start being honest with what
the goal is in the first place, of why you're
doing what you're doing, and then you can say, oh,
this is too far. I didn't want this particular thing
to happen. But this can only happen because you are
not in your mind, like why why are you I
(35:31):
never drank nothing that nobody party because I always wanted
to be in.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Control and that's great, and those you know, everybody isn't mindful.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
So then again that's the accountability part that goes back
into the hole.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I get it, but where's the accountability for the person
that you know, what I'm saying is why are you
spiking Liquorsay? Everybody knows you want and even if he
wasn't want everybody so they can say the house.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yes, because again you know how people feel about sex
and feel like, oh man, they feel special about themself. Look,
I'm not saying by no means again for the fourth,
for fifth, six seven podcasts, I am not saying that
I think Diddy is not He don't he don't have
things he should be charged with. But again there's a
lot of missing accountability that creates a mafia like figure
(36:25):
that don't make no sense. Like we have to go
to we have to get to a place in society
where people actually start to have accountabit. Why is him
and R Kelly the only rego charge were they're the
only two people charged. Every other rego charge they charge
a thousand other people. Why is only them charge? Why
is this the first reason? Why is R?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Kelly.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Why Wystein get charged with racketeon Weinstein was using his
business to actually rate women.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
He got charged with rape multiple times.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
He doesn't have a no.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Why the fuck did not a cousin get charged Epstein
he actually was actually running that type of business.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Puff is just nasty. He's a nasty old bastard.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
They got a bad drug problem and he's on alcohol
really bad. So he's making bad decisions. That's not John
Gotti's thing. That's not what John got John gotty sober
is the motherfucker making these decisions and he getting people killed.
Puff is just nasty and it's his way of to me.
This is kind of like I hear the term because
Puff considers himself a man of God, right, and.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I think in his heart he.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Feels that, but his mind is kind of a little different,
Like it's more stuff going on.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Like people say, even in an indictment, they talk about.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
How to fact certain some of the pills you know,
Oh well, you know he used drugs to control people.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
He didn't stuff no drugs down people's mouth.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Like we got to eventually get back to a space
of accountability. That's the beginning of this conversation that we
even talking about where women want to date their ego
and a man, So then you got you know again,
you you you don't have space for the man. If
you got your ego, if you need to be a
proud human, a proud uh provider, and what you need
(38:16):
a man for, maybe you know, you could be like
Diddy and.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Just buy one, just.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Buy one, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's
just it's just frustrating. It's frustrating, you know. And then
the world is happening in front of the world and
on all levels, even from the beginning of this conversation,
where women are being taught to be like, oh, you
know from the independent songs like why would you have
to brag you take care of yourself?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I E and D E.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Why is that a good song? Like, there's no songs
like that for men? I pay my own bills. Well,
what is our song like that, I take care of myself.
That's I pay my own rent, I got my own car.
That's not a cool man a song.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Because it's it was always aspected for you guys to
do that.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
It was women weren't supposed to work.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well, women didn't work, and you know they weren't taking
care of themselves, so now.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You have to brag for being in a That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
They shouting it out from the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
To know what I'm saying, Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I take it it's equivalent to celebrating a birthday?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, like everybody has this is what?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah I'm not almost looking at me. Hey I didn't
die in the last year, look at me.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Well, we didn't always have that, So when when did
women not have jobs?
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Should? All the women in my family always had jobs.
So I mean, I'm just you know, going back, I guess.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That's the job to that.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Equal pain and ship like, oh, you know what, we're
making all of them now we're making as much money. Okay, cool,
But you're bragging about the ability to take care of
yourself as an adult.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Even a term single moms, Like, I don't know what
that really means.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
What do you mean single mom?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
What the fuck is that you was fucking? That's how
you had a kid?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
She's a single mom. Single she's single.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Okay, yeah, she fucking she had a kid, but she's
a single daddy.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Not there title.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
All that shows is that you was fucking and you're
not with the nigga you was fusing. Okay, that's not
nothing to brag about the.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Term single mom.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
When you use the term failed wife.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Vibe what.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Oh man?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, it's just it's just we we we started maneuvering
society to a really weird space. I mean like it's
just really like I said, were men. You know, you're
not supposed to brag that you that's a flex when
you bragging that you know you take care of a woman.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
It's not a flex to say you take care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
Wait, it's a flex when you're saying you take care
of a woman.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah, you take care of your family. And that didn't
used to be a flex, But that's a flex now.
If you pay all the bills, that's a flex.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Oh for sure, y'all. I take care. I take care
of you.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
If a woman took care of a man, she is
considered a failure in society.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
You'd be liked.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Imagine you have to take care of that dude, like
you have to take care of him everything he do,
every dumb ass mistake he make. That's how I feel
every time you do some dumb shit. He wrecked his car,
you gotta fix it keep they cy on.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
When you go in and work, you gotta pay the bill.
That's how it is being a man.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
A woman is expecting you to take care of her,
no matter what silly mistakes she make.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
That's fright. Yeah, So sorry for y'all the.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I mean, it's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I mean, it's just the society we live in. I
just don't want people to forget.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Well, if they didn't know, they know now it's you know,
you're taking care of.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Physical things, you know, stuff like that, but we're taking
care of the house.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Look, I think a whole household.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Don't get me wrong, I think I don't think a
woman don't pull her own way, even if a man
is paying all the bills.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
It's not about that.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
But if you don't have a true appreciation for that,
then you forget the gratitude portion of it.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I mean, I do think taking care of a house
is a ton of work.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I think washing and and making sure the kids and
all that is a ton of work.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I don't think it's a lack of respect for that work.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
But obviously you know the the work that's tough because
you don't you know the work.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You don't want to do.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I bet you you could find a man who would actually,
you know, he wouldn't mind ironing your clothes for you
to get up and go make all the money, and
he just get to sit at home and go get
his hair cut to look nice for you when he
come home and cook dinner. Still a different job. You
still wouldn't even if you you know, if Couz lost
his job and you and he making all the food,
(43:31):
it might be cool for the first few months, you know,
I mean, you're like, damn, you know this ain't Then
eventually you're gonna look and you know, he left his
moon roof open, and now you gotta pay for his
interior and electronics get fixed. That shit gonna start to
come out. You're gonna be like, hold up.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Bro, have you ever watched I mean, did you ever
see mister mom?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I was just a second. Wasn't there a movie called
Decades Ago?
Speaker 3 (43:54):
As basically she wasn't feeling it after a while, was
like it was reverse.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
The man had to stay home the woman, and he
got laid he got furloughed, and the woman ended up
getting a job in advertising, so she started going to
work every day.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
She was a stay at home. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (44:11):
So he he was like fucking up shit, like fucked
up the washing machine, all kinds of stuff. It was
funny though, like he messed up like how to take
them to school, like he was all lost and stuff.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
No looten any So so I do think there is
a lesson that men need to know for women who
actually take care of the house, Like there definitely needs
to be a real gratitude because I ain't no pump
cooking and cleaning and shit and caring for children on
the consistent.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
But that's tough.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
But it got to be an appreciation. And that's the point.
It needs to be gratitude. It's not enough gratitude, you know,
Like imagine you making some food, nigga telling you like, yeah,
I could cook my own food.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That shit would make you feel like.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Oh yeah, well yeah, especially made.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
This food or you supposed to.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Cook the food, right, oh yeah no, And that becomes
your attitude.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Who So you gotta define it in yourself. That's the trick.
You have to define it in yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Take the ego out.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Women definitely don't need pride or ego in a in
a in a and while they're dating a man. You
need pride of ego if you're taking care of yourself.
I mean, you definitely need it when you're taking care
of yourself, but you don't need it if you have
a man taking care of you that that ain't gonna.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Work for you. But both people do need gratitude.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
I agree with that, Like that's I think there's men
who don't really have the right gratuitous attitude towards the
old lady for you know, carrying that, you know, turning
the house into a home. That's just to maintaining a
home and some shit maintaining a home and some ship.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
It's not no pump m h.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yes, I agree,
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